whenever i have malphons hidden aspect i wanna die because it sucks
#h1-discussion
signal aspen
still egret
Iunno, I had fun fighting my enemies like i was on a big bridge\
signal aspen
it might be fun buts not that good 
still egret
That's how I'm kinda feeling with Lucifer's gun right now tbh. A laser gun is cool, but it's not as... useful as regular bullets
rustic vale
It’s like 27.75% chance to crit at least once
high island
Greater rate of fire doesn't increase crit chance, it reduces variance.
warm nimbus
the crit chance for each arrow isnt increased but the chance for at least one of them to crit is
and yes, to 27.75%
lone kernel
That's how I'm kinda feeling with Lucifer's gun right now tbh. A laser gun is co...
Build around the special. Basically pray you get triple bomb
finite geyser
I killed hades with lucifer and then while I was talking to the mother the power turns off and now I have to go all the way back but good thing I am already killed learnie and now gonna take a break until powers becomes strong enough so I can kill hades
thin echo
Man I was on pace for like a 12 minute run and my damn game crashed
I’m never getting that boon luck again in my life
thin echo
Yeah, for me it only saves if I quit out myself, not if it crashed
finite geyser
Yep same
thin echo
I guess my fastest run is staying at 20 minutes for the foreseeable future now.
finite geyser
Cool cool
Well now ima relax for a bit it's 4:23 am in the morning
Which part of the story are you on?
thin echo
I finished the main story I’m just tying up loose ends like doing Achilles story and stuff
finite geyser
Oh cool
I got to the part where I tell the mother about the photo of her in hades room
So yeah pretty close to the end
latent moon
Well now ima relax for a bit it's 4:23 am in the morning
"a bit" sounds like an understatement when you should be sleeping lmao
finite geyser
I sleep all day and wake up at 12 am
thin echo
Idk when that is cuz I got bored and skipped dialogue after getting the mom back. Is it before the festival?
latent moon
fair enough carry on
thin echo
Idk some time after getting the mom back
latent moon
isn't the festival like
thin echo
Lol at 4 am
latent moon
when you invite all the gods over
which mainly depends on your bonds with the other gods or something
thin echo
Well yeah but I was trying not to say that part to not spoil too much
latent moon
spoilers are welcome here aren't they
latent moon
it's in the channel description lol
lean timber
Greater rate of fire doesn't increase crit chance, it reduces variance.
okay
still egret
I notice when I get a weapon or aspect I don't like, I turn the "easy kill" cheat on a lot sooner just to get it over with or just get the prophecy so I don't have to use it again.
Guan Yu is one of those right now
rustic vale
Easy kill?
still egret
I use a thing called "WeMod". It lets me add cheats and stuff to some games
signal aspen
so a cheat engine
still egret
Pretty much I guess
But like, I've beaten the game already so I don't really care about the whole "cheats bad" mentality
signal aspen
based
still egret
Unless for an online game obviously, which WeMod doesn't have any support for
Single player games only
I usually just use it for the final fantasy pixel remasters for a bit more gil and exp, but still keep it fair
rarely ever use infinite health cheats unless it's some section in a game I don't like and just wanna get a move on, or so I don't have to see a cat flop over dead....looks at Stray
still egret
Cuz when I found out you can die in Stray I was like "Okay... the intro already made me close to crying, so I'm just gonna turn godmode on now"
I just wanted a cat walking simulator with unique platforming
Not stuff that can kill a cat!
signal aspen
agreed
still egret
Yeah! And like I said, the intro made me nearly cry because it felt too real! How do you think I'd react to seeing the cat die?!
warm nimbus
i use this cheat engine called the speedrunning modpack
no you dont
warm nimbus
here let me try
warm nimbus
Pretty much I guess
i use this cheat engine called the speedrunning modpack
signal aspen
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
warm nimbus
yeah and now its true
signal aspen
yeah well i actually use a cheat engine in all of my runs
you hear that speedrun dot com verifiers
lean timber
me splicing in footage of hades for 30 seconds then adding 8 hours of garfield kart gameplay and submitting it to speedrun.com
patent mesa
i use this cheat engine called the speedrunning modpack
I use this cheat engine called cheat engine
it's pretty helpful
fair fulcrum
so are there no checkpoints or anything? everytime I die i have to run through all of hell to get back to where I died?
fair fulcrum
clearly i havent played a roguelike if its like that for every roguelike game
still egret
I finally meet the requirements to unlock the Beowulf shield, and guess who is now no where to be seen?
still egret
You saying you've never met greg?
signal aspen
Greg named an aspect after himself
latent moon
neat easter egg
patent mesa
aspect of gregamesh
still egret
Last time I met Greg, I fought him on a big bridge, then a castle, oh and an interdimensional rift
latent moon
as one does
still egret
Aaaand no chaos this run
still egret
as one does
Also went on adventures with him and the greatest gentlemanly inspector in the entire realm!
still egret
So I FINALLY ran into Chaos….
…..only for him to talk about Hermes instead of the shield
I’m going to bed
latent moon
lmao it do be like that
patent mesa
So I FINALLY ran into Chaos….
…..only for him to talk about Hermes instead of th...
I remember trying to bumrush beo on my second file
lost my mind listening to the dumbest banter of all time
snow skiff
Special Q and summon 1 are the main offenders
latent moon
eh special on q doesn't seem too bad for some aspects that rarely use the special
those that do it seems annoying tho
also summon on 1 isn't really that bad considering that you only have to use it once and you usually do it at the start
snow skiff
Counterpoint: reaching up annoying
patent mesa
I heard that some people do summon on wheel click
latent moon
eh it's manageable
patent mesa
which doesn't sound too bad
latent moon
i mean as long as it's remotely convenient then i dont think it's too bad
also having it on 1 lowers the chance of fatfingering it on accident
snow skiff
Well for example with like doomstone where you generally dash into the center and hit it reaching up is a pain
snow skiff
eh special on q doesn't seem too bad for some aspects that rarely use the specia...
I mean yeah but it sounds kind of silly to rebind your controls based on aspect
latent moon
i never have any trouble with that
patent mesa
I mean yeah but it sounds kind of silly to rebind your controls based on aspect
I do it all the time
reload on right click is nice for hesty
latent moon
i do it for rail yeah
snow skiff
reload on right click is nice for hesty
Wow!!!! is that the hestia secret i need to make it feel less slow
signal aspen
A
signal aspen
I use .oeu
patent mesa
I use scroll wheel for up + down and left + right click for left + right
restive cave
if you take off winged butterfly do you lose all the bonus you gained till then?
chrome wharf
Yes
restive cave
on my 180th escape attempt and didnt know that smh my head
chrome wharf
oh gods that dress is giving me 2014 flashbacks
rustic vale
on my 180th escape attempt and didnt know that smh my head
I’ve got more attempts and didn’t know that, but to be fair I don’t often pick up negligible keepsakes
patent mesa
honestly butterfly and plume would be so interesting if they kept buff
chrome wharf
Or if they were in the companion slot so you had some build control
restive cave
i feel like every run im picking up zeus or dio on start, then swapping to whoever i need to duo with act 2, then i used hourglass in act 3 so that i can buy all buffs from the well when i get to act 4 and swap to lucky tooth if i need it lol
chrome wharf
Same goes for lambert plume, but you keep levels from pom blossom
rustic vale
Or if they were in the companion slot so you had some build control
Nothing could ever make me use something other then antos
Except for those codex entries
chrome wharf
The fables were my favorite part of the codex
chrome wharf
Reminded me of Nier's weapon stories
rustic vale
He’s so strong
He ambushed Nyx y’know
chrome wharf
(if you read the fables and thought "I wish the twists were more screwed up" you should read Nier weapon stories)
rustic vale
is a 26% damage buff worth keeping butterfly in act 4? trying to finish EM$
No but what are you using
chrome wharf
is a 26% damage buff worth keeping butterfly in act 4? trying to finish EM$
If you never played EM4 before, swap to something defensive
restive cave
hestia with heart rend
rustic vale
Take a defensive keepsake
chrome wharf
Yeah tooth or Acorn
restive cave
alright :]
chrome wharf
tell dad I say hi
restive cave
i wish i didnt skip patrocles for a erebus room lol
i still have all my DD though, plus im full hp, but the attack dmg woulda been nice
chrome wharf
Elysium Erebus 
restive cave
gonna roll off my hammers to see what i can find cuz right now im using rocket bomb and piercing shot :p
chrome wharf
Make sure it's the first thing you buy, so if it's bad you can quit and load back
chrome wharf
Should be ok
Just open up the menu and check that the quit button isn't greyed out
When you wanna buy anvil that is
restive cave
lost rocket bomb for delta and ricochet
chrome wharf
meh, rocket better
restive cave
i tried it again after another hallway and swapped piercing for cluster and spread fire :p
restive cave
with hestia do i really wanna be trying to focus on my special?
ive got aphrodite on it
rustic vale
You can special after you shoot your shot, plus you have clockets with aphro special
restive cave
this is really strong at clearing the rooms with the mice
rustic vale
That has to be like 800 burst damage or something unless you’ve ended up with an aphro special with less then +100%
warm nimbus
Special Q and summon 1 are the main offenders
summon on 1 isnt bad
its never given me problems
chrome wharf
i tried it again after another hallway and swapped piercing for cluster and spre...
btw spread doesn't affect the range of the 1st Hestia shot
restive cave
yeah i know thats why i thought it was kinda a bad trade
it affects it negatively though it seems, i have to get closer to connect
but the cluster bomb does hit pretty hard
this run is over though he summoned all mobs from act 3 including the pink butterfly dispenser and its made of stone lol
rustic vale
Have to get closer to connect what?
restive cave
like when i reload then fire, but after looking closer it seems i was wrong lol
rustic vale
The hestia shot has longer range then normal to begin with and spreadfire doesn’t change that
warm nimbus
ugh i need motivation to play hades the video game
warm nimbus
yeah but i dont know about any other aspects i even want to do
patent mesa
hesty is no biggie
warm nimbus
idk im not a big hestia fan
patent mesa
too high skill compared to eris smh
warm nimbus
yep definitely it
patent mesa
I'm 100% of the opinion that zshield is the easiest modded 50
you really should try to learn it
since that's worth three 50s
warm nimbus
zag shield is such a boring aspect though
thats my biggest problem with it
and also im bad at it
lmao
patent mesa
uhh I think so
warm nimbus
alr
patent mesa
only slack would be EM3 CP1 RI1 AP1 I believe
warm nimbus
and also covered in glue
patent mesa
but on the plus side you only need 1 hammer to instaphase first two bosses
so there's that
patent mesa
sounds about right
warm nimbus
arty special, right?
patent mesa
special can probably hit like 4 lernies at once
arty optimal but whatever you can get on it
I ultimately succeeded because dem special applies chill on the pulses to keep everything 10chilled
aphro is obv very strong pick too since weak is always good
even athena works since the pulses are surprisingly effective at deflecting
patent mesa
triple bomb is more than enough to compensate for damage imo
warm nimbus
aphro is obv very strong pick too since weak is always good
also i srill cant believe i didnt know weak was 30%
patent mesa
esp since triple bomb is safer than splash
warm nimbus
i thought it was 10% this whole time
patent mesa
it's probably the boon with the highest ratio of me choosing it vs its viability
I end up with it so often
patent mesa
yeah since athena has so many stinkers
warm nimbus
isnt common 8%?
patent mesa
5 lmao
patent mesa
wait let me make sure
warm nimbus
and thats still 0.5 hl anyway
patent mesa
have I lost my mind
warm nimbus
dr is multiplicative
patent mesa
oh I see
patent mesa
wdym
patent mesa
tbh that seems reasonable to me
that weak takes final damage amount and just multiplies by 70%
warm nimbus
wait a minute
i forgot that enemy damage is multiplicative
thats why sluggers suck
sluggers are literally hl15
patent mesa
so slugger is unconditional x2 damage correct?
patent mesa
one time I was trying gy 50 and thought RI2 would be reasonable
warm nimbus
lol
patent mesa
then HL5 slugger thug hit me c1 for 40d
patent mesa
shoutout to puller bruiser and popper for being free BP perks
I would say linker but that's killed me so many times
warm nimbus
bruiser and popper are really annoying though
patent mesa
oh yeah the way popper drags out TD sucks
patent mesa
idk about bruiser tho, I think it's just funny
warm nimbus
its just like giving an enemy cp6
patent mesa
I like how the moment I see a bruiser enemy my monkey brain says boiling blood
warm nimbus
not that bad
puller used to be really bad apparently
i actually didnt know it was a bp perk until a few days ago
warm nimbus
yeah
i kinda just ignored it bc i couldnt find out what it did
i didnt realize it was from bp
patent mesa
and I can count on one hand the number of times it's negatively affected me tbh
best perk
warm nimbus
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lmao
patent mesa
bruh
warm nimbus
how do i not know anything about this game lmao
patent mesa
this is proof that your 50 heat and sub 7 were the result of the infinite monkeys on infinite typewriters thought experiment
warm nimbus
that sub 7 was achieved after like 10 minutes of resets though
not exactly infinite
and yet after resetting for like 4h i cant seem to beat it
anyway yeah that sub 7 was all skill no luck involved
definitely no epic rd clockets
warm nimbus
maybe ill give it a shot when its aotw
actuallt who am i kidding thats not going ro be for a while
gray apex
That’ll probably be a while then
warm nimbus
i am now awake after a long nights rest
gray apex
🗿
raw nimbus
i am now awake after a long nights rest
Hello
warm nimbus
hello
raw nimbus
How do you get the green role btw?
warm nimbus
go to #bot-commands
raw nimbus
Ty
warm nimbus
np
raw nimbus
How do you score 15 more than thanatos btw?
Closest I got was 13..
There's physically no way to kill the longspears before his instakill
warm nimbus
yeah, itll get easier as you get better
warm nimbus
Any reward for it other than the achievement?
i dont think so
hollow path
How do you score 15 more than thanatos btw?
it's easier when there's a lot of weak mobs
mostly comes from elysium the splitters and the flame wheels
still egret
it's easier when there's a lot of weak mobs
^^^
Yeah it can get stupid easy sometimes
viscid snow
I mean if you have a good build going it is pretty damn easy IMO. I rarely have Than get above 5 kills in Elysium.
hearty bramble
Any reward for it other than the achievement?
if you manage to get every single kill he has some fun voice lines
meager lava
I just beat ||hades|| for the first time, can I now unlock the 4th sword? how do I get it
mint coral
Check #h1-story-discussion pins
deft canyon
Just got into that game
Damn it's amazing
Hades being a Grumpy Office job dad made my day lol
copper adder
I want that Dusa plushie but it's so expensive 😢
split wedge
hades optimization question - should i max the hearts of one person at a time or do them in parallel? aka if i max all of thanatos' hearts first will it get blocked cuz of other story lines not having enough hearts to progress?
copper adder
I'm maxing out Dusa first but that's because I love her so much
copper adder
Aw :<
meager tiger
usually runs spear
copper adder
Dodge many times is all I can say
meager tiger
any builds he could try?
meager tiger
Dodge many times is all I can say
already told him and he just does i in any battle cuz he's a spear player lol
copper adder
I dodge all the time with every weapon
Seems to be working pretty well
I am on like my 20th run and I can get to the end of Elysium every time
I guess just max out single target damage rather than AOE
And get a Call
Meg is pretty basic, it's hard to recommend anything since she's such a simple boss
copper adder
If he puts a Nectar into Athena I think you can get a Keepsake to always get her at the start
But honestly I'd just say keep trying
wind hollow
Anyone know if they are going to make it able to transfer ps4 saves to ps5 in the future? I dont want to play hundreds of hours on my ps4 not to get it on ps5
copper adder
If you can't get past Meg with your build, it's probably the player's fault more than the build
signal aspen
just learn enemy attack patterns
meager tiger
If you can't get past Meg with your build, it's probably the player's fault more...
doesnt have a build yet lol
but i think he's finding his taste ya know
like for example he likes aphro cast
i could let him try a cast build
copper adder
Idk, having a set build you are looking for in a game like this is kinda pointless
The whole point is for your build to change every single run
signal aspen
Idk, having a set build you are looking for in a game like this is kinda pointle...
its not
meager tiger
but in first area defs pointless
signal aspen
i start every run with a build in mind
meager tiger
i start every run with a build in mind
same
signal aspen
its how you get consistent wins
copper adder
🤷♂️
copper adder
I'm not a a gamer so I wouldn't know
meager tiger
have you beaten father yet?
alpine epoch
Put doom (ares) on the spear special and just spam the special from a distance
Dash away from attacks. Let doom do all the dmg. Meg should be easy if you keep far away
signal aspen
well if youre a new player its gonna be hard
meager tiger
I'm not a a gamer so I wouldn't know
it's ok dw
copper adder
I'm more focused on macking on my floating head gf than getting out of hell
meager tiger
Put doom (ares) on the spear special and just spam the special from a distance
...
could u do that with dio on special?
or is doom stronger
signal aspen
doom is probably better since stacking dio with special is gonna be slow
alpine epoch
For spear, doom is way better
signal aspen
divine dash or smth idk
alpine epoch
Athena dash
meager tiger
i usually take dio's call on spear but that just me
signal aspen
athena
alpine epoch
But at that point. It's not something you can just "get"
It sorta just comes to you. Because there isn't a way to garentee Athena as your second god
signal aspen
if i were him i would just focus on learning enemy attack patterns
not trying to max out damage
and then dying
alpine epoch
If your friend is dying early
I'd focus more on survivability than damage.
That way you can spend more time at the boss to learn the attack patters
Because learning the attack patters is what gets you through the boss
alpine epoch
Then the more time they spend with Meg. The better because they will learn megs attack patters and know when to dodge
If you get ares on your special I wonluldnt ever even use my attack personally
Distance shot doom from special and focus on dodging
meager tiger
but that kinda defeats the point of playing spear, no?
then you'd just play bow instead imo
alpine epoch
Spear is most people's worst weapon
copper adder
I like the Fists :>
alpine epoch
Shield guy all the way
copper adder
But I played with Spear before I unlocked it
signal aspen
shield gang
alpine epoch
Lol
signal aspen
fists is very bad and unbased
copper adder
Your mother is very bad and unbased
signal aspen
alpine epoch
Yikes
signal aspen
i think i have a run on speedrun.com for every weapon except for fists
copper adder
I like it because you can keep hitting anything while strafing
So you never need to not be dealing damage
And you almost never get hit
And the special has good range
Asphodel is rough though, you fall in the lava a lot
alpine epoch
Lol
copper adder
Wat
signal aspen
just dont step in the lava
copper adder
Ye
alpine epoch
Easier said than done lol
copper adder
Well when you accidentally dash into it
You take some chip damage before you can dodge back out
Especially those WITCHES
I hate the Witches' Circle
signal aspen
witches circle is my favorite midboss for aspho
alpine epoch
You get used to them
copper adder
That room sucks so hard
meager tiger
im a bow/spear guy
copper adder
Though if you have Athena it can be fun to uno reverse card them to death
meager tiger
my 2 clears are on spear and bow
mint coral
Super barge is the best mid boss
meager tiger
but i run chiron with bow
signal aspen
Super barge is the best mid boss
that is true
alpine epoch
Forgive the ignorant question but is super barge the barge of death with the like... heat turned on for mini bosses? Middle management or whatever?
mint coral
Modded thing
signal aspen
signal aspen
SAME
alpine epoch
Congrats lol
signal aspen
mod in a mouse cursor
signal aspen
the last time i got epic rd clockets i got 4 sacked
warm nimbus
the last time i got epic rd clockets i got 2 sacked
raw herald
The last time I got epic rd clockets i
meager tiger
Congrats lol
first time tho
signal aspen
the last time i got epic rd clockets i got 2 sacked
Because you have a chest engine
Cheat
Omg
alpine epoch
Lol!
warm nimbus
Because you have a chest engine
chest engine 😳
signal aspen
😳
lean timber
hades optimization question - should i max the hearts of one person at a time or...
nope, not at all. feel free to run them all at the same time
trail citrus
quick question: is there a mod out there that "improves" the mirror of the night, by uncapping the upgrades at a greater cost of multiple resources?
ANd is there a modding server? I thought there was a modding channel somewhere here, my bad >.<
mint coral
ANd is there a modding server? I thought there was a modding channel somewhere h...
#self-promotion pins for modding server and pretty sure there is a mod for that
Just gotta scroll in nexus mods for a bit ig
trail citrus
tnx
getting kinda tired of looking for a boon with that upgrade that makes it more likely, and I still end the run without a duo T.T
lean timber
you mean dark foresight? the mirror option?
rustic vale
That one does work though 🤔
But I will say I have gotten like a 5 duo run without it on I think
It’s just improving your rng but in the end it’s still random
lean timber
god's legacy is pretty helpful but i never end up needing it
would rather have epic boons most of the time really
there's only a few that are more important than that
latent moon
it makes it more likely, not guaranteed lol
also you might not have the required boons for the duo so make sure you have those
rustic vale
Only time I’d just whatever it’s called that makes duos and legendaries more often is if I’m running like dionysus or something where I’d want multiple duos/legendaries
So I can get low tolerance and curse of nausea
thin echo
Just somehow finished a run in 9:49
raw herald
nice!
lean timber
tonight i think i will speedrun
as i typed out the question i realized meg should be used mainly to break armor
signal aspen
i use dusa to break armor
warm nimbus
yeah meg is used on tart, aspho, and ely midbosses as well as heroes and hades
if you find that well thing you can meg styx miniboss
raw herald
i use skelly to break armor
lean timber
yeah meg is used on tart, aspho, and ely midbosses as well as heroes and hades
what abt barge of death
raw herald
dont use it on barge
lean timber
good
alpine epoch
How do I unlock the ability to use Meg against hades?
I understand hades had to give me permission
How do I unlock that?
raw herald
if you get barge and keep the run, use it in styx
signal aspen
what abt barge of death
just dont get barge
raw herald
i think just keep gifting hades
signal aspen
How do I unlock the ability to use Meg against hades?
I understand hades had to...
unlock 2 summons and then some dialogue
raw herald
cant quite remembert
signal aspen
1 of those summons must be from somebody who works for hades
warm nimbus
what abt barge of death
its been a while since ive seen barge lol
lean timber
you have to do a run with at least 2 keepsakes unlocked and he will talk to you about it... i thought
alpine epoch
unlock 2 summons and then some dialogue
I've had all summons for 20+ runs now and I always talk to everyone with explication point
alpine epoch
I don't need to gift?
signal aspen
gifting probably makes it worse since theres more dialogue
lean timber
its been a while since ive seen barge lol
me too. i was so lucky for a while i skipped barge so much but now i'm getting it again :(
alpine epoch
Because it's been a LOOOOOOOONG time maybe even 30 runs with atleast 2 summons
Nothing
lean timber
i don't run mods
warm nimbus
modded gaming is superior
signal aspen
L
lean timber
- switch use
signal aspen
ratio
warm nimbus
imagine being able to get 4 sacked
lean timber
i got 5 sacked the other day it was not enjoyable
signal aspen
i actually get 5 sacked
warm nimbus
@patent mesa what do you think aboit modded superiority
raw herald
imagine knowing what your final time is gonna be at the beginning of c34
lean timber
i always know what my final time is gonna be, i'm clairvoyant
raw herald
both unmodded and modded have their perks but the thrill of seeing the sack in unmodded is unrivalled imo
ive only felt that good in modded when i got my sub 6
signal aspen
yeah i feel that tho
signal aspen
the feeling when i saw the sack on sub 5 pace was amazing
signal aspen
yeah same
raw herald
:/
signal aspen
i hope one day to have a record in unmod
anything is possible
patent mesa
i got 5 sacked the other day it was not enjoyable
I got 5 sacked a couple months ago then never again
signal aspen
weak
warm nimbus
I got 5 sacked a couple months ago then never again
same
thin echo
I could never get into speed running on an rng based game
warm nimbus
i hope one day to have a record in unmod
dont you like hades spear?
signal aspen
what does that have to do with getting records
lean timber
what does that have to do with getting records
i believe it's a snide attack on my preferences and general game prowess
warm nimbus
no
lean timber
i would like to but eh it's a lot of commitment to learn the routing and all that. not my type of thing
warm nimbus
its just that its a very unplayed aspect
lean timber
well it's ok and it's fun but i certainly don't run it a lot. i don't care for spear
like everything else is my life my appreciation for it is exaggerated heavily
signal aspen
bablo has unmodded hades wr
lean timber
bablo
signal aspen
and the next fastest time is slower by almost 2 minutes
lean timber
i recently maxed achilles and posideon aspects on that note
only used posideon so far, but meh
lean timber
throw spear into sidelines, grab it, deal damage, repeat
signal aspen
guides
signal aspen
what helped me a lot was tapping the attack button instead of holding it down
so you do special behind an enemy
mash dash
tap attack twice
but i dont play achilles so
people in the speedrunning server are more helpful
warm nimbus
i would like to but eh it's a lot of commitment to learn the routing and all tha...
also speedrunning games like hades is great bc there isnt any routing
if youre running unseeded, that is
lean timber
nah yeah i mean managing room spawns, layout optimizing, all that technical stuff i don't care to do
warm nimbus
ah i see
lean timber
also there's kind of routing in the sense of decision making but you know. obviously your route is random lol
signal aspen
i think i got a sub 8 without trying to spawn manip
lean timber
i believe that
signal aspen
im like that 💪 🥶
warm nimbus
my sub 7 was achieved by using "spawn manip"
i tried standing vaguely near the entrance at the end of waves
thats the extent of my knowledge
signal aspen
thats not really spawn manip
signal aspen
on like some rooms its spawn manip
lean timber
styx spawn manip:
warm nimbus
god i hate rat rooms
lean timber
mmm rats
warm nimbus
rat rooms suck
lean timber
i got three little vermin rooms back to back once
warm nimbus
its just a 4-5s time loss for each rat room that you can do anything about
lean timber
good thing i had athena dash!
warm nimbus
i think i got a sub 8 without trying to spawn manip
also speaking of where is the doc for that
lean timber
i saw it a while back, no idea where it went
signal aspen
skill issue
warm nimbus
its in speedcord
signal aspen
yeah
lean timber
ah
signal aspen
you cant
finite geyser
OK then how do I kill my self?
warm nimbus
just wait like 2 minutes
signal aspen
you cant
finite geyser
Here's what happened I got the credits ane getting back to the house of hades after talking to the mother and getting on the boat and then the power turned off while the door was opening to the house of hades
And ima turn my ps4 on and see my luck if I can at least come back to the river of Styx instead of doing everything again
rustic vale
But guess you can’t do that
finite geyser
I sat through it
patent mesa
OK then how do I kill my self?
true gamer right here
lost ermine
thats the extent of my knowledge
LMAO same
and i remember random room setups
like the square room in ely and the 3 island room on aspho
finite geyser
If I have to skip dialogue just to come back to the end and get mother back to the house then so be it
lost ermine
i learned a couple rooms but there's too much to memorize
warm nimbus
maybe i can get another pb on eris before i inevitably switch to beo
lost ermine
plus i man nem so if enemies don't spawn near me at the start i have to chase everywhere to kill them
and i couldn't be back to spawn mani the 2nd wave
swift inlet
How exactly do I give nectar to thanatos? I never see him in the house, and can't give him any when he's in an encounter'
patent mesa
How exactly do I give nectar to thanatos? I never see him in the house, and can'...
he shows up in the house after you see him most of the time
signal aspen
He's all the way to the left
rustic vale
In the west hall
rustic vale
In the west hall
Occasionally
viscid snow
I can't unlock Poseidon heart or the vanquish extreme measures Thesus even though I have caught 100 fish and ya know took the king to pound town. Am I missing something?
mint coral
I can't unlock Poseidon heart or the vanquish extreme measures Thesus even thoug...
Dont deliver the fish to the chief before talking to him
viscid snow
You have to keep the fish between runs?
mint coral
Yeah
viscid snow
Damn that would make sense.
mint coral
Just have at least 1 with you
viscid snow
And for Achilles and Patroclus is there anything to do to get the code word? I got to one word dialogue with Patroclus so I feel like I am missing something there too.
mint coral
Do you have both at max nectar?
viscid snow
Yup
I know the whole "be patient too" but I have seen him like 10 times with max nectar.
mint coral
How many hearts is nyx?
viscid snow
Max
mint coral
Im out of ideas, idk if having either orpheus or dude quests done helps or not
Just gotta way ig
viscid snow
I have done em both.
Well I'll keep making it hopefully it pops up for me soon. Thanks for the help with Poseidon.
rapid forum
I think I killed him with that at some point
elder pine
raw herald
Gilgamesh
lean timber
acoustic bolt
do the satyr rooms not count as encounters? i've cleared several without getting hit without triggering butterfly
signal aspen
Only the last room counts
acoustic bolt
ah ok
high island
do the satyr rooms not count as encounters? i've cleared several without getting...
They count for everything but Pierced Butterfly and Lambent Plume.
meager lava
to whoever said sword was way harder, my second clear was with bow and I still have 2 revives and 111/275 hp :I
ur right :3 sword difficult
acoustic bolt
Sword is the worst weapon
Change my mind meme
Other than Poseidon sword anyway
I think in my last 20 runs my only losses were sword
raw herald
Fists
mental vale
yeah tbh
acoustic bolt
demeter fists is like in my top 5 favorite aspects
i find them way easier to control and dodge with than sword
meager lava
sword with dash nova was my first clear :3
acoustic bolt
sword with dash nova was my first clear :3
isn't dash nova considered pretty terrible because no sword damage is from dash strikes?
astral yacht
are people using keyboard & mouse setup? Any of the high damage single blow ranged i really struggle with
short glen
Arthur sword amazing tbh
lean timber
isn't dash nova considered pretty terrible because no sword damage is from dash ...
you can still dash strike. it's garbage because the special becomes laggy and makes you jump forward
signal aspen
are people using keyboard & mouse setup? Any of the high damage single blow ran...
yeah a lot of people are using keyboard and mouse including me
rustic vale
Other than Poseidon sword anyway
How the
I would rather any other aspect including zag
On sword
astral yacht
have you found success with the cast in load or reload empowered shot? dashing around shakes the screen and throws off aim
signal aspen
ive found success in both
signal aspen
🗿
rustic vale
have you found success with the cast in load or reload empowered shot? dashing ...
I’m pretty sure you can turn off screenshake in the settings
astral yacht
well, it's not the "screenshake" as muich as zag moves around
so the camera follows
but i'll try screenshake off
rustic vale
I’m pretty sure you can turn off screenshake in the settings
Unless I remember wrong
oh so it’s less of the screenshake and more of the character moving throwing you off
signal aspen
if you have trouble aiming then you can turn on auto aim and turn off aim at cursor
for gun and bow
using auto aim with aim at cursor turned off is like aimbot
thin echo
Athena and ares duo boon bothers the hell out of me. If any deflect ability can activate the doom effects, then why can only the special and attack boon get you the duo boon. I wish Athena’s dash the dash could get you the duo boon since that’s the part that makes that boon good
rustic vale
Because that was too strong
so they cut back on which ones you could take to meet the prerequisites
short glen
^
thin echo
I mean it really isn’t too strong. Doom doesn’t do a lot of damage
latent moon
I mean it really isn’t too strong. Doom doesn’t do a lot of damage
doom itself doesn't do a lot of damage, sure, but other boons such as impending doom and dire misfortune let you stack up the doom damage a lot more
it's probably the highest dps combo in the game except for maybe like hunting blades
impending doom straight up looses its drawback of 0.5 seconds longer because of ME
signal aspen
I mean it really isn’t too strong. Doom doesn’t do a lot of damage
it is
latent moon
and pomming the crap out of impending doom can give you an extra 100+% doom damage
tough patrol
how do i get the last aspect of the imperial arms
latent moon
method is pinned in #h1-story-discussion
tough patrol
thanks
acoustic bolt
How the
Because when I'm playing sword I'm constantly trying to find a way to kill stuff without being in constant danger. And a powerful cast is a great way to do that
Or some other defensive measure for the Hades fight. Like smair with aphro call
tough patrol
Other than Poseidon sword anyway
Nemesis is better
acoustic bolt
Like yeah it's a skill issue but also the skill floor for sword feels much lower
mint coral
Nemesis is better
Yes but is a sword
acoustic bolt
I agree that nemesis is more powerful but raw power isn't really why I have issues with the sword
mint coral
So poseidon>nem for me
devout terrace
yo
tough patrol
I agree that nemesis is more powerful but raw power isn't really why I have issu...
I get that it isnt very good, and definately for new players, but U dont have much use from Psoiden
acoustic bolt
So poseidon>nem for me
I'm glad I'm not alone 😃
tough patrol
Like
mint coral
I'm glad I'm not alone 😃
🤝
rustic vale
zag>pos for me
tough patrol
zag>pos for me
?
devout terrace
btw are you idkmanassomeone on twitch
rustic vale
mint coral
...yes
devout terrace
good to know lol
void vigil
what does it do again?
mint coral
+15% speed and attac apeed
tough patrol
kinda boring ngl
mint coral
Good for rush delivery
meager lava
crit chance tho
void vigil
also hello angel :]
rustic vale
I'm biasedbecause my shackle zag sword runs went great and I haven't had the same success with shackle pos due to rng
void vigil
speed is nice
rustic vale
splash dash just isn't showing up on my pos sword runs
void vigil
but i guess the other aspects are more interesting
mint coral
Move speed in hades is fun
meager lava
I want to compare nemesis to arthur but I can't seem to unlock arthur
mint coral
Thanks whoever decided is multiplicative
rustic vale
I love arthur
rustic vale
Thanks whoever decided is multiplicative
yeah
void vigil
did you make sure to meet the requirements for it?
acoustic bolt
I can see zag sword being better than pos if rather than cast build you end up with splash dash build and just focus on dodging rather than dash strikes
latent moon
splash dash just isn't showing up on my pos sword runs
you're just doing a splash dash run while holding a sword lmao
rustic vale
at least zag sword helped with rd
acoustic bolt
you're just doing a splash dash run while holding a sword lmao
That's sort of disingenuous. The movement speed is better than not having it
rustic vale
pos does nothing
meager lava
I have no idea what I have to do to unlock guan yu :I and then arthur.
guess it's a spoiler so. ||I invested atleast some titan blood into every weapon and google says talk to achilles but he's not rly... unlocking it...||
acoustic bolt
50% cast damage is not nothing. That's less time you are in danger while casting
rustic vale
you need to have 5 titans blood in non zag aspects
mint coral
Method is pinned in #h1-story-discussion
rustic vale
50% cast damage is not nothing. That's less time you are in danger while casting
If I want to do a cast build I'll use a better aspect
void vigil
ah, you need that first. you need to unlock 5 aspects that arent zagreus aspects to unlock guan yu
latent moon
If I want to do a cast build I'll use a better aspect
talos
tough patrol
I have no idea what I have to do to unlock guan yu :I and then arthur.
guess it'...
pinned in hades-story-discussion
meager lava
I have all of that
acoustic bolt
If I want to do a cast build I'll use a better aspect
Sure although even with god keepsakes plans can change in the middle of the run
thin echo
I am in such a terrible position right now. I’m in a room full of the tiny chariot enemies with the twin fists
meager lava
but Achilles is only talking about his boyfriend >:I
void vigil
then it may be taking a while due to story, yeah
mint coral
I am in such a terrible position right now. I’m in a room full of the tiny char...
Dash between a obstacle so they collide with it
Or use your cast, it 1 shots them
thin echo
My cast doesn’t one shot them
acoustic bolt
get a boon with it
That's not very helpful while they're trying to escape an encounter they're already in
tough patrol
That's not very helpful while they're trying to escape an encounter they're alre...
Oh
meager lava
why does this server not have a vc where u can stream hades
thin echo
Oh well I’m probably just gonna have to take some big damage here unless I want to do this painfully slowly
mint coral
why does this server not have a vc where u can stream hades
Hard to moderate iirc
acoustic bolt
why does this server not have a vc where u can stream hades
Right!?
meager lava
mint coral
Oh well I’m probably just gonna have to take some big damage here unless I want ...
Dashing back and forth between an obstacle isnt that slow
acoustic bolt
I love the idea of a vc run where we can actively discuss choices while playing
Do a lot to help learning and it's fun
I expect it's less difficult to moderate than thought. Besides most people here are chill
void vigil
someone said the speedrunning server has one? unless you can only use it for speedrunning purposes, i dont know
astral yacht
using auto aim with aim at cursor turned off is like aimbot
I'll try that, thanks.
void vigil
i guess you could also make a server with a vc in it, i used to see a lot of hades fanservers in #self-promotion, but i dont expect a vc to be added to this one
devout terrace
hades
devout terrace
someone said the speedrunning server has one? unless you can only use it for spe...
its not really used for that purpose
mostly for hosting community races
meager lava
i guess you could also make a server with a vc in it, i used to see a lot of had...
sadge
void vigil
mostly for hosting community races
i see i see
acoustic bolt
Could use the vc there but I like the people here
devout terrace
safe tinsel
?
safe tinsel
gray apex
safe tinsel
A fascinating hades discussion
chrome wharf
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/901889174884466698.gif?size=44
owo
short glen
latent moon
warm nimbus
it's probably the highest dps combo in the game except for maybe like hunting bl...
beo:
hera:
clockets:
patent mesa
the highest sustained dps is probably ME or hunting blades tbh
or maybe even meme beams with good glacial
signal aspen
no its beo
patent mesa
rip
signal aspen
if you have good cast management
warm nimbus
yeah def beo
i mean its just beo
heroic qr on hera makes it easier to sustain dps tho
patent mesa
good cast management was my nickname in middle school
signal aspen
yeah so just get heroic quick reload
warm nimbus
i have
signal aspen
good cast management was my nickname in middle school
prove it
patent mesa
patent mesa
why do you need quick reload
signal aspen
5 seconds is slow
patent mesa
just special stuff with cast
warm nimbus
bc its hera
warm nimbus
5 seconds is slow
??? im talking about with qr
also heroic qr is legit insane
0.86s drop time i think
signal aspen
??? im talking about with qr
i mean 5 seconds is slow so you need quick reload
signal aspen
why do you need quick reload
.
warm nimbus
i mean 5 seconds is slow so you need quick reload
oh
well i mean only on bosses really
signal aspen
thing with hera is that quick reload uses up hermes
tall holly
poseidon sword og
tall holly
beo best shield
signal aspen
level up stygian in the mirror
hmm yes stygian on hera
warm nimbus
true but that doesnt matter if you have 1.33s drop time
signal aspen
yes it does
tall holly
why are you talking about quick reload then
signal aspen
how do you get big number
tall holly
thats for stygian
warm nimbus
how do you get big number
true big bumber is kinda gaming
tall holly
or maybe im just confused
patent mesa
sorry homie stygian's version is called auto reload
tall holly
yeah thats what i thought lol
warm nimbus
im pretty sure my fastest ever dad fight is actually the one i got as a noob with heroic qr on hera
signal aspen
how
signal aspen
thats a long ass dad fight
warm nimbus
what is
signal aspen
23 min poseidon sword
this
tall holly
meh
warm nimbus
oh
chrome wharf
that
tall holly
it was fine
warm nimbus
how long is it?
signal aspen
like 27
warm nimbus
damn nice
tall holly
shiiiit
warm nimbus
i think my fastest one on eris is around 30-32s
warm nimbus
hmmmm
patent mesa
I once had a 5s dad fight
warm nimbus
omg how
patent mesa
but the blowhards at speedrun.com kept saying I couldn't submit my run
signal aspen
yo no way
signal aspen
@ little | gremlin verify his run again
idk whats wrong with it
whats wrong with a cheat engine
warm nimbus
too much health
but just get 2 ichors from every well
acoustic bolt
What is rama skip
snow fractal
patent mesa
dad really do be op
warm nimbus
alright im going to try luci now
signal aspen
lucifer sucks
warm nimbus
isnt flash fire also good
signal aspen
its aight
warm nimbus
ah ok