I feel very crippled with 1 dash only
#h1-discussion
limber ether
rustic vale
Just take greatest refle… oh wait 
dire tendon
I feel very crippled with 1 dash only
go for keys, roll hermes
key rolls still work i think
so go nuts looking for that greatest reflex
mint coral
go for keys, roll hermes
"mirrorless boonless"
mint coral
Boonless means no boons
dire tendon
i
may be stupid
ngl i forgot hermes was "boons" since they dont function as them XD
mb lads
backup plan: gilgamesh
silver mica
LMAO
silver mica
may be stupid
I felt that
dire tendon
WAIT HEAR ME OUT LADS
DASH NOVA
thats a dash
:)
are there any other hammers that grant mobility
mint coral
Rush kick?
limber ether
the solution is for me to stop being bad lmao
mint coral
Shield also has bull rush assuming you dont pick up charged shot
mint coral
Smth smth block is reliable
dire tendon
beo block :)
limber ether
but my hestia
cobalt ibex
Yay I did it em4 h6
GG but what does h6 stand for?
stone rune
heightened sixcurity
latent moon
true
high island
Hestia Lv.6.
swift inlet
Hard Labor 6
glass adder
It was heat 16
Beat it with spear too, now on hades with bow
Why does companion sometimes works on Theseus and sometimes not?
latent moon
Wdym it always works
stone rune
Idk sometimes it says i can't use it there
if you've used it up
it has so many charges
based on how much ambrosia u dump
cobalt ibex
Hestia Lv.6.
Oh my bad, I'm playing on Switch so no Hestia mod.
stone rune
Oh my bad, I'm playing on Switch so no Hestia mod.
the aspect
cobalt ibex
Oh. Why did I think of the mod first? I love aspect of Hestia, big damage!
latent moon
Idk sometimes it says i can't use it there
you should always be able to use a summon in the heroes fight
i've never heard of anyone not being able to use it there
stone rune
you should always be able to use a summon in the heroes fight
the thing it says when you try to summon when you're out makes it seem like you're not allowed to
latent moon
they said they had 5 uses tho
stone rune
could use 5 before heroes
glass adder
I didn't
vague mirage
Guys, anyone know a trick for Sea God's Spite? I've done Theseus about 5 times now with extreme measures and talked to Poiseidon and it doesn't pop the quest
stone rune
rng
rustic vale
Guys, anyone know a trick for Sea God's Spite? I've done Theseus about 5 times n...
Hades rng dialogue moment, you’ll get it eventually
cobalt ibex
I suck so much with Nemesis sword, died at heat 16. Can't believe I'm better with Excalibur.
stone rune
arthur is easier to be silly gaming with
silver mica
I suck so much with Nemesis sword, died at heat 16. Can't believe I'm better wit...
Why do you say that?
Acknowledging where the fault is coming from is the first step to fixing it
So what seems to be your issue with it?
cobalt ibex
I'm bad with sword, it's a double edged weapon no pun intended. I play too risky.
I just can't imagine that I can do better with Excalibur which is a million times slower than Nemesis. And I'm doing the double dash strike playstyle so it not even a lack of dps.
high island
Excalibur is one of the easiest weapon aspects to clear with at those heats.
Nemesis probably one of the hardest.
modern hawk
I suck so much with Nemesis sword, died at heat 16. Can't believe I'm better wit...
nemesis is my fav aspect in the game lmao
ive no hit with it up until ritght beofre lerny
native blade
Nce.
graceful chasm
im wondering how many tries did it take for you guys to beat the game
stone rune
current wr holder took 50
i took 26
some people take like 10
some people take like 100
latent moon
I took 23
candid igloo
good, felt weird, lacking some conclusion
white path
Eurydice upgraded my strong drink rarity and I kept my damage bonus, I thought I heard it reset
mint coral
what weapon
tho ME is prob the choice anyways
just sell passion and look for divine dash
stoic spoke
i cant already used her keepsake
stone rune
rip
stoic spoke
its a no heat run just to grind so its fine ig lol
latent moon
Do the funny dash strike dash upper in the same dash
dire tendon
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/732986703014395905/1082481823642300566/...
ARES AID WOOOOO
native blade
ARES AID WOOOOO
Huh.
dire tendon
what other call lets you live out your pale king fantasy smh
stone rune
best call 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
limber ether
im wondering how many tries did it take for you guys to beat the game
17
but I've played other roguelikes before
stone rune
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1082498486064386088/image.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1082498574564216942/image.png
does it only count multiple per player on the actual leaderboard
dull niche
fair basalt
do u think hades is best on switch?
void vigil
I never played it on switch but if I had to guess it’s probably best on pc, but switch is nice because you can play it anywhere if you’re not playing docked
latent moon
The only downside on switch from what I've heard is just loading times but they're not that long
void vigil
After the amount of runs I did on pc I think my loading times got a little long too lol
native blade
Lel.
void vigil
I can tell which mini boss I’m coming up on by the loading time
latent moon
Lmfao that's based
spring knoll
why would save file size affect mid-game loading times? Is it coded to reload the entire file after every room or something?
latent moon
no clue, but after a ton of attempts the game starts to load slower when entering rooms
stone rune
it's after a few thousand i've heard
latent moon
it's not really a big deal unless you want to do an rta (real time attack) speedrun
it might have an affect for igt tho? but no one's said anything about it
spring knoll
hmmm, I've only got a few hundred runs under my belt, but my entire save folder is only 36mb. That should take my PC about 9 milliseconds to load. I guess you'd have to have thousands of runs before it became noticeable.
spring knoll
40 here on hell mode
latent moon
hmmm, I've only got a few hundred runs under my belt, but my entire save folder ...
yeah for a normal casual player it's not a big deal to worry about
void vigil
I have around 700 runs and I’m sure the game loads some rooms noticeably slow enough for me to distinguish between asterius and butterfly ball lol. But it’s not horribly slow
latent moon
if you speedrun a lot or grind high heat, you tend to reset a lot for pace/boons/etc so a lot of runs end in tartarus
stone rune
it only starts to matter when you start resetting 😞
latent moon
yeah pretty much
spring knoll
I can see how fishing for good RNG would become a necessity when your objectives start becoming more and more insane
latent moon
speedrun 40 heat
spring knoll
now there's a solid speed-running game!
bitter tapir
U guys have any good ways to farm titan blood and diamonds after the first finished run
latent moon
yeah, do more runs lmao
you can get 2 per win, 3 if you trade out the ambrosia
ambrosia you dont exactly need until a bit later, so you can trade most of it away for titan blood if you want
lone sable
Bounties
latent moon
oh yeah i should've been more specific
when i said "more runs" and "per win" it's assuming you're doing bounties
empty swallow
Lookin at the current results without actual divine intervention Chirons gonna win the Tornament
latent moon
certified chiron moment
vague mirage
Noob question: do the cosmetics of the house influence the game in any meaningful way? Like a certain string of cosmetic choices unlock some dialogue or stuff like that? Like a code or something.
void vigil
some cosmetics will trigger dialogue, but nothing like a code
muted glen
Noob question: do the cosmetics of the house influence the game in any meaningfu...
Nope its purely astectic
vague mirage
All right, thanks
glass adder
So for me for hades em4 seems like the issue is most DPS?
The healing screwed me twice with sword
Also, the summons can be crazy, that thing that summons heads with lasers is disgusting 😂
lone sable
You can interrupt the healing by breaking the pots
lone sable
Also, the summons can be crazy, that thing that summons heads with lasers is dis...
It just summons minibosses
glass adder
Is it best to ignore them and kill him? Because they keep disappearing
lone sable
Is it best to ignore them and kill him? Because they keep disappearing
When they glow green it means they are about to heal him
If you break it it interrupts a tick of healing
Its best to just break all pots when they spawn if you can help it
glass adder
I meant the mini bosses
lone sable
They dont keep dissapearing
Maybe some minibosses have downtime like the dusa head or the sneak
glass adder
When I was trying to kill them they kept disappearing and respawning
lone sable
He spawns minibosses twice
First time he summons one, second time 2
Generally i like to kill the one that spawns alone and when he spawns 2 i just try to rush hades down
lone sable
Wait they do?
mint coral
Yeah
lone sable
Never noticed it
mint coral
You can also do a funny thing if the first summon is the dire crystal
mint coral
Hit it so it spawns as much crystals as possible then when dad tries to summon the next batch of miniboas he will summon nothing
lone sable
Oh entity limit?
mint coral
Which one is the dire crystal?
Tart miniboss that spawns more crystals when attacking it
Yeah lol
lone sable
Funny
mint coral
Good if you dont want sneaks/butterfly balls
lone sable
What would you say is the worst miniboss combo?
mint coral
Depends on the weapon
lone sable
Wait can you get double sneak?
lone sable
Double sneak sounds horrid
mint coral
Double B.ball too
high island
Ideally, the first summon he does is Doomstone.
lone sable
Yes they did mention the entity limit trick
high island
Imagine if... dad uses "Darkness!", you hit Doomstone to drop a shard, and then dad just despawns because there's too many enemies and he's not allowed to reappear and you win.
lone sable
He got overtaken by the darkness
native blade
high island
And then you go back to the House of Hades...
lone sable
Finally we got this cliche in hades
high island
And he's not there either.
weak pebble
He got overtaken by the darkness
Nyx kills him herself
mint coral
EA before Hermes my beloved
fair basalt
i wish i could send a picture
so u know when u give npcs a bunch of nectars
u cant give anymore nectars to them
and for some reason one day charon let me give him one of those cool nectars and then he gave me something in return
can i ask what that thing does?
native blade
can i ask what that thing does?
It increases the length of time an item bought from a well of charon lasts.
mint coral
and for some reason one day charon let me give him one of those cool nectars and...
If you mean you gave him ambrosia, then you probably maxed his bond, now charon's keepsake has a cool sticker next to it when you check the place where you swap keepsakes
It doesn't do anything btw
jaunty oxide
so wait when you can give someone ambrosia
i really love this game but it is so damn hard
mint coral
so wait when you can give someone ambrosia
Once you reach the lock in the codex you need to do a favor for them, most of them can be done by just playing
They also make sense with the characters (for example charon favor is spending money) but if needed, just check the wiki
jaunty oxide
Thank u very much <3
fair basalt
If you mean you gave him ambrosia, then you probably maxed his bond, now charon'...
oh
i see
glass adder
How good you need to be to beat heat 32?
limber ether
Just need to pick the right pact + boons
Once you do, mechanically it's not too hard
glass adder
Unsure
I still struggle em4 16 heat
Only won with sword on third try
32 is way harder
rustic vale
I still struggle em4 16 heat
Em4 is overkill for 16 heat
It usually only gets picked up around 50+
For first 32, you have to make sure your mechanical skills are up to scratch, but also that the builds you go for are good and that the heat pact isn’t unnecessarily hard
glass adder
Em4 is overkill for 16 heat
I want to learn the bosses
glass adder
Well i can beat em 3 easily
rustic vale
That’s why em4 is not turned on until like 50 heat and higher
A big chunk of the difficulty of 32 heat can come from just using the harder heat options when there are easier ones
glass adder
I think it's more fun with harder bosses too
rustic vale
All I’m saying is that how you structure your heat pact can really change how difficult your 32 heat run is
Of course mechanical skill and the build you use matter as well, but the pact itself is crucial
latent moon
A lot of people struggle at 32 heat mostly because of the pact not because they don't have the mechanical skill lol
glass adder
Sure
latent moon
A bad pact can make it unnecessarily difficult
stone rune
32 can be easy especially if you're using an aspect that does it well with a good pact
rustic vale
Something along the lines of this for 32 heat: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/1064308918932734102/IMG_2770.jpg
stone rune
lol
rustic vale
few things could’ve changed around
latent moon
Generally fo2 hl1 or hl5 CF2 fo0
stone rune
hl4 lc4 fo2
rustic vale
but still pretty easy 32 pact overall
latent moon
Most people should do the latter
stone rune
why is it em2
latent moon
Unless you already know fo2 then fo2 is good
rustic vale
why is it em2
I couldn’t tell you
latent moon
Oh wait lmao that's kinda cursed but based
stone rune
this is like
rustic vale
Maybe I just hate beyblading
stone rune
speedrun pact without mm
rustic vale
I wonder if this isn’t actually a great example now 💀
stone rune
hl5 lc4 cf2 em3 bp2 mm uc td3
rustic vale
Also it’s blurry, tf was I doing with my hands
stone rune
parchmentwork
rustic vale
3 things can be improved upon to make 32 heat easier:
Heat pact itself
Builds skill
Mechanical skill
They are all important though
glass adder
hl5 lc4 cf2 em3 bp2 mm uc td3
Nice, i don't understand any of those 😂
native blade
Hard Labour
glass adder
I downloaded a pic with good vs bad options tho
stone rune
convenience fee
hard labor, lasting consequences, convenience fee, extreme measures, benefits package, middle management, underworld customs, tight deadline
glass adder
I am playing with em 4, BP 1, mm and uc
rustic vale
Nice, i don't understand any of those 😂
Hard Labour 5, Lasting Consequences 4, Convience Fee2, Extreme Measures 3, Benefits Package 2, Middle Managment, Underworld Customs, Tight Deadline 3
glass adder
At 16h
glass adder
I want it tho
stone rune
55+ heat
rustic vale
you can keep it if you want it
It’s just making sure the rest of your pact is light especially since you have em4 on
glass adder
Bônus DMG seem pretty bad
rustic vale
Not really
stone rune
just dont get hit lol!!!!!
rustic vale
The hard ones are the ones that increase how long the enemies live, and then like heightened security, jury summons, routine inspection
avoid them
native blade
I’m memeing don’t mind me.
stone rune
The hard ones are the ones that increase how long the enemies live, and then lik...
approval process
also if you're not on like fists or eris dont take dc
rustic vale
also if you're not on like fists or eris dont take dc
Even on fists and eris
It’s time sink on literally every aspect
stone rune
it can """""""""""work""""""""""" on sword modded if you guarantee dedge
rustic vale
It’s giving acorn to every enemy
stone rune
but given both of those are zapping along at lower heats they sap the dc a bit easier
still sucks
hollow cedar
Hi
The devs are working on Hades II only right? No more patches/DLC in the last year at least
high island
Right.
little mountain
does rush kick double all aspect of demeter special shots?
silver mica
I was told it didn't
high island
It doesn't, no. It doesn't change the number of hits at all.
Standing Special is 2 hits at base. Dash-Special is 1 hit at base.
And that's the same with Rush-Kick.
Rush-Kick increases the base damage of the 2 hits from 30 each to 40 each.
Dash-Special is already 40 base damage without Rush Kick, so no change there.
calm zenith
Rush Kick is more a utility thing imo
You literally rush kick a further distance on dash special
It helps connect your specials on enemies
Charged shot special is better though
And there is something even better iirc
silver mica
Explosive Upper?
stone rune
breaching cross lmfoa
gray apex
Is it better to kill Theseus first on em3?
Rarely
The bull is what makes you lose the fight
stone rune
does he phase at same hp on normal or em3 i forgot
gray apex
Kill the bull
gray apex
does he phase at same hp on normal or em3 i forgot
He phases at like 35%
glass adder
He just stands there or you can chase him while damaging
gray apex
Yea
stone rune
i always forget which is which until im playing
gray apex
He's set to phase when he reaches a certain hp unlike other bosses which are set to phase at certain %
So when you use EM3 it increases hp
glass adder
I'll try going for Theseus first next times
glass adder
Wut
gray apex
Ig it could be but it still depends on a few other things, 40 heat speedrunning is inconsistent with AP1 CF1
stone rune
oh yeah
Middle Management and EM3 add on approximately 20 to 30 seconds to your expected times for the category
latent moon
just use beowulf, then it's always consistent
that's a lie you'll never get mirage shot
gray apex
Middle Management and EM3 add on approximately 20 to 30 seconds to your expected...
Yea MM is a pain
stone rune
it's consistent because you'll never leave tart :(
gray apex
get gudder
latent moon
so true
stone rune
idk i dont play beo
latent moon
i've given up beo speedrunning for something more cursed: rama speedrunning
gray apex
My EM3 pb is 5 seconds slower than my non EM
So Em3 is 5 seconds slower on average
quick maths
stone rune
real
latent moon
Got a point there
stone rune
i've given up beo speedrunning for something more cursed: rama speedrunning
ocaml pupil real
stone rune
the only aspect deserving of a sub20 is HESTIA 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪
gray apex
I keep wanting to try 40 heat speedruns then I remember the pain
stone rune
1 of every 52 messages i send has the word hestia in it
latent moon
And cf1
latent moon
Oh yeah
stone rune
is mm timeloss in gem room
latent moon
I mean it's not that big of a deal for some of them is it
stone rune
tart
gray apex
It's just styx
stone rune
the one with a million traps
latent moon
the one with a million traps
Yeah because the exit is further away
Dies at same rate unless you don't have cshot on beo yet basically
gray apex
🗿
I mean it's not that bad it's just irritating
Because going fast is already a pain in the ass then there's this
latent moon
oh yeah that's rough
high island
He's set to phase when he reaches a certain hp unlike other bosses which are set...
Armored Theseus has more HP, yeah. But the phase is just set to 0.5 for normal Theseus and 0.33 for Armored Theseus.
latent moon
i do love spaghetti
little mountain
I have rerolled dio/Aphro boons like 3 or 4 times now and it hasnt given me low tolerance
It did try to give me splitting headache, even tho i only have the artemis call
latent moon
it do be like that
also 4 times would mean you had like 10 dice lmfao
homie picked up 6 keys
unless you meant in total
little mountain
like in total
On multiple diffrent boons
Multiple Dio and Aphro boons after i got aphro on attack
latent moon
it do be like that
glass adder
Why does haelian have infinite lives in his 53h run? O.o
mint coral
Stubborn defiance moment
glass adder
Oh hmm
latent moon
Oh hmm
for high heat, SD is taken because lc4 makes it so you can't heal at all, so SD kinda becomes your way of healing throughout the run
it allows you to be a bit more aggressive and stay under the time limit in normal rooms, which are very likely to kill you because of js, cp, bp, and fo
stone rune
what chamber can you get patty in for sd boost to last to dad on 2sack
anywhere rightj
latent moon
yeah
latent moon
idk what's the earliest patty you can get, but you can reach dad on like 1 or 2 charges left
latent moon
c33 patty is best tho because c33 can suck
latent moon
well there's just more enemies
stone rune
there are??
latent moon
yeah
the later in the biome the more enemies there will be
or at least like a higher enemy value count
2 lout c12 prob doesn't exist unless they're armored or something idk lmao
stone rune
so thats why it's like "playing 32 33 34"
glass adder
for high heat, SD is taken because lc4 makes it so you can't heal at all, so SD ...
Yeah i got it
latent moon
obv you cant complain if you get it early because skip's a skip but it'll be better if it's later
stone rune
i always get skips early :(
literally went into c32 once at 406 and came out of ely at 55x
latent moon
sounds about right
on the other hand you might get really good late biome encounters
like 4 skullomats
stone rune
ricochet is actually really good for ely
latent moon
or 4 armored witches in ely
stone rune
like, better than clockets for large enemy counts
latent moon
hit more rockets with rd
stone rune
clocket rd rng 
latent moon
just get it
stone rune
real
high island
why is it specifically the later ely chambers
Chamber difficulty goes up with each chamber and then remains constant when you reach Styx.
Each enemy type has their own difficulty rating. And how many/what enemies can spawn depends on chamber difficulty.
latent moon
not mirrorless is it
stone rune
he'll get there
latent moon
fair
queen sapphire
Hey so what are some good YouTubers to watch if I want to learn more about the game and get better? Anyone have any recommendations
latent moon
spear is pretty hammer reliant and is hard to use
latent moon
Hey so what are some good YouTubers to watch if I want to learn more about the g...
haelian has some good guides, although he does a lot of meme runs nowadays lol
latent moon
speedrun.com is a good place to look for good builds, and watching what they do can give you an idea of how to play it as well
stone rune
particularly here https://www.speedrun.com/hades/guide/1i726#ch2_Weapon_Aspect_specific
latent moon
even tho they dont really have commentary it's still worth watching
also yeah there's guides there
latent moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCYfwFVlXYQ
i mean he's not wrong, chaos is good for heat because it's a shield lol
and point blank specials are the best way to use it
stone rune
SAFEST Weapon
stone rune
and point blank specials are the best way to use it
cshot:
latent moon
"probably" lmao
grave kayak
I got to hades with no problem with it but when I got to him it was doing crap damage I'm like what why
latent moon
lmao it do be like that
which spear
and build
because a good achilles build work be fine, maybe slow if you 1) dont have flurry jab and/or 2) playing it slow
grave kayak
Idk lol I was doing hangover damage with slow, and the triple stab with the quick charge spin idk lol frost dash, party fog projectile
Honestly I was ripping thru the rest of the game ....
I'm like wtf
latent moon
was this achilles?
also how many hangover poms
festive fog would probably be doing a decent chunk to dad, esp with achilles
high island
Also look for speedrunners and high heat players on Twitch that you can learn from. They're always happy to answer questions.
high island
Figure out what?
latent moon
figure out what builds are good? a lot of trial and error lol
"hey this looks like a good idea let's try it"
"dang this sucks never again"
high island
The best players have been in the community for a very long time and have hundreds and thousands of hours in the game. So the meta builds here and in the speedrun discord are at a way higher level than one player could figure out on their own.
You just start from anywhere at all anyway. Like if you're new, just try out different things and get a feel for what does what. Naturally we have plenty of guides that can give you some solutions, but play and explore at whatever pace you like.
latent moon
you could figure out some parts on your own, but older players have already taken what you found out to the next level
grave kayak
Ok ill just try to look up builds because 90 percent of what I pick is usually guessing
high island
Or if you find something that you think is cool and strong, try to get it again and see if you can recreate it or make it even better. And then you just experiment like that and make improvements over time.
stone rune
or you start Aphrodite and win every time
high island
My Newbie Build Guide is pinned in #h1-for-new-players if you just want a starting point. For something a bit more advanced, there's a great build guide pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat that goes over all of the meta builds + some decent off-meta builds without going too deep.
latent moon
when i started using beo i went through the duos list and thought "hey i wonder if curse of longing would work for 32 heat" lmao
i dont think i ever got CoL
turns out passion beo was a thing but it's better with snurst pstatus
high island
I don't think lingo like snurst or pstatus make any sense to newer players lol.
stone rune
snausage
latent moon
i do love snausage
fallen vigil
does hades still require wifi to play or can you play it offline?
rustic vale
offline
fallen vigil
👍
void vigil
I got hades on switch but I’m so bad at it 😭
I’m too used to a keyboard so I keep forgetting to dash
muted glen
It sucks with the controls on the side, i recommend using a pro controler
latent moon
@muted glen it's prob the same, but i'm just not great lol
i mean i can prob get a sub10 with hera no prob with a good bit of rng and decent aim
muted glen
Defiently
latent moon
but also iirc it was prob zagbow week on speedcord
muted glen
But i dont understand how autoaim misses alot
Like itl occasionaly stuff it up
But 99% of the time its accurate
latent moon
i force flurry shot with hera and i suck with that so it's not much better lol
and i'm pretty sure there isn't auto aim for flurry lol
i cant tell but i do miss more than i should
zag bow is just less frustrating if i do miss
but i like playing rama more so i'm gonna torture myself on this endeavor
latent moon
for rama?
muted glen
In general
muted glen
Thats fine
muted glen
I just want to see how ur aiming works compared to mine
latent moon
ah
prob look at the rama one then
beo relies on grouping more
but also rama shots are pretty thick so i can get away with worse direct aim lmao
latent moon
i dont have any hestia recordings and im' not gonna make one lmao
but like the auto aim works fine
it's just a me problem
stone rune
stone rune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otgt9xmjgxk
how in the world
it ALWAYS takes an aspho thumbnail
latent moon
idk lmao
stone rune
i guess that has decent contrast
latent moon
some of them are meg and chaos for mine
latent moon
a few than, some just aspho
stone rune
void vigil
I thought thumbnails had to do with the time of the video
latent moon
i also just checked in game and aim assist is on
stone rune
someone said it's the contrast
they said before modded it was always barge
in ye olden days
void vigil
That’s funny
latent moon
stone rune
what
stone rune
you pick?
muted glen
my aim assist is def on
It should just lock on to enemies and track them
latent moon
well i have aim at cursor on so it follows the cursor
stone rune
i have never picked a thumbnail
latent moon
it'll follow them for a short bit but then it'll snap off at a certain point
stone rune
It should just lock on to enemies and track them
real hestia hours
latent moon
for shots that dont have an indicator before it's released, i'm fairly certain it just follows the cursor
like rail special, rama special
stone rune
if it's locking on to something your cursor changes
latent moon
it does?
stone rune
yeah hold on
uh
it won't show cursor in screenshot
but like
go into skelly
hover your cursor over him
latent moon
i dont want to open the game again lmao
latent moon
oh wait yeah you're right
stone rune
is a 5 second video over 500 mb
latent moon
ocaml takes fiery presence on rama lmao
or at least he did in the 5:26 run idk if his opinion changed
stone rune
what the hell
what happened
i load up the game
do a few rotations on skelly
why am i so slow
i feel like im taking a whole second between shots
stone rune
im not very practiced
latent moon
mood
i keep getting like 2:3x tart leaves on rama
and then my aspho is like 4:2x and my ely is 7:4x lmao
my ely sucks
stone rune
did you see the 156 502
latent moon
the what
stone rune
someone got a 502 off a 156
latent moon
was it beo lmao
stone rune
ofc
latent moon
yeah makes sense
stone rune
1:56.22/3:00.88/4:01.78/4:36.78/5:02.50
latent moon
sounds about right
latent moon
honestly my biggest problem is ely, i need to get it down to 2 minutes lol
latent moon
meanwhile im getting 14x tart exits that turn into sub9
i mean it's hestia
so that's not surprising lol
hestia early game is supposed to be fast
latent moon
tart enemies are more spread out
and depending when you get cshot, it can be rough before that point
and i'm assuming for sub5 pace you want an early mirage, say like c8 or something idk
radiant vale
what are some good builds for beginners? i'm using nemesis artem lately
stone rune
what are some good builds for beginners? i'm using nemesis artem lately
SHACKLE
ONE OF US
latent moon
there's a newbie build guide pinned in #h1-for-new-players
stone rune
ONE OF US
latent moon
wdym "one of us" you dont even play nem
stone rune
shhhhhhhh
latent moon
shackle is a keepsake
stone rune
2nd best keepsake
latent moon
also if you're new i recommend staying in #h1-for-new-players
stone rune
behind only eternal rose
radiant vale
2nd best keepsake
why is the rose the best
radiant vale
from Aphrodite herself
do people really like to encounter naked gyaru gods in their first room
latent moon
lmfao
stone rune
do people really like to encounter naked gyaru gods in their first room
@high island we have a heretic in our midst
latent moon
i mean apart from the character art, aphrodite does have the largest % modifiers so she is a good god to use
latent moon
where is the shackle from
sisyphus
stone rune
who do i give banana milk to
it's pilk
latent moon
lmao rip
radiant vale
gives you infinity damage
what does it do
stone rune
gives you 100% damage boost to atk/special/cast when they have no boon on them
latent moon
50/75/100 depending on the level
radiant vale
gives you 100% damage boost to atk/special/cast when they have no boon on them
so i can do a no boon run?
latent moon
well you can have other boons
stone rune
ONE OF US
latent moon
it's just as long as there are no boons in the attack, special, or cast slot
stone rune
and it's a per slot basis
latent moon
if you have a boon in the attack slot, the special will still get the buff
stone rune
ok but what if i can do 273 damage in chamber 1 with nemesis and artem
i can do 300 with hestia and shackle
stone rune
or hestia and eternal rose
stone rune
well that's your priority number one
BEST ASPECT IN THE GAME 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪
radiant vale
well that's your priority number one
💀 but you're right
i have lvl 2 hest now
75 dmg
stone rune
usablish
latent moon
before that it's kinda sad
stone rune
i wouldn't till lvl4
latent moon
i mean 100 is still fine
latent moon
it's not that much worse
latent moon
it's like worse rama at that point
a dstrike on rama is 125 lol
stone rune
yeah
latent moon
without shared suffering
stone rune
but it's
radiant vale
maybe i'll just put some wine on chiron
radiant vale
last time it was fine
stone rune
chiron is good beginning aspect
radiant vale
200 with shared suffering
a point you do have
latent moon
200 with shared suffering
is that maxed level rama or what
stone rune
60%
latent moon
i mean either way it'll be more than hestia i guess
stone rune
125*1.6
latent moon
but also like
hestia is easier to use
and more beginner friendly
and 100 is fine
stone rune
the rotation in question:
latent moon
they're not doing anything crazy like speedrunning or whatever
latent moon
the rotation in question:
bruh not everyone cares about optimization
latent moon
most people just like click and reload with hestia
it's fine at 100 base damage
obv it's better to use at lvl 4 but it's whatever
radiant vale
is artem even good to you guys
stone rune
arty best special
radiant vale
guys do zeus boons suck
stone rune
no
latent moon
no
radiant vale
which is the worst boon
stone rune
the only god whose boons can really be said to suck would be ares if you're doing the atk/special without ME
that sucks
latent moon
put them on something that hits fast but low damage like fists or rail
latent moon
which is the worst boon
situational lmao
stone rune
weird way to spell rare crop
stone rune
real rng moment
glass adder
||So magaera is a dominatrix and zag is a sub||
muted glen
😏
glass adder
Maybe that's spoiler
glass adder
Maxing weapons is a pain, a have few fully upgraded and I'm far beyond the ending
glass adder
I'm already close to the secret ending
muted glen
Secret ending?
glass adder
I mean, epilogue?
muted glen
what does that entail?
glass adder
After you max all gods relationships
muted glen
depends
glass adder
I have Poseidon special
muted glen
individually, triple bomb is better
muted glen
if you get cluster bomb, rocket is better
muted glen
Yes
glass adder
That sounds busted af
muted glen
fire 15 rockets at once
but rocket and cluster has a higher dps
as you cant feasibly land all 15 rockets on a boss
glass adder
Really? 🤔
mint coral
Triple blocks cluster and viceversa
radiant vale
tips to beat the bull of minos and thee sius
glass adder
Wow never got the duo with so many chances
muted glen
unlucky
muted glen
nice
radiant vale
i killed the bull, only theseus left. i have 8 hp, and the lifesteal sword. i am so scared. this is the first time i've ever gotten this far, please gimme motivation so i can berry delight that man
weak pebble
Good luck
glass adder
What you pick for hestia? Seeking fire spread fire or flurry fire?
radiant vale
What you pick for hestia? Seeking fire spread fire or flurry fire?
na i did not use hestia
lvl 2 hestia aint worth it man
only 75 damage
radiant vale
eh, oh
radiant vale
I just leveled it to max
pick wahtever that gives you more damage on the sniper shot
glass adder
Not sure how the spread fire works tho
muted glen
im not sure either
glass adder
Normally 40 is more dmg right?
radiant vale
Normally 40 is more dmg right?
that sets the normal bullets to 40
that wont do crap to the actual sniper bullets
it's not +40, it sets to 40
muted glen
nah probably not
glass adder
Seeking fire is probably best then
radiant vale
Thought it would add up
i would not risk setting sniper damage to 40 though
radiant vale
Seeking fire is probably best then
ye the +10% damage is pretty crisp
glass adder
Already have Artemis attack too
Special probably doesn't matter much with hestia right? 🤔
muted glen
nah not really
glass adder
Oh I'll try to get Athena duo for more crits
Or maybe dio
Not sure how often deflect would trigger
Dio seems more reliable
rustic vale
What you pick for hestia? Seeking fire spread fire or flurry fire?
Those are all pretty bad ngl, probably seeking ig
rustic vale
Special probably doesn't matter much with hestia right? 🤔
It does
rustic vale
Not sure how often deflect would trigger
Just go athena special anyways for the +% damage
rustic vale
I wouldn’t call anything broken but
It really depends on the aspect you want to use for what’ll be good
So, which aspect are you using?
radiant vale
So, which aspect are you using?
nemesis and artemis boons
rustic vale
Also there is a website pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat that has a few good builds for each aspect
rustic vale
nemesis and artemis boons
Nem with crit really goes
Arte strike -> aphrodite special or dash -> heart rend -> tons of attack and dash strike boons from chaos, look for double edge hammer
Or heart break strike, hunter dash, more attack and dash strike boons from chaos, look for double edge
radiant vale
Nem with crit really goes
Arte strike -> aphrodite special or dash -> heart ren...
i never got heart rend any runs recently
bad luck or skill issue?
muted glen
skill issue i think
rustic vale
i never got heart rend any runs recently
Bad luck
Also need to make sure you have the right boons to open up the duos
Also for either build, the most useful artemis support boon you could pick up would be hunters mark and then after that artemis boons don’t really matter especially
radiant vale
skill issue i think
thanks
radiant vale
Bad luck
oh ok
also
can i use diony instead of aphro
he gives crit chance instead of crit rate
radiant vale
it wouldn’t be especially great tbh
what about glove builds
do ares stack work well /w it or sum
rustic vale
you either build merciful end
Ares strike, athena special -> merciful end duo -> divine dash
Or smair
Zeus strike -> aphro special -> zeus or dionysus call -> smouldering air
Or hangover
Dionysus strike -> aphrodite special -> low tolerance -> all the poms you find go onto dio strike
radiant vale
you either build merciful end
Ares strike, athena special -> merciful end duo ->...
will do
curse of agony fun
rustic vale
also, from hermes, generally you either want to take greatest reflex, or hyper sprint -> rush delivery
Just a general thing for any given aspect
radiant vale
also, from hermes, generally you either want to take greatest reflex, or hyper s...
ok lol
radiant vale
Just a general thing for any given aspect
do you like cows
rustic vale
About as much as the next guy
radiant vale
this game is balanced lol
rustic vale
I wouldn’t say that
There are certainly aspects and mirror upgrades that are just purely better then others
rustic vale
But each god has their own niche
rustic vale
You might as well for the damage
radiant vale
+149% is insane
rustic vale
Curse of longing isn’t really a good duo but aphrodite special is huge +%
radiant vale
Curse of longing isn’t really a good duo but aphrodite special is huge +%
should i let magaera cook
rustic vale
Maybe you’ll be able to exchange it for heroic athena special
rustic vale
should i let magaera cook
rustic vale
Gift bouldy
radiant vale
how
rustic vale
oh wait
radiant vale
i can only talk to phus
radiant vale
talk to sisphus, get obols unless you need hp or darkness
obol then
muted glen
Gift bouldy
Bruhh
rustic vale
Heart of Stone is cracked
radiant vale
Heart of Stone is cracked
i mean
the stone itself is kinda cracked
there's cracks everywhere
rustic vale
Bouldy boon though
Randomly 1-10% boost to attack damage or special damage or cast damage or movespeed or damage reduction or obol gain or 2% ambiguity bonus
muted glen
yeah what does ambiguity do
rustic vale
Nothing
rustic vale
Movespeed is the best
muted glen
definetly
rustic vale
Movespeed is rush delivery damage, what can I say
muted glen
yeah ive never been able to set that up well tho
rustic vale
All you really need is hyper sprint -> rush delivery
radiant vale
how do i tie bosses up so they dont reappear 😠
rustic vale
You don’t
I swear I’m gonna be stuck trying to get a funny heroic swift strike + flurry slash + piercing wave meme run forever
muted glen
how do i tie bosses up so they dont reappear 😠
lmao i feel that
radiant vale
lmao i feel that
funny
radiant vale
i keep dying to the god damn bull
radiant vale
what attempt are you on?
only 43
reached ely like 5 times in a row
then died to bull
over and over and over
muted glen
ok pretty good
radiant vale
that thing's tanky as hell
rustic vale
*hades
radiant vale
and theseus has a goddamn shield
muted glen
i recommend watching some guides
radiant vale
*hades
ok but hades hp bar goes down fast
so it feels good
minos bull just feels tedious
rustic vale
No no you said hell so I said Hades
glass adder
Just deal 999 DMG with hestia
radiant vale
Just deal 999 DMG with hestia
can't. 75 dmg hestia round wont do crap
i can't upgrade it
muted glen
minos bull just feels tedious
you just need a higher damage build
glass adder
Dealt*
radiant vale
not enough titan inner bodily liquids
glass adder
😂
radiant vale
you just need a higher damage build
aww man
rustic vale
Learning how to build weapons is part of the process
muted glen
do you have hera bow?
radiant vale
do you have hera bow?
i can try trading for blood and get that
glass adder
impossible wth
Yes i am, and 700 too
muted glen
i can try trading for blood and get that
yeah good idea
even at level 1 its very good
radiant vale
yeah good idea
bing chilling
glass adder
How does delta chamber work with hestia?
radiant vale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jMBdPF86nQ&t=359s
oh so it's a last stage
muted glen
the same
radiant vale
nvm i cant get it
radiant vale
omg wth
muted glen
what
radiant vale
fists
radiant vale
me when i get divine dash:
glass adder
Yeah I'm doing 1210 sometimes
muted glen
its great
radiant vale
bro that shield bonus is so good
bone hydra's snek spawn got 3x easier
(not like it was hard in the first place, but still)
easiest hydra i've ever fought lol
back to the elysium i go
muted glen
you got it this time
cobalt ibex
Is support fire good with spear? I mean, it's flashy and it's a good choice with fast weapon but spear is kind of in between. I prefer picking hunter's mark or pressure points over support fire, but maybe there are subtleties in the damage formula.
muted glen
if you can take hm or pp but support fire wont do you any harm
radiant vale
do you guys like cows
muted glen
nah archers are the easy ones
radiant vale
nah archers are the easy ones
ok but if there are like 8 of them
it gets really annoying
muted glen
agreed
void flicker
I hate the shield guys in elysium