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#h1-discussion
rustic vale
I got dedge c1 after using 1 roll 
warm nimbus
hmmm
patent mesa
@brisk trail what's DN
lean timber
deez nuts i think
patent mesa
oh I thought it was distant nemory
lean timber
I got dedge c1 after using 1 roll <:shadesmile:520447982727069737> <:shadesmile:...
whar
remote iris
i have a level one common curse of agony boon i'd like to upgrade and im at the end of chamber 3 i have a really tough choice (pom of power, daedalus hammer, chaos gate, erebus gate) what do i choose
lean timber
chaos or hammer
patent mesa
i have a level one common curse of agony boon i'd like to upgrade and im at the...
depends on what's in the erebus
lean timber
do you have fated authority
remote iris
erebus has dionysus boon sorry forgor to say
patent mesa
dio's meh, go for chaos
remote iris
i have the swap when given menu
lean timber
chaos choas chaos
patent mesa
it's generally good to skip hammers because they're forced on you
patent mesa
i have the swap when given menu
and yeah good choice, persuasion >>> authority
remote iris
took chaos
remote iris
whos the hottest god
patent mesa
whos the hottest god
dem
remote iris
what is addled
cast hurts i think
lean timber
whos the hottest god
artemis
rustic vale
Cast = hurt
lean timber
awesome. i love addled hera.
patent mesa
h!boon addled
patent mesa
wtf
no it's not even in the server
but it has 100% uptime rn because amber's running it locally
remote iris
what does h!boon do
patent mesa
nvm it's offline rn lmaoooo
nope
unfortunately I think removing free trial forces people on it off the membership
so I can't scam free money
rustic vale
h!boon addled
For the next 3–4 encounters, each time you Cast, get hit for 3–5 Heart.png
📈📈📈📈
signal aspen
whos the hottest god
Bouldy
rustic vale
Real 👍
rustic vale
so I can't scam free money
📉📉📉📉📉
remote iris
Megaera: I understand entirely. Though you should know my sisters and I keep no secrets from each other, anymore. Isn't that right, Sisters?
Alecto: Haha Zagreus you are banging my sister
warm nimbus
but it has 100% uptime rn because amber's running it locally
lie
warm nimbus
itd be funnier if i blamed you though
rustic vale
Want to see a fastest rta speedrun
warm nimbus
no
rustic vale
it’s not like
warm nimbus
no radians unit
rustic vale
Rad is a word
raw herald
Rad brah
signal aspen
Radical dude!
raw herald
🤟 😎
rustic vale
Radical dude!
That’s what I’m saying
Anywho
I wonder what fastest rta currently is
warm nimbus
I wonder what fastest rta currently is
11:41 eris by 185
rustic vale
Neat
warm nimbus
lol i didnt even check aspect
i just saw 185 and thought it was achilles
its eris apparently
(though 185 has achilles wr at 11:57)
also something thats kinda wacky
if bablos zag spear was achilles it would be second on src
its still kind of insane that zag spear is what, third fastest spear run ever?
rustic vale
Wr super soaker is a 30 minute video for a sub 8 run wow
warm nimbus
iirc 185 only has 2 runs faster than it
warm nimbus
Wr super soaker is a 30 minute video for a sub 8 run wow
thats unmodded
rustic vale
thats unmodded
Still wow
signal aspen
its still kind of insane that zag spear is what, third fastest spear run ever?
Bablo moment
I think it's second fastest
rustic vale
Idk I not really interested in watching modded
rustic vale
Idk I not really interested in watching modded
It’s kind of a different game
signal aspen
He took a crap in the middle of the run
warm nimbus
I think it's second fastest
nah iirc theres like a 5:0x or 5:1x
warm nimbus
He took a crap in the middle of the run
oh so thats it
signal aspen
nah iirc theres like a 5:0x or 5:1x
What
signal aspen
No other spear has gotten sub 530
lean timber
have you considered slowing down your link posts
warm nimbus
rustic vale
Stop sending links so fast
lean timber
that's wrong
signal aspen
Oh there's just a random 185 run 🗿
raw herald
Real
signal aspen
Still not goomba zagcry
lean timber
goombeez n
warm nimbus
i wouldnt be surprised
rustic vale
Bro asking his chat for right or left on hidden rooms so he doesn’t have to blame himself lmfao
signal aspen
Yeah he doesn't submit his runs that often
warm nimbus
ik its so sad
rustic vale
They went hidden into zeus on super soaker holy rng
signal aspen
I'll just take his runs and submit them as my own
rustic vale
I'll just take his runs and submit them as my own
Just like me fr
lean timber
i have a 3 btw
rustic vale
I have a 2 and a 4
lean timber
i didn't post it yet cuz you guys wouldn't believe me yet
patent mesa
Whats the problem with lightning flare?
I assume it's more like a hangover/doom situation
aka flat damage
patent mesa
but it's not an actual flare damager
rustic vale
Bad AOE, doesn’t get boosted by cast % damage
Rip
rustic vale
Or mirage shot
Mega rip
raw herald
You basically are rooting for RD and double strike
signal aspen
Just build cshot on beo
patent mesa
latent moon
Oh no
short glen
Why can't I open that?
warm nimbus
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/676266365123952689/1020097608305364992/...
nice what i cant see it smh
patent mesa
nice what i cant see it smh
god I hate this no image rule so much
I'll look into a command for hellfirebot that auto uploads to imgur or something
latent moon
I saw it fine
warm nimbus
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/676266365123952689/1020101927989694564/...
what
the hell
signal aspen
Hades subreddit moment
rustic vale
Reddit should be deleted from human conscience
warm nimbus
anyone want to do a lout x skullomat speedrun roll play? dm if arctanh(1.01)+ years old and interested
also wait since when has doing something since 5 days ago been "a while"?
lean timber
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/676266365123952689/1020101927989694564/...
what precisely did they mean by this
honest current
hiii
oh... I cant send images... anyways
I have three achievements left
making... idk the english names... But... I have to make Green guy with a spear and warrior guy from the third zone go together
and I've talked to them dozens of time
and they dont go together
and idk what I am doing wrong!
or if it requires dozens of dozens of dialogue
rustic vale
Achilles and patroclus
honest current
also, I need to start a relationship with megara to obtain a... idk the translation... but... ctonic partner? something like that.... how can I do that?
rustic vale
cthonic companion iirc
rustic vale
cthonic companion iirc
Max her with ambrosia right?
honest current
but she isnt accepting more gifts from me!
I mean, I just have 70 hours played
but idk...
rustic vale
Means you have to complete some other thing
honest current
thats why I came to this server... whats the "some other thing"?
honest current
I mean, ik that you all may not be an alive wiki of hades, but maybe someone knows that specific thing
rustic vale
After a random number of encounters with the Furies, Megaera will approach Zagreus in his room, and tell him that she's only stopping him from escaping because she has to. (This requires her to have first been in his room to collect her belongings.) After this interaction, Megaera can receive Ambrosia the next time she is met in the House of Hades.
honest current
isnt there a way to reset the rng without having to do a run?
rustic vale
You only need to give her one ambrosia for battie
rustic vale
isnt there a way to reset the rng without having to do a run?
I don’t think sooooo
honest current
oh... thats sad...
honest current
Achilles and patroclus
and about those guys...
is also rng? or do I really have to talk a lot
rustic vale
You have to have helped sisyphus and orpheus and eurydice first
honest current
Help sisyphus? How?
rustic vale
At some point patroclus will give you a message about telling achilles to “risk it all”
honest current
You have to have helped sisyphus and orpheus and eurydice first
I have all those 3 characters max friendship
rustic vale
I have all those 3 characters max friendship
I think you’re set then
Then it’s really just rng till achilles asks you to alter his pact with hades
Because dialogue is rng
Then buy the contract from housing contractor to alter it for 5 diamons
Should be fine and damdy after that except dialogue rng the eternal bane of newbie hades players
remote iris
these sound like post-persephone escape deaths https://www.theonion.com/most-common-death-in-every-state-1848799006
honest current
At some point patroclus will give you a message about telling achilles to “risk ...
okay he just said he was about to risk it all...
and that I had to talk to ni... nixe?
rustic vale
Nyx
honest current
That girl
rustic vale
Think so
honest current
and I talked to her... the thing hasnt appeared to buy... should I do another run, right?
honest current
Always play more hades 👍👍👍👍
I dont like Hades in one sense...
Here I left my review
rustic vale
I dont like Hades in one sense...
Why play if you don’t like it?
honest current
TLDR: the runs are not quite different
rustic vale
If every run is the same
honest current
but it is so good that even if every run is the same, I lasted 50 hours without getting bored
rustic vale
Something sounds off idk
patent mesa
I dont like Hades in one sense...
yeah I hate hades too
rustic vale
I mix up how I do things all the thime
honest current
I mean, Hollow Knight is a game where literally nothing changes, but it is so good that I have 400 hours on it
And I can beat it over and over again without getting bored
is kinda the same with hades... but less
rustic vale
Your opinion is simply incorrect /j
warm nimbus
wtf i have 427 hours in hades since when
those tart resets have really been adding up huh
rustic vale
I have 300-400 hours in hades iirc
I just change how I build things idk what to tell you
patent mesa
tbh I think I have like 150 hours
warm nimbus
tbh I think I have like 150 hours
sus
honest current
I dont go for high heat runs... I just have gone to 20 heat... but from 20 and below... I am not expecting good boons from the gods... I just play and it works... I dont find that boons have the protagonism I expected... And without counting the boons... literally nothing else changes between runs... I mean... your weapon... and thats kinda it
honest current
I mean, I am used to isaac where there are 500 items
honest current
Every hades run is the same
Kinda yes, like, different rooms with different enemies... but every room plays kinda the same imo
rustic vale
Funniest thing I’ve ever heard
honest current
I mean, its not literally the same
I just feel the same and I have the same playing pattern on every run
rustic vale
I can’t just
honest current
I mean, here I am the one with less experience at Hades
But I want to hear about ur perspective too, why do u keep playing Hades?
rustic vale
I won’t and can’t tell you to have a different view point or change your mind or change what you like to play
honest current
the combat is a 10/10, its satisfactory and all... but after 300 hours? (I mean, high heat is still there, ik, and its a challenge you can go for and that would be fun)
patent mesa
But I want to hear about ur perspective too, why do u keep playing Hades?
I'm addicted to high heat
lean timber
i play it because it's fun and i like getting good at things
rustic vale
I play hades because I’m addicted to feeling like I improve
lean timber
i'm addicted to nine (9) heat specifically
honest current
i play it because it's fun and i like getting good at things
yeah this is the thing...
rustic vale
and also I still have yet to finish the resource director
honest current
I find that awesome
honest current
and also I still have yet to finish the resource director
lol
how much does he ask on lategame?
I am a Sigma at that
rustic vale
You need 325000 total darkness
lean timber
i play it because i like playing bad games
rustic vale
Along with the other resources
honest current
You need 325000 total darkness
is the entire alphabet or what?
rustic vale
is the entire alphabet or what?
Think there are like 50 ranks
honest current
lol
rustic vale
it goes through 5 then changes the title iirc
lean timber
there's a cycle of five titles and ten "things" like seer, watcher, blah blah blah and yeah i'm bored now
i'm tired
rustic vale
Anyways I also like making crackhead builds at 20 heat and winning
lean timber
i like making nothing and losing
rustic vale
Winning a run with every aspect with shackle on for the whole time was much fun
I should do super soaker with every aspect next
super soaker arthur oh man
latent moon
You can get creative with builds, run high heat, or speedrun
All of which provides a lot of replayability
rustic vale
demeter on rail might be 4iq but like
It fun
Especially with flurry fire or spread fire and arctic blast
lean timber
You can get creative with builds, run high heat, or speedrun
All of which provi...
or all three :))
dem zag rail
rustic vale
dem zag rail 64 heat
Lets go
wr pace rn
World record pace for 64 heat in the house of hades rn
0:00 seconds on the clock
I love roguelites/roguelikes in general thiugh
I put way too many hours into all of the ones I play
signal aspen
I love roguelikes especially Fortnite
signal aspen
Dead cells is fun
rustic vale
Incentives speedrunning
lean timber
incentivizes
rustic vale
True
My spelling was bad
I still don’t exactly know what’s good in dead cells and I haven’t talked to anyone else who plays it but I know what I think is good and it’s working so far
rustic vale
interlinked
Dead ones
warm nimbus
But I want to hear about ur perspective too, why do u keep playing Hades?
i really like tartarus the biome
and i like seeing numbers go down
warm nimbus
but I find it quite repetitive
try some wacky and stupid builds
like actually trying to get most of your damage from attack on talos
just spice stuff up
alternatively you can do what a lot of people here do and just do high heat/speedruns
challenging yourself is very fun
remote iris
what chamber is elysium stadium
raw herald
36
signal aspen
50
remote iris
should i take a chaos gate at 34 for the vine
raw herald
Sure
remote iris
DO IT FOR THE VINEEEEEEEEE
signal aspen
Do it for the meemees
remote iris
got addled soul
barely ever cast so ez dub
4 soul boons one run
fighting dad with 453 health
does em4 and mm stack
as in does superdad spawn more superbads
raw herald
No
swift inlet
Ayy yo hera players
If I have art/aphro/artemis coming out of tart, do I just stick to demeter or try to get poseidon for the dash + mirage
signal aspen
Yeah just go dem
swift inlet
I literally censored her in my head she doesn't exist outside of heat and merciful end
signal aspen
So true
high island
Get Snow Burst. 
terse geyser
snowburst is actually good
for setting up privileged status when you lack alternatives
swift inlet
I have ff on
rustic vale
If only snow burst was mirage-able
rustic vale
I have ff on
🧠
signal aspen
Pstatus 🤮
terse geyser
are you insane
pstatus gives you big numbers
ff gives you small numbers
easy choice
signal aspen
Bruh
Pstatus is very inconsistent
Most of the time it makes you choose bad boons to proc pstatus
And it's only 15% more than ff
So pstatus is only good on a handful of builds
swift inlet
Is triple flurry the best hera combo
signal aspen
Yes
swift inlet
😎
signal aspen
swift inlet
Is twin flurry a thing
signal aspen
My favorite yt comment
signal aspen
Is twin flurry a thing
Yes
swift inlet
Honestly
I'm very offended by gods that force themselves into your pool when you have 3 you want and just need 1 more in asphodel
latent moon
Keep resetting until you get Dem in c2 or c3 for PS on Hera lmao
latent moon
I'm very offended by gods that force themselves into your pool when you have 3 y...
Take 5 gods lmao
signal aspen
I'm very offended by gods that force themselves into your pool when you have 3 y...
Skill issue ngl
latent moon
Thats an Rd moment
latent moon
Based
swift inlet
I've experienced true humiliation
I got a sub 9 achilles when I've used this aspect like 6 times ever
Meanwhile nemesis my beloved is still at 9:35
latent moon
it do be like that
rustic vale
It do be like that
swift inlet
I guess I shouldn't be too upset
Beo almost had a sub 7
Guess I'm giving up on sword altogether 😔
warm nimbus
Is triple flurry the best hera combo
twin flurry/triple flurry are probably equally good, i think most people opt for twin over triple nowadays
swift inlet
Gotcha
I really like rama, but damn is it hard to go fast with
My bow experience has gone from, like.
Chiron easy, no brain needed, neat.
Hera go boom, that's pretty nice.
Rama way cooler, new best friend
Crap I can't go fast with Rama, I'll just play Hera again
I think I'll probably chill a bit with speedrunning and play something like zag bow for a bit
lean timber
rama and hera are so cool and awesome
chiron is a fun little thing to play with
zag is neat as well
latent moon
oh i should try zooming on zag bow
swift inlet
zag bow looks pretty fun
swift inlet
rama and hera are so cool and awesome
Hera is unfortunately just bad beowulf 😔
latent moon
is it better to start flurry or twin on zag bow
swift inlet
It feels weird using twin on something not named Rama
How does triple jab on spear work? Is the hitbox different from the visuals? Because it feels like if they match, triple only does anything against bosses or superfat enemies
lean timber
is it better to start flurry or twin on zag bow
twin because more crit??
i think triple jab is a little wonky. as far as i know the hitboxes are either a little more or less spaced out than the visual shows
swift inlet
Would twin give more than flurry? Flurry's fire rate kinda boppin
lean timber
well perhaps not over time but it would save time overall i would think cuz one manual shot giving double+ crit chance is probably going to kill smaller enemies faster
as opposed to flurry where you would likely have to target longer
in the end i think twin flurry is a good go-to for zag bow as well
latent moon
twin because more crit??
default was flurry lmao but i did change it to twin because i never liked flurry shot
lean timber
why
latent moon
i'd assume so because it's default lmao
lean timber
oh the modpack
latent moon
yeah
latent moon
oh lmao
since i got my sub10 on bow i need to git gud at the other aspects unfortunately
lean timber
chad eris user vs. loser hestia main
latent moon
my current rail pb is with eris lmao
latent moon
ngl i'm thinking about starting delta chamber literally because i can't manage ammo
lean timber
ammo sucks so bad
latent moon
aight bedtime for me, goin on vacation tomorrow ~~and bringing hades with me~~
what vacation, you're just gonna play hades
there is no escape
latent moon
lmao hopefully
lean timber
nighty night
latent moon
have fun
swift inlet
chad eris user vs. loser hestia main
"Nooo, Hestia is so much more skillful! You have to micromanage and perform far more mechanically challenging inputs than Eris, Eris players are brainless!"
"Funny clockets boost go brrr"
On the topic of rail I genuinely cannot play rail
latent moon
i've heard that one before
latent moon
On the topic of rail I genuinely cannot play rail
same
mainly because of managing ammo
which is why i like hesty more, because you literally know when to reload
swift inlet
Exact opposite for me
I can manage timing stuff correctly, the issue is that I can't aim
I have aim at cursor on and it's to the point where I can miss rockets on grabbers
latent moon
well turn that off lmao
although i'm fairly certain that the rocket still follows cursor for that
latent moon
well turn it on for those weapons
rail is the only weapon you should turn off aim at cursor for
swift inlet
I'd rather not be forced to strike the way I'm facing when pc has stank movement anyway
swift inlet
You only have 8 directions possible instead of probably 16
latent moon
and eris is basically a melee aspect
latent moon
You only have 8 directions possible instead of probably 16
you only need one direction to face: the enemy
swift inlet
How am I gonna do that with flurry bow
I gotta get a controller and just play w that
warm nimbus
is it better to start flurry or twin on zag bow
twin
just more dps
and better burst
latent moon
very cool
swift inlet
Why oh why is beowulf actually miserable to play without cshot
warm nimbus
Why oh why is beowulf actually miserable to play without cshot
this is true
you know what else is true
latent moon
beo charged flight goes hard?
swift inlet
I don't have python I'm not a coding nerd 😎
Thank you chaos very cool
Also in 200+ runs this is the first time I've gone from a chaos gate to a miniboss room
Never dropped into a miniboss room before
latent moon
did you take defiance lmao
warm nimbus
I don't have python I'm not a coding nerd 😎
bruh it literally takes like half a second to install
just play modded already ffs
terse geyser
just play modded already ffs
it's fine
high island
2 from Greater Reflex, 2 from Gilgamesh, 4 from Heroic Greatest Reflex.
silver nimbus
2 from Greater Reflex, 2 from Gilgamesh, 4 from Heroic Greatest Reflex.
wait gilgamesh gives you two
i thought it gave you one
i guess i must have switched the mirror upgrade to complete the list of minor prophecy
high island
You had Greater Reflex in that run, though.
But yeah, 2 extra dashes.
They're shorter, however.
And your dashes have a longer cooldown.
warm nimbus
true
warm nimbus
Sub 10 pace without mirage shot
it was all the hc
terse geyser
39 second styx 😳
how do you get through chambers that fast
warm nimbus
how do you get through chambers that fast
beo
raw herald
ive had a 34s styx with tiny vermin
raw herald
beo is a nuke
swift inlet
I'm doing more damage than meg
raw herald
lmao nice
terse geyser
I'll often take a second to even get to the door after clearing a room
swift inlet
I thought wr was with hera
raw herald
is the 4:49 the one with the 50s styxdad?
no
raw herald
not sure
warm nimbus
damn
swift inlet
Wow
The rng is blessed
I only play beowulf if I get a cshot hammer start
Just got another hammer
Explosive return on shield... Time to actually try zeus
warm nimbus
I only play beowulf if I get a cshot hammer start
dont reset for hammer start
swift inlet
dont reset for hammer start <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
I don't, I just play literally any other weapon and only pick up beowulf if I get a seed with cshot
I take the chance if I see it, but otherwise don't like playing beo
warm nimbus
ah ok
silver nimbus
I don't, I just play literally any other weapon and only pick up beowulf if I ge...
what is cshot?
oh charged shot nvm
swift inlet
oh charged shot nvm
Yep
swift inlet
ah ok
I mostly just use hera/rama and some of the other aspects as blanket options to do chill runs unless there's something worth tossing onto a different one like epic attack for nemesis
That reminds me, I got the pathing for my save, but how do I actually copy it? Do I just copy all the files that have save 1 on them and change them to save 2/3 before slapping them back in alongside the original?
warm nimbus
the actual save file is just profileX.sav
swift inlet
Oh, what're all the other files with the profileX then?
warm nimbus
temp.sav is the save file that includes the run that you are currently doing
the sav.bak files are backup saves
v.sav does literally nothing
swift inlet
Gotcha
warm nimbus
oh yeah theres also stuff like the .ctrl file or whatever which is just your keybinds and a few others like it which dont get deleted upon file deletion
hollow urchin
finally deafeated hades with the fists
the secret was getting festive fog DR low health DR and the ice explosion at 10 stacks of ice
only used 2 lives
still havent won with the sword or the shield though
also had like 5 dashes and summon spinning vortex blade on dash but that really didnt help as much as i thought it would
swift inlet
finally deafeated hades with the fists
the secret was getting festive fog DR lo...
Congrats
swift inlet
also had like 5 dashes and summon spinning vortex blade on dash but that really ...
Yeah, the main reason blade dash sucks is because the blades disappear once you start a new string of dashes. For example, with the default 2, if you do 2 dashes while 2 blades are out, they get replaced
hollow urchin
yeah i got the bonus seconds but it legit did not matter because id rest the dash before they die normally
swift inlet
Tidal dash has more immediate damage and can stack even more if you get wall slams with it, so it's just infinitely better
hollow urchin
it was cool doing dashes around an enemy and having 5 blenders on them but it wasnt that good
looked cool low damage
swift inlet
Yeah, if you want damage on your dash use tidal
Tidal and divine dash are hands down the best in the game
Tidal over divine to many, but divine dash's defensive strength is nutty so it's still very valuable
hollow urchin
oh i had 3 types of DR
festive fog standing in it
low health
and sturdy on punches
swift inlet
Still not as good as just having extra invincibility + deflect
Witch/drakon spam becomes braindead easy with ddash
hollow urchin
yeah wasnt offerd any deflect sadly
but deflect dashing into those wizards and oneshotting them with their own spell balls is hilarious
latent moon
rama gaming
swift inlet
Rama and crit nemesis love hunter dash
latent moon
nonflurry zag bow too
swift inlet
Yeah I was more so like
Reminding myself
Because when I think of crits I think of nem and forget zagbow
latent moon
i should try heart rend rama next lmao
swift inlet
does hunter dash unlock it
latent moon
doubt it
raw herald
It used to
formal sinew
When I get lucky with exagryph and my hammer + anvil gets me targeting, rocket and cluster shot
latent moon
gaming
formal sinew
From what I see, if the rocket gets close enough, it hits them with the speed debuff
Not sure how since there's no targeting circle but it does apply
That with demeter atk
swift inlet
Strange
formal sinew
Yep
But it's better with lucifers aspect when you get greater inferno and targeting fire
So larger radius from hellfire and slowing in that radius
terse geyser
hades spear is good
random pilot
what is the strongest weapon to get one shot kills?
raw herald
Hestia
swift inlet
Well
Against armored enemies clockets eris can get the oneshot
While Hestia has to do 2
raw herald
Trippy Beowulf
random pilot
hestia seriously?
raw herald
Hestia is good but only at max level
mint coral
150 base dmg gud
swift inlet
Hestia does disgusting damage
raw herald
Maybe level 4 is decent
random pilot
isnnt that so slow
swift inlet
No
raw herald
Not really
raw herald
Reload + shot takes 0.75s approx
And you can dash + special + cast in between
So lots of damage
Over high range
swift inlet
^ plus you can reload with full ammo so you can start a room with reload into shot
raw herald
If you have epic rush delivery then doom is good too 😄 😁
swift inlet
Oh no it changes base damage
raw herald
Yep
raw herald
Ultimate rail aspect exists
raw herald
Rocket bomb, cluster bomb, hazard bomb, ricochet fire, targetting
I’d take cluster or hazard
random pilot
yeah i took that
patent mesa
which hammer is good with hestia
hazard best don't @ me
random pilot
i took hazard, now i wish it took the other aspect
random pilot
that gives you extra dmg when you are hit by your own grenade
with flourish insane damage
patent mesa
i took hazard, now i wish it took the other aspect
oh you generally wanna avoid eris + hazard
swift inlet
Rocket is way better on it
random pilot
its only 3 dmg no?
swift inlet
The issue is that you want to be hit by your special a lot
So aside from damage, hazard bomb takes longer to get your boost online
patent mesa
it's possible to get eris buffed without taking damage by dashing on impact but you generally don't wanna have to bother
swift inlet
An extra 2 seconds or something doesn't sound like much with such a huge boost, but when you're waiting every time + getting damaged, you'd much rather just have a rocket to instantly boost yourself
random pilot
Funny damage will insta kill everything though
swift inlet
Yeah but a lot of enemies are mobile af
Brightswords or asphodel skeletons will dodge hazard bomb 10 minutes before it would hit them
patent mesa
hence why targeting + hazard is a super op combo
targeting's damage buff is multiplicative with hazard's and the slow helps keep stuff in range
patent mesa
Why is that of all things multiplicative lmao
oh it's not a specific interaction or anything
just from hazard being a base damage buff
swift inlet
Ah, like rocket/hestia
patent mesa
yeah
swift inlet
Speaking of hammers
Day 743 of lamenting how bad sword hammers are
Dash strikes are so important to the game, and I figure with all the feedback, the devs would know that, so why are half the sword hammers useless to or flat out detrimental for dash strikes
warm nimbus
Dash strikes are so important to the game, and I figure with all the feedback, t...
wait, what?
i thought dash strikes were bad
swift inlet
😩
patent mesa
i thought dash strikes were bad
for the best aspect zshield and the two aspectless zshields yeah
forest gust
Guys. Hyper sprint (common), rush delivery (common), or greatest reflex (epic)?
latent moon
is this first hermes and you're using plume or is it second hermes and you picked up greater haste
patent mesa
if first hermes take RD
latent moon
yeah rd
forest gust
Ok
patent mesa
or kinda depends on aspect and build
latent moon
actually even if it was second hermes still probably rd
patent mesa
if you're on ME or something I'd take +dash
warm nimbus
if that was like ME or eris +dashes prob better
actually i think id take +dashes on most aspects there ngl
lean timber
i should try heart rend rama next lmao
heart rend rama is sooooo much fun how have you not tried it
latent moon
because i only play rama when i have a guaranteed aphro atk
lean timber
you deprive yourself of joy
swift inlet
Shouldn't dashes vs rd be dependent on rarity
Like common reflex and rd are both a 50% damage boost
lean timber
wh
swift inlet
Because you have 2 dashes, 1 extra dash means your cycle does 50% more damage, no?
and common hyper delivery is also a 50% boost
tepid light
make hazard bomb compatible with cluster bomb
swift inlet
Fair, I'm just trying to look at it in a vacuum
tepid light
true gameplay
swift inlet
make hazard bomb compatible with cluster bomb
based
lean timber
i mean if you want to isolate them then yeah i guess it would do 50% more overall but i don't see it that way
i think requiring an action to add damage is lesser than passive damage
also rd is global after all
latent moon
you deprive yourself of joy
im not touching bow ever again lmao
until i get sub10 all weapons
swift inlet
i think requiring an action to add damage is lesser than passive damage
Fair
swift inlet
until i get sub10 all weapons
Make it sub 10 all aspects
lean timber
heart rend 👍
nem 👎
swift inlet
Very doable
latent moon
fists is probably ME but might be able to get away with zap fists smair
swift inlet
My best nem time is with heart rend because ME is hell
swift inlet
Or you can git gud with hestia
latent moon
nah lmao
swift inlet
Achilles is super fun with flurry tidal
Otherwise I don't wanna touch it
Non flurry spear feels so weird
signal aspen
Hades spear be like
swift inlet
Gross
latent moon
why does spear feel so awful 
swift inlet
Because it goes weird with dash strikes
latent moon
spear is cringe
swift inlet
so true
tepid light
i will not stand for this spear slander
latent moon
then sit
latent moon
spear without flurry
tepid light
aspect of bananas without brain
tepid light
that explains why you don't like spear
latent moon
ever since i became a beo one trick
swift inlet
Play unmodded beo to cure that
latent moon
iirc i have a sub10 unmodded beo
but never really pushed that afterwards
and went to modded lmao
i think it was because i felt like i "proved" to myself that i can go zoom without mods
and then sub6 moment
latent moon
when sub6 unmodded
latent moon
if you get good enough rng you dont need to study rooms lmao
just get all the free rooms and 3 chaos rooms
swift inlet
I've remembered a couple, including ones where they were just "??? idk wtf this room is just pray for good enemy placement"
Also
Movement speed is multiplicative for enemies too, right
Watching a 55 heat rama and numbing got taken over aid
latent moon
Movement speed is multiplicative for enemies too, right
no clue tbh but probably
signal aspen
spear best weapon
Name a spear aspect you can play without a specific hammer
Checkmate
latent moon
guan yu
signal aspen
Nope
swift inlet
Spin gy pain
tepid light
Name a spear aspect you can play without a specific hammer
achilles
swift inlet
ME nem doesn't need double edge but you've just shifted from wanting one hammer to wanting 43 boons + poms
latent moon
waiting for casts to come back gaming
signal aspen
I can't play Achilles without vicious skewer 
tepid light
smh my head
swift inlet
What's your achilles pb
signal aspen
Who me?
swift inlet
Nah, other guy
signal aspen
Mine is 4:55
tepid light
0:00
swift inlet
I'm curious though 😩
tepid light
i gave you my answer
latent moon
idk what i got my spear pb on
my guan yu run i found in #h1-victory-boasting is 5 seconds slower lmao
warm nimbus
Because you have 2 dashes, 1 extra dash means your cycle does 50% more damage, n...
not how that works for several reasons
the most obvious being that 2->4 dashes doesnt mean you do double dps with your dash
swift inlet
Fair, but with 2 dashes there's a bit of downtime
warm nimbus
same with 4
swift inlet
hermes should remove dash cooldown 🧠
latent moon
your cycles are longer but it doesn't give you 50% more damage, but it will increase your overall damage depending on the aspect
warm nimbus
yeah if you could do all of your dashes instantly then it would be 50% more but you cant
latent moon
if it's ME then it's gonna be much higher % wise probably but like rama it'd probably increase less
warm nimbus
which means that each extra dash has diminishing returns
swift inlet
Oh, I was talking about in the context of me
Since all your damage is just from dashstriking
warm nimbus
in the context of ME if thats first hermes i think you take +3 dashes over common rd
especially if you already have ME and ddash
swift inlet
Yeah, obviously w stuff that isn't spamming dashstrike as much it won't do the same amount
swift inlet
Oh, I was talking about in the context of me
Actually sword in general tbh
Like crit nem
warm nimbus
me when unarmored witches ruin a good tart leave
swift inlet
Seriously why do unarmored witches spawn so much
It would be less hellish if they didn't come in 5 waves of 20
warm nimbus
Seriously why do unarmored witches spawn so much
low enemy value
warm nimbus
why is achilles so impossible to play
swift inlet
Flurry moment
tepid light
why is achilles so impossible to play
heyoo that's how i feel about guan yu
though we've had this argument before
warm nimbus
Flurry moment
but zag spear is so easy
swift inlet
I'm just messin around with hera and got chaos +fountain + sisyphus tart
And aphro/poseidon/artemis pool
Guess I gotta tryhard now
Actual hacking
c19 than
unkempt sand
does hades run atleast ok on integrated graphics and on 1920x1080 display?
swift inlet
Is there any info for hermes' chance to be on a styx gate
lean timber
it's pretty low
warm nimbus
does hades run atleast ok on integrated graphics and on 1920x1080 display?
probably (as long as your processor is strong enough)
this isnt a very resource intensive game
lean timber
there's a higher chance of you finding him in the shop then on the tunnels even if you only take him once
warm nimbus
@dull niche what was your old setup
unkempt sand
probably (as long as your processor is strong enough)
whats the minimum?
lean timber
three
warm nimbus
whats the minimum?
should be on the steam page
lean timber
needs at least three
signal aspen
4
lean timber
i disagree so now i hate you
swift inlet
i disagree so now i hate you
mattyboi (twitter arc)
rustic vale
mattyboi (twitter arc)
Mattyboi(sub40 arc) when?
raw herald
Sub40 cancels
swift inlet
sub40?
rustic vale
Sub40 minute runs when?
raw herald
Sub 40 dashes
rustic vale
Sub40 input win
Wait
That would actually be impossible I think
Must input to move and input to go into next chamber aside from enemy killing
swift inlet
yeah
high island
That's why only the best can do it.
lean timber
i did a sub 40 input run
which resulted in death c3
which is why it was sub 40 inputs
high island
One of the best.
lean timber
...
dusky solar
writing prompt:
supergiant releases a dating sim update to hades, what is changed?
warm nimbus
nothing because i still just speedrun it
latent moon
lmfao
warm nimbus
alright teacher whats my grade on the essay
latent moon
new speedrun category: get laid any%
signal aspen
writing prompt:
supergiant releases a dating sim update to hades, what is chang...
You can now date bouldy
tepid light
careful with 'everyone'
rustic vale
Zag can date himself too 🔫🔫🔫
tepid light
that's not who i was referring to
short glen
We respect aro people here or else
twilit lodge
that's not who i was referring to
rustic vale
Cerbe ok nvrmind not everyone
short glen
That's also a problem. And the incest
tepid light
cerberus is one of the no-gos
rustic vale
So
tepid light
That's also a problem. And the incest
yep there we are
latent moon
you can now date the other furies
twilit lodge
Only characters with bodies
latent moon
and lernie i guess
rustic vale
you can now date the other furies
🧠
twilit lodge
Take that dusa
short glen
Except theseus
Theseus finds out you're dating asterious and cries
latent moon
lmfao
latent moon
oh i forgot to account for the olympian gods
short glen
And also your cousin I think
high island
writing prompt:
supergiant releases a dating sim update to hades, what is chang...
That's just normal Hades.
latent moon
also true
short glen
You're related to all of the Olympians
twilit lodge
That’s never stopped them
latent moon
yeah i was gonna say lmao
tepid light
^
latent moon
yeah
tepid light
Yeah like supergiant bent over backwards and adjusted a bunch of mythos stuff to avoid any incest implication
Even when the gods are talking about their relationship to each other
But it still happens
short glen
They just ignored the hera and Zeus thing though
tepid light
They just don't want to talk about it
latent moon
there's a reason why hera only exists as the aspect lmao
tepid light
same with aphro and hephaestus
twilit lodge
720p not wide enough for her knockers
tepid light
or ares and aphro's relationship
short glen
same with aphro and hephaestus
It's a good thing Hephaestus isn't in the game for another reason there too tbh
lean timber
That's also a problem. And the incest
it's greek mythology that's literally all it is
dusky solar
That's just normal Hades.
something told me id get that response
latent moon
i was thinking about saying that but didn't want to say it and entertain the dating sim thought more lol
swift inlet
I'd really appreciate if trans lernie could stop slamming the ground for 2 damn seconds
latent moon
use dem atk so trans lernie either does it less or keeps doing it for longer
swift inlet
I'm using zag bow for fun
latent moon
mistral dash gaming
rustic vale
Use fo2 to get it over with faster
latent moon
use fo0 and maul lernie before they can get any attacks off
rustic vale
Use em2 to make lernie fight end sooner
use lc4, hl5, pl, fo2 and dd’s to make lernie fight end sooner
high island
Master Chaos put it there to mess with you.
latent moon
that's the opposite of the exit right
lean timber
use dem atk so trans lernie either does it less or keeps doing it for longer
hitbox extension goes brrrr
high island
What if there is no Well, you just think there is.
latent moon
well wouldn't that be unfortunate
latent moon
twin shot zag bow is so fun
lean timber
shocking revelation
swift inlet
It really is fun
friendship ended with hera
It also has the benefit of not being ugly as sin like hera
latent moon
TRUE
lean timber
what???
swift inlet
Like
lean timber
ur just trolling
lean timber
:((
lean timber
it's funny when i get greater recall i hardly ever do well on the run
rustic vale
friendship ended with hera
Based
swift inlet
Who cares if hera is way faster and feels better when you go fast
Zag bow is comfy and fun
rustic vale
Who cares if hera is way faster and feels better when you go fast
“Is way faster” lies and slander
Wait nevermind just checked speedrun leaderboards
I take that back
1 minute 8 second difference between the records is big wow
warm nimbus
Wait nevermind just checked speedrun leaderboards
swift inlet
Lmao
warm nimbus
also wait is zag bow record really only 5:57
rustic vale
At least on unmodded unseeded any heat
warm nimbus
i thought it was a bit lower
warm nimbus
At least on unmodded unseeded any heat
oh
rustic vale
It is 6:24
swift inlet
Gaps are way bigger in general on unmodded
warm nimbus
you people keep looking at unmodded smh
swift inlet
Like nem is not that far behind beo in modded
rustic vale
you people keep looking at unmodded smh
That’s where I really care tbh but I did check modded and it is a lower difference
warm nimbus
shackle nem moment
high island
Runs that require a lot of resets in speedruns are gonna have worse times without modded to help them out. There's just gonna be fewer runs for them because fewer people are interested in resetting that much.