#transistor

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rancid rose
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Did anyone mess with the limiters?

noble portal
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A little bit, mainly for the achievement. But at least one or the limiters has some synergy with actual builds. The one that produces double Cells after a kill works nicely with Switch()’s passive of spawning friendly Badcells

wet cape
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I used some of them bc I dont want the game to be too easy

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and also bc xp bonus

calm jackal
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All limiter run really makes you FEEL like a transistor

signal nymph
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Haha

wet cape
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badum tss

wet cape
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is the transistor heavy or light? 🧐

signal nymph
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It seems heavy

wet cape
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I think its neither heavy not light

signal nymph
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All the anims like breach where red picks it up are slow

noble portal
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I don't think it necessarily has mass. It's big compared to Red so she probably expects it to be heavy, and so it behaves like it's heavy, other characters believe otherwise and it behaves differently for them

signal nymph
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Huh

wet cape
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thats a good point

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maybe its just uncomfortable to hold a huge sword like the transistor like a normal object

signal nymph
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It would again depend on the weight

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If it weighs nothing, then it would be like moving your arm, no deedback

noble portal
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it's certainly not balanced like a normal sword would be, even Royce props it on his shoulder to carry it

signal nymph
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So it could be that the transistor is like a shroedingers cat, both heavy and light, yet the one who percieves it, or holds it, forces it to be in a syate that they percieve it as

wet cape
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idk, I dont see why it would be heavy... just bc its big? but also, its not like holding a phone, right?

signal nymph
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I mean, it creates sparks along the ground when red walks with it

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And the breach animation shows her laboring to pick it up over her head

wet cape
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its the transistor! who knows what are the technological limits of it?

signal nymph
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I guess

wet cape
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well, for me she drags the sword on the ground bc its not really comfortable to hold it like a regular sword

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but thats just my headcanon

calm jackal
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If u put the transistor into a sheath then blue can't see :(

wet cape
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but again, I dont discard the possibility of it being HEAVY

wet cape
noble portal
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lol

calm jackal
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Royce is jacked headcanon

noble portal
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@blissful mountain re: your reply in #supergiant-games , I feel like that doesn't matter so much. It seems to me to be a matter of familiarity/perception. If it was still weightless while both of them were Out of Range, you'd think Red would clue in?

wet cape
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oh wait a second

noble portal
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I mean "Royce is jacked" is basically canon? someone drew out his proportions wrt his file portrait and he is very broad on top XD

wet cape
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||didnt unkown protect Red from the camerata attack? maybe if it was light it wouldnt make an impact strong enough to kill someone, right?||

calm jackal
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Well it doesn't like, kill people because of blunt force

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He didn't die of ribcage shattering

wet cape
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wait a seco- NO???

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I have been lied by my own eyes!

calm jackal
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Omg I just got a great mental image

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Grant spinning around with the sword in order to throw it completely straight like an Olympic hammer thrower

noble portal
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XD

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more of a hc but I imagine the Transistor's bladed bits as impossibly sharp, it doesn't take much force or contact to injure someone?

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That said mans had a whole sword through his body, weight vs velocity balances out I suppose

wet cape
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they sharp?

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ive been lied, again!

calm jackal
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Nah I've always thought transistor had a blunt end

wet cape
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doesnt look sharp at all to me

calm jackal
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That's why you can slam it on the ground a lot

wet cape
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oh wait-

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we went from "is it heavy" to "is it sharp"

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dragging the transistor on the ground makes it look heavy, that and also some attacks that consume a lot or your time

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but some other things makes it look light, like some arts

signal nymph
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It could also be that the trandistor physically changes when functions are used

noble portal
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it does change it's shape, maybe it adjusts its density too? 🤔

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it already breaks physics

signal nymph
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That would amke sense

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It might be based on the physics law where, an observer changes what they observe. When a function is used the soul that was absorbed to mske that function is brought forth, and the soul 'observes' the teansistor. This changes it to match what the soul thinks of the transistor and of itself, allowing for different souls to change the utility and physical attributes of the weapon.

wet cape
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so it will have a diff weight depending on the person?

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yeah I can see that

noble portal
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that actually.... kidna works

signal nymph
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Like royce, even if he is thicc, he can still hold the transitor at his shouldera ,because he percieves that the yransitor is an impossibly loght object

noble portal
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comapre how the Transistpr behaves between Void, Tap, and Flood. It's lightest in Flood, be heavy for Void and Tap. Maybe Asher and Grant saw it as heavier than Royce did

wet cape
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iirc when using Help() you literally spin the blade

signal nymph
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Or maybe, the transistor works off the subconsiounes of the absorbed people, and so asher and grant thought of the transitor not just physically heavierz but it was a larger weight in their mind then for asher

noble portal
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hmmm

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poor Asher

wet cape
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I'm not sure about the transistors weight, but its pretty interesting to me how the sword interacts with the current owners mind and thoughts

noble portal
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Sybil pretty provably never handled the Transistor so that still tracks 🤔

signal nymph
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She probably only saw royce use it, and as weve established, it is super light in his hands, so she thougjt it was super light, leading the help ability to teanssform the transitor into a super light object rhat can be spun with ease

wet cape
signal nymph
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Has anyone esle ever used the yransistor besides red and royce?

wet cape
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...probably??? how old is the transistor?

calm jackal
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Grant

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Definitely grant did, canonically

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No one was using the transistor until royce found it i think

signal nymph
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Oh ok

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Well it seems that grant in his later point in life had a gloomy disposition on his life

wet cape
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wiki says Royce "lent" the transistor to Grant

noble portal
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By the traces we see "Recorded", Grant and Asher have at least handled it, whether or not Asher used it on anyone is debatable, but he talks about their project with a great deal of solemnity, so I suspect he's taken at least one trace himself. (Probably Bailey Gilande, it we're really digging for clues?)

vocal ether
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What if the Transistor is a reflection of whoever is registered as the User? Red is grieving, weighed down by stress and the unknown of who's trying to kill her and revenge in making them pay. So the Transistor is heavy for her. Not because she thinks it should be, but because she is emotionally. And by the end she is lighter, and more at peace with the decision she's about to make.

Character design is key. The design of a character (including the props they use) should tell us about who they are, what they're feeling. I think how Red wields and drags and Transistor tells us this.

noble portal
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oho this is also a good take. Grant would see it as heavy bc it's the weight of his responsibility to improve Cloudbank. For Royce it's basically a big toy that makes his job easy

wet cape
noble portal
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yeah, that's what I meant

signal nymph
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What func is gilanide?

meager galleon
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Get()

noble portal
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Get(), she was the archivist

wet cape
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I dont think that the camerata ever tried to kill someone other than Red...

signal nymph
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They killed unknown

wet cape
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was supp to be Red, tho

signal nymph
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Yeah, he stepped in to save her right?

wet cape
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yup

noble portal
signal nymph
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His ability is breach, which ubfortunatly we dont know what hes like

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As his stuff is all messed up

meager galleon
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I mean they probably haven’t tried and failed before, but they definitely personally transistored a lot of the ppl

signal nymph
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Like get or charm

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Things like that

noble portal
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yeah that's what I meant, I think I misunderstood your previous statement then

wet cape
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sorry, my bad

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they did kill people, then...

signal nymph
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Its all good

noble portal
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oh, yeah. I doubt they ever "missed" before, that's why Sybil's bad info was so important

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"Yeah, no, she'll definitely be alone it's fine, no witnesses" 👀

signal nymph
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Could we think of sybils func help() as her final thoughts on red and hoping that dhe jelped her, immortalized forever as the function itself

noble portal
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aw 💔

wet cape
noble portal
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the thing was they could totally trust her, up until that point. It's really sad

signal nymph
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Im not in love orr anything and trying to save her nah

noble portal
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it's fine dw XD

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but fwiw, I really do like the idea that the Function being used affects how the User experiences the Transistor's presence/mass. That's awesome.

signal nymph
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Same! Brings a new light to the transistor.

wet cape
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indeed, indeed!

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hm... I should prob play more Transistor before trying to talk about my thoughts and theories 😅

signal nymph
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Its all good

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Ive barely played anymore, but im gonna go back in soon and beat the crap out of ||royce|| again

noble portal
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hehe

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chatted with my husband about our discussion here and his take was a little different: The Transistor doesn't (and shouldn't) have mass, its behaviour is derived from the will and intent of the User. It's sort of hard to articulate bc it's sort of "slightly left" of my idea about the User's perception, but like..., The Transistor is just a catalyst that helps the User affect the world around them, their intention for its use is reflected in the form it takes and how ii behaves.

It's heavy for Red bc her intention is revenge; it's heavy and brutal and violent, because that's how she intends to use it when she gets the chance to. For Royce, it splits up into its component parts, not unlike a blueprint; his intention is to use it like a tool or maybe a computer, he sees it in pieces bc that's his intent, to harness, dissect, and understand it.

The User doesn't change the Transistor, necessarily, but the Transistor changes the User and how they influence the world around them. Which is true to its namesake; a "transistor" is a gate that changes the circuit passing through it. His summary was that it's a timeless, ephemeral artifact that doesn't really belong in our reality, it does and behaves how it's willed to by the User.

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sorry for the wall of text I just wanted to get that out there (I love my hub he's so creative abt stuff like this 😊 )

inland mirage
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i just thought royce was more effortless in how he carries/uses the functions just because he had studied and used it extensively

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or maybe is secretly super strong lmao

noble portal
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additionally like, consider how the Transistor physically affects stuff, like the ground when dragging it or using big funcitons like Tap. It doesn't break the ground, or leave scrapes. It's barely a physical object in that sense

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I mean it could be any, all, or none of the things we've talked about, that's why it's so intersting to me XD

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thank you all for indulging me, I don't get to jam theories like this often gilmanlove

signal nymph
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Holy bejeebus. This take is amazing

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I love it so much, and it makes sense. Crash doesnt leave actually destruction o the ground

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Its more like the transistor is a virus, only affecting living things

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Can we ask a nod to pin that?

noble portal
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you guys got me all fired up to work on my fics XD

rancid rose
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The story is vague enough to have many theories

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Sidenote: I like the part where you go back to the stage and it’s all processed

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It starts playing an instrumental version of _n c_rcl_s

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Wish I could find the version on YouTube since the extended OST has the vocal one (which is a top fave of mine)

noble portal
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there's really something haunting about coming back to a full house but it's all the Process hanging around... waiting for you...

rancid rose
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They are just doing their job after all

vocal ether
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@rancid rose I listen on Spotify, has all the albums there. You could also buy the DLC on steam which gives you the albums.

rancid rose
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Yeah I listen to it on Spotify

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Was speaking of a very specific moment is all

wheat bobcat
woven spruce
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me and my friends were talking about transistor and how cloudbanks lack of actual conflict was why it was boring utopia

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and then one of us went "and then sybil was thirsty"

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which is technically true but ron

formal estuary
signal nymph
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Wait what func is that

woven spruce
signal nymph
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Oh

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I assume your joking

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||but yeah, the ending is pretty sad||

formal estuary
signal nymph
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Oh sorry

full peak
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"Spoilers are OK."

signal nymph
full peak
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I don't know why.

full peak
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maybe they just like the Hades color

signal nymph
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True

ember geode
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Silly question

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Who would win if Red fought Neo from The Matrix?

signal nymph
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I like it

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I would presume red, as the transitor is able to control the process, and i would assume if it was ina simulation like the matrix, it could control ti as well

blissful mountain
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But since the transistor is basically a computer, couldn’t neo break its code?

signal nymph
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HMMMMMM

formal estuary
inland mirage
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I mean there is the alternative answer of "neo has guns and red, albeit holding a magic usb sword, is just some woman"

signal nymph
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I love that its now a magic usb sword

ember geode
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Red can teleport
Red can basically stop time
Red can do all kinds of crazy things

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Neo can fly and he is amazing at martial arts

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He can also think a million miles an hour

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But none of that is gonna save him when Red uses Turn() and breaches him straight in the back

patent marsh
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red doesnt stop time while executing Turn()
shes just very fast, enemies can still move out of the way sometimes

formal estuary
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Red does Turn() actions or functions in a split of a second

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Neo could control Turn() itself, but not its functions

signal nymph
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She definitly dorsnt stop time as a badcell dodged out pf the way once in the kiddle of a turn then murdered me

ember geode
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Yeah sorry, she doesn't stop time

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She simply moves really really really fast

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Still, that's more than Neo can do

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Unless...

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If Neo were somehow able to anticipate her Turn()s, he could potentially outmaneuver her

noble portal
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is there any official art of Royce or the other Camerata members with the Transistor that isn;t a sprite rip/screen shot? Like promo images or released concepts?

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I guess I should go dig through that Making-Of video

rancid rose
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Tbf that is an accurate description for the transistor

rancid rose
little pagoda
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Things i saw once and has been craving more of since: fanart of the camerata hanging out and asher's cat cuddling w royce

noble portal
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oh same, I want more everyday Camerata stuff in my life, especially if it involves the kitty

cunning plaza
formal estuary
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I bet that pyre color fits better

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cuz the pyre color is around the whole image

noble portal
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man it is such a joy to write dialogue for Royce

severe linden
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is there any way to get one's hands on a red vinyl figure anymore

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👀

full peak
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Sorry Peach, that's not a pride flag, it's Asphodel in the background. Hang on.

rancid rose
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I can draw, but never really drawn transistor fan art since I kinda wanna emulate the style and well

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Still practicing lol

formal estuary
rancid rose
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Sure

wheat bobcat
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Would people in Transistor say "You son of a glitch" instead of the actual curse word?
We may never know

noble portal
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  • Thinks of how characters used “BSoD” instead of “damn” in Primordia *
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these games are inextricably linked for me bc Logan also voices the protag of Primordia 💙

white solar
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A realization I found interesting about Transistor compared to others in the cyberpunk genre is that, while most cyberpunk mediums tend to focus on the themes of power resting only in the hands of the few elite, with the citizens of lower socio-economic status fighting against those at the top (usually in some social commentary about extreme capitalism etc),

Transistor kind of turns this around on its head and asks, 'what would hypothetically be the problem if power rested completely in the hands of the many, and if they could choose to change society at a whim?' (seeing as Cloudbank was manipulated by the majority votes on the OVC). The Camerata then are not the elite few who many people fight against wanting change, but instead are the few who want to instigate change against the many since they believed that allowing too much power in voting leads to stagnancy and indolence (and they did so by using the elites of cloudbank as instruments).

I'm not sure if this was intentional by Supergiant Games, but i thought it was interesting to think about.

formal estuary
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woaah

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never thought about it this way,,,,

delicate arrow
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if you ever need a smile In These Times, just remember Boxer grousing about his favorite pizza joint closing while the apocalypse is happening all around him

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can you imagine his hot takes for 2020 if he existed and was on Twitter or something in our own universe?

white solar
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now I want to see Red and Boxer tweeting random stuff

formal estuary
delicate arrow
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if it didn't strike way too close to home, I'd be really tempted to write our-world AU fic with Boxer and Red bubbled together in her tiny apartment for most of 2020

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but the parallels kinda pile up too fast and too distressingly

formal estuary
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Or ||In the country||

formal estuary
delicate arrow
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they would be one of those disgustingly functional and mutually supportive quaranteams, and he would post an endless stream of pictures to Instagram of her working on her next album, awash in cozy morning sunlight and sipping coffee in her pajamas at a kitchen table piled with clutter

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they'd be very popular with her online fanbase

formal estuary
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Surely an interesting Idea

delicate arrow
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||(when she needs to cry about all the venues being closed indefinitely and her boredom-induced creative block and how desperately she misses performing and the way it feels sometimes like the world is falling apart all around her, he makes sure she can cry into his shoulder, in absolute privacy, and never tells a soul)||

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^^^ like I said. a little too close to home, just now.

formal estuary
delicate arrow
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Mm-hmm. 😰

formal estuary
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Now that I think about it too much, It hits me and my friends way too hard.
Imagine it's last year in school , and you may never see your friends IRL or even have a Grad party.

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(thats what I'm going thru)

delicate arrow
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yeah, I'm not even sure I'd want to write it

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it's just strangely comforting to imagine these familiar characters going through this crummy year with us, somehow

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(maybe because their own world's Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day was somehow even worse than anything we've got going on)

formal estuary
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||Their world was under the process of being erased|| , maybe that's why.

delicate arrow
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ha, yeah

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still, I'm really sorry about your senior year. that completely blows.

formal estuary
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Thanks ❤️

delicate arrow
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(I have no idea if it would help to hear from An Olde that, in retrospect, the best times from my senior year were the random things I got up to with my friends, not the officially scheduled stuff like prom and the graduation party, which were honestly both kind of a letdown)

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(but I hope you still find ways to create your own moments of joy with the people who matter to you, even if it has to happen at a distance)

formal estuary
delicate arrow
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that's seriously awesome, good for you! 👍

formal estuary
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Thanks!
I've thought about what I've done in the last 3 years vs what I'm doing now
In the past I went to try out new things

This year was special, because this year I've done a lot of catching up to the masterpieces (or great) games and shows.

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Someone just gave me his steam account and said "Here, do a lot of catching up to my games"

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and the other just gave me one amazing masterpiece of a show.

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And then I stumble upon this tweet that have a link to "Paper Boats" and I'm instantly attached to the game

delicate arrow
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Oh man

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Can I recommend the classic Final Fantasy games? (Not the first couple, I tried slogging through them once and they haven't aged well, but like...the handheld remakes of IV or VI? Or IX is on Steam these days)

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(I'm just old enough to have some nostalgic memories of watching my brothers playing IX when it came out, ha)

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(they wouldn't give me a turn with the controller and renamed all the characters weird things, but the story still got me right in the heartstrings)

formal estuary
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I played bit of FF6, I loved both the fight and the bosses theme, was stuck at one of the early bosses.

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My expertise in RPG (both action and turn-based) has been kept to bare minimum.
I've played just a bit of ARPGs like Witcher 3 , and currently exploring Dark souls series

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and I haven't had interest in TBRPGs since FF6

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But how did I like this game you might ask?** the art style and soundtracks ** is what kept me playing it a lot and recommending it to my friends

flat quest
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so when are we getting a transistor sequel

formal estuary
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give me a dlc , like a prequel to all of that, and I'm done

short cobalt
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3.5 years later, I have returned and finished performance test 7

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with the power of Get (Bounce, Switch)

short cobalt
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This game is a lot better when you’re older

full peak
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I literally had that thought the other day. Especially when we consider the current ethical discourse over uploading one's consciousness to a digital landscape. That's at least what I think about the most.

cunning plaza
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I laughed way too hard at this bowserlaugh
Tagging @full peak because yes blobheart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSeGf0DN59M

I took a glance at Transistor and I decided to compile some of my brief thoughts on it.

Transistor is a game about a silent singing lady and her relationship with a sword in a world where artistic ability is actually really frickin' important. And then people with art ability and technical ability decide "hey, let's make things even cooler", ...

▶ Play video
formal estuary
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This reminds me of Caddicarus and Nakey Jakey combined

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It's hilarious too

fallen wave
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Awkward conversation with a five year old who loves SGG soundtracks:

Kid: What’s that game?
Me: It’s “Transistor”. It has the beeping music you like.
Kid: Who’s the girl?
Me: Her name is Red.
Kid: What’s that sword thing?
Me: It’s a surprise. You have to play yourself to find out.
Kid: I can I play the game?
Me: Oh, sure... not “Hades” but “Transistor” is fine hang on the beginning wait no, no, don’t click that!

full peak
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jakey and caddy are two of my favorite yters

noble portal
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lol Blue... oops XD

fallen wave
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I’m looking forward to him being big enough to play. He’s seen me play some of all the games; just gotta be quick on the pause sometimes.

full peak
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Look, just don't let them play the very ending.

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Pretend the game fades out after ||beating Royce.||

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That was pretty good, @cunning plaza

fallen wave
full peak
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I actually really liked the ending, but I'm also just a bit of a weirdo.

cunning plaza
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Aw, look at you adding spoiler tags @full peak That's so thoughtful of you PeachLovely

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Is it weird to like the ending? thanthink

full peak
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Should I still spoil?

cunning plaza
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I loved it so I'm a super weirdo. Woo!

fallen wave
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I enjoyed the ending too. It was very ||Cowboy Bebop|| for me. I just sat there and listened to the end song going “wow”. Good times 😁

full peak
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'Cause I know I've got "weird" thoughts on the subject, but what Red does is preeeeetty tabboo.

cunning plaza
fallen wave
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As one of my video game boyfriends would say, the ending was thematically correct.

full peak
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Okay, ||so I'm really big on self-actualization. A sentient/sapient being able to fulfill themselves and their wants and desires is the only true moral, as far as I'm concerned.||

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||So while I understand just how sensitive suicide is IRL, the ideal of being able to openly approach that subject and discuss someone's thoughts and feelings and validating them without committing them to a hospital, nullifying their ability to self-actualize, is important.||

fallen wave
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In my mind, ||Red became transhuman. Whether what she did involved death is a tricky question.||

full peak
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||If I were to speak to my parents very candidly on how I feel about being alive and they committed me, removing my ability to self-actualize, would be the worst thing they could ever do to me.||

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||So as sad as Red killing herself was, she did what she wanted, what she thought was best for herself and her situation.||

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||Also she was practically at the end of the world. Some people (like Royce) may have gaped at Red abandoning the opportunity to effectively create a new world, but asking one person to fill in all of those gaps is a huge ask, one that I wouldn't and couldn't ask someone who wasn't looking for it.||

fallen wave
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||Red didn’t want to be a god. Maybe for her, letting the world end peacefully was a better option.||

full peak
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||Maybe Cloudbank lived on! Even as an abandoned city.||

fallen wave
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||Could be. There’s lots of little code bits running around. Who knows what they spawned?||

full peak
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||But she recognized that world wasn't for her. And that she had the option and capacity to leave Cloudbank for the Country is everything to me.||

cunning plaza
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|| Sequel idea: someone finds Red and the Transistor after the deed was done, then re-shapes Cloudbank. ||

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And so, Peach ends the spoiler tag wars unintentionally ablobuwu

vocal ether
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Hey. So. speaking from my own perspective, maybe this should move to DMs. There are other people in this server dealing with suicidal ideation and there's no trigger warnings and what's being discussed is not helpful.

fallen wave
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Sure, sorry about that!

noble portal
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Medium-brain take: Primordia is the spiritual sequel to Transistor, despite being released first XD

devout ledge
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Hey @vocal ether you're absolutely right. While the content itself should still be available to be discussed as a part of the game, mods are going to start having folks provide a CW so it becomes common knowledge, and I'm adding it into the description here currently.

little pagoda
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Also perhaps when discussing the Kendrells' end because the game's ending is not the only part that should have that content warning

twin summit
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We're gonna try to start putting indicators in front of all of our spoilers, so that type of content should be included! Like maybe:

"etcetera (kendrells' fate) ||spoiler|| etcetera"

Or something similar should be fine!

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And there's nothing stopping you from putting a more detailed warning, similar to the examples in the description, if you feel the need to.

junior lagoon
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...I see I should probably not scroll up right now, since I'm about to start playing for the first time

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:3

shrewd root
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As long as you don't reveal any spoiler tags you're probably safe squirtdevious

junior lagoon
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aight

shrewd root
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But it never hurts to play it safe, too!

violet cobalt
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Anyone knows how i can make transitor works on a 4k monitor? I just bought the game on epic games and I didn’t see that the max resolution is 1080p

junior lagoon
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There are some launch options for Hades that may also work for Transistor?

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/x=1920 /y=1080
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formal estuary
junior lagoon
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Supergiant uses / , at least for Hades

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So I imagine they would've used the same thing before

formal estuary
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How's the game so far?

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going back from hades is surely going to be a bit rough

junior lagoon
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nah, not really. definitely a different gameplay style than I'm used to, but quality-wise seems solid

formal estuary
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you may know this already but, try to backstab when possible

junior lagoon
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yup, recently figured that out

formal estuary
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and Crash() before Breach()

junior lagoon
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currently not using crash, actually

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using Help() + Crash()

formal estuary
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that's also good
perfect for grouped up enemies

junior lagoon
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let's see...(the actual action first, right?)
Bounce() + Spark(), Breach() + Ping(), Help() + Crash(), and Jaunt()

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I also was using the double cell limiter + Switch() passive before picking up Ping()

formal estuary
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Switch() definitely works out as passive

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you can use Jaunt()+spark() to make it work similar to OW Genji's Dash ability

junior lagoon
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only peripherally aware of what that means but I think I get your drift

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I also have Load(), but it doesn't seem particularly useful atm

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seems to instantly explode while in Turn(), which could be good

formal estuary
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you put it infront of an enemy and breach() / crash() it to explode

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particularly useful in big fights or boss fights

junior lagoon
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ooh, aight

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I'm liking this "backdoor" area

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lmaoooo got a nullref crash

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eh, 3 hours is probably a good point to call it a night anyway

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Thanks for the tips, nx, cya!

formal estuary
junior lagoon
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So far I haven't gotten stuck at anything, though I have no idea how the death mechanic works lol

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Since apparently I die, then I go into extra time, then I get another extra time, then I lose an ability and get my health back?

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It's only happened once, so maybe that was just that fight?

formal estuary
formal estuary
trail acorn
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I am this close to getting transistor on EGS rn

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1.79 is a steal

junior lagoon
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Having just played it for 3 hours straight

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I like it

trail acorn
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I'll sleep on it for now - sale lasts till 12th anyway

junior lagoon
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It's slower paced than Hades, definitely more adventure, but that doesn't mean the action isn't good

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And fair enough!

blissful mountain
white solar
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personally in the early-mid game I always thought Jaunt() + Load() was broken

blissful mountain
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Highly recommend load in the passive slot with either void+get or tap+get

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Flood+get also works well

formal estuary
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I love it as an active slot alongside purge and bounce

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I use void get so the packets are closer to the enemies

blissful mountain
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Void(get, crash) is my bread and butter for most of the midgame

white solar
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since there's nothing any of them can do to you when you spam that

earnest basalt
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Just started playing and finished Transistor!

white solar
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Great, how did you like it? heyred 👍

earnest basalt
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Difficult, thrilling and tactical. Loved it!

formal estuary
junior lagoon
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...oh

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(ending) || gonna level with ya, did not see that coming. Absolutely makes sense though. Went up and read those spoiler tags from a couple days ago. ||

|| still absolutely heart-wrenching though ||

formal estuary
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I'll always find you, I'll alwayyyyyys

junior lagoon
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|| now to do it all over again, but harder ||

formal estuary
junior lagoon
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|| oh I'm sure, I'll see it momentarily. I don't think I'm getting much sleep tonight lmao ||

formal estuary
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For sure!

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also, to whoever put the :red: emote, can you give me the server that It was from?

junior lagoon
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either @ Boredor or @ wightfyre

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both seem to be offline tho

formal estuary
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I'm just going to patiently wait

junior lagoon
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|| lmao what "suggested move" all of the moves ||

hexed depot
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||do not forget that red finally speaks to the man in the transistor. "Hey.." "Hey!" cue the ending song||

junior lagoon
formal estuary
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never tried the practice tool so I'm gonna say that's op

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and also you have void so that's extra op

junior lagoon
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xD

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gonna try and beat it

signal nymph
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Thats so much damage

junior lagoon
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so uhhh

signal nymph
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NOOOOO

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My best is like 1k

formal estuary
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ok thats too much

junior lagoon
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lmao

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it's pretty straight-forward lol

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wait

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I think I can get it higher

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I didn't realize that || picking up an upgrade an extra time during recursion actually gave it to you a second time ||

formal estuary
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I see, preferring maximum damage > mobility.

junior lagoon
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this isn't a setup I would necessarily use in actual combat

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I would probably drop Get(), and swap it out for Jaunt()

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and just group up enemies the old-fashioned way

formal estuary
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I do void +get

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jaunt is very cool

junior lagoon
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problem is, these dudes don't have enough health for me to properly wail on them

signal nymph
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||I thoyght that was the main point of recursion, that you get evrything twice, then trhie, then 4, then 5, etc, meaning after 16 loops you could do a run with only 1 weapon in every slot||

junior lagoon
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|| probably, this is my first recursion lol ||

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also, is there a maximum number of targets Breach() can go through?

formal estuary
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I don't think so

junior lagoon
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huh

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feels like there is

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with the maximum number of Load(), + 5 enemies, the last 2 don't get hit

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and I'm pretty sure my aim isn't off

blissful mountain
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You only get the functions twice

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They’re tied to level, not recursion loops, and the level cap is 30

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After you beat the game the first time it becomes trivial to kill enemies quickly, so imo better to focus on not dying

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The core of my setup is void(get, crash), void(purge, tap), mask equipped on the other two active slots with whatever you prefer, and load passive

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Makes everything in the game pretty easy

junior lagoon
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Thoughts on the damage I got in that screenshot?

blissful mountain
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It’s cool

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In the main game completely unnecessary but fun to go for those records

noble portal
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And that flavour text. If you overkill enough the UI starts getting sassy

formal estuary
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never really overkilled a lot

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but I saw one clip of someone overkilling a lot that the ui text begs for mercy on these soulless cells

little pagoda
noble portal
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Yeah there are a few levels of it too. Even after a bunch of playthroughs you can still find new stuff in this game

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My favourite accidental discovery was that if you go into the test room (just the freestyle one) and spam a function a couple times, Boxer will comment on it. He has a unique quip for each one iirc

white solar
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that's awesome, I'll try that out

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I remember I managed to get 100k+ damage on the sandbox but I can't seem to find the screenshot

signal nymph
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THE FUCK

formal estuary
white solar
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i may be misremembering, it might not have been that high lol

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but it was definitely high

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I wish transistor had an option where you could instantly go to the sandbox

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managed to get this much, i dunno if i can go higher

signal nymph
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Wow

white solar
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yeah 54,000 is the highest i can go lol, if someone manages to get higher than that ill be impressed

signal nymph
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Thats insane

junior lagoon
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Damn, and I thought I was doing high damage

earnest basalt
formal estuary
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||My default wallpaper has been the credits scene where an impaled red and boxer being close to each other.||
Whenever my friends ask “why is that your wallpaper” I tell them “play the game”.

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And once they play it, they get the meaning behind my pfp and my wallpaper.

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(Since I think this was lost amongst the other messages) Here I am once again asking for the :red: emote

To whoever has the emote, dm it’s sever to me and I’ll so thankful for it!

still zealot
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My bg is the cloudbank art SGG posted in their downloadable art

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the uhh, postage art I think it's called? Cause it's supposed to look like something you'd put on a letter to capture the feel of the place?

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yeah

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that ^

shrewd root
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Unrelated, after much delay I am finally going to get back to my Transistor playthrough. I'll be honest though I have no idea where I was or what I was doing... Considering just restarting, if I can

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Maybe I'll try to just continue, though thanthink

signal nymph
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Its short enough that its simple to get back in imo

shrewd root
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Fair

signal nymph
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Have you beat the game before?

shrewd root
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Nope! I started a playthrough a few years ago and then got busy and didn't get back to it

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I currently have 8 functions and am level 5 I think

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And 2 limiters unlocked

signal nymph
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Oh, nice. Its easy to pick back up really anytime, but especially the beginning

stone shoal
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could probably delete your save file from wherever transitor stores save data

signal nymph
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Its in Documents/Saved Games/Transistor

stone shoal
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that's not always the case Sandra

signal nymph
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Oh, oops

shrewd root
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Feel like I'm playing very poorly because I seem to overload once a fight shadesweat

signal nymph
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After a while you get the hang of things, and it gets easier

stone shoal
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Wight, I was much the same for a good chunk of my first playthrough

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You'll definitely get the hang of things bittie3

signal nymph
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Anyone agree the ladys at ||3.0|| are harder then ||royce himself||

shrewd root
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Thank you for your encouragement friendly

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I am currently just swapping functions around to unlock all the entries. I don't remember if this actually does anything, but I like to be complete

signal nymph
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Nice. The lore in the game is sick

heavy finch
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heyred why are here in this server so few transistor emotes transistor

hexed depot
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Anyone agree the ladys at ||3.0|| are harder then ||royce himself||
yEs, my god.

earnest basalt
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Aeugh

formal estuary
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this was very unexpected, but you can actually unlock Paperboats by completing performance test 3, and hear boxer saying "Might be the favorite"..

So good!

white solar
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wait really?

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oh wait, you finish performance test 3 in recursion right

formal estuary
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yep

formal estuary
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the mask is to evade and making turn get faster, without being turn'd by the copy

white solar
white solar
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that sucks them in and keeps them in the flood field right?

formal estuary
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in void*

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yeah

white solar
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wait nvm i just remembered that's not how Void+flood works, unfortunately

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would be cool if it created a damaging field in the area where you void

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It's good against groups of enemies though

signal nymph
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How does void flood work?

formal estuary
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I.. quite honestly dont know

signal nymph
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Void(flood) deals damage in an area

formal estuary
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thats making it AoE + the grab from Get

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and pushing load to it making it damage a ton

white solar
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That's what i thought it would be, cause I remember i tried making a black hole damaging thing

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but what Void+flood actually does is it creates a disruptive field around the targets caught in the void, so it doesn't damage the enemy, it damages the enemies around the enemies, if that makes sense

formal estuary
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CW: ending, ||goddamit, despite how many times i've seen the ending, it still going to make me Tear() up.||

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Darren's OSTs from the start to the end is so good, never took time to actually listen to them

shrewd root
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If you're going to add a cw tag (which is appreciated!) then please also indicate what the cw pertains to shadesmile

formal estuary
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got it!

formal estuary
crimson haven
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enemy spoiler(?) ||All these Man are giving me a hard time with their haircut things aaaa||

junior lagoon
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|| maybe you need better scissors ||

crimson haven
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story spoilers dbqjdhej ||i beat them but the cost of it was that someone slapped onions on my eyes ;A; the credits aaaaa and transistor bro being like "What are you doing ebjwjee"||

formal estuary
crimson haven
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bahahaha

formal estuary
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and I'm yet to discover more of Darren's OSTs

signal nymph
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Its good, but i think Pyre had the best soundtrack of their (and most) games

formal estuary
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I've seen Pyre, it has that beautiful MOBA style gameplay, and also that very stellar artstyle

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Jen zee never disappoints me in terms of art styles

signal nymph
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Its definitly not a moba, but yeah i get what you mean, its fluid

formal estuary
shrewd root
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Just finishing beating the Spine and then got the private message and it's ThanatosAsher squirtheh

noble portal
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such a nice gentle voice

crimson haven
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so it WAS his voice

noble portal
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that's Greg iirc? He also voiced Hedwyn if I'm braining correctly

shrewd root
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No, It's Chris Saphire

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But he did also voice Hedwyn, yes

noble portal
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oh, I am mistken then

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halfway right XD

shrewd root
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Greg has voiced Hypnos, Sir Deluge, and Oralech

outer garden
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I know that hades is a game that supergiant poured there heart and soul into, and it’s one of the most incredible games that I’ve played, still playing, but there was definitely something about transistor that just hit something different, and people don’t talk about how genius the writing of the game is

shrewd root
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It's certainly nowhere near as popular as Hades, but I think Transistor was definitely recognized for it's writing in its time

outer garden
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I guess I’m more just sad that such a unique game wasn’t as talked about, it’s pretty groundbreaking

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Although, supergiant themselves are a really unique studio, and I know that’s generally acknowledged, so

shrewd root
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Seems like a lot of people are playing their older games again (or for the first time) in the wake of Hades' success, so that's always a plus!

outer garden
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That’s where I’m going, I’m trying out pure and bastion as soon as I find time

signal nymph
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Would highly recommen pyre

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the story is god, and theris an awesome community around it

grizzled bay
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just finished this game, wow the end man.

signal nymph
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Yeah

ember geode
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Here is my theory about what happens in Transistor
It's all very vague, this is just my interpretation

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||Basically, Cloudbank is a computer simulation, kind of like the Oasis from Ready Player One||
||I say the Oasis rather than the Matrix because it's voluntary, and people go there for recreation||
||Judging by the nature of Cloudbank, I suspect that these people spend most of their time there, jacking out to the real world only when it's absolutely necessary||

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||The Transistor is probably an admin control of some kind; the only reason nobody knows what it is is that Cloudbank has existed for so long that people have forgotten about its administrative functions||
||Same with the Process; the Process are probably meant to be an antivirus or cleanup software of some kind, that went beserk after the Camerata tried to use them for stuff they were never designed for||

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||It's possible to jack out of the mainframe to the real world, or the Country, but people don't want to do that because they have been jacked in for so long||

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||But if you get processed, your cyber consciousness gets absorbed into the Transistor or deleted outright, and your body in the real world goes braindead||
||Everyone who we see get processed in game has real-world bodies, but they're all vegetables now||
||Red, one of the people who wanted change, ironically made the decision to stay in the mainframe and entered the Transistor so she could be with Mr. Nobody||

outer garden
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||That’s a good theory, except we see red and the transistor guy “in the country” at the end||

ember geode
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||Red is the administrator||

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||She probably manipulated the inside of the Transistor||

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||IDK, I don't think that Red is actually in the same "country" that everyone else is in||

signal nymph
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I like it, but how come you can use the transtor in the final fight. Isnt that ||in the country|| if it is, then it shouldnt be usable as its justa manifestation of admin powers

outer garden
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I know

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I messed that up

junior lagoon
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You can edit your message to fix it

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Thanks friendly

rose plover
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this game is so great

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omg!

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currently on LVL 5 😄

signal nymph
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Agreed

rose plover
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like im seriously hooked.

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i want to keep playing but i need to rest lol.

junior lagoon
rose plover
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anyway i just wanted to share my thoughts. im just fangirling by for now LOL

signal nymph
noble portal
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I don't think it does but it's more of a hunch tbf

junior lagoon
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|| Royce talks about "getting out" and that he'd been there before, and previously mentioned having been in the Transistor before ||

ember geode
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||Royce and Red are both alive, and they are both high-level users||
||Cloudbank ain't big enough for the both of them||

noble portal
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but he describes ||the interior as if it's empty, "like staring at the sky" but we can see there's stuff in the "Out of Range" space||. I think where you end up for the final fight is a sort of "waiting room"/staging area inside the Cradle itself, a step between Cloudbank and the inside of theTransistor

signal nymph
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So .... code purgatory?

noble portal
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yeah, sort of

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I wrote a blog sort of related to this, about what (end, character spoielrs) ||Royce does for the Camerata and why he's so experienced with the weird duel setup. In short; his job is to fight Traces in the Cradle to keep them from escaping so the Camerata can keep control of the device. He's done it so many times it's a bit of a routine by the time Red shows up.||

noble portal
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which would mean the Cradle itself is a sort of safety measure. Now whether it exists as a native part of Cloudbank's network and interface, or is something the Camerata designed and built, is debatable if we assume that

signal nymph
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||So its effectivly a firewall to prevent the traces from escaping their banks? Makes sense||

noble portal
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what exactly would happen if they do is left as an exercise to the theorycrafter. My money's on a freaky body-swap phenomenon but I have nothing to back that up XD

ember geode
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I heard a theory the other day as to part of Mr. Nobody's identity

white solar
# ember geode ||IDK, I don't think that Red is actually in the same "country" that everyone el...

I was just recently thinking about the nature of The Country and I think this might be the interpretation that makes the most sense. || It could be theorized that since Cloudbank exists in a simulation, The Country for everyone else is like a metaphor for logging out of it, like Lillian Platt did (and so did many others), but that wouldn't make sense for Red and Boxer since Boxer was stuck inside the Transistor and not "logged out" per se, so I think it is Red manipulating the inside of the Transistor to look like that||

ember geode
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If anyone wants to hear that

signal nymph
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I would imagine that if a trace broke free, it would be a sort of virus, a ghost torally undectable, with high level powers like the transistor and its user, and it would also destroy the function in the transistor until the trace is re absorbed

noble portal
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oho, that'd be spooky, maybe they break out into the city's network like an AI, an entity totally separate from the Process but still within the city's systems

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I'm curioys to hear what you think about Boxer, Truepickaxe

ember geode
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Boxer?

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What is that?

noble portal
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Mr.Nobody, sorry

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the man has many names, none of which are his own XD

signal nymph
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I could also see that an escaped trace would be able to have control over the process, or have its own version of the process that it could create and control

ember geode
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So here is the theory I heard

noble portal
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erumi I'm liking this a lot and want to do somehting with it

ember geode
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Basically, Mr. Nobody is Red's bodyguard

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She's a singer after all, and most celebrities have bodyguards of one kind or another

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That's why he was so close when Red was attacked by the Camerata

white solar
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What makes the Traces different in nature from Boxer is what I've always wondered. Boxer is clearly apparent inside the Transistor , but all the other traces arent

white solar
white solar
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wait I did, nvm discord is being weird

junior lagoon
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Boxer was directly absorbed by the Transistor, his trace data partially corrupted, which is why he's different

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Is my thought

signal nymph
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I like to think its because he and red were very close, and he died a very short while after red became the user, allowing his consiouness to only have been transfered to a trace bank, meaning he kept part of it, and effectivly lived in the transistor

noble portal
ember geode
noble portal
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it's pretty widely accepted fanon, basically canon

ember geode
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Got it

signal nymph
noble portal
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literally why he got in the way, he was doing his job 😛

noble portal
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true true

white solar
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If I recall, dialogue implies he went to her shows

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and got close somehow

ember geode
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I can just imagine him being like "Lock this place down NOW, someone is tryna kill Red"

noble portal
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their actual history is unclear, which I kind of like, but it's apparent his intention and probably job is to protect her

ember geode
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"Judas, get her to the car out back, don't let anyone see you, I'll take care of this myself"

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(Judas is just a name I made up, some other security guard or something)

noble portal
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and there's very very likely some romantic history there, given some of the stills from the credits, and the way he speaks to/about her

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unsubstantiated personal theory but I like to think Mr. Nobody was the guy who rioted at one of Red's shows (mentioned in her Trace entry), and they since reconciled as he got to know her better and became close

ember geode
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This is gonna sound weird
But the only weapon we see in the game is the Transistor
I wonder what the "normal" Cloudbank weapons look like

white solar
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I would assume so, given they ||kiss in one of the end credit stills after all|| haha

signal nymph
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Well im going to slerp, so see yall later. If theres anything extra special ping me

junior lagoon
outer garden
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||What’s always going to be interesting is how boxer gets to the farm, because red obviously kills herself with the transistor, and all the other characters have something that can be considered “death”, but boxer is in a weird in between, so there’s something about red killing herself that sets him free||

white solar
noble portal
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spoilers, Kermit

outer garden
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Consider that there is suicide

junior lagoon
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Please

noble portal
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please spoiler the end details and Red's choice Edit: Thanks

white solar
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or whatever that detective guy's name is

signal nymph
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Also, i wpuld imagine a normal cloudbank weapon would be like mechanical mortars and mostly robots, as i always thought that the process was kust cirruption of cloudbank

junior lagoon
noble portal
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I'd imagine there's not alot of violent crime in Cloudbank, police likely have light firearms at most, I get the vibe it's a pretty peaceful place

white solar
noble portal
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pew pew pew

outer garden
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|| i should say that when I say death, I don’t necessarily mean full “death” but the implied death of whatever happens to people in cloud bank, I’m obviously not trying to talk about sensitive subjects, but there is a lot of implication that people “die” and can no longer access cloudbank”||

ember geode
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If you get processed, you die in real life

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That's what I assumed

noble portal
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assuming Cloudbank is simulated, which a lot of people do

outer garden
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I don’t think so, I believe you simply can’t exist in cloudbank anymore

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Because we definitely see red get processed, and she is “alive” and well with boxer in the end scene

noble portal
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imho it's more itneresting to assume it is in "reality" (which is already relative), but my strongest opinion on the matter is that the exact nature of Cloudbank is irrelevant; it doesn't affect the storytelling to me, so it' doesn't really matter.

white solar
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yeah I'm of the opinion that the theory that Cloudbank is only a simulation is kinda lame,

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but perhaps it can be a simulation that exists in reality

junior lagoon
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I'm less certain that Cloudbank (and the rest of the world, because I believe Fairview is a different city) is a simulation—it's certainly possible that there're things I'm missing, but I think it's just as possible that it's in a real world

ember geode
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The Process is a reset mechanism
Their job is to reset everything back to zero
An unfortunate consequence of this is that if they get ahold of any neural data, they will purge it just like any other data
Meaning that if you are jacked into Cloudbank and the Process catch you, your brain signals are effectively erased

outer garden
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I think that the implication is that the country is designed to be some kind of afterlife, it isn’t the “real world” just another place for people to exist after they cease to exist in cloudbank

white solar
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Yeah who says there can't be different worlds

outer garden
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I think that they exist as separate things, but it’s not as cut and dry as a simulation

earnest basalt
ember geode
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I believe the Country, as referred to by the news, is a place where everyone agreed to go in case of trouble (get it?)

twin summit
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just so people don't stumble into something that they might not want to see

white solar
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with the motorcycle

noble portal
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I don't think so. He specifically said "get out of town", I think he did want to leave for somewhere else, be it the COuntry or otherwise. Fairview is identified by the Turn UI as a "suburb" of Cloudbank

ember geode
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Proper story's supposed to start at the beginning. Ain't so simple with this one.
Now, here's a girl who's world got all twisted, leaving her stranded in a patch of absolute nothingness.
She gets up, and sets off for the Country, where everyone agreed to go in case of trouble.

noble portal
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imagine all the bougie jerks who lived on Fairview though, big fancy manor houses on their own island XD

outer garden
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||the biggest thing for me is that we have no idea what happened to all of cloudbank. Red was the only person left, and she was literally recreating cloudbank in the final stage of the game. So it’s possible that she recreated the entire world. It’s also implied that cloudbank is the only place that people exist, there’s no mention of any other place but the city, so when boxer says get out of town, he might mean literally leave the reality||

white solar
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maybe Fairview was unaffected by the process this whole time

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and they were just watching everything unfold

ember geode
noble portal
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I'm just being sassy 😛

earnest basalt
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Transistor mod that converts the entire game into Bastion elements
Jerks are now Bulls

white solar
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Boxer's voice becomes Rucks

noble portal
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it's true there's no real mention of what otehr settlements exist outside Cloudbank (notably, even the Fashion Week announcement only mentions "domestic brands", no international designers)

white solar
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country drawl Hey Red, we ain't getting away with this are we?

noble portal
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leaving Cloudbank is a pretty serious move then, since we don't know of anyone who's ever left and come back

outer garden
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||I think that there’s some truth to cloudbank being somewhat simulated, I mean we literally see portals, we see a grid across the sky on the beach, we see the world literally dissolve into code and be recreated by red, but I don’t know if just calling it a simulation is giving the story justice||

earnest basalt
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Pfheh, Crash and Breach are the Hammer and Bow respectively.

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Hm, would it make more sense for Breach to be the Carbine, actually...?

white solar
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unless her leaving was only rumors

outer garden
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She might have died while leaving

earnest basalt
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Hm, I need to look up her file in the game...

white solar
noble portal
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My current idea about it all is that Cloudbank exists in "normal" reality, but is relatively cut off from the rest of the world due to the city's network being built on the chassis/"layer" of the Process. The city exists in a kind of bubble, protected by the Process. The world goes on around it, but nobody goes in, and the people who leave can't return.

white solar
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I mean, we're starting to have holograms and Virtual spaces in reality, so who's to say it's not possible in the far future that they could create an entire virtual, physical city that exists in reality

ember geode
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One common interpretation is that Cloudbank is a computer system, and all the inhabitants are computer programs

noble portal
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IMO: Cloudbank is insular and self-sustaining because the Process has total control over that little bubble of reality; resources never run out, people never get sick (seriously, devs confirmed physical illnesses do not exist in Cloudbank), and everything up to and including the weather is under the control of voters

white solar
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Yeah, a bubble city would make sense

ember geode
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But it's weird, because where exactly would the Cloudbank programs be evacuating to?

white solar
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it's sort of like Elysium

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I mean you don't really see any destitute areas, it would stand to reason that all cloudbank citizens are well off

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Ok I like this theory much better

noble portal
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The Country as a literal countryside exists, because there's no other development directly outside Cloudbank's bubble (eg. no suburbs of one city bleeding into another) and since other developments have given it a wide berth. The Country also therefore exists in the vocabulary of Cloudbank natives as a metaphor for death, retirement, and disappearing off the social and digital grid

ember geode
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I thought the only way to die in Cloudbank was to be processed

white solar
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Nah

ember geode
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And that escaping to the Country was the only way to survive

noble portal
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there are loose mentions of foul play (ie. murder) in at least one Trace entry, but people who retire seem to just disappear so it doesn't seem like dying of old age is really a thing....

white solar
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well a lot of the game implies that going to the Country seems to be a voluntary choice

earnest basalt
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Weren't the (Level spoilers) ||people who took sanction within that one area Processed, last words of that reporter saying "See you in the country"?|| You know, from that one terminal

white solar
noble portal
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I thikn it can mean a lot of things depending on the context. Mr Nobody says a busted terminal you come across has "gone to the country" too. I thikn "social" death (leaving the city/network/one's carefully-crafted niche) and literal physical death are pretty synonymous to Cloudbankers

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sort of a "if you're not here, you may as well be dead" attitude

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again this is all just me and my thoughts, I've been working on an au/fic where Cloudbank gets rebuilt and things are relatively fine, so I've been thinking of ways to make that more interesting (esp. when plannin to bring in "outside" characters and how that works, what they think of Clloudbank, etc.)

white solar
outer garden
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One thing that’s interesting is how there isn’t a ton of “regular” citizens. Boxer knows everyone you come across, and I feel like there might be some truth in this being an isolated place that are designed for a select group of people, people that have achieved recognition for something

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Also, the camerata is the highest officials in the city, and they have no superiors from anywhere else, which means that there isn’t any kind of established governance besides people that run certain aspects of the city

noble portal
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I do think that most everyone is "someone" in Cloudbank, and people who aren't, who fall through the cracks, are like Boxer; they're basically non-entities who don't even register on a lot of systems

ember geode
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Can I share an unpopular opinion

outer garden
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Sure

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Proceeds to not type their opinion

ember geode
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I think I might prefer Bastion's story, because it is less obtuse

outer garden
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Oh there we go

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I haven’t played bastion yet

white solar
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I would love to see how Cloudbank looked while citizens still lived in it, lining junction Jan's and filling up Goldwalk district and all. Cloudbank in the game largely feels kenopsic and I feel it would be very beautiful when it's thriving

ember geode
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I like a story that I can easily understand in the moment, but still provides a lot to think about

white solar
noble portal
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I don't know if that's an unpopular opinion 🤷‍♀️

outer garden
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I have every intent too, I personally absolutely love all the mystery of transistor, I think the writing is genius, but at the same time it is frustrating and I can understand wanting a complete story

white solar
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When I first played both games, I said I liked Bastion's simple story better, while Transistor is still my favorite SGG game

noble portal
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but yeah I would love to see CLoudbank in its prime (I would do unsavoury things for official prequel content, ngl)

white solar
outer garden
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I think that there’s so much to cloudbank that’s never explored

white solar
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I don't care in what form it is. I feel like even in the form of a motion comic it would work very well for Transistor's style

ember geode
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Honestly, what Transistor needs is DLC
I know it's an old game, but I would love some DLC that answers some of our lingering questions

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Like, sidequests that reward lore or something

outer garden
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Supergiant games aren’t one for expansion

white solar
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I think with how much deserved praise and attention SGG has gotten from Hades, theyd be able to explore different avenues like I dunno making short animations or something to supplement their existing game worlds

noble portal
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I mean I started a prequel-y fic but it's been in progress for a very long time and while I have posted it, it's unfinished as of now

white solar
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Well if it's on Ao3 or Ff.net I'll follow it

outer garden
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I think hades was what SGG needed. They had a lot going for them with their first three games, but the effort they put into hades, and it’s resulting popularity, is I think what’s going to have established them as a real, noteworthy game studio whenever they make a new release

ember geode
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All three of Supergiant's games that I have played involve cycles

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Bastion has restoration

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Transistor has recursion

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Hades is... well... Hades

outer garden
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Supergiant really do have a unique style to them

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If they released a new game, and you have me a lineup of games I’d never played, I could pick out supergiants pretty easily

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Part of why I love them

ember geode
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I wonder how Supergiant would approach a multiplayer game

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Their traditional isometrick hack-n-slash style seems like it would lend well to multiplayer versus

noble portal
outer garden
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You’re not wrong, although I have a feeling it might be turn based

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But, I think they would put a very unique spin ons turn based game

white solar
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a turn based game with a multiplayer option would be cool too

ember geode
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Problem with turn-based multiplayer is what if one of the players goes AFK

white solar
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I say option because I'd prefer any Sgg game to be story or single player focused

outer garden
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you could argue that transistor is turn based

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I think that sgg lends itself to story more than anything

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And they accomplish that better with single player

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They do incredible world building and character design, not to mention music, so much of that would be lost in a multiplayer

white solar
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I mean technically Transistor's combat system could theoretically work in multiplayer, given the ||fight with Royce||

ember geode
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Would it be possible to beat Transistor without using Turn() at all within combat?

ember geode
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How hard would it be?

white solar
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Well in recursion it's easy at least

outer garden
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Not if you count the final encounter with the last camerata member

white solar
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but from the start,

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that would be tricky

outer garden
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I think you need your turn for that

noble portal
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a friend of mine apaprently played most of the game without Turn() and complained to me about the difficulty XD

white solar
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lmao wth

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they force you to use turn in the beginning of the game, so it's not like they didn't know about it

noble portal
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I would like to try a fully-loaded (at least 1 recursion) attempt at the final fight without using Turn. It'd be tough but I think with the right stuff it'd be possible

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I think he like, left it for a bit, forgot, and then came back to it? XD

white solar
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Yeah I've wanted to do a "speedrun" of the game without using Turn

noble portal
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or just didn't like it at first and played everything in realtime

ember geode
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||I want to see someone beat Royce without using Turn()||

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||I am sure it's possible, because Jaunt||

white solar
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Now I wanna try that XD

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maybe with mask too

ember geode
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You gotta show video proof if you do

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I wish Grant and Asher Kendrell had a boss fight
I get the themes and stuff
But the point stands; Transistor doesn't have enough bosses

white solar
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that's the only thing keeping Transistor from a 10 for me

noble portal
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I honestly thought ||Grant|| was going to be the final boss. Man had such ppowerful vibes XD

white solar
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||I wanted Asher to be a boss||

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if it had one more boss and maybe like, 2-3 hours of more story I would give Transistor a 10

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so it sits at like 9-9.5/10 in my book

ember geode
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Anyone who gets processed dies

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But not Sybil

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Sybil wasn't killed, she was integrated

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Why is she different

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Is it because she's Camerata

noble portal
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idk about that but I'm trying to phrase my thoughts here...

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we don't see other peopel succumb to being processed the way Sybil does, it could be that she just had the willpower to fight through and keep enough of her identity that she could still interact and her Trace was identifiable as her when she was Integrated (taken into the Transitor). We don't see many other citizens of Cloudbank, and basically none f them are still alive, so we can't prove the absence of other Processed individuals becoming somehting like Sybil does. The only other Processed people we see were nominally killed by the Process first and were being erased/unmade into raw data (Preston, Lillian, that guy at the Empty Set)

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I think the key difference is that Sybil was Processed alive, whereas other people were not

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why exactly, again, is up for debate

ember geode
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I wonder what would have happened if Red had left Sybil behind

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Perhaps she would still be in the remains of Cloudbank, wandering the empty streets

noble portal
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Turn UI and Boxer's dialogue implies she would have died anyway

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which is kinda sad, and I prefer the idea that she could have recovered if something repaired her, like a Weed

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but I'm all about that robot angst, so.... feral Processed Sybil roaming the half-unmade remains of Cloudbank appeals to me XD

ember geode
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I wanna see an AU story where everyone got processed alive

noble portal
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I have a few unwritten/WIP stories where Royce lets himself get Processed, partly For Science and partly bc he feels bad for Sybil being alone and weird

ember geode
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And then someone from outside shows up to figure out why Cloudbank went silent

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And they see all these automatons acting out facsimiles of people and their routines

white solar
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I'm still waiting for my idea of Processed Asher (and cat) to become manifested

noble portal
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I have a small-brain theory that what remained of CLoudbank is one fo the cities mentioned in Primordia, but nobody's played it so t's kind of a self-indulgent pet theory XD

ember geode
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Like that one scene in A Wrinkle in Time, where all the kids are playing in sync

white solar
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I really wanna play primordia some time

ember geode
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And then the outsider does something and the process turns on them

noble portal
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I highly reccomend, it's heckin' dark at times but the protag is voiced by Logan Cunningham and it's really well-written

white solar
noble portal
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also robot feels, so many robot feelings

ember geode
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Can I tell you about one of my favorite books of all time
Kind of off-topic but I want to talk about it

white solar
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I know about it because my brother who recommended Transistor to me loves it

noble portal
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ah excellent

ember geode
white solar
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Also because I've seen people liken the themes to SOMA, which is my other favorite game

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sure

noble portal
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man now I'm just... thinking about all my Processed!Royce junk I have no place for XD

earnest basalt
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...Why does it feel so strange to me that ||Royce||’s boss theme feels so out of place?
I think I know the answer, but I want to hear others’ words, also and first...

formal estuary
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and idk why but it gave me that feeling of similarity to Crash Bandicoot final boss themes (especially Crash 3)

outer garden
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||Royce is supposed to be very different, he’s designed to combat red in a very different way. The whole game is developed on the principle of taking your turn to defeat enemies, but Royce is designed to pit your own mechanics against you, which is something that isn’t very common, and is incredibly well executed in the game||

primal harbor
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My personal theory is because of how it completely steals the show from Red. Everything leading up to the ||Royce|| fight is transitioning from Red's perspective to theirs, making the story about them. Basically that entire sequence is him welcoming Red, and thus the player, inside his mind. This culminates into how the fight starts. ||By using Turn() before the player can act, he has solidified himself as the protagonist of his own story. This is no longer about Red, but instead Royce. It is his story that we have sent spiraling out of control. Never mind that he earlier admits that no matter what the outcome is he wins. Either he rebuilds the city, or he gets to know what its like inside the transistor. Plus, one of the instrument lines from Impossible also plays in his base if you listen closely. Perhaps in another (AU) Recursion it really would have been Royce as the hero and Red as the villain, as far as we know.||

outer garden
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What @primal harbor said, it completely shifts the point of view, just for that scene

formal estuary
primal harbor
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I actually noticed that on my third play through. It's a super nice touch.

outer garden
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||Also keep in mind that all the other “bosses” are more difficult fights. Royce is the only real boss, and they designed it so that he uses your own mechanics against you as a way to completely catch you off guard||

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Sybil and the spine aren’t really bosses, they’re just more difficult enemies, but you still use the exact same mechanics for them

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So in essence, the game was just made to be a bunch of challenges, and then a flipped mechanic as the only real boss battle

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||Although, this could just be me, because I didn’t use limiters and had a great load out, but Royce was a pretty easy boss||

primal harbor
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In my opinion The Spine is definitely the hardest fight in the game, but anything can be hard if you slap on enough limiters and/or don't build your function load out correctly.

odd jay
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Sorry to interrupt the discussion, but I recently ran into problems with Transistor and was wondering if anyone could help. After a few hours of play the game suddenly stopped recognizing my keyboard, and a computer reboot, un/reinstalling the game, and un/reinstalling Steam didn't help. Any ideas would be appreciated.

junior lagoon
odd jay
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None among the others I have installed, just Transistor.

formal estuary
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Try doing a clean boot then see if it works

junior lagoon
formal estuary
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Yes, Documents/Saved games is the spot where you can find it

junior lagoon
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If you're not sure, you could DM me a screenshot of the Transistor folder

odd jay
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Thanks, will try these out

odd jay
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Tried a clean boot and got an error about how my Steam Service needs maintenance, is this expected lol

junior lagoon
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I did not expect that :3 Not sure what it wants, either

formal estuary
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I forgotten about that, my bad

odd jay
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A clean boot fixed it 😩

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Time to look for what's killing my keyboard

formal estuary
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check for the other services that isn't from microsoft

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maybe there is a hidden service/software(bloatware) that is causing this

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My DM is open if you want further assistance

odd jay
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Thank you both very much for the help! Will poke around more on my own but I'll keep your offers in mind if I get stuck again lol

formal estuary
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You're welcome

ember geode
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Another nice touch

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Normal playthrough: "We're not gonna get away with this, are we"

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Recursion: "We're not getting away with this, are we"

formal estuary
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and with a different tone and a sound effect (similar to when you encounter the spine for the first time)!

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I've got so many shower thoughts about this game

ember geode
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Why does the core of the Transistor glow when it's being "suppressed"

formal estuary
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you mean when the spine is near?

ember geode
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Yeah

formal estuary
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Maybe the spine was created to limit the transistor's powers and not make it do anything

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(About the Process) remember : ||the process does what the people's votes wants||

ember geode
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Why can't Red control the process

formal estuary
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||And when you have the firewall access , you can do anything (just like in the later in the game where you can change the weather||

formal estuary
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Theory ||: the transistors is what keeps the process at bay, so when one of them got lost the process gone wild (maybe that's not the reason, but thats my theory, a g- no I'm not going to say it||

signal nymph
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||I thought that was actual lore and the cradle is what keeps them at bay||

ember geode
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You know what would have made the final boss cooler

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||What if Royce could negate your turns() with his own||

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||Like, you're planning your turn() and then he's like "sorry, that's not gonna work on me" and it forces you out of turn()||

formal estuary
formal estuary
ember geode
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||I wish Royce was harder, he is too easy; I was hoping that the fight would be such that I'd barely scrape by||

signal nymph
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Honestly sybil is harder then ||royce|| becuase of what you have and when

full tinsel
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I remember the first time i beat Transistor

ember geode
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||Imagine if Royce could use get()||

full tinsel
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The ending truly had me shook

ember geode
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||He'd keep using Get() and then he'd just combo you into oblivion||

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||And then if you tried to escape he'd use turn() and restart his combo||

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||And the only way to survive would be to be hyper vigilant at all times||

formal estuary
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which (overexaggerating) is kinda darksouls-y if you don't play attention now that most new players don't know what limiters does..

formal estuary
ember geode
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||What if Red moved on||

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||What if she didn't commit sudoku in the ending||

formal estuary
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||thus leaving her alone in the beautiful city of cloudbank!||

full tinsel
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Yup.

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It is a pretty unique story

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With some really great music to go with it

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Old Friends was my favorite

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I cried the first time i heard it

formal estuary
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It's one awesome way of starting a game

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All of the soundtracks was awesome

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especially Paper Boats, this one is insane

full tinsel
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Paper Boats: I will always find

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you

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Transistor really did hit me in the feels

formal estuary
full tinsel
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I really felt a bond with the narrator, which happened to be inside the device i carried as I played as red

formal estuary
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Logan cunningham (the voice of the narrator)!

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yes, the same dude who was nominated for the Voice acting of Hades in.... Hades

full tinsel
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Nice

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He really did deserve an award though imo

ember geode
#

Zagreus' voice actor also deserves a lot of credit

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Considering you hear his voice a lot more than Cunningham's

formal estuary
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Isn't Zagerus VC is Darren?

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I can't describe how multi-talented he is!

ember geode
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Also, Zia's voice actor

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We only hear her sing once, but that one time is awesome

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Plus the few lines she does have convey a decent amount of emotion I think

signal nymph
formal estuary
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Red in-game or Red singing?

signal nymph
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Both i think

shrewd root
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I know she does the humming and singing, but if there are any other sounds for Red then I don't believe Ashley did them. That said, I don't think Red makes any other sounds?

signal nymph
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She grunts some

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I think

full tinsel
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Red mostly doesn't speak

cedar grove
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i believe her va is kristin wilson

full tinsel
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Believe it or not

signal nymph
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Wow i couldnt tell

full tinsel
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She still is a great character

cedar grove
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which she shares with sybil

signal nymph
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The character wittb no tounge doesnt talk, color me suprised

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Why dis they cut her tounge out?

formal estuary
signal nymph
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Agreed

white solar
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_n C_rcles or however you spell it blew my mind when it first played during phase 3 of the sybil boss fight

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it was so robotic and mesmerizing

ember geode
#

Has anyone here ever heard of Shadowrun

white solar
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it's on my steam wishlist

signal nymph
ember geode
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Transistor's world reminds me of Shadowrun kinda

runic solar
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I never got around to the Shadowrun games off Epic, I’ve heard good things about them tho

ember geode
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But without all the weird computer stuff

signal nymph
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Yeah, shadowrun is definitly more dystopian tho

white solar
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does it have creative combat like transistor?

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i havent found a similar game where you can experiment and combine different abilities to the extent of transistor yet

runic solar
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Nah, it’s a classic iso turn-based rpg

white solar
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darn

ember geode
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It's like XCOM kind of

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You have cover and stuff

signal nymph
noble portal
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Man I assumed you meant Shadowrun the TTRPG. Showing my age I guess XD

pine hamlet
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...there's a non-TTRPG Shadowrun?

signal nymph
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No its a videogame series, it might be absed on the ttrpg tho

flint creek
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it is very much based on the TTRPG

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^^

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It's a direct adaptation

signal nymph
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Oh ok

pine hamlet
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Damn that's neat

ember geode
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Does anyone here like turn-based strategy games?

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If so, I would like to recommend Invisible Inc.

formal estuary
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Never played any, would love to play some

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Persona 5 looks cool

ember geode
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It's a turn-based isometric stealth action game

formal estuary
ember geode
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Now you may be wondering: How would a turn-based stealth game work?

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Well, you'll just have to play Invisible Inc. to find out

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But the general gist is that you have a ton of surveillance tools at your disposal

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The game is all about knowing where the enemies are and positioning your characters to be out of their line of sight

signal nymph
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It's really good

formal estuary
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Love me some stealth games

final helm
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How long is it?

formal estuary
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I loved MGS and now I started playing the Dishonored series

ember geode
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It's also a roguelike

ember geode
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It's a roguelike, meaning that you will fail repeatedly

signal nymph
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Theirs also an endless mode

formal estuary
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a turn-based stealth rougelike game cell

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I need to play it

ember geode
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And it's not a Hades-style roguelike either, you lose everything if you fail

signal nymph
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You keep unlocked characters tho

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I think

ember geode
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So lemme lay out the story for you

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2031 - Corporations control the world with brutal efficiency

signal nymph
ember geode
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Yes

formal estuary
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yee

ember geode
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What if Red ended up in the Transistor and Mr. Nobody stole it

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In other words what if they were reversed

signal nymph
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I would imagine around the same thing would happen, except hes REALLY angry

ember geode
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He'd turn left without any hesitation

rose plover
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@ember geode oh I know a few Bad North is one I enjoy. And the Shadow series

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Oops it didn't work

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I'm sorry

primal harbor
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Given how Unknown is referred to in the code, I imagine if he got the Transistor instead we'd probably get a couple scenes of him punching out some Process. Could make for a fun move that you can use during Turn recovery to stun enemies and do light damage.

noble portal
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I mean, the “role reversal” was how the original draft of Transistor was conceived. We would have been playing the Boxer with Red as a disembodied presence along to help

signal nymph
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Really? Didnt know that

broken path
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if u scroll up enough in announcements, u can find the documentary on the og concepts! :D

shrewd root
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signal nymph
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Gonna wach it later

earnest basalt
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No but, how do you effectively use Charm or Charm-related stuff?

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I find it difficult to work around the ability to nullify almost all of your foes and their attacks, but being unable to attack back.

white solar
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Certain combinations with Switch allow you to damage them while they are switched. Something with Purge

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Other than that, I never really liked switch

formal estuary
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Switch is low-key useful late game vs the hair cuts, that stuff always one shots me

outer garden
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Ok but like, the best damage combo will always be cull with load on it

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If you’re close, guaranteed five hundred damage

signal nymph
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Really?

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Didnt know it was that big of a change

outer garden
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Its pretty insane

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Favorite late game combo

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Here the thing though, it takes up most of the bar

white solar
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huh? doesn't load only increase the damage by like 110%

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which means the damage would be 247.5

blissful mountain
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Yeah what?

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Do you mean cull with spark?

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Also 3x void will make pretty much anything do more damage than that

junior lagoon
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3x void(crash) => Mask() => Cull(Load, something else) gets you about 2.5k damage

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And fits within a single Turn()

formal estuary
outer garden
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Lod increases it by way more than that

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Also, load doesn’t just increase damage

junior lagoon
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Also AoE

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By a lot

outer garden
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I’ll with load on it does the damage of cull, and then the blast from load does a ton more

formal estuary
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I use Load as a standalone upgrade and have purge installed

outer garden
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Load and cull are the highest damage attacks, in my opinion

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So I put the together and was getting situations where I could one shot the hairspray at the end, and then would just have standalone jaunt to get away while the turn was on cool down

formal estuary
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that was my build

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I use jaunt spark instead of tap

junior lagoon
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Just can't use that build in real combat because I can't guarantee a full combo against certain enemies

hexed nymph
#

Watching the NoClip making of documentary.... So wonderful

shrewd root
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All of the SGG noclip docs are quality! Glad you're enjoying the Transistor one

delicate nebula
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I'm going to have to watch it as well then

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I also love the video of the guy making the Transistor that talks

formal temple
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hey does anyone know what sound effect/s were used on ||sybil's voice during the battle|| in transistor? i'm looking specifically for something or a combination of things to create that effect. i've heard it in a few songs since then and it's really been bugging me :'(

still zealot
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the processing?

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I doubt it's a specific thing, more likely a combination of effects