the only thing spearpoint is good for is bballs but i fail to see how tooth isnt just better
#h1-discussion
warm nimbus
mint coral
Doom stones and sneaks too
strong ridge
pause menu counters poison
snow skiff
Not getting hit counters everything
mint coral
Keeping a domstone alive for spearpoint and trying to stop the 2nd set of summons sounds funny
strong ridge
spearpoint doesnt get wasted on summons like acorn or tooth & has potentially higher hp gain than either
raw herald
I think it’s good if you have a lot of hp
strong ridge
actively encourages aggressive gameplay
warm nimbus
just had a 1 wave c9 which was 4 armored louts
raw herald
since Retrash uses ri0 a lot, high HP isn’t unrealistic
warm nimbus
unfortunately i had lvl1 cast and no hammer lmao
warm nimbus
thats the example you chose 
raw herald
unfortunately i had lvl1 cast and no hammer lmao
Empowered attack + 1 cast kills louts smh
warm nimbus
Empowered attack + 1 cast kills louts smh
armored
raw herald
Rofl
high island
Spearpoint is good for Hell Mode EM4.
raw herald
Me resetting 4 numbskulls c1 but keeping non menu than:
warm nimbus
Me resetting 4 numbskulls c1 but keeping non menu than:
lmao same tbh
snow skiff
Where sub 5
warm nimbus
ugh 14s c2 exit
ewwww
warm nimbus
rmacinty whats your c2 pb
raw herald
My 5:56 vod shown death is c2
raw herald
rmacinty whats your c2 pb
I think low 7
warm nimbus
I think low 7
damnn nice
raw herald
same
warm nimbus
lmao
snow skiff
Lmao
mint coral
Rip
safe tinsel
Lol
raw herald
Kiwibotted
tepid light
wow, really? they even have filter for that
safe tinsel
Which pot
warm nimbus
@tepid light You're sending messages too quickly.
tepid light
<@155886803642089472> You're sending messages too quickly.
don't
safe tinsel
Styx?
mint coral
Hs pot or pot into combo'd
tepid light
hades pot
snow skiff
Kiwibotted
@patent mesa ban?
raw herald
true
safe tinsel
Hades has a pot?
raw herald
Hades pot 😳
hardy spear
green ones
snow skiff
The green pots
tepid light
Hades has a pot?
the green jars he summons?
warm nimbus
Kiwibotted
what is this btd6 term
raw herald
Ninja kiwi
safe tinsel
Ah yeah the things that stun u
raw herald
Is like sgg
patent mesa
Kiwibotted
wtf btd6 reference?
strong ridge
hades TD spinoff when
safe tinsel
I rarely get hit by those pots bc I get rid of them first
warm nimbus
Is like sgg
so a chill server with a bunch of decent players trying to coax new players out of using rr?
raw herald
yes
tepid light
I rarely get hit by those pots bc I get rid of them first
easier said than done, esp on em4
warm nimbus
doesnt seem bad
hardy spear
so a chill server with a bunch of decent players trying to coax new players out ...
unlike this server which doesnt have decent players
snow skiff
Uhhhhh
warm nimbus
unlike this server which doesnt have decent players
true my runs are all luck no skill
mint coral
We steal the luck from other players to get good runs
warm nimbus
We steal the luck from other players to get good runs
yeah exactly
raw herald
I’m a luck stealing little menace
Every time you get a 2:10 elysium, I get a 1:10
(Disclaimer, I have had many 2:10s but no 1:10s)
warm nimbus
ok so if the ninja kiwi discord is sgg does that make the index server the nonexistent high heat server?
snow skiff
so a chill server with a bunch of decent players trying to coax new players out ...
Kinda but pretend the average userbase is about 5 years younger
raw herald
10
warm nimbus
except with a lot of racism jokes
raw herald
ok so if the ninja kiwi discord is sgg does that make the index server the nonex...
Kinda except the index server is unbased
signal aspen
whats the index server
snow skiff
Btd6
raw herald
Imagine keeping track of every 2tc
warm nimbus
Imagine keeping track of every 2tc
do they actually wtf
snow skiff
Not anymore
raw herald
Idk probably not seriously
snow skiff
We got rid of like half of them a month ago
signal aspen
About a ✨ spreadsheet ✨
whose idea was that
warm nimbus
We got rid of like half of them a month ago
why
hardy spear
We got rid of like half of them a month ago
so youre one of them?
raw herald
Imagine a server that if you posted a 32 heat win, 10 people would reply “free”
signal aspen
Imagine a server that if you posted a 32 heat win, 10 people would reply “free”
im gonna start replying to every win in #h1-victory-boasting with free
raw herald
True
hardy spear
im gonna start replying to every win in <#725021639506526249> with free
im never sending anything in there ever again
ill get a sub 9 second run and keep it to myself
warm nimbus
im gonna start replying to every win in <#725021639506526249> with free
same
signal aspen
did he actually
snow skiff
@patent mesa exposed for making a btd6 spreadsheet server
warm nimbus
No randy msde the server
oh huh
wait so it was just exephur that made the sheet?
but no longer has the sheet?
raw herald
Had to make a new sheet
hardy spear
monkey gaming
raw herald
Back before powercreep, a new 2tc was exciting
hardy spear
i got the game when it was on sale for like £2, played 40 hours in a week and then forgot about it
raw herald
New 2tc means a new 2 tower combo that beats chimps, the hardest game mode
warm nimbus
oh ok
raw herald
i got the game when it was on sale for like £2, played 40 hours in a week and th...
Based
snow skiff
Imagine a server that if you posted a 32 heat win, 10 people would reply “free”
If it was possible it was probably free
warm nimbus
so a combination that beats chimps on like monkey lane wouldnt be a new 2tc on like whatever x short map
raw herald
It would be an alt
formal sinew
Btd6 hero main?
raw herald
Quincy, because nothing gets past his bow
signal aspen
Btd6 hero main?
quandale dingle
raw herald
Real answer would be psi
formal sinew
His name eludes me rn
warm nimbus
Real answer would be psi
what does pressure have to do with this?
signal aspen
real answer is probably jimin from bts
raw herald
F/A
hardy spear
His name eludes me rn
sisyphus
warm nimbus
His name eludes me rn
geraly?
snow skiff
Btd6 hero main?
I like tainted jacob
formal sinew
...
signal aspen
i like kendrick lamar duckworth
formal sinew
I regret asking now
raw herald
I like ski lift shoe
signal aspen
I regret asking now
good
snow skiff
Hi aoeui
hardy spear
the iron giant gotta be my favourite monkey
raw herald
What does etienne say when he temporarily forgets French then remembers it again
warm nimbus
ok but on a serious note geraldo is probably the best
raw herald
ayo, Oui?
warm nimbus
that is, geraldo rivera who is an American journalist, attorney, author, political commentator, and former television host. He hosted the tabloid talk show Geraldo from 1987 to 1998. He gained publicity with the live TV special The Mystery of Al Capone's Vaults. Rivera hosted the news magazine program Geraldo at Large, hosts the occasional broadcast of Geraldo Rivera Reports (in lieu of hosting At Large), and appears regularly on Fox News programs such as The Five.
signal aspen
What does etienne say when he temporarily forgets French then remembers it again
I don't get why people put hot sauce in the fridge. Wouldn't that make it cold sauce?
iirc
raw herald
Hm
snow skiff
I don't get why people put hot sauce in the fridge. Wouldn't that make it cold s...
Yeah that's why you put it in the microwave when u want to use it
hardy spear
breaking news: local gamer discovers sunlight
loud citrus
maybe i should go outside
good one
raw herald
Can’t touch grass anymore, already cleared 10 times 
loud citrus
Btw which dash is the best
snow skiff
Can't touch grass cause there ain't any where i am
loud citrus
My opinion its the athenas dash
signal aspen
idk man as
raw herald
Athena or Poseidon
mint coral
Someone
raw herald
With
warm nimbus
idk man as
im not sure dude
snow skiff
HUNTER DASH !!!!!
loud citrus
HUNTER DASH !!!!!
nah
raw herald
🧢
warm nimbus
Can't touch grass cause there ain't any where i am
damn wheres that, alpha centauri?
loud citrus
athena dash is fricking awesome
signal aspen
idk man as
warm nimbus
someone who
hardy spear
has over
loud citrus
same goes as athenas call
warm nimbus
wait its someone with not someone who has
loud citrus
?
warm nimbus
mb i messed it up
mint coral
?
Idk man as someone with around 10 40 Heat runs under my belt I will literally always take Divine Dash over pretty much everything. Unless the build really requires a specific dash to create a broken interaction, Divine Dash is good with every build, every weapon, and is simply incredible. I agree with the top post of this comment chain that 8.5 is a little weird for easily the best Dash in the game.
warm nimbus
?
I’m not sure dude, personally I’ve completed 32+ heat numerous times, there isn’t a situation where I wouldn’t take divine dash. Except for a few specific scenarios, divine dash is undoubtedly the best, most versatile dash boon that the game has to offer. Me and the most voted contributor to this post are on the same wavelength, 85% is simply too low for what has got to be the best boon in the game.
hardy spear
no they just typed this up now
warm nimbus
(copypasta)
bruh stop lying to new people lmao
raw herald
warm nimbus
its cracked
I disagree, I've escaped below 41 heat and above 39 heat about 10 times and i prefer divine dash over other dashes 10 times out of 10. Disregarding the small number of cases where other dashes are better, divine dash is an amazing and nearly unrivaled dash boon. I am with the original poster of this thread that 0.85 is innacurate for what is obviously the greatest dash boon in the game.
warm nimbus
it depends on the weapon
signal aspen
yeah
warm nimbus
i like going with chaos shield
absolutely chaos. chaos is by far the best shield aspect and dont let anyone tell you otherwise. chaos has no downsides, while zeus does have a downside, and its that your special moves slower. being able to actually deal damage with your special is completely irrelevant if its slow and impossible to use, but having more specials is clearly better. what even is a "blitz disc" anyway? what a terrible name. "bonus shields" is the stuff im after. just think how much cooler it is to be able to throw 6 shields at once like captain america compared to just lazily sliding your shield along the ground. and dont even get me started on the design of the shields. the aspect of chaos' design on the shield is clearly surperior, because it is one big eye, while zeus has two small eyes. who doesnt like big eyes? not me! and also, chaos (the character) is just objectively cooler and more egg than zeus, who is neither cool nor egg. this is why the aspect of zeus on aegis, the shield of chaos, is clearly worse than the aspect of chaos on aegis, the shield of chaos. i mean, the aspect is even named after the original owner of the shield! it clearly gets bonus points for that. beowulf is even worse. its way too slow and doesnt deal any damage whatsoever. i tested the dps of beowulf vs chaos shield on skelly and determined that chaos shield was actually way faster and was clearly easier to use. and realistically, the size of beowulfs cast makes it almost impossible to use. its so small that youd never see any real use of it. chaos shield on the other hand is so versatile with its shield throwing ability that goes much farther. the special on beowulf is absolute trash in comparison, and thats something you should really consider when choosing which aspect is better. the best cast, normally (slicing shot) is somehow terrible on beo and i dont even want to try any of the other casts for fear of how bad they are. zagreus is just boring. who thought adding more damage would be more fun?
sorry, you just keep saying stuff that theres a copypasta for
mint coral
Was it always this large
warm nimbus
dont mention special only rama
loud citrus
absolutely chaos. chaos is by far the best shield aspect and dont let anyone tel...
thats big
mint coral
It feels longer
warm nimbus
Was it always this large
yes
signal aspen
Was it always this large
it gets bigger every time
warm nimbus
i couldnt fit more because of the 2k character limit
i should get nitro just so i can expand it
snow skiff
Divine dash breaks records. Tidal dash breaks records. Drunken dash breaks the rules.
loud citrus
i couldnt fit more because of the 2k character limit
u type really fast gotta say
raw herald
Nasty dash
signal aspen
i should get nitro just so i can expand it
you should just link a word document everytime
warm nimbus
u type really fast gotta say
thanks my pb is 900 wpm
raw herald
Mine is 55
loud citrus
cap
signal aspen
idk hata tell you either
loud citrus
idk what to tell you man just get better
he will become from zero to hero
hardy spear
Idk man as someone with around 10 40 Heat runs under my belt I will literally al...
coming from someone who possesses a greater number than 9 runs i which the heat pact has been set to be 8 heat higher than the requirement for skelly's last prize, my opinion differs as ,given the opportunity, divine dash is not a choice but a lifestyle due to the definitive fact that it outperforms all alternatives by a significant margin (granted, disregarding unique scenarios where a differing boon would compliment my build more suitably) therefore, i have concluded thus: a rating of 8.5 is substantially lower than my enlightened expectations and does not suffice for a boon of this calibre
sorry im very bored
loud citrus
lol
warm nimbus
coming from someone who possesses a greater number than 9 runs i which the heat...
you messed up a comma
hardy spear
die
snow skiff
Three times not the charm
loud citrus
whats the best olymian keepsake
snow skiff
Lambert plum
loud citrus
i think its athena or demeter
warm nimbus
whats the best olymian keepsake
plume and take it the whole way so by the end of the run you have common pos attack on fists and drunken dash
loud citrus
big words coming out
warm nimbus
and a lot of dodge chance so thats really nice
loud citrus
its solid with aspect of zagreus
hardy spear
i think its athena or demeter
what do you see in demeter she's the only one i haven't maxed the keepsake for
loud citrus
malphon
warm nimbus
what do you see in demeter she's the only one i haven't maxed the keepsake for
snow burst and rav will are pretty good
also rare frost flourish is the best eris special boon
loud citrus
what do you see in demeter she's the only one i haven't maxed the keepsake for
i like her chill effect, there is a boon that can increse its damage
so i found it very solid
hardy spear
also rare frost flourish is the best eris special boon
is it? i thought itd be artemis or aphro
patent mesa
what do you see in demeter she's the only one i haven't maxed the keepsake for
chill is good for high heat
warm nimbus
is it? i thought itd be artemis or aphro
yep it is just ask @signal aspen or someone
hell agree
loud citrus
i found artemis in a very weird spot
signal aspen
is it? i thought itd be artemis or aphro
wmic had eris wr with frost flourish and no dash for a while
must be the best boon in the game
loud citrus
sometimes he gives me W and sometimes she isnt that much good
patent mesa
jesus I clicked on @signal aspen's profile and thought the about me said dartling dartling dartling
freaking btd6 reference
signal aspen
bruh
loud citrus
@warm nimbus we are both in a dead cells server
signal aspen
me too
warm nimbus
<@450317477717475329> we are both in a dead cells server
wait am i still in that server
warm nimbus
didnt mean to be
hardy spear
i tried getting into dead cells a couple times and just didnt feel the motivation to play it for too long
warm nimbus
mustve clicked someone different
loud citrus
u re still in it
signal aspen
i found artemis in a very weird spot
support fire is goated
loud citrus
probably some glitch
signal aspen
say what you feel about support fire i wont send copypasta 🙂
loud citrus
support fire is goated
ye its cracked
signal aspen
Support Fire isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a boon with such an ability and damage with artemis? Support Fire puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a boon with its power and enhancement of the game again. Merciful End breaks records. Mirage Shot breaks records. Suppot Fire breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.
hardy spear
instantaneous
loud citrus
but other abilities are nich
warm nimbus
Support Fire isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw ...
suppot fire
hardy spear
i used to think support fire was so good
warm nimbus
i used to think support fire was so good
wdym its amazing
esp on weapons like hestia
hardy spear
wdym its amazing
yeah ofc im saying i used to think it was good now i think its perfect
loud citrus
on every weapon its amazing
hardy spear
game breaking stuff
warm nimbus
i also frequently take support fire on gy, the damage increase there is just insane
hardy spear
shes got one of the best % boosts to your attack and special because crit
patent mesa
Support Fire isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw ...
please tell me this is real
hardy spear
i want a 40 page document full of these passionate hades players
warm nimbus
please tell me this is real
...you do know about that copypasta, right?
tepid light
she doesnt fit my playstyle
i too hate doing large amounts of damage and oneshotting enemies (JOKING)
patent mesa
...you do know about that copypasta, right?
afraid not
loud citrus
i too hate doing large amounts of damage and oneshotting enemies (JOKING)
no, that little buff can be a lot but i just dont like her
signal aspen
please tell me this is real
its real
loud citrus
and its just chance of 10%
patent mesa
aw I was hoping it was real
warm nimbus
aw I was hoping it was real
wdym
patent mesa
like actually about support fire
warm nimbus
oh yeah sadly not
patent mesa
because it sounds exactly like stuff I've read on the sub about support fire
warm nimbus
actually lol
patent mesa
"it's the most broken boon in the game because my monkey brain likes it"
hardy spear
it's so visually stimulating there's no way this boon is bad
signal aspen
so true
hardy spear
the only reason i dash is because zagreus looks cool when he does it
patent mesa
same
loud citrus
20% x 5 = 100%, so um u gotta land at most 5 and at least 1 succsesful hit to get critical attack, so its rng based, when u can in mirror unlock when u have 2 or more effects on foe/enemy u deal 40% more to them, thats why i like athena and demeter.🤓
patent mesa
dio dash best dash because neuron
hardy spear
20% x 5 = 100%, so um u gotta land at most 5 and at least 1 succsesful hit to ge...
bad math me no like
downvoted
lean timber
ratio tbh
loud citrus
sad truth
signal aspen
20% x 5 = 100%, so um u gotta land at most 5 and at least 1 succsesful hit to ge...
facts bruv
raw herald
Fax
hardy spear
they despised him for he spoke the truth
loud citrus
thats wild
signal aspen
how the hell you gon' ooplesnuuts in the fu'kalang jeuw'klenoots if you aint got no pooplesnuupes?
loud citrus
lol
hardy spear
never truer
lean timber
tepid light
lost with hades spear again
but i'm starting to understand how you're supposed to play it
rustic vale
20% x 5 = 100%, so um u gotta land at most 5 and at least 1 succsesful hit to ge...
Your actual chance for at least 1 crit here is about 67%
If you hit 5 times
high island
No, it's about 67.2%. 
dusky solar
🤓
rustic vale
“About 67%”
high island
No.
rustic vale
Should I have said 67.232%
high island
About 67.232%.
dusky solar
what the hell am i reading
anyway
second time playing FO2, just beat ely boss only taking like 4 hits
rustic vale
It is not about 67.232%, it is 67.232%
your average chance to crit at least once if you hit 5 times with 20% crit chance
dusky solar
my cast is doing 800 damage even when all potential bonuses are offline
signal aspen
its 50%, you either crit or you dont
dusky solar
i beat fo2 with rr and stygian soul on pos sword
latent moon
@dusky solar why do you refuse to play beo
patent mesa
if it's so easy just increase heat until it's hard again
dusky solar
jump to 50 heat
ive told you a million times im not even close to maxing everything yet
latent moon
well the 50 part was a joke, jumping heat wasn't really a joke lol
dusky solar
i am still not doing it
latent moon
tepid light
question: if i have slicing shot and hunting blades, and i sell slicing shot, do i lose hunting blades as well
signal aspen
no
tepid light
well, it's a common-rarity slicing shot
latent moon
does rarity really matter on the rift
tepid light
so i'm intending on forcing ares and getting a better-rarity one
latent moon
are your other cores filled
tepid light
yep
tepid light
eh i don't think i'll bother actually
mint coral
Rarity barely matters
tepid light
i just really hated seeing the common boon
latent moon
20 common vs 24 epic
mint coral
Just get your charon wells/chaos
signal aspen
force demeter for rare crop
latent moon
based
tepid light
force demeter for rare crop
alright i gotchu
dusky solar
i did NOT think that through
yknow,
not 2 minutes ago i had THREE death defiances
now i have one
reason?
mint coral
Rip
warm nimbus
ive told you a million times im not even close to maxing everything yet
the whole point if the pact is that if the game is too easy you can make it harder lmao
in precisely the way you want
mint coral
Wait you know about what chambers you fight the bosses or no?
So you can plan around chaos curses
dusky solar
nope im too lazy to count chambers
warm nimbus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012840822145810435/1012904343403503686/u...
yeah halting is bad but its even worse on rr
signal aspen
arty attack nice
warm nimbus
nope im too lazy to count chambers
they are c14, 24, and 36
tepid light
quick spin and massive spin on hades spear
feelsgood
dusky solar
one time i had a 69 chamber run
warm nimbus
or if you play modded you can have it always showing in the top right
which is amazing
what a good qol
signal aspen
its also cheating
mint coral
You can press the boon menu during the screen transition so it shows up without losing time
dusky solar
okay, hades time
mint coral
Get him
dusky solar
because i need to learn fo2
mental vale
😭
dusky solar
i honestly waited way too long to start learning it
should i have atleast started with FO1? probably
but
mental vale
yknow every now and then i turn towards the heavens and thank god that the sgg devs didnt make fo default in hellmode
dusky solar
i refuse
i will make fo2 standard in every run of mine until i can surpass it
anyway
what aspect next?
warm nimbus
beo
mint coral
Achilles
warm nimbus
just increase the heat to the point that its difficult lol
signal aspen
jimmy johns
dusky solar
ill do achilles
mint coral
Yay
warm nimbus
if beo is so easy then do 32 with it
dusky solar
just increase the heat to the point that its difficult lol
stop requesting that, im not playing beo
signal aspen
if beo is so easy then do 32 with it
if beo is so easy then do 64 heat with it
warm nimbus
if beo is so easy then do 64 heat with it
i never said it was easy
anyways thats only twice as much heat so only twice as difficult
warm nimbus
bruh
dusky solar
you got called out fam
lean timber
"i did not say x"
"you said x"
haha me so smart
warm nimbus
huh apparently 145 bpm streams are slower than i thought
lean timber
leave us memory challenged fellas alone
signal aspen
huh apparently 145 bpm streams are slower than i thought
How many beats per minute is that
dusky solar
145
warm nimbus
How many beats per minute is that
funnily enough actually 580 lmao
latent moon
I mean beo is easy at low heat but if you jump the heat it becomes much more difficult
At the same time tho it still nukes, the only thing that makes high heat beo difficult is probably like not knowing fo2
TD if you're not grouping properly I guess
Or bad rng
But beo probably handles JS with TD pretty well if you do 32 heat lol
dusky solar
UGH why do i always get exclusive acces in styx only
latent moon
Next time get it in tart ez
latent moon
Spam the special and take half an hour lmao
dusky solar
im really bad at FO2 styx, im getting poisoned so much
latent moon
That's normal lol
dusky solar
oh hell yes plus two pom to drunken strike
latent moon
10 per tick now?
dusky solar
mhm
latent moon
Very nice
dusky solar
FO2 should be 8 heat not 6 just saying
latent moon
Hangover poms are so good
latent moon
FO2 should be 8 heat not 6 just saying
Cp and js shouldn't be 1 lmao
dusky solar
agreed
latent moon
Maybe js actually but CP is absolutely horrid
dusky solar
especially since CP removes fiery prescence, they really need to QOL patsh so fiery works on 100%hp targets and not untouched targets
latent moon
Cp is 15% more hp
tepid light
is it weird that i still like fated authority more than persuasion, despite having tried both?
i just really like the way authority lets you streamline your boons and the gods you get, and just swap out bad room rewards
dusky solar
is it weird that i still like fated authority more than persuasion, despite havi...
i also prefer authority
signal aspen
is it weird that i still like fated authority more than persuasion, despite havi...
Getting specific God's with authority is pretty hard
dusky solar
but yall told me to take persuasion so persuasion it is
signal aspen
Getting specific boons with authority is pretty hard
Enjoy resetting a run because you didn't get the correct core boon to start
warm nimbus
ok im getting really pissed my roommate will come into the room, turn on, the light, and leave like 5 seconds later without turning it off
dusky solar
Getting specific God's with authority is pretty hard
yeah but an okay boon is better than a less than a boons worth of money
latent moon
What
dusky solar
ok im getting really pissed my roommate will come into the room, turn on, the li...
tell him to eat his sock
signal aspen
ok im getting really pissed my roommate will come into the room, turn on, the li...
Un roommate your roommate
warm nimbus
but yall told me to take persuasion so persuasion it is
persuasion also gets more value from keys which is really nice
dusky solar
got boiling blooded, stuck on a pot, and hit with two ticks of the lazer
signal aspen
Rip
dusky solar
going pretty good hbu
tepid light
authority has more uses, and once again lets you just entirely swap bad room rewards like money into something far better
and i'm not sure if it's just pure coincidence, but i've noticed a tendency where rerolling a god with authority grants me a boon from a god i already have, which tends to be nice
warm nimbus
also one of the reasons persuasion isnt very good is because often youll just roll like coins into dio or some random thing
dusky solar
i just need to keep hangover going and poke when possible whilst spamming the OP cast of the day
warm nimbus
and most gold laurels are pretty good anyways
latent moon
authority has more uses, and once again lets you just entirely swap bad room rew...
Money is absolutely amazing
warm nimbus
no reason to roll away like a pom trying to get really lucky
signal aspen
authority has more uses, and once again lets you just entirely swap bad room rew...
It doesn't really matter since you can just force God's and then reroll their boons
signal aspen
Enjoy resetting a run because you didn't get the correct core boon to start
And again my main argument is this
warm nimbus
authority has more uses, and once again lets you just entirely swap bad room rew...
if you have 4 unique gods then youll only be offered boons from those 4
signal aspen
This is the worst part imo
warm nimbus
has nothing to do with authority
warm nimbus
if you have 4 unique gods then youll only be offered boons from those 4
excluding hermes and chaos
tepid light
if you have 4 unique gods then youll only be offered boons from those 4
gotcha, so that's where that was coming from
dusky solar
because of the function where you are more likely to see a god whom you already have, authority is great because you can exclude a god you dislike from your run. ive done so a handful of times myself
tepid light
accidentally replied to the wrong post there, whoops
latent moon
Blue laurel rewards aren't even bad with the contract upgrades
warm nimbus
because of the function where you are more likely to see a god whom you already ...
you arent more likely to see a boon from a god you already have
until you have 4 its completely random
dusky solar
you can still stop yourself from being locked with a crap god
warm nimbus
any eris speed player will lament to you about the bajillion timed they were never offered zeus so they couldnt get jolted
dusky solar
cough cough athena* cough
latent moon
You could roll away the a god you're forced to take a guess but that's relatively niche compared to other uses persuasion has
signal aspen
*cough cough* athena* cough
What's wrong with athena
tepid light
well, i guess i could make the "i play how i want" argument, but i also don't want to shaft myself
maybe i'm just too used to authority, so persuasion feels weird
warm nimbus
you can still stop yourself from being locked with a crap god
true but most builds never need more than 2
the only case where you do need more than 2 that i can think of is like eris
tepid light
i keep getting confused when i press g on a reward door and nothing happens
dusky solar
athena has great ability boons but everything else is trash
warm nimbus
and even then other special boons are fine
latent moon
the only case where you do need more than 2 that i can think of is like eris
Chiron because without tdash Styx absolutely sucks
warm nimbus
athena has great ability boons but everything else is trash
lol just wait until you start playing high heat
tepid light
athena has great ability boons but everything else is trash
this is a weird thing to say, sounds like you're saying "except for most of the stuff that's great, the rest is bad"
dusky solar
yeah but other gods have significantly less garbage
warm nimbus
not true
dusky solar
yes true
tepid light
do they, though?
signal aspen
Just in general Athena is good
warm nimbus
ares has the most garbage out of any god by far
and dont even get me started about zeus on beo
signal aspen
Demeter too honestly
dusky solar
except demeter demeter has a lot of trash too
warm nimbus
Demeter too honestly
dem has snow burst/rav will/rare crop
and... nourished soul ig?
signal aspen
Nourished soul sucks
signal aspen
Can't even sell it
warm nimbus
any weapon really
warm nimbus
Can't even sell it
unpommable and also helps keep hc up
good for casual play too
not high heat though
tepid light
well i guess i'll stick with persuasion then
as weird as it feels to go from authority to it
i'll get used to it
dusky solar
i just tossed achilles on one end of the arena and spammed cast with auto reload and second cast, and if he got close i just dashed to spear and got out lmao
signal aspen
unpommable and also helps keep hc up
Literally just don't get hit lmoa
tepid light
i just tossed achilles on one end of the arena and spammed cast with auto reload...
you play achilles quite a different way than me
dusky solar
achilles is cheese, but its a fun kind of cheese
signal aspen
just like beo
dusky solar
you play achilles quite a different way than me
i am oft a very aggressive player, but if i get in over my head you can bet your ass im taking a passive approach
warm nimbus
Literally just don't get hit lmoa
bruh
warm nimbus
i just tossed achilles on one end of the arena and spammed cast with auto reload...
lol def not standard
normally in achilles speedruns what you actually do is die
signal aspen
Everytime I think about Achilles I just see 185 losing the modded all weps wr to dad
mint coral
Pay your dds taxes
dusky solar
lernie owes me child support
signal aspen
Remember when latte died to lernie like 5 times in a gdq race
warm nimbus
or maybe they were just britain post ww2 tax rates
warm nimbus
Remember when latte died to lernie like 5 times in a gdq race
bruh yeah lmao
signal aspen
Bruh
warm nimbus
Latt no latte wtf
you can edit the message
signal aspen
Too much work
lean timber
literally
signal aspen
I'd rather spam chat
warm nimbus
press the up arrow on your keyboard
signal aspen
How do you do that on a phone
lean timber
mobile users:
dusky solar
really not even a lol for saying lernie owes me child support, im gonna need better jokes, tough crowd
latent moon
i am oft a very aggressive player, but if i get in over my head you can bet your...
play full aggro beo
signal aspen
stop using mobile
SHE SAID POBILE LAUGH A THIS USER
dusky solar
id rather not
warm nimbus
SHE SAID POBILE LAUGH A THIS USER
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
WHAT A JOYOUS AND FUNNY TIME
latent moon
HAHAHAHHAHA
dusky solar
WAIT WE HAVE PRONOUN ROLES HERE ffs ima get one
latent moon
Lmfao
warm nimbus
bruh
tepid light
anyway, time to do em4 mm guan yu
latent moon
What's a bad flare on beo that isn't thunder
Wanna try a 32 run with it
tepid light
this is gonna hurt
signal aspen
What's a bad flare on beo that isn't thunder
Wanna try a 32 run with it
Icy
dusky solar
whats the "transistor" role? is it the funny trans role or something else
latent moon
I've done icy before but not on 32
latent moon
Lmao
signal aspen
Just call it the trans role
latent moon
You could take the transistor role and make it trans
dusky solar
its the transgender role now
latent moon
Nothing stopping you
signal aspen
It makes your name blue
dusky solar
ohh i like blue
signal aspen
That's one of the colors on the trans flag right
signal aspen
There's like a red one
warm nimbus
its a game
dusky solar
ohh pyre is pinkish
tepid light
oh stella, you really are something else
warm nimbus
more of an orange
dusky solar
oh stella, you really are something else
SHUT UP I LIKE WOMEN
warm nimbus
or... maybe a pale orange?
tepid light
SHUT UP I LIKE WOMEN
uh huh
signal aspen
I like men
latent moon
Wait is icy flare only bad because of pom scaling
There's gotta be worse flares than that right
Hunters?
warm nimbus
nah hunters decent
warm nimbus
bad pom scaling is really bad
dusky solar
flare ❓
dusky solar
oh right
latent moon
Because casts go boom
dusky solar
i forgored beo calls casts flares
latent moon
I'll do slicing flare 32
warm nimbus
anyways yeah icy/thunder/slicing are bottom 3 flares
latent moon
And maybe 40
signal aspen
anyways yeah icy/thunder/slicing are bottom 3 flares
Flood should be there
latent moon
45 if I'm feeling spicy
dusky solar
hows Cshot beo?
latent moon
Good
signal aspen
Best hammer
warm nimbus
Flood should be there
oh yeah good point it has lowest base damage
warm nimbus
hows Cshot beo?
absolutely insane
dusky solar
huh
latent moon
hows Cshot beo?
Base 160 damage when loaded with a flare lol
warm nimbus
its absurd how good cshot is on beo
warm nimbus
Base 160 damage when loaded with a flare lol
and 240 with fiery and hc
latent moon
Yeah
warm nimbus
cshot is so absurdly good
latent moon
And then when it crits 
warm nimbus
literally i cant say enough how good cshot is
signal aspen
Dread flight tho
latent moon
Based
signal aspen
SHEEEEEESH
lean timber
cshot is the equivalent of rama flurry
latent moon
cshot is the equivalent of rama flurry
Cshot is equivalent of exploding rama if it didn't take 4 centuries to charge
lean timber
no i've never seen rama flurry in my life
latent moon
Oh yeah rama flurry actually kinda sucks lol
signal aspen
40 damage shots 😍
lean timber
i'm
latent moon
Lmao
latent moon
True
warm nimbus
yeah @dull niche isnt hera bad
latent moon
Hera is dogwater
warm nimbus
anyways i may be wrong but i think cshot makes a bigger difference to beo than flurry does to hera lol
high island
yeah <@144948371428212737> isnt hera bad
lean timber
i'm not here to say what does what i'm just saying they're both hugely impactful hammers that are good is all
warm nimbus
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523774570394681344/927593620184399882/S...
flurry hera moment
i love that thats in the wr
lean timber
i do that all the time lmao
yeah flurry kinda
lets you do that sometimes
at least cshot doesn't do that
latent moon
If you miss the cshot with beo the flare will probably hit lmao
If it's DC tho you're just sad
warm nimbus
dc on beo
god can i say once again that i love that rama literally doesnt even bat an eye at dc
it is literally the easiest 2 heat for rama
lean timber
rama says NO! to overbearing pacts
warm nimbus
it doesnt at all make a difference to how you play
latent moon
dc on beo <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Ap2 dc1 50 heat moment lol
warm nimbus
Ap2 dc1 50 heat moment lol
true
honestly i shouldve just done cp2 dc0 for 50 lol
i took a look at my 50 gameplay recently
dusky solar
hey which aspect should i go next
latent moon
Wait how tf did I manage that on my 50 run when my atk did all the damage and my flare did like nothing
warm nimbus
most of my cshots just hit dc shields
signal aspen
hey which aspect should i go next
Talos
warm nimbus
hey which aspect should i go next
b eris
lean timber
mmm icy
latent moon
Rama
lean timber
rama woooo
warm nimbus
theres always b zag bow
dusky solar
same with rama that was earlier today
latent moon
Oh right
lean timber
woooooo
latent moon
Zag bow gaming
dusky solar
zag bow?
dusky solar
we can do that
lean timber
zagifer
warm nimbus
its pretty good
dusky solar
i am a zag bow enjoyer myself
latent moon
Get twin shot and easy game
warm nimbus
remember: twin > triple > perfect > point blank >>> everything else
lean timber
where is shackle anyway? hasn't been around in a while...
warm nimbus
where is shackle anyway? hasn't been around in a while...
bottom left
signal aspen
*remember*: twin > triple > perfect > point blank >>> everything else
Flurry and explosive get added in bc zag bow
dusky solar
*remember*: twin > triple > perfect > point blank >>> everything else
for non rama though???????
lean timber
bruh
latent moon
for non rama though???????
I mean same rule low-key applies lol
warm nimbus
where is shackle anyway? hasn't been around in a while...
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845087923779141682/1012930299174330441/unknown.png "hasnt been around in a while"
latent moon
Like aoeui said flurry and explosive work good too
warm nimbus
Flurry and explosive get added in bc zag bow
oh shoot yeah
dusky solar
mm
lean timber
twin is pretty much the universal best bow hammer. triple is ok for shotgunning, i don't care for it, but lots like it and it works so
dusky solar
flurry is neat
latent moon
i just generally dislike triple
You don't like how bow can become a melee aspect?
warm nimbus
for non rama though???????
sorry twin > triple > flurry > perfect > point blank > explosive >>> everything else
latent moon
I think I did 32 heat triple tho it's pretty good and doable
lean timber
yeah it is it just
dusky solar
lean timber
it's not a bow anymore
dusky solar
how shall i fill me pact today
warm nimbus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012840822145810435/1012930587482411019/u...
em2
lean timber
em3
dusky solar
ugh... fine...
latent moon
Td2
dusky solar
em2 lets do this
dusky solar
first room i get flurry, okay
latent moon
if you don't get sub 8 we're disowning you from this server
latent moon
first room i get flurry, okay
based
warm nimbus
first room i get flurry, okay
poggg
if you get twin in elysium its literally a free win
twin flurry zag bow is op
signal aspen
Explosive flurry tho
latent moon
i dislike flurry solely because i actually like power shotting and gives me more control over the aspect but i do recognize that it's actually good
warm nimbus
i thought they were mexclusive
signal aspen
is that even possible?
Yeah with mods
latent moon
true
warm nimbus
Yeah with mods
latent moon
flurry explosive gaming
latent moon
flurry explosive is like budget clockets if you turn off your brain for a bit
signal aspen
can flurry still technically dash strike
Yeah
dusky solar
okay cool
warm nimbus
yep so you still want hunter dash probably
not as important as with no flurry though
latent moon
what's your atk boon btw
dusky solar
havent found a decent atk boon eyt
high island
i dislike flurry solely because i actually like power shotting and gives me more...
Main issue for Zag Bow is you lose all the benefits from Dash-Strike bonuses, pretty much. For Hera that doesn't matter, and Chiron wants Special damage anyway.
warm nimbus
havent found a decent atk boon eyt
...what keepsake did you take at the start?
latent moon
wait so does flurry not work with dstrikes then
dusky solar
...what keepsake did you take at the start?
i forgot to switch off acron
warm nimbus
wait so does flurry not work with dstrikes then
it does
latent moon
because you're not getting the benefit from dstrike bonuses?
latent moon
ah makes sense
warm nimbus
i forgot to switch off acron
bruh
high island
Yeah, most of your attacks will be standing attacks.
latent moon
i forgot to switch off acron
if you started with the hammer you can give up the run and still be given the same hammer
high island
Just switch to Shackle if you don't have a good Attack boon. That'll do the trick.
warm nimbus
yeah but then no defensive keepsakes
latent moon
losing acorn for ely/dad is not fun
lean timber
grr my skill is terrible
i'm not grouping enough
or spreading shared suffering enough
i'm too used to low heat rama
high island
yeah but then no defensive keepsakes
It's fine.
dusky solar
ill lose acorn if i switch now
but i can do something like myrmidon or spearpoint instead
high island
You'll be fine. Just take Shackle and actually deal damage.
latent moon
or that
warm nimbus
do you have arty/aphro in your pool?
i mean tbh what id do is force one of them in aspho and then take hourglass in ely/styx
latent moon
i would've just given up the run and switched keepsakes once i noticed it
high island
What I would do is not forget to switch my keepsake before the run, but here we are.
latent moon
true
warm nimbus
i would've just given up the run and switched keepsakes once i noticed it
i mean same but too late now
latent moon
i mean same but too late now
tart takes like, 3 or 4 minutes with all the load times it's not that bad
warm nimbus
What I would do is not forget to switch my keepsake before the run, but here we ...
what id do is never actually beat dad and keep quick resetting for 3 hours so i dont have the opportunity to forget to switch my keepsake
i think thats definitely the best way to go about it
dusky solar
do you have arty/aphro in your pool?
currently i only have aphro and dem going
warm nimbus
hm id force arty or aphro in aspho then
probably aphro bc youre likely to get rarity bonus from midboss
patent mesa
oh I love that aspect of asphodel
winter harbor
I started a new save file and wow, I feel so weak
patent mesa
your keepsake will usually be miniboss
winter harbor
Because it was a while since I last played and I was rusty
warm nimbus
oh I love that aspect of asphodel
yep same
winter harbor
Definitely think I made it further compared to my first run on the other
warm nimbus
anyways you have a really high chance for epic aphro attack if you take aphro in aspho
so take that
dusky solar
i have forced aphro and refreshing nec, SURELY I CAN GET AN EPIC BOON NOW, RIGHT GAME?
latent moon
Definitely think I made it further compared to my first run on the other
if you get charged shot on your shield on run 3 and have aphro/athena keepsake you can definitely win on run 3 lol
latent moon
i have forced aphro and refreshing nec, SURELY I CAN GET AN EPIC BOON NOW, RIGHT...
rare aphro isn't even that bad
common is just sad
also you get used to having crap rarities the longer you play lmao
latent moon
i mean pride is a scam
warm nimbus
i have forced aphro and refreshing nec, SURELY I CAN GET AN EPIC BOON NOW, RIGHT...
you absolutely will lmao
lean timber
legacy u mean
latent moon
legacy u mean
both
latent moon
absolutely horrid
warm nimbus
worst mirror talents
selection bias moment
dusky solar
are YOU
lean timber
mirror of night gives worst ability ever, asked to leave zagreus' bedchambers
latent moon
selection bias moment
yeah let's ignore the run where i got all epic boons except like 1 and focus on the one where i got all commons and 3 duos
latent moon
BASED
warm nimbus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012840822145810435/1012935218430214144/u...
reroll
dusky solar
I DONT WANT ANY OF THIS
warm nimbus
but that is an amazing screen
latent moon
reroll gaming
lean timber
i have a few of those screenshots
latent moon
i've never gotten anything insane like that
dusky solar
warm nimbus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012840822145810435/1012935434583670784/u...
rerolls are good
dusky solar
im gonna throw a fit is the game ever does that to me again
warm nimbus
this is why you take persuasion
latent moon
lmfao this is why we take persuasion
lean timber
yeah that's a Low Heat Gaming™️ thing you wouldn't get it
latent moon
getting the god you want don't mean crap if you dont get the boon you want
although even if you reroll you still might not get it but whatever
warm nimbus
i have a few of those screenshots
also i think thats because the game rolls replaces then duos then legs
warm nimbus
getting the god you want don't mean crap if you dont get the boon you want
exactly
lean timber
back to my 50s
latent moon
reroll the next door until you get aphro
and get cold embrace with no atk still
and sell both for major stonks
warm nimbus
anyways hopefully you get twin shot in ely
dusky solar
sure ill take a divine dash why the heck not
latent moon
idk man as
winter harbor
It looks like I’ll at least make it up to the first boss
warm nimbus
ddash good
warm nimbus
It looks like I’ll at least make it up to the first boss
ff?
winter harbor
I doubt I’ll win but I can try
latent moon
fun
warm nimbus
...so ff, standing for fresh file
lol
honestly reaching surface on ff is really easy
latent moon
winter harbor
Eh, it’s been a while, not like I’m speedrunning it
warm nimbus
actually beating dad is really hard though
latent moon
i've actually never done a true fresh file with sword recently
lean timber
furious RAGE
latent moon
i died on c2 i think and then happened to have a key and got bow
warm nimbus
again i put difficulty of most of ff at like 20-30 heat and then dad fight is like 45-50
latent moon
and reached surface because bow is safe unlike sword
lean timber
for the first time EVER i've gotten the chance to get a dd and i DIDN'T DIE
I HAVE DIED
in like EVERY CHAMBER BEFORE
but not this one.
latent moon
is this tart
lean timber
yep.
warm nimbus
for the first time EVER i've gotten the chance to get a dd and i DIDN'T DIE
rippp
latent moon
it do be like that
lean timber
sigh.
lean timber
oh well... at least i get [checks boons] divine flourish
latent moon
% special rama let's go
winter harbor
Yep, just died to Meg
latent moon
based
dusky solar
IMAGINE IF THERE WAS A RARITY FOR HAMMERS
im kidding dont
it hurt my brain
twin shot ayo
dusky solar
i just got hit three times by one shockwave 💀
latent moon
if i were to do a 32 heat beo run with slicing flare and no mirage shot, what keepsake would i take into aspho
actually dumb question i'd take aphro for cshot damage
warm nimbus
i won again
show victory screen
latent moon
bruh the one time i get epic rarity on atk and special is the time im doing slicing flare
aight then
at this point i'm running weird zag shield this is pain
tepid light
FINALLY
finally beat dad with hades spear
i just decided to play it like i do achilles, with some adjustments
worked a lot better than trying some weird spin attack - special build
latent moon
hades spear is pain
dusky solar
i really like it
latent moon
you can't get a spin off on the dad fight if you're running fo2 lmao
dusky solar
i wont claim to be good at it, but i like it
dusky solar
you can't get a spin off on the dad fight if you're running fo2 lmao
i can
latent moon
quick spin would help but also at the same time i'd rather special spam with exploding launcher
latent moon
i can
the timing is too tight for me to do it consistently
ah crap i forgot to take fodder boons for UC
tepid light
quick spin would help but also at the same time i'd rather special spam with exp...
i was fortunate enough to have both massive spin and quick spin
dusky solar
you gotta do it just after his two cast jab attack
tepid light
so i just hit him with spin to apply the debuff, then wailed on him
dusky solar
he usually stops right after it
tepid light
didn't use my special once during the fight
latent moon
dw i'm never playing hades spear ever again
dusky solar
you can also after dashing away from his sweep, charge and dash with max spin towards him, but i find that to usually be met with beting stabbed in the boobs
austere loom
latent moon
crush shot is best
trippy is alright but also you need to use stygian
and high roll chaos for more casts
dusky solar
pos cast is funny but not optimal
lean timber
where's the vent channel i need it lmao
dusky solar
here if you want