im so rusty ong
#h1-discussion
wicked swan
after not playing hades for over a month i screwed up an incredibly good hera run
at the final boss as well
woeful trout
How do you post images
brisk trail
hmmm guys would using a autoclicker be usefull for hades?
bronze oracle
hmmm guys would using a autoclicker be usefull for hades?
Probably not
brisk trail
Probably not
Okey
Ima test in in a minute anyway to see if it works (does keep one hand free)
solar vault
you can't empty dash so dodging will be more of a pain
probably movement in general if there's no enemy right next to you
gray apex
What would you use it for anyway
There is nothing that requires clicking something mindlessly or excessively that you can't do normally
It also needs coordination and rhythm and would probably be tedious to set up
solar vault
I get having so many buttons on the keyboard that it's a bit hard to manage with one hand but if it's that much of a problem play with controller instead
high island
'Tis rude to quote a whole work like that without giving credit. 
No, the duo/legendary chance is just hardcoded 10% per roll for high rarity boons (such as miniboss rewards) and 12% for per roll for the regular ones (that you find at regular price and from normal encounters).
half loom
i started this game yesterday and it seems 2 ez
i just got past the bone snake and i havent died once
brisk trail
i just got past the bone snake and i havent died once
Congrats now prepare for a double battle 
runic agate
i started this game yesterday and it seems 2 ez
As with dead cells, the first couple wins are kinda the tutorial
rustic vale
Yeah all the way to 20 heat is the tutorial tbh
wicked swan
i just got past the bone snake and i havent died once
bone snake and fury sisters are easy
(alecto can be pretty tricky at times though)
wait till he gets to the end of elysium
pastel monolith
quick question:
does doublestrike affect the lighting bolt from sea storm?
i always thought it did but someone told me it doesn't and its difficult to tell, i figured someone here would know for sure
woeful trout
I don’t see why it wouldn’t
half loom
Yeah all the way to 20 heat is the tutorial tbh
whats 20 heat?
i just got past the minotaur
stone rune
probably #h1-for-new-players
rustic vale
whats 20 heat?
You should stick to #h1-for-new-players for a while then
rustic vale
is getting two duo boons at the same time rare?
Not really
maiden aspen
i cant get past zags voice it makes me cringe every time he opens his mouth
opal wharf
i cant get past zags voice it makes me cringe every time he opens his mouth
hades 2 is the perfect fix for this issue
tho ngl im getting kinda bored of the game
heat is cool and all but like
having 4 fountains and 3 dd just makes the game that less interesting
i dont feel rewarded whenever i dont need the fountain
well tbh i dont rlly feel rewarded when i escape either
now that i did everything on the surface dying to hades or dying right after rlly feel similar
and most bad runs make it to hades anyway
gray apex
Make the game harder or speedrun
stray shard
Not really
U'r right just happened again lol
opal wharf
or the weapons to unlock
stray shard
or the weapons to unlock
Make a new save file
opal wharf
hmm
tempting
but also
i'd have to go through the same dialogue again
but it a good idea
stone rune
having 4 fountains and 3 dd just makes the game that less interesting
then do 40 heat lol
stray shard
Or u could try another rogue like such as enter the gungeon or binding of Isaac
opal wharf
then do 40 heat lol
is that everything maxed out ?
stray shard
Story isn't as good but they're still good games
opal wharf
whats the max i wonder
stray shard
Same
stone rune
that's why you find the game less interesting
opal wharf
you're right
gray apex
yea
opal wharf
im gonna try like 5 more heat to see how that feels
gray apex
It'll probably feel the same
stone rune
heat doesn't really make a difference till like 32 or something unless you take bad pacts
maybe 25
stray shard
My max heat is like 6 I think
Tho
I only have like 3 wins
When Hades two comes out
If it doesn't have good riddance in it
I'm gonna cry
latent moon
having 4 fountains and 3 dd just makes the game that less interesting
High heat makes fountains useless and you won't use death defiance lol
stone rune
you press q twice and explode
rotund galleon
aight
stone rune
but just
put zeus on special
get all of zeus supporting boons
deal infinite damage
rotund galleon
so Zeus on Zeus with more Zeus
stone rune
yep
rotund galleon
I find Achielles spear clunky so I'd like to get funky
time to go to FUNKY TOOOOOWN
rotund galleon
F
stone rune
have you tried listening to hypnos's advice
stray shard
I have not
stone rune
give it a go
slender mist
HAHA
stray shard
Thanks for telling me
rotund galleon
Meanwhile Hypnos' advice is like "Have you tried not eating cheese ?"
stray shard
That was my impersonation of Zagreus
stray shard
I wanna put a big funny bullet in his head
slender mist
WOW
rotund galleon
el lmao
stone rune
ok then
rotund galleon
Hypnos is adorable
stray shard
Eurydice is best character
stone rune
the aphrodite in question:
slender mist
He just doesn't understand subtlety, everything he says come from a genuine place
Also he looks like he'd give good hugs
stone rune
too bony
slender mist
the blanket though
rotund galleon
best hugger is probably Achilles
slender mist
can't argue with that
stray shard
When can i give ambrosia to people?
Cuz i have 4 bottles
And no one to share it with
stone rune
forge a bond
rotund galleon
remember to always forge a bond with Chaos firss
rustic falcon
how does the keep sake pierced butterfly work in the styx? is it like i can get a damage boost in each room for styx if i dont take damage or do i need to do an entire room and the final reward room without taking damage for the damage buff
pastel monolith
remember to always forge a bond with Chaos firss
why chaos first? its been so long since ive had to worry about any of that stuff ive completely forgotten everything
pastel monolith
how does the keep sake pierced butterfly work in the styx? is it like i can get ...
only the final room counts in each tunnel, and sack tunnel doesnt count at all..
one way to notice, is theres a little timer thingy on the left of ur screen around the keepsake icon when its an encounter that works for the butterfly, same goes for the hermes feather
rustic falcon
only the final room counts in each tunnel, and sack tunnel doesnt count at all....
oh thats a scam
well sack room has no enemies so fair
pastel monolith
wait ignore my last edit. i was just thinking of hermes feather only lol
but im pretty sure theres some kinda indicator for the butterfly too
rustic falcon
but im pretty sure theres some kinda indicator for the butterfly too
probably a 1 to indicate if the room can increase damage but not sure
sour fog
but im pretty sure theres some kinda indicator for the butterfly too
Yes there is a glowing border on the keepsake until you take damage
rustic falcon
but im pretty sure theres some kinda indicator for the butterfly too
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/445347078827147267/1075142501154947183/image.png
oh it has a glowing border if the room is compatible
sour fog
and yeah if the small rooms in styx counted it would be busted AF
pastel monolith
i wish u didn't lose the benefit for butterfly and feather and the dog collar when u take them off
id probably use them a lot more often
rustic falcon
same
rotund galleon
AAAA I SKIPPED A FISH
pastel monolith
i dont think it would be too OP or busted or whatever u wana call it
rip
which area was the fish in?
rustic falcon
if its chaos area oooof
pastel monolith
the best is chaos fish
ya lol
darknessssa
but also the surface fish on a newer file
u get ambrosia and diamonds
rustic falcon
oh you can fish on surface
pastel monolith
maybe even titan blood?
rustic falcon
i did not know
pastel monolith
its rare but it happens
sour fog
yeah titan blood too
rustic falcon
is chaos more rare or surface
rustic falcon
dam but surface gives better rewards
pastel monolith
well u can trade ambrosia for titan blood anyway
sour fog
at least later when you make it to surface pretty much every time
rustic falcon
blocking the final boss' lazers with the shield is fun
bronze oracle
blocking the final boss' lazers with the shield is fun
Yeah
That combined with slicing shot got me my win with the shield
rustic falcon
op
i had aspect of zeus with smoldering air duo with posidon aid
i just plot down the special with zeus on special + jolted and then posidon aid for instant room clear or well atleast in styx
was so fun
empty swallow
https://strawpoll.com/polls/eNg6992xenA
Huge surprise Hera is eliminated early by Rama
Hera 45.75% (70 votes)
Rama 54.25% (83 votes)
I seriously expected Hera to be in endgame
latent moon
Zag bow vs Chiron bow I wonder what reddit will pick
empty swallow
Fair
Honestly I think the only reason Rama won is because how little amount of people voted on the last poll
latent moon
Rama is better for overall compared to hera
empty swallow
Zag bow vs Chiron bow I wonder what reddit will pick
I mean the discord should act as a fair counterbalance cause not many people pay attention to it on reddit I'm pretry sure
stone rune
I think there's more people active on reddit than here lol
but given the nature of discord this will probably be quickly buried
latent moon
Yep
stone rune
so let's hope we get the zag votes in quick
latent moon
Hera is better for speedrunning, but rama is still good at speedrunning
Hera falls off at heat but rama is relatively fine
stone rune
ri3 moment
latent moon
I mean it just can't handle single dash lol
stone rune
I mean it just can't handle single dash lol
the ri3 in question:
stone rune
oh
thoguht you meant hera
someone just did the 40 ri4 boonless with rama
except for the dq
stone rune
wdym em4 free
latent moon
You do it boonless then
stone rune
do that in my sleep with 0 dash
unbound my attack key too
did it with rama special only
white path
Me with 3hp left after bone hydra: Woah, that was close! I used my stubborn defiance, so I almost died!
Also me, literally 2 seconds later: lemme take a quick lava bath so my stubborn defiance can get me back to 30% hp
dawn halo
anyone else listen to their gym playlist while playing?
woeful trout
20 is the max heat for rewards right
limber ether
Wait what?
limber ether
Doesn't that mean it's not the max?
stone rune
huh
limber ether
Like if you keep getting bounties past 20 heat then isn't 20 heat not the maximum for rewards?
Or are rewards different from bounties?
stone rune
no
so
like
if you've done 12 bounties
you still have 8 bounties left
you have to do a run at or above 13 heat
but if you do like
a 40 heat run then
it'll still give you a bounty
and now you're at 13
and need to do one at 14 or more
so there's 20 bounties
but you don't need to necessarily keep incrementing by 1
you can do 20 32 heats
if you want
limber ether
Ah right, misunderstood your wording
white path
Blown kiss requires crush shot cast
what if I sell crush shot but keep blown kiss?
What if I then get a different cast boon?
lol
I just checked
My cast is successfully dealing +75% damage to undamaged foes, thanks to blown kiss.
Neither regular nor athena's casts seem to get the range increase though
gray apex
Well it’s cast specific
heady rampart
athena has a boon that boosts starting god gauge during encounters
maybe that works during trials
or just farm on Elysium ghosts
latent moon
what's the easiest way to get bad call
is that the one to use a full call against the same god
latent moon
proud bearing def helps a lot, but yeah farming ely enemies help a lot
using an aspect that hits frequently would help
stone rune
probably zagfists
latent moon
so chiron, zeus, rail
stone rune
oh
latent moon
non ME fists would work
stone rune
what do you do on eris other than lightning strike
latent moon
if you want, you can take a large chunk of damage to help boost the meter lol
latent moon
what do you do on eris other than lightning strike
dio
stone rune
accidentally started 55 heat run
latent moon
oh
any % special, tidal dash
that's about it lol
jolted
splitting
smair if you want
stone rune
do you not start splash
latent moon
you can iirc
it'll work but at that point you're banking on lightning strike showing up later
stone rune
zeus dash?
latent moon
do you not plan on using your attack
why are you mentioning zeus dash when you said tdash start
i'm confused lmao
latent moon
also speedcord doesn't mention anything about splash start
latent moon
it was just a question
well why zeus dash
latent moon
well i mean if it shows up and none of the other options are good then sure
but it's not preferred
stone rune
im so used to never taking chaos i just didnt
latent moon
rip
also hard to believe that none of the other zeus options are good
unless it's like
between dash, cast, and special
latent moon
fair enough
latent moon
you're only in tart aren't you
latent moon
yeah you're not likely to get the achievement there
elysium is more likely
even if you did have the call, you can't farm enemies
the only reliable way would be to just take damage
stone rune
dio wont give me his call
latent moon
well you should've gotten it tbh
latent moon
lmao
stone rune
got splitting bolt
let us hope for trial
with zeus
just realised i've kept on zeus keepsake the whole time
mental rain
What does mean "tho" slang?
stone rune
though
mental rain
thx
latent moon
are you in ely yet
latent moon
oh lmao
stone rune
do i have to pikc the other god
latent moon
you need to piss off the god who's call you have
stone rune
ok
latent moon
so if zeus is in the trial and you have zeus call, take the other one
latent moon
based
stone rune
im backing up this save
latent moon
you could've taken shackle to dad fight for it lmao
stone rune
i hadn't even noticed
but i was offered a special in styx
had ricochet and delta though
latent moon
well if the other options weren't useful you might as well lol
latent moon
same idea tho yeah i would've just taken it if the other options weren't that great
brisk trail
I just realized why I couldn’t get the charged volley hammer to appear
U can’t get it with the aspect of Chiron
brisk trail
But you can get concentrated volley with it
Then why can’t I get it I have done 10 runs with 12 hammers and no charged volley
lone sable
Concentrated volley != charged volley
solar vault
concentrated is the one where arrows hitting same target do increments more
lone sable
Relentless volley+concentrated volley goes kinda hard
solar vault
(secret about me: I've only ever used chiron for one run)
brisk trail
(secret about me: I've only ever used chiron for one run)
I always use it on my bow runs (also the only aspect I have unlocked)
brisk trail
guys who is the best npc dusa or charon
lone sable
I can relate to both
I also would rather just run/fly away from a conversation like dusa does but i would also just talk in groans if i could
brisk trail
I also would rather just run/fly away from a conversation like dusa does but i w...
dam thats relateble to me too
bronze oracle
guys who is the best npc dusa or charon<:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Charon is based
Only groans, and no one asks questions
brisk trail
Guys I just fulfilled a thing and a bunch of hearts with locks popped open when I talked to dusa can u give her the ambrosia now?
empty swallow
Ye probably
https://strawpoll.com/polls/eNg6992xenA/results
Sending this again to make sure as many people vote as possible to make sure reddit has a counterbalance
brisk trail
https://strawpoll.com/polls/eNg6992xenA/results
Sending this again to make sure ...
i voted
high island
Guys I just fulfilled a thing and a bunch of hearts with locks popped open when ...
Yes.
brisk trail
Hmmm I wonder how would dusa have looked when she still had her body
rustic vale
https://strawpoll.com/polls/eNg6992xenA/results
Sending this again to make sure ...
It’s not going to counterbalance reddit tbh
brisk trail
Dusa legendary keepsake is mine now
lost river
If you play on PC, do you play with mouse and keyboard or with controller? I have both and I am playing with controller.
raw herald
I play on pc and use controller, although that might be because I started on switch
limber ether
I play kbm
rich horizon
i use an Xbox 360 controller that's literally older than me but that's because I was raised on Xbox games and can't do kbm for the life of me
brisk trail
If you play on PC, do you play with mouse and keyboard or with controller? I hav...
Keyboard but I can get my old usb controller if I want but I don’t think it would help
cyan crown
kbm for me as well
young forum
Recently bought the game on Switch (I was between re-activating PS Plus and getting Extra or Hades on Switch) and just got my 10th Hades kill, it was... unexpected 
Great game so far. When Hades 2 comes out it will only be on PC at the start, right?
void vigil
early access will be only on pc, yes
brisk trail
early access will be only on pc, yes
Good thing I have nothing else to play it on
latent moon
If you play on PC, do you play with mouse and keyboard or with controller? I hav...
I use kbm because I don't have a controller lol
Kbm is pretty solid tho
slender mist
I use kbm because that's what I'm used to using
solid mantle
Kbm is pretty solid tho
it kinda feels weird when playing hera tho with the right clicks and stuff
bright warren
This sounds dumb but is there a way I can give Aphrodite clothes
fleet barn
This sounds dumb but is there a way I can give Aphrodite clothes
Unfortunately not
latent moon
it kinda feels weird when playing hera tho with the right clicks and stuff
Right click is load cast isn't it
solid mantle
ye
latent moon
Isn't that more natural if anything
solid mantle
idk it could just be my mouse shape
solid mantle
with how fast paced the game is, its kinda clunky at times
latent moon
Might just be you then lol
Because I can't think of a better button to load casts for kbm
Unless you have like a side button
solid mantle
ye that would be better ig
dawn halo
Ima have to figure out how to connect my ps4 controller to my pc so I can play hades 2
When it comes out ofc
stone rune
raw herald
latent moon
Chiron moment
lapis harbor
My gf, who has never video gamed before, has taken up Hades and is loving it!
What’s the fastest way to get a companion?
I remember spending a ton of effort on Sisyphus, but that’s probably too much nectar..
stone rune
you really want meg
so just
give meg a bunch of nectar
get her to locked heart
and then do a bunch of runs
each time you see meg in the game you see meg at home
and you get new dialogue if you have some queued
rustic vale
I remember spending a ton of effort on Sisyphus, but that’s probably too much ne...
All of them require a ton of nectar
rustic vale
true
rustic vale
I’ve got like
lapis harbor
Wait, 6 to unlock?
lapis harbor
Sisyphus requires 16. 5 nyx, 5 meg as well
rustic vale
I’ve got like
lapis harbor
The others are all 6?
rustic vale
70?
rustic vale
The others are all 6?
It just requires completing favour and gifting after that last I checked
stone rune
someone just told me zagfists have the "best build potential in the game"
rustic vale
They are wrong
stone rune
plume meme
rustic vale
objectively wrong opinion
silver mica
About to fight EM4 redacted
latent moon
"strongest build in the game"
Well it is ME lmao
Although if we're going for RD with ME then zag sword is best lol
Dodge technically doesn't do anything for you dps wise except keep up high confidence
latent moon
Tell them that if you want jazz lol
stone rune
the ignited ichor in question:
silver mica
HE WRECKED ME
latent moon
It do be like that
silver mica
He comboed me 😭😭😭
I guess EM hades is pretty interesting
I did pretty good though I'd like to think
Hm
Arthur or Nemesis
What should I use
Eh I'll go Arthur
stone rune
extreme measures
latent moon
Pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies
stone rune
there's a guide in #h1-high-heat-strategies
timber pivot
I personally use the shield coz.. idk its my favourite
stone rune
man
zagspear
so bad
why
although
sweet nectar is a nice side effect of tdash hangover builds
really it opens up both of those weird duos
cause you also can get exclusive access
plain jackal
can you sea storm bosses
I don't know about sea storm, but the affect that causes them to bleed (rend?) Works on bosses
stone rune
? doom?
plain jackal
No, the poseiden rend after knockback
stone rune
oh
plain jackal
Razer shoals?
plain jackal
That works
rustic vale
since they don't get knockt
They do get knocked
They just have a massive reduction on the amount they’re pushed
the only thing that doesn’t get pushed is the thwomp
stone rune
oh
stone rune
the only thing that doesn’t get pushed is the thwomp
aspho annoying thing shoot arrow?
rustic vale
The ones that drop from the sky
rustic vale
I actually don’t remember whether or not the snakes get knockback
plain jackal
The butterfly orb things don't get knocked back right?
rustic vale
Pretty sure they do
stone rune
they should
rustic vale
Let me find the gif of someone killing hades with knockback slam damage
mint coral
the only thing that doesn’t get pushed is the thwomp
i only noticed this when i didnt see the sea storm procs on them lol
proud nexus
My dad got like a level 13 phalanx shot with the Hermes spam-cast boon and his 3 bloodstones and just shredded hades
empty swallow
https://strawpoll.com/polls/GPgV66qB3ga/results
Aspect of Zagreus (again again) 22.41% (52 votes)
Aspect of Chiron 77.59% (180 votes)
stone rune
jesus christ
latent moon
lmfao
brisk trail
what wep should I use if I just want to destroy everything
stone rune
eris
latent moon
beowulf
stone rune
beo more complicated
latent moon
i mean yeah but also they never specified how easy they wanted it to be
latent moon
hidden shield
mint coral
Ice wine on trippy flare 
dawn halo
Ice wine on trippy flare <:ron:459075377906712586>
fuh real
latent moon
there's no need to beat em up if the trippy flare kills them
dawn halo
i like pressing square
latent moon
it's just trippy flare -> ded
mint coral
Il rather fish for mirage lol
latent moon
same lol
dawn halo
why not both 😄
latent moon
because delay stinky
dawn halo
but beeg number
mint coral
Cuz 4 gods builds arent fun to plan
I dont want trippy to become even less inconsistent lol
mint coral
but beeg number
Replace ice wine with a common shot boon from chaos and is the same
latent moon
except you'd rather have a grasp
dawn halo
trippy shot isnt as fun to me
mint coral
What does trippy shot have to do with this
Shot from chaos is cast dmg
Tho ironically i like ice wine on trippy shot
rustic vale
you get in, trippy flare, beat em up, they're dead
Trippy flare should kill by itself without ice wine
woven sapphire
im new to the game, in the 4th world I think, and am wondering what this alter that says "return" does
if anyone knows that would be useful
latent moon
it sends you back to the first room you were in, with the charon shop
and all the other tunnel entrances
woven sapphire
oh i see
latent moon
also you should stick to #h1-for-new-players to avoid spoilers
woven sapphire
ok
empty swallow
latent moon
really putting 2 top aspects next to each other
stone rune
wow
well yeah
that's literally this whole bracket
they put the 2 good aspects of a weapon together
beo and zeus
idk why
at least they put dem with gilga
i think
both of them look the same
stone rune
zag was against chiron
latent moon
oh nvm
stone rune
dem gilga
latent moon
where's the bracket?
latent moon
that's zag vs gilga
latent moon
oh bruh hades spear beat zag spear lmao
stone rune
unaspected vs unaspected
latent moon
you make chiron sound so much worse than it really is lmao
stone rune
i hate it
latent moon
it's still pretty good
stone rune
i have grown to have to hate it
latent moon
like there aren't too many aspects that are egregiously bad
stone rune
i'm filled with vitriol from reading reddit
latent moon
the only one that i would say is egregiously bad is gilga lol
hades spear is eh, talos is eh, chaos is a shield so it gets a pass lol
stone rune
the unaspected spears in question:
empty swallow
Its totallt auto generated the matchuos just got lucky I guess
latent moon
it's not gonna be anything flashy lol
latent moon
shield, rail, and bow
stone rune
yeah
latent moon
but they're not flashy
stone rune
and i mean
stone rune
fists zag is 2nd best right
latent moon
wdym by 2nd best
stone rune
of fists
latent moon
oh yeah
latent moon
all the fists besides gilga are similar anyways
stone rune
but its upgrade is actually useful
i tried a zagspear today
i did low tolerance with it
latent moon
i mean that's fine
stone rune
and jesus christ the special is so annoying
latent moon
that's why you build exploding launcher + cskewer on it lol
latent moon
tbh exploding could be argued for preferred hammer on zag spear
special -> 2 dstrike -> repeat
with flurry you just 2 dstrike into standing and repeat lol
stone rune
i got like every supporting boon imaginable
sweet nectar and tdash
pommed the attack to like 16
and it was still clunky and annoying
latent moon
i mean it's spear
stone rune
i have no idea how i used to like it
my 2nd clear was with achilles and i didn't ever special
rustic vale
i got flurry jab and cskewer
Special is only good if you find exploding launcher
stone rune
i had done low tolerance with tdash so applied weak with special
and wanted cskewer so i could tap it
rustic vale
Cskewer so you could tap what
stone rune
the special button
rustic vale
Cskewer is the wrong hammer if you jusr want to tap the special
stone rune
oh well
umbral shoal
whats a good strategy for dealing with the miniboss satyr independent of boons
umbral shoal
i mean if you have a way of dealing damage out of LoS maybe
problem is you still have to pop out most of the time and take the entire volley in the process
latent moon
meg and have a good build that can kill it
the strategy is gonna be different for each build tbh
like with a typical ME build on melee, you'll be fine
the better castpects will just delete it
others can use tidal dash + breaking wave
or just having a lot of general dps
"independent of boons" kinda makes it difficult considering it's all pretty different for each aspect
the universal solution is like "tidal dash + breaking wave"
umbral shoal
mostly was looking for a reliable way to dodge the volley
latent moon
dash lol
umbral shoal
dash doesnt give enough invincibility
umbral shoal
not really
latent moon
dont dash strike, make use of all the iframes
high island
dash doesnt give enough invincibility
Yes, it does.
latent moon
it def does lol
umbral shoal
he tracks you with it
so unless you dodge behind a pillar the direction won't matter
latent moon
dash twice lol
rustic vale
he doesn’t turn that fast
high island
Just like... time your dashes better.
high island
so unless you dodge behind a pillar the direction won't matter
Yeah, it doesn't matter because you're invincible during the dash.
rustic vale
Empty dashing gives invincibility frames
high island
Plus you have a second dash to give you more wiggle room.
Also can just stay close to the curing pool on either side to cure asap if you mess up.
rustic vale
if you don’t have a second dash you have a problem with your mirror
high island
There's also a huge window between attacks where the Dire Satyr just doesn't do anything but move around.
latent moon
if you don’t have a second dash you have a problem with your mirror
barely dodge the first dart so you get a 50% chance of dodging the other ones lol
50% per dart
flawless strategy
high island
barely dodge the first dart so you get a 50% chance of dodging the other ones lo...
Barely dodge the first dart to get 100% dodge chance with the right build, I guess.
stone rune
imagine if rr stacked for each dash
latent moon
Barely dodge the first dart to get 100% dodge chance with the right build, I gue...
that's true, just get a dodge build so you can't get hit assuming you get the first dash right
stone rune
would still be awful :(
high island
It can definitely take some practice to get comfortable enough to get the empty dash timing down for the Dire Satyr, but it's very possible.
rustic vale
would still be awful :(
Not nearly as
high island
how are you gonna near dodge multiple attacks in hades
Probably gonna get Darknessed immediately any time you proc Ruthless Reflex. 
stone rune
just like
in hades
in general
only in normal encounters are you even really gonna have a chance at it
high island
It's 2 seconds.
stone rune
you might get 2 in champions
high island
You can proc it pretty often in boss fights tbh.
stone rune
i mean at once
rustic vale
Lernie and fury sisters with 800 projectiles
high island
Ah, the stacking thought experiment still.
stone rune
ok but why do you need any extrqa bonuses for lernie or furies
rustic vale
free damage
stone rune
one hit
high island
ok but why do you need any extrqa bonuses for lernie or furies
Because you play with Ruthless Reflex.
rustic vale
rr doesn’t last for 1 hit
rustic vale
you aren’t near dodging like every projectile?
stone rune
huh
high island
whats a good strategy for dealing with the miniboss satyr independent of boons
Tbh my go-to strategy is to just have a build strong enough that the fight lasts like a couple seconds at most.
- Meg if I still have a charge.
stone rune
dad
rustic vale
Can be one phased
But actually on like hera, beo and eris I don’t think sub10 seconds for each phase is out of the question
white path
On the one hand, I'm curious about charon's fight (he killed me very quickly first time)
On the other, I'm on a good run and don't want to die
high island
The reward is not really worth it tbh.
white path
the reward is the fight itself
Also:
I just got offered the poseidon/ares duo boon for the first time and.. no dialogue?
Where dialogue :(
I assume that curse of drowning both inflicts doom and knocks away (inflicting rupture)
I don't see the doom. rude
lol why am I being offered to replace flood shot
stone rune
I assume that curse of drowning both inflicts doom and knocks away (inflicting r...
no
all it does is be bad lol
latent moon
It's fun with ME lol
white path
ME?
stone rune
merciful end
toxic trellis
Merciful End
feral belfry
The Hades reddit is doing a voting post for best aspects in a tournament style. I feel like this sub and that sub would have very different results
high island
They post it here, too.
stone rune
but since it's just in this channel it gets buried
high island
Chiron is super popular here, too, just not too much among the more hardcore crowd that's more active.
high island
jazz's point exactly lol.
feral belfry
Lol
Yeah I saw zag bow lost to Chiron and thought it was blasphemy
Watch rama lose to Chiron
stone rune
i wouldn't put it past reddit
latent moon
Watch rama lose to Chiron
I wouldn't be surprised tbh lol
feral belfry
I'm calling it now
latent moon
I called it earlier lol
feral belfry
I second call it
latent moon
Out of all the weapons its gonna be Arthur, Chiron, Achilles, eris, Talos/gilga, and chaos
I said this a bit ago
Chaos I probably gonna win overall tbh lol
feral belfry
I'll die
Chaos over beo or Zeus
We should have rallied and pushed zag sword to the top
high island
chiron beat zagbow
Chiron is Lady Aphrodite's favorite aspect.
So you shouldn't speak badly of it.
feral belfry
latent moon
We should have rallied and pushed zag sword to the top
I don't think any of us care enough lol
Even if chaos wins out of the shields, there's tons of evidence showing that every other shield aspect is better
latent moon
I think it recently got a 2nd 64 heat clear lol
Was almost beaten unmodded
But yeah the Chinese community have recently showed up and they've been crushing heat
woeful trout
chiron beat zagbow
isnt chrion good tho
woeful trout
what weapon should i get 20 heat first with
latent moon
It's objectively the worst bow but it's still good
woeful trout
i guess 10 heat with everything is a good place to start
latent moon
Shield rail or bow is probably gonna be some of the easier ones
woeful trout
already have 10 heat rail
woeful trout
is Zag Bow good
latent moon
Yeah
woeful trout
how so
latent moon
Natural crit chance is good
woeful trout
is it additive
latent moon
Crit chance is additive, I think crit damage is multiplicitive
woeful trout
thunder flourish doesnt make every hit of chrion strike right
because that would be broken
high island
But yeah the Chinese community have recently showed up and they've been crushing...
They've been here lol. That's why we made a Chinese translation of the high heat leaderboard and submission form a long time ago.
latent moon
thunder flourish doesnt make every hit of chrion strike right
Yeah that doesn't work
There's an internal cooldown
high island
Thunder Flourish will hit once on Chiron, normally.
Twice with Relentless Volley.
If you bend your volley, you can sometimes get two hits without Relentless Volley.
silver mica
So that sounds pretty not great
stone rune
piercing volley moment
latent moon
They've been here lol. That's why we made a Chinese translation of the high heat...
Oh yeah true
But they've made a resurgence I guess
high island
You'll find some claims in the wild that Thunder Flourish is "great for AOE" on Chiron, but I wouldn't trust them.
woeful trout
best boon for rama attack?
stone rune
you'll find some claims in the wild that chaos is the beset shield aspect
high island
Heartbreak Strike.
stone rune
aphrodite
latent moon
A beefy attack
stone rune
artemis if you're a monstrous heretic
woeful trout
gonna be real i dont really like running aphrodite that much
stone rune
A beefy % attack, Aphro is very good (ideally not common), or you can go for Artemis because crits, any high rarity % attack can do except Poseidon (avoid that one), for the Special you want flat damage, it's not hard to come by, usually not worth forcing tho, Ares Dio Zeus are the main ones, you can go for Demeter and try to get Killing freeze, it can work pretty well, for the Dash there arent many options because most of them are either anti-synergy or just dont do anything, Artemis however is probably the best in slot dash, because Rama relies on dash strikes and getting dash strike damage is just good, Athena is a good one too because deflecting is nice, another important thing for Rama is hammers, ideally you want Triple Shot or Twin Shot for your first hammer, if not offered you can go for Perfect or Point Blank, and for the second hammer you usually want Perfect or Point Blank (assuming Triple or Twin first) but the order can be the other way here, if you get Perfect Shot as first hammer then it's fine too, hammers to avoid are Sniper shot (blocks Twins shot) and also doesnt do anything, and Repulse shot, Explosive is a bit of an odd one, it's nice in some scenarios but hard to play, Chain shot is okay, wont do much in bosses. Rama is difficult and needs practice but it's really good when it comes to heat especially, it's a good idea to watch vods of people who are good at it and try to implement their movement and decision making in your runs
stone rune
gonna be real i dont really like running aphrodite that much
i think you should be eaten
high island
silver mica
Looking back on when I played today perhaps it wasn't such an amazing idea to fry a challenge while also doing my first em4 run
But lmfao I think it went surprisingly well since I lost almost no health to Theseus
high island
A challenge?
Do the latest monthly challenge that's pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat.
silver mica
That's what I was doing
high island
Oh nice.
silver mica
I figured Thanatos would be the easiest to run of thr three
stone rune
meg
silver mica
But ugh doggo was not who I expected to see
high island
Speaking of it, @stone rune, you haven't submitted your run. 🔫
stone rune
oh yeah
silver mica
And that gorgon head just completely ruined the run for me
high island
Sure.
stone rune
sucks up my internet for like 2 hours
silver mica
Good luck! <:dusa:522248771409543188>
🙏
woeful trout
I’m realizing the one universal constant between all rougelike discords is that they think redditors are stupid
stone rune
Speaking of it, <@752689126448300033>, you haven't submitted your run. 🔫 <:dusa...
where do i put my dedication
special notes?
high island
Yeah.
stone rune
submitted
high island
I’m realizing the one universal constant between all rougelike discords is that ...
Well, if you see people here calling redditors stupid, you can remind them of rule 1.
stone rune
i'll get disciple tonight
high island
Good luck!
silver mica
if rng is kind
Rng was not to me
Actually it was okay
I had Aphro attack and Demeter Special
high island
if rng is kind
If you don't get it the second time, that just means you need to dedicate more runs to earn your title.
silver mica
Pressure points
high island
In the name of love!
stone rune
is it like speedcord where you can do 3run
silver mica
Triple shot and explosive shot is my favourite combination
high island
You can dedicate as many runs as you like.
woeful trout
Just accidentally skipped a chaos door
high island
Explosive kinda difficult to work with if you don't have a lot of experience playing bow.
silver mica
Oh yeah first few times using it wasn't so great
And I waa dumb so I didn't know that some hammers just are a dumb matchup with it
dry island
the sculpt for the new Hades figure looks very good
silver mica
(Just my own opinion based on how I play ofc, won't go for everyone)
silver mica
Just accidentally skipped a chaos door
What did you take instead
dry island
and ofc its some pre-order only sculpt...oh no xo
high island
The nature of votes on posts like on reddit just creates an echo chamber of low quality info tbh because most readers who vote aren't qualified to judge the posts. So you see top players getting downvoted by casual players while something like "Sea Storm is OP" gets tons of upvotes. Which makes more hardcore players abandon the platform.
silver mica
Kinda the same with all the posts I see about picking hammers or encounters
high island
Meanwhile the conversational style on Discord + channels for endgame content makes it apparent pretty quickly who has a clue what they're talking about. Plus, no downvotes here from casual players and lurkers.
silver mica
Like unless it's for story purposes, you have to really think about how useful a visit to Pat really is
high island
Not really. He's pretty much priority #1 in any run when you see him.
stone rune
well
silver mica
But I only really go for heals and stuff
stone rune
what
high island
That's the option you should hope you can take. It's amazing.
silver mica
I have this horrible habit of making mistakes once it runs out bc I forget about it not being there anymore 😭
woeful trout
What did you take instead
I didn’t see it until I got on the passages
silver mica
I'm a forgetful person at times lmfao
high island
Well, only way to get better at that is to take it more often.
silver mica
I've started trying to
high island
Or just one-shot everything anyway because it's Styx by the time it runs out, and all the meta builds have Styx shredders built in.
stone rune
do i reset my SD for earring
high island
do i reset my SD for earring
Always trust your heart.
woeful trout
How hard is it to get all achievements
woeful trout
Like all prophecies
stone rune
How hard is it to get all achievements
most of them aren't that bad
all prophecies sucks
but that's not an achievement
woeful trout
The duo boon one sounds terrible
stone rune
the only really awful achievement is the all keepsakes maxed
omg aph on door exit
need 4 more
including lego
high island
I got almost all of the achievements immediately within a couple minutes after downloading 1.0.
silver mica
That's the option you should hope you can take. It's amazing.
I have to say jerky select was very useful against EM Theseus
high island
So it can't be too hard.
silver mica
More specifically against Asterius
stone rune
i should probably take legacy for this
high island
i should probably take legacy for this
Follow your heart!
m giving so many tips this time.
stone rune
oh my god the tdash is 2 hitting lernie summons
woeful trout
Is there a Gilgamesh build that doesn’t rely on the 2 extra dashes
But rather actually Miaming
high island
Yeah, bad ones.
stone rune
But rather actually Miaming
32 heat boonless mirrorless
high island
Miaming.
silver mica
I think if I do the monthly challenge I gotta do it with zagbow
Just for thematic consistency or something like that lmfao
stone rune
aphrodite boon #3
in ely tho
got the lego
aphrodite boon #4
aphrodite boon #5
now i have an issue
i'm literally above pace
i have all 6 boons and a lego
but i'm gonna be too fast
high island
But rather actually Miaming
Any build that uses Maim isn't gonna be either/or. You still want to make use of the dashes that you have. Like, Retrash uses a lot of Maim in the high heat WR but also relies on the damage from Blade Dash... which gets amplified by Maim. https://youtu.be/pUPWgs-27BQ
stone rune
idk if i have it in me to wait for 7 minutes
high island
idk if i have it in me to wait for 7 minutes
Go get a snack, that's what Lady Aphrodite would do.