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im actually leaning towards outer wilds when I think about it
don't think I've ever had a game experience like that
the thing about outer wilds is that the final puzzle is kinda incredibly badly signposted
no, getting the power core
Favorite is probably Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion or Dragon Quest IX
Best is probably Dragon Quest XI, I haven't quite finished it but it's really well put-together
for best I'd have to go with portal 2, nothing in that game doesn't work
I think The Wonderful 101 is the best video game of all time.
Certainly the best core gameplay.
There’s very little I would fundamentally change. Just tweaks and additions to the kit.
weeee
lots of good games
not the best I have ever played, but Red Alert 2 has been a childhood classic for me
Kirov reporting
When I'm asked this question I just default to the game everyone says is the best despite never playing it myself
That would be Breath of the Wild

Or Ocarina of Time I suppose
one thing for sure , no body could won GOTY
in 2017
nintendo rammed the wall so hard with BOTW and mario Odyssey(yes-y)
Uh, probably Transistor, Crosscode or Outer Wilds
I thought HZD was better than both tbh
I think Grand Theft Auto 4 would be an excellent-rated game today if 5 didn't exist and the graphics were upgraded to today's standards
Agree with you on no.1 (but It's kinda apparent since I've had the pfp)
my friends even started recommending it to others
Actually 2017 was one hell of a loaded year in general
There was also Nier, Pyre, Hollow Knight
2017 was a loot of games
platformers yet proved once again that "they aren't dying" unlike what EA said couple years back
Also Ys VIII as an honourable mention I suppose for favourite game
2017 had at least 5 games that, in any other year, would be easy goty
I can't say its quite as high quality as the others I mentioned
But its probably my favourite JRPG with Crosscode
And in terms of music only SGG games match it
chrono trigger's still solid, 25 years later
I'd say give Crosscode a shot
Its completely standalone, and has the absolute best exploration in any JRPG
better than golden sun?
Not sure I've played Golden Sun but Im still confident in saying yes
impressive
Pokemon conquest
Like I spent hours on that game just getting to every nook and cranny
golden sun's unique Thing was having environmental puzzles, many optional, that involved using combat spells to interact with things
Like you will often have situations where you see an area above you
im really confused with the versions of Persona 5, strikers, royal
And just think
"I wonder if I can get there"
Most of the time you can
And it has some really clever multi-stage environmental puzzles
Persona 5 is the base game, Royal is that game with a few additions (so basically an upgraded version) and Strikers is a spinoff
a dynasty warriors spinoff, no less
Id recommend Royal or the base game
the combat really looks cool
If royal isnt a whole lot more expensive, go with that
last "true" turn based rpg that I've played was Mario&Luigi
if you want actiony combat, Tales Of is generally the way to go
(if you include
as action rpg)
or ff7 remake
I am going to disagree heavily here
Ys is the way to go
Tales of, from my experience playing Berseria, is actually mediocre at best
Crosscode is also good action combat
yeah berseria's not a high point for the series
symphonia and vesperia are the best
I mean, from what Ive seen gameplay-wise
Those dont really fix any of my many issues with Berserias combat
If I were to start Ys , which game do you think is the best to start from?
Doesnt particularly matter since their stories are mostly isolated
But I'd say Ys VIII is the best one
Ys Memories of Celceta is also good, but its gameplay is a less refined version of VIII (since it released just before VIII)
Oh and Ys IX when it comes out in february
I'm siding more for gameplay rather than story
Does it have a long play time (like any other Action rpg?)
US members doin ok today?
40 hours-ish I believe
hey friends please take video game talk to #video-games thank you
got it
yes my best wishes to the us members 
I hope they're doing well, especially the ones near the capital
apparently there's a few riots happening in various major cities 😭
Thankfully, the only casualty seems to have been a protesting woman who was shot by law enforcement, and there don’t seem to have been any major injuries outside of that instance, so it seems the situation has developed surprisingly well so far, given the circumstances.
Senators were just in the middle of objecting to Arizona’s electors, too, so, if they weren’t going to just not do this, I wish they would have waited a bit.
In any event, Congress will be reconvening soon, so we’ll see what would have happened, I guess.
Haven’t heard about other protests, though. I’m only aware of the one in DC that seems under control now.
if I remember correctly, there's one occuring in georgia rn, unsurprisingly
Yeah, not too surprised by that.
really scary stuff
my sympathy goes to the US members 
Let me check #readme-first before I say anything else

Okay I don't see a "no politics" so I'm giving myself the green light to continue

politics are chill as long as it remains civil ^.^
hi swan 
It's reasonable to say that people have become a lot more vocal about politics here
hello (I'm not actually here I'm in class so byee)
bye swan 
2020 just said : yeah I'mma open this one box right here and see whats in it
There has been large tensions between both parties building up for a while now
When Biden won the election a lot of us were expecting riots
non-americans aren't surprised, either. I definitely wish my american friends were in a better environment
everyone be making the pikachu face here
Then Trump kept pushing the narrative of a stolen election to his followers
His followers are primarily Republican, and they have a heavy emphasis on individual freedoms and rights, such as the right to own guns
It's not really surprising they took up their arms in support of Trump
I was in the US when parkland happened, and was at a high school back then (I was in northeast US)
I remember when there was a heated convo about gun control
(I really don't love to dive in politics, i only just want to mention it)
Of the 50 states, 43 require you to be a certain age to own a gun
guns are needed for when politics are actually corrupt like $2000 corrupt not stuff like a conspiracy theory is my thinking
and the stuff behind background checks and what not
The other 7 states do tend to vote Republican
it's such a shame that gun rights became a right wing ideal
the time for gun control was about 70 years ago
now it's a matter of defending yourself from your crazy fash neighbors
There are conservative Democrats (blue dogs) but they've fallen off considerably in recent history
^
(and yes, that includes the cops)
Occupying just 18/222 of the Democratic seats in the House
I really love how you're simplifying it for us
It's hard to say where politics have become more polarized or it's just the polarized people being more vocal
I agree with the argument that party lines are becoming further apart though and I do cite numbers to support it
depends whether u mean the actual legislators and their policy positions, or the people voting for them
b/c the majority of DNC members don't actually support substantially different policies from the GOP
A very recent example is the stimulus
chuck backed mitch
the one that nearly every dem senator voted to ram through at 600?
They both supported $1200 but Democrats pushed for $2000 while Republicans got away with $600
that stimulus?
The Democrats lost all their negotiating power until Trump supported $2000
They waited too long and had to settle for $600 or nothing
the dems give away any power we try to force upon them
they don't want different things than the GOP, they just know it gets them reelected to say they do
There was bipartisan support for $1200 before
They only want what helps them get re-elected, and since the majority of Democratic voters support different things then Republican voters, they want different things
i think as long as it is respectful? Like i havent stated that im a communist so things have been fine so far
Not that hot really but I'm just glad the US has a "boring" president again.
Well.... not yet it doesn't
2 weeks
Let the crazies have their share with rioting and couping.
Won't change a thing
honestly im not tbh, cause like a "boring" president means people will quiet down and let the same crimes that trump did go by with no note
I'm guessing that things are gonna remain "interesting" for a long time... can't put the cat back in the bag
like biden has already said he will keep kids in cages
You are referring to the immigrants from Mexico
yeah
Takes hotter than a ps4 running next gen games
Honestly it feels like this every election cycle.
KFC console?
Biden is far more of a moderate Democrat and some people on the far left even call him a Republican
Whereas other candidates pledged to cancel college debt, Biden has explicitly stated he won't do that
Haven't touched one so i'll lyk when I do
i mean he is a centralist in the end
Folks, come on, Dems just won the Senate
(not good in politics but...) Bernie sanders was bold , like boold
President is only so powerful
We now know bills won't be gridlocked
Things take time.
Looking at Biden's votes, he is far to the right than some of his peers like Bernie and Elizabeth Warren, but he's still leaning quite a bit to the left
I mean, y'all got some messed up system
Don't put all your chips on the Presidency
Because the President doesn't make law
Congress does
And Dem have both the Senate and House.
It's more like the perception of the Democratic has been shifted left due to some outspoken people on the far left
Biden getting into office isn’t going to miraculously save everything but it’s a start
dems also helped to shoot down us getting $2000 instead of $600, like mitch said they wouldnt vote on the $2000 but then bernie pushed for it and still 44 dems voted against it could be wrong on that number tbh
one thing i was certain of, even before elections.. either US will be screwed, or the whole other world will be screwed, or both
Like a two-party system is inherently bad, but then having the parties be center-right and far right is just
Wack
Then again, how do you fix that
Winning the House and Senate is gigantic victory for the Democrats
Bro honestly the US’s whole political system is out of wack
Well I'm more hopeful. With Turtle Mitch out of the way, the game of chicken can stop.
Everything we do is based on a 200 year old piece of paper
I believe supports are coming
Which is supposed to be updated regularly hence the Amendment
The $2000 bill went through the House but the Senate has yet to hear it
But good fkig luck trying to change anything substantial in this political climate
Mitch has delayed the Senate vote
No the senate voted already
You mean MINORITY leader Mitch?
WASHINGTON – The Senate adjourned Friday night without securing $2,000 stimulus checks, leaving hopes for another round of payments in the hands of the next Congress.
The Senate did not take up whether to increase the $600 stimulus check payments that President Donald Trump demanded be raised to $2,000. Now, Congress will not reconvene until Sunday to end the 116th Congress, and usher in the 117th.
not every amendment is good.. any other can declare a right for president to stay for 3 terms, or even forever, as long as he is elected again
The next Congress refers to whoever won the elections which we just had yesterday for Georgia
and, you know, forging the results is not that hard, when you have elections controlled
and then boom, you have Belarus
I'm very sympathetic to the argument that whatever worked before may not work well today
Crazy idea but times change
So we do nothing in term of amendment?
which is exactly the reason why long terms are not good
Our system of government needs to adapt
However I also must admit the freedoms in our Constitution have allowed this country to flourish economically
No one is saying anything about long terms of presidency
For a time, it worked quite well
i'm just saying, amendments should be done carefully and with people's consent
It is still working well but we are entering late-stage capitalism
But the way our current system works is outdated, inefficient, and problematic
Which results in massive wealth gaps and corporate exploitation that the government doesn't have the power to fix
who am i to judge, our system is even more broken
I mean abolishing the EC is a start.
Because the corporations hold the power in this country
EC was intended back in the days with vastly different landscape than what we have now.
“Trickle down economics”
I mean
Bro do not get me started on Electoral College
As a german I can say that
There is nothing inherently wrong with no term limits
Merkels been elected, what
4 or 5 times now?
I think there is potential for abuse
Xi Jinping just removed all of his term limits
There’s 100% potential for abuse
The potential for abuse only exists if the systems of checks and balances have failed
In China the government owns everything
At which point it doesnt matter what the law says
How many Germans do we have on this Discord? Love you all.
No idea, I think I recall at least one other being here
Jack Ma spoke up against the government and then he was put in his place
He thought he was in America

Like, the idea of restricting term limits for the sake of ensuring no dictator can come to power is silly because
apparently jack is just lying low for now
Well if a dictator can come to power, they can just get rid of term limits that way
More hurdles though
i just want to say, people who are in charge of the country, shouldn't be able to control all the ways and meanings for possible leaders change
It would be pretty hard for a president to remove the limit of terms for the presidency
That is one of the advantages of so heavily defending the Constitution
Its a trivial hurdle compared to the proper ones
There are some things in there which are still very good to have even now
problem is not in same rulers staying forever, problem is that if people are not satisfied with them, there should be the way to get rid of them
If there is no seperation of power, then laws can be changed easily
Yeah and thats what checks and balances are for
Or hell, even then they would need to keep winning elections
^
Id be much more worried about the fact that the checks and balances have failed
they have choice, they can pick sides
But yeah the american system is bad, but worse is that it doesnt seem fixable
2, to be exact.
Yea anything else and your opinion doesn’t matter
2 is better than one
I mean hell if you choose the wrong choice in the wrong state your opinion doesnt matter
yeah amerika's beyond salvaging
Oh i was thinking about the defense bill that they voted on instead of the $2000 lol
Like imagine being a republican in California
On that he sided with Mitch
We’re not beyond salvaging we just need reform
Republicans are over represented.
i mean
Ranked choice voting bro
we're beyond the point where meaningful reform can actually pass
😎
I think so?
not really
You'd need to get rid of the two-party system
The problem with getting any sort of reform to work with our country is anyone who can make a difference is the kind of person who currently benefits from our way of living
like it has to start with "abolish the GOP"
And yet the only way to do that is for the people who benefit from it to agree to it
The GOP is eating itself up currently
Youd also need a super-majority I believe
So yeah, I think so
So thats particularly unrealistic
yeah the powerful have never, not once in history, agreed to give up their power for the good of the masses
You’d also need to abolish the EC
not without a literal blade to their figurative throats
Which would require people voted in by the EC to agree to it
Texas is learning purple. Once Texas is blue. The current GOP as we know it would be a vestige of the past.
This whole process is a mess
Lol no
But no one wants that
Just turn Texas blue bro
Revolutions are awful
i mean
no revolution required
the DNC wants almost all of the same things the GOP does
they just make noise to the contrary to obscure how screwed it all is
Someone say revolution? 
The democrats wont hold power endlessly
Now this is a hot take
And while theyre better than the republicans by a wide margin
They still are right-leaning economically
the worst crack downs on the george floyd protests came from democratic mayors/governors
Yeah, idk about this one chief.
amerika was designed for slave owners, by slave owners
From a global standpoint America is right leaning
Because the protests happened in cities where people are democratic
Honestly this political talk makes fearful cause I'm still afraid of getting banned even tho it's civil so I'm going to back out lol
idk how u can be unclear on the fact that the DNC is still significantly right of center
Nah they are definitely right-leaning economically
Like damn those 5G towers coincides with Covid map
They most closely match our CDU
because that's where people are...
Tho uno and churlington are right
Ah yes heatmaps that are just population maps
Except with less support for universal healthcare
Protests happen in big cities, so crackdowns happen there, too
i miss the 00s internet.. or at least early 10s.. now you can be banned by anyone for anything
if the dems were the good guys, something would've changed in ONE of those cities
That’s not even remotely true but alright
people have to learn to understand each other
No we can't talk video games here. Let's talk about goku and how I wish he was my dad
your dad AND in smash
hatred is born out of fear and ignorance..
Mine is Kurt Vonnegut
Terry Pratchett, yeah
good one
Or the super broly movie and how goku and vegeta had the freshest drip
I can’t read 😔
My condolences.
My hottest take is that humans shouldn't eat fish cause we can't breathe under water but no one is ever ready for that one
is fish even edible
Fish is vegan
i mean, the smell and stuff
They don't feel
Dude, fish is awesome
I love fish
Not a big fan but I like sushi, too
Fish is vegan yeah but like I just think we shouldn't eat them cause we don't live under water. It's a dumb hot take cause so many societies rely on fishing to survive and I would never tell someone they have to not eat fish
Like it's a hot take that only applies to me lol
so no kelp either?
Yeah
some birds eat fish, however
I’m a fan of calamari
Yes
i saw a wild banana plant yesterday, with the heart hanging off the banana bunches, and i couldn't reach it and i'm still sad about it. you can make vegan fish using brined banana heart.
Yeah seafood in general since we can't live where they live. Frogs are fine since they can breathe water, birds are fine since they have to land
what day is it now?
Because they taste good?
and the idea of brined banana-fish (ha) with plantain...
I don’t know if I could eat a frog
a better objection would be that frogs are endangered why would you eat them
Are they? 
Are they?
lmao
And i don't care if birds eat fish since im not going to push this belief on anyone lol. I guess if I did I would say it's fine that birds eat fish since they aren't human
there's no environment that's not about to be massively disrupted
Weird take but I get ya.
Yeah it's my hottest take lol
I look up “are frogs endangered” and Google tells me “Not extinct”
Like thanks but that’s not what I asked
Arent there some frogs that are super endangered cause they can't leave their birth water source?
axolotl are extinct in the wild, unfortunately
Not if Minecraft has anything to say about it
Now this makes me sad
I love mudkips irl :(
yeah frogs are considered coalmine canary species as far as ecological health goes
the first inhabitants of a given environment that're gonna get messed up by pollution are the frogs
b/c they breathe and drink through their skin, which means all the time
tbh, eating animals, that were not raised for that purpose specifically seems not a good idea
especially since the definition of edible meat varies from country to country
somewhere it includes, like, spiders and stuff
one guy made a bat soup last december, and here we are
:D S+ tier for me that W3
Ocarina Of Time best vidya game
I will reiterate The Wonderful 101.
Literally have never heard of that one
Are you familiar with PlatinumGames or maybe the Bayonetta series?
I heard of Bayonetta yeah
Wrong chat still
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This was the first time I was involved with greek mythology
what was yours? haha
Hm… I heard the story of Persephone very early on.
Still one of my favorite Greek myths.
hades is pictured as a bad guy, but I heard he's just chill and doing his work
and zeus is a major unfaithful god lmao
yea Hades isnt really a bad guy
i.e he even gave Orpheus and eurydice a chance to go back to the living world, but orpheus messed it up
Yeah, Hades is more about balance and justice as far as Greek gods go. He’s stern and cold, and he’s primarily occupied with the Underworld, but he’s not really evil. He’s just sort of passive.
As far as I know, he never really did anything wrong even by today’s standards.
The Rape of Persephone is questionable, depending upon how you interpret it, but it was the most stable relationship in the Greek pantheon, Persephone is often depicted as the (part-time) queen of the Underworld, and there’s not much to suggest in most accounts of the story that it was against Persephone’s will.
Also, according to my Latin teacher, who majored in classics, Hades’s personification in Greek mythology is kind of at odds with things like lust, sexual desire, and procreation. He is, after all, mainly concerned with people who have passed on. Hades’s infatuation with Persephone isn’t really sexually explicit in nature, as far as I know, and, unlike many divine pairings, they never had any children. That’s all just to say that asserting that something sexually offensive occurred between Hades and Persephone is iffy at best.
The fact of the matter, though, is that the Greek myth doesn’t really have all that much to say about Persephone’s opinion on the matter. Zeus, her father, consented to her marriage to Hades, so, as far as the Greeks were concerned, it was a valid marriage. Anything beyond that is just conjecture, and I’m purely hypothesizing based on what I’ve been told and other, peripheral information in the Greek mythos.
This game’s depiction of Zagreus as the son of Hades and ||Persephone|| is actually unique, as far as I know. Zagreus in general is a very obscure figure, and there’s not really much to go off of.
He’s sometimes identified with the Orphic Dionysus, who is very, very different from the standard Dionysus. I really don’t know all that much about him, but, in Orphic tradition, Zagreus/Dionysus is the son of Zeus and Persephone, and his descent to the Underworld and subsequent return is considered extremely important. I’m not exactly sure why Dionysus goes to the Underworld in Orphism because he traditionally does so to rescue his mother, Semele, but, since his mother in Orphism is Persephone, I don’t really know what the motivation is. All I know is that it was really important to the Orphics.
The earliest mentions of Zagreus, though, identify him as a higher-up in the Underworld, and I think they link him to Gaia somehow. Some contemporary Greeks identified Zagreus as an alternate name of Hades or possible Hades’s son.
This game’s Zagreus seems to be a combination of the two myths.
(quick note--|| being the son of Persephone would fall under a spoiler for Hades, could you tag her name at the top? ||)
Oop, yep. Sorry about that!
Thanks
I've done a bit of research into this myself, after learning that Zagreus is actually from Greek myths, and I found this bit rather interesting--
In Greek a hunter who catches living animals is called zagreus
(from the Wikipedia page)
and how he was a god of hunting and rebirth by some accounts
God of Rebirth fits with the Underworld, but I was surprised that he was also a God of Hunting
Got free pizza cause it got misdelivered apparently so free dinner
Free pizza best pizza
Basically
Getting a lot of Twitter followers right now. I might not be who you're trying to follow. You're looking for the former president, not the Hearthstone player.
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God this is great
We have no contact delivery so they leave it at the door. We usually have a chair for food orders so they left it there. Moment I touched the pizza it was basically no going back zone
Cause a non employee has access to the food it's considered unsafe
And they basically just remake the order

ISRAEL JUST BOMBED SYRIA BECAUSE THEY KNEW IT WOULD BE OVERLOOKED
PLEASE DONT LET IT BE OVERLOOKED
SYRIA IS MY HOME
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damascus got hit by the israelis
don't let it go under
Got a similar experience, kinda, with Dominos. They delivered an extra pizza for me. I told the guy I didn't order the extra one.
He realized that they gave the previous customer the wrong one. So dude left to correct the order.
Later on I got a free pizza coupon as an "apology" lol.

Neverending pizza 
Like that one SCP
Too late I already break it into smaller pieces and eat each piece
I started with the hook because it was easier to break :D
Step two, bite it in the middle. Just cronch on through
Step three, spit it out and unwrap the plastic
Step four, drop all the pieces into a cup of hot chocolate
Step five, stir it. Use your finger, I guess?
Step six, take your finger out, that was too hot. Ouch!
Step seven, find some broccoli and contemplate your life choices while the drink cools down
step one, snort it
Step eight, use the broccoli to stir the hot chocolate, that's much safer
(Full disclosure, I don't really care for candy canes)
Everything okay there

I monologue in servers a lot but that one was a little intense
Is it OK if I can bounce a few ideas off you guys regarding greek monsters?
More in terms of different takes on ones that already exist
I kind of like the Greek setting for Hades but I'm definitely not that interested but maybe someone else is
there has been a small retelling of the myth about Perseus defeating Medusa the Gorgone, a terrible monster who could turn anyone who looked at her into stone.. he was cunning and used his shield to fight with her reflection..
i was around 5 yo, and have no idea how that got in the book.. there was nothing else about Greece, or myths, it was a book of fairytales and poems for kids
i discovered the full story much much later, about Athena, Poseidon, others involved.. about a statue of Medusa holding Perseus' head, erected recently in the US near the courthouse, as a symbol of true justice, etc
then were some soviet cartoons about Jason and the argonauts, about Prometheus and his great ~~heist ~~feat..
less serious cartoon about Olympic games origin (where gods were so mixed up, that Zeus and Mars were in the same setting)
weird tv ad of some hepatic medication, ofc, starring Prometheus
and then was school course
Why is 7 hours of sleep so low?
Some one holds me
Some dude talking mad stuff about Hades in RoR2 server, completely off topic
My bias is rising
🤗
😤
Good or bad

@proud flicker My precious 
Hades is an artsy game with no gameplay. The game is too easy to be called a roguelike. Huh duh I'm a hardcore g*mer who beat Dank Soul in one try and eat Doritos for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and post hot takes on a different game on the RoR2 main channel.
Some paraphrasing was used.
anyone who argues that "too easy" is a thing that matters in games is not to be taken seriously
like, the argument is insane to me, i beat every soulsborne game (even bloodborne without ever figuring out how to make parry work), and i 100% want them to have tourism modes where there are no enemies because irithyll is too pretty to be gatekept like that
You forgot to say you drink 8 gallons of Mountain Dew everyday
Real gamers drink RedBull and have heart attack Peach. Get with the time now :D
You are in a Fight Club? 
of course not
Free Company AKA guild 😄
and if they were, they couldn't talk about it
The argument that Hades is an artsy game with no good gameplay makes little sense to me.
While the game is no doubt gorgeous, the only real appeal to me is the gameplay.
I don’t see much else outstanding about the game aside from the art, and that’s not necessarily a dig. I just see Hades a game that is just a game.
ooh so you're not particularly attached to the soundtrack?
Some of the tracks I’ve heard are very nice, but I don’t have a particularly special attachment to it, personally.
The game is very nice to look at and good to listen to, but its gameplay is where it really shines. It’s simple, which is to say that it’s not more complex than it needs to be, but the combat is effective and fun.
that's interesting. i need to play hades ha ha
hades, never heard of em 😏
so i just got my new controller. i also rarely played games for a few years due to health reasons. but i'm playing them again this year 🤩
Mostly agree with the previously stated opinion, I think the game does a good job with the portraits and models, but it's certainly not on the level of graphics in a AAA game
and i'm still mentally figuring out what i play first. i have a feeling it's gonna be NITW and its prequels
And that's probably for the best because developing graphics seems to eat up way too much cash and time
I was really interested to learn that the game was apparently designed with its story in mind because, to me, the story’s remarkable quality is primarily in that the structure of the game is reflected by and incorporated into the narrative. The story feels like it was built around the gameplay, which is excellent, but I don’t find the story in and of itself compelling.
The world, however, is fascinating if only for how it interprets Greek mythology.
ayy niceu, what controller did you get?
just a simple xbox one. i was gonna get the raiju one by razer but it is expensive
I haven’t played Hades since Sunday night. 😔 Been too busy with work and hanging out with friends. Not that I mind my friends, of course—I quite like them, actually.
xbox one controllers are great :3
One served me for 4 years until recently
i'm so grateful that the people in my life understand how controller gaming works then!! that's great news
i'm just a yahoo that gets away with wasd and a gamer mouse
I like Xbox controller a good bit. I don’t like how its face-button layout in the West is an inversion of Nintendo’s layout, though. It confuses me too much.
I think the story and the gameplay both came from the premise

Which is closer to being a story than gameplay
Tru dis
controller for most games just feels more comfy for me :3
Man tries to escape his home, keeps getting killed and reviving back in the home
Story is he keeps finding out more each time he leaves

interesting. that person in self-promo using a guitar hero controller makes me think
And PlayStation’s controller is fine, but I don’t like the symmetrical sticks on the newest one, and I prefer contiguous D-pads to split ones.
Also, I think Sony’s face-button naming scheme is bad because the symbols aren’t readily available on standard keyboards. It’s faster to type A than it is to write out “triangle”, and it’s easier to know that A corresponds to A on the controller than it is to explain to someone that T is shorthand for “triangle”.
Understandable.
In hindsight Xbox would have been better because native Windows support
I almost always prefer controllers.
Minecraft is the only game I play with a keyboard and mouse.
Then again, I’m primarily a console player.
i'm lucky in that i can get away with being an animal that uses wasd on the basis that i play a lot of wasd-friendly games, but that'll have to change once i start abzu
Also, my one gripe with Nintendo’s button layout is that they have yet to name the stick clicks. Sony uses L3/R3, which is good, and Microsoft uses LS/RS, which is fine if easily confused with simply moving the left and right sticks, but Nintendo has no dedicated name.
I’m partial to CL/CR, which is pretty common community terminology, because it aligns with the ZL/ZR naming scheme and pays homage to the C-Stick and C-pad on the N64 and GCN, respectively, just as ZL/ZR pays homage to the Z button on those same consoles. Plus, the C can stand for “control stick”, so LS/RS can still refer to just moving the sticks themselves. It’s a sensible way to name the stick clicks.
I also don’t like how the D-pad on the Joy-Con is split into four separate buttons, but I get why it’s necessary for the controller to work. I mainly use the Pro Controller, anyways, which doesn’t have that issue. I need to send my Joy-Con in for repair, now that I’m thinking about it—I have a bit of drift on my right stick. It doesn’t affect most of what I play, but it’s annoying in the games that it does impact.
Wth is CL CR and ZL ZR
Nope. They just say something like “press the left stick” most of the time.
ZL/ZR are the second set of shoulder buttons. They correspond to L2/R2 on PS controllers.
N64's hideous goblin controller had a third "shoulder" button on the underside called Z
The GCN controller also had a Z button.
It was a single additional shoulder button.
Also, I think people criminally misunderstand the N64 controller. I like the number of different grips for different games and control layouts. 😔
My bro: Is Hades GOTY? Me: Well for me it is. My bro: God Of The Year
funny exchange
love that for your brother
i mean, i stand by the wii u having the coolest hardware of any console ever made, so i can't really be too harsh on people liking The Trident
The Wonderful 101 would not exist in its current form without the Wii U’s touchscreen even though the game is completely playable without it, so I am thankful for the hardware if only for that.
Most people I know play with the right stick, but I know of at least one high-level player who uses the touchscreen because of how fast he can draw with it. It’s astounding.
sooooo
my best friends dad loves playing hades 😳
I dunno why but I wanna play games with my mom
my fav controller is the switch procon
Ye same
Them: So what did you write your dissertation on?
Me: The roughly four hundred years that comprise medieval Japan, from 12th to 16th centuries, give or take a century or two. You?
Them: Modern US politics, about 1pm to 6pm, January 6, 2021.
Me: Ah yeah nods that makes sense.
477
DOES ANYONE TRADE THEIR HADES TRADING CARDS
any good games
I feel mildly clickbaited when I see the sudoku guy solving puzzles with no numbers at all in the start, only it turns out there’s a gimmicky rule the puzzle uses
no, you can't eat a whole ass capybara https://t.co/Ca2v76aMUx
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You know what sucks , having to check your pc or in need to format it
search your pc before you get something , lads
@hexed hollow if you want to look into this
Yo Racc00n would you mind DMing me the messages this person sent you and I'll have a look into it :3
Ok
Not againn
again?
I thought I did
Guys there is this virus on Steam that can brick your computer and send your bank account information to a Nigerian Prince. If you have logged into your Steam account within the last 25 hours, please send me your account user name and password, as well as the code from your 2-factor authenticator if you have one, so I can verify that your account is sage.
Yours sincerely,
Steam Support Member
I will thank you
but I don't want my account to be sage 
Don't worry, we also have thyme and salt out of which you can make a good rub for your pork roast.
yeah, turns out the PogChamp person is an awful awful person
so twitch don't wanna be associated with that
that's the tl:dr anyways
yeah, so I heard
I'm sad to see it go though. In my opinion, the emote stood for something that is other than the person in that emote.
But eh, the world keeps on rolling ig
unfortunately having the emote as it is right now means you're tying the person to that emote
and from a buisness perspective you don't want to be tied to someone who has been shown to believe and act upon those awful beliefs
Yeah
I mean there is a point to be made that that prick absolutely hates the emote, so using it still spites him but
Its not a good PR look for Twitch either way
which makes it weird that BTTV aren't removing the PogChamp emotes with the person's face
what is bttv?
better twitch tv, a browser add on for twitch that has a bunch of community added emotes (both gif and standard emotes)
oh nice
yeah, FrankerFaceZ is another browser add on, it has a bunch of Quality of Life options for twitch too as well as a whole bunch of community added emotes
It's just a guy making a funny face though

We ironically use many deplorable people for funny faces
I guess I will categorize PogChamp the same as Pepe memes. Only use in appropriate context with people who you know are using it ironically. Aka not in public.
Do people in public even understand PogChamp or Pepe
nah i'm still saying pog around my boomer parents
Does Pepe even have a negative connotation?
i don't give a heck if it's cringe
it's an anarchist symbol or something, supposedly
I thought in Hong Kong they like Pepe
I mean
a) I don't use Pog irl, that's cringe.
b) By public I mean Facebook, Reddit, etc. Discord server is a grey area that I am yet to figure out.
in that case
Love you Gerry Berry, you do you <3
POG
he literally just did
like, literally
he literally literally just did
Oh my time to make 10 Discord accounts and tell him how offensive that was
good thing twitch is already redesigning the P-gCh-mp emote :3
I think you meant to say "PogChamp" there
Hey guys we replaced PogChamp with DogChamp it's just a dog making the same facial expression

thanatos' hair took a hard left, a hard right, right in the center of his head
so funny story. for one of my D&D campaigns I got a robe of useful items, and rolled something that let me summon two loyal mastiffs
so I named them Pog and Champ
Champ has since died (and was avenged), but Pog is going strong

That's pretty Pog
Not very champ there
Well, whatever happened to PogChamp, I will continue to name my Pokemon water starters BogChamp
?
Bog
me no speako crazyo

A Mudkip named BogChamp makes sense no?
me is confusion
I agree
Do you know what Pokemon is?
yes
Do you know what water is?
Mudkip -> Marshtomp -> Swampert
Cool. Do you know what a name is?
yes
Swan take it slowly
Mine is Gerry
Nice! We are getting somewhere
So I play Pokemon. I caught a Pokemon
agreed
understood
I name it BogChamp
Why tho?
because there is Mud in Bogs
WHAT IS A BOG
shoulda led with that
I just wanted to have fun :(
but that wouldn't've been nearly as funny
Good point. @proud flicker You made the right decision.
🎷 🦒
🔫 
i fear no man. but that thing. it scares me

oki doki. i make semi-professional music and i can't rent a studio because of covid so I made this in BeepBox and was wondering if it sounded any good.
wait the link is too long
NOOO
stuff like that goes into #self-promotion @forest basalt 
oh sorry.
but that sucks though. i'm thinking abt my music friends and how they've been impacted by covid regarding recording studios
mmhm, human malware definitely impacted the industry hard which really sucks
human malware.
yeah, Gamers Nexus started calling covid that when youtube was demonitising videos for mentioning it
so human malware stuck as a term for me 😂
💀 I call myself human malware in my carrd bio so that description made me Think
Quick question, can you not send photos in the off topic channels anymore? Idk if it’s just on mobile or if I need a role or something, just wanted to show off my Minecraft farm
don't think anyone except mods can, though imgur links work
Ah alrighty, good to know!
i have a bunch of google docs filled with random images to bypass this on other servers
cool kids use gyazo
gyazo leaves a border here
i've never used imgur because their account system is a little sketch
me no likey
imgur is full of people treating it like it's reddit
🥲
I use it purely as an image hosting site lol
yes
lul
I've never looked at something again after I uploaded it
^
like people will upload their *fitness progress pics on there, will forget to turn off comments, and a bunch of 12 year olds will reply with their manifesto
Speaking of Manifesto
Can I recommend this book called Normal People by Sally Rooney?
The book is an awesome read, though it has hilarious moments.
Like people flirting by recommending the Communist Manifesto to each other.
I died reading that chapter xD
consider it recommended
I recommend watching Feelsgoodman documentary, it's very well made about all connotations and origins and stuff of the meme
I saw the trailer and it sounded like boomers trying to research memes they didn't understand at all

basically a while ago pepe was considered one of the neonazi symbol, and you could've been banned for using any pepe memes in public
at this point everything and everyone can have negative connotation
depends of how much you know
or what kind of politic preferences does the person or creator of something have
I don't think enough people associate PogChamp with the right and if no one said anything about the guy then I think no one would ever have

I think if the guy were making money off people spamming his face then definitely bring it up
But from what I hear the guy actually hates seeing himself everywhere on Twitch
then, i guess, deleting his emote is.. supporting him?
It's dumb
i've always knew twitch is a shady bureau
It's owned by Amazon, what did you expect
Twitch itself is filled with stories of deplorable character
The company itself anyway

in a several hours this guy had sooo much free advertizing, i guess, he never got so much before with his own channel
Yeah twitch just sucks and corporate internet makes the internet unuseable
if it's not twitch
Did twitch even get rid of the guys channel
that's the problem, there's nowhere to go
YouTube streams
No where cause twitch doesn't let a competition exist

if not [president name], then who?
Sure there might technically be other platforms out there, but the main one is also so much larger than the rest that you're effectively locked into it if you want actual exposure
You tube sucks too and the issue is that there is no alts cause they control the internet. Internet should be public not private
no ethical conchumption, and all that jazz
twitch has been okay in middle 10s.. youtube a little earlier
Amen
idk what happened next
Internet should be public not private
Yes, Internet should be public. But private options should exist.
When corporations get big they always degrade their product to save money
I don't want to use public wifi to play vidya tyvm

Laws were passed giving more power when they partnered with service providers
Internet for emailing and info, new is fine
But an option to pay for good internet must exist
I meant access to internet
i guess, public means.. not owned by several big corps
Like the ability to create your own wifi should be an option but you can get sued in the us for trying to do that
not public as public network
Yes
why must an option to pay for good internet exist? why can't good internet just be free?
Really, I feel like the biggest lesson to be learned from all of this is that corporations are probably providing better arguments against capitalism than any critics of it ever could at this rate
Because unlike healthcare, water, food, people don't explicitly die without Internet.
I wish that we live in a perfect world
But we dont
And Adam Smith is rolling in his grave
Public service will be usable at a minimum level
See also: public transit
That's the kind of Internet you will get
ok but how does any of that mean that good internet CAN'T be free?
God don't get me started on how messed the us public transit is
Internet should be free. Good Internet being free is a dream.
I hope it can happy.
But I don't believe it will.
good internet being free is extremely easy, is the thing
Is it?
it costs pennies a day to run gigabit speeds
I think what fox is trying to say is that asking for good free internet is too idealist especially in this political climate
since we're living in the world, where you can't expect even a proper free healthcare, what can we expect from a thing that is meant for "debauchery and fraud", as conservatives say about internet
oh, asking for anything short of the complete collapse of the social order in the next 30 years is too idealistic
like, we're going very nearly extinct by the end of the century, i'm well aware
I don't want a revolution in my lifetime tyvm
well, too bad
i do want.. at least the local one
since there is no other options left, if we're to stay here
you're going to see the end of civilization unless you're much older than i think you are
I don't think it'll be the end of civilization. End of US for sure
I am 24. I understand the environment needs help.
i guess, nuclear war has been scheduled for 2021? by some news here and there
Like the world existed before the U.S. and will after it
large-scale farming will not be possible by 2100
But that is different than a social collapse. If anything, a revolution of the sort you are imagine would slow the environmental progress.
like, flat out, there's no way to salvage it anymore
best case scenario we have left is 60% of the human population dies off
I dont think climate change will kill every human, just a lot
I will need sources for those claims.
just the overwhelming majority, yes
i'll need sources for why i should care what you think tbh
well, every new end of the world scenario have to be confirmed
You guys ever feel like humanity just really sucks at governing itself?
no
i do often feel like white people suck at just about everything, tho
source: been a white people most of my life
Well, compared to what we have back in the days, I say we are improving.
i do
Remember to not get rude
people are flawed, but rulers have no right to be flawed

I mean you are engaging in a discussion. If I tell you I am Donald Trump I'd better have proof shouldn't I?
true, the block button is a many-splendored thing
Lol sure
sometimes i wish we can be governed by AI.. it has no soul, no mercy, no compassion.. and at the same time, no greed, no vanity, no hatred
Hey don't block fox, they are nice
difference of opinion
Rouge Servitors are the best government type basically
Best Stellaris DLC
:D
I mean they have a point about proving claims tho tbh
Be careful or you get blocked, too xD
Like that volerant dunkey vid loo
well, science claims that even people don't have souls, so what's the difference
You want to get blocked too?
I can't remember the next line lol
wait is this discussion about the environment?
What did I do though?
Said in a meek voice
It was hilarious
Yo celo I think you are hacking
where is it from?
Dunkey's valorant vid
ah

Hi Aggy
Hai Fox! 
Missed out I guess
It was mild
didn't miss out on much
I got blocked xD
you blocked, but no one would do such a thing
Anyway I've been booting up the old Hades lately
is it possible?
Dat one time someone weighed alive and dead ppl to weigh a soul
Unless they both weighed exactly the same that wouldn't really tell you anything

Oh I misunderstood
Yes he weighed an almost dead people and weighed them again after they dead a few moments after
It's circumstancial at best
At worst you find out nothing, at best you find out that being alive adds some mystery weight


Just saying hello, joined last night and forgot to say anything. Loving Hades thus far but still not finished 
hii

~~omg is that a spyro emoji? 👀 ~~
it is 
(spyroji)
yeah
1/1/18 EDIT: Shuzo Matsuoka is a retired Japanese professional tennis player who does motivational speeches like this as a career and is a well known meme in the Japanese internets. HE IS NOT A JAPANESE FISHERMAN WHO ALWAYS FARMS ASIATIC CLAMS IN -10 DEGREE CELSIUS WEATHER AS SOCIAL MEDIA IS SUGGESTING. Sorry to burst some motivational bubbles b...
The tweet was good but the embedded image has a swear so had to be removed per server rules
lol ive rly gone and messed up my bloodborne now
let my cat on my balcony
Cat
I want to pet it :D :D :D
Kitty at your foot and you want to touch it?
I have a joke about cats.
Five English cats and five French cats are attempting to swim across a river. Which group makes it across?
Which one?
The English group because un, deux, trois, quatre, cinq (un, deux, trois cat sank).
It works better when spoken, but, uh, you get the idea.

A Mexican was counting to three.
Uno
Dos
Poof!
He disappeared without a tres.
How many Mexicans does it take to change a lightbulb?
|| Juan ||
(this is the only one I remembered
)
A bee keeper was called to remove a bee hive in a neighborhood.
He removed all but about 5 bees. So the house-owners inquired about this.
He said: "Oh, you are welcome. Those are freebies."
two drums and a cymbal fall off a cliff
What kind of sea creature gives the best hugs? ||Cuttlefish!||
that’s cute
What do you call an egg-laying mammal in a tartan? ||A Plaidypus||
And when it puts on a hat? ||Perry the Plaidypus!||
What do you get from a pampered cow? ||Spoiled Milk||
Are we done with bad terrific joke?
i hope not
Aw, I wanted to tell this story my grandfather told me when I was a kid.
! ! go ahead
Oh ok.

where’d it go....
ruh-roh
dril once again proving prophetic https://twitter.com/dril/status/514358440706457600
HandsomeTruthTeller,
Your YouTube account has been suspended for the following reasons: Extortion, Treason,
554
1653
...oh my god he's still tweeting even now
Where does George Washington keep his armies? || In his sleevies! ||
Sorry it took a while to finish typing this. But here:
When I was a kid, my grandfather used to tell me bedtime stories when I visit. I suppose that was his way of connecting to me, you know, because he can't talk to me about Pokemon, or superheroes, or new toys. The distance between us was shortened only by those precious stories that he himself learned about when he was a kid, decades ago in a wildly different world. But, stories are timeless. And the one I am about to tell you stuck with me through the years, through schools, through heartbreaks, through this life I live.
This is the story about a farmer, his son, and their farm animals. The son had always wanted to be a musician, but being a farm boy was a huge hurdle to his lofty dream. However, one day, destiny beckoned as he found a lute discard behind by a wandering circus. With shaking hands, the son took up the lute and start to softly strum its shining strings. Under the shade of an apple tree in the farm, his started to play, with passion, with love. And to his surprise, a voice sang back from the barn. Bewildered, he opens the barn to find out that the family horse was singing with him. And in the far corner, the cow and the pig was eyeing him intelligently, humming along the rhythm of his song. Magic did exist, and it came upon this family.
Afterward, it was all but history. This band of singing animals and their master became an instant phenomenon throughout the kingdom. Even the king and his queen even paid the ramshackle farm a visit. There was music and applauds throughout the house day and night. Shortly after, the barn turns into a theater, decorated with the best of instruments and the most beautiful of songs. But this meteoric rise was not without its torrential downfall, as humans are wont to do, the son was blinded by fame and gold. His songs became more and more frenzied, as did his drunken stupor. And he started to abuse his animals. In his mind, it was his wonderful lute that brought the animals to singing and he deserved all of the glory.
But this change did not escape the horse, the animal that started it all. The horse remembered all the abuse the son did. And even with all the fame and wealth, the horse was still used as a working animal on the farm. During the day, it toiled under the burning sun, at night, under the blinding shine of the theater spotlight. As resentment built, it planned its revenge.
One night, the son was more drunk than usual but the ale was running low. So the horse asked the son if it can bring him downtown to get more. The son agreed. On the way, the horse shook the half conscious son off its back down the road. His head cracked on a rock and he bled out on that dark alley road, far away from the glistening light of the farm-theater.
But after having its revenge, the horse felt empty. And for the first time in its life, it yearns for the same liquid that drove its master insane. Tired and depressed, the horse stumbled into the town's tavern. The bartender greeted it and asked:
"Why the long face?"
i stg
Should I.... read all of that? 
I should because I'm a mod
Unless!
@tranquil bay content for your mind 
lol
im not reading that
all i needed to see was the last bit of it to know what it is lmao
now I feel like I should read it...
:( I poured my heart out and this is what I get
Do it 
Fox I appreciated it!
@proud flicker I promise, and this is a royal one, that I will read it after I finish dinner 
lol
Ahem! WE promise to read your manuscript as soon as WE finish eating 

WE read it all 
I killed chat. My bad.
More dead than my stand up comedy career.
that's because you sat down halfway through

Still recovering
that got me
this is the off topic section of the discord, if you want to discuss hades please go to one of the hades channels like #h1-discussion!
BogChamp
BogChamp indeed
Your story tho.. it was BogChamp, really touched me from the inside
Hi this is completely off topic and a strange request. But can someone DM me I want to figure out how deleting messages works
deleting messages in discord?
what are good games? (apart from hades obviously)
That seems like a very wide question, what do you like? 🙂
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