Its sufficient yeah
#h2-for-new-players
dull night
formal gull
what cards do you guys recmend me, mainly because i ran down the death defince.
dull night
But more speed is never bad, so long as it isnt too much speed
dull night
what cards do you guys recmend me, mainly because i ran down the death defince.
Tbh whats good is good, but excellence and unseen are horrible
tidal moss
what cards do you guys recmend me, mainly because i ran down the death defince.
Origination and death are the two most important to start
dull night
Excellence is a big deal because it looks so clutch until you check rarity differences
Also an alternative for death is strength
No DD but a 40% damage taken reduction at max upgrade
formal gull
so what boons should i be on the hunt for. i haven't yet unlocked hermes. so i'm that early game.
tidal moss
so what boons should i be on the hunt for. i haven't yet unlocked hermes. so i'm...
Zeus
dull night
Zeus is the easiest to plug and play
tidal moss
But depends on the weapon
formal gull
defence? bro gave me an attack that would randomly hit for 400
formal gull
it's the whole reason i beat the first boss.
dull night
Whats funny is that 400 damage buff isnt even the best in the game
formal gull
wait for real.
dull night
For reference btw
Its possible to do 1k damage to skelly in the training grounds, completely boonless
formal gull
oh damn
dull night
My current wep does 400 damage to skelly in one input technically
Tbh like, a quick rundown on damage
formal gull
also another quetion a lot of my builds in Hades 1 leaned heavliy on Dio i think he's in this game does he still do hangover damage and if he does is it still as good?
dull night
Some add damage riders, others add damage buffs, others add utility properties
Dio isnt a primary god anymore, same as Athena
Your best friend is gonna be Hep lol
formal gull
so no more dealing like 70 damge per sec
tidal moss
also another quetion a lot of my builds in Hades 1 leaned heavliy on Dio i think...
Hestia is the dio equivalent
dull night
Hestia is dio with no stun but weird dodge utility with one boon and ramping damage
formal gull
so her burn damage stacks?
dull night
Yesnt
formal gull
how high?
dull night
It stacks but tick rate remains the same without specific boons
So imagine stacking 400 burn damage on a 100 hp enemy
100 burn damage would kill them at the exact same time
fallen blade
who am i supposed to dm if i wanna send images lol
tidal moss
like by hits. like Dio or is there another way
Yes
tidal moss
who am i supposed to dm if i wanna send images lol
You can dm me lol
formal gull
Holy stacks
tidal moss
Holy stacks
Stacking it wont increase the damage, at base it will always do 100 per second
formal gull
i will write my apollogies to Dio now.
and Hestia makes far more sense to me anyway.
fallen blade
Stacking it wont increase the damage, at base it will always do 100 per second
so what do i do here?
tidal moss
https://kommodo.ai/i/hfBhC0h2TY1maAGYE2rK
What weapon?
tidal moss
https://kommodo.ai/i/N0POfbfE2suLKCY6GQN5
Blinding rush
fallen blade
idk what that means lol
tidal moss
The boon
fallen blade
alright
https://kommodo.ai/i/tH2ICwFcy2MCzmvJRwph whether top or bottom ever matters
https://kommodo.ai/i/g5m3A1Cnul7pjVmzzvBG yay i got some ashes
fallen blade
https://kommodo.ai/i/Z6UXpWTYYc8xFVvXJYuD
@tidal moss what do you think here?
tidal moss
<@749832784486596648> what do you think here?
idk man, have fun with the game and learn it yourself
fallen blade
idk man, have fun with the game and learn it yourself
thanks man
i wish i can hover and get some info
<bones>
i died
so i should try to not take damage at all
cuz i don't heal
ahh it's a game about... hades
she works under hades and is trying to kill hades' father....
i wonder who is her father
potent quail
fallen blade
<:dusa:522248771409543188>
hello!
i don't usually like role playing games
but since i bought this... imma give my best shot
viscid nimbus
idh how to build any of these weapons
vivid flare
Well, generally speaking, you want ||Hera||, Apollo, and Aphrodite on slower but harder-hitting buttons, and Poseidon and Hestia on faster ones. Zeus and Hephaestus just work
dull night
Worth noting aphro buffs base damage, so it actually is affected by crit
Poseidon's stuff also has knockback at times
viscid nimbus
Well, generally speaking, you want ||Hera||, Apollo, and Aphrodite on slower but...
where does the staff fit in on this?
vivid flare
The former
Mel Staff especially, you ideally want a percentage on the Special and Blitz on the Attack because you can instantly pop it with a Special
short marsh
I know this question is asked a lot, but which character should I give the nectar first ?
vivid flare
Skelly or Moros
fossil condor
Skelly is a good first one, then I would prioritize giving them to the gods and the npcs you meet in special rooms like Arachne
viscid nimbus
how bout the torches?
fossil condor
how bout the torches?
Very easy to pick up and play
Hold down attack and dodge when needed
That’s the base damage loop
viscid nimbus
what're the good boons?
fossil condor
Relatively safe compared to other weapons and pretty flexible in terms of build since your attack hits often (good for stuff like Hestia attack, Zeus attack, Poseidon attack) but you’re also doing a hard attack with the omega combo so it can work with the other gods on attack if needed
Main thing you want is to make sure you have a good magic gain boon so you can spend most of your time doing omega attack and if your magick situation is good enough you can do omega specials mixed in
fossil condor
what're the good boons?
Try something like Demeter attack and Zeus special, but like i said it’s a very flexible weapon
the reverse would also work
vivid flare
Or Hera Attack
fossil condor
I didn’t want to spoiler tag so just didn’t mention her 😭
vivid flare
Yeah, but you could have said Apollo instead because Demeter cores that aren't her Cast are Not Good
fossil condor
There’s nothing wrong with dem cores for a first time torch user, this isn’t the speedrun channel or anything
midnight ridge
i still enjoy demeter attack and special for many weapons
heavy dagger
Do you have to fight Hecate in every run? Ive had to fight her like 5 times already and Ive been able to beat her 3 times, and its getting kinda annoying 😭
polar laurel
Yes, you do, that's how roguelikes work
fossil condor
Do you have to fight Hecate in every run? Ive had to fight her like 5 times alre...
Eventually no, for now yes
heavy dagger
Okay now im confused because one dude said yes and you said eventually no
heavy dagger
Eventually no, for now yes
When does it stop
left herald
Im about to grab these ashes but there's a transform option ive never seen before
heavy dagger
When does it stop
Sorry I worded that badly, when in the game does it allow you to not fight Hecate
karmic sable
Sorry I worded that badly, when in the game does it allow you to not fight Hecat...
The game eventually ||opens up a second route, allowing you to choose between two completely different paths for each run.||
heavy dagger
The game eventually ||opens up a second route, allowing you to choose between tw...
Ohhh okay, ty!
midnight ridge
Sorry I worded that badly, when in the game does it allow you to not fight Hecat...
||you will always have to fight a boss at the end of each region. later in the game you can go a second route, where instead of fighting hecate at the end of the first region, you fight somebody else. but you wont ever be able to progress through the underworld without fighting hecate|| <-- just spoiling the whole thing for other new players cause im lazy
fossil condor
Im about to grab these ashes but there's a transform option ive never seen befor...
It’s from the Artificer arcana
You can turn minor rewards into major rewards
So your ash could become a Pom or a god boon possibly even
If you choose to transform it
raven glade
I just beat chronos for the first time, what do I do next(i am going for the platinum trophy)
vivid flare
Well, he's not even the final boss of that route
proud pebble
Hey, so I heard the ax can blow projectiles but it doesn't for me. Is that an upgrade for the ax I just don't have yet?
raven glade
Well, he's not even the final boss of that route
😞
vivid flare
Hey, so I heard the ax can blow projectiles but it doesn't for me. Is that an up...
That's old information
raven glade
Btw how do I upgrade my cards, its one of the trophies and I cant do it even tho im 11 hours in
vivid flare
I don't think the axe block on the OSpecial survived even the first major update
vivid flare
Btw how do I upgrade my cards, its one of the trophies and I cant do it even tho...
You will find that it, like uncomfortably many things, is gated behind rolling the right dialogue with Hecate
wintry rivet
Mel called her headmistress
raven glade
Yeah you right
spare sequoia
Can you choose what boon will be chosen with ||sacrifice boons||
proud pebble
That's old information
So can I or can I not? Idk what if it is false info or not
vivid flare
So can I or can I not? Idk what if it is false info or not
You can't
proud pebble
Even with upgrades to ax?
vivid flare
Yeah, none of the Aspects or hammers give it one
proud pebble
Rip
viscid nimbus
what do i do when cerb covers the entire screen?
vivid flare
what do i do when cerb covers the entire screen?
Well, he doesn't cover it all at once
fossil condor
||run to where he is and there’s a hole in the screenwide warning area, or if he covered the screen in circles go to the newest ones and wait for the oldest ones to finish and then run to where they were||
fallen blade
no idea what these things are
but ill pick the feather maybe
random boon rare is intersting
wintry rivet
Weird way to upload pictures
fallen blade
Weird way to upload pictures
hello fren
vivid flare
Steady Growth is pretty neat, though I do think it was something of a nerf that it got made to not upgrade itself unless there were no other valid targets
fallen blade
long time no se
fallen blade
Steady Growth is pretty neat, though I do think it was something of a nerf that ...
ahh alright
fallen blade
Weird way to upload pictures
help me i suck
fallen blade
Weird way to upload pictures
i can't upload any pics here
wintry rivet
Generally you can upload pic to another private discord server then share the picture link
fallen blade
so i'm using link
fallen blade
Generally you can upload pic to another private discord server then share the pi...
yea but that would ping others
fallen blade
Create you own discord server
so what is good?
wintry rivet
Is this your first run btw?
wintry rivet
Don't worry you gonna die more, the game is even try to sabotage your first 10 run
fallen blade
wintry rivet
So i recommend you try core boon to test how they feel first
wintry rivet
Those strike/flourish boon
vivid flare
Sea Star is good for maybe getting more upgrade materials, High Surf is just really nice for clearing rooms
I cannot in good faith recommend Poseidon attack on the staff
fallen blade
alright
fallen blade
I cannot in good faith recommend Poseidon attack on the staff
lol
fallen blade
Sea Star is good for maybe getting more upgrade materials, High Surf is just rea...
ill taake this then
i will take a different strike boon that looks more compelling
fallen blade
Boon with strike/flourish/rush/ring/gain are core boon
is the mana pot lookng thing necessary?
fossil condor
Not for the starter weapon particularly
fallen blade
alright
wintry rivet
Depends on your plan in run, if you are using mana they can be good
wintry rivet
Boons is more fun
fallen blade
yea
i never rlly use my cast
maybe im just not used to it
oh yea i have freeze
ill upgrade freeze
idk what is bones for yet
i guess ill take ash for arcana
shiet i died
fossil condor
Bones is for buying stuff at the merchant back home. Ash is good to prioritize until you have all arcana
vivid flare
i never rlly use my cast
You should
vivid flare
ABC: Always Be Casting
fallen blade
alrigh
ill get the night first
i don't think i'm buying anything just yet tho
maybe fate?
fossil condor
Don’t buy fabric unless a recipe is asking for it is my suggestion
fossil condor
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046445654064513107/1500704978522603581...
Skelly first will help you get further
fallen blade
alright
wintry rivet
Give it to god give you boon first
fossil condor
But there’s no wrong person to give nectar to
You wanna give some to everyone you can
wintry rivet
They unlock god keepsake let you mold your run better
fallen blade
Give it to god give you boon first
oh so hecate?
fossil condor
She’s not a boon god
The boon gods are the ones you get as room rewards where you pick a boon
Like Apollo
You can gift them nectar before you pick it up
fallen blade
vivid flare
I'd recommend doing Fated Intervention and the follow-up Incantation for it as soon as you can, because it'll introduce you to a new NPC who has one of the best Keepsakes in the game
fallen blade
You can gift them nectar before you pick it up
oh alright
fossil condor
That’s him
fallen blade
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046445654064513107/1500702951511949494...
this thing?
ill do it next time
fossil condor
Yes
fallen blade
i don't have the material for it
fossil condor
There’s really no wrong decisions this early on so don’t worry too much
The more you play the more you learn
fossil condor
The more you die the more resources you get and more meta unlocks you will gain
The very start of the game is the best time to experiment
fallen blade
my micro is terrible
fossil condor
Found the league player
fallen blade
Found the league player
lol
never played league for a long time
is this a boon god?/
vivid flare
You can't give Nectar on your first meeting with a character or first encounter with a Boon
fossil condor
Also the keepsakes you get from them have to be equipped at the keepsakes box in the training area before you start a night
fossil condor
You can't give Nectar on your first meeting with a character or first encounter ...
Oh true
fallen blade
oh yea
so i couldn't have given it
i thought i didn't cuz i didn't know what to press lol
fossil condor
Eventually that merchant will sell one nectar every time you come home so it’s a good way to get at least one every night
fallen blade
Eventually that merchant will sell one nectar every time you come home so it’s a...
alright
just gonna get strike
fallen blade
Eventually that merchant will sell one nectar every time you come home so it’s a...
got ever lasting ember
fossil condor
fossil condor
Anything because eventually there’s a completion record for taking every one she can offer and you’re learning still so it’s not too important which ones in particular you take now
Just try stuff out and see what feels good and what feels weak
fossil condor
desert robin
take pyro if you have flame strike on fast weap
Ye go test stuff out
formal gull
how many definces can i get? like in the first game there's 3
tidal moss
how many definces can i get? like in the first game there's 3
3, you need to upgrade the death arcana
formal gull
i had a feeling you could upgrade it. so how do i do that
primal trench
Youll unlock the ability upgrade as you play
formal gull
ok so again i've learned that the only way to learn is to get good. lol
fossil condor
I think it’s the other way around no
fallen blade
ok so again i've learned that the only way to learn is to get good. lol
damn same
fossil condor
If you’re h1 pilled, make sure to remember that you have a sprint now and a cast that pretty much stops enemies in their tracks
wintry rivet
Spam that cast button
primal trench
ok so again i've learned that the only way to learn is to get good. lol
Core part of the roguelike genre
Upgrades will help, but only so much
dull night
but i really struggle to get out of the first world.
Tbf the power accumulation is massive
Theres a challenge to do the starting area cardless and I actually died lol
I can usually sweep final boss deathless now
formal gull
I could never
Not at the moment
In the first game I melt lernie
I remember when he was hard
Now I can walk in there with nothing but prayers and it works
Lol
dull night
Same
Theseus used to wall me
Now tbh he's still got a better chance on stopping me than most H2 bosses, but I can win more often than not
formal gull
Yea so far In playing I have taken a liking to the sister blades.
I played Hades one again just to prove I still could play game
Because I suck again. So I chose to play game again that I don't suck.
dull night
Not rly, tho heat rush is good for anoyher reason
split current
just test different boons and see what u like
fallen blade
fallen blade
just test different boons and see what u like
damn another get gud answer
fallen blade
Not rly, tho heat rush is good for anoyher reason
ill take heatrush thanks
what are your settings?
illl set dash to my mouse bar, and cast
i keep forgetting to cast
wintry rivet
Pyro technique is broken when you are doing scorching, it is a huge dmg multiplier but you need able to maintain scorch
fallen blade
Pyro technique is broken when you are doing scorching, it is a huge dmg multipli...
sadge
i was about to click it lol
fallen blade
Pyro technique is broken when you are doing scorching, it is a huge dmg multipli...
what is the skill on top?
is that a boss room?
i wish v2 have multiplayer
wintry rivet
Elite
fallen blade
would be fun
wintry rivet
The boon has higher chance to be higher rarity
fallen blade
do i always take elites?/
wintry rivet
And the room is guaranteed to have boon so if you use reroll it reroll to another boon
fallen blade
the fire up top is enticing
wintry rivet
Well you take it based on the reward, if the boon it give you don't want you don't take it
fallen blade
its feather
wintry rivet
Or when time is a thing to consider, since the room is faster usually
tidal moss
damn another get gud answer
You're at the very start of the game, you'll suck no matter what advice we give u
wintry rivet
Speedrun or future difficulties option
primal trench
what are your settings?
Default 💪
primal trench
do i always take elites?/
You take the room with the reward you want, no point in taking increased chances for rares if you dont want the boons from the god
fallen blade
You're at the very start of the game, you'll suck no matter what advice we give ...
i’m ok with sucking but i like perspective
tidal moss
i’m ok with sucking but i like perspective
Literally just play the game and figure out what you do and don't like
primal trench
Some like to skip that phase and min max from the getgo
To each their own i suppoze
tidal moss
Yeah but spamming the channel with images is getting annoying
primal trench
🤷♂️
What ill add is a lot of stuff is subjective, no matter what other say, most of the time it comes down to preference
dull night
Also, hades 2 is pretty balanced
90% of those bad boons have niche uses where theyre somehow best in slot
formal gull
i've noticed that. like Apollo boon that makes the cast grow, and another with blast damage. i paired it with Hestia cast and i nearly defeated Syclla.
and i had Poseidon speaicl
and Hep attack
i seem to like them better
i don't know why
potent quail
Also, hades 2 is pretty balanced
yep, its crazy how well balanced this game is
desert robin
yep, its crazy how well balanced this game is
except selene coat, am i right 
tidal moss
No game is perfect
tidal moss
wheres the #3?
Don't have one yet
desert robin
Don't have one yet
ill choke a god run with it one day and be #3 fr
tidal moss
ill choke a god run with it one day and be #3 fr
Why wait
dull night
i've noticed that. like Apollo boon that makes the cast grow, and another with ...
Also demeter attack, which is among bottom 2 worst damage in the game, is my favorite for nergal axe
dull night
i seem to like them better
Idk if im mistaken but it seems hep's booms are their own things, they dont share a boom counter
tidal moss
?
dull night
So a hep attack, special, and dash nuke are their own booms
Unlike hestia scorch, where they add to the total burn rate but not the application window
formal gull
yea i worked it out
i just thought it was fun. and it worked. so i think if it ain't broke don't fix it.
so that's my build if i can get it.
dull night
Its rly funny because I also got early candela
So all of my boom boons got +200 damage and 50% aoe
formal gull
my last run didn't make it past the first boss. mainly because Poseidon really refused to give me his speaicl.
dull night
Time for denoid dagger
winter basin
how do i get silver?
Silver is the mined resource in Erebus
You have to unlock the pickaxe first which requires an incantation
fallen blade
You have to unlock the pickaxe first which requires an incantation
hmmm
fallen blade
You have to unlock the pickaxe first which requires an incantation
is this the pickaxe?
tidal moss
how do i beat erebus
Erebus is the first region
fallen blade
how do i learn micro?
tidal moss
SIlver can be found in some rooms randomly
fallen blade
Erebus is the first region
ahh make sense
tidal moss
how do i learn micro?
You can watch people play the game on youtube
fallen blade
You can watch people play the game on youtube
those look so confusing for me
small panther
in my experience the only way to get better is to just play the game
tidal moss
those look so confusing for me
I can record some clips of me doing some simple stuff, no spoilers or anything
tidal moss
in my experience the only way to get better is to just play the game
We've been telling them that
fallen blade
I can record some clips of me doing some simple stuff, no spoilers or anything
thanks
btw i just gift everyone once right?
in the beginning
fallen blade
We've been telling them that
ive bean dying earlier and earlier lol
tall kernel
those look so confusing for me
Once you’ve played a lot, watching YouTube videos are not confusing.
tidal moss
btw i just gift everyone once right?
Yep
tall kernel
btw i just gift everyone once right?
Once you have gifted all of the Olympian’s you’ll unlock a feature allowing you to see their boons and each 2nd tiers requirements.
Until then the game considers such knowledge too much. 😅
fallen blade
Once you have gifted all of the Olympian’s you’ll unlock a feature allowing you ...
ahh alright
fallen blade
Until then the game considers such knowledge too much. 😅
it prolly is lol
what does rarify cost?/
tidal moss
what does rarify cost?/
Nothing, it's part of the keepsake, u can only do it once tho
fallen blade
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046445654064513107/1500798819539882024/image.png?ex=69f9bf52&is=69f86dd2&hm=bd5e81e43894c217ba40dec61b25ad552859a17922b0092aa4bcc80ef165188a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2280&height=1486
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1500800236803850320/1500870518822142044/image.png?ex=69fa0218&is=69f8b098&hm=6624d15eecfaff6421d80f92e6dac65626f3cb648513520a73116148dcc3b645&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1076&height=700
do i want pyro or double scorch?
tidal moss
Pyro
fallen blade
Nothing, it's part of the keepsake, u can only do it once tho
i see, so since die early
thanks hehe
i just died to the doom darkness guy
how do i face it
it might be to kill the side guys before going into the big one
What does gold do?
tidal moss
What does gold do?
You can buy things at the charon shops
fallen blade
You can buy things at the charon shops
yea i just experienced a shop
was interesting
i think its prolly always just better to get the heal
opal mural
Nah it's def the worst one of the three
Second one is best, third one is pretty good too
tidal moss
i think its prolly always just better to get the heal
Vampiric is pretty bad
fallen blade
Vampiric is pretty bad
wait
fallen blade
Second one is best, third one is pretty good too
damn i picked it and it felt good
i feel like i'm topped up all the time
maybe healing is just noob bait
fallen blade
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1500800236803850320/1500877842701881344...
so that is the boss?
after that
i will shop
primal trench
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046445654064513107/1500798819539882024...
So did you just pause the run from earlier or?
fallen blade
with 285 gold
fallen blade
So did you just pause the run from earlier or?
nah
primal trench
Then?
primal trench
Thats the exact same screenshot you posted earlier
fallen blade
Thats the exact same screenshot you posted earlier
how is it the same?
primal trench
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046445654064513107/1500798819539882024...
It's right here, same gold, same boons, same hp
fallen blade
oh maybe
primal trench
Oh maybe
primal trench
Oh you are?
fallen blade
i guess so
primal trench
Pants of fire 🤭
primal trench
The book, BTW since you like to post pics, anything past this is spoiler here
fallen blade
The book, BTW since you like to post pics, anything past this is spoiler here
what book?
oh
primal trench
The codex, you'll find out
fallen blade
dam i still feel new
primal trench
You have 8 grasp
primal trench
Just remember to spoilers anything past this point
fallen blade
so the boss is spoiler?
primal trench
I suppose this boss isn't, but afterwards it is
fallen blade
You have 8 grasp
what does that mean?
primal trench
It means you dont feel new, it means you are new
fallen blade
make sense
primal trench
i can send embeds at least lol
The other servers dont to prevent such things as media spam
fallen blade
fallen blade
The other servers dont to prevent such things as media spam
ahh alright
i think i need frontload but...
tidal moss
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1500800236803850320/1500879975044087838...
Arctic
craggy perch
It's all to make you a more capable adversary for Chronos dw 
tidal moss
i was looking forward to getting silver
Silver is in the region you have to go through to get to hecate
primal trench
shes not gatekeeping it
primal trench
thats cause rarify is coming from your keepsake, which happens to be hestia's
fallen blade
Silver is in the region you have to go through to get to hecate
yea sad
fallen blade
thats cause rarify is coming from your keepsake, which happens to be hestia's
oh rlly?
primal trench
says so in the keepsake
primal trench
yeah try stuff out!
primal trench
it is
primal trench
do you tho
fallen blade
fallen blade
you use mana for your weapon
make sense
the special skill i have to practice dashing right after i use it
ill get thunder rush
or just flourish
yea flourish
primal trench
good luck on your run, im out till else shows up
fallen blade
good luck on your run, im out till else shows up
thanks man
see ya
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im already at 25 health so
i heard pos has a great rush
idk what does prime means
like i can only use 30 magic?
primal trench
idk what does prime means
it means 30 of your max magik is locked, so if youn had 100, youd go down to 70
fallen blade
it means 30 of your max magik is locked, so if youn had 100, youd go down to 70
ahh alright
its not worth it for staff
vivid flare
its not worth it for staff
Sure it is, you don't use your Omegas that much on Mel Staff
fallen blade
Sure it is, you don't use your Omegas that much on Mel Staff
rllt
i use it quite a bit
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to unlock more grasp
primal trench
top right, click the 9/10
primal trench
then go get psyche
vivid flare
Have you unlocked the gathering tools to get more Psyche?
fallen blade
Have you unlocked the gathering tools to get more Psyche?
uhh
i only have the pickaxe
vivid flare
Get to mining
primal trench
theres no "always pick"
fallen blade
i keep forgettign the abcs
i feel like i took too much damage
ill take the heal then
opal mural
Well personally the always pick is the most armor for me lol
Unless I just got Hephaestus armor and I think I can save it then maybe I'll take one with a strong effect like cast dress but that's almost never
primal trench
it depends on my build for me
fallen blade
Unless I just got Hephaestus armor and I think I can save it then maybe I'll tak...
that is interesting
i got heph right after
i lost all my nectars
i shouldn't have wasted it on the lobby
i guess ill get heavy metal
the middle looks quite broken
permanent armor?
primal trench
only for that location
vivid flare
only for that location
Yeah, but it also refreshes up to that 10 every room
opal mural
permanent armor?
It doesn't stack so you basically just get a free hit per room which is still amazing and it's definitely one of the best boons in the game
primal trench
Yeah, but it also refreshes up to that 10 every room
correct, but is not permanent, you cant stack it
fallen blade
fallen blade
It doesn't stack so you basically just get a free hit per room which is still am...
yea make sense
10 per stage is still good
ill buy all of these
i only have 70 energy tho
ill have 20
for the boss
we killed the boss
woooo
what happens after i activate || fates intervention?||
primal trench
what does it say again?
fallen blade
it says the ||fate|| hears us or smtg
primal trench
if its a spell it has a description
fallen blade
its from the cauldron
fallen blade
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primal trench
go to the yard, then back out
fallen blade
go to the yard, then back out
primal trench
ah, its gonna lead to ||moros|| contacting you
and give you the ||fated list of prophecies||
fallen blade
make sure to spoiler the || fates ||
anything to do with ||fates?||
swift path
anything to do with ||fates?||
yes anything post game
fallen blade
primal trench
anything that happens past erebus is spoiker
fallen blade
i got silvers in erebus tbh
primal trench
but you get this after erebus
fallen blade
ahh alright
primal trench
pretty much most of the things you send from now on will be spoilers in this channel
primal trench
it is a story game, its meant to be experienced by everyone
fallen blade
are ||knives|| good?
fallen blade
it is a story game, its meant to be experienced by everyone
alright
primal trench
all weapons are good
fallen blade
but the way they are used is different i guess
swift path
Twin blades is fun
fallen blade
Twin blades is fun
nice
never seen purple before
but this look so meh
imma take it tho
vivid flare
At minimum, you won't have to take it again for the prophecy
fallen blade
oh interesting
vivid flare
You played the first game, yeah?
vivid flare
You should
fallen blade
this is my first rogue like other than slay the spire
fallen blade
You should
need mone
i guess twin blades have differnt hammer
first one looks good but the micro is weird
ill get trick knives instead i guess
opal mural
Trick Knives is the (second) best hammer in the game
vivid flare
Trick Knives is a win condition
fallen blade
Trick Knives is the (second) best hammer in the game
ahh cool
idk about wave
we take high surfe maybe
i don't really use my omegas
maybe i should but i don't
vivid flare
You don't really use them on the base knives unless you get hammers that buff them
fallen blade
You don't really use them on the base knives unless you get hammers that buff th...
ahh make sense
torches are hard to use
viscid nimbus
which are the easiest difficulty modifiers?
dense anchor
time1 and time2 (time3 can be a little bit harder to get used to, but it's not that hard)
if your intent is to play decently high fear, then frenzy2 is a good place to start. you'll get used to the timing and basically will always have it on for 6 fear
then you can start adding fear like debt, hubris, shadow, denial
crisp junco
How do I obtain moss again ? I realize I have 1 and need a second but no idea where and when I got it
vivid flare
How do I obtain moss again ? I realize I have 1 and need a second but no idea wh...
Well, you can check your inventory to see where it's obtained
polar laurel
Trick Knives is the (second) best hammer in the game
What's better??
real osprey
Possessed Array
desert robin
you need to be possessed while possessing an array to understand
real osprey
The damage output of Possessed Array is frankly insane
short marsh
can't defeat cronos and complete my first run, need help
polar laurel
Possessed Array
Yeah i guess that's fair
Possessed array does take more build around at least
What gain is best with it
I'd guess hestia
Maybe Apollo in the right build
Or poseidon? I haven't really used poseidon gain enough
vivid flare
can't defeat cronos and complete my first run, need help
What's killing you?
polar laurel
How to beat hades 2:
- step 1: get origination
midnight ridge
What gain is best with it
||hera|| gain is the only way to really get full uptime out of possessed array with no pauses, as long as you have decent levels in it and decent max magick. poseidon gain is good too for like 50% uptime. hestia gain isnt bad either, its consistent to get one possessed array every 2-3 hits. apollo also isnt bad, requires you to really be spamming your cast though
polar laurel
Winner's circle does exist tbf
Thats the only case I was thinking there
Apollo with winner's circle is like my brains go-to infinite magick switch
midnight ridge
this is true
vivid flare
||Grisly|| can also be solid if you get ||Heinous Affront||
midnight ridge
you know what i bet grisly- yeah
nowadays its sorta the better cardio gain? as far as i can tell at least
fossil condor
Per strike I’m pretty sure it’s less, without support
Only a 20% chance to fire
Or something like that
It’s still good tho
tidal moss
It regens alot more, and you can get it from multiple sources, in some situations it's better
viscid nimbus
how do i build the sister blades?
vivid flare
Poseidon or Hestia on the Attack, those two or Zeus on the Special
fossil condor
Two curses and preferably something like Poseidon on special
dull night
Also base aspect?
vivid flare
Presumably
dull night
Also try to get aoe on those blades
tidal moss
how do i build the sister blades?
Check the pins in #h2-builds-and-combat
fallen blade
It goes hard on attack
Ahh interesting
fallen blade
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i picked shredder
now it misses
proven gazelle
yeah sorry for being a bit late, but iirc in that specific case giga cleaver ends up being the take iirc cuz its functionally just 2x for a small mana requirment that you can build around
swift path
Yea I wouldnt recommend shredder
fallen blade
u need to make a small distance with the enemies
lolyea make sense
swift path
but if ur tryna complete prophecies then that makes sense
fallen blade
i didn't know what each would do
i got this a second time tho
i took 100% more damage on shield instead of cleaver
sadly
how do i know whether i gifted someone
i feel like i gifted majority of boon gods but idk
swift path
how do i know whether i gifted someone
whenever you encounter a god, you will have the option to gift them nectar
fallen blade
yea
but i mean i wanna gift them 1 each
i can't know whether i gifted them before
swift path
oh
I believe you can use the codex to check which gods you havent gifted yet
that will really help if your trying to collect keepsakes
tidal moss
You don't get codex until you've gifted enough olympians
fallen blade
I believe you can use the codex to check which gods you havent gifted yet
can i check during the game?
oh alright
im quite sure i gifted artermis before
i will skip
i feeel like support fire is nice
but idk if it's nice with axe
prolly
swift path
can i check during the game?
once you unlock the codex yes
fallen blade
once you unlock the codex yes
ahh yea rightt
swift path
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Support Fire in Hades II isnt as good as Hades
wintry rivet
Support fire generally bad for most aspects
swift path
Support Fire only shoots 3 arrows
wintry rivet
Number small and too many hidden limit
fallen blade
Support fire generally bad for most aspects
rlly, i went further that run so i thought it might be good lol
wintry rivet
Crit is broken
swift path
support fire may be good if you have air quality
fallen blade
i died again lol
fallen blade
You deal 3x dmg on crit
ohh cooll
Btw i don't really know how to gain ||psyche|| ||how do i convince the ghost||?
||do i just click left and right or smtg||
wintry rivet
You need to hold the button it tell you
swift path
or you can use Frinos to do it for you lol
fallen blade
or you can use Frinos to do it for you lol
what is that lol
so i hold not just tap
i see
swift path
so i hold not just tap
yes hold
fallen blade
swift path
what is that lol
a pet you have in Erebus, youll find out later he can be your companion
swift path
Smolder ring out of all of these is the best option
swift path
well whatever weapon it is you can try using the attack or special
I find smolder ring good if ur using a weapon that is slow
but if your weapon deals attacks fast then go for the attack/special
fallen blade
I find smolder ring good if ur using a weapon that is slow
ah alright
i have axe so
thanks for the top
top
proven gazelle
i feel like there are way better casts
i mean sure its no zeus cast for damage or demeter for safety but its a pretty damn good damage output
as long as you get 2 cures for origination just about anything can work out
fallen blade
i feel like aphrodite is good
proven gazelle
its solid! damage is ok and the crowd control is great if you use it right
fallen blade
who do you guys think have the best dash?
proven gazelle
apollo/demeter
fallen blade
fallen blade
apollo/demeter
hmm alright
proven gazelle
rushes in general dont do as much as dashes did in h1, but apollos is a super free curse applicator for a really strong curse, and demeter dash keeps you very safe while dealing ok chip damage and also being an easy curse applicator
unless you want raw damage in which its gonna be posiedon rush is best but it takes a big combo change to use properly
fallen blade
i gifted chaos, idk whether its boon, most likely not
fallen blade
rushes in general dont do as much as dashes did in h1, but apollos is a super fr...
ill try those
thanks
last time i picked chaos my run died
celebrity looks so interesting
i guess its the easiest one
i rly thought apollo is the sun god
wintry rivet
This is hermes
fossil condor
A lot
fallen blade
i have hermes artemis selene zeus poseidon demeter apollo, aphrodite hestia arachne
fossil condor
You rly like the Hestia one huh 👀
fossil condor
You levelled it to max already
fossil condor
They level up by you using them
fallen blade
i only gifted it once, at most twice
fossil condor
Every room you clear while using it
fallen blade
i mean i have no choice but to use them no?
fossil condor
Makes it level up
wintry rivet
changing keepsake take a incantations
fallen blade
it keeps coming at my starting place
fossil condor
changing keepsake take a incantations
In between regions yeah
wintry rivet
You can change your keepsake
fallen blade
well idk how
fossil condor
it keeps coming at my starting place
You can change at the box in training area
fallen blade
i think demeter is cooler
fossil condor
To the left of where your weapons are
fossil condor
It’s right there in your picture 👀
tidal moss
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The cabinet up and right
fallen blade
im blind
fallen blade
It’s right there in your picture 👀
so like that cart thing
lol
thats the only thing i see right and up
tidal moss
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Yes, so equip other keepsakes
fallen blade
Yes, so equip other keepsakes
what do you think about chaos keep sake?
tidal moss
what do you think about chaos keep sake?
It's kinda mid
fallen blade
hmm
tidal moss
Antler is the best keepsake you have rn
fallen blade
alright ll try that thanks
ok i haven't seen athena
dyonisus
ares
i just need the 3 of them
hepheastus is not rlly a boon god
primal trench
Antler is the best keepsake you have rn
Sentenced him to death
tidal moss
i just need the 3 of them
At the rate you are progressing, it will be a long time before you see them, also spoliers
fallen blade
wait that is hades 1
primal trench
I thought you didnt play hades 1
fallen blade
I thought you didnt play hades 1
am looking at wiki
primal trench
I see
fallen blade
At the rate you are progressing, it will be a long time before you see them, als...
idk what are and what are not lol
primal trench
Good ol "just keep playing"
And I told you, pretty much everything you experience right now is spoilers
primal trench
Yes and no, like rules say post erebus, but lot of stuff only happens once youre getting past erebus
fallen blade
primal trench
Which is technically spoilers
dull night
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Dont overthink tbh
fallen blade
these looks trash lol
fallen blade
Dont overthink tbh
i'll try
dull night
You usually wanna knock out prophecies earlier so go for those
dull night
Other than that hermes only has 1 bad boon and its his legendary lol
primal trench
Hermes is the money man 🥴
dull night
I wanna spend my money
fossil condor
I wanna spend my money
Spend it on not dying
fallen blade
Hermes is the money man 🥴
you guys love money?
i feel ilke money doesn't really matter here
primal trench
Money is good, gets you stronger. Whats not to like
wintry rivet
Be rich
fallen blade
as long as i can buy the whole shop
wintry rivet
Shop room has no combat
tidal moss
i feel ilke money doesn't really matter here
Money is one of the most important parts of h2
wintry rivet
So be rich and go shop room
fallen blade
would you guys go for money room instead of boon?
primal trench
Depends on the boon and my money
dull night
i feel ilke money doesn't really matter here
Havent seen the right boons yet
tidal moss
wish it was sts2
Why do you keep comparing h2 to a completely different game
dull night
What even is sts2
fallen blade
fossil condor
would you guys go for money room instead of boon?
Late in progression usually but early on I wanna discover more boons for prophecies
tidal moss
What even is sts2
Slay the spire 2, it's a deckbuilding roguelike
primal trench
Why do you keep comparing h2 to a completely different game
Because thats the other game they play, they do the same thing in the sts server, post every decision
fallen blade
Psychic whirlwind is fun af
i'll take that then
dull night
And thats a completely different game
Like lmao its not even close to hades gameplay beyond "roguelike"
primal trench
Pretty much yeah
dull night
By that logic may as well include deathloop
primal trench
Yet again every games is called a hadeslike nowadays, which i hate, but I can see why people might think that way
dull night
Fun fact: roguelikes overtook rogue games in popularity
primal trench
What
dull night
Old rogue games had no progression retention beyond knowledge
So no stacking power or resources or skills between runs
primal trench
Old rogue games? You mena roguelikes
fossil condor
That’s the technical difference between roguelike and roguelite
fallen blade
Because thats the other game they play, they do the same thing in the sts server...
yea its fun
fossil condor
But everyone just says whatever nowadays
primal trench
Old rogue games had no progression retention beyond knowledge
This is roguelike, the other is roguelite
dull night
Roguelike/Roguelites were coined for the og games that cushioned it
fallen blade
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primal trench
The og games were called roguelikes, because they were games like rogue
fallen blade
ill take howl
dull night
Okay, actually now I gotta ask, if thats a roguelike whats a rogue game? Is that a thing
OH they were named after the game
fallen blade
i don't get it either
fossil condor
The original roguelike was called Rogue
primal trench
Theres no "rogue game" thats what a roguelike is, a game like rogue
dull night
Lmao watch me flaunt my dumbassery
fallen blade
but i feel like rn, roughlike is like you slowly lose health and rarely get healing
primal trench
Roughlike 💀
dull night
Rouguelike is rechnically by definition is a game where you dont carryover progression between runs
fossil condor
Main characteristics are every run is different, and permadeath
primal trench
Rouguelike is rechnically by definition is a game where you dont carryover progr...
Roguelike*
dull night
Rougelites are the ones where they cushion it with resources or power accumulation for repeat runs
fossil condor
Roguelites keep the every run is different but add meta cushions
primal trench
Rougelites are the ones where they cushion it with resources or power accumulati...
Roguelite*
dull night
But roguelites eventually overtook the roguelikes because people liked incremental prigression
dull night
Roguelite*
Did I not say that tho
primal trench
No you said rouguelite
fossil condor
No he said rougelite
primal trench
But roguelites eventually overtook the roguelikes because people liked increment...
Because most people dont care and most of the time it doesnt really matter
dull night
But yeah, true roguelikes are kind of a dead genre
fossil condor
True roguelikes are very rare yes
dull night
Because most people dont care and most of the time it doesnt really matter
Its just cool how they eventually overtook the original version
primal trench
I prefer true roguelikes but I dont really mind meta progression so I just call then both the same
dull night
Etymology is neat
fossil condor
And honestly for good reason. It’s not a broadly appealing style of gameplay
fallen blade
having 30 max is rough
primal trench
Yeah antler early isnt a good idea
dull night
Tbh I cant even recall any recent true roguelikes
Theyre almost always roguelites nowadays
primal trench
Because they aren't as popular
Nah we have roguelikes coming out, they just dont reach the spotlight
dull night
Whats the biggest you recall
tidal moss
Outside of souls games, harder games are just alot less popular
dull night
I think nethack technically is a roguelike but damn thats old
fossil condor
NetHack is one of the most popular but it’s weird (to most people)
fallen blade
Outside of souls games, harder games are just alot less popular
cuz harder to progress maybe
primal trench
Darl just came out
fallen blade
is hades a difficult game?
dull night
Yesnt
tidal moss
Not really
dull night
You get so much better by the end you wonder how you died to hecate
fossil condor
Plenty of people would consider it hard
tidal moss
You can make it as hard as you want
dull night
Hades also has my favorite accessibility mode
fossil condor
But it’s not a bad learning curve at all
dull night
Its very fair and completely opt in
fallen blade
hmm
dull night
Versus games like far cry dumbing down everything to accomodate player limitations
tidal moss
But base difficulty is very forgiving, and theres also godmode, so just about anyone can at least do the ending
primal trench
Yeha a lot of people overvalue rarity
fallen blade
Rarity is a trap
that is what i felt
dull night
Theyre relevant for maybe a half dozen boons in a game with low hundreds of boons
fossil condor
But my funny purple booms
dull night
But when theyre relevant theyre rly relevant
Hep boom is one of the few where rarity matters
tidal moss
My biggest complaint aboust h2 are how many 'noob traps' there are
fallen blade
i feel like i don't to the npc anymore at this point
primal trench
Like hexes 🤭
dull night
I got the true ending and a few more runs before luthien told me its garbo
primal trench
But im not having this conversation
dull night
Hexes can be good, how dare
tidal moss
The excellence card definitely is one of them
Excellence, unseen, overreliance on hexes, things like that
fallen blade
primal trench
The excellence card definitely is one of them
Absolute trash, massive 5 grasp for a whole lotta nothing
tidal moss
I'm not saying they can't be good
fallen blade
what do you guys think about my arcana
dull night
Absolute trash, massive 5 grasp for a whole lotta nothing
Thanks for making me prime 5 less magick
fallen blade
i might just take death
tidal moss
I've just seen alot of new players stuck because they use hexes more than gods
dull night
what do you guys think about my arcana
You left some cards at the bus stop
tidal moss
i might just take death
Should be your number 1 priority
dull night
I've just seen alot of new players stuck because they use hexes more than gods
Killing ||Cerb|| wolf howl only
primal trench
"Just invest 3 rooms into them
And a keepsake, and a whole ass deity"
Are you listening to yourself? This is exactly what makes them bad 🤣 thats so many resources
dull night
i might just take death
In general for a new player prio survivability over power
dull night
"Just invest 3 rooms into them
And a keepsake, and a whole ass deity"
Are you li...
Im being sarcastic
primal trench
Ah
dull night
But I do think theyve got some value
Im just not seeking them out, but between that or 30 magic I know what im getting
primal trench
They can be good here and there, just like everything in roguelikes, but most of the time they are bad
primal trench
You dont have enough psyche yet?
dull night
They can be good here and there, just like everything in roguelikes, but most of...
Wdym? 200 damage wolf howl is bad vs a 4k hp boss?
fallen blade
i rarely sprint
dull night
TURN ON AUTOSPRINT
fallen blade
You dont have enough psyche yet?
i can't convince my ghosts
primal trench
Bruh
fallen blade
thhey hate me
dull night
Tbf its off by default
dull night
thhey hate me
Do you unplug your controller before trying
primal trench
Idk why, I dont like auto sprint
dull night
I say this with all the love and offense intended, how are you not getting those ghosts
primal trench
I dont like auto anything, I like to do stuff myself
fallen blade
thats why i suck?
tidal moss
Idk why, I dont like auto sprint
Same
fallen blade
I say this with all the love and offense intended, how are you not getting those...
don't underestimate my ability to suck
dull night
Its just holding down 1-2 buttons a few times
tidal moss
thats why i suck?
YOu seem to be struggling with everything in general
primal trench
Out of all the things to suck in the game, the tablet is one of the easiest things, is 2 butt9ns
dull night
You might be overthinking it
fallen blade
YOu seem to be struggling with everything in general
damn
dull night
Mel has a normal hand and a ghost hand
Its just an aesthetic choice, just hold the damn button
fallen blade
i keep forgettign that i need to look at mines