Super soaker bow
#h1-discussion
latent moon
high island
Purge Tempest Strike at the next opportunity, and then look for Heartbreak Strike or Frost Strike.
dusky cypress
surprised no one commented on the feather duster in the pic tbh
leveling up stuff to see if it seems any good/interesting? I already know I'm probably just gonna go coinpurse > egg > acorn, but still
yeah I know the tempest strike ruins the melee thing I have going on
high island
Just ruins the DPS lol.
twilit lodge
Got a fat purp Artemis special on zagspear and charged skewer
Just waiting for explosive for this build to wild out
(I will be disappointed)
latent moon
surprised no one commented on the feather duster in the pic tbh
leveling up st...
I mean you're probably using it just to level it up so it's not a big deal tbh
high island
Tempest Strike has the worst % on Attack and virtually pointless pom scaling as a result.
dusky cypress
which is also unfortunate because I have the duo sea storm but w/e lol
high island
Oh, in that case keep it.
dusky cypress
yeah but I also feel like people would disapprove of even the act of leveling lol
twilit lodge
Disapproval intensifies
high island
Still bad but at least that's something.
dusky cypress
I mean you can still knock enemies against walls + armored and bosses are immune
latent moon
yeah but I also feel like people would disapprove of even the act of leveling lo...
I mean it's gotta happen at some point if you want the steam achievement
dusky cypress
I'll get it eventually
latent moon
I mean you can still knock enemies against walls + ~~armored and~~ bosses are im...
Armored and bosses can be knocked back actually
dusky cypress
I probably still have at least 200 hades runs in me I'm sure
latent moon
Armored is standard knockback iirc, bosses have very minimal knockback
high island
yeah but I also feel like people would disapprove of even the act of leveling lo...
Eh... there's some players who disapprove of and even mock any build that's not "optimal", but they're a minority tbh. Just sometimes they're a bit louder than the others that are around.
dusky cypress
bosses get knocked back? I saw it happen to armored but it didn't really register for more than 1/2 a second when it happened to maegara
latent moon
It's super small
It's really noticable if you keep spamming knockback boons into them when they're invulnerable
dusky cypress
also I feel like "builds that make me laugh" still have a certain quality/charm to them and for me that's definitely breaking open the random pots I open hoping to find food x)
twilit lodge
All the effort I’ve put into this game has paid off
Orpheus and Eurydice singing together
dusky cypress
noice
high island
I've always enjoyed optimizing builds, but I also enjoy doing "stupid" builds and figuring out how to make them work.
Plus, you can't find optimal things anyway if you don't experiment a lot.
dusky cypress
ayy tempest showed up in the pool nice
high island
You'd wanna keep it if you already have Sea Storm tbh.
dusky cypress
already sold it + don't care lol
latent moon
Sea storm is useless now isn't it
dusky cypress
melee seems much more funny even if styx means it can mostly just get wall-bounces
absolutely unless something shows up but its not like anythings getting used besides the attack anyways which I want to be funny +150% triple/breathing-down-your-neck-as-I-fire-my-bow
white ember
Am I hindering myself by sticking with one weapon? I only really seem to have any success with the spear, but should I be using other weapons as well?
dusky cypress
ugggggghhhhhhhhhh this filter
plush lava
Aspect of Chiron seems busted
dusky cypress
I mean its fine for now but I think I'd suggest learning how best to use the others?
imho it took until I got an anvil I liked for most of the weapons to mean anything to me (well, for the bow my first successful run was when someone told me to use chiron, but also I leveled it to 3 which requires 9 titan blood)
idk if its busted... w/o knowing what the hidden one is wait I'm dumb its the best one
hidden is better but mostly because I get to laugh at it
white ember
And the best way of getting titan blood is to clear world's with the other weapons?
dusky cypress
yes
white ember
Dang
plush lava
Getting titan blood means I have to get good at the game and use melee (gross)
dusky cypress
you can also trade 1 ambrosia > 1 titan blood at any time but idk how many you have
I mean technically spears a melee even though if I had to hazard a guess you're spamming the special + grabbing vicious skewer if you can find it? lol
latent moon
Aspect of Chiron seems busted
It's a safe casual aspect that has high single target damage
white ember
Not any yet, I can somewhat get to the bosses of Elysium with the spear, but I can't even clear Tartarus with any of the other weapons
dusky cypress
how many hours do you have at the game/how many attempted runs?
latent moon
Am I hindering myself by sticking with one weapon? I only really seem to have an...
Yes because bounties end at 20 and you're gonna need more titan blood at some point
white ember
how many hours do you have at the game/how many attempted runs?
How do I check the number of attempts?
dusky cypress
(I'm probably a terrible person to ask for this because I know I'm quite happy tackling a tough-but-fair challenge... or sometimes challenges I know are complete BS but I still find entertaining)
plush lava
I can only clear Tartarus with bow shield and gun
Can only get to Styx with bow
Lol
dusky cypress
How do I check the number of attempts?
you can but I'm guessing you don't have access to it yet? you'd get a cutscene that explains/leads to it
plush lava
I think Theseus is a dumb boss fight tbh
dusky cypress
tbh I was expecting an extremely rough guesstimate
plush lava
It’s annoying af
dusky cypress
pro-tip: kill asterius first
plush lava
I do
dusky cypress
?
white ember
Ahh, it's probably just shy of 30 runs in about 15 hours, I suck
plush lava
But I’m still getting sniped by Theseus
dusky cypress
I mean he's kind of a pushover w/o asterius lol
dusky cypress
dash out of the way of the spear
or stand behind a pillar
or use shield to block that attack, and literally everything else
how are shield runs so cursed lmao
latent moon
How he continues to snipe me
kill bull first, stay nearish the sides so when he charges he's more likely to ram into the walls
try to keep a pillar between you and theseus so you dont get hit by his spear, otherwise be mindful of the target on your head
after theseus' spear throw, he walks the other way for about 3 or so steps so that's plenty of time to attack
when he spins, you can dash behind him during or after his spin
when he starts phase 2 with the god call, he just stands there so he's free pickings. you can get him to like 25% hp or so if you just smack him while his god call is going off. if you have a god call, make sure to save some charge for when this happens for free damage
white ember
To be honest though, my gaming reflexes are very very rusty
twilit lodge
No anvil to reroll this garbage second hammer into explosive
Rip
Athena special in shambles
high island
Am I hindering myself by sticking with one weapon? I only really seem to have an...
I don't think so. I used literally only the Twin Fists when they added them in Early Access for months until I got Twin Fists WR (high heat) with them, then switched to other weapons after that. If anything, it's helping you push into high heats or speed or whatever it is you wanna do faster with that weapon.
And when you get to a good level with it, you'll pick up other weapons faster than if you try them now because you'll have a better understanding of the game overall.
white ember
That's reassuring, thank you 😄
I've literally played strategy games for the last 10 years, this game is refreshing but very hard for my slowed reflexes
Anyway, I better leave before I see more spoilers haha
dusky cypress
NOOOOOOOO I got a tiny vermin in this run -_- hopefully it only ends up taking one DD uggghhhh
screw you rat I only took like 80 damage this time instead of idk like 200
high island
Anyway, I better leave before I see more spoilers haha
You might wanna stay in #h1-for-new-players. That's free of spoilers. 
Except when people forget to use spoiler tags, of course.
twilit lodge
screw you rat I only took like 80 damage this time instead of idk like 200
It’s only a tiny vermin…
dusky cypress
I feel like I laugh at zagreus's reaction every dang time until I realize "oh gods I have the same reaction he does" and I'm suddenly taking far too much damage
huh
smoldering air is curious
proud stag
Hey quick question, where would I post a meme video regarding Hades? #fan-works?
twilit lodge
Probably
twilit lodge
huh
smoldering air is curious
Smouldering air is gaming for multiple reasons
dusky cypress
Smouldering air is gaming for multiple reasons
it looks like gaming getting it at least once every 5 seconds lol
twilit lodge
Indeed
dusky cypress
tbh I imagine the main reason is if you have poseidon or any invuln its a 5-second shield lmao
twilit lodge
Combined with the iframes you get on activation it’s great for avoiding dad attacks
Imagine charming dad every 5 seconds
dusky cypress
ngl I feel like this will already be a worse victory than any spear or shield run
(I could still charge in like an idiot and still take some 800 points of damage easily yet, but.... still)
and I also got swift strike as final boon from charon lol
definitely could've done hades earlier but I did the rest of the tunnels just because I wanted to enjoy triple shot + wave bow (raja?) + point-blank lol
twilit lodge
Rama
dusky cypress
also the amount of damage my call inflicts is hilariously kind of relevant ig w/ smoldering air
yep, I still had to use 1/3 DDs because I'm not used to (ab)using smoldering air lmao
high island
DDs are a resource.
Losing 1 of them or losing all 3 makes no difference if you still win.
dusky cypress
yes I agree and it doesn't matter how many you have left after hades, merely that you don't need one when you don't have any left
high island
Exactly.
short glen
The only hit point that matters is the last
dusky cypress
I feel like that's a little bit more extreme since (at this point in my run) I'm still taking damage roughly every other room, but yeah
twilit lodge
Tart exploding launcher, aphro attack, Artemis special, Zeus shot, splash dash, and two chaos booms
Kinda cracked start for zag spear
Don’t even need a god keepsake for asphodel
high island
Ah yes, Chaos Booms.
twilit lodge
Boom booms
high island
Like Guile's Sonic Boom but less Sonic and more Chaos.
twilit lodge
Definitely the easiest witches circle I’ve ever had
twilit lodge
Non-sad Patroclus looking majestic af
twilit lodge
how do u unlock aspects?
Unlock all weapons and then come back from a run
fathom escarp
Unlock all weapons and then come back from a run
ahh ok
wdym by come back form a run
twilit lodge
Cause of death: fall damage 💀
dusky cypress
I already don't think I care for beowulf just because standard shield builds are already braindead, but at least they seem funny? idk why or how I'd enjoy beowulf
twilit lodge
Ok
dusky cypress
???????????????? there's a daedalus hammer that scales off current money?
(also doing numbers rn and yep, 5% of current money as bonus money sure seems like garbage, but I'm still surprised that exists)
dang this daedalus revealed double-strike and the memey-option (because I'm doing arthur again) greater consecration
dusky cypress
yeah its really good, idk what else there is to say about it
consecration is funny and as nice as I could imagine it being (taking less damage is always nice)... I fundamentally don't like the idea of being rewarded for being hit. Taking health ups could be considered to be similar but idk
twilit lodge
Health up doesn’t reward getting hit, it removes some of the punishment of getting hit
IMO
dusky cypress
Health up doesn’t reward getting hit, it removes some of the punishment of getti...
yeah it felt like a false equivalence/thinking "getting health rewards getting hit" felt wrong but I couldn't put it into words why
I mean I did it in asphodel as opposed to say, elysium where a single chariot spawn makes it impossible, but bruh
twilit lodge
Than shutouts feel good
Doesn’t seem to be any acknowledgment of it by the game though
dusky cypress
indeed even if its just because of fortunate spawns lol
yeah which is quite surprising for how much the game does have (and it at least has a steam achievement for... I think its 15 more than him? which makes a shutout not being acknowledged feels even weirder knowing they acknowledged any of the results)
vital tapir
many of the steam achievements have nothing ingame
dusky cypress
I want to say there's a thing for running away because you're low on health/too low damage/whatever because I thought this game thought of everything in terms of dialogue, but apparently not :(
vital tapir
i think my record vs than is like 31-0
twilit lodge
I want to say there's a thing for running away because you're low on health/too ...
When you’ve just started, zag has a line about not being able to heal
Once he’s at low Hp
dusky cypress
mentioned it a few times already but damn it feels nice to fight a soulcatcher miniboss and realize after you kill it that there's only 0-2 instead of like, 8-12 like the first time you (or at least I, because I sucked) fought it lol
need to make a gif or find a vid to show it properly but god it moves so slow
can it even really enter the circle before the wave despawns if you have the greater consecration?
also upon second playthrough I'd like to say that the consecration does effect/slow down our kamikaze-chariots so you can add those to the list of semi-notable inclusions :p not sure if it applies to the big beefy tanky boiis but still
also the decoy-souls in elysium are kind of annoying for middle management benefits package/bp?
also the soulcatcher teleporting across the room sorta freaked me tf out first time I saw it ngl ._.
twilit lodge
also the decoy-souls in elysium are kind of annoying for ~~middle management~~ b...
That’s the Popper perk I believe and yeah it’s annoying. Hard to make sure you got the right one killed
dusky cypress
yep that double edge-arthur run literally took like not even a minute on thes+aster (it also helps that I have the +200% damage on backstab attacks which I honestly think is a perfectly fine/good perk even if its not double strike/minotaur/vicious skewer/etc.)
actually I also hardly took damage that fight either and here I was worried about taking the cyclops jerky over hydragold lol
I mean getting to this point insinuates I'll probably never need/really get much use out of it but damn is that a toasty after-party lol
I feel like its kind of overkill when I'm going into hades on an arthur build and over 1k health (w/ the 3 DDs left)
lean timber
hint: fake souls will be tinted purple and have a lighter shading
vital tapir
popper really sucks with chill bc it removes the pink layer so you can’t tell which is which at all
dusky cypress
hint: fake souls will be tinted purple and have a lighter shading
is this sarcasm or...
lean timber
nope
dusky cypress
also I'd say rama is easy but I just got an extremely-memey build and absolutely cruised through that
yeah I know but that's the thing I noticed only immediately after taking half a second to go "this is different" when I was taking damage from attacking the shade and seeing "oh its pink/explosive"
dusky cypress
disregarded stygian guard entirely but I think it has a niche but potentially extremely useful edge case (is that an edge case? that's an awfully large edge) for asphodel
that's kind of neat
its a mark of a previously failed run (actually I guess since I've heard you don't get new diamonds/titan blood/etc. between... I think the number was 21-31 heat? its for those too) but defeating a boss that doesn't give you anything new but still gives you darkness also gives you the +5 healthup for being a chamber reward
mint coral
Doesn’t seem to be any acknowledgment of it by the game though
There is a win message called "Robbed Thanathos"
lean timber
no there isn't you're gaslighting him
dusky cypress
obv could've been a 7:00 timer instead judging by the 3 DDs left but still... dang
I've gotten stubborn defiance 3 times now which seems kind of nice (75 hp/the course of a minute) but not once with it have I actually ran out of DDs lol
dusky cypress
kind of funny that I barely used the shared-damage gimmick of the rama bow
somehow the rail of adamant (? w/e) got even cooler
dusky cypress
huh
2nd ramas bow run I played super sloppily, lost all three DDs before styx t&a but pool had kiss of death (I actually fought them w/o any but felt decently confident with another triple shot + close range run) and I ended up fighting hades w/ 270 health and 1 DD... only took 90 damage tho
dusky cypress
woah
not good (or at least everyone keeps saying I know nothing about dps) but slowing projectiles w/ arthur special + athena dash feels whack (slow down to projectiles to almost nothing then you can reflect them whenever you get a moment)
so is arthur considered to be on the same level of tank-y-ness as shield runs?
terse geyser
can shield block (as a matter of course) more than 125 damage?
if so, arthur isn't as tanky
lean timber
can shield block (as a matter of course) more than 125 damage?
if so, arthur isn...
shield does not even check the amount of damage on block
so it's infinite
dusky cypress
I was gonna say that it appears to be infinite (I mean idk what does more than hades giant sweep unless you take that giant sweep after taking 3 skulls to the face)
so like, ofc nothings on the shields level, but...
from my two playthroughs it seems like you really need to foul it something fierce in order to not escape w/ arthur
(or just not catch onto the "dash-attack a lot" thing)
does plume bonus go away if you switch off? I feel like that's a ridiculous question but I still want to ask
dusky cypress
sad
not that sad because even a full run can only ever get... idk 33% from it? still
lean timber
you could theoretically get high 50s with it if you used it for the entire run
which
isn't a great strategy at heat
high island
It's actually a pretty good strategy at high heat.
terse geyser
so it's infinite
I didn't ask how much it can block
I asked how much it blocks during the course of normal use in a (probably-fairly-aggressive) run
lean timber
well during an aggressive run it blocks probably like 250 damage max
during a defensive run you could block like 1000+ i would think
terse geyser
well during an aggressive run it blocks probably like 250 damage max
that's still a heck of a lot tankier than arthur
dusky cypress
starting to wonder what the hell aggressive runs look like if your estimate really is 250 damage blocked.... armored enemies and bosses (utterly obliterated as they become) still exist
lean timber
250 is extremely generous
really good runners that simply get the boons™️ can take zero block damage and it's pretty cool to watch
lots of buttons tho
high island
You don't need to block if enemies die as they spawn and bosses phase before they can attack.
rustic vale
can shield block (as a matter of course) more than 125 damage?
if so, arthur isn...
Shield can block all the damage though?
Oh
Your question got clairified later
dusky cypress
I think I'm gonna welcome 2x approval process solely so I don't keep ending up with e.g. bow runs that all have triple shot
high island
I mean you can just take something else.
rustic vale
that statement hurt my brain
you’re going to use ap2 so that your bow runs don’t get triple shot? Wtf
dusky cypress
kind of hard to look at something and go "this is what I want" and purposely cripple myself because at least its not vanilla/standard even though it'll take forever to kill anything
high island
Twin Shot better anyway.
dusky cypress
I mean I'm building up towards high(er) heat anyways so eventually, yeah
rustic vale
you’re going to use ap2 so that your bow runs don’t get triple shot? Wtf
Have I read your message correctly?
dusky cypress
its probably an insane coincidence but p sure I've had ap1 past three
thought process still there but I was gonna say "my last three bow runs have had it" (first two rama runs then a exagriff) and realized "wait that's an exagriff aspect"
rustic vale
Ap1 isn’t going to guarantee you get triple shot 
dusky cypress
no I was gonna say so I don't get triple shot
its just... idk. Feels really easy/played out already
same feeling like doing more shield runs would have rn
rustic vale
I have no clue what the hell you are saying at this point
It’s english but none of the logic is following
dusky cypress
past two bow runs and the exagriff run I did just now
I got triple shot
and it killed everything quite quickly and efficiently
high island
Perhaps you should just play at much higher heat than you're playing at now to get more of a challenge.
rustic vale
Rather than forcing yourself into ap2 go for a higher heat difficulty from elsewhere
also was it triple bomb or triple beam of exagryph?
high island
Well, AP2 is one way to increase the difficulty, but it also simplifies the decision making a lot.
rustic vale
Well, AP2 is one way to increase the difficulty, but it also simplifies the deci...
Ap2 is the real way to get high rta runs 
💀
high island
Ap2 is the real way to get high rta runs <:shadesmile:520447982727069737> <:shad...
Do you mean low?
dusky cypress
also was it triple bomb or triple beam of exagryph?
beam, although I saw triple bomb as well at what was... you know idk if that decision was with the "100% beam damage ramp-up" or the 1st hammer where I got triple beam
rustic vale
beam, although I saw triple bomb as well at what was... you know idk if that dec...
See it would’ve made way more sense to me if you had said triple bomb right there
The fact that you “steamrolled” enemies with triple beam not bomb luci is
showing that you need to turn up the heat in other ways
to me
that’s what my first thoughts are anyways
dusky cypress
idk it felt fast
I mean p sure minotaur was < a minute too
am I not supposed to be sitting on top of enemies w/ the bow/rail or smthn
rustic vale
not supposed to be sitting on top enemies with triple beam luci lmfao
It’s a good indicator to turn your heat to the sky
high island
not supposed to be sitting on top enemies with triple beam luci lmfao
Why not?
raw herald
Triple beam can’t shotgun anyway
rustic vale
I am a monkey with a keyboard
raw herald
omg Bloons reference
high island
Triple beam can’t shotgun anyway
Yeah, but just keep pushing and bullying them with Tidal Dash. 
rustic vale
Yeah, but just keep pushing and bullying them with Tidal Dash. <:dusa:5222487714...
Tempest strike*
stable dagger
daily reminder to praise the greatest goddess in the pantheon Artemis the goddess of the hunt
rustic vale
daily reminder to praise the greatest goddess in the pantheon Artemis the goddes...
M
True
terse geyser
Shield doesn't just block anyway, Bull-Rush is invincible.
yes, that's how you block during runs
terse geyser
daily reminder to praise the greatest goddess in the pantheon Artemis the goddes...
consider the greatest goddess of the pantheon Artemis the goddess of the hunt... praised
hard viper
tried charon bossfight a second time
still lost but he had only 25% hp left instead of 75% lol
rich gulch
daily reminder to praise the greatest goddess in the pantheon Artemis the goddes...
Man found inexplicably dead in his home. The cause of death seems to be a ruptured heart. Investigators are still searching for possible causes as to what might have led to such a grisly demise..
livid crescent
agh, a hammer, a hermes, and a chaos gate. which one???
rustic vale
agh, a hammer, a hermes, and a chaos gate. which one???
Chaos imo
The game will try to give you hammer and hermes again
Wait where are you?
What biome
livid crescent
elysium, i chose hammer. i missed a hammer for chaos already once
rustic vale
elysium, i chose hammer. i missed a hammer for chaos already once
You can’t really miss a hammerd
Are you running dark foresight?
rustic vale
You can’t really miss a hammerd
Game will try to give you hammer and hermes again I think
livid crescent
can you get a hammer in stage 4?
livid crescent
which is dark foresight? the reroll door rewards? i've got reroll boon/charon choices
mint coral
Df is opposite of olympian favor
rustic vale
which is dark foresight? the reroll door rewards? i've got reroll boon/charon ...
The one that makes gold laurels more likely
mint coral
+20% for gold laurel rooms
rustic vale
so more boons, hammers, obols and hearts > darkness, gemstones, keys and gifts
The opposing mirror upgrade to +40% rare chance
livid crescent
ah, nah i got rare chance
latent moon
elysium, i chose hammer. i missed a hammer for chaos already once
you technically can't "miss" a hammer since you can only have a maximum of 2 upgrades at the same time. you can only get a third if you buy an anvil in styx. same goes with hermes for this
livid crescent
you technically can't "miss" a hammer since you can only have a maximum of 2 upg...
well i'm going into elysium boss with 1 hammer and 1 hermes, so???
latent moon
there's a decent chance you'll find at least one of them in styx
livid crescent
for purchase?
latent moon
room or purchase
i mean i've finished a run with only 1 hermes before lmao
and i had 2 hammers going into styx
i don't want to say 100% because idk if it actually is
well yeah
but i had 1 hermes going into styx and wasn't offered it at all
so im not gonna say anything is 100%
does it not
i'd assume it would effect the tunnels
mint coral
You can get it with 0 hammers
latent moon
fresh file moment?
mint coral
For the question if can get anvil with 1 hammer
It doesnt
Cant buy it
Doesnt let you
You can check it on fresh file before hermes/hammers is unlocked
latent moon
Did you know that your like 4th run is c1 herm
tmw hermes gives you hyper sprint c1 and you get rd in asphodel
what
i'm just saying i got rd in aspho lmao
livid crescent
ok, so you can get a hammer in a tunnel, which I don't think i've seen before. and hermes replaced the anvil in shop
but this run is doomed anyways 😦
random aspen
the inability to reroll hammers is going to drive me insane.
I just want triple bomb
latent moon
it do be like that
livid crescent
is there something specific i need to do to get sisyphus chibi
rustic vale
is there something specific i need to do to get sisyphus chibi
Max their friendship like all the other chibi’s no?
or am I remembering wrong
livid crescent
yea but his last heart has been locked forever
livid crescent
oh, lol I have to speak to bouldy
rustic vale
oh, lol I have to speak to bouldy
Giving him gifts gives you buffs
livid crescent
i rememebr the interaction where sisyphus told me to talk to bouldy, but I didn't get he meant like literally interact with it. i thought zag was gonna say something on his own as part of the interaction
terse geyser
my luci is level 1
latent moon
Triple bomb still isn't bad for nonluci aspects
random aspen
I like running it on eris
latent moon
Rocket and cluster are still better and taking triple locks out cluster but triple is still a good pick
random aspen
I do prefer rocket and cluster, but idk it was more the principle.
hadn't seen it in almost 10 runs lol
terse geyser
does hazard lock out of cluster
signal aspen
hazard clockets
terse geyser
triple hazard would slap
mint coral
Cluster hazard rockets
random aspen
is hazard good? I always avoid it because I feel like I'd blow myself up
signal aspen
its pretty good
mint coral
Best eris hammer fr
signal aspen
fr
terse geyser
is hazard good? I always avoid it because I feel like I'd blow myself up
just don't walk in the blast
unless it's convenient
but yes, damage is good
signal aspen
iframe the explosion
random aspen
noted. maybe I'll try it
signal aspen
git gud
latent moon
Skill issue
rustic vale
Me when dio cast doesn’t inflict hangover
signal aspen
no
latent moon
heck yeah buddy
rustic vale
does the brief stun still count as a status condition lol
Is not a status curse no
latent moon
guess not
rustic vale
It’s like decay
Or maim
It’s affecting the enemy
But isn’t a status curse
Who decided that killing freeze would scale so hard
With rarity
brisk trail
I’m a new player kinda. I’m gonna start playing on ps5. I played before years ago on switch. Does anyone have tips?
swift inlet
Dash strike
signal aspen
win
rustic vale
Keep your own hp above 0 while lowering the enemies hp to 0
twilit lodge
Kil and do not be kil
umbral parrot
I’m a new player kinda. I’m gonna start playing on ps5. I played before years ag...
You are invincible during dashes!
twilit lodge
Guan eww disliking is based
rustic vale
Guan eww disliking is based
No it isn’t 
umbral parrot
Guan yu bad
latent moon
skill issue
umbral parrot
rustic vale
Guan yu bad
Skill issue
dusky solar
I’m a new player kinda. I’m gonna start playing on ps5. I played before years ag...
if you enter a mid shop theres sometimes a floating bag of money, its literally just a free 300 obol you should take it
rustic vale
Stella*Stella
latent moon
if you enter a mid shop theres sometimes a floating bag of money, its literally ...
TRUE
umbral parrot
if you enter a mid shop theres sometimes a floating bag of money, its literally ...
No
Dont do this
rustic vale
if you enter a mid shop theres sometimes a floating bag of money, its literally ...
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
latent moon
literally free
rustic vale
Can confirm
umbral parrot
It is a fight with charon that you will not win
dusky solar
absolutely free money
signal aspen
if you enter a mid shop theres sometimes a floating bag of money, its literally ...
yes
signal aspen
It is a fight with charon that you will not win
no
latent moon
freest 300 gold of your life
latent moon
It is a fight with charon that you will not win
sounds like a you issue tbh
rustic vale
Charon will give you free obols because he’s your brother and wants to support you
signal aspen
what fight with charon
latent moon
exactly
signal aspen
no such thing
latent moon
idk what kind of game you're running but it ain't Hades by sgg
dusky solar
also guan yu is based as hell tbh
latent moon
special spam gaming
rustic vale
also guan yu is based as hell tbh
👍👍👍
latent moon
time to do a gy run
rustic vale
time to do a gy run
dusky solar
guan yu'd be better of the heal was on its strike instead of its swipe like the way cursed blade works but its worth because while it is slow it hits like a truck
latent moon
or dont use the spin and spam the special lol
signal aspen
guan yu'd be better of the heal was on its strike instead of its swipe like the ...
it would be good if it worked on dash strike since you dont really use the normal attack
latent moon
got lernie taxed 😔 rip 2 dds
jade sinew
I think I’ll be able to beat hades in god mode with this
And you guys were right shackle is insane, I didn’t expect double damage
twilit lodge
Imagine shackles
rustic vale
Imagine shackles
Imagine dragons
rustic vale
And you guys were right shackle is insane, I didn’t expect double damage
I’m always correct
latent moon
damn i got skill issued with guan yu
rustic vale
damn i got skill issued with guan yu
Smh
latent moon
arty flourish is cringe
rustic vale
At least you don’t dislike the most based weapon due to your skissue
latent moon
it's pretty fun tbh
rustic vale
Unlike some people
latent moon
i mean i dont like guan yu that much compared to others but out of all the spears i like it the most
twilit lodge
Not the inferno bomb flame wheels again
latent moon
and i dont like spear to begin with lmao
rustic vale
arty flourish is cringe
Shackle flourish>>> arte flourish
Does guan-yu take splash dash?
signal aspen
no you want blade dash
rustic vale
Good point
twilit lodge
Me when beo doesn’t oneshot dad like everyone promised 
rustic vale
Me when beo doesn’t oneshot dad like everyone promised <:SCWangery:8538901571984...
Skill issue
Literally
latent moon
sounds like you didn't get epic rd with 5 ichors
dusky solar
i still dont understand- for extreme measures 2 why do you use meg on champions instead of hydra?
i feel like with CP it could be a viable strat
dusky solar
Not the inferno bomb flame wheels again
if i ever see a speeder dc fo2 flame wheel again im gonna cry
swift inlet
i still dont understand- for extreme measures 2 why do you use meg on champions ...
Lernie heads can be easily blasted down, champipns have more health + do more damage and waste more time
Lernie heads also move a lot so lining up meg on them is super inconsistent
dusky solar
i guess that makes sense
twilit lodge
Use mort on second set of heads 🧠
dusky solar
also with cp the unshielded period of theseus is kinda too small to not meg it
twilit lodge
Probably not with DC tho
swift inlet
Yeah dc is annoying for meg
You just have to wait until they use whatever their movement ability is before hitting them with her
twilit lodge
Like my status if you enjoy megging
dusky solar
they really should make fp work on full health targets instead of untouched targets
i dont mind cp at all but i really wish it didnt nullify fp
dusky solar
not cp dc
rustic vale
Use antos to instaphase lernie
swift inlet
Otherwise fp wouldn't be on high heat
dusky solar
nah i think its nullified by dc, right?
swift inlet
Imagine having issues with lernie lmao
The only issue with lernie is the heads slamming the ground 57 times
And hiding in the lava
The lernie tax strikes again
dusky solar
i never had any issues with lernie.
and then i turned on fo2
twilit lodge
Headslam x9572
swift inlet
Fo2 is fine on lernie and only annoying because of trans lernie
dusky solar
trans lernie?????
swift inlet
Every other head does it like a max of 3 times
dusky solar
WHERE
twilit lodge
It’s not even trans lernie
swift inlet
Trans lernie is headbangin so hard he's at a metal concert
twilit lodge
Blue and light blue ain’t the trans colors smh
dusky solar
oh you mean the blue one
swift inlet
Yes that's trans lernie
Community name not mine
I call him a long string of expletives
dusky solar
the real trans icon is the white axolotl in minecraft
twilit lodge
Petition to call that lernie “eGirl lernie”
I like the lernie head that sort of looks like an axolotl
lean timber
axe oh lot ole
swift inlet
Pink is the most generic egirl color there is
swift inlet
Petition to call headslam hellspawn a long string of expletives
twilit lodge
SMH it didn’t even embed the right one
swift inlet
Incredi
rustic vale
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/9/93/Bone_Hydra_Blue...
Colourblind
It’s at the tip of the horns
twilit lodge
That’s not pink my dude
The base and tip are the same blue and the middle of the horn is lighter/more cyan blue
rustic vale
SMH no /j moment
/j is cringe
twilit lodge
Cringe is /j
lean timber
slash jay
lean timber
approximately
latent moon
Yeah there's not really any pink for trans lernie but we call it trans lernie because it's close enough
Maybe it looks more pink in game with all the magma around it lol
livid crescent
which is better for ares boon: black metal(wider area) vs engulfing vortex(longer duration and pull foes in)?
twilit lodge
If you have hunting blades, engulfing
If you don’t, ~~why tf don’t you?~~black metal will probably help more with actually accomplishing damage with the cast
livid crescent
i've never gotten hunting blades. I have ares cast on beowuif
twilit lodge
And if you’re not using ares cast those are both kinda mid
lean timber
i've never gotten hunting blades. I have ares cast on beowuif
lmao
twilit lodge
That sounds either extremely dank or extremely awful
latent moon
i've never gotten hunting blades. I have ares cast on beowuif
Take engulfing then
livid crescent
lol, yeah idk its easy to shoot the blade rift past them sometimes, still getting used to it
twilit lodge
Does blizzard shot work with beo?
I could see it being unironically based if the shards hit the target point blank
livid crescent
i have freezing vortex duo
twilit lodge
Sadly that’s not a very strong cast duo
livid crescent
ah well, i needed it to check off my fates list at least
twilit lodge
True
latent moon
Does blizzard shot work with beo?
Doubt it
Freezing vortex on beo works well enough lmao
So does slicing flare on its own
rustic vale
i've never gotten hunting blades. I have ares cast on beowuif
Ares cast on beowulf
rustic vale
So does slicing flare on its own
Oh actually?
latent moon
I did 40 heat on it without mirage lol
rustic vale
I figure it charges call well and that’s it but idk what I’m talking about
latent moon
No mirage no freezing vortex, just slicing flare
Idk if I had good Hermes or chaos either
Gimme a sec
rustic vale
No mirage no freezing vortex, just slicing flare
That sounds unfun idk
latent moon
latent moon
So I got pretty decent rng I guess lmao
latent moon
If the vortex sits in place where it pops
It goes out a bit
twilit lodge
Normal casting ares cast tho
rustic vale
Normal casting ares cast tho
flare is big and lasts for like 0.5 seconds
latent moon
Oh
twilit lodge
Sails past things in 0.01 seconds
latent moon
It doesn't travel fast either
rustic vale
I was joking about how long flare lasts but it is really short duration
latent moon
You have to undershoot the cshot compared to other flares
twilit lodge
Imagine glacial glare on ares cast
And then stop imagining it because that sounds bad
rustic vale
Imagine glacial glare on ares cast
??????
latent moon
That'd be terrible because you want the cast back lol
rustic vale
That'd be terrible because you want the cast back lol
Nah just run it with stygian
latent moon
Tier 2 boon for stygian sounds awful
Don't get me wrong tho
Slicing flare is probably like bottom half of flares
But it's not as bad as it seems lmao
twilit lodge
True and without this hypothetical ares cast compatible glacial glare, blades expire on their own nearly as quick as Stygian
But would be cute
latent moon
i should rank the beo flares lmao
latent moon
- Flood flare. self explanitory
- Passion flare. beeg damage, PS with snurst funny
- Trippy flare. beeger damage, has bugs, needs actual rng tho
- Hunter's flare. access to mirage is cute i guess, heart rend is also funny
- Divine(?) flare. idk probably just moderate damage, nothing fancy
- Slicing flare. kinda funny and not terrible but also pretty terrible
- Frost flare. bad pom scaling and the flare delay kinda wack
- Thunder flare. mirage dont work on it lmao
actually i should switch slicing and frost lol
rustic vale
1. Flood flare. self explanitory
2. Passion flare. beeg damage, PS with snurst f...
Divine flsre should be #1 because Meowulf
latent moon
divine flare needs the same amount of rng as ME on a melee aspect lmao
just instead of ddash you need the flare
and since you should start with flare, you wont have as many poms on doom
rustic vale
and since you should start with flare, you wont have as many poms on doom
Don’t need the poms on doom
Poms go on flare 🧠
latent moon
but then it's bad MEowulf
twilit lodge
Gotta get that free one doom pop
latent moon
every ME is one doom pop really
could get 2 in a row with beo if you have ddash lol
dash strike into doom cshot divine flare
twilit lodge
But dash based ME is multiple rapid pops
latent moon
dash strike into doom cshot divine flare
i want to point out that this requires 3 of athena's cores lmao
and then you'd ideally want impending
this sounds terrible lmfao
latent moon
true
twilit lodge
Just a rare bonus
livid crescent
so pure RNG? not affected by any gear, boons, etc?
rustic vale
General consensus yes
Not general consensus just fact I believe
I’m fairly certain it’s a straight 10% chance but I might just remember wrong
vital tapir
5%
twilit lodge
Any%
lean timber
it is 10%
it should be a 60%/65%/70% chance if you have ocean's bounty in my opinion
that would be really swell i think
even more powerful in endgame
rustic vale
I want to use runs that use pos to justify taking oceans bounty more often because
Darkness grinding
for resource director
lean timber
bows besides hera:
rustic vale
I will use pos cast hera next
because hera is discount beo
So clearly pos cast is good
twilit lodge
Tell us how it goes
twilit lodge
Electric shot Hera
rustic vale
I’m never going to subject myself electric shot anything
twilit lodge
Zeus on every core challenge
rustic vale
Zeus on every core challenge
True then I don’t need to focus on electric shot
twilit lodge
Zeus on every core challenge but you must only Pom the cast
Or the dash
Jolted allowed but no Poms
rustic vale
Zeus on every core challenge but you must only Pom the cast
That’s just stoopid
twilit lodge
When the tart hammer is in the shop 
rustic vale
Think you mean hammerless
rustic vale
When the tart hammer is in the shop <:FeelsBadMan:397499094727262218>
You can see it again in asphodel or ely
I mean boonless is indeed doable
But they were talking about hammers
Unless I’m missing something
vital tapir
you can even see a hammer in the styx chambers if you only have one at that point
jolted carried
twilit lodge
livid crescent
damn gilgamesh is ez mode, just hold dash and attack
rustic vale
I mean it’s doable just annoying
rustic vale
you can even see a hammer in the styx chambers if you only have one at that poin...
Or 0 at that point
It’s just
Annoying
twilit lodge
Clockets obv
I would take aphro
Smair smh
Heart rend
Sweet nectar
Which is not super important
brisk trail
why does sword have to have the most garbage hammers 
twilit lodge
To be fair “most garbage” is a very close race for hammers
Sword just happens to have like 1 more detrimental hammer than the rest
signal aspen
sword has a couple of hammers that actively hurt you
vital tapir
yea
twilit lodge
Hades but they removed all the bad hammers
twilit lodge
Sounds like fair rng at that point
brisk trail
short glen
Contemplating buffing the sword hammers that don't apply to dash strike so that they still don't apply to dash strike but they do enough to make standing strike worth it
Arthur becomes amazing is likely a side effect of that, but as it's my favorite weapon in the entire game I don't mind
livid crescent
how do I get bond forged with dusa? i have maxed her hearts, full romance, did the favor of fixing the lounge, i have her companion...
oh god do I need to max the companion now too
rustic vale
how do I get bond forged with dusa? i have maxed her hearts, full romance, did ...
maxxing her hearts should’ve done the trick no? Or more dialogue
twilit lodge
Dusa bond taking forever for me
signal aspen
explosive fire
signal aspen
dusa is notorious for having a hard bond to forge
rustic vale
Explosive fire is good if you have spreadfire
twilit lodge
Maxed hearts entirely
signal aspen
spread fire too yeah
twilit lodge
I want my ambrosia back from her
signal aspen
but those dont count as rail hammers
livid crescent
i have maxed her hearts for ages. seems like its bugged
twilit lodge
Rude asf
twilit lodge
What’s your highest?
signal aspen
What’s your highest?
mine is 6
signal aspen
ok then take distant memory
brisk trail
my highest is 13
twilit lodge
I tagged you in #h1-victory-boasting when I did 16 so you’d shut up
short glen
My highest is 32
twilit lodge
Develop the hit game Hades™️ and only then will your opinion become valid
rustic vale
do 64 heat and then your opinion will matter
Based
rustic vale
My highest is also 32
short glen
Got it on second attempt lmao
signal aspen
nice
short glen
Power of Just Get The Boons
twilit lodge
But what we can all agree on
rustic vale
but I cleared 32 using shackle so I think I’m the best
signal aspen
But what we can all agree on
distant memory is the best keepsake
twilit lodge
Is he wants aphro keepsake next
signal aspen
distant memory is the best keepsake
shackle bestest keepsake agrees that distant memory is the best keepsake
rustic vale
You want smair on your zeus call do
signal aspen
not if youre on controller
lean timber
trinkets and knickknacks and doodads
twilit lodge
Gewgaws
signal aspen
i love that song
twilit lodge
Bric a brac
short glen
but I cleared 32 using shackle so I think I’m the best
Is this a challenge?
lean timber
i hate the damn zeus call i cannot lie
twilit lodge
Tchotchkes
lean timber
it sucks
short glen
i hate the damn zeus call i cannot lie
Same
signal aspen
why
twilit lodge
It’s based for the iframes if nothing else
rustic vale
i hate the damn zeus call i cannot lie
You’re lying
twilit lodge
Aphro call based also
signal aspen
why
short glen
Not sure
short glen
Aphro call is really funny against hades ngl
signal aspen
it doesnt really matter ares call best call
twilit lodge
Aphro call is really funny against hades ngl
Very very
Smair gaming chain charm your dad
(Step)dad let’s stop fighting ok??
lean timber
You’re lying
no i hate it you're completely vulnerable and on hera it defeats the purpose of the bow's range and when it kills something and you miss your shot have fun picking up ur cast and then the stupid call range doesn't hit anything and it kills like one enemy max i HATE ZEUS CALL!!
SMAIR SUCKS WITH ZEUS CALL
signal aspen
literally the best call for smair
signal aspen
no i hate it you're completely vulnerable and on hera it defeats the purpose of ...
sound like skill
issu
e
signal aspen
me too i hate seus call
zeus call is good tho
i didnt even know dr seuss had a call
raw herald
he has a hat
solar oriole
He has a cat
rich gulch
His call summons the Cat which bonks your enemies for 2500 damage a pop and leaves them stunned.
signal aspen
that would be really good
if only something like that was in the game
i think so
idk
hopefully
twilit lodge
Yep you can scum her it’s pretty based sometimes
Nope
Maybe if you only have two it can hit idk
But I’ve gotten her to hit different things with ambrosi and Pom
Don’t dash to her
lean timber
antos
rustic vale
Tidal doesn’t care about rarity
twilit lodge
Do your casts and walk
Obv dash over the wall
Rip
It works I guarantee
Maybe just same results due to rng tomfoolery
Try it with Pom and maybe it’ll be easier to see different results
Well you can just quit
I meant if you’re doubting it works in general
rustic vale
I don’t think so
twilit lodge
Maybe you need to do the casts while she’s on screen idk
I remember it being finicky before but I’ve always been able to get it eventually to give me what I want
Or at least one boon I wanted
rustic vale
Rng is just
You always need to cast once more than the last
Which one?
Those are all partially gaming
i love flurry fire on demeter strike zag rail
If I don’t have spreadfire
I inderstand that
⛄
twilit lodge
Yes
latent moon
Ap2 is fun
dusky cypress
I seriously need to learn to use minor calls lol
idk if its even that good but dang I got AP1'd lol
also damn saw I missed a fishing spot as I started the "next room" animation smh
probably missed a ton of those + a ton of infernal caches w/ a decent chance to be darkness that I could still actually use but w/e
livid crescent
is ares aid the absolute worst call?
latent moon
Yes
dusky cypress
I think I take it the absolute least
livid crescent
how a god a war gonna be so bad at fighting
latent moon
If it's the last boon before you go to dad fight and the last 2 aren't useful then it's good for an "oh crap" button for invincibility
rich gulch
But the cost of becoming the Beyblade of your dreams is priceless.
latent moon
idk if its even that good but dang I got AP1'd lol
https://imgur.com/a/veOSJA2
It's not bad if you're constantly applying weak
dusky cypress
I don't think I've used the normal charm
latent moon
The "normal charm" is aphros call
cyan anvil
one thing i want to know about hades is, for some games when you buy them in early access or smth you get additional content or smth does hades have this same kind of thing?
latent moon
No
cyan anvil
good to know
latent moon
The only benefit of early access was giving the devs feedback and seeing it get changed in game if the idea was good
dusky cypress
The "normal charm" is aphros call
no I meant non-fully charged call
cyan anvil
The only benefit of early access was giving the devs feedback and seeing it get ...
ok i need an opinion from you alright, my birthday is coming up right and im thinking should i buy hades or dead cells?
dusky cypress
I just hardly ever remember to use them because I'm too busy dash-striking or whatever
I feel like daedalus hammer is a meme
when do you not pick up a daedalus hammer when the options present?
latent moon
ok i need an opinion from you alright, my birthday is coming up right and im thi...
You're asking the hades server if you should buy hades or another game lmao
I haven't played dead cells so I can't really have an opinion on this tho
cyan anvil
You're asking the hades server if you should buy hades or another game lmao
I ha...
im in both the servers but i dont know where to ask because each server will be biased
dusky cypress
LMAO I revealed unhealthy fixation and it got AP1'd again
its probably not that funny but wow that's something
latent moon
I feel like daedalus hammer is a meme
when do you *not* pick up a daedalus ham...
I skip it sometimes in ely for the other option because ik it'll show up again on the next door
For tart or aspho I generally always pick it unless there's chaos, midshop, or miniboss
In ely it's very likely to see the hammer multiple times because of how "the bag" works iirc
So if it's Zeus vs hammer in ely and I don't have jolted or have a chance at splitting, I'll take Zeus over the hammer unless it's like the third hammer I would skip
rustic vale
LMAO I revealed unhealthy fixation and it got AP1'd again
Just stop running ap1 for a bit to get it for prophecy lol
twilit lodge
also damn saw I missed a fishing spot as I started the "next room" animation smh
You can pause and quit while the screen is going black
As long as you do it before the next room starts to load in you can then reload and get your fishing spot/choose different door etc
dusky cypress
oh really? nice
also I thought the game didn't save runs even though yes I paid attention + remember the "this symbol on screen means we saved" lol
ehh
twilit lodge
Also yeah until you finish your boon prophecies ap1 is a bad idea
dusky cypress
I'll reveal it several more times + I think I still have like 6 legendary boons for the prophecy
twilit lodge
Ap1 in general is horrible and not recommended until you have no other way to raise heat
dusky cypress
I'm in no rush
twilit lodge
I believe
rustic vale
What heat are you at?
dusky cypress
ok that's a lie I'm still doing deadlines 1 xd
basically nothing but practicing ig? currently heat 5 w/ fists
rustic vale
ok that's a lie I'm still doing deadlines 1 xd
basically nothing but practicin...
Having ap1 on while still at td1
Use other heat options your pyschopath
twilit lodge
Ap1 is way too much of a headache to use at 5 heat imo
latent moon
Isn't there the heat prophecy
twilit lodge
There is
latent moon
I mean he could be getting that done rn
twilit lodge
And once he finishes this run he can take our advice and never run ap1 again
rustic vale
Please for the love of all that is holy use different heat options
latent moon
Don't have much of a choice if you're doing it for prophecy
rustic vale
I don’t think that’s the case
rustic vale
Don't have much of a choice if you're doing it for prophecy <:bouldy:52332911693...
They’ve said ap1’d like it’s happened quite a few times
So I think it’s more than just this run
Am I right?
latent moon
I mean could be multple boons
rustic vale
please say no
dusky cypress
ap2 probably never
ap1 will get removed as soon as I'm doing something worse
yes I know my runs are p much at least td2 because I always end w/ like 7:30 or considerably more
with still picking up e.g. darkness troves
latent moon
Ap1 honestly isn't that bad lol you can get away with surprisingly little stuff
latent moon
I feel like I can still make a p solid build with ap1
This is true
Most builds revolve around like 2 boons
dusky cypress
also I did the mirror one for the prophecy and p sure I'm never using that ever again unless I'm particularly invested in a steam achievement or smthn
rustic vale
I think it’s just unnecessary aggrevation personally
latent moon
3 if you want a duo
latent moon
Also true lmao
snow skiff
i skip 2nd hammer sometimes
rustic vale
I skip all hammers sometimes
snow skiff
ur mom
rustic vale
i skip 2nd hammer sometimes
Non-arthur sword gaming?
brisk trail
even with arthur you can skip second hammer if u got shadow slash
rustic vale
2nd hammer on regular swords can be a trap
rustic vale
It’s less about the can and more about the why
rustic vale
dedge >> shadow slash arthur though
👍👍👍👍
brisk trail
dedge >> shadow slash arthur though
solar oriole
We talking about hamr
rustic vale
<:_no:920308452750925864>
👎👎👎👎
twilit lodge
We talking about hamr
🔨
dusky cypress
backstab 200% sword is fine I think, but yeah from what I've seen I can imagine the 2nd-hammer-and-I-already-have-cruel-thrust double edge skip even w/o doing 30-40 heat or whatever y'all are on
snow skiff
i tried like 30 times to make shadow slash arthur 54 work and then i switched it to dedge and got it 3rd attempt
rustic vale
Dedge >>>>>>>> shadow slash
twilit lodge
Cruel thrust mid
snow skiff
dash strikes too comfy
rustic vale
backstab 200% sword is fine I think, but yeah from what I've seen I can imagine ...
Cruel thrust is never picked intentionally
brisk trail
the whole point of arthur is to not spam dstrike
rustic vale
the whole point of arthur is to not spam dstrike
Untrue
dusky cypress
oh I'm dumb
snow skiff
attack combo is too clunky and annoying to pull off consistently
twilit lodge
Not necessarily
dusky cypress
read the wrong thing and meant to type double edge whoops
rustic vale
cruel thrust doesn’t apply to dstrikes and you don’t do full combo on normal saord
snow skiff
arthur heat wr uses dedge smh
brisk trail
just because it's good doesnt mean its fun
twilit lodge
Dedge and hoarding strike are the only hammers that work on sword dstrike correct?
rustic vale
100 base damage dstrike > backstab slash
snow skiff
damn that run was juiced wtf
rustic vale
Dedge and hoarding strike are the only hammers that work on sword dstrike correc...
Piercing wave
dusky cypress
read "thrust" on the wiki and thought "hurrdurr that means dash-strike right"
wow I'm tired
snow skiff
2 athena dd bouldy swift strike backstab chaos
dusky cypress
cruel thrust doesn’t apply to dstrikes and you don’t do full combo on normal sao...
typed wrong name/misread wiki
rustic vale
typed wrong name/misread wiki
Just know all the hammers name off the top of your head already mr.new player
twilit lodge
Piercing wave
I feel like there’s one more now that I think about it… one that does extra to armor?
rustic vale
I feel like there’s one more now that I think about it… one that does extra to a...
Breaching slash
+300% to armour applies to dstrikes
twilit lodge
Yeah that works on dstrike too
Based
See and people say there’s no good sword hammers
snow skiff
i mean
twilit lodge
There’s 1 good one and 3 usable ones
snow skiff
breaching slash 
rustic vale
See and people say there’s no good sword hammers
There are good-ish sword hammers and there are so many detrimental/negligible ones
snow skiff
society if flurry slash also tripled sword dps
rustic vale
so second hammer on sword can easily be a trap
rustic vale
~~society if flurry slash also tripled sword dps~~
If it did it might be usable
brisk trail
just use arthur and you don't get trapped
brisk trail
:(
twilit lodge
Gottem lmao
snow skiff
mfw the 2nd hammer is cursed slash or dash nova
rustic vale
just use arthur and you don't get trapped
shadow slash, dash nova, ap1
snow skiff
what are u even looking for in 2nd hammer anyway
twilit lodge
Mfw I anvil into cursed slash world splitter
snow skiff
i'd imagine even a health is better
brisk trail
I didnt take AP into account
rustic vale
not shadow slash, not not cursed slash, meant cursed slash
brisk trail
shadow slash my beloved
twilit lodge
Are you having a stroke?
twilit lodge
Whom’s’t’ve
brisk trail
@snow skiff when you did dedge arthur, did you purely use dstrike and never the cleave?
snow skiff
No
twilit lodge
How come there’s no bathrooms in the underworld
Maybe that’s part of the punishment aspect
snow skiff
Just big boosted dstrikes are better supplemental damage than trying to hit backstab at least imo
twilit lodge
Clever hades
rustic vale
How come there’s no bathrooms in the underworld
They can just die and not have to pee anymore ez
rustic vale
Sims ≠ Hades
twilit lodge
Reroll second Hermes twice and no rd or hyper smh
Shackle nemesis so what else do I need the Rerolls for tbh
Ddash and brilliant riposte putting in work 💪
rustic vale
Shackle nemesis so what else do I need the Rerolls for tbh
Keeping the cores away
latent moon
Purging well to sell cores
rustic vale
Well likepl
If you get forced into attack special cast
You’re gonna want to be able to either reroll it then or reroll well to get it out
twilit lodge
I still have 3 rerolls so I should be fine
Boons being pretty cooperative with giving me passives
latent moon
Maybe instead of boonless shackle beo 40 I should just do shackle beo 40 instead
Maybe that'll be easier
At least I'd benefit from Hermes then
rustic vale
At least I'd benefit from Hermes then
I didn’t realise it was boonless this whole time I just thought no cores 💀
latent moon
Lmao that's why I took authority over persuasion
rustic vale
get mirage shot from tdash and arte aid