#h1-discussion
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Titan blood is only 64 heat (including zero) × 6 weapons = 384 titan blood
384 titan blood
Plus any u trade
you stop getting blood after 20
you stop getting bounties at 20 heat 
Nani?
yah
Damn
you have to trade or buy the rest
That's sad
it's still doable
you'll barely notice it
you get 2 per run
on average
Is it only titan blood that stops?
it's actually 2.58 titan bloods per run on average
NAURRRRR
including fishing + styx purchases
imagine buying in styx
hey man zero heat is fun for that reason + many others
if you trade away ambrosia for titan blood, you can get 3 TB per run, 2 diamonds = 1 ambrosia = 1 TB so every other run is 4 TB
if you just dont care about maxing bonds or contractor upgrades, it won't take too long to max all aspects
(5+15+16+15)*6 = 306 titan blood needed
102 runs without trading diamonds
87.4 runs so 88 if you trade diamonds
grind away and suddenly your aspects are maxed
lol I almost had to use a death defiance on the third floor because I took "infernobombs from defeated enemies for 4 encounters" for +64 max health
yeah caustic is one of the harder curses
imo
especially for 4 encounters
that's ruff
screw it might as well use my steam name
Menlymen moment
Heart of stone?
I mean... first floor caustic should be fine, yeah?
I think I've suffered more overall w/ minus health than caustic tbh but that's also because it was before I started using the mirror and had the +50 base health from that or had any keepsakes
tartarus caustic is harder than asphodel
(first one I had/used for a decent bit was the armor)
consider: numbskulls
yeah the skulls are a much more common enemy
each one becoming a bomb
or just stuff that kind of melts in general
yeah
aspho is okay for caustic but tart and elysium are kind of hard to deal with at times
I mean... if I did this in the future I'd probably be overly cautious and never take more than like 40 damage from it ever again
https://gfycat.com/horribleglossybassethound important tech
but that's not something you should use yet
me when i'm forced to moonwalk to escape the dreadful beast in front of me (he has broken my ankles and i cannot step forward without immense pain)
lmao
not quite
yes very standard
ruthless reflex is not good, you want greater reflex for so many reasons
mobility, more i-frames, speed, etc
third and fourth from bottom should usually be green
and deep pockets is much better
privileged status is hard to take advantage of in most builds, family favorite is more consistent
stygian soul is better than infernal for any aspect that's not building around cast
golden touch is okay at his level. either is fine
two dashes means you can not dash twice as often 👍
the 3rd one from last sucks, it's not worth it. you want dark foresight. it makes your rooms much better and your runs much more powerful
higher chance for boons, poms, hammers, all good stuff
of course, if you need things like keys, gemstones, etc, then feel free to keep it that way. but if you want good runs, foresight is the way to go
only 3 things "wrong" really, but honestly you're fine with anything at this stage. once you push heat/speed, you might want to change them
idk what max starting money amount is but getting +$50-+$120 3 times throughout the run seems p nice
only thing it really seems to help for is if I really want to buy a diamond/titan blood for some reason
maybe the extra damage from boons would help me get there that much faster? only thing that seems to make an insane difference is hammers tho
having a lot of money in tart gives you a needed boost for tight deadline and something to sell for underworld customs
unless I get something nifty like poseidons "crash someone against a wall and deal like 120 extra damage"
yeah that seems v convenient on something I haven't been forced to deal with yet
nothing worse than only have two boons you want to keep and having to sell it at the end of tart except maybe dying to time against the furies
yes i'm aware you haven't done it, i'm explaining the logic behind those recommendations so you have some context. mattyboi did indicate that at your level it's fine either way already
the cash in tart also lets you control your run much better if there's a new god you want in the midshop
Not really, no. This is a pretty good mirror guide: #h1-for-new-players message
i'd suggest dark presence over fiery most of the time
having buying power in tartarus is severely underrated, pact conditions or none
this is not the generally accepted correct strategy. fiery is better in almost all circumstances with the exception of like fist sometimes but even then the breakpoints to just outright kill something on the first hit do matter a lot
like one shotting a numbskull is more important than getting 50% bonus damage for a second
fists uses fiery because the uppercut oneshots stuff in tart i believe
iirc only spear uses backstab?
achilles to be specific
that sounds right and honestly i personally don't use it then either
You can you use fiery with the bow I think
i just always use shadow
you do you man but the question was what is the standard
Same
you're supposed to
most weapons have a big hit that is good to lead with
I hate playing the bow
fwiw casts can't backstab at all so any build that's focused on that definitely wants fiery
Parting shot says hi
parting shot is hardly ever worth shooting for for any castpects
the only one where you might get it is hera
because of passion flare core
and maybe a natural athena, but you dont force her
sounds like it was a mistake to ask because I was already killing stuff w/o enough trouble to actually require me to ask :I oh well
interesting convo tho
why would gathering information be a mistake
because I feel like I got more than I bargained for
Wut
or realizing after reading the first 5 messages that I didn't want the answer (not yet at least)
Well you asked an extremely open ended question
i mean, just because something works doesn't mean it's ideal or good
asks question
doesn't want answer
im looking at the high heat leaderboard and of the top 9 aspect wrs (57 heat and up) only 1 uses fiery presence
realizes he doesn't want answer
what are the aspects
that's v different
that's still counterintuitive
Imagine
you can go further down the list if you want, i doubt you'll see much of anything else
oh does it not
lol
yeah it doesnt
oh man
i figured it would work after getting DC off
because hestia not using fiery doesn't make a lot of sense to me
What dc
the others can work around dc pretty fine
it's the pact that makes enemies immune to the first hit
damage control
Ohh
High Heat is a very different environment from what most players need strategies for.
also that too
You're dealing with very different problems.
running RI means the last 3/6 mirror stuff don't matter lmao
which high heat does use a lot of
esp at 57
so if we go down the leaderboard to before DC what does it look like then
also where did you find this btw i want to take a look myself
seems interesting
very cool
hestia is the one of those nine with fiery but it also has no dc
Gaming
Fiery Presence just simply doesn't do anything at all when you use DC.
yeah hesty shouldn't run dc
Because the first hit always does 0 damage.
Hence Shadow is the default for any runs that use DC.
Not an oversight, they're aware of it.
Hesty dc sounds like suffering incarnate
It's fine tbh.
Although I guess nothing stopping you from popping the dc with normal attacks
amb did hesty dc with lightning strike iirc lmao
Not the manuals
dash boons will help a lot
they're saying it was their oversight, which is why they said that bit about scrolling down the leaderboard with such confidence
Yeah, you just take Lightning Strike or Drunken Strike for DC2.
no i did mean on the dev's part
sounds terrible but not much you can do about it if you're running dc2 lmao
i'll admit i was wrong, i only ever watch high heat runs so i only see shadow presence and assumed it was always preferred
dc2 moment
yep
It's fine. It's rail. You still get bonus damage when reloading manually.
yeah fair
I'm incredibly disappointed in myself rn, I had to use a deaths defiance against a soul catcher miniboss and almost had to use two :I
oh my mistake
np
Dire Soul Catcher can be pretty brutal if your DPS is relatively low and you don't have summons yet.
huh, didn't think of that. Billowing strength (and other post-call effects) work on partial calls too, don't they?
butterfly ball is honestly super terrible to deal with without a summon lmao
yeah
yes
different thing
companion
ye
OH
2500 damage clears the armor up real quick
there are kids here
relax
THINK OF THE CHILDREN
Um, the mods don't like when we evade the swear filter like that, either. 
lmfao
it's a little ironic how puritanical the swear filter is considering the game we're playing
So you can’t swear in a channel that very much should not be for kids because of kids 
Oh well
I think the devs decide who the channel and server should be for. 
i mean the devs can decide whatever they want that doesn't mean it makes sense. i'm just pointing out how incongruent it is within context.
If that's what you want to believe.
It's a relatively simple rule to humor, in any case.
Also true
indeed
there are other games within the server ig even if they see no activity
sad case 💔
i'm sorry, what does "ig" mean?
i guess
i guess
ah thank you
I guess but it’s also not like rules can’t be enforced on a channel to channel basis
Either way it’s doubtful to be changed so no point complaining too much
Well I wasn't planning a protest or something :p
(the bot that controls it)
although i guess it could be fun to visit supergiant
Well yeah if you’re using a bot I guess, sounds like they just need a bunch more moderators 
anybody wanna protest dynobot outside supergiant games? i hear @latent moon is bringing punch and pie
i'm bringing bananas
i dont think bananas are low hanging fruit lmao
rofl
erm bananas are actually herbs! they grow on bushes! 🤓
Cultivated banana plants vary in height depending on the variety and growing conditions. Most are around 5 m (16 ft) tall, with a range from 'Dwarf Cavendish' plants at around 3 m (10 ft) to 'Gros Michel' at 7 m (23 ft) or more. Leaves are spirally arranged and may grow 2.7 metres (8.9 ft) long and 60 cm (2.0 ft) wide.
from wikipedia
😮
Stay on topic. 
oh yeah bananas are berries lmao
my favorite aspect in the game is aspect of guan yu because it looks like a banana hahaha i sure do love guan yu
i think we'll be ok making a quick joke. thanks tho
my sister in hades who hurt you
The conversation had been off-topic for quite awhile now.
if you look closely i even mentioned supergiant games
lmfao
i recall yes
Can you even call discussion about a rule within the server “off-topic”
where do you even discuss such a thing
Oh oops I just started an attempt with the shield
I guess I need the titan blood anyway
(yes this feels like story spoilers, idk if this happens the first time you've beaten him like 10x or what - also happened when I was basically certain I was gonna lose the fight)
ok tagging images as spoilers only works if you can embed them?
It was spoiler marked for me
mannnnnn I know this game is like 5 years old and we're not in #h1-for-new-players but still
yeah but you have to actually open imgur to see it lol
also meekly attempted to attack him anyways lol
just put the link and spoiler tag the link like you did. it works just as well if you need to
also the "its scripted" yeah what isn't
the gameplay
almost every other thing in the game besides story elements
unless you routed it lmao
lmao
i bet you're gonna be complaining real soon about not getting the quote for the hidden aspect lmao
HAHAHAHAAAAA
Huh
😭 🗿
never occurred until just now that I hadn't actually seen a credits roll anywhere yet
I mean... I imagine I'm only like a quarter-of-the-way through the game
I imagined everything as "post-first-hades-kill" as the postgame
still kind of do
Artemis Aid seems like it would be so much stronger if I could actually charge my god gauge 
are you referring to how short regular rooms are?
I guess? But like even on bosses I don’t really get to use it
Guess I need some more boons for it
things that hit a lot are a lot better at charging god gauge
fists, slicing shot, hangover ticks are the best
but artemis' aid is also terrible in general and basically just filler if you didn't find anything better. it's like -fine- if you put a couple poms into it and you can fill it up
or need it for requirements
That first part is the tutorial.

oh meme beams are also good at charging god gauge
Lightning strikes from attacks work well, especially on rail
Artemis' Aid is great.
I mean I also eschewed the mirror entirely, barely knew about aspects + refused to use the shield for my first run (well, if I had oneshot both asterius + theseus and hades it would've been my first completed escape)
oh do i get to be @rustic vale now? sweet
please school me on artemis' aid @high island 🙂
I mean like you said, you just need to put a couple poms on it. Excellent pom scaling.
I do think its basically the easiest weapon but I'm p sure my first run that got to hades was also using minotaur rush (which ofc only gets interrupted if something ambushes you) and all things considered is extremely easy to get consistent with for how much dang damage it does
Like you typically get a boon literally 5 seconds in
oh so the wrong part was suggesting it was only -fine- once you did the work?
Shattered Shackle is more bonus % damage on your Attack than any epic boon even. That's one reason to use it.
sometimes i use it on guan yu to make tart quicker. of course i can't clear anything with guan yu above like 25 so -shrug-
But like, doesn’t it literally stop working once you get a boon?
Yeah, if you just look at pure DPS in a speedrun, you'd want other things. But most cases outside of that, bosses are the main problem. And a pommed Artemis' Aid just lets you skip a lot of that problem.
it still works for your empty slots
It doesn't stop working if you get any boon, it stops working if you get a boon on your atk special or cast. It'll work for your atk if you get a special boon but your special loses the shackle modifier
if you're gonna use lucky tooth you might as well use acorn. it does more.
unless you're dying a lot in normal rooms
Don't sweat it if you don't see a use case for Shattered Shackle yet. It's situationally very good.
I’m not sure I have a acorn
I’ve been playing literally only 2 days
acorn and on occasion hourglass are basically the only keepsakes that in any way compare to the god keepsakes
but that doesn't mean don't use others
Swap to the Lucky Tooth in later regions when you're actually low on DDs. First two biomes you typically want something that helps you get a strong build.
Tooth is good for em2 lernie at high heat because lernie tax
i can't really talk. i routinely avoid using god keepsakes because i don't want to decide on what i'm playing
but the god keepsakes are really what you want in tart and aspho at least if you want to secure a strong build
Wait you still do that?
not nearly as often as i used to
I thought you stopped once you got to higher heats because your builds were actually good lmao
In that case, you'd still want to start with Coin Purse just to buy more boons early to kickstart your build.
Rather than a defensive keepsake like Lucky Tooth.
that's actually exactly what i've been doing when i don't use a god keepsake. because convenience fee has made it hard to get out of tart with enough boons
@jade sinew

occasionally testing with coin purse, especially with convenience fee. like if i don't care what i'm playing i'd rather just have quantity
Lmao fair
Ironically, Coin Purse loses a lot of value if you're using CF.
so apparently they're the easiest but honestly me too still. 400 runs in. so good luck.
Quick reset until you see the gods you want in tart lol
that just goes against the spirit of whatever i'm doing
i donno i make the rules up as i go along
I still don’t see how they can be easier than Megaera
oh no
just easier than the rest
they are harder than meg for sure
the hydra rarely hard stops my runs but the furies do all the time
Most players say Alecto is the hardest and Tis is the easiest of the Furies.
it's either the furies, theseus, or dad like 99%
yeah tis probably jus tmesses me up because i'm sloppy
I’ve died to the hydra only once so far
But tbh Alecto's attacks are for the most part just easier versions of Meg's.
yeah on the "standard mirror build" question I asked earlier more dashes is def better but I think I mostly say that because it negates the necessity of taking a boon (usually the 0.5 second sprint after dashing) to deal with asteriuses charge
You can handle his bull charge just fine with a single dash, in fact.
absolutely
still more strict than sprinting or multiple dashes tho
(yes I know, "why is he such a moron for not just leading him into a wall/pillar")
More dashes just means more i-frames, and it's also better for DPS because mobility and Dash-Strikes.
still feels weird/unintuitive being able to dash through a number of walls tho
You're better off staying between two obstacles and then dashing through Asterius when he comes to you (he'll crash into either obstacle trying to turn around), or get close to an obstacle then dash away at the last moment... rather than dashing through an obstacle because he'll often just go around it and then he's still right behind you.
If you mess up the other methods, at least he's not right behind you because he has to turn around.
Obstacle includes pillars, walls, and King Theseus.
If he hits theseus does Theseus get hurt?
Based Arthur enjoyer
Indeed!
funnest weapon
arther
Tried Arthur sword once and... I just.. idk
don't see the appeal, much like with the spear, but again, haven't gotten into depth with those weapons
the appeal is big sword, big damage, kill boss in 2 seconds
"ironically, gold has less value when it can buy 44% less stuff"

man, I mean I still didn't take a death defiance in asphodel but I really didn't think through tightened security applying to lava ugghh
I mean after the room where I realized it and took like 45 damage just from lava I don't think I took more than one more hit or smthn... aside from saw blades and falling axeheads being 100 damage each I think that's p easy to use on high-heat runs (although I say that not knowing how crazy 20-40 heat runs are yet... idk)
Funny stuff, it affect dad pots too
?!?!??!
Because boons are a scam 
Minotaur rush is cringe because it takes 6 trillion years to charge up
Yes 
Once you get a boon… in that slot
like once you pick up an attack core the bonus goes away for attack
honestly kind of think you're insane if you think that's too long to wait for it
I might be saying that because my builds suck (I don't have that much % in "better boons" from the mirror), but still
Just reset the runs till you get the gods you want 🧠
Hyper sprint is always good 
this is a relatively new player lmao
let them figure out what works
Watit a minute I’m looking at 4 hours ago
your point?
but yeah, in that case let me change "figure out" to "decide"
yeah I was wondering but I also know discord has a tendency to go haywire if you click the message some1 was responding to
?
yeah I'm having a bit of trouble parsing that, myself
I’m confused about your second part of that message
minotaur rush is like .7 seconds iirc + like 300 base damage (well 50 base +500%)
The second part of that statement
Not the minotaur rush part
Minotaur rush ain’t base damage iirc
yes I said "well 50 base+500%"
I know its something weird tho or maybe I had a modifier somewhere? because I went from thinking "its 500" in the first run I got it to the next run it only did like 240 🤷
I would only take it if I had sudden rush and 2nd hammer wasn’t cshot tbh
It is +500%
So 50+500% = 300 any number lower was got without minotaur rush any number higher meant you either crit or had other bonuses on attack
also his pb is 3 min. faster than mine, and his top heat is 2 higher
neato
attack bonuses apply to bull rush?
Yes
probs zag then, huh
Zag bonus doesn’t apply to bull rush
Yes it would
Well
“Full damage”?
It’s increasing the damage you do against people who haven’t been hit yet
so it'd do the +75% all through armor
No
fair enough
Just first hit
I I had to rate minotaur rush compared to other hammers I would put minotaur rush at:
Cshot > ferocious guard > sudden rush > minotaur rush
and honestly if I didn’t have either cshot or sudden rush just probably wouldn’t even pick it up unless I don’t care about the other hammers
If you’re going to stan minotaur rush should probably put artemis attack on it
Nyaanyaa mewmew gonna tell me I’m wrong for this one
pings
note that aphrodite exists
think: what if I could have pstatus for free, with very similar-to-arti average attack damage
When you’re using shackle
Rupture best pstatus
rupture and jolted
best jolt is thunder flourish dash or zeus aid jolt
Since those also open double strike and upwards from their splitting bolt
Expose best pstatus
Rupture jolted best pstatus 🧠
I would not consider myself a new player anymore
Not really
Although shackle over here missing my point entirely cause I specifically didn't know what I wanted to do 😂
Wdym resetting run and rng manip so you can get your god without having to run their keepsake is 4000iq
Ah you were talking about other people not using god keepsakes. Although that means using my 400 runs isn't really justification to Lysol anymore.
you mean funny 4000 damage right?
how
oh right Artemis

I've seen over 8k but only ever manged over 4k myself
you need to max out your favor with all the gods
all the standard olympians, not hermes or chaos
several of them have locks that require some specific dialogue to appear
Is the final ending different from the ending of bringing persephone back?
Yes
you can find it on the wiki but honestly i wouldn't worry about it
just keep doing runs it'll happen
olympians aren't exactly monogomous
besides, i don't know if any of the relationships are exactly dating
idk it didnt feel right
well there are no wrong choices. hades isn't going to turn -everyone- into polyamorous pansexuals i guess
I don't use boons
I do my runs with the shattered shackle
Just like me fr
fr
the only boons I would ever use would be Hermes boons because he's just built different
Hermes really is an awesome person
god actually
he knows everything but keeps it all a secret
i specifically recall being called a psycho for not using god keepsakes
they don't do anything if you don't use boons
so you're psychotic too my dude
and manwell over here
Boonless runs are based and one of the few excuses for not running god keepsakes
Fr fr
omfg i just lost the coolest zagbow run to multiple rooms with fast witches
twinshot arty attack purple ravenous will heroic hunter's mark 😦
spoilers
i know what channel we're in but clearly they don't know yet
use your imagination. besides, we don't know the physiology of gorgon heads
the fact that you don't see a sexual relationship as wholesome says more about you than dusa tbh
Dusa is adorable. Go and simp for Artemis or nyx or smth
i'm not simping for anyone. i'm just saying that it would make sense either way, and being adorable and wholesome do not preclude anyone from sexual relationships. puritanical bs from the hades discord of all places
🗿
is there a guide somewhere for the random emojis? i honestly have no idea what that means and often don't with some of the others.
Smh unvased
unvased
Bouldy is bouldy

indeed
dnc about intimate and sexual relationships in hades
reunite the pantheon
forget the hoes u gotta deal with the greek god family
I meant it as ‘I have no idea what to respond to that’
got it
i didn't really mean actually use your imagination. i just meant the problem of her just being a head was an artificial one that was distracting from my actual point lol
i beat hades for the first time!! GOD I AM GOOD AT THE BOW
Which aspect and time? If I may ask
41 minutes, aspect of chiron
Hmm ok
I've heard good things abt Hera
Though Chiron is definitely nothing to scoff at
Chiron can be scoffed at
It bad zag bow
No crit chance and less arrow on special = worse than zag bow

NyANyA mEwMeW SaiD iT WaS GoOd
hey cut me some slack here i literally just beat the game for the first time
I like fists?
true
I'm still on low heat so it's fine
I like every aspect of every weapon except for the fake ones
Zap fists moment
Spreadfire is literally better heavy knuckle 
AWHHH PERSEPHONE IS SO ADORABLE
i was really trying to make arty fists work
like heavy knuckle concentrated hammer
was not happening
It can work
You don’t need those for arte fists
I tried that with aphro atk lmao
how did it go?
Retrash apparently did heart rend heavy knuckle lmao
Died to dad
Had pretty fat damage per hit tho it's just so slow
it's like worse than ME
Hammers are unnecessary for arte fists
True
Hammers are literally irrelevant
your fists are irrelevant
i find your data dubious without a dps meter. it would be more believable if you didn't have tdash/smair but it's hard to take that statement seriously when you already have two of the other best sources of damage
Sources: I’m making data up
Hard to argue with that assessment
yeah
there are a bunch of options that increase the difficulty and they are worth X amount of heat
oh alright
If you don't increase it you don't get titan blood, diamonds, or ambrosia
heat is just the term for difficulty setting
So you do have to increase it at some point
yeah i got that
yeah of course ill do hear
heat
its just that idk what to start with lol
oh alright then
quick tip for tight deadline since going fast is overwhelming to some people at first. pause the game while making decisions and it helps to take shops since you don't have to clear them to get past them
shops and story rooms i mean. like the room with eurydice.
Chaos gates too
oh yeah i usually did that already ahaha
but im gonna experiment with heat tmrw since ive been playing for too long
If your total time is 36 minutes for a run then you should be fine for tight deadline 1
i hope 41 minutes is good enough🏃♀️
if you're on pc, the speedrun mod has a lot of quality of life stuff. like displaying your chamber number in the corner at all times.
Oh lmao you're gonna have to speed up a bit
tight deadline 3 is 5 minutes per biome. it's scary at first but eventually it just clicks and you barely think about it.
Pausing between decisions is probably gonna be the biggest time save here then lmao
nah kinda self explanatory sonce i used the bow
Oh and always taking miniboss rooms
Those are faster than normal encounters
Unless you get asterius and then it can be hit or miss
If you struggle with the butterfly ball too then try not to take a miniboss room in ely
butterfly ball never caused me any trouble so
i appreciate all of the tips btw
cant wait to play again lol
Middle management moment lmao
i dont know what a hunting blade is😁😁😁
there are a couple of heat options that make the mini bosses much tougher
it's the artemis/ares duo. it makes slicing shot last longer and homing
slicing shot is ares cast
On the heat guide it's recommend at 5 heat lmao that's pretty early
ohh alr
it's because everything else sucks XD
Power couple gonna delete at least 1 DD from people just starting to use MM lmao
i hate power couple so much
I hate it unless I'm speedrunning
(power couple is the mini boss that's a giant gorgon head and a giant thwomp thing)
Because that's pretty fast
later
maybe i'm doing something wrong. power couple always takes forever for me or i just get exploded
do you just hang out in lava so the thing lands in it?
maybe that's the secret lol
I mean speedrunning doesn't use MM so it's much easier
oh right i always forget speedrunning is low heat
What I do is burst the shield of the gorgon as fast as possible, stand on it, when the thwomp is about to land I meg it
Or get hit by the thwomp and then meg lmao
Using companion gives you iframes btw
So if you time it right you can take no damage from a thwomp landing on you
I've done it like two or three times but I can never do it consistently lmao
on a lot of builds i have trouble getting to the gorgon
5 homing stone shots wasn't too bad before FO2
the gorgon teleporting around doesn't help either lmao
lmao yeah
it helps a lot that i'm using beo and i can sacrifice a lot of hp because ik i can get an easy clear
I almost never use beo. Zeus is so much more fun to me
that's fair
i should learn zeus tbh
i've been meaning to climb heat with other aspects/weapons but im just bad at everything that isn't bow or shied lmao
Gilgamesh
gilga is cringe
No
no
i already hate the fists enough dont make me use something worse lmao
I need to play spear more
i hate spear too lmao
befriend theseus and asterius mod has a keepsake that gives 3 more dashesa
9 dashes
Yeah that’s what I use
yeah it's nice
i just forget that sometimes i need to empty dash and just take a lot of damage lmao
holding m1 go brrrr
is arthur sword good
it's pretty good yeah
i hate it
I like doing over 1000 dmg in a hit
arty strike moment
clockets
beo with heroic rd, 15 ichors, mirage, and 30 braids
or just mirage trippy shot beo
true
the moose game
(Confidential)
are there rewards/prophecies for maxing out the mirror or leveling all keepsakes to 3 stars? i thought I saw it before (for the second one), but not seeing it now
i think there are achievements
You can do this with rama/hestia and be safer + have higher overall damage
this game is a 9.5/10
I did a Rama build once with double shot explosive shot
Arthur is only getting 1000+ on its wack full combo final hit, hestia can pump out massive numbers with every shot
Very slow but hit like a truck
Explosive is horrible for rama
Very fun lol
Worst hammer
Idc
only problem I've had it that it is very hard to play with a mousepad
I beat theasus asterius extreme measures 3 with it
It can already be hard to get power shots off in the chaos with rama, and that's where the big damage is
And hades so yeah
That doesn't mean it's good, em4 hades got beaten by an afk build
That isn't an exaggeration, it was literally a build that stacked revenge boons and had the zeus ares duo
I never said it was good
I said I had fun with it and beat a run
Also yeah I’ve seen a afk build lol
I did do it
I just like Rama even though the other bows seem better
i'm reasonably certain rama is the most powerful bow
they're not saying rama is bad just explosive rama is bad
it doesn't matter it's sweet you're having fun with it
I guess I like goofy builds lmao
Idk I’m kinda newish anyway to hades if 8 heat max is new
What is the best build for Chiron bow? I’m getting bored with Aphrodite attack with Dio special
Probably could go higher heat but I’m getting rewards
arty special is probably the best
did my first ever 3 heat run
with the +20 to all enemy stats thing that gave 3 heat points, or whatever that thing was
forced overtime?
yeah
20% attack and movement speed
Hey what’s the best shield cause I wanna use shields more
Or most fun cause in goofy
is the best one
the one that’s a buzzsaw special right
i use just +15 er hit but zeus shield is objectively best
What the heck the fists are OP
yeah
lol
I just killed Tisiphone in like 15 seconds
Fist main here lol
i lost like 15 fist runs in a row at 35. it was the only weapon i had that much trouble clearing it with lol
but I use Gilgamesh mostly but I like demeter
I had frost flourish at level 3, managed to get behind her and just keep hitting her in the back with my special
All of them that aren’t chaos
Why not
It’s the worst shield
it’s gimmick literally doesn’t matter
So it’s practically aspectless
Let’s go
zag bow
arty attack
heart rend
twin shot
flurry shot
purple ravenous will
purple swift strike
33% chaos attack
44% dash-strike
this is sweet
Cool except I can’t play zag bow
I think flurry strike means 0 of your strikes will be dstrikes
Iirc
When else would it be a dstrike
UC making me sell heart rend, passion dash, or swift strike 😦
I just play hera bow too much
i guess i sell passion dash and hope i find it in styx
oh man i just realized i did elysium with aphro keepsake from aspho
absolutely chaos. chaos is by far the best shield aspect and dont let anyone tell you otherwise. chaos has no downsides, while zeus does have a downside, and its that your special moves slower. being able to actually deal damage with your special is completely irrelevant if its slow and impossible to use, but having more specials is clearly better. what even is a "blitz disc" anyway? what a terrible name. "bonus shields" is the stuff im after. just think how much cooler it is to be able to throw 6 shields at once like captain america compared to just lazily sliding your shield along the ground. and dont even get me started on the design of the shields. the aspect of chaos' design on the shield is clearly surperior, because it is one big eye, while zeus has two small eyes. who doesnt like big eyes? not me! and also, chaos (the character) is just objectively cooler and more egg than zeus, who is neither cool nor egg. this is why the aspect of zeus on aegis, the shield of chaos, is clearly worse than the aspect of chaos on aegis, the shield of chaos. i mean, the aspect is even named after the original owner of the shield! it clearly gets bonus points for that.
Cause of Death: Ancient Curse
to learn the lyre can i just sit and spam e
or do i have to interact through various escape attempts
Not sure, I think I improved on the second time interacting it in the house when it happened
Which would point towards each interaction counting
There’s a dialogue with orpheus that I think is also required
you need to interact 210 times in order to get that dialogue
alright ty
im prepared for a boring 10 minutes
I don’t think I have ever interacted with it 210 times in total lmao
I usually do like 3 or 5 times per house trip
And I got an orpheus dialogue about practicing very early on
absolutely arthur. arthur is by far the best sword aspect and dont let anyone tell you otherwise. arthur has no downsides, while nemesis does have a downside, and its that your attacks deal less damage. being able to crit is completely irrelevant if the base damage is low, but having more damage and coverage is clearly better. what even is a "critical chance" anyway? what a terrible name. "massive damage numbers" is the stuff im after. just think how much cooler it is to be able to do 4000 damage in one hit compared to just lazily spamming dash strike. and dont even get me started on the design of the swords. the aspect of arthur design clearly surperior, because it is flipping huge, while nemesis is tiny. who doesnt like big swords? not me! and also, arthur (the character) is just objectively cooler and more chad than nemesis, who is neither cool nor chad. this is why the aspect of nemesis on the stygian blade, is clearly worse than the aspect of arthur, i mean, the aspect is even named after the original owner of the sword! it clearly gets bonus points for that.
i fixedit
yes you can if you have athena attack
No, it's a shield that looks like a sword.
🤯
And can be used like a sword.
ok I did some editing hopefully ists a bit better
Behold, my bladed shield with a hilt and scabbard
What do you mean, it's a claymore? It's a sharp shield
Hm h1 greater haste hyper sprint or epic greatest reflex
What's your build
And are you trying to speedrun or
What is a musket but a skinny shooty shield
Achilles arte attack aphro special dem cast ddash
People DID use muskets to block bayonet strikes so I mean
Thin projectile shield 🧠
Go hyper sprint and try for rush delivery
But don't count on it
hermes is wack with rd odds even when you optimize
Part of the skill in the game is knowing what boons to get or avoid to keep you on track for the boons you want
But ddash op
Well, pairing athena with dem at all opens it up
People who don’t run god keepsakes because then it’s more “skill based” are in shambles
lmao
Dashing icky
Always have been in shambles
I mean even without keepsakes a person who has an idea of what to do with their boonswill overall get better builds than someone who doesn't
A half functional build is better than one that just doesn't have any synergy
I saw a sword and fists “build” recommendation the other day which was literally hunt for artemis+demeter duo and use ares on every other core
Incredible
Yeah with this trash build 💪
lmao
If I drop a dem cast while under hyperdelivery
Wdym stubborn roots OP
Means I don’t have to stagger the casts in between dashes tho so that’s good
Since it isn't a global buff based on a bonus, but is a targeted buff for 4 specific acts
I had a 6:40 beo with rd haste and no hyper sprint lmao
“is a targeted buff for 4 specific acts” is rd not global?
Ichor + haste carry
No, I'm talking about Achilles
Rd is global, Achilles is targeted
It is, the targeted buff in contrast is Achilles
Okay I have a question: that Hermes boon that gives you the ability to hold cast for rapid fire... does that work with, say, Beowulf shield or Hera bow while loading cast into weapon?
Literally cannot get it on those
Don’t they both load one cast at a time max
Interesting, why tho?
It would be cool
Man, I still feel like a newbie even tho I did the epilogue of this game. There is so much to learn
Because it provides no real benefit, basically
🤨
Would literally be useless if you could
Nerf castspects, achilles/eris/hestia are the top weapons now
Hesti?
Talos
Yes, it's really good at speedrunning too
You just have to break your fingers to do it
Party
And make 30 calculations at once
You said nerf castpects and then listed 2 castpects and hestia I’m confused
Why useless? I meant like you wouldn't have to press three buttons to load casts, rather just hold one (since I'm on controller, circle) and have your casts loaded
Nerf eris to 20% buff lmao
Would be cool, imo
Nerf the cast ammo spects
Cast user stonks through the roof
It's needless to do so and tbh more of a hassle sometimes because not all volleys use all casts
the nice thing about flurry cast is it lets you hold it down to throw them all out faster than before. it doesn’t do much on the weapons that shoot them all out at the same time anyways
Or am I tripping
Just anvil into it
Alexa how do I mod my switch
Yeah I highroll for anvil clockets
Unfortunate
Heart rend
Pc superior
Better than roots at least
Heart rend is a goated duo what
Not clarity tho which this build is in dire need of rn
My attacks are falling off hard in ely
Meme beam moment
zeus attack, art special, ares cast, poseidon dash
And then jolted + cast stuff + hunting blades
And flurry
Switch should just remove Achilles since no guaranteed flurry
What was sgg thinking
Stop complaining when sword hammers exist
They don’t if I refuse to acknowledge them
Plenty of viable Achilles builds you can do that don't require Flurry Jab.
Unfun
If you're trying to min-max for speedruns, that's a self-imposed challenge.
The game doesn't require sub 7 clears.
Just get c1 poseidon dash c2 flurry c3 zeus strike c4 epic jolted c5-7 hunting blades
You don't need flurry if you're just doing blades
Hades but you can’t see the credits unless you clear sub7
Ez
6:42 gaming
It's very good for spin builds, too. But speedrunners wouldn't know that because they skip those for Flurry every time because they only play a single build. 
I've given up on speedrunning
Based
Spin gaming
I've heard that one before
I'll just do sub 8 on every weapon but fists if I can
Giving up on speedrunning is just choosing to play more of the game than Tartarus.
So true
True
Lies
Tart isn't as bad as ely resets
Ngl I don't reset a lot in hopes for good aspho and Ely rng lol
Ely means you've given up a run that already had a decent pace and build
Ely means you’ve given up on anvil manip
No anvil this run kek
based, just get the hammers
Stuck with these gaming hammers
Come to think of it, I've moved from Hades to two gacha games. I guess that's the opposite of moving away from RNG.
Hades RNG made me a gacha addict.

My girlfriend made me play Hades and now she's making me play Omega Strikers
Pretty fun tbh
Girlfriend moment
Soccer/football moment
Hades gacha game when?
It's already a gacha game
OMG I PULLED A 4 STAR IMPENDING DOOM!!!!
I just beat Hades for my first time lets goooo
YOOOOOOOOOOO
Time to gamble on poms!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Also nice lmao
I sold my firstborn child to demeter and she rare cropped lightning strike noooooo
"Girls aren't real" jokes are a lot more offensive than you might realize. Maybe don't do that.
“Wow, you found Epic Divine Dash! We’ve prepared a special offer for you”
On my 17th try, is that good?
Yeah that's pretty fast lol
Woman erasure
I think mine was also 17 lol
Seems pretty obvious
With which weapon did u do it?
Fists I think?
Just sell your kidney to afford a legendary aspect
Merciful end goes strong lol
Aspects are now gated behind lootboxes btw


cuz that means I’m a relatively new player as well

