#h1-discussion

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strong ridge
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yes

tepid light
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on a different note, i got rare crop in tartarus this run

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and now i have heroic boons on both my strike and special

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on arthur

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this feels so good

strong ridge
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uu

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time for pommage

tepid light
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i got eurydice too, so i got some levels off her

strong ridge
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big

tepid light
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god i love arthur so much

strong ridge
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is fun

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thonker

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sadly it best used as discount nem

tepid light
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also, almost 300 hp at the end of asphodel

strong ridge
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100 more

austere loom
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I keep getting bass

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never got anything less than perfect catch

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is the sturgeon that rare?

strong ridge
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luck of the draw

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try to get big catch from pos

tepid light
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strike is demeter, special is zeus

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this run is hilarious

austere loom
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I've got a bunch of flameaters, Scyllascions, Seamares and Stonewhals

strong ridge
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maybe th eone build where that duo does anything lol

austere loom
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I think I'm only missing 2 fish

strong ridge
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poger

austere loom
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the common fish in Chaos

tepid light
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i mean it's doing absolute tons of damage here

austere loom
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and the Sturgeon or something

warm nimbus
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the difference is that js actively makes the game more difficult while td does literally nothing if you can comfortably beat it within the timeframe

patent mesa
tepid light
latent moon
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Jury summons is an alright pact for low heat considering that you're still very consistent at clearing enemies, once you start going higher jury summons is gonna suck

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Still not a great pact for 1 heat but it's eh for low heat

warm nimbus
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js is still bad at low heat because its just more opportunities to get hit

patent mesa
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:rofxic:

warm nimbus
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even without td its a dangerous pact

latent moon
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I mean yeah but it's not as bad compared to taking JS in high heat

patent mesa
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imo at low heat bosses are far more threatening than anything else

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so JS is comparatively weaker than at heats where BP2 comes on

warm nimbus
patent mesa
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but the relative weakness of regular encounters means buffing them is less of a big deal

latent moon
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Back then I took JS because I was consistent at clearing enemies so it was pretty easy for me

warm nimbus
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yes but its just worse than other options lol

patent mesa
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fine

latent moon
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Oh yeah definitely but it's not as bad as it seems

patent mesa
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JS is epic bodyslam damage and unironically I've started valuing that mechanic more and more

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taking advantage of it speeds up tartarus so much

warm nimbus
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i know you think js is fine and dandy at low heat but that is because you have beaten 50 multiple times and 55 lol

latent moon
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Not me and I think it's fine and dandy at low heat lmao

patent mesa
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I still think it's the case that JS is a whatever heat pre BP2

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only at BP2 do mobs get really nasty

warm nimbus
latent moon
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I mean yeah but only once

warm nimbus
patent mesa
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was that AP2 beo abuse

snow skiff
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and on arguably the best weapon lmao

latent moon
warm nimbus
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what a based pact

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but a 50 is a 50

patent mesa
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I don't think beo is the best 50 at all tbh

warm nimbus
patent mesa
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hestia is way better imo

warm nimbus
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dont discredit yourself

snow skiff
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crank up routine inspection so you can take off CF

latent moon
snow skiff
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heroic rav will and mirage shot

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obviously

patent mesa
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I had 20+ beo 50 attempts before I got lvl10 flare and RD

latent moon
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It's ap2 I'm not gonna find that

warm nimbus
snow skiff
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you problem imo

patent mesa
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lol

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I actually needed the hyper delivery too

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would've got wrecked without it

latent moon
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Well

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Just don't get hit idk

warm nimbus
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anyways i have class in 6 hours lol

strong ridge
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sad how most of high heat is just impossibly low rng

warm nimbus
strong ridge
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i mean supa high

warm nimbus
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like what, 55+?

strong ridge
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ye

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cranked heat

snow skiff
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just be retrash and roll with whatever you get

strong ridge
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ezpz

warm nimbus
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was about to say

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look at retrash runs, you dont need good rng to clear lol

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love the ap2 coin purse start strats

snow skiff
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#Guess The Aspect

patent mesa
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lucy

warm nimbus
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tempest striie wtf

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uhh... gilga?

patent mesa
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tbh that has lvl3 rare poseidon call so it's already a good build

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poseidon call is insanely good imo

warm nimbus
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oh yeah its great

snow skiff
warm nimbus
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nem wtf

patent mesa
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lmaooooo

warm nimbus
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how

patent mesa
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calculated risk hard carry

snow skiff
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thats cursed slash btw

latent moon
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I was looking back at my 50 clear to see what exactly I had and just realized I had common aphro flare that did 186 damage each what the hell was I on when I beat that bouldy

patent mesa
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unironically it's the poseidon call + rupture + dio dash combo

warm nimbus
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man is a literal god

patent mesa
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massive flat damage soup and spamming calls

warm nimbus
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you had a terrible build

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and that was your 8th try

patent mesa
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cracked

warm nimbus
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i took like 11 after 2 other 50s

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and my build was better than yours lol

patent mesa
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beo kinda hard

snow skiff
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imagine not just hardrolling everything good on your 2nd try

warm nimbus
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have you seen my nem 32?

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i quite literally got the boons

snow skiff
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unfortunate that it was 32

warm nimbus
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yeah

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i legit probably couldve gotten nem dad fight wr if i played better

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the build was so insanely cracked

patent mesa
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very poor ce use

snow skiff
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if i didn't do things that slowed me down it would've been wr 👉 👈

warm nimbus
warm nimbus
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it was abysmally awful

snow skiff
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i dont believe that i need to see it actually

warm nimbus
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like unheard of levels of bad

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and the dad fight was still like 45s

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nem dad wr is 30s

patent mesa
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I have 15s nem dad

warm nimbus
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anyways i really need to go to bed

snow skiff
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i still haven't run into ME again on gilgamesh

warm nimbus
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i have an 8am class tmrw

snow skiff
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one day....

patent mesa
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bruh it's 1:41

latent moon
warm nimbus
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oops

latent moon
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Go to sleep

warm nimbus
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anyways gnnnn

patent mesa
snow skiff
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i'm looking at some retrash runs right now

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what is this zagspear 50 pact

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em4 td2

latent moon
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Did homie do a heat randomizer

patent mesa
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oh hey I added one to my bot today

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let's get a random 50 going

snow skiff
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LC1 lmaooooo

tepid light
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got 5-sacked but i don't even care, i just farmed each tunnel

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390 hp, about to fight dad

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dad dead on the pavement

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good god this run was insane

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lvl 5 heroic demeter strike, lvl 8 heroic zeus special with duo boon and lvl 7 heroic static discharge

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rare crop hits different

lean timber
cursive ingot
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Man 10 heat starts to get rough

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Or I just suck at nemesis and should go back to Poseidon

tepid light
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no, 10 heat is definitely rough

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esp. if you're doing extreme measures 4 like i am

short glen
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....why are you doing em4 at 10 heat

swift inlet
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em4 gigachad

tepid light
short glen
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I mean fair enough. It'd just be way easier with just about anything else.

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Like, to my understanding speedrunners avoid it till 40+ heat.

tepid light
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if i wanted things 'easier,' i'd just turn off the pact entirely
i was getting too accustomed to the standard hades fight to the extent that i was consistently beating him without losing a dd, so i wanted more of a challenge

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now my victories aren't nearly as certain, and it adds more fun to the game for me

short glen
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Very fair

brisk trail
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i always turn on EM4 because of the badass music

short glen
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I just figured I'd offer the advice

tepid light
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yeah i getcha

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it also just felt like the most logical progression

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big additions to the boss fights and all

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i should also mention, assuming this isn't the norm, that i've been clearing every single heat level on every single weapon

brisk trail
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im pretty sure the final endpoint is to max out heat with all the weapons

tepid light
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rather than just 'speedrunning' through the heat levels with one weapon

patent mesa
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I personally recommend against that

swift inlet
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There's a lot of fun weapons

patent mesa
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running a single weapon multiple times in a row helps you learn it better and adapt your strategy across varying degrees of highroll

tepid light
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even if you switch to a new one on the next run

patent mesa
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eh

tepid light
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plus, in my opinion, just sticking to a single weapon/aspect for a long while sort of gets boring
i adore the variety of options you have with the weapons, and i want to use each of them frequently

patent mesa
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I don't mean 20streak a weapon

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like 5 runs in a row would be reasonable imo

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unless you're ludicrously lucky you won't get mega highroll 5 times in a row so if your build strategy relies on that you'll crash and burn which is valuable knowledge

tepid light
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eh, i mean theoretically, you would be completely familiar with every weapon and aspect by the time you get to the 'endgame'

so it's really just a matter of how you choose to go about it

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whether that means consistently using the same weapon for several runs in a row, or frequently switching out

autumn mist
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Okay so I used to get Athena’s boons all the time at the beginning of the game, but after about what feels like idk, 10 runs? They became less frequent, and now I never see them, not a single time, I feel like I haven’t seen an Athena boon in the past like 20 runs, is this for a reason or do I have insanely bad luck?

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It’s kind of upsetting cuz she has some of my favorite boons

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I feel like I only ever get Artemis, Poseidon, Zeus, Demeter, and then rarely all of the others

short glen
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You're likely just getting unlucky. Unless you've been hitting give up

autumn mist
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I don’t do that

short glen
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Good

autumn mist
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What does that do?

short glen
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Hitting give up gives you the same seed as you entered that run with, so various things will stay the same

autumn mist
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I see

short glen
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It also resets you to before you started the run.

tepid light
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And undoes anything you did/received during the run

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quests, interactions, achievements, etc

autumn mist
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Guess I’m just extremely unlucky

short glen
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Most likely

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You can also use her keepsake to force her to show up if you have it

autumn mist
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I mean I don’t need her to show up it’s just concerning

tepid light
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receives one athena boon at the start, doesn't get any more across the run

autumn mist
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^

tepid light
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honestly as long as that boon gives you divine dash, it's worth

autumn mist
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Exactly

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That’s why I want her back

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That dash is too good

short glen
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If you DO force her to spawn and keep not getting her for the rest of the run there might actually be a problem. Not extremely likely, but more likely to be an issue than if she doesn't show at all

autumn mist
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Yeah, I’ll try that eventually

formal sinew
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Doing EM4 at Heat 10

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Also trying to get rip current to complete poseidon list

austere loom
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artemis or aphro for arthur?

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or whatever build is good for the blade in general?

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ah man

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Erebus rooms give me anxiety

formal sinew
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I like erebus rooms

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But damn

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EM4

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I was shredded by Hades

austere loom
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wait

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Erebus rooms have "no negative" right

formal sinew
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Uh no

austere loom
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unlike Chaos which at least takes HP

formal sinew
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Nope

void vigil
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i went with artemis for a long time and it worked for me but it seems that because its slow, aphrodite is more recommended

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for arthur i mean

austere loom
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it just doesn't give you anything if you fail

formal sinew
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You just need to meet the heat reqs

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yes

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i mean a negative would be

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loss of health

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thats it

austere loom
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the thing is

formal sinew
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Since you get damaged and gain nothing

austere loom
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I'm confident enough to do well

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but not perfect

formal sinew
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Practice with Pierced Butterfly

austere loom
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so most likely I'll just get tagged for 1 HP and fail

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ooh that's a good one

formal sinew
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I did it so much I can clear tartarus

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Without damage

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And Asphodel upto EM4 Hydra

austere loom
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the thing I don't like with Pierced Butterfly and Hermes' Plume is the buff not remaining if you remove the keepsake

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I mean it makes sense

formal sinew
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Same tbh

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I used to believe that it stayed

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Plus its useless to equip it late game to keep the damage at the end coz you cant flawless those areas

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just one poison shot and you lose a fair bit

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But fr, EM4 hades is hellish

austere loom
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man, Arthur is fun. Got way better once I got an Epic Swift Strike from Hermes

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man, I gotta try to win with Guan Yu

high island
austere loom
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quick question

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does Arthur's area mark after the special keep applying Boon based debuffs like Chill and hangover?

mint coral
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Nah

high island
austere loom
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I see

spice hare
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guys, who helps zag unlock gun aspect again?

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its the only one left for me to unlock

signal aspen
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zeus

spice hare
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aa thanks

pulsar hemlock
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Is it possible to get duo from a chamber where you have to chose which one to get a boon from?

strong ridge
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no but u can get legendaries

pulsar hemlock
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Okay

strong ridge
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brpl rd hyper sprint owo

deft canyon
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Tisophonie just said Zagreus

tepid light
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Speech therapy OP

deft canyon
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I was like "Yeeeah she said it"

tepid light
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What's even better are Meg and Alecto's reactions to it

pulsar hemlock
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FFS, I keep having to go Demeter runs because she refuses to give me her friggin' legendary .-.

sonic shell
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i'm planning on buying hades, do you guys recommend it?

signal aspen
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no yeah

sonic shell
strong ridge
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video game discord
i wonder if these people like the game

sonic shell
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which i am

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but still lmao

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i'm more asking for their general opinions on it

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if that makes sense

tepid light
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kinda hard to answer that if you don't give any preferences of your own

sonic shell
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yeah you got a point

pulsar hemlock
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FFS, I hate this prophecy...

mental vale
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tfw 2 tier 2s for prereqs

pulsar hemlock
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Hm?

mental vale
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killing freeze requires two tier 2s iirc

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or actually i guess ravenous will is tier 1

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but still

pulsar hemlock
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I know. But she just refuses to give me her legendary, I just keep going for Detemer boons, FFS

latent moon
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You have legacy on?

pulsar hemlock
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Yes, and maxed

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I even have 3 fated persuasion

latent moon
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Big rip then

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The fact that it needs two t2 boons suck

lean timber
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but it's so good for bosses

pulsar hemlock
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I don't care how good it is, I want the prophecy done

mint coral
pulsar hemlock
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I'm never getting Demeter legendary, but I can get Poseidon legendary in the first area, without his keepsake .-.

lean timber
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what a generous guy

latent moon
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Story moment

formal sinew
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Well hey zag man

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Imma give you my boons for free

pulsar hemlock
formal sinew
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Also is it just me or Black out is not a great legendary

pulsar hemlock
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I literally got Poseidon 3 times and the third was his legendary fishing

formal sinew
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I got his Huge Catch...in the Styx Temple

dreamy patrol
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Will it ever be multiplayer

formal sinew
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I mean it seems like a solo game

tepid light
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i don't think it'll ever be multiplayer

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it's designed as a solo game, and I don't think supergiant is very interested in adding multiplayer stuff

pulsar hemlock
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FFS. finally got Winter Harvest

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Pretty sure it'd have been mentioned a long time ago if it was supposed to be a multiplayer game

lean timber
pulsar hemlock
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And would probably make the bosses too easy, lol

lean timber
tepid light
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i'll take black out if i get it but yeah, it's just rather hard to use

formal sinew
tepid light
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beat em4 hades with it and we'll talk

lean timber
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em3 hades is literally normal hades. do you mean em4?

formal sinew
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No EM3

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Sadly

lean timber
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lol that's just normal dad fight

mint coral
formal sinew
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I have lost to EM4 4 times today

mint coral
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+60% global kinda good

lean timber
formal sinew
lean timber
tepid light
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actually, question

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is artemis legendary considered a good boon

formal sinew
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I'm only on max 10 heat rn so if I'm not well versed, forgive me

tepid light
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feels very polarizing

mint coral
lean timber
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+2 bloodstones? yeah it's great

formal sinew
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Ohhhh

mint coral
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Dio legendary

tepid light
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if you have like hera or beo, it's awesome

mint coral
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Also yeah fully loaded is great

tepid light
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but if you're not doing anything with casts, it just feels like dead weight

formal sinew
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I just assumed it was only in fog

mint coral
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But is a myth on cast builds

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It never appears

lean timber
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yeah cast builds never receive it

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the curse of hera/beo

mint coral
formal sinew
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Oop

tepid light
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i have gotten mirage shot on beo/hera a couple times

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that was fun

mint coral
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If it says do more dmg/enemies take more dmg it affevts everything

tepid light
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wait i'm confused

mint coral
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Most dmg buffs specify 1 or 2 dmg sources

tepid light
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black out only gives that bonus damage when the enemy is hangover'd and standing in festive fog

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right?

mint coral
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Yeah

tepid light
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ok

tepid light
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i thought you were somehow saying that it was just a universal +60% dmg bonus

mint coral
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It is if the conditions are met

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It affects any dmg that comes from zag

tepid light
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that's
not what i meant

mint coral
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Attack/doom/calls/dash/etc

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Oh you thought it applied at all time?

tepid light
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no, that's what i thought you were saying with your initial statement

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which is why i was confused

mint coral
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Ah

tepid light
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if black out was just a straight up "every enemy takes 60% more damage all the time," that'd be pretty hilarious though

formal sinew
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Hey zag man, my legendary is as confusing as my hangovers

mint coral
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I mean if you want a confusing one look at bad news

formal sinew
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IDK WHOS THAT IS

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Ares?

mint coral
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Hermes legendary

formal sinew
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It's on my req list

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Smh

mint coral
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While using stygian soul in the mirror

formal sinew
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Wow

mint coral
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It makes your cast do 50% more dmg if the enemy doesnt have a cast lodged

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but

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Is actually a 50% global dmg buff

tepid light
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tbh when i first saw black out, i wasn't sure if it was very good since having an enemy be both hangover'd and standing in festive fog seemed a bit of a tall order

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but +60% damage taken is a lot

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so even if they're only in the fog for a few moments

formal sinew
tepid light
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the damage output is v nice

formal sinew
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I mean it's good

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If you have a non sticking cast

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Like demeters blizzard shot or laser

tepid light
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or trippy shot

mint coral
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Yeah ig that was the idea first

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Or simillar to fiery presence (undamaged enemies takes more attack/special dmg)

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But the fact is global dmg is hilarious

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Trade boiling blood for 50% global

tepid light
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considering how often i forget my cast exists, that seems pretty good

mint coral
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Also on topic of the "enemy takes more dmg" buffs (sweet surrender, targetting system and maim) it also includes dmg sources that are not from zag

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So it buffs trap dmg/companions bouldy

tepid light
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i assume from charmed enemies as well

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rare as that case might be

mint coral
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Probably yeah

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It also can proably buff the dmg if that dumb peer pressure boon thing is used

tepid light
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that's the hangover spread one, right

mint coral
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Yeah

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It has a weird thing where if the hangover stacks are only from it, it applies a x8 dmg multiplier

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And a x2 to bosses

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(and no, it doesnt make it good)

tepid light
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peer pressure's meh, but i'll still take it over bad influence tbh

mint coral
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Dont take peer pressure

latent moon
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Hangover override moment

mint coral
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Is basically nerfing your dmg, due to peer pressure stacks replacing yours

tepid light
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come to think of it, i feel like a lot of dio boons are annoyingly situational

mint coral
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Just treat them as boons to sell for underworld customs

tepid light
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at the same time, though, most of his duo boons are hilariously effective in my experience

latent moon
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The core hangover effect boons are only good when pommed and that's all the Dio boons that are good

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His duos are pretty good tho I think

mint coral
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Dio call is legit pog

tepid light
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curse of nausea, low tolerance, splitting headache, exclusive access

latent moon
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Oh yeah call is cool

mint coral
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Assuming i dont have zeus-sigil of the dad

tepid light
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all pretty nice

formal sinew
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I use demeters/sigil

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Instant ending on skulls, vases, etc

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Plus 10 chill hades

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He literally takes a chill pill

tepid light
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i've grown to like demeter a lot

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the fact that she both increases your damage and gives chill, which is a very useful curse

mint coral
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Dem is nice for her t2s

latent moon
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I love her icy flare delay

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Completely useless but funny

tepid light
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demeter strike with fists is becoming a favorite of mine

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i also like killing freeze for use against bosses

lean timber
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t2 dem my beloved

latent moon
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I like snow burst when I actually hit it

mint coral
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Also winter harvesg is pog

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Even if just for the finishing lines

tepid light
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her duo boons are a bit meh, but cold fusion is hilarious

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as per my experience with it yesterday

latent moon
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Stubborn roots is good if you like 40 minute runs

tepid light
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i'm not a huge fan of stubborn roots

latent moon
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I'm a fan of all duos in the sense that I can sell them for stonks

tepid light
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if i'm down to my last dd, things are bad enough beyond the ability of a bit of hp regen to fix

formal sinew
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Me using chill for Luci

latent moon
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On the atk?

tepid light
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now, if it was just general hp regen, that would be a lot different

latent moon
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Stubborn roots is probably better on stubborn defiance tho

formal sinew
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Probably

latent moon
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Except you don't take SD unless you're running high heat and then stubborn roots doesn't have any purpose with LC4 lmao

warm nimbus
latent moon
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Oh really

warm nimbus
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yeah

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same for like gy/draining cutter/cursed slash

latent moon
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TD probably doesn't make it too viable tho huh

snow skiff
warm nimbus
tepid light
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endure and rise above the pain

latent moon
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You do it then lmao

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Do 53 heat em4

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Em4 is just so unnecessarily difficult for 40 or 50 heat if you haven't learned it yet

tepid light
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'if you haven't learned it yet' are the key words there

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there's a reason why i'm learning it now

mint coral
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Are you training at em4 hl5/fo2/lc4 with sd tho dusa

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Kinda different experience

tepid light
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damn you right, brb activating every single modifier in the pact

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so i can become a true gamer

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but yeah tbh i'm really not interested in speedrunning

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if anything, it'd probably just make me worse at the game by making me feel like i have to rush through things

warm nimbus
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nice lmao

tepid light
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what weapon/aspect you using

warm nimbus
#

its been too long since ive got something good form chaos

warm nimbus
tepid light
#

oh pog

mint coral
warm nimbus
#

yeah bad tart leave from that being the only free room + unarmored witches lol

#

i am not keeping 2:20 bouldy

#

also no arty and 1 reroll

mint coral
#

Rip

#

Just get the boons™ and the rooms™

warm nimbus
#

they say to only roll hermes once but its just so tempting

sonic shell
#

hades just finished downloading, nice squirtyay

lean timber
#

i save all 6 rerolls for the first hermes boon i get, then throw my switch across the room if all three rolls are garbage

#

please help, i'm running out of money for new switches

formal sinew
strong ridge
#

plese help me budget my family starv

sonic shell
formal sinew
#

And that's hollow knight as your banner

sonic shell
#

yuh

formal sinew
#

And you just started hades

sonic shell
#

yuh

formal sinew
#

You're my new favourite person

sonic shell
tepid light
#

I thought I was your favorite person, wtf

formal sinew
#

Since when?

#

You can have a cookie

#

🍪

lean timber
sonic shell
#

jesus christ the cost of that upgrade went from 30 to 500 real quick

mint coral
#

DDs are worth it tho

sonic shell
#

ah got it

#

ty noob

spare tiger
#

it's a shame Gamepass is losing Hades next week

tepid light
#

WHY IS GUAN YU SO HARD TO USE AAAA

#

LOST TO DAD AGAIN

warm nimbus
#

it just leads to you getting hit a lot

tepid light
#

i had massive spin and winged serpent, so it was a lot better

warm nimbus
#

still dont use it

tepid light
#

i also had artemis attack

warm nimbus
#

only in between waves in normal encounters

warm nimbus
tepid light
#

gah, i just want to like guan yu so much

#

but it's so cumbersome

warm nimbus
#

the optimal attack sequence goes special-> dash strike x2

#

good hammers are charged skewer > quick spin > massive spin = breaching skewer

#

if you get charged skewer breaching becomes the best second hammer

tepid light
#

on a different note, i think i just got to the secret ending

#

this gonna be good

warm nimbus
#

nice

signal aspen
#

what secret ending thanthink

tepid light
#

Yep, got it

formal sinew
#

I'm so confused rn

tepid light
#

That was nice

formal sinew
#

What ending is that

tepid light
formal sinew
#

Tf

mint coral
#

you mean the epilogue? dusa

signal aspen
#

bruh there is no secret ending to hades

tepid light
#

that's what i'm referring to

signal aspen
#

why call it the secret ending bouldy

tepid light
#

just in case some people think the credits roll is the 'real' ending

#

also because that's what @manic bobcat always called it, so i got used to it

mint coral
#

no reason to call it secret tho

tepid light
#

blame fox

pulsar hemlock
#

Wooh, finished the prophecy with the legendaries. I think I need like, 5-7 for the duo one

manic bobcat
#

It's post credit

#

You dumb dumb, that's all

tepid light
#

@manic bobcat you can't talk to me like that, at this point i'm better than you at this game

sonic shell
#

question, what does descending do?

tepid light
#

ah

#

chaos portals

sonic shell
#

they sure seem like it

signal aspen
tepid light
#

basically they cost some health to go into, and you get sent to chaos, where you can pick a boon that gives you a drawback for a few encounters, then upgrades one of your abilities for the rest of the run

sonic shell
#

i think i'm going against meg in this next room

#

i don't know if i can handle a debuff rn

signal aspen
#

buffs are usually like +x% attack damage

sonic shell
#

ima do it next time

signal aspen
#

curses are like -x% movement speed

#

or take damage every time you attack

sonic shell
#

not planning on fighting meg with low hp and a debuff

tepid light
#

"every time you attack, lose 4hp; reward +1 cast"

sonic shell
#

oh that's not meg

#

that's a big crystal that i hate

signal aspen
#

you can open your boon menu to check which chamber you are on

#

you fight meg in chamber 14

sonic shell
#

boom menu?

manic bobcat
#

Select on controller

signal aspen
#

b on keyboard

sonic shell
#

ty

#

oh my next chamber is meg

#

oh no

mint coral
#

Have fun

sonic shell
#

26 hp

#

welp

signal aspen
#

25 more than you need

sonic shell
#

R.I.P this run

#

lol 69 coins

mint coral
#

Welcome to the house of Hades!

sonic shell
#

i like the interactions between characters each time you reach them again

#

if that makes sense

#

I BEAT MEG

#

nice

signal aspen
#

pog

snow skiff
latent moon
sonic shell
#

oh that's cool

#

ty

#

thought i was just getting lucky tbh

latent moon
#

Every biome is gonna be like that just different chamber numbers

sonic shell
#

yeah that makes sense

warm nimbus
latent moon
#

Oh right

warm nimbus
#

if its blue laurels then its a difficult encounter, which just means it has armored enemies

latent moon
#

Oh I've been meaning to ask

#

Are the amored elite rooms faster than normal rooms?

warm nimbus
#

yes

latent moon
#

Very cool I need to take those more

signal aspen
#

not if you have lvl 1 flood flare without charged shot and get armored thugs

warm nimbus
#

yeah that sucks lol

latent moon
#

Meg it for the funny

warm nimbus
latent moon
#

Oh lmao

warm nimbus
#

itd save more time than the bball meg if you get a good enough build

latent moon
#

Using 2 in tart sounds terrible ngl

lean timber
#

"megaera!"
"wtf zagreus there's like three guys in here"

sonic shell
#

wait there are 2 olympus icons on one door, what does that mean

signal aspen
#

find out

lean timber
#

trial time

sonic shell
#

sounds fun

lean timber
#

hehe

signal aspen
#

2 free boons 🙂

lean timber
#

unironically

latent moon
#

I mean

#

Screw around and find out lmao

sonic shell
#

oh zeus is pissed lmao

lean timber
#

skill issue

latent moon
#

Lmfao

lean timber
#

who did you take first

latent moon
#

Bet it's Athena

sonic shell
#

oh i'm dead

lean timber
#

please 7ACOSP_lmao

#

LOL!

sonic shell
lean timber
#

eh not bad

#

would have taken zeus first tbh

signal aspen
#

good choice

sonic shell
#

i got zeus in the last room, so i took artemis

lean timber
#

zoos

#

athena trial in elysium tbh not goated

#

not poggers

raw herald
#

What exactly triggers being able to use summons against hades again

signal aspen
#

getting 2 summons one of which is from somebody who works for hades

sonic shell
#

skelly best man

#

or skeleton

signal aspen
#

skeleman

sonic shell
#

skeleman

#

so is zeus just gonna be mad at me for a while

signal aspen
#

nah

lean timber
#

lol if you fail to complete the trial he never shows up again 7ACOSP_lmao

#

sorry buddy he hates you forever now

sonic shell
#

damn

signal aspen
#

now in every room he shoots lightning bolts at you

sonic shell
#

ofcourse, makes sense

#

my 3rd boon is again aphrodite

#

i now have 3 aphrodite boons, and no others

lean timber
#

that's either garbage or fantastic depending on your build

sonic shell
#

tbh i'm unsure

#

all i know is i'm doing really well

lean timber
#

what weapon are u running

sonic shell
#

spear

lean timber
#

could be better

sonic shell
#

could be

#

i don't have image perms so i can't really send what i have

latent moon
#

Send the image in a different server or something and copy the link

sonic shell
#

good idea

#

here

#

meg time

tepid light
#

got rush delivery for once

#

let's see how this goes

manic bobcat
#

It goes

sonic shell
#

yoo i just killed the bone snake thingy first try

#

the hydra

mint coral
#

gaming

sonic shell
#

yee

mint coral
#

be careful of little butterflys now

sonic shell
#

uh oh

sonic shell
latent moon
#

Lmfao

sonic shell
#

andd i died

#

not to butterflys tho

latent moon
#

It do be like that sometimes

sonic shell
#

but hey

#

i first tried the hydra

#

so that's an ego boost

lean timber
#

first try hydra is great

sonic shell
#

ye

latent moon
#

Already reached Ely and how many attempts?

#

You just got this game too lmao

sonic shell
#

question

#

how many chambers does elysuim have

#

or however i spell it

signal aspen
#

boss fight is at chamber 36

sonic shell
signal aspen
#

yeah

#

🗿

sonic shell
#

oh no

#

wow

#

2v1

#

holy it's 5 am

#

yikes

#

i died

latent moon
#

Lmfao go to sleep

sonic shell
#

i will

#

should i do one more run

latent moon
#

No

#

Go to sleep

signal aspen
#

yes

sonic shell
#

too late

formal sinew
#

Oh boy

sonic shell
#

@scenic cipher i think you were right

sonic shell
#

i am never going in those rooms again

latent moon
#

Do it

#

Or you're a coward

lean timber
#

dio arty it's perfect do it NOW

sonic shell
#
  • artemis was literally the next option right beside it
latent moon
#

Could've gotten 2 boons smh

#

But fair lmao I never take trials either it's not worth the effort

tepid light
#

wdym

lean timber
#

kind of hard to just get the boons if you don't go for the boons

#

L

#

imo

brisk trail
#

either get shot with arrows for a couple seconds or become blackout drunk or really hungover

#

but honestly all good

#

I haven’t found a double boon room for a bit

latent moon
# tepid light wdym

As of now, I'm either gonna do 32 heat all aspects or speed run on beo so I'm never gonna take a trial lol

brisk trail
#

I need to do 32 heat for skelly

sonic shell
latent moon
#

Yeah

tepid light
#

yeah

brisk trail
#

yeah :))

sonic shell
#

oh

tepid light
#

that's why trials are good

sonic shell
#

didn't know that

latent moon
#

They're good for the effort but I personally can't be bothered lol

sonic shell
#

well i guess the first and only time i did a trial i got smited by zeus

#

btw just beat the hydra

#

so nice

latent moon
#

Very nice

brisk trail
#

hydra my beloved

latent moon
#

What weapon and build btw

sonic shell
#

"i'll go to sleep after this run"

#

runs take like 20 minutes lol

sonic shell
latent moon
#

Nice

sonic shell
#

as for my boons and stuff

#

also don't mind that there is 2 of that

#

i thought it just regens it

signal aspen
#

Poseidon dash Zeus call this run is a win

sonic shell
#

fr

latent moon
#

I don't even know what that is lmao

sonic shell
#

neither do i

#

he makes it sound good

latent moon
#

You can hover over it to see the info

sonic shell
#

so i just go along with it

sonic shell
latent moon
#

Based

#

Also that's a pretty good build considering you're just starting out lmao

#

But also max hourglass already lmfao

#

Also can't tell what hammer that is because I never use spear

sonic shell
#

i love this one

sonic shell
#

unsure what it does, but i like it

warm nimbus
#

its aotw so this weeks the week to get that sub7

latent moon
#

Oh god

warm nimbus
#

what

latent moon
#

Sub 7 is pain

warm nimbus
#

nah its pretty easy

latent moon
#

I barely got a sub 8 last time lmao

warm nimbus
#

just ask @patent mesa on how easy it really is

sonic shell
#

tbh i love charon

latent moon
#

Lemme just get a tart mirage and maybe it'll be good

#

But my aiming is terrible residentzag

warm nimbus
#

also i have to read the first act of the tempest tonight lol

#

i hate shakespeare so much

latent moon
#

Use tempest strike nem instead

brisk trail
#

what’s one of the best builds?

latent moon
#

It's close enough

warm nimbus
latent moon
warm nimbus
brisk trail
#

any

warm nimbus
#

oh

#

flood flare beo

lean timber
#

crush shot hera

latent moon
#

Hera is just worse beo

warm nimbus
#

best aspects overall are beo eris and hestia

latent moon
#

Worse cshot beo

lean timber
#

didn't ask

#

ratio

warm nimbus
#

eris is also a good choice for good build

#

just lightning strike, tidal dash, jolted

#

special hammers

latent moon
#

Hazard

lean timber
#

hazard eris

sonic shell
#

no idea who that last one is lol

warm nimbus
lean timber
#

the best one

warm nimbus
latent moon
warm nimbus
#

undiscovered is my favorite god tbh

lean timber
#

no you won't

signal aspen
#

Sub7 is easy ngl

warm nimbus
lean timber
#

undiscovered t2 boons 😍

warm nimbus
#

i should go for 6:58 32

latent moon
#

I need better rng for a sub 7 lmao

signal aspen
warm nimbus
sonic shell
#

andd i'm dead

signal aspen
#

Pro tip: dont die

sonic shell
#

i hate light shielders

#

i goddamn hate them

#

exalted greatshielders*

signal aspen
lean timber
#

greatshields aren't too bad

#

wait until bowmen

warm nimbus
sonic shell
#

bowmen are fine

warm nimbus
#

i want an onion

signal aspen
#

Great shields are definitely bad

warm nimbus
#

what time is onion

sonic shell
#

"blocked"

lean timber
#

skill issue ig

lean timber
warm nimbus
lean timber
#

i f'd the stupid joke up kill me now

#

i don"/ even feel like fix9ng it

signal aspen
#

Oh it is top 10

warm nimbus
#

epic

#

i bet i could try and fail at that

signal aspen
#

6:48 time to beat

warm nimbus
#

oh not bad

#

i have like 5 anyheat runs below that i think

signal aspen
#

Have you tried 32 heat speedrunning bouldy

warm nimbus
signal aspen
#

Just go fast

patent mesa
#

just a rather highroll tart + aspho gets you there

warm nimbus
signal aspen
#

Half the runs are magnil bouldy

warm nimbus
#

just get like a sub 3:30 aspho leave and easy

warm nimbus
sonic shell
#

tbh

warm nimbus
#

looks like an easy top 10 time

sonic shell
#

i may do some quick runs to get keys and than die to meg on purpose to go back

latent moon
patent mesa
#

it's not common tbh

#

but if you can sub 8 comfortably you can sub 7 with highroll easily

latent moon
#

My sub 8 was by 4 seconds lmao

#

It's gonna be a lot of runs before I can get a sub 7

warm nimbus
sonic shell
#

i can finally unlock those gloves or whatever

#

can't wait to fist enemies

signal aspen
#

Ayo 😳

sonic shell
#

do not take it like that

latent moon
signal aspen
latent moon
#

Lmfao I wish

lean timber
sonic shell
#

i've been playing for 7 hours now

#

it's 6 am and i'm tired

#

goodnight

signal aspen
#

Gn

#

Or basically good morning

patent mesa
lean timber
#

who's vince 😄

latent moon
#

Vince nuts

lean timber
#

gottem!!

#

oh wait

latent moon
#

Gottem

warm nimbus
#

im procrastinating english hw bc i dont want to read shakespeare

spice hare
#

damn, lost beowolf at hades second phrase 17 health

#

this is gonna haunt me

#

well tbf i was running one revive

patent mesa
warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

oh that's a good one

#

it's like the most obscure one of his plays that's still commonly referenced

latent moon
#

I just saw the most cursed 40 heat pact on Reddit lmao

#

Gj on them for completing 40 heat but Jesus Christ lmfao

warm nimbus
#

well hopefully i find it fun

warm nimbus
#

wow

lean timber
#

imagine being in classes

#

college dropout gang

lean timber
latent moon
#

This is why we run td3 lmao

snow skiff
#

Lc1

latent moon
#

FO1 as well

#

Frost strike eternal luci too

patent mesa
warm nimbus
#

wrong channel lol

warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

I wanna do that pact now

warm nimbus
#

oh god

patent mesa
#

sounds hilarious

latent moon
#

Do it

warm nimbus
#

lol lc1 sd

latent moon
#

And post it on reddit

latent moon
#

Also dark regen

warm nimbus
latent moon
#

Because the dude in the screenshot did it

warm nimbus
#

oh that you mean

#

yeah thats totally wack

#

anyways im sleeping early now in hopes that ill be motivated to read the tempest tmrw morning and hopefully can get it done before english

#

gn

latent moon
#

Lmao gn

#

But maybe one more run

lean timber
#

temp these n

woven widget
#

wt

#

i just lost my savefile for hades

void vigil
acoustic bolt
acoustic bolt
#

how does abyssal defiance work with stubborn defiance?

#

do you use up the room one first and then the second one or vice versa?

#

i checked the speedrun forums and it says you deplete SD first. if you get athena boons do they just stack for free instead of replacing a used one?

latent moon
acoustic bolt
latent moon
#

With Athena, if you use your SD before you pick up her DD refills, you get a DD as well as SD. And yes, you use SD before the Dd

#

SD always gets used first

tepid light
#

every time i get stunned by one of the urns during the hades fight, i lose a year off my lifespan

#

the salt consumes me

latent moon
#

Pot moment

#

Dw it gets worse if you use high security lmao

#

Pots do like 150 damage

tepid light
#

oh god, they count as traps

#

?

latent moon
#

Yep

tepid light
#

Pain

#

only pain

formal sinew
#

Pain pain pain

#

I resent the pots of greed

spice hare
#

finally unlocked all hidden aspect

#

now i can spam all my runs on shield with no worries

austere loom
#

I kinda want an excuse to use Zeus

#

can't think of much other than gun

forest gust
#

Bow is generally good with Zeus I think

high island
high island
#

Heartbreak Strike > Zeus' Aid > Smoldering Air is good on almost anything.

austere loom
#

finally unlocked all the hidden aspects, with Lucifer being last

#

though I can't think of a reason to use Luci

hardy spear
#

big damage

austere loom
#

big damage how?

hardy spear
#

the special

austere loom
#

speaking of, Eris did unexpectedly well

#

dunno what changed

mint coral
austere loom
#

but it went from slow to actually good DPS

#

tried it before, felt disappointing. Maybe boon choices made certain things better

mint coral
#

Attack matters a lot on it

#

% based attacks are bad

austere loom
#

oh

#

then Zeus's flat damage is good then?

mint coral
#

Yes

#

It basically doubles your dmg from attack

austere loom
#

which reminds me

#

I hate Greatshields and I hate Theseus

mint coral
#

And pair with static discharge for dmg on bosses (and add splitting bolt for way more room clear)

mint coral
austere loom
#

I tried being a bit cheeky with Pierced Butterfly on Elysium because I don't need much else

#

and I realized Greatshields and Butterballs exist

#

got 2 floors out of it but nothing else

mint coral
#

On theseus is more noticed because he retreats everytime after the spear throw

austere loom
#

Theseus does this thing after half health

#

where he roams around the walls, making him much more annoying

#

along with the god call which makes positioning and trying to hit him a game of patience

mint coral
#

Use everything you have during his god call

#

He cant block and chances are he either dies or comes extremely damaged

austere loom
#

right, makes sense

mint coral
#

You know about the dash iframes right?

austere loom
#

yeah

#

I think I just get tilted by the sounds of the shields getting hit

#

ting ting ting

mint coral
#

Nice

#

Also if you want a fun hammer combo for rail, cluster + rocket bomb

#

Is bugged and the -30% from cluster doesnt apply if you have rocket

austere loom
#

how hard is it to get hit by rocket bomb?

#

for Eris purposes

mint coral
#

Hug enemy>shoot

#

Or aim to a wall

#

Eris is a melee aspect anyways bouldy

#

But AoE from the special is fairly big so is not hard

austere loom
#

Got the Skelly joke quest

#

too bad it doesn't compensate you for your investment

high island
austere loom
#

yeah

#

maybe after next run

#

just bought Luci for collection's sake

#

just asking for your opinions

#

how good is Supporting Fire?

mint coral
#

Fun on rail/not hidden fists

acoustic bolt
#

so my only mods are the speedrun modpack and the dps mod and i saved a run last night in styx

mint coral
#

And requisite for fully loaded which is nice in case i wanna high roll for it