#h1-discussion

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vital spade
raw herald
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skill issue

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True

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I get 2 sacked 100% of the time

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What are your goals

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I think you can stick to 32 all weaps unmodded

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Modded will 100% help your speed and is amazing practice

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Going back to unmodded after practicing in modded was so good, I got a sub 7 in less than 30 attempts after failing to do so before modded for ages

bronze forge
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first time i was able to buy everything

rustic vale
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It’ll never be in the first chamber you enter, and then has 2nd chamber has highest %(like 52%) down to 5 sack with like 2% or 3%

vital spade
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Kinda odd considering u can just go and do more floors if you want

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You would think being the final zone it’d have a higher chance to do as many floors as the previous zones

latent moon
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well minimum is like about 8 encounters technically, which is roughly the same as elysium

bronze forge
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the set up for styx comes into play when you have time limit heat

tall trench
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The number of encounters depends on which keepsake you ask 🙃

rustic vale
vital spade
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Styx is weirdly designed honestly

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I don’t get the rationale on the pointless rooms

rustic vale
latent moon
vital spade
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🤷‍♂️

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Feels kinda like an afterthought most the time

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Like coming from elysium it kinda feels ur already done besides the final boss

vital spade
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I’ve only gotten it once and up to 19 heat

tall trench
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Well, that's okay, it's just the first boon, I'm sure if I wait I'll get the attack boon I want soon enough
Elysium is a long floor, surely I'll get it before the Styx

tall trench
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I might as well just to level it some at this point

rustic vale
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Imagine not having every keepsake maxed bouldy

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Completionism is based

latent moon
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imagine not downloading a max save file from day 1 and getting a wr with it later on

tall trench
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Been one of those runs where you see the main god you want once
and never again sadcat

rustic vale
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F

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Bad rng moment

tall trench
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At least its just zag bow at 12 heat, it's gonna clear I just don't get the feel good big numbers

rustic vale
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zag bow my favourite

latent moon
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what's in the god pool lmao

tall trench
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I got arty, aphro, poseidon, and demeter

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If I see aphro or demmie attack at this point I'll take them

latent moon
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oh lmao rip 3/4 of them are good

tall trench
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was going for arty

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yeah

latent moon
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are your other cores filled

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special, cast, and dash?

tall trench
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Yeah, just I think Artemis like peaced out

latent moon
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lmao it do be like that sometimes

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at this point take tempest strike for the funny

tall trench
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You strike that out but I'm looking at conch keepsake right now

latent moon
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lmfao

tall trench
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Honestly I could just take aphro or demeter, probably aphro

latent moon
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are you going into styx rn?

tall trench
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I miss the good setup but like, it should work

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yeah

latent moon
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okay so

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what are the chances that you wont be offered 3/4 gods for the atk lmfao

tall trench
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Yeah good point

latent moon
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you have both hermes and hammers right

vital spade
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The voice acting style in this game is unique but kinda funny. The way they whisper everything aggressively makes them sound so edgy

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Meg especially

latent moon
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so doors could be heart, pom, coin, and 2 random ones i think?

tall trench
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Yeah, 2 hermes 2 hammers

I'll take poseidons attack if it's all that's there

latent moon
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yeah so no need in taking a god keepsake

tall trench
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Yeah you're right, I was just looking at the keepsakes when you brought up aquaman

vital spade
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What are some of the chaos boons that r really good? Usually he gives me kinda meh ones

latent moon
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depends on the build

latent moon
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for nonhestia rail, special % is good
for hestia, special and atk % are good

tall trench
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I like the one where you can't see previews for 5 rooms and then you get more gems and darkness JustRight

vital spade
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Sometimes I get like a +50% special or attack which is nice but like could’ve gotten that from a boon

wind field
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Do they pronounce Demeter incorrectly in the game or am I losing my mind

latent moon
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for beo, +cast and +cast % are good, atk % is a good cope pick

latent moon
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hey for atk that's at least rare

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for special it's probably on the lower end

rustic vale
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They said special

latent moon
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but you dont complain about the % you get from chaos, you complain if you dont get it to be fair

vital spade
latent moon
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chaos is like

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a free boon and boost

rustic vale
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chaos is like the best source of non-core boons

latent moon
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because it will stack on top of the boon you will eventually get

tall trench
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Yeah I almost never skip chaos and when I do it haunts me

strong ridge
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is it the same lernie every time or does zag call many hydras lernie

latent moon
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cringe

rustic vale
tall trench
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Styx chaos is the forbidden fruit sadcat

latent moon
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oh for high heat yeah that's valid

vital spade
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That one dude in Elysium who restores all your lives lol

latent moon
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me who went into em2 with a -hp per cast from chaos on beowulf

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hehehe

tall trench
strong ridge
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yea

rustic vale
latent moon
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i got patty last run and i lost 1 dd

vital spade
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The feeling when you absolutely f’ed up your run so horribly you have no death defiances and at 30 HP and then u get Patroclus and end up at Hades’ door with full health and defiances Skeletal

rustic vale
tall trench
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I got him this run, all DD full, like, it's nice jerky and all but dang man

latent moon
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60% more damage on a base 160 loaded dragon rush with 15% to crit residentzag

strong ridge
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after using sd for so long i think i would die by c6 tart if i tried dd

tall trench
strong ridge
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main menu sim

vital spade
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Whenever I get patroclus I can’t help but feel the entire run was like a waste of time lol. All that struggling and such just for the game to top me back up emoji_35 not complaining though

rustic vale
tall trench
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Then you whiff the Elysium champions and go into styx with one revive left
easy come easy go

latent moon
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cshot

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dragon rush gives +100% to the atk

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im pretty sure that's how that works

tall trench
vital spade
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Theseus is a pretty straightforward boss tho honestly. No real thing to worry if you just focus and play patient

latent moon
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just instaphase them tbh

vital spade
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What is instaphase? Also do you get the Meg attack thing by giving her lots of nectars?

tall trench
strong ridge
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i wonder what asterius got up to while thessus was still alive

latent moon
vital spade
latent moon
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and yeah you get battie by maxing her bond

rustic vale
latent moon
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you can

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for lernie she instaphases that

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for heroes and dad she cant

vital spade
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Does the battie replace ur god call?

latent moon
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no

vital spade
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That’s op

latent moon
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it's a completely separate thing

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well it's alright

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5 charges per run, can only use once per room

vital spade
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But still an insane amount of raw damage to add if u don’t have any of those additional powers

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Are there better ones you get from the house members?

rustic vale
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Battie is the best

vital spade
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Or is that like just a one off thing with only Meg

latent moon
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you can get 6

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meg deals the least amount of damage but she's the fastest and most consistent

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well

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she doesnt deal the least

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but in regards for the ones you would use for raw damage

vital spade
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Is there a chef one?

latent moon
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no

vital spade
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Sad

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Literally unplayable

tall trench
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I would take a supportive shade companion that just watches you clear the room

rustic vale
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Than, meg, sisyphus, dusa, skelly, patty+achilles

vital spade
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There’s a dusa one?

rustic vale
vital spade
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I know I was saying in excitement of your message silly

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I have 18 ambrosia idk what to do with them

rustic vale
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Give it to people

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Or trade it or buy contracts with it

tired karma
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merciful end is so satisfying

vital spade
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How do u gift them? Cuz only the nectars appear for the icon

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When u start a run with zag spear and the first item is hammer with exploding launcher sonic_shock POGFurret

rustic vale
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Complete their favour

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Then you can gift it

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Some people can be gifted more after that

vital spade
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Oh ok. So I have all the keepsakes but have barely given anyone any nectars beyond that. Who should I be giving my stuff to first

rustic vale
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Everyone

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Why aren’t you gifting dusa

vital spade
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To save until I know who will give me useful shiz in return

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Maybe I should go for meg first to get battie

rustic vale
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I told you who will give you stuff

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Now gift everyone

vital spade
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I know everyone gives me stuff but some stuff is better than other stuff

rustic vale
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Just gift everyone though

vital spade
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I know. I’m asking who would be good to focus on first

rustic vale
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unless you have like 0 nectar somehow when you haven’t been gifting

rustic vale
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And everyone else

vital spade
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Otay

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I’m at +80% movement speed rn and it’s funny seeing zag have the zoomies

raw herald
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It’ll be more than +80% movement

vital spade
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Is rare crop worth it

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Does that mean my boons will eventually be legendary bouldy

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I’m at beginning of Elysium

tall trench
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They only go up to heroic

sonic fulcrum
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legendary is another type of boon, heroic is the upgraded rarity

tall trench
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Whichever boons get randomly selected when you pick it, and they increase per X encounters I don't remember but the boon should say

vital spade
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Every 3. It activated on my +special damage boon

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So I guess eventually it’s gonna be bangin

tall trench
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I picked up poseidon attack for this botched zag bow run, it's funny, I think it would be lol with more poseidon boons but rn I'm basically just chasing enemies down for repeat strikes

latent moon
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this is why tempest strike is terrible lmao

tall trench
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lol well it was a good time to experiment

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I did get sweet nectar out of it

vital spade
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Omg lmao I have +80% movement and hyper sprint 💀

tall trench
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there's no more poms in the game but
it's still shiny

vital spade
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Lmao with just one dash I travel from the entire opposite wall of the Theseus boss room

tall trench
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I thought movement speed didn't affect dashing?

rustic vale
vital spade
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Dotp?

rustic vale
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Movespeed is multiplicative

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You wouldn’t be able to hit +80%

vital spade
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Oh idk. I thought it added +% bonuses together

rustic vale
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Movespeed is different

vital spade
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Either way one dash is sending me from one wall to the other in theseus’s room

rustic vale
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So all the boosts multiply together

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Which is why rush delivery can reach stupid levels of broken

latent moon
tall trench
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That's interesting, you'll cover more ground with a dstrike?

vital spade
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This is turning out to be a super busted build with crazy mobility and explosive launcher lol

wind field
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what's a good first successful escape attempt

tall trench
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One where you get out for sure

rustic vale
vital spade
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Aaand I just got charged skewer 💀

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Ok this build is cranked

latent moon
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what i said is like

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the damage you get from movement speed will translate to more dstrike damage

tall trench
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oh I misread

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Yeah

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That makes sense

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I actually had hyper sprint + rush delivery on my last run with fists

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was really nice

vital spade
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Idk why my dash is sending me so far

latent moon
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i finally got rd on a beo run after a long time and it was so nice

vital spade
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He turns into the flash and zips to the other side of the map

latent moon
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couldn't instaphase bull tho unfortunately

latent moon
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because of hyper sprint

vital spade
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So it’s more just more speed = hyper = more distance

latent moon
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yeah

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you're just getting launched for the fraction of a second after the dash because of hyper sprint

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because 100% kinda a lot lmao

vital spade
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I wish I had turned on extreme measures cuz I might’ve won with this build emoji_35

latent moon
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i just looked at my sub7 run and i had hyper sprint with 2 ichors lmao

strong ridge
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icor gamein

vital spade
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I have 2 ichors rn, hyper sprint and greater haste

strong ridge
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winin

vital spade
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Also Zag spear with exploding launcher and charged skewer

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And heroic frost flourish

latent moon
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Where rd

vital spade
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Just got to haydeez

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With 214+% special damage shadeohboy

rustic vale
vital spade
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Didn’t lose a death defiance

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It would’ve been sad if I did

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Is getting +232% special rare

latent moon
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Doesn't happen often

rustic vale
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That’s like a aphro special or a shackle + a chaos boon or 2

high jetty
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im new to the game are there any tips for beginners?

rustic vale
latent moon
high jetty
tall trench
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149 obols is such a sad amount of obols to have for the tartarus pre-boss shop

vital spade
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What lvl of heat completion is officially considered good at the game

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How long does it take to do 64 heat lol

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That just sounds cray

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I mean total game time

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I’m at 20 heat with 26 hours

raw herald
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“Good the game” isn’t a very good metric imo

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Focus on improving yourself, not comparing to other people

arctic flax
raw herald
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Well

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You need to unlock RI and EM, and you need to be on hellmode

arctic flax
raw herald
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Lmao how has a bot thumbs upped that message

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Hmm

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Something ain’t right…

arctic flax
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return of the king

raw herald
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React 👍 if you’re a sentient bot

arctic flax
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dont 👍 this to pass the turing test

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smh time to execute

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at least theyre accepting

raw herald
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Ban @strange hare for reaction spam smh

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oo

gray apex
vital spade
latent moon
brisk trail
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GUYS!! I BEAT HADES FOR THE FIRST TIME

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YAYYYYYY

latent moon
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Gamer

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Now do it again

brisk trail
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Yes

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Im gonna make tahantos my boyfriend finally

icy knoll
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but they usee the speedrunning modpack+first boon epic mod which ease rng a bit (no instant reset points)

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found the vid

primal merlin
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Is there anywhere with graphs to show boons power progression in relation to their levels and rarity?

latent moon
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There's a discord bot

toxic trellis
latent moon
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Or 200

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Get a sub10

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50 heat

carmine wraith
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What happens when TD timer runs out?

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Does the game just get super hard

vital spade
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Basically, u gon die son

carmine wraith
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oh

tall trench
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I felt lucky to get 3 chaos gates in elysium
until the third one dropped me into armored asterius fight with -45% movement speed, +39% damage taken, and unable to use my attack

carmine wraith
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Apparently not because I saw someone do a 0 time left run

vital spade
carmine wraith
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Where they didn't start playing until the timer reached 0 lol

vital spade
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That seems impossible

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You’d die in like 5 seconds

carmine wraith
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Someone said someone did so it must be true

vital spade
sonic fulcrum
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people can say a lot of thing, that doesn't always make them true

carmine wraith
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Oh duh just use SD

tall trench
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I beat asterius, but I still have -45% movement speed and can't use my attack

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but

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the gold is in charon's shop

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waiting to be stolen

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I've never not stolen it before

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I keep trying to convince myself that I can beat Charon with the beo shield special instead

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its like elysium midway

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I don't need it... I don't need it.

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we're down to one death defiance, and I have more gold than I will need for the styx, but it was done.

latent moon
fervent jewel
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i wnt out with the ares keepsake but poseidon showed up to give me a boon to fish better and left instead

sonic fulcrum
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getting this boon for the first time is a special event that happen regardless or your keepsake

fervent jewel
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i know but it was funny

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very in character for poseidon to sort of shove himself to give his nephew something and leaving

trail obsidian
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I really regret not getting around to trying the Series X version when it was on Game Pass. Playing portably on Switch rules, but I wish got to see the 4K visuals. I’ll probably just buy it for Xbox at some point

vital spade
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Just get a 4k monitor?

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Resolution isn’t even as important as pixels per inch

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As opposed to figuratively

brisk trail
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hades when i show up with maxed out chaos shield for the 30th time today

vital spade
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Hades when you

old dawn
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this

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im on a laptop and a crappy one since its all i can afford

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12fps gaming ez

twilit zenith
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Hey sorry for butting in, but I saw that there's something called the Hades monthly challenge, what is it?

sonic fulcrum
fervent jewel
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damn i died to hades after a streak of good runs 😔

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these guys in elysium were really annoying and I think my build was kinda heh

trail obsidian
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Yeah I just have a laptop with bad specs, I play on Switch and Xbox

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But I’ll probably try to get a better one soon

latent moon
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Gamer

brisk trail
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I say sell deadly strike on Achilles.

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Achilles is a castspec and you'll pick up another attack boon soon because it's a high priority boon type

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Yeah but that's also the case if you drop call, and I KNOW you aren't dropping rare greatest reflex

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So you don't have a choice. Unless you want to roll.

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Also there are imo more attacks that "work" on achilles than calls that will benefit you greatly, especially calls that benefit you more than zeus, so that's also why I say attack over call. But IDK if you should roll. I probably would but that's just me, I also feel like I use dice too much

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And it's not like on this heat you can give up acorn for dadcall

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yeah xD that's pretty much the mood. You won't have 'em when you need 'em, you will when you don't. I wish I could figure out some kind of deterministic method for it but there's just too much RNG unless you're really confident about targeting specific things, even then you're still at mercy shrug

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Yeah, and you don't have to give up either duo, which are more rare in the long run (unless you super don't care about one of those duos)

rustic vale
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R O D carries wdym

brisk trail
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Then that's one possible better option if you reroll. But it's only one, really. Your cast is good and level 5 and achilles is a castspect, so you won't be selling that. Life affirmation is very valuable in the long run, rare greatest reflex is among the best boons in the game, and then the other duo you won't want to give up. I guess Last Stand could be another better option, since you've already benefitted from the DD part which is the main part

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But honestly, with only 2 possible options you'd rather purge (Lightning Rod, Last Stand), maybe you shouldn't reroll, since your choice could be more perilous later on (since there's a less than 50% chance of you getting either option you'd rather purge in the reroll, I'm pretty sure)

brisk trail
# rustic vale You can’t purge last stand

Oh you can't? Then there's literally only one @brisk trail would rather purge and it's lightning rod. So maybe just purge the attack, since the chances of getting lightning rod in the pool on reroll is not super high

rustic vale
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Plus you’re uber likely to find a zeus core off next attack right

brisk trail
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Yea, rare greatest reflex does help mitigate the bad part about that hammer, so it seems good. I can't say I've ever found myself in that situation though so I'll defer to shackle for sure on this

rustic vale
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Because dash range down is shadegrief

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Yes because it’s patty

brisk trail
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Yeah, premium styx would make just about all of elysium pretty easy (or at least, a lot more forgiving)

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aphro attack? gud for sure.

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Miniboss could be EM3 Bull eyeshake are you sure

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Oh then it probably won't be so bad

rustic vale
brisk trail
toxic trellis
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That’s the neat part, you don’t

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Agreed

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Hate that spinning attack

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And it lasts for so long

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What I meant to say is, if you don’t have a good cast or range weapon, you can’t really do anything

brisk trail
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lol

crisp summit
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What's the point of playing Hades after you get the epilogue?

brisk trail
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also get Unseen One, try to get a heat WR, or a speedrun WR. Or even just PBs, those are nice.

brisk trail
crisp summit
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..I guess. Maybe I just need a break from the game.

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Used to obsessed with it when everything was progressing so fast but I've exhausted dialog and stuff and am just getting bored

brisk trail
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rip

high island
crisp summit
thorny mirage
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dub

bronze forge
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how do i get defiance from chaos

thorny mirage
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For better chances turn on god’s legacy

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does that effect chaos?

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maybe idk

thorny mirage
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md

bronze forge
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What’s gods legacy

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Is it a mirror thing

raw herald
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Yes

rustic vale
bronze forge
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damn

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i may start running chaos' keepsake until i get it

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get the thing from the well

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reroll

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anything im missing?

rustic vale
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Refreshing nectar from eury

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iirc

rustic vale
bronze forge
topaz cosmos
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Third boon, Merciful End, let's gooooo!

plucky sierra
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is this the channel to come to if i have game questions

rustic vale
plucky sierra
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For some reason im not getting the conversation trigger for hidden aspects on my bow or shield

rustic vale
plucky sierra
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yes to the first and last

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5 in every weapon?

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or just the one im using

rustic vale
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5 for the weapon you want

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I should’ve specified my bad

plucky sierra
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i have level 1 of the first 3 aspects which should be 5

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ive got guan yu and arthur currently

rustic vale
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then the issue is Hades having rng dialogue

plucky sierra
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damn

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if i use artemis boon and keep relogging will i get the dialogue or do i just gotta keep going till it happens

rustic vale
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Keep going till it happens

plucky sierra
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alr thx

bronze forge
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give her nectar

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it wont do anything in this case, but it will make you feel better about yourself

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and thats the most important thing

plucky sierra
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saving my nectar for the 15 other people i need to keep giving nectar for funny dialogue

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all the interconnected relationships 😩

bronze forge
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lots of love triangles bout to shape and shake

rustic vale
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Just give everyone nectar bouldy dusa

terse geyser
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especially Artemis

vital spade
topaz cosmos
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Can Doom crit?

latent moon
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Yes

topaz cosmos
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Thought so. Nice to know PP didn't totally go to waste

plucky sierra
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if you've already had dialogue with someone in a round are you unable to get another convo

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cause artemis responded a couple times and still hasn't mentioned my bow yet

nocturne elbow
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Finally beat the final boss for the first time!!

vital spade
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How many attempts did it take

plucky sierra
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so im just unlucky

rustic vale
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You have gotten the first phrase via using the bow and having her comment on your use of it right

plucky sierra
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i believe so

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shield upgraded 😎

rustic vale
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Nearly the same amount as zeus aid as well

snow skiff
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nice HS:RD ratio

upper yew
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What weapon should I use early on

mighty hornet
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do you get iframes during achilles's rush?

rustic vale
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Given it’s your heat and time record I would agree

rustic vale
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All my splits are bad

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Idk how tf I sub10ed with zag bow the one time

vital spade
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bouldy🆚dusaHeart who wins

rustic vale
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I think my tarts and ely splits are horrid

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And my asphodel ones as well

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And my styx ones too

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Bouldy superior to Divine Dash as well

raw herald
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No cshot tho

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And gods pride shadegrief

rustic vale
raw herald
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No pride = no pride

rustic vale
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Rupert Martholomew Acinty

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Go to bed

raw herald
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I went to bed

wispy hound
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Got the game yesterday and today I almost beat hades

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I hope this is the average pace because otherwise I'm screwed

rustic vale
wispy hound
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Let's put it this way, is my progress slower than the average?

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Because all things considered the game is damn hard

#

And if im falling behind this early that's not a good sign

rustic vale
#

It’s definitely faster then mine was

#

But I think mine was on the slower end

rustic vale
wispy hound
#

I mean keep in mind I have been practicing playing hades nonstop ever since I got it

wispy hound
rustic vale
#

total?

wispy hound
#

Because hypnos recently said I died 5 times already

rustic vale
#

pretty fast then

wispy hound
#

But I swear to god theseus is going to make me want to stop playing

rustic vale
#

Tbh I got my first escape on run 50
I was kind of a pleb at every videogame I played back then though tbf

#

But 6-7 runs and at Hades is definitely fast

wispy hound
#

Well luckily I already got my weapon of choice

wispy hound
rustic vale
#

Fast fast then

wispy hound
#

I'm sure I can beat him with skelly's keepsake in my next good run

rustic vale
#

Oh yeah skelly’s keepsake is a thing that exists

#

I know right

#

I swear it’s everyone new

#

I feel like I was such a pleb back then then

wispy hound
#

Hold on I still haven't beaten the game

rustic vale
wispy hound
rustic vale
#

I took 50
I was really bad at every video game I played back then though

wispy hound
#

Remember the three golden phrases

Mankind is dead
Hell is full
Blood is fuel

#

Oh I absolutely adore the spear

rustic vale
#

I should probably try to get spear 32 heat

wispy hound
#

Amazing moveset for a coward like me

rustic vale
#

I tried with guan-yu and it didn’t exactly go well

rustic vale
wispy hound
#

Does something happen after the 10 tries threshold?

rustic vale
#

Not tries

#

Escapes

wispy hound
#

I see

rustic vale
#

that’s the “main story”

#

Escapes is you actually killing Hades btw

rustic vale
#

I avoid Hades for new players because I can’t trust myself to not give story spoilers

wicked swan
#

hello

round canopy
#

How do u do skelly achievements

latent moon
#

just match the heat levels

timber tapir
#

what do the themes you buy from the house contractor do?

carmine quiver
#

does the demeter boon that buffs damage when you have no cast synergize with beowulf shield?

#

or any weapon that loads cast

latent moon
latent moon
#

so both hera and beo

#

if the number says 0/x then the boost will be active

violet oriole
#

MORNINT

celest cave
#

Hrm.

#

I seem to be lacking one trinket.

#

But I don't know from who.

sonic fulcrum
#

some keepsakes unlock pretty late, that's probably normal

violet oriole
#

I am so mad

#

I don’t have hades on steam

tall trench
#

Okay okay but Hades doesn't know who Gilgamesh is and he was a king in the past shadegrief

violet oriole
#

Hey

celest cave
#

I mean... The last one.

#

You know?

#

I don't know who to give it to.

timid valley
celest cave
#

Made my first full escape yesterday.

tall trench
#

Probably Persephones?

frank cliff
#

What's everyone's favourite aspect on any weapon, mine atm is Hera

tall trench
#

There's so many good ones, probably Hestia though if had to pick one. Hera is fun though

timid valley
celest cave
#

. . .Wait.

#

Prolly it's Persephone, really.

#

I went in a full headscratcher mood yesterday because there was ONE NPC missing on the list.

#

Now I'm like "Seriously, I'll have to go after her AGAIN to get the keepsake?"

violet oriole
#

Idk if it’s me or I haven’t gotten hades

tall trench
#

What do you mean?

tall trench
#

lol

violet oriole
#

@tall trench someone promised me to gift me Hades on steam

#

When the discount came

#

And I don’t think she has given it to me

#

So I’m frustrated

#

You know what I mean

tall trench
#

Ping them in a righteous fury, I suppose

violet oriole
#

I can’t

sonic fulcrum
violet oriole
#

I don't think the person gifted me

#

So i am agitated

sonic fulcrum
#

you should see this with the person in question, not with us. we can't really do anything about it

violet oriole
#

I know

#

bit is this even reportable to staff

#

I doubt it

#

I don't know

#

Is this reportable

sonic fulcrum
#

not to SGG staff at least.

violet oriole
#

I don't mean to SGG

#

I mean regular staff

#

I'll talk to them

#

If they are online

west jetty
#

I KILLED HADE

#

WHAT

violet oriole
#

congrats

#

I don't know if any staff is online

sonic fulcrum
#

you mean that discord server staff ?

violet oriole
#

yes

sonic fulcrum
#

they aren't really the ones that can help with your problem; they are either SGG employees, or moderator.

violet oriole
#

Damn it

#

I don't know if someone who offered to gift me hades and ghosted me is a reason to report

sonic fulcrum
#

your problem imply the one that promise you to gift the key, maybe steam if there was a problem with the key

violet oriole
#

No

#

She wanted to wait until the discount

#

and now it's gone

#

I don't know if she bought it

#

I AM ACTUALLY MAD

#

DO YOU GET WHY

sonic fulcrum
#

we can't do anything about that, you just have to talk to her

violet oriole
#

SHES OFFLINE

#

SHE GHOSTED ME

#

CANT YOU SEE THAT

sonic fulcrum
#

getting mad here won't bring you anything

violet oriole
#

I have been waiting to play Hades on my Macbook Pro

#

And i have 0 chancew

#

0!!!!!!!!

bitter snow
#

guys i have to choose between hermes and a hammer 😭

violet oriole
#

well I can't help you with that

tall trench
#

I pick hammer but not sure if thats the best move

violet oriole
#

I am pissed off

#

GOD DAMN IT

bitter snow
#

also maybe you could just buy it, instead of getting angry in here bc nobody can help you with the person who ghosted u

sonic fulcrum
bitter snow
#

not really a reason to report them either

violet oriole
#

WHAT DO YOU EXPECT ME TO DO

#

IVE BEEN PAITENT

#

I have waited so long

#

Forget it it's no use arguing with you

tall trench
frosty lodge
#

Ha, impactful

tall trench
#

oh lmao

bitter snow
#

hammer it is ty guys

tall trench
#

In before bad hammer roll

frosty lodge
#

Hammer is my qbsolute favorite type of upgrade, it's almost always better than boons imo

bitter snow
#

usually yes

#

that one was in fact, a bad hammer roll

frosty lodge
#

yikes. What did you get?

tall trench
#

Yeah, I think the rules for spawns are similar. Hermes can be offered until you have 2, and hammer can be offered until you have 2. Not 100% on that. I think the only way to get 3 of either is styx?

sonic fulcrum
#

hammers are really strong, the only thing i have against them is that i like cast build too much, and that doesn't use hammer a lot.

tall trench
#

I think you're guaranteed 2 hammer offers but not guaranteed to get other chances if you turn either down

celest cave
#

I have electric homing burst.

#

Is that good?

#

And yes, I'm with the crossbow.(?)

sonic fulcrum
tall trench
#

Hmm yeah good to know, always iffy to leave a hammer to RNG, I'd at least always take 2nd offer if its post-asphodel unless you need something really specific that's competing with the offer

tall trench
frosty lodge
#

I had great hammer luck recently. Pierce Shot + Bull Rush

#

My Bull Rush shots did like 500 damage lol

celest cave
#

Rail, yeah.

#

Might I add

#

It made quite short work of Theseus.

violet oriole
#

I need to talk to someone

#

Now

frosty lodge
#

Uh. What's up?

violet oriole
#

I mean a staff member

#

of the discord

frosty lodge
#

oh. Yeah, nah. They can't help you.

violet oriole
#

well of course they can't

#

they work for SGG

frosty lodge
#

The being ghosted thing, right?

violet oriole
#

Yea

#

Someone offered to gift me hades on steam

#

and I waited

#

and she never got it

#

It's not in my notifications on steam

frosty lodge
#

It's a promise involving you and another person. They are not involved at all. You don't go to a Restaurant and demand food because your friend promised to get you some, right?

violet oriole
#

You do realized that I have waited for a discount

#

50% of for Hades

#

on steam

#

and that offer expired on January

frosty lodge
#

Yes.

violet oriole
#

SO it's back to it's regular price

#

I am at my wits end

frosty lodge
#

I'm sorry to hear, but this really is between you and your friend.

violet oriole
#

She isn't responding to me

#

that's the problem

celest cave
#

I'm guessing something else happened.

violet oriole
#

I don't know that

celest cave
#

A twist, if I dare to say. Things like that happen.

frosty lodge
#

Yeah. There's always next sale.

celest cave
#

For example, a friend of ours at my contact circle

violet oriole
#

IT'S BEEN 6 DAYS

#

You do realize that

celest cave
#

Suddenly disappeared

#

For WEEKS.

violet oriole
#

Last time she spoke was on january 1st

#

SO I am waiting now stil

#

trying to be paitent

frosty lodge
#

I'd be more worried about THAT than you not getting the game lol

celest cave
#

We found out he had a grave variant of Dengue, but he's back now.

#

We got in touch yesterday, which means he's fine.

frosty lodge
#

I mean, they were so gracious to offer, yet all that matters to you is the gift. I for one would rescind the offer if I knew you'd care more about the key than the very real person behind the username.

celest cave
#

So bottom line is, be patient, something else must have happened. And if it makes you feel better, the way I got Hades is similar to your predicament - A friend told me they'd gift me something from my wishlist, then disappeared for almost a week after their pinned day.

#

Yet we talked and everything got sorted out before the gift even arrived. I was more preoccupied about the person in itself.

frosty lodge
#

Life can get busy, it can happen. Chin up, the game won't run away.

celest cave
#

Yep

frosty lodge
#

I believe there's a spring sale, so it won't even be 6 months.

violet oriole
#

Do not tell me

#

I gotta wait 6 months

frosty lodge
#

No, I said the opposite...

celest cave
#

Less than that, dude. Less than that. Believe us.

#

FAR less than that, if we're talking Steam.

violet oriole
#

I want a chance to play Hades

#

that time will never come

celest cave
#

Be patient, please.

#

This kind of phrase is you imposing that to yourself.

frosty lodge
#

You're being a little overdramatic. If you really want it, save a dollar a day and buy it in a month.

#

... if possible, of course.

violet oriole
#

Please leave me alone

tall trench
#

Does swift strike affect bull rush charge time?

frosty lodge
#

I... think it could? But I'm not sure. It does count as an attack for all other intents and purposes

tall trench
#

I don't think it does, unfortunately, took the +30% but I don't notice any difference

frosty lodge
#

:/ Sorry to hear.

tall trench
#

It's no biggie, it's 12 heat beo shield so its pretty much free lol, figured it would be a good chance to test it

frosty lodge
#

Beo?

tall trench
#

Beowulf shield aspect, it just destroys with poseidon and if you can get mirage shot it's stupid good

frosty lodge
#

I am a bit of a rookie :D

tall trench
#

oh no worries, its hidden shield aspect

frosty lodge
#

Ahh, interesting

#

Are all hidden aspects of non-greek origin?

raw herald
#

Yes

frosty lodge
#

Fascinating!

#

What's the railgun's?

raw herald
#

Lucifer

frosty lodge
#

Cool, cool

#

What does Beo do?

raw herald
#

It’s like hera bow

#

Load your casts into your bull rush

#

Except your casts have massive aoe

frosty lodge
#

Oooh!

#

Pray tell, how does one... gain such awe-inspiring power?

raw herald
#

I think the requirements might be pinned in the story channel

tall trench
#

I'm not really sure I just sorta keep killing my dad until people give me stuff

frosty lodge
#

Got it, thanks!

frosty lodge
high island
#

Won't affect Dash-Attacks.

celest cave
#

I managed to do it again

#

In Heat 1, but YEAH BOI, Thunder rail rules!

tall trench
tall trench
celest cave
#

And sorry but

#

How I read the contract that appeared in the exit:

#

"Congratulations! Now Hades finds you out to be a true nuisance."

#

xD

#

Me, after reading:

#

"Yeah, I said he looked like Santa when I got the game as a gift."

short magnet
#

Is hades going to be free for some time after the release of hades II

barren cedar
#

doing a run rn, should i get ares call?

raw herald
#

No

barren cedar
#

k

tired karma
#

demeter call is better

#

would u drop college/job to become a hades streamer

barren cedar
#

nope

#

if i really wanted to stream id do it part time

#

just got Poseidon's call

barren cedar
vital spade
#

Dominatrix vibes

gritty roost
#

finally cleared 16 heat, felt kinda.. unsatisfying

#

mainly because my build was a jumbled mess lol

vital spade
#

Why 16? Seems such a random number

gritty roost
#

for skelly

vital spade
#

He does something different at 16?

gritty roost
#

nah, just to unlock his challenge statues, not sure if there's a questline after that

sonic fulcrum
#

some sculpture he unlocks at 8/16/32 heat, and some achivement

vital spade
#

Huh I just beat 20 heat but didn’t notice this

#

Maybe I didn’t talk to him enough

gritty roost
#

check near the gate

#

lower left side of the weapons room

high island
#

That's not how that works either lol.

#

You stream on the side first, and if you're lucky and find some success and it pays enough for a decent amount of time, then maybe you get to a point where you can get away with only a part-time job or something.

wicked swan
#

I still have a grudge against skelly

high island
#

But that's never gonna happen as purely a Hades streamer.

wicked swan
#

Mf made me waste 5 blood

#

Smh

high island
#

Zag Sword is the best sword for Zag Sword runs.

#

So there's that.

finite frost
#

Zag sword is the best weapon in the game, SSS tier, 6 min clear guaranteed

tall trench
#

It's true I took it and came back after a few minutes and the game was just finished

visual sand
#

it’s that extra move speed 😮‍💨

high island
#

Zag Sword is BiS for the Legend of Persephone challenge.

vital spade
#

How do you do bounties above 20?

#

It just says limit reached

wild dagger
#

heyo

#

is there something like r2modloader or vortex for hades or do i have to go do shenanigans to make them work ?

mint coral
#

Hell mode has till 25 but thats because you start at 5 heat

#

So its the same

finite frost
vital spade
#

Oh so u don’t get more bounties but u can increase the heat anyway

#

Got it

gray apex
finite frost
#

8 residentzag
16 dusa
32 residentzag

vital spade
#

Ya mum

raw herald
#

128

vital spade
#

How do high lvl players do so much damage even early in a run

raw herald
#

good boons

vital spade
#

I feel my dps is so low cuz I’m not leveling up something I should be

raw herald
#

what gameplay are you referring to

vital spade
#

Like I’m on heat 32 doing tight deadline and my dps isn’t even fast enough

#

Like haelian n such

raw herald
#

just good boons/hammers/combat ig

vital spade
#

I hate the barge of death cuz my dps is always so low there and the crystal alwausbhas so much life

raw herald
#

barge sucks

vital spade
#

I has none yet

gray apex
#

Why would you

#

Waste of Meg

#

Just blast them

raw herald
#

witches are my favourite

raw herald
#

i can hit the 4 witch with dc1 almost every time now on beo

#

it feels so good

gray apex
#

Just dash to the isle the same side as the entrance and that's it

finite frost
gray apex
#

Even if you miss they're groupedup

finite frost
#

mayb u put too much health on em lol

vital spade
#

High heat be like “use fountain to restore 0% health ☺️☺️☺️☺️”

raw herald
#

styx mm miniboss is more dangerous than barge at high heat

#

imo

finite frost
vital spade
#

Spear sucks without exploding launcher

raw herald
finite frost
#

Try using Hestia for your first clear, should be easy enough

vital spade
finite frost
#

shoot once reload repeat

raw herald
vital spade
#

Eh

#

Maybee

#

Guan doodoo

raw herald
#

just did sorry

vital spade
finite frost
#

chill, its low mid

raw herald
#

guan yu shreds

#

its a very solid ME aspect

#

special carries tartarus with divine flourish

#

and ME beats late

high island
vital spade
raw herald
#

i dont

#

i reset for pace

high island
#

Sometimes build pace is good early and then just falls off and your scaling is terrible past Asphodel. Sometimes it's painful early and things pick up like after Asphodel mid-boss or after Lernie or something like that.

raw herald
#

ive had so many unmodded pbs where i dont get mirage till late ely

finite frost
#

Tbh Ely can be a nightmare depending on the rooms you get lol

wild dagger
#

if i have the aspect that ||lets me throw more shields with the special|| and i take the hammer that makes the shields ricochet 4 times will all shields do it or just the main one ?

high island
#

Don't need to spoiler-tag anything in this channel. Only channel that requires spoiler tags is #h1-for-new-players, and only for end boss and anything onward. So not for Chaos Shield.

#

And no, just the main shield.

wild dagger
#

oh sadge

#

tought it would be funny

#

already took it so guess i\ll have to live with it

vital spade
#

Is it good to go from 20 heat to 32 heat and beat 32 on my first try

wild dagger
#

yes

#

very good

vital spade
#

I feel accomplished

wild dagger
#

now do maxshadeohboy

vital spade
#

I don’t even have battie yet

wild dagger
#

just do it

#

trust me

vital spade
#

I don’t hate myself that much

#

Finna die in tartarus

vital spade
#

Cuz ur underpowered

#

Why is Meg never in the house anymore

#

I’m trying to give her poms rcon_pepehammsuperinteresting

#

i c

tired karma
#

hades has 4.9k views on twitch now, nice

pulsar hemlock
#

Does cursed slash (daedalus hammer) work with dash-strike?

rustic vale
#

No

#

It wouldn’t be nearly as bad if it did

pulsar hemlock
#

What is this BS. +20% chance for rare or better, +20% chance for epic. And all I get are commons .-.

rustic vale
#

Running olympian favour is your issue
Switch to dark foresight

pulsar hemlock
#

I am using dark foresight, though

#

It's Gods' pride

rustic vale
#

+20% rare chance from where?

#

Oh chaos nvrmind

pulsar hemlock
#

No, keepsake.

#

Also, dark foresight has no say in terms of quality 🤷

rustic vale
#

Olympian favour is just the worse choice

high island
#

Dark Foresight is broken in all the good ways.

rustic vale
#

Dark Foresight tilts game odds in your favour so much compared to olympians favour it’s not really a question

pulsar hemlock
#

I'm still using it...

rustic vale
#

I saw

#

I just say things quick before thinking about things too much

high island
rustic vale
#

I didn’t meaning thinking too much

#

I was talking about the frequency of my not thinking

#

Too often I say things quickly without thinking

high island
#

I didn't say you meant thinking too much.

rustic vale
#

Then I misunderstood what you were saying

wild dagger
#

if i take the auto reload but i use the red thing that charges after 3 seconds instead of getting stuck in enemies

#

will the charge time go lower ?

rustic vale
#

Can’t get autoreload with stygian soul

wild dagger
#

idk i just got it

rustic vale
#

Wait not

gray apex
#

You can

high island
rustic vale
#

I confused quick reload and autoreload

gray apex
#

It'll just make the charge lower yea

rustic vale
wild dagger
#

fr ? will it just let me throw the thing every.25 seconds ?

#

isnt that too op ?

gray apex
#

But it has nothing to do with whether casts get stuck in enemies or not

high island
#

Nyaanyaa Mewmew — Today at 7:06 PM
Frost Ripper not getting corrected by me challenge:

#

GGs.

rustic vale
#

I really, really need to think about these things harder

brisk trail
gray apex
#

Instead of 3s

high island
#

Spread Fire on Zag Rail is pretty good.

wild dagger
#

im at max with it and is 3 seconds if i take this it lowers it to 0,25 seconds

rustic vale
wild dagger
#

oooh

#

shiz

high island
#

lol

wild dagger
#

damn

rustic vale
#

Finally
I didn’t say something wrong

high island
#

Yet.

wild dagger
#

was actually dreaming lmao

high island
#

Well.

#

Boons don't "tell" you anything.

rustic vale
high island
#

TKO.

rustic vale
#

yesterday Bronze skin told me I was it’s best friend

#

Then I purged it for UC

brisk trail
#

is there any way to make zag sword not a pain to use

rustic vale
#

Dash strike

high island
#

Do a Cast build, ignore the aspect.

latent moon
#

Don't use sword

rustic vale
#

You don’t have to ignore the aspect if you hypersprint -> rush delivery shadesmile

latent moon
#

Fds my beloved

brisk trail
#

im addicted to chaos shield help me

wild dagger
#

shield is cool

rustic vale
rustic vale
#

In terms of how relevant it’s gimmick is, chaos shield is closest to aspectless of any shield

brisk trail
#

i just like shotgunning things with a plate

rustic vale
#

You could also be shotgunning things with a bow if you take triple shot, or shotgunning things with a shotgun via zagreus rail spread fire, or shotgunning things with a rocket launcher through clockets on rail

tall trench
#

when you reroll a boon to be offered the same 3 boons and rarities in a different order HypnosSticker

brisk trail
#

i mean bull rushing into a group of enemies give me a huge dopamine hit

#

and im not really a fan of zeus or beo so i just settled on chaos

#

Sometimes I feel like dusa

#

some times i feel like letting the intrusive thoughts win shadeohboy

#

anyways

#

chiron aspect, aprhodite attack, dionysus special, what we thinkin

rustic vale
#

Yes

#

Put all your poms on the special

#

Turn on priviledged status

#

Start with dionysus

brisk trail
#

i will be doing this

#

how many times do i need to upgrade chiron for it to start being busted tho

latent moon
#

It's decent at lvl 3

#

Usable at that point without relentless volley I think

brisk trail
#

ive been dumping all my titan blood into my other weapons so i guess its time to run more bounties

rustic vale
#

But yeah I wouldn’t use it till at least level 3

#

Would be pain

high island
#

At Lv.3 I'd just play Chiron like base bow lol.

#

Drunken Flourish build is alright though for that level.

timid valley
#

chiron is my favourite atm

brisk trail
#

id so be on controller rn if both of mine werent broke

rustic vale
round canopy
#

I’ve beaten heat 8 multiple times yet skelly isn’t giving me his prize

raw herald
#

look at the bottom of the room

high island
#

Head South in the courtyard, yeah.

#

Presumably South.

#

Compassless. squirtooh

brisk trail
#

this game hates me more than most people hate me

#

i just want dionysus special

finite frost
high island
#

You'd think those would be hugely important in the Underworld without any celestial objects for navigation.

finite frost
high island
#

But no.

#

No compasses.

brisk trail
finite frost
rustic vale
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Would magma in aspho throw off a compass

brisk trail
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APHRODITE SAID AMONG US shadeohboy

visual sand
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i got my first clear with chiron zagluv

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haven’t used it much since tho lmao

brisk trail
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i love the conversations hades and zag have in the middle of battle after you fix the family

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"i trust youre having a nice evening, boy?"
"why yes i am, father"

wild dagger
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how do i use the companion ?

finite frost
wild dagger
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once per map or once per room or ?

finite frost
latent moon
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Room but it has limited charges

finite frost
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up to 5 times per run

wild dagger
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i see

finite frost
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go into your keepsakes, find the summon on the bottom and upgrade it with Ambrosia

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for more charges

wild dagger
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so use it twice and keep it for bosses

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or dont use at all hope it'll be useful in the future

finite frost
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Meg is best, but you cant use her vs Hades until you gain daddies trust w nectar

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neither can Thanatos etc

wild dagger
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ill use it against meg to see what happens

finite frost
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Cant use Meg vs Meg, but you can use others vs her

latent moon
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Only ones you can use against dad at the start is Sisyphus and skelly

wild dagger
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btw

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how do can i get more meg hearts ?

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it shows an arrow

finite frost
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1 for miniboss in Tartarus, 1 for miniboss in Asphodel, 1 for Hydra, 1 for Hero fight, 1 for dad is usually how i do it\

finite frost
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turn on EM1 in pact