including billowing strength, rush delivery, blinding flash, urge to kill, hide breaker, and some more i forgot
#h1-discussion
mint coral
Find a way to somehow proc that dio boon
woeful trout
Find a way to somehow proc that dio boon
brb
solar vault
Breaching slash on armoured enemy?
mint coral
Global boost when 3 enemies with habgover
woeful trout
Global boost when 3 enemies with habgover
already in
mint coral
Dio legendary?
woeful trout
yea
mint coral
Bad news feom hermes?
mint coral
That one is global, not cast dmg
solar vault
it's bugged
mint coral
Is bugged lmao
solar vault
Breaching slash on armoured enemy?
this?
mint coral
Hydro might?
latent moon
i'm assuming these were all heroic boons
latent moon
lmao that's very fair
mint coral
Wait is this with rd right
woeful trout
whats rd
latent moon
rush delivery
woeful trout
yes
latent moon
heroic is +125%
woeful trout
i considered haste, hyper sprint, and the one that increases speed with call
solar vault
ichors I guess are unlimited?
woeful trout
since those are the only ways to boost speed without changing the weapon or keepsake
latent moon
ichors I guess are unlimited?
no well items
stone rune
ichors I guess are unlimited?
we were not consdienrg thinges
mint coral
Ah you arent following the 3 hermes boons
latent moon
big codex mod energy
mint coral
Was gonna ask if bad news or greater haste would be better for that calc lol
latent moon
doens't the number get cut off because of how much armor there is lmao
stone rune
i think this is more boons than there are chambers in a 5 sack at this point
latent moon
oh did we get blinding flash bonus backstab damage
mint coral
doens't the number get cut off because of how much armor there is lmao
Shotouts to that clip of rama doing 1! To the armor of a cloned enemy
latent moon
lmao yeah
woeful trout
oh did we get blinding flash bonus backstab damage
yes
latent moon
neat
mint coral
Rav will from dem?
woeful trout
considered
mint coral
Wait are you counting 
?
woeful trout
Wait are you counting <:bouldy:523329116934635534> ?
my god
something i actually did forget
how much does bouldy give
woeful trout
77540 damage
mint coral
Rd moment
latent moon
yes
woeful trout
DAMNIT
latent moon
lmfao
mint coral
Lmao
stone rune
wow i cant believe speedrunners dont use arthur... this is so easy and will instaphase hades!!!
woeful trout
ill be right back
mint coral
How much is jeroic second wind again
stone rune
jeroic
mint coral
39?
stone rune
me when i get my jeroic boons:
latent moon
yeah 39
latent moon
based
stone rune
you used dad keepsake right
woeful trout
yes
woeful trout
i even considered bonus damage from ruthless reflect
mint coral
Yesnt
latent moon
lmfao
mint coral
Iirc there is some weirdness where with hyper sprint, dad move speed isnt taken account of
mint coral
Prob better to search for pseudo on that
woeful trout
im not gonna consider this since theres no source at all on how much the speed increase is
mint coral
Was gonna say that lol
stone rune
patty?
mint coral
Patty is just a fancy well
woeful trout
skull earing can be funky
Hades call:
latent moon
neat
woeful trout
battle rage
stone rune
than keepsake?
latent moon
dad call is always better
woeful trout
i dont think 100 rooms are possible
i guess its not 100 because i never use butterfly
woeful trout
besides its somewhat luck dependant
latent moon
this whole build isn't possible in the first place
mint coral
Would have to pray for erebus extensions for max butterfly lol
woeful trout
now i have a lot easier to answer but perhaps even dumber question
whats the max damage possible in house of hades
in single hit
mint coral
As in skelly or straight up in the house
woeful trout
skelly
stone rune
fiery shackle arthur
woeful trout
high confidence
mint coral
Do you count maim as a different hit from the dash upper?
woeful trout
i suppose yes
if doom doesnt count i dont see why maim should
since maim is just a funky doom
mint coral
Arthur again then ig
woeful trout
could you switch from gilgamesh after maiming to hit with arthur
woeful trout
actually this is pointless i got a test to study for why am i doing this
latent moon
isn't there that funky cast thingy you can do to get more than 3 of them
how many casts can you stack
stone rune
wouldn't those count as separate hits
mint coral
Just look at an optimized stygian soul run for that tbh
latent moon
oh yeah
stone rune
hera and beo both unload them over time
mint coral
I've seeen reddit posts where asterius/dad names in the health bar are covered by the cast icon
latent moon
it's prob just still arthur lmao
mint coral
200 base dmg kinda good
latent moon
yeah lmao
at this point we're just looking what has the single highest biggest number
which is the same exact thing we did earlier
stone rune
hestia is better because it is cooler
mint coral
Arthur looks > hestia tho
stone rune
what
mint coral
In terms of design
Arthur with the glow is pretty
Also somehow hestia not having a scope but eris does
stone rune
yeah because every hestia shot is an epic 360 noscope
latent moon
isn't the scope on eris obstructed
latent moon
just you
lone sable
Pun intended?
spring knoll
The rule is: If you're trying to go fast then the sack is in the last door. If you're trying to explore all the tunnels for buffs first and are hoping to use the well to top off your health before the hades fight then it'll be in the second door.
latent moon
it's impossible to get sack on the first door
opal wharf
i just realised
i never did heat 0 for some weapons
but i did heat 1
i also realised i never completed a run with the spear
which is quite a shame
brisk trail
spear is great, you can even cosplay as dad
but then you realize being dad doesn't play well and sucks and is miserable and not a fun time
lone sable
Imma be honest the spear feels aquard to play
brisk trail
i like zagreus and achilles aspects, the other two I have trouble enjoying
spring knoll
yeah the charge attack on the spear seems pretty terrible. Like I'm sure it has great paper dps, but I rarely seem to find openings where I can use it without getting hit.
opal wharf
2k crits with hidden sword ant crit build
is nice
i killed lernie at like 15% of its life
calm zenith
Charged special can be pretty good on Zagreus and Quan Yu
It's just very hammer dependent. If you dont get the hammers it just sucks.
If you do you can get like 2k crits
Keep at it. There is a nice rhythm you can get where you can definitely dodge, though how well depends on heat, inbetween throwing it out
You kite enemies so they line up into a group, with Exploding Launcher
brisk trail
You kite enemies so they line up into a group, with Exploding Launcher
its like zagreus is manually chucking mortar shells
pseudo spruce
Can I beat Thanatos up
That emo annoys me
opal wharf
Can I beat Thanatos up
That emo annoys me
maybe in hades ll
gray apex
Volume got a 4:30 modded time
Volume gud player tbh
brisk trail
world splitter turns nemesis into a little mini arthur 
pseudo spruce
We need to get Hades pvp
gentle flower
pseudo spruce
But sub 15 is nothing
lone sable
challange who can survive em dad the most without getting hit
brisk trail
whats a good way to make eris special faster
brisk trail
ok but whats a good thing to throw onto gilgamesh special
wait
how hard would ME go on gilg
cause maxed out maim is just like dollar store doom
gray apex
ME is probably the best build on Gilga
brisk trail
i was thinking of doing a pos dash build but ion wanna
gray apex
That's the next best thing
brisk trail
i have a stupid question feel free to bully me
if i manage to get ME and purge athena off my special, can i replace it with doom and keep ME?
static wren
have you got it to work?? it’s literally the last achievement i need and im kind of losing my mind about it
jesus lmao why does the RNG have to suck this bad with a quest not even an item
left scaffold
have you got it to work?? it’s literally the last achievement i need and im kind...
no
static wren
agony
left scaffold
if you research this and other achievements online, you get the impression that many people experience issues and that the developers are not adressing them.
many people explain how they got it and think the underlying mechanics work, but no one knows for sure
left scaffold
research on achievement issues boil down to "keep playing/grinding and eventually it will pop, but no guarantee"
static wren
research on achievement issues boil down to "keep playing/grinding and eventuall...
exactly 😭
that’s what countless searches got me
left scaffold
how many runs or hours ago did your Divided by Death prophecy get started?
static wren
how many runs or hours ago did your Divided by Death prophecy get started?
it didn’t even get started LOL
i’ve literally done every other quest
i don’t even have the prophecy in my table
left scaffold
also, I'm 130 hrs in and have yet only 2 companions... i need 4 more for the cheevo! ridiculous. each time I see Dusa with an explamaintion mark, i think "oooh, shes got something for me, this is finally the companion", but no, each time just useless chitchat.
left scaffold
i don’t even have the prophecy in my table
oh, i see! that is another strage constellation. for everyone, achievement issues are never the same. its really weird and complex.
tacit dock
also, I'm 130 hrs in and have yet only 2 companions... i need 4 more for the che...
dosen't dusa give the companion after you gave her ambrosia after the lock?
left scaffold
i had set out to 100% hades, but close to completion, i am now getting frustrated and worried it might not even work due to technical issues.
left scaffold
dosen't dusa give the companion after you gave her ambrosia after the lock?
not sure. i just give nectar/ambrosia and talk whenever i have the chance. after every run, i do my routine inspection through all npc in the house.
void vigil
if youre worried something is bugged with your save, you can always verify files just in case or write in #h1-tech-support
static wren
also, I'm 130 hrs in and have yet only 2 companions... i need 4 more for the che...
buy all the lounge stuff
that worked for me
after like two three runs she’ll talk to u
left scaffold
that worked for me
really? you mean in terms of advancing towards dusa's companion? why thank you game for hinting at that! 😉
static wren
Lmaooooo
left scaffold
i dont think i even have enough gems to buy all the deco.
static wren
you’ll have to for another achievement anyway
there’s this one that’s asking u to buy 50
pieces
void vigil
you dont need all of it, you only need 12 lounge decorations
left scaffold
spefic from the category "lounge"... hmm ok, ill check if i have 12
void vigil
including a rug and the cerberus scratches and fur cleaning
static wren
yeah, that prophecy (it think it's buy 20 deco) i have.
btw
how did you unlock the divided by death prophecy
it won’t pop up on the table for me
i have to get the risk it all dialogue from patroclus first right
void vigil
did you do musician and muse or end to torment?
static wren
did you do musician and muse or end to torment?
did both
left scaffold
how did you unlock the divided by death prophecy
i honestly dont remember. that prophecy has been active on my list since like 30-40 hours and countless runs ago (weeks in real life).
static wren
i pretty much completed everything in the game besides divided by death
void vigil
are achilles and pat at 6 nectar?
void vigil
hmm
left scaffold
yep
tacit dock
what's the max on god's legacy ?
left scaffold
another prophecy that simply wont complete is "beat EM theseus, then seek poseidon". beat him on EM long ago, but poseidon doesnt care. however this one is urelated to achievement collecting.
left scaffold
what's the max on god's legacy ?
what is that?
static wren
i pretty much completed everything in the game besides divided by death
so is like
tacit dock
what is that?
in the mirror
static wren
in the mirror
the green one right? should be 20%
void vigil
i dont know, but you could write in #h1-tech-support
void vigil
another prophecy that simply wont complete is "beat EM theseus, then seek poseid...
did you try beating extreme measures 3 and then starting with his keepsake the next run?
left scaffold
in the mirror
for what is that important? how can people know all these mysterious factors for phrophecy/dialogue advancement, like "12 lounge decos must be bought", "20% god's legacy", and so on.
left scaffold
did you try beating extreme measures 3 and then starting with his keepsake the n...
exactly, that yes, as this was suggested on the web
tacit dock
for what is that important? how can people know all these mysterious factors for...
well i try to get Bad News boon
void vigil
maybe he still had new dialogue that took priority then
left scaffold
nope, when I pickup poseidon boons, it's usually silent without dialog
void vigil
also i believe the game has a prophecy that tells you how many lounge decorations to buy, called "a place of revelry"
left scaffold
i have 6 cheevos left to collect: max out the keepsakes (ok, soon there), 2nd skelly prize (ok, keep practicing/improving, will get), divided by death (grind the f* out of the game and hope it pops one day).
...which is what I will do tonight ^^
the achievements all passed QA from the devs I assume, besides, many people have them all, but despite that there are tons of issues reported on the web, the devs will not adress them at this point anymore, because they are working on Hades 2.
high island
Hades 1 was their first game with so many dialogue trees. m sure it will be improved a lot for Hades 2.
mint coral
what's the max on god's legacy ?
10%
brisk trail
someone explain to my dumb nut brain what makes hunting blades achilles good
woeful trout
someone explain to my dumb nut brain what makes hunting blades achilles good
Basically I think
Achilles special makes your next 4 attacks or casts stronger
And hunting blades last for a long duration even with one cast
So it basically means you just have to use the special once and your next 4 hunting blades are much stronger
brisk trail
so bull rush is dependet on number of attacks instead of a time limit?
woeful trout
Yes
brisk trail
that makes sense ig
latent moon
It's also a 150% boost
And casts have some of the best pom scaling and damage in general
In Elysium it can clear whole waves because of how tightly grouped enemies can get
lone sable
And hunting blades also has some very strong reliable damage
brisk trail
what should i put ares on to get the prereqs for hunting blades then
lone sable
Which doesnt get stuck in the enemy
latent moon
what should i put ares on to get the prereqs for hunting blades then
Only his cast is the prereq lol
brisk trail
OH MY GOD IM DUMB LMAO
latent moon
You can't get hunting blades with anything else except the cast
lone sable
Wait can you get hunting blades then sell ares cast and get another cast
If so, does that do anything besides waste potential?
latent moon
Wait can you get hunting blades then sell ares cast and get another cast
No
Now you'll have a useless duo boon lol
lone sable
Sell it as well
stone rune
so real
lone sable
Now you have money
latent moon
Why do that when stubborn roots and unshakable mettle exists
woeful trout
Why do that when stubborn roots and unshakable mettle exists
I hate unshakable mettle
latent moon
At least tdash and ddash don't open it lmao
stone rune
nothing should open parting shot
latent moon
After that point it's pretty uncommon to want Poseidon and Athena cores at the same time
The only time this happens is when you go for curse of drowning after getting ME lmao
latent moon
Mirage shot
stone rune
sweet nectar
solar vault
pommed exclusive access
mint coral
Mirage shot
early access moment
latent moon
Oh really lmfao
stone rune
mint coral
It was a normal boon before called dual shot
stone rune
this is awesome
latent moon
Get wombo comboed nerd
latent moon
It was a normal boon before called dual shot
Oh lmao why can't we have that now
Break beo even more
mint coral
Iirc the hermes cast boons were from arte before too
stone rune
bananas does your name happen to be matt
latent moon
No why
latent moon
Oh lol
olive smelt
is hades locked to greek mythology only is do we ever see their roman counterparts
viral socket
latent moon
Is this first or second hammer
latent moon
Rocket is better in general for first hammer, but if you want a marginally better chance at cluster rockets, then cluster first
stone rune
Rocket is better in general for first hammer, but if you want a marginally bette...
oh cause cluster disables like triple?
latent moon
What aspect is this anyways
silver mica
Zag
latent moon
oh cause cluster disables like triple?
I think so yeah
silver mica
Haven't won with it yet
stone rune
spread fire is goal on zag
latent moon
Well
silver mica
I got zeus attack
latent moon
spread fire is goal on zag
Not really lol
latent moon
Playing it as bad eris is actually fine
Spread fire is only good if you actually have levels in it
And even then, bad eris is easier to play than eris
Because you have more ammo and don't have the have the damage boost upkeep
stone rune
on eris does special have same timing as hestia
silver mica
Might try go athena aid?
stone rune
ddash
silver mica
Nah I got rupture dash lmfao
rustic vale
oh cause cluster disables like triple?
And hazard
rustic vale
Rockets is incompatible with hazard, cluster bomb is incompatible with hazard and triple
stone rune
yeah i didnt say hazard cause both
rustic falcon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/820856028321021982/1072969895425364009/image.png
why is the game forcing me to go for Ares i cant even reroll it or take any other option i was hoping for the last boon slot to be aproh boon
silver mica
You can hope for the revenge boon then ig?
rustic vale
That’s just called bad rng
Anyways it’s time for all 0 fated authority fans to rise up and shill it
rustic falcon
lol that one time i was actually going for a control build in mind
rng ruins it
tho i got blizzard shot duo with flurry cast so far so ig ares not bad
charred hemlock
question does aspect of zagreus adamant rail with explosive fire and frost strike spread the chill to nearby enemies?
stone rune
i'd assume it'd chill enemies it hits
rustic vale
yes
high island
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/820856028321021982/1072969895425364009/im...
That's your own fault for not taking her Eternal Rose.
🔫 
latent moon
it do be like that
silver mica
Athena was refusing to give me a defiance
latent moon
did you have a core boon from her to begin with
silver mica
And then after I spent 450 in styx on her, guess what I found?
Kiss of styx I couldn't afford.
silver mica
did you have a core boon from her to begin with
Call
Time for my favourite part of the game now anyways
craggy pine
Fishing?
silver mica
Rage quitting :)
gray apex
You need a priority boon not a core boon
silver mica
Not because I failed that run but because I messed up a fishing point earlier
craggy pine
I had a fun run with Lucifer yesterday. I discovered that I don’t have to shoot the bombs, I can dash them with tidal dash and set them off. I had the hammer that lets me special 3x fast. So it was like plopplopplop Dash! Plopplopplop Dash! It was amazing
silver mica
yeah i thought it was core but it's priority
Oh i see
I didn't know it required priority
That's me being dumb then lmfao
silver mica
I had a fun run with Lucifer yesterday. I discovered that I don’t have to shoot...
Oh i didn't know I didn't have to shoot them
craggy pine
Me neither until yesterday!
silver mica
Crazy
latent moon
triple bomb luci moment
craggy pine
I barely shot anything. Just bombs and dashing
brisk trail
I had a fun run with Lucifer yesterday. I discovered that I don’t have to shoot...
hell yeah does this only work with tidal dash?
latent moon
all dashes
any damaging dash
and you can't get hunters dash on luci anyways
so any dash you get on luci will work
tdash has the largest aoe (pretty sure) and damage
floral heath
hello, i was looking for ways to unlock companion keepsakes and i didnt find anything. so i came here to look for some help. can someone help me?
craggy pine
They all involve ambrosia
latent moon
you need to give ambrosia to a certain 6 people
craggy pine
Lots of ambrosia
latent moon
which means you ahve to complete their favor
is it a lot?
isn't it just 1
to unlock the companion
1 each
floral heath
i think so
craggy pine
I guess 6 is a lot
latent moon
6 isn't too much considering how much you get from prophecies lol
and considering that they dont have any use until that point basically
brisk trail
as a former poor it was a lot
latent moon
unless you've been trading them all titan blood
floral heath
i traded like 2..
craggy pine
I thought it was a lot at the time, though I really struggled with Theseus for a while there
latent moon
you should have a good chunk at this point then
brisk trail
i wished i traded more blood for gemstones looking back
floral heath
ok so how do i get them?
latent moon
complete the favor for a certain 6 people
floral heath
who
latent moon
favors can be found on the wiki
floral heath
ok
craggy pine
Sisyphus
latent moon
yes
floral heath
ok
craggy pine
I use the Sisyphus companion most of the time now
stone rune
meg
brisk trail
ik meg's is meta but i love than's
floral heath
whose companion is the best?
floral heath
ok i gave her nectar until she has a heart with a lock
how do i give her ambrosia now?
stone rune
rng dialogue
floral heath
whats that
floral heath
i have her maxed out
latent moon
oh it is rng dialogue actually yeah
floral heath
whats the rng dialouge
latent moon
after she appears in your room the 2nd time, you can give her ambrosia
stone rune
that's later
floral heath
after she appears in your room the 2nd time, you can give her ambrosia
oh ok
is there something i can do to make her show up faster or no?
floral heath
ok
stone rune
beat meg -> 1erf
brisk trail
violence is always the answer
floral heath
beat meg -> 1erf
whats erf?
stone rune
reset
latent moon
1erf is the reset hotkey with the speedrun modpack
craggy pine
Just keep fighting her and talking to her
floral heath
1erf is the reset hotkey with the speedrun modpack
i dont have mods
floral heath
Just keep fighting her and talking to her
ok
uh
im in a fight with charon rn lol
2nd time
i died :(
why is he stronger than hades
brisk trail
imagine fighting nyx
floral heath
wait we can fight her?
brisk trail
naur but we can dream
floral heath
lol
vital spade
Hades? More like ||Gaydes||
stone rune
opal wharf
hell
wait
mankind is dead
hell is full
blood is fuel ??
wtf
ultrakill is actually Hades ?
stone rune
arent' they about 30 degrees off
uh
what
you're telling me the spear just goes through the pillar
latent moon
no that was thunder flourish on his spear lol
stone rune
why does he have thunder flourish
latent moon
zeus is supporting him
stone rune
and why does it go through walls
stone rune
literally what the hell was i meant to do
stone rune
1 dash
latent moon
you can still dodge with 1 dash
stone rune
you cant get farther from the pillar
stone rune
yeah ik
but like his spear just shouldnt have through pillar aoe based on rng thats weird
latent moon
you can do the same thing to other enemies lmao
weary juniper
Ah... Not sure where to ask this, but I am having trouble starting the Achilles/Pat quest. I've done all other achievements, maxed out all other bonds and maxed theirs as far as they go before the lock appears, but neither starts the quest no matter how many times I talk to them. It doesn't help that Pat has only appeared once in the last 6-ish runs I've done
stone rune
rng
glad bone
Anyone know how delta chamber interacts with aspect of hestia?
stone rune
Anyone know how delta chamber interacts with aspect of hestia?
it sucks
literally the worst possible hammer
hardy spear
you can still reload
stone rune
yeah
but it does absolutely nothing for you
flurry fire, spread fire at least sort of help if you get caught out or something
delta chamber is useless
weary juniper
It's like getting the Hazard Bomb with Aspect of Eris
stone rune
no
hardy spear
nah
hardy spear
just iframe the hazard bomb
weary juniper
That feels like insanity
hardy spear
flurry fire, spread fire at least sort of help if you get caught out or somethin...
i detest spread fire
stone rune
L
glad bone
i detest spread fire
It's actually not bad with Zag aspect.
hardy spear
That feels like insanity
wouldn't recommend it
weary juniper
Spread fire is not ideal, but it is nice for mooks
rustic vale
Spreadfire is only good on zag
hardy spear
It's actually not bad with Zag aspect.
im talking about hestia
glad bone
im talking about hestia
Yeah it's pretty bad on hestia.
Best I've found is ricochet on hestia.
hardy spear
eh
stone rune
ricochet is the best fire upgrade on hestia
rustic vale
Rocket and cluster
weary juniper
I love Cluster. Cluster is so much dumb fun
hardy spear
i like hazard more than ricochet
stone rune
hazard is not a fire upgrade
hardy spear
ik
weary juniper
Does Cluster work with the hidden aspect? I've only ever gotten tripple with that one
stone rune
and yeah that's because hazard is one of the best hammers
hardy spear
Does Cluster work with the hidden aspect? I've only ever gotten tripple with tha...
no
hardy spear
doesnt show up
weary juniper
Figured
stone rune
triple is lucifer best hammer
weary juniper
Wanted to make sure
hardy spear
clockets lucifer wouldve been beautiful
weary juniper
It would have been madness
I've never actually done Clockets, but it sounds AMAZING. Gotta give it a try at some point
hardy spear
relatively rare
weary juniper
I mean... Yeah. Getting any specific combo for hammers is always gonna be rare
stone rune
cluster -> rockets is marginally more likely than rockets -> cluster
weary juniper
Also... No idea how popular this opinion is, but my favorite hammer for Malphon are the Kinetic Launchers
hardy spear
most fist hammers are pretty eh
stone rune
it's the second best hammer on dem isn't it
hardy spear
i like breaching cross
weary juniper
Oh yeah. For Demeter its INSANE
rustic vale
it's the second best hammer on dem isn't it
3rd best
hardy spear
it's the second best hammer on dem isn't it
explosive upper?
rustic vale
For speed
weary juniper
Eh. Dont like getting Anti-armor hammers. Mostly cause they aren't much help against bosses
rustic vale
It’s after breaching cross and explosive upper for speed
For heat it’s still 3rd I think behind breaching, long knuckle
stone rune
thankfully i don't find myself using fists often
hardy spear
Eh. Dont like getting Anti-armor hammers. Mostly cause they aren't much help aga...
i only ever run ME on fists anyway so boss damage isnt really a problem
rustic vale
Eh. Dont like getting Anti-armor hammers. Mostly cause they aren't much help aga...
It absolutely just eliminates armour from the enemies so it’s time save
woeful trout
Gilgamesh is so fun too bad it sucks apparently
stone rune
you know what
i dont even wanna know
i want to know as little about fists as possible
i just wanna hest
rustic vale
Unsure
latent moon
so long knuckle IS best for heat?
long knuckle is good for em4
idk if it translates to the rest of high heat tho
i would assume so
considering how anti-melee the game is
hardy spear
aspect of ME
stone rune
i put long knuckle on for my fist 32
weary juniper
That's fair, just dont care all that much about speed. My best time is 21 one minutes and I've already got the Hermes achievo. I'd rather be able to do better against bosses rather than go faster against mooks
stone rune
and i haven't touched fists since
woeful trout
What’s the hardest pact
latent moon
explosive upper on dem is good boss damage lmao
weary juniper
Fists are my fave personally, followed by Gun
stone rune
What’s the hardest pact
ri or ap probably
woeful trout
Well whcih one is the hardest
latent moon
depends how much ri
rustic vale
Eh. Dont like getting Anti-armor hammers. Mostly cause they aren't much help aga...
Breaching is better then really any of the other fist hammers though
latent moon
but ri1 can suck
woeful trout
ri or ap probably
What are those two again
stone rune
deactivates mirror and boon options removed
hardy spear
ri i reckon over ap by quite a bit
latent moon
i'd take ap1 over ri1 tbf
hardy spear
easily
latent moon
ap2 vs more ri can be sketchy
latent moon
i mean some aspects needs more boons than others
stone rune
HESTIA 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪
latent moon
yeah hestia is pretty resistant to both ri and ap
hardy spear
hestia my beloved
hardy spear
stone rune
arthur is just weird hestia
latent moon
i mean arthur doesn't need boons other than the atk lmao
it's just other things that work against it on the pact
td3, fo2
stone rune
fo2
i remember i nearly died on my arthur 12 heat cause i put on fo1
and then i did 12 0 heat runs
latent moon
fo2 arthur sounds fun
hardy spear
fo2 arthur sounds fun
idk what fo0 arthur feels like fo2 stays on forever
latent moon
lmao mood
latent moon
or i heaerd that's out of date
arthur beat 57 unmodded or something
stone rune
mirrorless:
latent moon
oh lmao
stone rune
it was in reference to "fo2 stays on"
latent moon
a lot of the high heat records are about 57 lol
latent moon
i think em4 is just always taken at that point
hardy spear
yeah
stone rune
oh
latent moon
it's prob like dc, ri, and cp2
hardy spear
cp2 sounds so tame on paper
latent moon
it really does lmao
stone rune
when i was starting out my first pacts were js3 and then cp2
latent moon
same with dc
stone rune
i remember a bit ago
i was like
"can't you just eris for a bit into a room with hestia for dc"
vital spade
lost halo
guess who just beat hades
gray apex
me
raw herald
210 bloodstones???
stone rune
i hate greatshields
limber ether
???
stone rune
300 hp in ely and i lose 200 in c34 to them
what the hell am i meant to do
this is so awesome
i did after like 90 seconds
brisk trail
if i have a chaos entrance at the first tartarus room, can i just give my run up until i get a fishing spot...
im desperate
rustic vale
You’d have to give up and then change rng every time
brisk trail
like choose a different weapon/hidden aspect?
rustic vale
No
Casting, summoning, destroying objects
Each of them pushes the rng counter 1 tick
You’d have to increasingly push it more and more
brisk trail
got it call me the rng manipulator
rustic vale
That’s my understanding of how it works
brisk trail
any em4 hades tips?
like asap im about to get absolutely violated lmao
ok so
nvm
first em4 win haha
high island
any em4 hades tips?
All the EM4 tips you could want: https://docs.google.com/document/d/126vagPhjSWQMR1x8O9tJT3neweSTdUUfw2pNVjqX7lU/edit#
woeful trout
whats the best companion overall
ive been using sisyphus for a while now and i think i could probably get something better
mint coral
Meg is most used for heat/speedrunning for what is worth
stone rune
me when my niece has a use:
rustic vale
I think antos also finds use
stone rune
ive never actually used it so whats wrong with than
it has a delay right
oh what da hell
stone rune
33%:
rustic vale
?
brisk trail
second em4 win baybeeeeeeeeee
woeful trout
i should try crystal beams one day
latent moon
It’s less about furies and more about 1 shotting sneak I believe
Yeah pretty much
But after that then there isn't much use for antos
That meg can't do better
woeful trout
time to see how fast hunting blades demolishes hades
My game crashed
Should be illegal to make games as good as this
Died in 11 seconds, i think thats a record
oh my god WHY WONT MEG APPEAR
brisk trail
3rd em4 win in a row tonight im on a roll
woeful trout
just got 4.32
What setup
stone rune
hl5 guan yu? not sure what else you can do
latent moon
lmao
woeful trout
You can disable the bonus HP mirror and not the dash
stone rune
all mirror off except 2nd dash
latent moon
i mean no thick skin guan yu is literally 25 hp
hl5 makes lout charges do like 14 damage?
16?
latent moon
yeah it's def possible to get one shot lol
woeful trout
i mean no thick skin guan yu is literally 25 hp
No thick skin guan yu is 15 if you don’t have it leveled up
Like me
latent moon
oh lmfao
woeful trout
I also use bracer keepsake
stone rune
bruiser doing 40 is all you need
woeful trout
Btw is it just me or does most keepsakes kinda suck
latent moon
hl5 thug does 20 damage lol
stone rune
bruiser
latent moon
bp isn't necessary for this tbh
stone rune
hl5 bruiser does 40
latent moon
lvl 1 guan yu is all you need
stone rune
lvl 1 guan yu is too annoying
latent moon
well it works for these purposes
stone rune
id need a save file
stone rune
bruiser.......?
latent moon
skill issue
stone rune
new category: ff to lvl1 guan yu
high island
new category: ff to lvl1 guan yu
It's not a category until somebody does it.
Your chance to get a WR.
stone rune
it'd probably be a few days long
high island
Still WR.
woeful trout
never upgrading guan yu just for this purpose
high island
it'd probably be a few days long
"My run took 2 days but I finally escaped."
Just saw that on the subreddit lol.
This could be your WR. 
opal wharf
if you find the armored butterfly room with the hidden bow literally just give up
horrible
calm zenith
Nah it just depends on the setup
You have to prepare for that fight with that aspect
Conversely, a good special boon on that aspect makes Flame Wheels a joke.
Strengths and weaknesses.
brisk trail
completing the voidskate entry might just be what kills me
calm zenith
Tru
high island
You have to prepare for that fight with that aspect
Wdym prepare for the fight? You can do that boonless just fine.
rustic vale
completing the voidskate entry might just be what kills me
Just focus on other completionist goals while going for it
Aight I’ve come up with a new hades speedrun category
Unseen One%
😈
opal wharf
It was 1 sitting as well
How
pseudo spruce
So you get money for getting a WR
rustic vale
?
raw herald
Nothing except whatever revenue you get from YouTube views
brisk trail
Hiya all I just got hades like 1 and a half hour ago
pseudo spruce
So what's the point
These WR's take a long time but you basically get nothing in return
raw herald
Knowing that you’ve got the best ever result in the world at something is enough
analog elbow
So what's the point
These WR's take a long time but you basically get nothing in...
Oh my friend, you forget that you get to brag about it to others online
What's more valuable than that?
raw herald
Luckily none of the wr holders do this to the point where it becomes annoying
dull niche
So what's the point
These WR's take a long time but you basically get nothing in...
so true
latent moon
Lmfao
opal wharf
Played the run for 2 day straight obviously
Ok new challenge escape your house and find your way to the surface to touch grass but in real life this time
opal wharf
Hiya all I just got hades like 1 and a half hour ago<:zaggrin:101280527077631607...
Hey, glad to see new players, tho i'd advise you avoid this channel and stay in #h1-for-new-players because in this channel people just talk about major spoilers without warning
high island
So what's the point
These WR's take a long time but you basically get nothing in...
I am positive Red Bull will call me any day now to offer me a sponsorship.
So, take that random person on the internet questioning the value of WRs.
Oh wait, I forgot to add my phone number to my videos.
No wonder they never called.
brisk trail
Hey, glad to see new players, tho i'd advise you avoid this channel and stay in ...
Okey
proud nexus
tacit dock
warm dagger
limber ether
is explosive shot rama any good?
gray apex
is explosive shot rama any good?
It’s a decent cope second hammer if you have Twin or Triple. Pretty challenging to play tho.
limber ether
yeah I do have triple
I want big damage number but I already take too much damage from charging up my attack lol
gray apex
Triple is the best complementary hammer for explosive so yea go for it
gray apex
I want big damage number but I already take too much damage from charging up my ...
That’s the issue with it
Just try to charge it as much as possible
You wont get powershots with it
Not realistically
high island
You can just snap-release from point-blank for a lot of your shots.
Which pairs well with Triple Shot.
limber ether
right, sounds good haha
floral heath
hello i wanted to finish this quest from the fated list called wanton ransacking its description is : the son of the god of the dead shall someday slay various armored wardens guarding key underworld chambers.
can someone help me?
high island
hello i wanted to finish this quest from the fated list called wanton ransacking...
You just need to reach the 4th biome for that.
floral heath
You just need to reach the 4th biome for that.
styx?
i have all of them done except just one
floral heath
ok
hardy spear
just do both miniboss tunnels every run and hope
rustic falcon
is God's pride better or God's legacy for the mirror
floral heath
just do both miniboss tunnels every run and hope
ok
hardy spear
is God's pride better or God's legacy for the mirror
depends but pride most of the time
rustic falcon
oh
high island
Mirror Guide in text form by MiKE: #h1-for-new-players message
Mirror Guide in video form by haelian: https://youtu.be/esDk8-B8DFw
floral heath
i have legacy on max
high island
Also pinned in #h1-for-new-players btw.
limber ether
tiny vermin?
floral heath
a lot
limber ether
I see lmao
limber ether
same
latent moon
Are the vermins the big rats
floral heath
yes
latent moon
Oh yeah they're kinda inconvenient
latent moon
It do be like that
floral heath
yes
brisk trail
do you have to skip chaos rooms for a perfect clear run
toxic trellis
Helps if you have the egg
latent moon
I'm assuming you meant for the title at the victory screen
If you want a genuine no hit run, then chaos isn't allowed unless you have egg
brisk trail
yee
brisk trail
If you want a genuine no hit run, then chaos isn't allowed unless you have egg
sounds painful
brisk trail
i'll stay in my mediocrity lane
latent moon
Mood
I've basically peaked at heat and speed and I don't really want to grind for better lol
Maybe I'll get back into 40 heat speed running lol
latent moon
Lmao prob not
What's your time tho
My pb is like 10:30 so there's a lot to cut down from but then there's ap1 lol
gray apex
What's your time tho
Should be 7:02
latent moon
Oh bruh lmao
I can't get any heat that low
I've only done it twice
My pb and a random run
gray apex
Okay beat my 50 heat time
latent moon
Lmao I don't wanna do 50 heat
latent moon
Do I have to follow all the "no deflect and acorn" rule
gray apex
It’s actually 10:16 lol
gray apex
||unmodded||
gray apex
Nah im jk mine was unmodded bc the category wasnt out on src lol
It’s also like 2 sack clockets epic rd
gray apex
So basically just me being scared
latent moon
I wish I got epic rd more often
latent moon
My times would still suck but at least it'll look cool
gray apex
Although hypermodded is giving me blue rd often
gray apex
It’s fun
Just don’t degen too hard
Already burned myself out and the category isn’t even close to being out
gray apex
It should be on sleep’s or museus’ github
latent moon
I'll take a look later today when I get home
latent moon
Cool
rustic falcon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/820856028321021982/1073390050278117476/image.png
this is honestly the best thing in the game
woeful trout
Why won’t meg appear in the house
I’m trying to get her companion
Is this just bad luck or is there a precondition to her appearing
rustic falcon
Is this just bad luck or is there a precondition to her appearing
i have seen Meg appear more often in the house if i have beaten her the run before coming back to the house, tho i am not a Hades pro at all and i don't know the preconditions for things or other niches
high island
Luck.
manic vine
I need help here
3 chaos boons and they all might be the best for my run
I have the fists and Demeter's Laser Cast with chill. do I go Abyssal Shot, Slippery Strike or Slippery Ambush?
latent moon
what does abyssal do again, more trap damage?
manic vine
yep.
latent moon
take that