h2-for-new-players

[vivid flare]

Meant rarifies

[tidal moss]

Yeah thought so

[inland breach]

Is bone farming the fastest way to get moondust? I'm done with ash and psyche i think so that's the only thinng i have left to do for the arcana

[vivid flare]

You can also order them from Charon

And cook Shadow and Stardust into them (don't recommend doing the latter, though)

[split silo]

athena breaks it too i’m almost certain

[tidal moss]

She doesn't

[split silo]

hmm, i must’ve been mistaken then

[indigo quest]

Does ||chaos|| keepsake persist or only when equipped?

[scenic arrow]

#h2-tech-support

[terse condor]

Thank you! I’ll repost it.

[split silo]

the last ||curse/boon|| you get from it will persist after you take it off, but it won’t change

[wanton plover]

Can anyone explain what ||jeweled pom does aside from tha fact it gives you an early hades boon? ||

[jaunty anvil]

Yes. It feels the proper way to start a run.

[vivid flare]

||When you don't have the reroll cards selected and while you aren't using a god's keepsake to force their boons to spawn, you get +3 levels to all applicable boons when you pick them up, and a Hades boon||

[jaunty anvil]

Let the fates decide.

[inland breach]

also what do i do with excess ash and psyche

[vivid flare]

You maxed out your Mel Skull and staff, respectively?

[inland breach]

done on both

ngl kinda weird i havent been given their hidden aspects yet, i've had them on rank 5 for a while

[split silo]

you need a non Melinoe aspect at rank 5 to be given the hidden aspect now

[vivid flare]

Or 5 Nightmare invested. We're not really sure

[inland breach]

oh damn

that kinda makes sense actually

i got nergal immediately after raising charon to rank 5

btw does the athena keepsake count for fate's whim?

[vague crest]

It breaks it

[scenic arrow]

no it doesn't

[wanton plover]

what does wounds exactly do, cause I get how scorch work (damage bank ish)

like ut just gives you extra damage?

[vivid flare]

Extra base damage to the hit that applies it (this extra base damage is apparently considered Olympian damage)

[frigid tapir]

How do u see your base damage for attack, special, and cast?

[vivid flare]

Turn off Strength if you have it on, and hit Skelly

[wanton plover]

Is it just me or why do I find ||vow of rival eris|| easier XD

[vivid flare]

That's the common consensus

Unless you have no way of clearing the mines

[tight steppe]

I've completed enough ||oaths|| to get two ||nightmares||, why haven't they appeared in the broker's shop yet?

[scenic arrow]

or check the wiki, those values should be correct

(it's fandom, sorry)

[wanton plover]

got jumpscared by ||heracles with promoetheus|| almost lost haha

[leaden smelt]

Are you telling me I maxed my bond with artemis and || CANT INVITE HER TO TAKE A BATH TOGETHER? ||

[wanton plover]

what does||permium service do?, I dont get the aspect bonus rank||

[indigo quest]

Does luckier tooth only work when it's currently equipped or can you swap it out at next region and have its effect persist?

[wanton plover]

currently equipped only

[vivid flare]

So all your weapons have an aspect rank to them. This is basically your weapon's level. Premium Service lets you go beyond the normal max level of 5 and provides some increased benefit (sometimes dramatically increased)

[wanton plover]

oh got it, basically the level of the weapon

so it goes to level 6 even though I maxed a weapon already?

[vivid flare]

Yep

As some examples, rank 6 Mel Knives have +200% backstab damage compared to Rank 5's +100%. Momus rank 6 gets its turrets pulsing every second instead of every other second. Hidden Axe goes from 9 hits to activate its effect to 4 hits

[wanton plover]

what does remove scorch when inflicting freeze, like will the damage bank disappear or will it proc instantly?

[tall plover]

The amount of Scorch banked is multiplied and instantly fired and consumed.

So an enemy with 100 Scorch stacked will take 300 damage and no longer have any Scorch on them.

[deft zealot]

hey chronos dropped a golden ball next to his sand and i forgot to examine it, was that important or just his "corpse"

[fierce cobalt]

If I have aspect of melinoe maxed out but my aspect of thanatos isnt max can I still use thanatos to still unlock the hidden aspect

[trail blade]

Corpse. It doesn't do anything.

[vivid flare]

It gets a Homer line that says ||"yep that's his corpse"||

[trail blade]

No I think? Getting the HAs is pretty janky but I think in 1.0 it was changed to require a non-Mel aspect?

Max out Than axe and you definitely can get the HA (as long as you have unlocked every other axe aspect).

[long jewel]

Is there a benefit to ||having more fear than your oath target requires||?

[trail blade]

You can get some free loot at like ||10 or 12 fear in the final areas||, but otherwise no.

[long jewel]

Does the required amount rise over time?

[indigo quest]

Why is the fkin ||typhon eyeball|| the hardest boss in all the game for me

[trail blade]

For bounties? Yes. Up to 20. For the loot? Not AFAIK.

[long jewel]

Gotcha, thanks.

[trail blade]

It's stationary and melts fast if you have good Cast/OCast stuff in my experience.

[serene silo]

Hi guys, mind if i ask, the "Melinoe, Remember Us" prophecy already has a tick for completion but i cant claim the prophecy reward. Is this intended?

[indigo quest]

Does Artificer arcana make fates wil not work?

[vivid flare]

Nah, it's not a reroll

[trail blade]

Spoilers! But no.

[indigo quest]

Lmao why does ||Nemesis|| always take ||the best doors||

[vivid flare]

Because ||she wants the best rewards for her runs :3||

[cerulean anvil]

and because ||you haven't bonded with her yet so she's willing to get in your way||

[indigo quest]

||I have maxed out bond.||

[cerulean anvil]

oh. well, she's just trolling you then

[wise locust]

Think fast!

[wanton plover]

hello, does ||Jeweled pom effects mean that every time i level up a boon, it's more levels? ||

or does it mean when i pick a boon, it has increased level?

[tidal moss]

Boons start at +4 level, regardless of rarity

[wanton plover]

does the effect stay if i change my keepsake?

[tidal moss]

Yes

[wanton plover]

wow that's strong

[tidal moss]

It is yes

[wise reef]

What do the || moon phases || in my inventory mean?

[scenic arrow]

I presume you are talking about the moon phases that come with your hex

your Hex choice, depending on the moon phase associated with it, will gain more upgrade points when you upgrade it for the first time

[carmine sapphire]

only if you don’t take god keepsakes, but yes

[vivid flare]

The phase of the moon that you see from the training grounds or in your inventory determines the shape of the Path of Stars you have for your Hex that night, allegedly

[scenic arrow]

wha

[vivid flare]

I don't think they were referring to Moonglow, because there's a couple ways you can track the moon's phase in-game

One of which is in the inventory menu

[scenic arrow]

never knew that

[shy zephyr]

it doesn't, speedcord code divers debunked it

[vivid flare]

Ah, then it's just flavor and a dropped thread

[shy zephyr]

it's literally just aesthetic

[vivid flare]

Glares at all the other dropped threads

[wanton plover]

does ||athena boon break it?||

[true dagger]

are u suppose to be able to use ur like magic moves when its at 0?

[carmine sapphire]

haven’t tried for myself, but i read it does

[vivid flare]

You are not, with an exception made for if you have Born Gain

[true dagger]

im using the witches staff and im able to do it with the like attack heavy but everything else doesnt work with the magic attack

[vivid flare]

Like, the big line that hits in front and behind you?

Did you grab the hammer that makes your Attacks hit twice but cost mana?

[true dagger]

eh i forgot ngl is there a way i can check

[vivid flare]

There's a menu that pulls up all your boons you have in a run. Should be left on the D-pad by default for controller, and I have no clue on KBM

[true dagger]

yea i can see my boons but i dont have it

i took a video of it

i cant post it here tho

i posted it in tech support maybe im tripping

[vivid flare]

Yeah, definitely a bug

[pseudo sluice]

Anyone else doesn't agree that Hades 2 story is weaker than Hades 1? Idk if it's an unpopular opinion but I've been enjoying the story a lot more on H2, it feels like there's a lot more at stake and the threat is bigger

[cerulean anvil]

how far are you into the story?

[pseudo sluice]

Not finished it yet, have beat underworld boss around 7 times and gotten to final boss on surface twice

[cerulean anvil]

Good luck

[silk knoll]

Does moon effect planting?

[cerulean anvil]

||most people think the story falls apart at the ending specifically||

[hexed ore]

Hey so did my first full run, still can't beat the surface, should i try right away to use fear even if i didn't clear with each weapon? I remember in hades 1 needing to clear with each weapon

[indigo quest]

Omg, just got Judgement Arcana from Circe, most OP thing ever lol

[blissful spruce]

What are the conditions for ||the pact of punishment to appear in Charon's shop ? Usually I get it in the first region, but it definitely also appears in others as well.||

[indigo quest]

Wow free Judgement is insane!

[wise reef]

Ah so we still dont know what it does

I thought itd effect resource spawns or something lol

[stiff hawk]

If I take heph keepsake but for whatever reason dont use its rarify ability in that Region, will I still be able in next Region if I switch keepsakes?

[elfin granite]

nope

[cunning goblet]

For recycling service can I recycle resources with no “needed resources” tag? Does it consider future incantations/upgrades?

[elfin granite]

Yep.

[cyan mauve]

Holy fl why does everything in olympus have so much health 😭😭😭 the ||tail||

[woven sentinel]

LITERALLY, the first time I went through was terrifying

[broken hound]

i've recently unlocked Toula but i'm finding the sleep mechanic difficult to understand - she seems to fall back asleep almost immediately after waking her if there's no enemies immediately nearby, which is getting cumbersome in act 3 where the levels are huge. any advice on keeping her active?

[alpine widget]

How do i get the hidden aspect for the torches

Its the only one im missing

[alpine widget]

My advice is that you shouldn't be relying on the animal companions for the damage

[shy zephyr]

in fields she teleports to you whenever you start an encounter

[shy zephyr]

she deals decent damage

[broken hound]

👍 ah good to know, thanks very much

[alpine widget]

Yeah i know but you yourself can deal even more damage

So splitting your attention to trying to wake her up will inevitably be a loss in dps and possibly even take damage you shouldnt have

[frigid tapir]

hjow to unlock auto-gathering of resources?

[indigo quest]

||familiars||

[frigid tapir]

are gemstones just for trading in for kudos?

[shy zephyr]

have gathered one of every reagent and 24 different fish types and have collected a ton of every resource type, like around the 100 for rocks and flowers and 50 for fish

[shy zephyr]

he's talking about ||the greatest gift of gaia||

[frigid tapir]

thansk guys. btw is shadow extraction the only way to get shadow?

how do u guys use spoiler block btw

[shy zephyr]

put || on both sides on the part you want to spoiler mark

[shy zephyr]

copy this message and paste it somewhere to see how i did it

[vapid pawn]

I got it just after maxing all my familiars lvl. Anothers friend also got it just after doing this.
Maybe there is more requirment

[sullen current]

does anyone have tips for beating ||the mini boss with the gun on the boat||? the bouncing shots are really hard for me to track and 15 damage a hit kills so fast

I finally figured out the ||cyclops|| and now I’ve died to that mini boss two runs in a row

[stiff hawk]

how were you fighting against that pirate guy?

[sullen current]

I kept trying to get near him for damage but then get away again so I’d have space to dodge the bombs and bullets, but I just don’t have the damage to kill him before I fail to dodge enough bullets. I have yet to get a build on the surface I thought was half decent, idk what I’m doing wrong

[winged scroll]

Hello 😄
so i have now around 70 hours with a new save in 1.0 and cleared around 80 nights but still can't get the dialogue from ||moros ||about ||the hidden aspect supay||. is it bugged or am i missing something? ||i do have the other three weapons maxed and did unlock all the other hidden aspects a long time ago.||

[deft turret]

Chat is there a secret boss in this game, like ||charon in hades1||

[elfin granite]

Yes.

[deft turret]

Is it post-ending or can u find it anytime

[elfin granite]

post-ending

[obtuse prairie]

What are / where do you find ||S-Scales||?

[elfin granite]

||surface|| region 4

[fast linden]

hey i am trying to unlock aspect of ||supay|| right now but moros doesnt give me the waking phrase (i have one torch on 5 and all unlocked) he just gives me one line filler dialoges any ideas on how to fix this? feels like a bug

[shy zephyr]

does the maxed out torch happen to be mel torch?

[fast linden]

yes

[vivid sundial]

do you have a maxed out aspect that requires || nightmare ||

[shy zephyr]

you need ||to have invested 5 nightmare into the weapon||

[fast linden]

ah thx

[dense anchor]

does anyone have tips for ||unrivalled prometheus||?

[vivid sundial]

is there something specific you struggle with?

[dense anchor]

idk how to keep my attention focused on both of their attacks at the same time

[fast linden]

i just got it!

[shy zephyr]

one is always in aggressive mode, the other is in supportive mode, they swap after 17ish seconds and their moveset changes depending on which mode they're in

[dense anchor]

tbh I think I just need to switch back to ||DDs instead of strength||

[dense anchor]

how do you tell? they both felt aggressive to me lol

and I didn't unlock the trial for them even though it worked for ||rivals scylla||

[shy zephyr]

you notice how sometimes ||prom|| will chill back and throw fire waves at you while ||heracles|| follows you around

or ||prom|| will follow you around while ||herc|| fires waves at you and goes spiiiiin

[dense anchor]

hmm I see

btw can you confirm if there is a trial for ||rivals prometheus||?

[shy zephyr]

not every UR fight has one

[winged scroll]

i did that a long time ago but still can't get it.

[dense anchor]

lowly times 😔

[inland breach]

Is there a specific trigger for ||encountering Zagreus? Do I need to be at Fates' Whim? Feels like in the past 10 runs I've only seen him twice||

[strange patio]

Question about Chaos' trinket

if I change trinkets, does the last chaos boon gained from it stay

ok nvm it stays on

[void cairn]

How do you get more testaments?

[simple nexus]

Dude, death to Cronos

7 hours passed without even me noticing the passage of time since I started playing

[polar laurel]

There's only 48, you don't get extras. Complete more by turning up the fear

[void cairn]

Its blank

I completed 2, then 1, its on 3 but blank

[polar laurel]

Now that's weird

Might have something to do with never reaching the boss it wants? Idk

[void cairn]

well thats stupid

[quasi epoch]

Blank in what way?

[void cairn]

ive done 3, its on 3 at the top, there are no additional choices to select one

[quasi epoch]

You mean where it says like 3/48 above the testament box?

[void cairn]

Yes

On the weapon/boss selection there is nothing

[quasi epoch]

Its not telling you how many ranks of fear you need and what boss for the weapon?

[void cairn]

No, the boss/weapon selection is blank

I did act 1 once, act 2 boss twice with different weapons, cleared it, now nothing

[quasi epoch]

Have you full cleared both areas?

[void cairn]

yes lol, killed chronos twice since it went blank

[quasi epoch]

And ||typhon||?

[void cairn]

No

Still going through story I guess

[oak tendon]

what should i spend my bonedust in?

[void cairn]

You would think it would be restricted to lower tasks early on though?

are the testaments predetermined? or random

[quasi epoch]

That might be why. Because the board picks bosses from both regions.

[latent dock]

tf is bonedust TT, its either bones or moondust u mean

[oak tendon]

oh, bones

i havent played in a while idk why i assumed that was the name lol

[latent dock]

take a look at the broker, he can give u alot of stuff for them

[oak tendon]

but which are good deals?

for instance i dont feel nightmares are that hard to get

but that may just be me not being aware of other things

[latent dock]

depeends on what u need, nectar for me is the best since im far in the story. if u need moondust or smth else then use them for it. just keep upgrading stuff yk

[cosmic burrow]

None. There are only “necessary” deals. So you’d only bother with bones for items you require, ie. specifically only x3 moondust to upgrade a specific arcana.

[oak tendon]

ok

thanks

[quasi epoch]

Nectar, Ambrosia, or Nightmare are my go-tos for what're im at just because it cuts down on runs and I get a lot of bone since I always chase grave thirst

[cosmic burrow]

To confirm about weapons, ||their hidden aspect dialogue becomes available after rank 5 of a non-Melinoë aspect? To be sure it doesn’t trigger on Melinoë upgrades which don’t require nightmare||

[quasi epoch]

Correct.

[latent dock]

without the hidden ones there are 2 in total no ?

for each weapon

[quasi epoch]

||You have to have one of the two that require nightmare at 5 now to trigger the hidden phrase, melinoe doesn't count as of 1.0||

[latent dock]

|| oh, i was asking cuz i maxed everything since EA and i didnt know they were hidden XD||

[quasi epoch]

Also one quick note, ||hidden torches cant be your first. Have to have at least one other hidden first||

[quasi epoch]

Yea. Theres melinoe +2 + hidden per weapon. ||hidden now requires one of the +2 to be at 5 before the person will give you the hidden phrase. It got changed with 1.0||

[sly linden]

I got my first surface win yesterday. Umbrel Flames with Poseidon and a lot of attack + omega attack buffs. Felt good. Nice 21 minute run

[serene mist]

Just unlocked || argent skull || for the first time. I need some builds for the weapon!

[sly linden]

Boss 2 and 3 of surface are way harder than final boss too

[vivid flare]

Apollo or Hera attack

[carmine sapphire]

melinoe skull? i like aphro just spamming square

[weary tartan]

wide grin oattack build 🗣️ 🔥

[vivid flare]

They still haven't made it work with the aspect bonus

[weary tartan]

lmao

tbf if they just unlocked it

[elfin granite]

wait what?

[weary tartan]

prob doesn't matter too much

[polar laurel]

I'm guessing they mean Mel aspect

[vivid flare]

Mel Skull's aspect bonus is attack power for every spent shell

Wide Grin empties the entire mag all at once, but the bonus is tracked at the time of firing and not the time of impact

[lofty lotus]

so i cant really figure out how to [properly use moros

boons aside how do i time my attacks to hit the orbiters

[vivid flare]

It's mostly a range thing, they tend to stop around the point that the OSpecial orbits. Or on hitting an enemy

[lofty lotus]

sems a bit clunky at first glance

[vivid flare]

It has a slight learning curve, but the damage is well worth it

[lofty lotus]

what god to start with

[vivid flare]

Zeus

[lofty lotus]

hera for the born gain maybe?

[vivid flare]

Hera will also be good for both that and Fine Line

[weary tartan]

it's generally just ospecial -> holding down attack until ospecial runs out tbh

[vivid flare]

And then get Poseidon in for Ocean Swell and Ripple Effect

[weary tartan]

I like being able to start with a gain on moros personally, but that's just me

[vivid flare]

You play Moros and Mel torches almost the exact same, it's just that Moros has better damage

[lofty lotus]

what am i looking for on zeus

[north oasis]

Guys I reached the 3rd area and when I died I reset to the 1st area, how do I go back to the 3rd one?

[lofty lotus]

u go again

[north oasis]

I have to fight the bosses again?

[vivid flare]

Blitz on the attack because you can pop it for bonus damage with Arc Flash

[vivid flare]

Yes? That's how this genre works

[shy zephyr]

yes that's how roguelite games work

[abstract obsidian]

q) While doing Chaos Trials, Oaths are disabled. Correct?

[north oasis]

Wait wtf seriously? how am I supposed to beat it then

[shy zephyr]

depends on the trials, some have a few specific vows enabled

[trail cairn]

glad to see that the "load your proyectile into your attack" aspect is amazing here too

[shy zephyr]

practice makes perfect

[north oasis]

bro im sorry but u cant heal at all and u have to reset to the start if u die once? cmon theres gotta be a work around right

[vivid flare]

You get better at playing the game from run to run, you start learning what's good to pick, and you start getting unlocks that make you better from run to run

[vivid flare]

The work-around is "get better at playing" :3

[shy zephyr]

there are plenty of ways to heal, you'll get way stronger as you progress and you'll generally get better at the game

[weary tartan]

you also get permanent upgrades as you progress through the game and unlock stuff

[dire patio]

there are several ways to heal

[weary tartan]

what night are you on? there's an early game keepsake that can help with this

(and late game now that it goes through scars ig)

[vivid flare]

Yeah, Pin :3

[north oasis]

I keep dying to maegra and the one time I beat her I reached the dragon boss and I died

[vivid flare]

That's Hades 1, this is the sequel's channels

[weary tartan]

#h1-for-new-players :)

[north oasis]

Chat is dead there

[vivid flare]

Revive it, then

[weary tartan]

dead there? there's messages there from like an hour ago

[lofty lotus]

is it just me or is aspect of selemne nothing special?

[elfin granite]

Well, duh. It's the underworld. 😛

[vivid flare]

It's solid now that the Godsent on it doesn't force you to take the keepsake region 1, and can let you start Moon Beam again

[lofty lotus]

so how do i build it

[vivid flare]

Start with Selene keepsake to get your upgrades early, find ||Ares or equip his keepsake second region||

[silk mason]

Aspect of Selene is great when paired with keepsake. Fully upgraded hex can shred

[lofty lotus]

i guess for moros if i get hestia im looking for cardio gain ya

[vivid flare]

Nah, you'd want a Scorch boon to open up Thermal Dynamics

[lofty lotus]

zeus hestia mind you

[vivid flare]

Precisely

[lofty lotus]

i got zeus special so do i take smolder ring or roll for attack

[vivid flare]

Smolder Ring will work, yeah

Then aim for Hera Attack

[lofty lotus]

is auto shoot god for moros

[vivid flare]

You already auto-fire with it

[inner notch]

Does the ||Infernal Contract|| respawn if you skip it?

[vivid flare]

Yeah, it can spawn in the next midshop

Though I do suggest doing it sooner rather than later, since it'll ||put a free item in every shop if you win||

[inner notch]

I don't feel strong enough atm, but I'll keep that in mind

[deft turret]

If u pick black night banishment from circe does it still count to the fear level

[vivid flare]

Yes

Also, it can't turn off Rivals

[sly linden]

So regarding Fear and doing Fear runs for nightmare
Those don't change the bosses, correct? They're the same boss, same attacks except they drop Nightmare instead of their regular drop?
Vow of Rivals is what changes the bosses since they're Extreme Measures

[pearl sand]

basically

[sly linden]

Ok figured cool

[pearl sand]

they will get more health, attack/move speed from those vows

but only rivals changes the actual fights

[sly linden]

Yeah right rightn

Ohhhh

Ok I got you. Cool thanks

[vivid flare]

Drop Nightmare in addition to their regular drop, but yes

[sly linden]

Right because you're adding 20% more dmg from enemies ect

[sly linden]

Oh both even better

[pearl sand]

yeah, they're universal. wards also apply to bosses

[quasi epoch]

It'll drop both their normal drop + nightmare and if youre doing grave thirst + gems too. 3 drops.

[sly linden]

Yeah ok right like Hades 1 heat runs without EM applied

[pearl sand]

yup

[sly linden]

Obvious in retrospect but thanks appreciate it

[sly linden]

Oh awesome great to know

[lofty skiff]

Hey! Am i the only one that thinks the dash feels kind of clunky when there is a difference between holding A (im on gamepad) and tapping A?
I got heatrush right now and If i Hold Dash in the Dash animation (the one that gives me the IFrame) and then release just before the animation ends, i get a firepool.
Now if i just tap A once and release inside of the Dash animation i get the same amount of IFrames, the same Distance but i dont get a firepuddle under me.
I guess this is intended but it feels kind of... off to me? any takers? 😄

[frigid tapir]

how is making a boon heroic different from just leveling up? seems the same

[elfin granite]

rarity gives bigger increases than levels

also, some boons can't be leveled at all, but still have rarities

[vivid flare]

Rarifying is usually equal to 2 poms' worth of upgrades

[lofty lotus]

so its my first time using the aspect of selene and the keepsake, what do i upgrade

[vivid flare]

What's on offer?

[lofty lotus]

i think i changed my mind imma restart go apollo for lucid gain hopefully and do a cast hex build with whatever the poseidon omega is called

[vivid flare]

Rule of thumb with mooncoat is that you want to build around the Hex and get it online as fast as possible, so again, what was on offer?

[lofty lotus]

brilliance and sting first

[vivid flare]

IIRC, Sting is pretty solid. That's the "Omega moves also fire off a beam" node, right?

Oh, wait, you mean literally in order, Sting is just damage

I meant "what are your blues and purples"

[lofty lotus]

calm ambition prism cascade

[vivid flare]

Prism is the triple hit, right? That one's the best upgrade to find

[lofty lotus]

got it had just enough but whats the best way to quickly get it online

[vivid flare]

Generally, you spam missiles

[next nebula]

how to unlock aspects of the same weapon like in the first game?

[vivid flare]

I forget if it's just "unlock the first 4 weapons" or you need Hecate dialogue

[next nebula]

i have the first staff, the double dagger, the second staff, and the axe

theres 1 more i can unlock tho so maybe that

[knotty shore]

I wish the game had some sort of flow chart/tree of what duo boons or legendary boons you can still get (or which you are locked out of) as you progress. As a new player I have to constantly alt tab between chrome tabs etc. I guess it would be possible to make a website to do this...

[vivid flare]

Nah, I got the incantation before unlocking the grenade launcher

[next nebula]

just play the game lol

[vivid flare]

It does, but you have to unlock it first

[lofty lotus]

gotta beat her with multiple weps

[next nebula]

ok

[scenic arrow]

there is but it takes a while to get

[lofty lotus]

stupid question but how often am i supposed to be online, iot seems realluy slow and the rockets deal miserable dmg

[next nebula]

anybody knows if u should go to the overworld or underworld?

[scenic arrow]

online?

[scenic arrow]

you need to do both like 5 times each for ending

[knotty shore]

are you guys talking about the menu/book of each god? I have that but it's not really a great format imo

[next nebula]

im talking in terms of whats better

for progressing overall

[scenic arrow]

uhh idk I think you need both relatively evenly

[next nebula]

so they both give resources equally?

[knotty shore]

If you guys played Age of Empires, thats the kind of tree I was hoping for

[scenic arrow]

they have different resources, you'll need some from both

[knotty shore]

it makes it visual and quick to see the dependencies

[scenic arrow]

too late game is done, the best we're getting now is some balance patches

[next nebula]

im talking about ashes and the green one and purple one

[scenic arrow]

yeah for that your route doesn't matter

take the frog for more green

[next nebula]

also why the hell do i lose hp in the overworld

[scenic arrow]

cuz you didn't do the quest and incantation yet

[next nebula]

how to do this

[scenic arrow]

you need to do deathruns for moss, then talk to chaos for a seed

[next nebula]

deathruns?

chaos boon that gives a seed?

[scenic arrow]

suicide runs on the surface, I think they spawn a bunch of moss in the first couple rooms

no you just talk to chaos and they'll eventually give you a seed to plan

[next nebula]

so to go to the surface safely, i must go the the surface dangerously

[scenic arrow]

no gain without pain

[next laurel]

i posted a pic in #h2-victory-boasting if anyone can help me

it seems to be the only channel i can post pictures

[vagrant token]

do i have to go out of my way to somehow find the fates or does that happen as part of the true ending?

[lofty lotus]

hey how common are duo boons, have been trying to find thermal dynamics for like 3 runs all the way up to chronos and couldnt find it

[elfin granite]

they're pretty rare

[frigid tapir]

can you just jump to max fear for a weapon and collect all the skulls in one run?

[next laurel]

it is part of the main storyline

just keep playing the game and trying to save the underworld

[elfin granite]

no

[hollow lion]

If I buy Divinity, will that automatically disable The Queen?
||https://imgur.com/a/BOe8J6N||
Since I have 5 in a column that would activate Divinity which would mean I have 3 cards with the same grasp cost, 0, and that would go against the condition for The Queen.

[elfin granite]

No, 0-cost cards don't count towards any limitations for other 0-cost cards.

[quasi epoch]

Its specifically the 1-5 cards.

[hollow lion]

would be nice if the game said that, instead of what it actually says

also, what is 'most enemies'?

[quasi epoch]

In regards to what?

[hollow lion]

there is a boon that, I think, says something like 'most enemies projectiles move x% slower'

[stiff hawk]

Hi everyone, this might sounds stupid but does it matter which doors I take in terms ammount of encounters I will have before boss? For example I'm under impression that whilr claiming mountain if I take doors instead of mountains circle I might have more encounters, hope that makes sense

[hollow lion]

also also, how long is 'momentarily' in The Messengers 'Your Casts momentarily make you Impervious and move 50%'?

[frigid tapir]

what are the easiest oaths to take?

[hollow lion]

Here, it's Hermes' Hard Target boon:

Most foes' ranged shots are slower.
What do they mean 'most'?

The Swift Runner uses the same wording:

Your Sprint is 5% faster and lets you pass through most foes in your way
What does that mean? Why can't they just clearly state what this does? Did they run out of letters?

[quasi epoch]

Couple of abilities just cant be slowed because of how they function.

[quasi epoch]

Its worded exactly how its meant to, because there are some very specific enemies you cant pass through.

[hollow lion]

that cleared exactly nothing up. So what are these exceptions?

the vague descriptions of these effects are the reason why I have picked them exactly 0 times so far.

[elfin granite]

Understandable, but it's not like they can list every single exception in the boon description.

[winged lark]

most shots are most shots, hecate little transformative ball is slowed for exemple

[autumn flare]

The huntress doesn't affect omega attacks or specials right?

[winged lark]

the pass through most foes is dumb anyways, the only viable thing in that boon is the extra sprint to go extra fast

[hollow lion]

but give me something. Before a moment ago I didn't know whether 'most' meant that the game just rolls a random value on every enemy that spawns that determines that this enemy is or is not effected by this boon / card rather than it being fixed enemies / attacks.
just give me some brought descriptions:
enemies projectiles are 30% slower except for boss attacks
you can pass through all non stationary enemies
etc... whatever the categories are

[winged lark]

all balls are slowed, that I know

[quasi epoch]

Correct. Only basic attacks and specials.

[elfin granite]

The thing, as far as I understand, is that the "most" isn't there for balancing reasons. So, it's not like the devs made a category of enemies that are immune to it and can be neatly distinguished.

[winged lark]

hades is a beautiful story of try and see

nothing can be bad about a slowed projectile

just take it and see!

[scarlet widget]

Semi-lategame question? I have a question in regards to some resources. Specifically ||Gemstones|| I have ton and ||have yet to see them in any recipes.|| My question is ||Shoud I save them or are they specifically for turning in for soul currency||

[winged lark]

Pretty sure|| it's only for the kudos||

[elfin granite]

Gemstones are traded for Kudos. (Pretty sure their description in the pouch says that?)

[tall kernel]

Does saluting do anything useful? Unlocks? Anything?

[winged lark]

just fun

[elfin granite]

no

[hollow lion]

with everything going on I don't think I could notice when a projectile is moving 30% slower. Sure the boon would help without me noticing it, but I would not be able to build up any knowledge on what is and isn't effected by it.

[winged lark]

I assure you, you will notice

[hollow lion]

I play a run, maybe 2 a day. You could show me any projectile at 5 different speeds in increments of 30% and I would not be able to tell you which is the baseline speed.

[winged lark]

you would be able

just take it!

[void cairn]

Are strikes considered weapon attacks only?

[winged lark]

yes, pretty sure

[winged lark]

just try and get it before hecate and see the little transform ball slow

[elfin granite]

no, specials count too (and the tooltip that pops-up should confirm that... or refute it)

[void cairn]

dang really?

was wondering about the dual wand special

[elfin granite]

if it was only attacks, it would say attacks 🤓

[void cairn]

and zeus chain lightning, one says "strikes"

[elfin granite]

yeah, cause that one counts specials too

[winged lark]

because it WILL slow

wow, bad wifi

[rapid nebula]

hey guys does schelemius keepsake count as a death defiance? like if i got a boon that makes my death defiance trigger something will it trigger off schelemeius keepsake

[quasi epoch]

That'll trigger on attacks, specials, and omegas for both.

[elfin granite]

Yes.

[rapid nebula]

ok so i got the witch medea thing that makes enemy lose 15% hp on death defiance

and that will work? 100% with skelemius?

[elfin granite]

Yes.

[rapid nebula]

thx

[rapid nebula]

one more question for moon boon from selene it says death defiance effects fully recharge if hex isnt ready, so if i got 2 dd's from my arcana i can just dd infinitely? if my hex is on cooldown

[elfin granite]

Read that again. 😛

Death Defiance recharges your hex. Not the other way round.

[rapid nebula]

ooooh 😭 no wonder that sounded so op

[trail cairn]

any recomendations for ||the surface||? builds would also be appreciated

[vivid flare]

Torch specials are considered strikes like all other specials, yes

[vivid flare]

I have a recommendation

[trail cairn]

yes?

[vivid flare]

@vivid flare

[trail cairn]

?

[shy zephyr]

use the strength card

it's one of your arcana, bottom row, third from the left

[trail cairn]

i have strength already

[orchid spoke]

I'd recommend Burning Island if your goal is to just clear surface

[indigo quest]

Why was Strength nerfed to 40%, should be 45%

[orchid spoke]

1. Take glamor gain and either Aphro attack/special
2. Take any scorch application
3. Get both Burning Desire (Hestia x Aphro) and Island Getaway (Poseidon x Aphro)
4. Enemies will now be permanently inflicted w Scorch once hit w Scorch, slowly losing 100 hp/sec till death
5. The rate can be increased with any global/olympian damage additive % or Pyro Technique

[shy zephyr]

it's island getaway and it's the aphro poseidon duo bruh

[orchid spoke]

These name changes will be the death of me

[deft turret]

How do u upgrade familiars

Also I can't seem to find the last 2

[trail cairn]

i'll try this, thanks

[last swan]

When a keepsake says you can “rarify” the boons once… how??

[shy zephyr]

right click

[orchid spoke]

If I'm remembering correctly I think you need to unlock/do Chaos Trials for the incantation to unlock, then just take the treats and walk over to them in the training room

As for the last two locked behind a Hecate dialogue

[last swan]

On switch?

[orchid spoke]

It should show whatever button it's binded to on the bottom left of boon selection

[shy zephyr]

look at the bottom of the screen, if you have rarify available it should show you the button

[deft turret]

I can't seem to find the bird, but apparently people get it earlier than the dog?

[shy zephyr]

the bird is in the erebus fountain room

[deft turret]

Oh, uh I never seem to run into the fountain room 😭

Is it just bad luck or is there a way to guarantee ts

[orchid spoke]

No way to guarantee it but the keepsake from Underworld region 2 npc will increase the chances

[shy zephyr]

???

||phial|| increases fountain room chance?

[orchid spoke]

Yeah it's a hidden mechanic

[shy zephyr]

crazy

[deft turret]

I thought it just upgrades boon and restores more hp

[orchid spoke]

SG loves doing things behind the scenes 🤷

[deft turret]

Do we have a number for the chance increase?

[orchid spoke]

I'm not knowledgeable enough ab the code to know that srry 😔

[vivid flare]

It was 50% prior to the nerf

[deft turret]

But ur absolutely certain thats a feature?

It's not just some collective misconception

[orchid spoke]

Can't talk ab it much bc server rules here but yeah we do have reliable sources

[deft turret]

Alr

[rough dirge]

Hi, I used to pet two cute animals in the middle of the crossroads. There was some text that they were sent to run free in the forest for a bit... but it's been 20+ nights! Do they come back?

Thanks! 👍

[indigo quest]

They do but you need beast morsels to tame them.

[modern dust]

How much harder is increasing the heat up till like 12 maybe? So far I have gotten 10 wins, but most of them were 1-2 heat max (trying to clear testaments and not go too overboard with the heat)

[orchid spoke]

I can make a fear setup for you rq but quick question: do you struggle with bosses or regular enemy encounters more?

[modern dust]

Maybe bosses

[indigo quest]

Yeah I'm looking for the easiest 12 fear setup too

[orchid spoke]

Then this is prob the easiest setup I can think of:
https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMCwxLDAsMCwwLDIsNSwwLDAsMiwwLDAsMCwyLDAsMF0=

If you want you can swap fangs out for menace 2, timer 1 and hordes 2

[shy zephyr]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMCwxLDAsMCwzLDAsMCwxLDAsMCwwLDMsMCwyLDIsMF0=

I'd probably do this

fangs2 isn't a joke

[polar laurel]

-1 fangs
+2 time

[polar laurel]

for this

time 2 is extremely easy in hades 2

[orchid spoke]

Yeah this would work too, just be careful of denial: always check codex and make sure you have an eligible boon so you don't get a forced sacrifice

[polar laurel]

what do yall do for fun play

for me time 2, rivals 3, shadow 1, menace 2, fangs 2

ive heard some people like frenzy but for me it just frustrates me

[orchid spoke]

I can never leave frenzy now bc I've trained my muscle memory for it, turning it off results in me playing worse bc I dodge too early 💀

Generally I just do rivals 4 and max frenzy for fun
*+denial if I want very specific boons and don't care ab infusion, but most of the time without it

[abstract obsidian]

Q) Does Morph work on Scylla's adds?

[polar laurel]

the hex damages the backup, probably just kills the summons in final phase outright

[shy zephyr]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMCwwLDYsMywzLDEsNSwwLDAsMiwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMTJd

my 32 fun run

this is easy for me because i regularly play +50 fear runs i do not recommend this to newer players

[polar laurel]

seems fair enough

i dont really enjoy rivals 4 tho

probably a skill issue tho, and ive started practicing them again

[shy zephyr]

i love it in underworld, it's ||meh on the surface|| but I'll eventually have to learn it so i may as well keep it on

[abstract obsidian]

Q) I am having a hard time with Trial of Haste - am I doing something wrong?

[abstract obsidian]

Q) I have killed ||Chronus|| and ||Father of all monsters|| , a couple of times... and also completed all Chaos Trials... but do I just have to keep repeatedly killing them to progress the story? I know the "end game" is too play with high Vows and clear times, but I am not THAT hardcore. What is the "semi" end-game here?

[tall plover]

||You're looking for ingredients for the two end-game Incantations "Dissolution of Time" and "Disintegration of Monstrosity". You'll get the ingredients as you get more Underworld and surface clears, yes.||

[upbeat sedge]

Just gotta go fast?

[orchid spoke]

Do not use any omegas and try to get the Poseidon x Apollo duo (beach ball)

General gameplay loop should be sprint --> dash attack --> special --> repeat

Make sure aspect and familiar are also maxed out + golden bough incantation to locate rewards/doors quickly

[upbeat sedge]

Idk i use o special frequently on coat and it seems fine

[orchid spoke]

The trial in question is a staff trial w Mirrored Thrasher and Flood Gain

[upbeat sedge]

Wait wtf

Am I stupid...

5 min timer trial is staff?

[indigo quest]

Why does the fated choice options show what i haven't picked yet for people like Circe and shows up with others, hard to keep track that way

[modern dust]

I have about 10-12 nightmares saved up because I got no idea which weapon is my favorite and am afraid of wasting it.

Can someone give me some advice on which aspect for each weapon actually gets really strong the more you upgrade it compared to those that are good at low ranks already not requiring much investments?

[lean terrace]

pan or morrigan?

[tall plover]

The Morrigan.

[lean terrace]

nice

its looks so much more cool

[tall plover]

It genuinely is really sick.

[lean terrace]

im trying to unlock it, i have all the aspects lvl 5, now i just gotta find artemis right?

[tall plover]

I believe so, yes.

[lean terrace]

im asking cause the wiki already did me wrong when i was trying to get my familiars

thanks

[broken cliff]

so I tried doing the thing where I bring a non level 5 aspect to the namesake person to get the unlock, and it doesn't go through, even if I invested 5 n-mares on the aspect

[trail harness]

can someone explain how blitz and wound work? can blitz just be reapplied over and over as it procs? is wound 3 second cool down per enemy?

[vivid flare]

Blitz can't be reapplied on an enemy until the proc animation finishes. And yes for Wounds

[trail harness]

so is wound basically first hit on each enemy deals more, and the bonus damage from the boon always applies?

seems similar to heph blast to me

[vivid flare]

Yes

It's kinda like mini Heph blasts

[trail harness]

ty

does hitch only work on multiple enemies or does it do something against bosses

[pearl sand]

it counts as a curse, but if it's not linked to anything, there's no shared damage

[trail harness]

also how do i see people on reddit talk about such specific builds? do they use multiple of the boon keepsakes in one night to get everything lined up?

[pliant quest]

You also get 10 dice to reroll boons

With the bottom left arcana corner

[indigo quest]

I wanting to like the Axe Charon aspect but always using omega special really sets you up to get hit

[verbal rivet]

Stay farther away. You just have to hit the cast (at any distance) with one of the explosions

[autumn flare]

Olympic keepsakes won't guarantee the type of an olympic boon? Eg. if I have the aphrodite mirror I can very well just get poseidon in first room?

[verbal rivet]

And/Or get Eternity arcana

[verbal rivet]

It’s high odds to get the boon from the keepsake god. Not sure exact number but feels like 80-90% in first room

[pliant quest]

No, they will, but some runs (early ones in particular) will put a specific starting boon.
There's also the possibility, but that's more for later biomes, that the first room does not give you an Olympian boon, but when you're offered one it will appear as an option.

[autumn flare]

I was aware of the behaviour in h1 where you wouldn't necessarily get the olympic boon immediately, but when you got it it would be the keepsake

[verbal rivet]

https://imgur.com/iWcnZvW#iWcnZvW here’s a big guide

[autumn flare]

But this behaviour in h2 is new to me and so far ultra annoying

I've been getting poseidon many times in room 1 for a build I don't want poseidon to be a part of

[dense anchor]

wait I can't acces imgur in the UK? you've got to be joking

[autumn flare]

And I can't dodge it because can't even reroll the first room

Frankly infuriating

[pliant quest]

Are you giving up and restarting?

[autumn flare]

No separate runs and seeds

This one happened just now but it happened yesterday as well

[pliant quest]

I have no clue what's happening then, especially if it's separate runs

[indigo quest]

Where is a link to that? Fuzzy pic can't read text

[pliant quest]

Because having a different God keepsake should ensure you see that one

[autumn flare]

I mean I eventually see the keepsake god

In this run it happened in the second room

[verbal rivet]

There should be a link in the message

[autumn flare]

But can't dodge uncle poseidon when he wants to be in your build :(

[spring anchor]

are fish only for selling?

[autumn flare]

Yes, you'll get the option to sell them later xD

[dense anchor]

can you link the full guide? it seems pretty interesting

[spring anchor]

oki ty !

[autumn flare]

I don't really get the point of getting the fishing pole and not immediately giving the player the possibility to actually do something with the fish you catch, but maybe that's just me

[indigo quest]

Awesome, now I need more guides!

[dense anchor]

there is something you can do with the fish after a run

[autumn flare]

Nope, you have to unlock that ability in the cauldron

I had like three runs without the abilty to unlock it while my fish were piling up

[dense anchor]

I don't see the problem

[pearl sand]

just leaves you with a stock to use later 🤷‍♂️

[dense anchor]

that's the most non-issue ever

[pearl sand]

i just hate fishing so i didn't even bother after a few times

[tidal moss]

Why are we arguing about fishing

[dense anchor]

who knows. fishing's great. gives you bones

[tidal moss]

Literally, bones are very useful

[autumn flare]

They are when you get the ability to actually sell them

[dense anchor]

patience is a virtue

[tidal moss]

You also need one in your inventory for ||toula||

[verbal rivet]

reddit post was deleted but here's archived versions (links don't work) https://web.archive.org/web/20250221184911/https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/1gmp85h/hades_ii_nocturnal_arms_guide_zorephet_the/

[trail cairn]

is the moros fires worth it?

[wary night]

I'd say so, yes! It's very strong once you learn how to play it.
I recommend unlocking every weapon/aspect in the long run tho, they all use different resources so there's no real downside.

[trail cairn]

i'm only missing one tear for that aspect, so i was planning on getting it now for my (hopefully) succesful ||surface|| run

[nova notch]

can you still level up keepsakes once their effect has expired for the night?

[wary night]

then go for it!
in general if you use your Ω special then spam Ω attacks you're good to go. just make sure you have a good source of magick regen and it does great damage

[wary night]

I believe so, yes. Just keep it equipped if you want to keep leveling it up.

[light sparrow]

The keepsake levels increase by how many encounters you go through with it equipped

[trail cairn]

if the plan goes well i should be fine on magick, thanks

[wanton plover]

how do i get the ||raven||, do i just have to meet it again? I met it once already

[wary night]

if you have ||a treat to give it|| then yeah, that should be all you need to do! look in the same place you found it last time

[wanton plover]

HII if i ||Stay with Nemesis||, am I locked out of other romance?

[pearl sand]

nope

[wanton plover]

Do others also get jealous or something? haha

[pearl sand]

not sure how the dialogue changes, but you're never locked out

[wanton plover]

cause I really want to romance ||icarus|| first but I rarely see him haha

So if i select ||hold off||, i wont get a chance again?

[wary night]

not really? you may get some extra dialogue but there are no consequences, the greek gods are hardly known for being monogamous tbh.
the core dialogue for each romance route should be the same no matter what order you do them in, at most you'll just get additional scenes on top of that
edit: and yeah, I think selecting that will tell the game "I want this to be platonic"
also a valid choice ofc

[trail cairn]

how does ||born gain (Hera magick restore)|| work?

[pearl sand]

not positive. i held off with|| nem and haven't had another chance yet||

[pearl sand]

it auto refills your magic and primes the number it says each time you refill in a fight. it resets between locations

[wary night]

||whenever you run out of magick, you restore all of your magick but "prime" a certain amount. Primed magic is like a reduction to your max magick that goes away when you leave the room.||
||Born Gain is crazy good. you basically never run out of magick if you get a couple max magick upgrades, and it happens automatically without you needing to do anything specific to trigger it beyond just try to channel another Ω move||

[trail cairn]

thanks

[light sparrow]

That boon is the most broken when it comes to magick

[wary night]

a lot of ppl consider it the strongest magic regen in the game, altho some of the others got buffed during EA and give it a run for its money. but it's really, REALLY good.

[wanton plover]

ah lastly, are there multiple romance scenes for each romancable characters or just one

what i mean is the implied spicy stuff 🤣

[light sparrow]

@wanton plover You can romance everyone that is romanceable in the game. At the same time. ||Nothing will happen, but there are some dialogues between some of them where they will be basically jealous, but that's about it. ||

[light sparrow]

||There is a lot of romance of romance scenes. But if you're specifically referring to the non pg scenes, that only happens once per lover.||

[wanton plover]

Whatt does ||Awakened rockets of Aspect of Shiva do?, does it mean my attack has my special boon effects also or only the omega attack? ||

[amber karma]

||after beating the game where can you find zagreus to get his keepsake?||

[wary night]

||try to find a new thing to interact with in mid-shops! I've only found it in the underworld so far, but that may just be because more regions there have mid-shops||

[light sparrow]

||You will be able to fight him for Elysium champion by using the contract. It will randomly spawn in Charon rooms. That's the only way to level up your relationship with Zag. You have to beat him like twice before he gives it to you.||

[split silo]

your thought was right, ||but both paths do have 2 regions that can have midshops! regions 2 and 3 for the surface||

[wary night]

UW can have midshops in regions 1, 2, and 3, but surface only 2 and 3, no?

fields midshop is rare but does exist, unless I'm severely misremembering

[split silo]

UW cannot have a midship in region 3

[wary night]

...yes it can? oceanus absolutely has a mid-shop, I've had to choose between it and the NPC room

[tall plover]

UW can have a midshop in regions 1-3.

[split silo]

i’m 90% sure in normal circumstances ||fields|| midshop doesn’t exist

||in your final run, echo is replaced with midshop||

[split silo]

sorry, fat fingered, meant region 3. fixed now

[light sparrow]

All the areas have ||midshops, except for the summit in the surface, and Tartarus in the underworld||

[split silo]

||Ephyra doesn’t either||

[light sparrow]

Meh, that one is weird.

[light sparrow]

The fields ||have midshops, you just have terrible luck|| 💔

[wary night]

oh hm is that how it works? I feel like I've seen it during other runs. It's always in the Echo room tho, for sure

[split silo]

I stand by my statement still. but regardless, ||zag encounter can only appear in erebus and oceanus for UW. that is a certain fact||

[amber karma]

Sheesh, spoilers

[split silo]

i mean, it is put in spoilers

[light sparrow]

ong

And bro legit asked

[split silo]

wait yeah i just realized you answered their exact question and no more😭

||And they already knew about Zag so what’s even the big spoiler? lol||

[torpid vessel]

funnily enough ||there actually is aa midshop room in the games files, its the bottom most door in the hub area, however it was scrapped and is now just a regular encounter room, but you can still see the places where the shop items would have been at. the PonyAO mod which reworks Ephyra to have ALL of the doors available, and only 6 of them actually have the objective things inside them re-enables the Mid-shop room so that you can buy some stuff in the middle of a run of the area||

[wary night]

???
they only asked where to find him
It was a very spoiler heavy way to answer the question tbh, revealing that ||you fight him and get teleported to Elysium|| wasn't necessary to help them find the encounter

[light sparrow]

They asked how to get his keepsake, I answered in the most detailed way possible

[amber karma]

See you get it

[wary night]

🤷 they reacted negatively to it spoiling what happens and I think that was a fair reaction, is all. ik you meant to be helpful, but sometimes the most detail possible isn't what someone wants.
they didn't rly ask how to get his keepsake, just where to look, and ||a secret boss fight|| is a really cool reveal

[amber karma]

This is literally the new players channel yk what I mean

[split silo]

that’s pretty cool! i never knew about this before

[amber karma]

Not supposed to go into full on detail for stuff

[light sparrow]

You asked, and I spoiled mark it

[amber karma]

And what I was just not supposed to click on it? Are you fr rn? You replied to my answer and literally anything past erebus is supposed to be spoil marked

Be more considerate in the future dude

[light sparrow]

Bro, it was literally spoiled marked, tf

[pearl sand]

you answered more than they asked, but it all got revealed by him trying to read the part they wanted to know

[amber karma]

All i wanted to know was where it was not every single detail of what happens

[wary night]

ik you had good intentions but the other three people who answered the same question did it without spoiling what happens. like... idk what else to say ||"there's a secret boss fight"|| is very much a spoiler and wasn't needed to answer their question.
it's okay, it happens, but idt Foxr is being unreasonable at all! an apology would be nice cause like... yeah that def ruined the surprise

[amber karma]

Its charon in hades 1 all over again for me q-q

[light sparrow]

I answered his question, how am I supposed to know he didn't want to know how get the keepsake exactly. I was trying to be helpful, it was spoil marked. He chose to read all of it

[quasi galleon]

am i right that
attack boons like 'your attack does +x%' apply to attack and attack, but hestia's cardio 'recharge magic when attack hits' applies only to attack and not ?

[wary night]

in general, attacks and specials plural in-game means both normal and Ω versions!
If it just says attack/special, then it doesn't work with the Ω move

[quasi galleon]

also it seems like when my attack hits multiple targets i only gain x magic once...?

[wary night]

that sounds right? I'm not 100% sure, but I guess each attack input can only trigger the effect once. would be kinda op in AoE otherwise, even in single target it already generates a ton of magick with fast hitting weapons

[pearl sand]

yeah, i think it's per attack you make, not counting an attack for each enemy you hit

[quasi galleon]

ok yeah, its 'whenever your attack or special deals damage'
i tested it with some specials that apply multiple hits per press and they seem to only recharge once per button press max, so maybe not ideal on the low rate of fire weapons

[thick halo]

Where do I get more ||pets|| besides the ||frog||?

it's been ages since I saw the dogs

[scenic arrow]

||erebus fountain room, first room of Thessaly||

[thick halo]

alright thx!

[lean terrace]

what do y'all think is the best aspect for umbral flames?

[torpid vessel]

||Moros|| easily, but the hidden aspect is my favorite

there is a really fun build you can do with aspect of Mel where you just take all of the boons that make you spend more magic, then get ||Rightous Pike from Athena|| to deal tons of damage

[turbid hamlet]

so i've unlocked 5/6 weapons and gifted mosted of the gods at least one nectar, but most of them aren't showing up in my book or in my prophecies list - is that normal?

[thick ice]

Are there any specifically bad aspects? ||Pan|| felt very underwhelming

[light sparrow]

Yeah, all the characters take a bit of gifting and talking to appear in the ‘book’.

[torpid vessel]

||Pan is alright, used to be one of the strongest in the game before it was nerfed, but still great if you know which boons to take with it. Mostly just need to have Poseidon on the special and youll do pretty good.||

none of the aspects are really bad though. Haelian did a tierlist on them and he was super right for cutting it off at C-tier, theyre all just good

[thick ice]

Ooh what was the nerf? ||I found it really hard to leverage the omega special cuz it takes so long to charge that the cast is done after 1 if it was omega, and enemies keep moving||

[torpid vessel]

basically, the omega special used to be much faster and you could dash out of it alot faster in order to start doing another one. You could get like 3 omega specials off in 1 cast. There also used to be a Hammer called Spiral Knives that made it so that you would do a TON more knives all around you, which seemed specifically made for ||Pan||. You can imagine the destruction

i really want someone to mod that back into the game because it was just so crazy cool to look at, lemme find a video of it

[upbeat sedge]

right now pan is S tier if you find the broken hammer and like F tier without it

with that being said all aspects are perfectly viable at the levels us mortals will be playing at

[scenic arrow]

fr, Pan is hero to zero without its hammer

I wanna say "If you're nothing without the hammer, you shouldn't have it" but it really is nothing without the hammer

it's really funny because pan needs trick knives but trick knives doesn't need pan

[upbeat sedge]

i feel like up until 50-60 fear you can do perfectly fine with every aspect if you're skilled enough

so for us mortals if we're struggling its more a skill issue than an aspect issue

[thick ice]

Ugh, that’s terrible design. Which hammer?

Oh. Trick knives.

[upbeat sedge]

trick knives is arguably the strongest hammer in the game

for all blades aspects, not just pan

but pan especially likes it because it interacts with the aspect favorably

[torpid vessel]

well excpet for the 4th aspect since youre not allowewd to get trick knives with it 😭

[upbeat sedge]

tbh across all hammers for all weapons, trick knives is arguably the strongest one

it makes the blades broken by itself

[thick ice]

Ohh I love that hammer, seems crazy strong

[tidal moss]

Blades just feels like such a hammer dependant weapon sometimes

[thick ice]

Maybe that’s why the knives have been so effective for me, I’ve used it twice

[torpid vessel]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqQ3uplyOKU||
found a video of someone fighting ||Chronos|| with it, look how stupid this is lmao

[scenic arrow]

I think hidden is the one that needs it the least. Final slice is good, but not mandatory imo.
The vanilla blades moveset is just a bit underwhelming imo

[tidal moss]

is defo what i play the most atm, although I love all the aspects, pan being my least favourite, probably cause I played so much of it when it was broken

[thick ice]

That’s a spoiler! Wrong channel for that

[scenic arrow]

oh oop

[tidal moss]

Oh we are not in builds

[thick ice]

I literally just got that one 30 seconds beforehand though, so no harm no foul 😛

[turbid hamlet]

same for weapons? and the prophecies of fate to acquire each upgrade for the weapons? don't have those either after doing 5-6 runs per weapon

[torpid vessel]

i highly recomend you try out the hidden aspect with Hephaestus on both your attack and special, its sooooo fun

[thick ice]

I love hidden aspects

[tidal moss]

CLANG

[thick ice]

Oh I meant the spoiler, not the aspect

I’m still a baby. 6 nightmare! And one I accidentally used on ||Thanatos||, but that one seems fun

[tidal moss]

Wdym prophecies to upgrade the weapons

[turbid hamlet]

the weapons don't show up on the prophecies scroll thing (or in my book)

[tidal moss]

At least nmare is alot easier to get these days

[thick ice]

How did it work previously?

The game feels like it’s still in EA

[torpid vessel]

do you mean the prophecy to get every hammer on each weapon??
to get those you just need to use many different hammers and when you only have a few left it will appear

[tidal moss]

You need to win a certain amount of runs or unlock all the aspects i think for the book, but I don't understand what you mean by them being in the list

[turbid hamlet]

i have the "unlock all daedulus hammer upgrade for staff" but not other weapons. and "unlock all boons for hermes" but none of the other gods

[tidal moss]

||testaments used to only give one each, and there were less bosses||

[tidal moss]

You need to take more different hammers and boons

[torpid vessel]

the only other source of it for a while was the ||final charon shop|| lol

[thick ice]

Isn’t… don’t they still just give one??

[tidal moss]

You could still order from charon and buy with bones i believe so I stacked a bunch and now have 50 spare

[tidal moss]

Nope, the more you do they start dropping 2, and then 3

[thick ice]

Oh really? That’s fun!

What the heck does “occasionally” with ||aspect of Artemis||?

[torpid vessel]

it just means it has a cooldown, i have no idea why it doesnt tell you the time on it

[tidal moss]

You can see the timer ingame

[torpid vessel]

there are several things like that where the game just hides a stat from you in the tooltips

for that aspect, there is also a little popup above your head that tells you when its ready again

[stoic pier]

Just a question! I'm wondering if there's a proper order to either defeating ||surface or underworld runs first? I wanna have the intended narrative!|| No spoilers please! 🙂

[scenic arrow]

no

I would recommend alternating them tbh, for the sake of your sanity

[tidal moss]

Day one of v.1.0 i ran all underworld then all surface in a few hours it wasn't much fun

[scenic arrow]

yeah, same for me

[little flax]

i havent played since halfway thru early acess do people reroll their first boon (like restart the night)

[wanton plover]

Does beating ||Unrivaled Typhon|| give any achievements, i beaten all vows except that last one for now

[scenic arrow]

no

[tidal moss]

Nope

[trail blade]

If I wanted a specific God, I'd just choose their keepsake.

[wanton plover]

How to unlock poseidon'slocked heart, does toula fishing work or do I have to manuallly fish?

[scenic arrow]

toula fish is fine

[wintry summit]

Is there something I need to do to stay on the surface?

[unborn cloud]

is every skill i hold faster or what?

[scenic arrow]

the incantation

[wintry summit]

What’s that

[scenic arrow]

you mean omegas? they generally have higher power, in exchange for mana

[scenic arrow]

once you die moros should give you a thing in the pot
you need moss(suicide runs on the surface) and something from chaos

[unborn cloud]

i mean like holding cast and special

[scenic arrow]

yeah, those are omegas

[wintry summit]

Who’s moros ?

[scenic arrow]

the... grey guy

[unborn cloud]

oh,it got faster?

[wintry summit]

Ohh ok ok I got u

[scenic arrow]

there's an arcana card that boosts omega speed, you probably equipped that

[wintry summit]

Soi haven’t really been talking to people so idk peoples names

Outside of Hecate

[tidal moss]

You should talk to everyone as much as possible

[scenic arrow]

yeah I think I could tell lol

[wintry summit]

I’m not interested in these characters tbh

[scenic arrow]

based but you're missing unlocks then

[tidal moss]

Yep

[wintry summit]

The characters in the first game where more fun to talk to so I have been skipping all the people in the hub

[scenic arrow]

ok but you're still missing a lot of unlocks then

[wintry summit]

How do you get the final weapon is that material on the surface too?

[scenic arrow]

yeah

[wintry summit]

Ahh ok I see now I need the thalamus to do the incantation

[inland breach]

Can olympian damage crit?

[scenic arrow]

yes except hestia scorch

[inland breach]

even blitz?

[scenic arrow]

yes

if you have a source of crit, that is

[sullen current]

I really like all of them, especially Odysseus and Moros, surprised you think they’re worse

[wintry summit]

That’s fair. The only thing this has had over the first game so far is the weapons for me.

And some of the upgrade mechanics like the grasp and stuff is cool

[vivid flare]

You still get keepsakes from them

[wintry summit]

Yeah I got their keepsakes

[vivid flare]

Ah. Carry on ignoring, then

[wintry summit]

Can you upgrade them past the 3 stars or was that the max

[covert river]

Can someone explain wads the use of favor of all keepsakes incantation?

Just so u dont need to go back to the box to re equip ur 1st keepsake? It takes literally 3 secs

[vivid flare]

You can get rank 4 on most Keepsakes via a Duo boon, assuming they're already at rank 3

[wintry summit]

Yeah I have been working on upgrading them

[vivid flare]

So you don't accidentally start a run with the keepsake you popped on for the fourth region of your last run

[wintry summit]

What has your guys’s favorite weapon and god combo been?

I really liked the torches surprisingly

[vivid flare]

Axe with Apollo/Aphro

[tidal moss]

Artemis blades and zeus

[wintry summit]

I’ll have to try that out

The axe with Demeter was cool

[tidal moss]

People will hate on Artemis, don't listen to them

[vivid flare]

Doing Aphro on Axe is like that. But you're actually doing damage :3

[vivid flare]

Enjoy your somehow-worse-than-base knives

[wintry summit]

He’s been cool tbh he has that like hammer hit that does 4-500 damage it reminds me of ares doom stuff

[vivid flare]

That's Hephaestus

[wintry summit]

Who’s Artemis

Oh wait nvm lol

[vivid flare]

She's referring to the Aspect of Artemis for the knives

[tidal moss]

I'm not doing this again

[tidal moss]

She*

[wintry summit]

It’s 1 in the morning I’m not all there rn

[vivid flare]

My apolocheese

[tidal moss]

I will accept your apology if you agree that Artemis is good

[shy zephyr]

my "apollo"gy

[wintry summit]

Artemis deals the critical hits right ?

[tidal moss]

Yes

[wintry summit]

How could she not be good

[tidal moss]

Ikr

[wintry summit]

I think there’s a reason she is like rare

[vivid flare]

Because it's on a weak base weapon, and the way to proc it is fairly clunky

[tidal moss]

It absolutely is not a weak base weapon

I will agree with it being a bit clunky it's not smth I use every encounter

[wintry summit]

I think her ability was better in hades 1 cause it was a actual boon route u could take

[vivid flare]

Plus the fact that the knives will attack first before you channel an Omega Attack means you waste crit stacks on that, since it's consumed on button press and not on hit

[tidal moss]

You get 7 stacks it's fine, very good for some burst damage it's just better than mel

[wintry summit]

Apollo with the axe I’m gonna try that my first run tomorrow

Ithe staff is kinda weird idk what to use with that one yet

[vivid flare]

Trick Knives only consumes 1 stack per dash-strike, right?

[wintry summit]

It’s cool but I haven’t figured that one out

[shy zephyr]

the specials from tk can't crit

[vivid flare]

Literally any of the 4 are good. Circe is phenomenal damage from the leash on top of the double cast, Mel is surprisingly potent with canceling your attacks into special (and has the first 1.0 max Fear clear), Momus is fun even if it's not super busted, and the Hidden is fun and busted

[wintry summit]

The knives with hestia has been cool

[vivid flare]

Man...

You'd think that would be the one area it would be funnier than Pan, but nah

[shy zephyr]

they used to but as you can expect it was ridiculously broken so they changed it 🥀💔

[wintry summit]

I probably should’ve asked that question in the builds channel my b

[vivid flare]

I mean...
TBH, it really ought to have that so it has some sauce

Even if getting Trick Knives turns the game into a Trick Knives run rather than any particular aspect

Speaking of Trick Knives, can you imagine how funny it'd be if it worked on the hidden aspect?

[shy zephyr]

thank god it doesn't

i can actually plan on what build I'm going for

instead of always doing the coin flip of "is this gonna be a tk run or not"

[wary night]

is this specifically wrt the aspect of artemis buff, or in general?

[shy zephyr]

it's an old change, happened halfway through early access

oh wait yeah, it's specifically with arty's crit stacks

[wary night]

ok good lol, if it didn't work with stuff like pressure points and antler that would feel really weird.
still weird that it doesn't work w arty but.... idk I don't use arty so I care less

[cosmic burrow]

Is there a ||fear|| requirement to make the ||infernal contract|| appear in shops? I’ve not seen it above or below in the last ten runs and have looked at every opportunity.

[acoustic quail]

hello I come seeking help
I'm trying to romance moros but my hearts with him have been locked for like forever and I can't figure out what I'm supposed to do

[hot cove]

how to get darkness gem?

[tidal moss]

Chaos

[tidal moss]

No

[indigo quest]

Does winners circle ruin charon axe or make it better?

Not sure if it gives enough time for omega special

At boon screen now so asking before

[acoustic quail]

I know it says the requirement is "further conversation and prophecies fulfilled" but I've been talking to him at every opportunity and I've fulfilled 31 prophecies and there's still been no progression with him

[tidal moss]

Then do more prophecies

[inland breach]

What's the priority use for star dust? pet upgrades?

[tidal moss]

Stardust?

[inland breach]

the stuff you get from chaoss challenges

[tidal moss]

Oh yeah mostly pet treats

[dark breach]

I'm just watching an outdated guide on || the aspect of pan || have they nerfed that since the || Warsong Update in EA||? If not, this looks like a lot of fun. But man getting all these ||Nightmares to really get those aspects to be great feels like a lot of work||

[tidal moss]

It's absolutely been nerfed

Can't anywhere close to how busted it was back in the day

[dark breach]

Dang it. Is it still good though?

[tidal moss]

Not really

You can make it work but it doesn't feel great, even with maxxed everything

[wary night]

it's usable, especially for less difficult stuff, and it can high-roll a hammer upgrade which makes it feel great but that's very rng dependent (I mean trick knives btw, and that one's good for every blade aspect lol I just like its interaction with pan a lot)
but tbh I'm not a huge fan of any of the non-hidden blade aspects, and if I had to pick one to invest nightmares in it probably would be pan 🤷

[tidal moss]

Artemis and mel are way batter

(I will not be debating this it's like the 5th time)

[wary night]

oh I mean I'm not saying pan is stronger, I just enjoy it more so if I had to invest in one of the three aspects I don't super like I'd choose pan
the other two are probably stronger, I just don't like them subjectively lol

[dark breach]

I just figured to switch the weapons up a bit so it's easier to ||farm nightmares and I don't have to take that many testaments as I still haven't even beaten Prometheus yet. Almost had him once but then messed up the Simon says and got destroyed.||

[dark breach]

Good thing about || Mel aspect is that you don't need nightmares I suppose. Can you recommend a good build for that?||

[tidal moss]

Zeus attack, hestia special

[wary night]

I'm probably not the person to ask tbh since I don't play it a ton! my highest fear run with it was just a heph blast build, which barely cares what weapon you're using and doesn't rly count

[scenic arrow]

heph is like, really in rn thanks to pom

it's pretty funny

[tidal moss]

I play it alot, you really want Zeus or pos on the attack, another curse on the special and just go to town

[dark breach]

Is the backstabbing stuff important or just an occasional bonus?

[tidal moss]

I tend not to focus on it but at base game probably a good idea to go for it

Omega attack is good cause it puts you behind them, I have clips of me destroying the underworld bosses if u want to see how it plays

[scenic arrow]

I wish its lockon range was a bit longer

waddling in with it charged to just get into range feels icky

[dark breach]

And which ||familiar|| would u want for that the ||mel aspect|| I mean in general not the backstabbing in particular.

[tidal moss]

Frinos

[dark breach]

Really? I would not have expected that. Why? 😄

[tidal moss]

Extra health

If you're not used to daggers you'll be getting hit alot

[dark breach]

I see

[limber steppe]

Hello! 🙂 2 questions:
1/ Is there any way to train a boss? Meaning being able to fight them without any reward, but without having to do the whole run? Just to learn.
2/ Is there any way to avoid the memory game phase during ||Prometheus ||fight? I have memory issues, which is why I play games like Hades 2 and not Simons says... If there is no way to skip that phase, I can basically uninstall the game. -_-

[tidal moss]

No to both

But you can dash to dodge the flames if you time it right

[limber steppe]

Really? I'll try that then. Thanks.

[cosmic burrow]

You can also pause the game during each flame line indication. Write down on a piece of paper or type on your phone where they’ll appear / which spot is safe. Then unpause and follow your notes. No memory required.

[tidal moss]

This guy prometheus's

[limber steppe]

...
Why didn’t I think of that myself? No idea — probably just because I was pissed off. Anyway, thanks for helping out idiots like me! 😄
Last time I went in the book, I noticed the game wouldn't pause, but I totally forgot there is actually a pause menu.

[rotund merlin]

I have 3 animal familiars and I still haven’t unlocked the incantation for upgrading their abilities

[inner spruce]

Chronos even complaints if you pause during his fight. (he used to not let you).

[tidal moss]

You need all of them

[rotund merlin]

Ahh ok. Thanks ya

[dark breach]

I think you need 4. I only have 4 and I got the incantation

[upper apex]

||screw you eris can you stop showing up in tart||

[little fossil]

is it normal that after Proper Upbringing activates, when I hover over my common boons it still shows them as common?

[calm path]

how do you activate the fates arcana card?

[little fossil]

does it have text that says "activation:" something on it?

[wary night]

activate the 3 cards around it all at once—enchantress, boatman, and champions iirc
all 0 cost cards activate for free but only if you meet their conditions

[calm path]

oh it's not just adjacent

ok

[wary night]

oh yeah add boatman and it'll work

[calm path]

ty

[limber steppe]

Hello, is "Enfeeblement of cowards (||Medea ||boon: "foes ranged shot have 40% reduced travel speed") cumulative with Hermes Hard Target boon (basically doing the exact same thing)?

[wary night]

yes! you can stack both effects

[limber steppe]

Oh my. I can't imagine how good it will be against a certain girl. Thanks! 😄

[elfin granite]

Can a certain girl's projectiles even be slowed? 🤔

[limber steppe]

Oh no, didn't think about that. 😄

I'm sad. XD

[tidal moss]

not very good

[limber steppe]

Yeah, did't think she could be immune... obviously. x_x Life is unfair. >o<

[tidal moss]

nah shes an easy boss you'll learn it eventually

[elfin granite]

I think because her projectiles are basically straight lines rather than objects that actually travel across the screen, they can't be slowed.

[limber steppe]

I don't want logical arguments, I want people to tell me how Supergiant Games are really bad people!

[limber steppe]

To be fair I'm struggling way more with the next boss. 😄

[serene mist]

Someone gimme a Mel argent skull build quick

[elfin granite]

Supergiant left the toilet seat up the other day! 😠

Or down! Whichever is worse!

[limber steppe]

That's what I want to hear! Damn you, Supergiant! 😂

[tidal moss]

I think ssg gave you a small case of skill issue

[naive verge]

talking about a certain boss in a later region uhhh ||the surface||
||so far out of everything I’ve fought in this game im reallllyyyy hating ERIS goddamn she’s annoying 😭 ||

[tidal moss]

Ion get the hate

[little fossil]

At first I did, after about 3-4 fights I think she's one of the easier ones. At first though it feels super overwhelming

[naive verge]

I was using the uh twin flames??? the weapon Hecate uses on my first go and bro I couldn’t hit her at all (plus I got unlucky on that run couldn’t get anything for my attack so it was doing no dmg either the build was so ass) then my second run I beat her but ending up using my death defiances like damn 😭 used the axe

[tidal moss]

You can definitely get chunked but everything is super telegraphed

[little fossil]

woah okay bot

[naive verge]

||I’ve gotten to chronos but I haven’t beaten the first phase (im assuming he’s got phases like hades did) and like yea so far my least favorite bosses r Eris and like maybe Cerberus idk but I’ve gotten used to his attacks||

[tidal moss]

Whomst?

[little fossil]

I got a message saying watch my language because i used a word that starts with s and rhymes with hit

[naive verge]

||chronos makes me mad tho like don’t taunt me after i die on the surface you ugly idiot ew 😭 truly ragebaiting me||

[naive verge]

ooooo bro said a naughty word

[tidal moss]

Yeah no swearing, not even a*s

[tidal moss]

||he does have 2 phases yea||

[naive verge]

||how bad is it||
||personally I preferred hades second phase so we’ll see if I feel the same with chronos||

also have yall been able to get good runs with the twin flames?

whatever they’re called

[tidal moss]

Yeah tons

[naive verge]

I only did the one run with them so far but wow it was mid

[tidal moss]

It's easier imo

[naive verge]

||it was my like second proper surface run and I kept getting hera boons and so my special was super strong but I wasn’t getting boons for like anything else lol so my aoe encounters were great but bosses took forever bc I had to spam casts||

||im not too sure if it was just me being unlucky with boons so the run sucked or what lol. still getting used to the new weapons (i miss exagraph…….)||

[tidal moss]

You're still definitely getting used to the game

[naive verge]

yea probably

still not used to having one dash either

☹️ and it having a cooldown

oh yea
||when do Dionysus and ares come into play…….i miss them||

[tidal moss]

Yeah you shouldn't have played the first game

[tidal moss]

Alot later in the game

[naive verge]

wait wha

[tidal moss]

The combat is very different and you're almost better off starting fresh

[naive verge]

is this a diss or smth

ohhhh

yea the combat is way different lol

[tidal moss]

Nah i only do that to people i like

[naive verge]

oh yea Aphrodite boons feel so much better to use

tho I do miss the old god calls im not caring for the hexes much

maybe it’s just smth I need time to get used to but I forget I have them sometimes

[tidal moss]

The hexes are really good

[naive verge]

idk I don’t rlly care for them so far

I’ve used the living nightmare one, the healing one and the moon beam one

and wolf howl? or is that the moonbeam one

[tidal moss]

Wolf howl is different to lunar ray

Really get going when you upgrade them

[naive verge]

that’s the thing I did upgrade them 😭 and it still felt like I was tickling enemies

[frigid tapir]

whats the impervious duration from "The Messenger"?

[shy zephyr]

slightly shorter than your dash

[eager wraith]

Hey gang any idea what the prerequisite is for unlocking the moon dust from shadow recipe?

I've a good bit of progression, only brewed one single shadow so far. Do you have to brew 2 shadows to unlock it, is it given by Hecate after a fight, maybe a certain incantation completed, etc.?

hold on was moonlit essence from shadow removed?

-# that'd be one way to make moonlit essence from stars better xD

[tidal moss]

Was it?

Checks out

[eager wraith]

dang though that'd be tricky, i wonder what shadow's even for now, you get the recipe for it so early

[tidal moss]

Just crafting things like that and some incantations

[eager wraith]

fair enough i do remember it possibly being needed for some decor/music maybe, I don't remember a single incantation using it yet but I did beat the underworld sooner than I would on my first playthrough so maybe I'm working through an incantation backlog

-# alchemy recipe related spoiler, pretty late mid-game i'd say, ||sweet nectar costs star dust now my poor sweet nectar you were so good and cool brews 6 now at least which is pretty excellent but good lord ||

[inner spruce]

Everything costs stardust v-v

It doesn't make much sense.

[tidal moss]

Not everything, what in particular are you trying to do?

[inner spruce]

Oh no, I was being hyperbolic in response to the last comment.

||All the nectar/beast snacks/moondust crafting mostly.|| It's just irksome, I'll live. Though it doesn't make sense with the dialogue.

||Demeter: "Oh, you can make Nectar with Golden Apples and some spices." The spices? Cosmic essence.||

[elfin granite]

What happens if you do all the ||Chaos Trials||? Is there no way to get ||Stardust|| afterwards other than buying it from the broker?

[eager wraith]

||Eventually you get an incantation that lets the biome 4's spawn a little platform with freebies, it's a small pool of items so stardust is quite common. This seemed like QOL but now it will become expressly necessary I imagine ||

[stiff hawk]

how to use rubbish i got like 22 from eris

[eager wraith]

Like with many things it's a wait-and-see, there are a couple ways to repurpose it down the line

[shrewd salmon]

progress the game u can do smth with it at the broker eventually

[frigid tapir]

do i need to have the relevant weapon equipped when talking to the npc that gives the hidden aspect?

[dense anchor]

no

[clever wyvern]

Re: Frinos. How do you use this guy?

I have him with me but he isn’t blocking anything from what I can tell

[hard zenith]

you get extra health when he is with you, and does the lost shade tablet thing for you

[clever wyvern]

How do I get him to block projectiles

[hard zenith]

in my experience almost all of the dangerous/big projectiles pass thru him, he can just block some already easy to dodge ones. So i dont really rely on him to block anything

[elfin granite]

Just stand behind him, really. He can block Hecate's morph projectile. 😌

And now for a question of my own: if a buff says your Casts do more damage, does that include the boon effects on your normal cast? Like Thunder Ring, Arctic Ring, etc?

[hard zenith]

Fair Fight
Earn 1,000 Gold competing against Nemesis
this achievement doesnt mean 1000 gold at once right?
right?

[dense anchor]

it's accumulative

[lofty lotus]

hows the aspect of thanatos and how does one build it

[thick ice]

Is it confirmed that ||Hidden Aspects|| require any ||level 5 aspect||? Including ||Melinoë||?

[inner spruce]

I can confirm that it's included.

[tidal moss]

No, you need 5 nmare in any non mel aspect and all aspects unlocked

[thick ice]

Those are two opposite answers!

[tidal moss]

Theirs is correct pre 1.0, it changed for 1.0

[inner spruce]

I replayed the game in 1.0, and I got it with a Mel aspect at 5, only. Let me finish the run, I might have a screenshot I can share.