h1-discussion

[twilit lodge]

He’ll be forced again

Maybe not this biome if you keep ignoring him tho

[rustic vale]

I’ll take dio then

[twilit lodge]

Midshop exit is usually keepsake tho

[rustic vale]

hmm

So

Purple drunk strike flourish or trippy shot on luci I wanted dio call

[twilit lodge]

Strike

Supersoaker full of wine is fun

[rustic vale]

700 obols in asphodel oceans bounty is putting in work

[twilit lodge]

Bounty doesn’t increase obols

Treasure does

Well doesn’t increase but gives

Is ice wine even compatible with beo

What was I thinking this run

[vital tapir]

bounty increases obols

[signal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659820450297282585/1030588010837848064/unknown.png

[twilit lodge]

Huh

I guess I’m so used to reading eclipse

[signal aspen]

eclipse

[twilit lodge]

Oceans bounty was rarer on my darkness runs than eclipse somehow

[rustic vale]

[twilit lodge]

Shhh

[rustic vale]

I was going to react sooner but then got distracted

[rustic vale]

Yes

Why wouldn’t it be?

[twilit lodge]

Idk because lots of cast duos aren’t

My run kept offering me nothing but Poseidon so I didn’t even get many chances for ice wine anyway

[rustic vale]

Should’ve just got mirage shot

[twilit lodge]

Scintillating is fun tho

[rustic vale]

ice wine and scillanting feast don’t matter if they’re already dead

[twilit lodge]

I took Zeus as 4th god

[twilit lodge]

376 tooltip damage trippy flare tho

Scintillating was good to kill exalted souls

[rustic vale]

Could’ve been 1224 if you had just got mirage shot smh my head my head

[twilit lodge]

Could have been 1337

[rustic vale]

(376-140)*2+140=612
612*2=1224

Wait nvrmind flare scales differently than shot with rarity

[twilit lodge]

6122 = 1224

[rustic vale]

(378-168)*2+168= 584
584*2= 1168

[rustic vale]

should’ve hit mirage shot anyways

[twilit lodge]

Quit nerfing my damage cry

[twilit lodge]

Ackshually it was 376 🤓

[rustic vale]

Correcting my own calculation errors doesn’t mean I’m nerfing your damage

Mirage shot would’ve made scillanting practically irrelevant

[short glen]

Smh just get every boon

[twilit lodge]

Normal strike and jolted on eris

Selling jolted to afford ixion 🧠

[high island]

What are you trying to do that that's not enough?

[twilit lodge]

Not get wrecked

It’s not going well so far

[high island]

Like... high heat or something? Context.

[twilit lodge]

Just 17

[high island]

Ah.

[twilit lodge]

But Zeus strike eris isn’t going well for me

Only had Zeus in tart

[high island]

Well, that's all you need from Tartarus really.

[twilit lodge]

I have purple splash dash now so things are actually dying

[rustic vale]

Bruh

[high island]

Keeping Static Discharge and pomming that would have helped.

And pomming Lightning Strike a couple times.

[twilit lodge]

Seeing any Poms would have helped too

[strong ridge]

i love that one of zags special powers is that he throws a red rock

[rustic vale]

Hades can also throw rocks as well

So it’s probably genetic /s

[twilit lodge]

Hades taught him how to

[rustic vale]

I was going to say that but couldn’t remember for certain

[remote iris]

should i swap epic drunken strike for heroic frost strike (on Malphon)

[rustic vale]

Which aspect?

[twilit lodge]

Not unless you have heavy knuckle

[remote iris]

the magnet one

no heavy knuckle

[rustic vale]

I mean talos actually picks up heavy knuckle sometimes

[twilit lodge]

Then no

You’ll do more damage stacking hangover dot

[rustic vale]

No

[twilit lodge]

Than boosting your wimpy punches

[rustic vale]

Talos and zag can pick up heavy knuckle demeter doesn’t

Still no

[remote iris]

🍷to stick with drunken ❄️for frost and 🤓 to announce that you haven't taken a shower in years

[rustic vale]

[remote iris]

i need its hidden aspect

[twilit lodge]

Make sure you’re taking miniboss rooms in Elysium

That’s where you talk to asterius for the fists dialogue

Not in boss room

[remote iris]

i'm aware

[twilit lodge]

I’m unaware

Like bidoof

[native blade]

I'm curious, have you ever beaten a game with shackle and no special, attaack or cast boon?

[rustic vale]

Yes, atleast 24 times

[remote iris]

hades no boon run when

[vital tapir]

they have never beaten the game actually

[rustic vale]

Has been done many times

[remote iris]

oh wow

[rustic vale]

Is a speedrun category

I think the highest was 51 heat? Or maybe my memory is bad

[twilit lodge]

Damnit

Dad killed me with a boiling blood spin

When he was at No Hp

[native blade]

Nice!, so it is possible.

[twilit lodge]

I had splitting bolt smair dio call

How could this happen to me

[rustic vale]

I went and did it with every weapon and aspect at around 20 heat and a few times at 32

[twilit lodge]

Losing my last DD in the room before sack probably helped

[vital tapir]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H3ezPgERNo

[remote iris]

no chamber rewards whatsoever run when

[rustic vale]

Would have to be modded

[twilit lodge]

Literally not possible

[remote iris]

i know i am /j

[twilit lodge]

But you didn’t say slash jay!!!!

Quit breaking the rules on gif

On god

[vital tapir]

also done at 50 with hestia beowulf and hades spear

[twilit lodge]

On gif

[rustic vale]

Was fun

[twilit lodge]

Having fun playing hit game Hades™️ is a bannable offense

[remote iris]

has fresh file boonless been done? would luck need to be astronomical to avoid boons with no fated whatever?

[rustic vale]

I should make 1 big photo of all my shackle wins w/out attack special and cast

[twilit lodge]

You should do it

[rustic vale]

Think it would be literally impossible

[signal aspen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/771815559410876446/1005194139639484416/20220805211953_1.jpg

Yes definitely

Ignore health

[rustic vale]

Oh nevermind

[signal aspen]

And time

[remote iris]

real

[rustic vale]

real

[twilit lodge]

Good work!!!

[signal aspen]

Thanks it wasn't me

[twilit lodge]

What gaming chair do you use

O

[rustic vale]

He just only hit centaur hearts easy

[signal aspen]

@eternal marlin what gaming chair do you use

[lean timber]

simply tanked it

[rustic vale]

The entire run was actually just the hades fight

[eternal marlin]

Just a wooden chair actually

[signal aspen]

Elite gaming chair

Did you get it from ikea

Bonus points for that

[native blade]

How does 51 heat work?

[signal aspen]

50+1=51

[lean timber]

you activate 50 heat and then add one more hope this helps

[native blade]

https://tenor.com/view/woke-spiritualawa-gif-13096816

[signal aspen]

Wdym by "how does it work'

[rustic vale]

It just does

[native blade]

As far as I know it only goes up to 32 heat.

[signal aspen]

No

[vital tapir]

it goes up to double that

[rustic vale]

It goes up to 63(64) heat

[signal aspen]

Just add more

[native blade]

I'm so confused.

[rustic vale]

Depending on if you play hellmode or not

[native blade]

Modded?

[signal aspen]

No

[rustic vale]

the cap is not 32

[signal aspen]

32 is the last heat level you get rewards for

But you can keep going after that

[native blade]

OHHHHHH.

[eternal marlin]

Nope 20/25 is.

[rustic vale]

“Reward” mhm

[rustic vale]

Actually max heat is 4

[signal aspen]

Skelly statue is a reward

Oh mb

[eternal marlin]

[rustic vale]

Smh my head my head no skelly statue for 64 heat

[signal aspen]

Fr

Me when I find out my 51 heat run was actually modded because max heat is 4

[rustic vale]

True!

[twilit lodge]

What happens at 25?

[remote iris]

aphrodite boons are ass change my mind

[lean timber]

you instantly die

[lean timber]

enough

[twilit lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-not-nope-gif-22294097

[rustic vale]

If on hell mode max rewards are 25 since you start at 5

[twilit lodge]

Icicic

[remote iris]

tell me why theyre good

[twilit lodge]

I don’t owe you any explanation tbh

[remote iris]

useless if you simply git gud and avoid hits

[rustic vale]

Are you talking her tier 2’s? Because every aphro boon which isn’t a tier 2 also isn’t ass unless I can’t remember something

[swift inlet]

They're good because mongo damage

[swift inlet]

Useful because you just kill things fast

[twilit lodge]

Life affirmation kinda smelly

[eternal marlin]

Health good tho

[rustic vale]

Aphro boons are like only useless if you aren’t planning on hitting anything

[twilit lodge]

Smair is useless just learn to dodge

[vital tapir]

life affirmation is great

[eternal marlin]

me safe

[rustic vale]

True!

Low tolerance, smair, sweet nectar, and heart rend are all useless if you just dodge smh my head my head

Aphrodite cores are all useless if you just dodge smh

[swift inlet]

Aphrodite cores re the best thing about her besides smair lmao

[rustic vale]

Sweet surrender is useless if you just dodge

[twilit lodge]

Just get lightning reflexes and kill everything by learning how to dodge

[lean timber]

sweet surrender is +% damage on weak enemies

[rustic vale]

Is that the only message you’ve read matty

[lean timber]

yeah

[remote iris]

What midrodite boon do i get for malphon (all common) heartbreak flourish, dying lament, or wave of deez

[lean timber]

deezspair

[rustic vale]

I guarantee it has been unless there are some aspects people just don’t want to use

[lean timber]

depends on your aspect are u running dem?

[swift inlet]

isn't sweet surrender global

[rustic vale]

Whats the rest of your build?

[remote iris]

magnet one

[rustic vale]

Yes

[vital tapir]

it’s been done at 50 heat multiple times, i doubt all aspects is a problem

[lean timber]

no only applies to weakened enemies

[rustic vale]

What’s your build

[lean timber]

bad news is global and bad influence is global

[lean timber]

honestly dying lament will be good because it adds area of effect

[rustic vale]

You just don’t like her because she’s banging your crush smh my head my head

[eternal marlin]

Sweet Surrender is more like local

[remote iris]

i have drunken strike, peer pressure, floursih from chaos, bad influence, aphrodite's aid, and nourished soul

[rustic vale]

Aphrodite flourish

For low tolerance

[swift inlet]

SO true

[remote iris]

k

[lean timber]

TRUE!!

[rustic vale]

I’m always right except for when I’m left

[twilit lodge]

Take drunken flourish and stack dio

[remote iris]

i thought that was Nyx

[swift inlet]

No birches?

[rustic vale]

greek mythology moment

[remote iris]

oh

[lean timber]

like hell they do lol

[swift inlet]

No they 100% do

[lean timber]

sorry for ping discord is dumb

not canon to the game tho

[swift inlet]

^

[vital tapir]

is 0 heat boonless gonna be a problem for anything tho

[lean timber]

in the myths yes, in the game there's no romance between ares and aphrodite at all

[swift inlet]

They literally have a duo and are eye blasting each other

[twilit lodge]

Dad spear

[lean timber]

ignored

[remote iris]

quake nutter, heavy knuckle, or roiling knuckle (aspect of the magnet thingy)

[rustic vale]

Hangover builds want aphrodite because low tolerance is literally a 60% boost to the possible damage your hangover can do

[vital tapir]

like you could probably winstreak all aspects boonless at 0 heat

[twilit lodge]

Quake nutter I’m dead

[rustic vale]

Not heavy knuckle because you have dio fists

[swift inlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie-_n_U89Zo

[vital tapir]

fo0 free

[swift inlet]

"Endlessly discuss"

Mm hmmmmmm

"Discuss"

"carry on in private"

[rustic vale]

Endless discus 🥏

[twilit lodge]

Literally every line aphro has is like that

[vital tapir]

the only dd that matters is the one after the last

[remote iris]

i think i'll do quake nutter

oopsies! i meant nutter!

wow, mistyped again! i meant nutter, sorry

[twilit lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-thatsok-thats-ok-gif-19239509

[lean timber]

conjectural at best

[rustic vale]

Would take rolling imo

[remote iris]

oh gee, i really can't type, can i. i meant nutter, ofc

[lean timber]

sorry i meant

[vital tapir]

quake cutter is the wave when you land right

[rustic vale]

Yes

[remote iris]

yes

[lean timber]

yes i think so

[vital tapir]

i hate that one

bc you have to finish the full special animation

[rustic vale]

It’s dumb because you can dash out of it happening

[twilit lodge]

Quake cutter pos flourish talos

[rustic vale]

Like double nova

[vital tapir]

yea

i was just gonna say double nova

[twilit lodge]

I mean

You can dash out of regular sword special

It’s annoying asf when playing nem

[rustic vale]

You can dash out before the second nova goes out and then it just doesn’t go

[eternal marlin]

Or.. proceed as if nothing happened.

[remote iris]

how did the fury sisters get their job? ||they were... ALECTED!!!||

[twilit lodge]

I’m going to key your car

[remote iris]

(that's not an actual spoiler btw that's the joke answer)

[rustic vale]

Oh rip the dark thirst landed on guan-yu

How do I even want to spin that

[twilit lodge]

Never spin

That’s how

[rustic vale]

Pos strike
aphro flourish
Zeus dash
Dio call I guess

[remote iris]

sinply don't get hit

[rustic vale]

it was an unintentional play on words I meant how I want to build that because I’ll be chasing EA eclipses

[twilit lodge]

Pos attack dio special

Thunder dash

[rustic vale]

That’s not the issue
It’s how I want to build it that it

[vital tapir]

pos strike guan yu is not gonna be enjoyable

[rustic vale]

Clearly you’ve never played pos strike gy

[twilit lodge]

That’s the point

[vital tapir]

i have

[rustic vale]

I have

It was mega fun

Although I didn’t have the small issue of fo2 on when I did but I’m not turning off fo2 because speed heat

Is just going to be rough even with quick spin due to having fo2 on

[vital tapir]

oh if you’re doing 6 heat or whatever it’ll be fine

[warm nimbus]

highest % boost of any god

[remote iris]

absolute ass status effect tho

[vital tapir]

weak is good

[twilit lodge]

We are being actively trolled

[rustic vale]

Is 15 heat

[twilit lodge]

Report to battle stations

[remote iris]

come ON bro

[vital tapir]

dynowned

[rustic vale]

Fo2 em2 td3
Fo2 makes enemies faster
Em2 makes lernie faster
Td3 removes survival rooms which means my rlt is faster

[twilit lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/aborddelimpala-sam-winchester-supernatural-soap-mouth-gif-22943680

[warm nimbus]

30% decreased damage is pretty good

[rustic vale]

Yeah 10% damage reduction is garbo /s

[remote iris]

And what if it's not bait? What if it truly is my unfiltered, doggy poopoodoodoo (happy dyno???) opinion?

[warm nimbus]

and also if you just decide to "not get hit" (will never happen) then aphro is still good because its the highest % increase as i said

[rustic vale]

then your genuine opinion is a troll

[warm nimbus]

that makes her unaruably good in attack/special if you want a % damage boon

[vital tapir]

if you’re not getting hit the boons you have don’t matter at all, you’re still winning

[rustic vale]

Her cast is also big damage

[remote iris]

no, i don't want a "% damage boon" i want the boon to do the funny cool thing

[rustic vale]

and her dash makes heart rend triple shot zag bow rz wins

[rustic vale]

You want the boob to do what 😳
Smh can’t believe you editted your message

[warm nimbus]

what is the "funny cool thing"

[eternal marlin]

get the legendary?

[remote iris]

whatever the cool status effect is

[rustic vale]

Weaken?

[warm nimbus]

well thats not yoptimal all the time

[remote iris]

i said cool

[warm nimbus]

and also yeah weak lol

[warm nimbus]

it is cool

[remote iris]

i said cool

[warm nimbus]

what status effects are cool then

[eternal marlin]

OK if cool use Demeter

[rustic vale]

Exposed

[hardy spear]

the cool ones obvs

[twilit lodge]

Hunters mark is the only cool curse

[rustic vale]

Chill is the cool status curse

[twilit lodge]

Chill is trying too hard

[remote iris]

Poseidon, Zeus, Ares, Demeter, Dionysus, Hermes :trol: , Athena, Artemis

[rustic vale]

All the other curses are lacking smh they don’t have a 10 second duration at base

[rustic vale]

Hermes status curse my favourite

[remote iris]

same

[warm nimbus]

so zeus and artemis, got it

[hardy spear]

athena?

[warm nimbus]

ah yeah mb forgot about extra backstab damage

what an interesting one

[rustic vale]

Athena is a cool status curse and aphro isn’t? you really are trolling

[remote iris]

exposed is clearly coolest curse

[twilit lodge]

It was figured out a long time ago

We just been indulging you

[warm nimbus]

also this is based

[rustic vale]

Idk I just am too fast to have read words

[twilit lodge]

Hunters mark exposed Pstatus goated

[remote iris]

exposed coolest curse

[rustic vale]

Exposed ruptured pstatus goated

[twilit lodge]

Mfw dio doesn’t have a t2 curse smh my head my head

Drunk and Drunkerer

[rustic vale]

Mfw ares doesn’t give a t2 curse smh my head my head

[twilit lodge]

Solo god Pstatus

Ares Pstatus is a flex

[rustic vale]

where is my festive fog status curse

[twilit lodge]

But it does work

[rustic vale]

Yeah

[twilit lodge]

Doom exposed me pstatus

[rustic vale]

ME can take advantage of pstatus

[twilit lodge]

Pretty high roll tho

Cuz if you miss getting exposed you’re missing out on 25% you could have had with ff

[rustic vale]

Jolted from heavens vengeance best pstatus

[twilit lodge]

Jolted doom Pstatus from vengeful mood

[remote iris]

nectar best eurydice treat

[twilit lodge]

You probably think you’re trolling so this makes me smile

[remote iris]

i'm not

[rustic vale]

I would say untrue, {insert other eury treat here} but I can’t remember the names of the other eury treats

Ambrosia delight?

[twilit lodge]

Ambrosia and pom

Pom porridge

[remote iris]

that one rarities up 2 random boons you already have

[twilit lodge]

Nectar nibbles

Ambrosia appetizer

[rustic vale]

I was just throwing out what I thought a name could be since I couldn’t remember them

[remote iris]

pom mortgage levels up 4 boons you have

[rustic vale]

[twilit lodge]

Pom mortgage

[rustic vale]

and nectar rarities up your bouldy boons

[remote iris]

pom mortgage

[twilit lodge]

Gonna lose the dam house

[rustic vale]

I know what the other eury things do just didn’t have them by name since they are cringe and not pick up worthy in most cases

[twilit lodge]

Ambrosia is good for getting heroic rarity divine dash

Or heroic crystal beam

[rustic vale]

Ambrosia good for rariting up bouldy boons

[twilit lodge]

Rarotonga

[vital tapir]

pom porridge is great

[rustic vale]

Pom porridge great because rng manip into +4 levels on a dio boon

Imagine pom slice +sweet nectaring your first level on a hangover boon

[twilit lodge]

I wish

[lean timber]

move speed and damage reduction are the best bouldy boons because they apply to everything

move speed especially with rd

[rustic vale]

Obol %

[lean timber]

attack special and cast damage are good along with obols

but they don't have the global effects the others do

[rustic vale]

True!

I’d get a hundred or so unneeded nectars back

[sly ridge]

i just got uf in tartarus right after mid shop

this is like my 6th rama run in a row

[rustic vale]

uf… my mind is blanking

[lean timber]

ultra flight

it's unhealthy fixation btw

[rustic vale]

Oh lol

[gray apex]

Easy money

[lean timber]

on rama yeah

[twilit lodge]

UF passion dash

[lean timber]

honestly if it's on special? i would keep it

[twilit lodge]

Is fun vs dad

[lean timber]

attack i would def sell

[sly ridge]

i got unhealthy fix but i only got a core aphro boon on attack

[lean timber]

yeah you're eligible as soon as you take a core

and get a supporting boon

[rustic vale]

Bruh why are there so many unironic enjoyers smh

Should be more ironic enjoyers

[sly ridge]

i LOVE RAMA

[rustic vale]

2 unironic anything enjoyers is too many

[lean timber]

i love rama as well

[rustic vale]

I like rama

[lean timber]

i will rip your arms off and beat you with them

[rustic vale]

?

I like rama like I like hera

Occasion play

[sly ridge]

ah yes

trial of the gods between zeus and aphro

should i go with zeus flourish or aphro flourish

just asking

[rustic vale]

If you still have unhealthy fixation

[lean timber]

zeus

always zeus

[rustic vale]

probably zeus

[lean timber]

don't fit to what you have, fit to what works

[sly ridge]

ok then

im pretty sure aphro strike is good tho right

[lean timber]

yes of course

[rustic vale]

What works is oceans bounty and eclispes

[rustic vale]

Yes

is good on chonky base damage weapons

[lean timber]

common aphro is pretty cringe, but anything else is generally pretty good. i would only level epic attack up tho

[sly ridge]

jesus christ why is so much happening in tarturus

[rustic vale]

Magic

[sly ridge]

erebus gate, fishing points, thanatos shows up

i just want a hammer bruh

[lean timber]

artemis is also a good choice, but it's ehhh inconsistent at best. HOWEVER, if you get marked with it, it becomes comparable to aphro epic attack. can also go for heart rend with that setup, which is a favorite setup of mine

[rustic vale]

Chaos

[twilit lodge]

Tart than

Don’t tell matty about that

[rustic vale]

Don’t tell matty about anything

[sly ridge]

why not

[rustic vale]

Unless it’s to annoy him

[lean timber]

TART THANATOS IS SUBOPTIMAL

YOU WANT TO SEE HIM IN ELYSIUM BECAUSE IT SAVES MORE TIME

SUFFER AND DIE!!!

[sly ridge]

real

[rustic vale]

True! Matty being correct for once

But you really want than in hades fight for the most time save

[sly ridge]

lol

i hope i get a high rarity rare crop

or rare at least

[rustic vale]

Why?

[sly ridge]

so i can try and get a higher rarity heart strike early on

cuz the one i got was common

[twilit lodge]

I don’t always get rare or epic rare crop

But when I do it’s my second boon

[rustic vale]

not really a reason to force demeter I think

But idk

[sly ridge]

whats the highest attack bonus bouldy can give

[twilit lodge]

Yeah you should force dem for rav will instead

[rustic vale]

10%?
Or 5% I can’t remember

[twilit lodge]

All bouldy boons max at 10% I believe

[gray apex]

Force Artemis

[sly ridge]

damn i got unlucky then

only 3

[twilit lodge]

Honestly getting a free room from sissy saved you more time than even 10% bouldy to your damage source would have

[rustic vale]

+10% jolted damage from bouldy

[sly ridge]

flood shot, hydraulic might, or epic tidal dash

[rustic vale]

tdash

[sly ridge]

id have to replace my rare passion dash tho

[twilit lodge]

Bouldy 10% more damage taken boon

Epic splash dash goated

[sly ridge]

ok then

theres a boss rush???

[remote iris]

yes!!!???

common knowledge smh

imagine curing poison, just speedrun

[sly ridge]

ah yes

exclusive access

bro why is theseus getting insecure 💀

[lean timber]

sissy

[sly ridge]

sussy

[twilit lodge]

Because he’s a narcissist

[rustic vale]

No you get it after the fight

[magic fern]

the virgin theseus vs the chad asterius

[swift inlet]

Sussy and baka

Baka believes in you, and you believe in baka

[magic fern]

you get the heart by killing the spawns

duh

[sly ridge]

real

[twilit lodge]

Why does Theseus walk back from throwing his spear looking like he’s got a full diaper on

Got that waddle

[brisk trail]

he’s the person one direction references in what makes you beautiful

[remote iris]

is "hug your dad" a glitch

[signal aspen]

no

[remote iris]

was it confirmed by devs to not be a glitch?

[prisma wind]

It is intentional, and EM4 addresses it

[lean timber]

wait what? hug your dad?

i wanna hug my dad

oh the gap

right

[signal aspen]

i wanna hug your dad too

[lean timber]

my dad is quite heavy

[remote iris]

hades after hearing " "

[twin atlas]

Trying to come up with posiden build, is posiden dash and cast, dyo attack aphro special and exit wounds good?

Also what other boons/duo boons are good

[twilit lodge]

Lightning phalanx

It’s the strongest lodging cast that has good aoe clear

Poseidon sword doesn’t really dash strike much so tidal dash is a bit unnecessary

[rustic vale]

Shackle and no cast boon

[rustic vale]

Opens mirage shot

[twilit lodge]

Just take pos call arty special /s

[rustic vale]

Pos sword ain’t exactly achilles but hunting blades should work well as well

[vital tapir]

tidal dash might make hitting special annoying in rooms

[twin atlas]

Not dash attack

Just dash

[twin atlas]

Do those get affected by exit wounds?

[twilit lodge]

No

They don’t lodge

[twin atlas]

Doesnt it travel to others?

[rustic vale]

They don’t lodge so no?

[twilit lodge]

Yes it bounces 3 times (lightning phalanx)

And despite the name it doesn’t trigger any lightning boon effects so don’t try to get splitting bolt or jolted

[rustic vale]

Exit wounds shouldn’t be the core of your build bruh you’re using a castpect the enemies should be dead so they can’t lodge

[twin atlas]

Also posiden is stronger

[twilit lodge]

Exit wounds helps if you get it tho

Okay but you’re asking for advice so why are you arguing

Lol

[twin atlas]

Bcs u said zeus was stronger

[rustic vale]

Zeus?

[twilit lodge]

No I didn’t

[twin atlas]

Wait im a dumb ass

[twilit lodge]

I said lightning phalanx which is a Zeus Athena duo for the Athena cast

[rustic vale]

The aspect? The cast? Thenwhat? The When?

[twin atlas]

I thought phalanx was zeus

God im dumb

[twilit lodge]

It happens

[twin atlas]

Is posiden dash (not dash attack) still worth it then?

[twilit lodge]

It’s nice for opening mirage shot as @rustic vale mentioned

[twin atlas]

Oh ok ty

Also wtf is that name

Its like one of the worst

[twilit lodge]

Shackle is one of the best

[rustic vale]

What name?

[twilit lodge]

You got some good loud my friend

[twin atlas]

No way

[rustic vale]

my name is perfect

[twin atlas]

Am i being trolled

[rustic vale]

I stan shackle

[twilit lodge]

Nah shackle is the only bestest keepsake name here that isn’t a troll name

The others are all slash jay

[rustic vale]

Although given I haven’t actually used shackle in forever I’m not sure if my judgement stands

[twilit lodge]

I should make my name sigil of the dead worst keepsake

So I can’t post in #h1-for-new-players anymore

Without spoiler tagging my name

[rustic vale]

That’s literally slash jay though

[twin atlas]

I love sigil

imo the best

[twilit lodge]

Yeah and all the best/worst keepsake names are slash jay except yours

SMH c3 door Zeus and hammer

When I started drunk strike eris

Why not when I’m Zeus strike eris

[lean timber]

hey guys

[twilit lodge]

Sup

Are you nyaanyaa mewmew alt account

[lean timber]

who's that

[twilit lodge]

Convincing

[rustic vale]

Don’t insult nyaanyaa mewmew by calling matty an alt of theirs

[twilit lodge]

Ouch

Matty’s gonna kick your pumpkin for that

[rustic vale]

He’s gonna kill me for that one fr fr

Even though he still hasn’t killed me for the 18 other times my life has been threatened

[twilit lodge]

Ugh where do I put ares on drunk eris for the duo

I got rocket so

[rustic vale]

Curse of vengeance

[twilit lodge]

Special seems bad

Good point

Me when not offered rip

[rustic vale]

Curse of vengeance best curse of nausea opener because it also doesn’t open curse of longing

[twilit lodge]

Slicing shot eris

[rustic vale]

Eris is a castpect

[twilit lodge]

Oh ffs slicing doesn’t even

Curse of pain rockets eris

Who needs a +2 Pom on drunk strike when you can get healed for 1hp instead because a witch sniped yoi

[old belfry]

personally, i'd have gone for the pom and not the +1

but that's just me

and then died in the next room

[twilit lodge]

Truly a ski lift shoe

Game refuses to give me cov

[rustic vale]

fill your other cores nerd

do you have low tolerance cores yet?

[twilit lodge]

Yes

cov
id19

20% Greece fishing point odds is a scam

Haven’t seen one in 10 clears at least

The dopamine rush from seeing new dialog in the house

Even knowing it’s just dad commenting on the throne upgrade I bought

[latent moon]

get max rank from the resources director for dialogue lol

[rustic vale]

Dad keeps complimenting my new ranks

[latent moon]

i haven't bought a new rank in months

[twilit lodge]

This is why your dad doesn’t love you

[latent moon]

lmfao

[magic fern]

charon deserves to be robbed for charging such high prices

[latent moon]

that's just rude

homie's gotta make a living too

[oak apex]

is there uh any way to trigger the charon money bag

i did three runs whwre i was planning to do it and havent found it at all

[latent moon]

it only appears after you've reached 10 wins

and at that point it's like a 50% chance to see it in your runs? only appears in midshop

and it's like a 22% chance each time or something? i dont really remember

[magic fern]

I think it's only 1 win because I haven't won 10 times yet

[old belfry]

yeah only happens in midshop

so take all shops

[latent moon]

i'm fairly certain it's not 1 win

[magic fern]

I found my first bag after 1 win though

[oak apex]

thats what ive been doing

just unlucky

[rustic vale]

It’s 1

[latent moon]

Huh damn

I don't remember it being after 1 win lmao

[magic fern]

ok I got promptly whooped again after making a couple mistakes in the span of a few seconds

charon scary

[lean timber]

charon real scary

50 damage kinda hard

i just realized

[prisma wind]

The damage is scary but the fight itself is pretty straight forward, I think. Biggest piece of advice I have is to try to never stand in front of him

[lean timber]

"white fire"

i'm so stupid

but yes the fight is extremely single since he has like four moves. but he's only had a few clears so it's definitely hard for now

[prisma wind]

Now I'm curious how you possibly thought it was pronounced

[twilit lodge]

Like some welsh town name

[lean timber]

well i knew that's how it was said but i was like "what does it mean"

i wasn't listening to myself say it ig

[twilit lodge]

Wight =! White

It’s a ghost I think

[prisma wind]

Correct

[twilit lodge]

Of some sort

[lean timber]

a wight? is a thing?

is that a folklore thing

or mythos

[twilit lodge]

There’s a whole island full of them somewhere

[prisma wind]

This really isn't the channel for this 😛

[remote iris]

i just encountered a small bug in the hades fight

[rustic vale]

Oh yes?

[twilit lodge]

Yeah dad summons adds

Just kill the small bug smh

[swift inlet]

Ok so uh

I got some goated athena luck in a heat run

Deathless + last stand

Except I forgot to trigger sd on one of them

[rustic vale]

Rip

[twilit lodge]

Hallelujah

My first aspho chamber didn’t go well and I’ve been at or below 25 Hp since

Just got strong drink and the next chamber was a fountain

[twilit lodge]

Your honor, my client would like to plead “oopsy daisy”

[swift inlet]

yeah, check #h1-victory-boasting

I have 2 charges even though I picked up two stand boons lmao

[quiet lily]

I heard Mirage Shot is bugged for the hidden Aspects for the shield and bow, that the 2nd cast AOE deals full damage rather than 30% like the boon states, is this true?

[twilit lodge]

True for the shield

I think only for some of the casts on bow but I don’t claim to know for sure

[latent moon]

Only flares

So just trippy flare on hera

[quiet lily]

Is it understood why it works that way with the flare cast boons?

[latent moon]

And all flares except thunder flare on beo

[latent moon]

No lol

It's a bug feature

Trippy flare also has an additional bug so that's cool

[twilit lodge]

My dad works for SGG and he put that in so I could beat the game

(Thanks dad)

[latent moon]

(very cool)

[quiet lily]

What's the additional bug on trippy flare?

[latent moon]

Poms give you double of what it says

So if it says 100->120 it'll actually give you 140 damage

[twilit lodge]

So the tooltip damage is never accurate

[quiet lily]

Mmm

So it's like it has the Sweet Nectar Duo applied?

[thorny mirage]

Man I’m malding

[twilit lodge]

It’s ((Tooltip - Base) x 2) + Base

[thorny mirage]

a week ago I went home, checked my switch and saw that my siblings deleted my old switch account for some stupid reason

so my hades save data is gone

agony

[twilit lodge]

Rip

Saves might still be on nso?

If you call support

[thorny mirage]

didn’t keep buying nso

[latent moon]

Technically no because pom scaling is different but sorta

[twilit lodge]

Ah

That’s unfortunate sorry bro

Want me to kill them?

[thorny mirage]

ask me again a week later

[twilit lodge]

Alexa set a timer for one week

[rustic vale]

Not hidden aspect of bow 💀

[rustic vale]

Nope it’s like every pom’s boost is applied double. Due to more poms = diminishing returns on almost all boons it isn’t like sweet nectar

[twilit lodge]

All boons have diminishing returns except like

Pressure points

Because it’s always 1 lol

[rustic vale]

Hangover boons

since it’s always 1

[twilit lodge]

They still go down

[rustic vale]

Except for pom 1

[twilit lodge]

Starts higher than 1 technically

🤓

[rustic vale]

Drunken dash then

Iirc

[twilit lodge]

Oh and storm lightning

Always +2

[rustic vale]

drunken dash and pressure points and storm lightning

[latent moon]

Nasty dash is always +1

Oh you said that

I didn't register drunken is nasty lmao

[rustic vale]

🧠

[twilit lodge]

And aphro call

Omg so many boons with no diminishing returns

Cracked

Lv50 them now )or you will regret!)

Lv50 aphro call sounds like gaming

[rustic vale]

does broken resolve have diminsing returns I can’t remember

Ohwait no

I meant empty inside not broken resolve

[twilit lodge]

Idk

I just know the first Pom is +2.5

I wanna know what happened with hunters flare that they decided to nerf its damage compared to true shot so much

[latent moon]

Probably because it's on beo lol

[rustic vale]

Is too overpowered

Who decided that true shot and hunter flare would get shafted in the crit rate department

[twilit lodge]

Supergiant Games

[latent moon]

Because cast is cringe

[twilit lodge]

true

Who throws red rocks at enemies

Honestly

[rustic vale]

I only throw blue rocks

[twilit lodge]

Throw more dots

[lean timber]

i only throw pink rocks

[native blade]

I really do wish this place had vc, I wanna have some peeps around to play hades with.

[rich gulch]

No fun allowed.

[native blade]

:/

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1030747862453207040/unknown.png

Which door?

[bright field]

Hey, so last night I was happy for beating Hades again, 2nd or 3rd time. Then this morning I found my save file was marked with God Mode, which was a bummer to me. I have no idea why this activated, as I never went into settings. Why did it activate? Is there a way of accidentally doing it in game? I'm kind of bummed I got a hollow victory

[native blade]

Nah, feel proud. All your efforts got you that victory regardless of some damage resistance.

As far as I know there's no hotkey or anything so maybe u just accidentally turned it on without noticing.

[bright field]

That's alright, thanks, but just for my reference and for the future, did I accidentally toggle it in game? Ah ok

Weird

Esp bc i haven't played in a while, did 2 runs, and it was just. On

[native blade]

I've been playing after a break too, it was off for me, I genuinely don't know what happened with you.

[bright field]

Ah well

At least it doesn't Perma mark my save file or remove achievements

I'm glad the mode exists btw don't get me wrong. Just personally don't want to use it bc I'm stubborn

[native blade]

It sucks that you found that out after you won but seriously man, try not to get bogged down by this, it's an achievement no matter what.

[native blade]

I get it, I'm the same way, the only reason I have it now is cuz I refuse to play without Stubborn Defiance.

Which is... very funny now that I think about it.

[bright field]

I'm way too trash to do this

[latent moon]

What chamber number are you at

And how much gold do you have

And what's your first hermes

[native blade]

Oh yeah, I should've shown that, 355.

[latent moon]

And overall build I guess lol

If you have 355 gold take hermes

[native blade]

I'm low on health, that's why I'm debating but I feel like gold is better in the long run, rii?

[latent moon]

355 is plenty

You can buy a boon and a heart

And food I think

Yeah you should be able to

So you're fine

[native blade]

I got Second Wind.

[latent moon]

From first Hermes?

[native blade]

Yuh.

[latent moon]

I mean hyper sprint or greater reflexes won't be bad here

Quick recovery too I guess

[native blade]

I haven't gotten the hang of that yet, but I'm not really in a position to be that picky ig.

Thanks btw.

[native blade]

Lel, I got my first win with it so I thought I'd be good but Pact of Punishment is a whole 'nother beast.

[latent moon]

I mean it's not something you proc voluntarily lol it's like "crap I dashed too late at least I'll get some hp back"

[native blade]

Lel, true.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755677197670285312/1030751905271529502/unknown.png

Sometimes I hate how recklessly I play...

Ok.

Ok.

Ok.

Spam Flourish is a godsend (lol) for me rn.

If only I had Draining Cutter :/

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755677197670285312/1030752753640816650/unknown.png

Infernal Trove, My Beloved.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755677197670285312/1030753169430564894/unknown.png

Comebacktime.

Is there any mods that allow you to change Darkness stuff mid game?

[brisk trail]

im gonna try nemesis aspect, what keepsake shld i use and whats a good build

[bright field]

I just won again with only one death defiance lost, no accidental god mode. I redeemed

[native blade]

LEZZZZZ GOOOOOO!!!!

You're way better than me.

[native blade]

Build?

[bright field]

Jeez i don't really remember what the things are called. But it was pretty basic. Zagreus aspect of the big sword. With the classic Athena deflect dash. Lots of Ares doom for the attack. Aphrodite special. And then to top it off a bunch of extra dashes and also a dual Aphrodite ares boon where doom extra affects weakened enemies.

[native blade]

NICE!!!

I'm doing a weird Love & War build with Talos Fists.

Hope it works out, it's had it's ups and downs.

As you can see.

[bright field]

Sounds all fair to me.

[native blade]

Hehe, nice.

[native blade]

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

SO CLOSE!!!!

I'M TOO DAMN RECKLESS!!!

[native blade]

https://clipchamp.com/watch/43TYZCo8z1c

Here's my shame if anyone wants to see it.

[native blade]

Can’t believe I died to Megaera…

I couldn’t get the hang of Flood Shot.

[brisk trail]

does aphrodite give the highest damage boosts?

[lean timber]

yes

[raw herald]

Highest raw % yeah

Wont always be highest DPS

[native blade]

Yo someone gimme a random keepsake to start with.

[rustic vale]

Shackle

then don’t take it off

[native blade]

HEAVY KNUCKLE GET!!!

[lean timber]

i heavy knuckled your mom

[native blade]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-defoe-respect-gif-24551385

[olive bridge]

me too

[native blade]

:/

[strong ridge]

me too

[native blade]

Got killed by Archer, le sigh.

[olive bridge]

how to play markoskwais?

[strong ridge]

hm

[worldly sierra]

Now I remember why I hate rush kick.

Sometines it decides to launch you across the screen and close distance the way you expect, and sometimes it decides "nah, I'm just gonna do a backflip right here and mess up your plans so you get hit"

[high island]

Pretty sure it's the Dash-Special version that doesn't launch you forward.

[native blade]

But isn't that why we love it?

[worldly sierra]

Yes that's true @high island , but the non-dash kick is unpredictable.

It'll fizzle out often

[high island]

Maybe the enemy was out of auto-aim range?

[worldly sierra]

Doubt it. I was relatively close to Asterius when I tried. Instead of launching at him, I backflipped and got run over by Theseus 🤮

Hate getting killed by that guy, lol

[high island]

Doing high heat?

[twilit lodge]

I hate getting run down by Theseus

[worldly sierra]

Yeah, trying for 42... I guess that's not considered high heat these days though

[lean timber]

it's pretty good still

[twilit lodge]

42 heat is free

[quiet lily]

y'all are going up to 42 heat??

I'm just trying to collect the bounties remaining.

[twilit lodge]

65 heat is free

[quiet lily]

I'm calling cap on that

[worldly sierra]

After a while, turning forced OT off makes the game harder 🤣

Completely throws my timing off

[worldly sierra]

Well... At first I wanted to get all my weapons cleared at 40 heat because it was bothering me I only had 2/6.

Now that I cleared all weapons at 40 heat... I want moar

This game hasn't stopped being fun in the slightest for me

[quiet lily]

I think aspect of lucifer would have been better served as an aspect of Ra, don't @ me

travels through his underworld every night, is also a god that is reborn, sun rays translating into a lazer beam weapon easily, etc.

Seems like it would have been a more natural fit considering the Egyptian and Greek relationship in history rather than an insensitive depiction of lucifer being a son of God.

[native blade]

Well Lucifer is the Morning Star after all.

[native blade]

Well… he is…

Lucifer is the God of the Morning Star if I rember correctly.

[quiet lily]

You do not remember correctly at all.

[signal aspen]

it is high heat

[quiet lily]

lucifer was an angel before his fall, in a higher position over some other angels, and he could make music with his wings. Angels are creations of God, not gods themselves.

[native blade]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1030867399307706418/image0.jpg

@quiet lily

[quiet lily]

The game is clearly trying to reference the Biblical story but failing miserably at it.

Nothing in that exerpt you posted calls him a god either.

[lean timber]

he wasn't a god but he did have quite a bit of dominion

he was highly favored

[twilit lodge]

Lmao Erebus gate with two enemies and I still managed to get hit

[native blade]

He existed in greek mythology before is the point, it makes sense.

[twilit lodge]

There goes my tart lv7 splash dash dream

[native blade]

F.

[twilit lodge]

It was an armored asphodel witch

Rip

[gray apex]

Meg it

[twilit lodge]

You know after I picked up my red onion I honestly thought I should have lmao

Aspect of splash dash somehow one of my fastest dad kills ever

[swift inlet]

Beo already stands his ground against the serpent's flame, can't have Ra and apophis 😔

[swift inlet]

He is a son of God. Maybe Jesus is "more" so a son of God considering it's his literal title, but Christianity also says all people are sons and daughters of God. Lucifer was directly created by God, so like. He falls under that, too.

[remote iris]

rehiring dusa shouldve been her heart lock thing

[twilit lodge]

No ty

It already took long enough to get her bond

[chilly flume]

Is there a way to reset the first drop?
Prophecy hunting right now

[latent moon]

wdym by "first drop"

[chilly flume]

The very first drop, the one you get for free

[latent moon]

idk what you even mean by "drop"

[chilly flume]

"Boon", i should say? But it's a hammer

[latent moon]

oh

you die

if it's a hammer and you dont like the choices, choose a different aspect/weapon to get different choices (maybe)

if you wanted a god boon you have to die

you'll get your god tho in like c2 or c3

[chilly flume]

Angry_pakistani_meme.jpeg

Different weapon it is then

[rustic vale]

Prob mean reseting c1

[latent moon]

yeah i figured that out

[twilit lodge]

Idk man as

[latent moon]

someone with

[native blade]

BRUH!!!

How tf have I played this game for so long and not know until now that Satyr can absolutely f*ck your ~~shit ~~up?

THEY TOOK TWO DEATH DEFIANCES!!!!

[twilit lodge]

[latent moon]

evading swear filter moment

[twilit lodge]

Dyno is a robot and can’t read text with lines through it

[native blade]

Ok, OK.

[latent moon]

that wasn't an invitation to do it again

[native blade]

Oh...

[native blade]

Ok.

There we go.

[twilit lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-donaldtrump-interview-banned-cnn-gif-7677105

[lean timber]

i didn't know the strikethru trick worked

idk how it works

it should read the plain text

that's odd... it's just formatting

[twilit lodge]

It reads it later it seems

Because they got deleted eventually

More importantly who cares don’t swear on this Christian discord

[rustic vale]

Oh man got timed out

[lean timber]

yeah btw satyrs are pretty rough for new players. make sure to cure asap

[chilly flume]

Satyr are annoying but not run ending annoying for me...

Is this some 20+ heat statement I'm too much of a 3 heat player to understand?

[lean timber]

how can you tell?

[latent moon]

homie's muted

[twilit lodge]

[chilly flume]

Also biased towards Athena dash so

[short glen]

Muted role

[rustic vale]

Colour of name

Meant muted not timed out whoops

[lean timber]

oh i didn't realize

[twilit lodge]

They can mess you up big time if your build is a mess

And this guy doesn’t play meta

[latent moon]

i think it's just mishandling the situation lol
the only satyr that should be an issue is the miniboss one or the end of a regular tunnel with the larger rooms

[rustic vale]

No really? I haven’t had a rough moment with satyrs at 20 or 32 yet

[latent moon]

ddash works alright, tdash + breaking wave is ideal

[rustic vale]

Is meta having a build that actually functions or what then

[twilit lodge]

Yes that’s why it’s the meta

[latent moon]

anything can work with enough skill and up to a certain heat point lol

[twilit lodge]

Well dude is fairly new to the game

He’s having fun and learning at least

Hopefully

[rustic vale]

I should start going for higher heat but I’ve been darkness farming

[chilly flume]

What is ddash

What is tdash

Wat

[rustic vale]

Divine dash

Tidal dash

[latent moon]

yea

[twilit lodge]

Idk man as

[rustic vale]

reflect
splash

[latent moon]

if you do 32 heat you can still darkness farm lol

[rustic vale]

Like maybe do 32 heat with all aspects then go to 40

[chilly flume]

Reflect isn't busted, you meant? I'm sad lol

[twilit lodge]

Tidal Dash isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a dash with such an ability and utility? Tidal dash puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a strat with its power and enhancement of the game again. Divine Dash breaks records. Passion Dash breaks records. Tidal Dash breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.

[rustic vale]

I’ve been darkness farming at 15 heat for minimum rlt

[latent moon]

well it is one of the better dashes

it's just that for styx, tdash is much much better

and tdash is still overall really good

high damage, knockback can help the aspects that struggle close range

[native blade]

Yeah, I think what happened is a combination of inexperience and bad luck exploding out at once.

Looking back I always had divine dash on Styx before, so I always reflected the darts. I got trapped with a bunch of poison rats around me making it easy to keep proc'ing. Plus me Choosing Benefits package after choosing Extreme Measures before so they're tankier than I'm used to. The main thing is they were never a threat before so I never focused them like I should and I paid for it this time.

Welp, now I know.

[high island]

If you die, just try again.

[native blade]

Not dead yet.

[raw herald]

Does filling in a call boon increase duo chances

[high island]

No.

[raw herald]

So it’s just 10% chance per slot

[high island]

12% normally, 10% for miniboss boons.

[raw herald]

And filling attack/special/cast/dash does increase duo chances, right?

TCRTTCIRGO

[high island]

Only once you've filled all 4 of them.

Because the gods will no longer offer you 1 of them guaranteed.

Still a 10% chance that 1 offered option is an exchange.

[raw herald]

I’ve never understood all the boon chance stuff

[rustic vale]

Is call not counted as a core?

[raw herald]

It’s a core but not priority

[rustic vale]

No priority over anything at all?

[high island]

Basically, the game first rolls if you get an exchange. If you don't get an exchange and there's at least 1 open priority slot, then you're offered 1 of them.

So if you get an exchange or priority boon offered, then you only have 2 boons left that can be duo/legendary.

[raw herald]

In what situation are you offered 2 cores

[high island]

The first one is guaranteed if there's an open priority slot. The second one can just be offered in the same way you might see Different League etc.

[high island]

Before the duo/legendary roll, the game still rolls for t2 status curse if you meet the requirements.

Static Discharge etc.

If you meet the requirements, then there's a 50% it will be be offered.

In which case you can end up with 1 priority, 1 status curse, and only 1 boon that has a chance to be legendary/duo.

If legendary/duo roll fails, then any remaining offers are just filled with whatever is left available.

That's the step where you can see a second core boon.

[high island]

Right.

[twilit lodge]

Moral of the story never pick up boons they are all traps

[sly ridge]

is it possible to beat a run of hades without picking up any items

[twilit lodge]

No

Because you have to pick them up to exit the chamber

[latent moon]

define "items"

[sly ridge]

o h

well technically

[twilit lodge]

Die c1 before picking up the boon?

Oh L

[sly ridge]

lets say

hypothetically

every room was a charon shop