h2-for-new-players

[grand nest]

technical test live woah, wheres that?

[urban bobcat]

On the SGG channel

They wanted something available for people who didn’t get into the tech test

[grand nest]

hmm, did they show the "cooking" mechanic?

yk the uh, pot

Making 100% pure incantations

[mint island]

Gather purple onions for soup.

[shy zephyr]

99.1%*

[vale vector]

haven't played hades 2 in a longtime, does it have a true ending now?

[reef pawn]

Nah, and just like Hades 1, it likely won't until the game is released

*fully released

[vale vector]

got it thanks

[reef pawn]

But it's got a damn lotta content still

[worldly frigate]

The true ending is the fade to blacks we met along the way

[sand void]

they are funny

[velvet tide]

Hades 2 even has content that will be cut, when the game fully releases

[reef pawn]

Sure am gonna cut Chronos from the game once it fully releases

[tame blade]

The aspects of the weapons will be available after purchase

[velvet tide]

No spoilers pls

Or is that a spoiler?…

No post-Erebus spoilers, ||chronos|| technically already is in erebus

[weary tartan]

the first thing mel says in the whole entire game is "death to chronos" tbf

[shy zephyr]

yeah it's funny that bosses 1-3 are actual spoilers, especially boss #3, but the final boss isn't 😂

doesn't chronos get mentioned in the steam page description as well?

[reef pawn]

And the closing sentence of the trailer

[winged prawn]

Checking this sub occasionally for any news on full 1.0 release. Anyone have an idea how close we are?

[weary tartan]

no news yet, still will be at least 1 update before 1.0

could be more too

[vast oasis]

Unlikely till winter spring

[scenic arrow]

late 2025 or early 2026 prolly

[white mauve]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbqsLXjyXw3iDPFOcGU13VL0E7lEtlup7
Alight, now that I have achieved the rank of Unseen One,

Time to clear off the rust from my knowledge of the Odyssey before diving into this unprecedented undertaking for Supergiant... A sequel.

[slender geode]

Ye

[violet escarp]

Having a lot of fun with the game. Love the depth of the mechanics and visual details

[swift folio]

downloading Hades 2, wish me luck

[swift folio]

nvm my PC is not good enough to run it...

[shy zephyr]

time for an upgrade

[swift folio]

Yeahhh, perhaps I should start saving money

[shy zephyr]

remember to NOT fall deep into the rabbit hole

"if i save up just a little more i can buy a better gpu"
"just a few more bucks could get me a better cpu"
"i may as well get a little more ram"

just get a decent system to run games at 60 fps

[swift folio]

I've got a friend who's into pc building so I'll ask him for the cheapest "good enough" components for today's standards and I'll build it myself

also I've checked out some stuff from 2 online and is it only me, or does keepsakes feel a lot weaker compared to the original game?

[scenic arrow]

fall deep into the rabbit hole do it it'll be so worth it

[shy zephyr]

they're weaker when you first get them, you have to level them up

[swift folio]

I'm talking overall

[shy zephyr]

no they're actually stronger imo.

there were plenty of mid keepsakes in h1

[vagrant finch]

Keepsakes are way way better in h2

In h1 it was basically just god keepsakes, a couple defensive ones, Charon and dad call sometimes

[vivid flare]

And also Plume/Flower/Butterfly meme runs

[vagrant finch]

I think meme runs answered its own question their right

Since we’re discussing strength of the keepsake

[ripe flame]

Non god keepsakes in Hades 1: How about a little helping hand with a random boon level up or a bit of picket money...
In Hades 2: How about a huge damage boost, or massive crit chance.

[worldly frigate]

The power of friendship!!!

But hey h1 cerbie collar life boost was nice! And Skelly's extra tooth death defy, and Dusa's snack-finding feather duster carried my ass 🤣

[vagrant finch]

Problem with h1 is there were a few that were really good and the rest were just bad in comparison, like sure feather duster might heal some hp but tooth is basically 1 shot protection and 100 healing, and acorn is a theoretical infinite damage blocked lmao

H2 has less “objectively correct choice” scenarios which is good

[worldly frigate]

Im waiting for the antler people to spawn 🤣

[chrome adder]

i love antler

[weary tartan]

antler so good

[chrome adder]

i lose so many ||50 fear runs|| because i get to ||tartarus|| with everything i could ever need and then go “you know what would be really funny?”

[shy zephyr]

receiving trinkets in h1 is like: hey zagreus! here, have this silly memento as a sign of our friendship! 😃
and then receiving trinkets in 2 is like:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/991631535570702396/1353859429640048790/d40hctptn6m71.jpg?ex=67e32f59&is=67e1ddd9&hm=ee6405b02c04a262d0a8fda24de3c2be5c0e84bd424b8d8563d33bfa411cfdd9&

[weary tartan]

literally, and tbf it is really funny

its not gambling if you just dont lose tho

[naive stump]

I have a suggestion

[vivid flare]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-halo2-elite-sangheili-greetings-gif-25839730

[worldly frigate]

I had a hunch you might

[worldly frigate]

Oh me swan-diving into a chaos portal with, like, ||maximum 2 rooms to go to chronos|| Just on normal difficulty but still

[thin fossil]

what are the strongest keepsake even

[shy zephyr]

antler obviously, but it does need either an insane amount of skill or ||trusty shield from heph|| to profit off of

[thin fossil]

antler makes me scared

[worldly frigate]

idk what the Meta is. but i will stan the chaos embryo til i die

it's my fav non-god specific keepsake

and yeh. antler scares me, too 🤣

[shy zephyr]

hell yeah, i love having ||100% chance to get extra resources|| while fighting chronos

[vivid flare]

There's a lot of boons that give invulnerability or free hits. ||Trusty Shield and Mint Condition from Heph, Nitro Boost from Hermes, Snow Queen from Demeter, and so on. Plus you could also possibly get stuff like Demeter's infusion that caps your damage taken to no more than 20/hit, Blood Spree from Ares, and Gale blocks||

[worldly frigate]

Oi, don't knock it! And, yeah, there's some rng/luck involved, obv - but none of the other keepsake effects, as far as I know, ||persist/carry on once you take off the keepsake|| so I'll often run chaos embryo in the first and potentially into the second zones to roll it again if I can ||but like the chance for +100 life, +20 healing per location, magick regen/max magick, attack/special/cast damage etc etc|| is worth it for me, bc if you hit it good it's GOOD.

[viral wharf]

Antler joke?

[chrome adder]

yep

“joke” mhm

[viral wharf]

I’m too much of a wimp to use antler

[vivid flare]

Simply grab some armor :3

[viral wharf]

How does one abuse da infinite dash glitched again?

[weary tartan]

on a very basic level ||hermes|| boon -> ||hera bridal glow||

[vast oasis]

Wait a minute

[vast oasis]

I only need 1900 more for a 5090 I’m close 😊

[oblique girder]

Once I unlock the warded portal in training room going up. || Without major spoilers for what's ahead. Am I supposed to keep going there even tho I die within first 3 rooms due to the decaying damage just to try and get lucky to collect materials or am I supposed to keep going down until I'm prompted to go up again?||

[vivid flare]

You're guaranteed to get 1 of the needed materials in the first room, any more past that is RNG. ||You'll get the other new bit from Chaos||

[oblique girder]

Is it || bronze||?

[vivid flare]

||No. The incantation requires 2 Moss||

[oblique girder]

Oh I see. I don't think I've unlocked || the incantation yet, I'll just keep going down until I'm shown the receipe for it|| thanks!

[vivid flare]

||You'll also want to chat around the Crossroads||

[oblique girder]

||Yeah I speak to every NPC after every run just as a habit from souls like games ||

[vivid flare]

Then it should show up soon

[autumn rock]

Lol ||Demeter infusion now turning you from "anything one hits" to "anything two hits"||

[vast oasis]

Get plants

[scenic arrow]

I have never seen a chat with this much spoilered text

Looks like a classified CIA file

[vagrant finch]

I mean it is the no spoilers channel

[solemn drift]

Am I the only one who thinks Nemesis doesn't really do anything?
Like after having beaten everything in the game atm, she doesn't actually get up to much|| and I don't think she ever actually gets to Tartarus?||
I guess I just expecting more from her character because of her intense rivalry with Mel||. I'm thinking that they should add some sort of event where she comes and helps you during the Cerberus fight kinda like Zeus with the Typhon fight.||

[vivid flare]

She has dialogue about exactly that

[vast oasis]

She can’t get to the final region

[sacred imp]

Is there a setting which makes it so all your damage adds up into 1 number, rather then having multiple small numbers?

[tall kernel]

can't wait for H2... still haven't watched any youtube playthroughs.

[shy zephyr]

avoid them like the plague, plenty of them have spoilers on the thumbnail

[vast oasis]

Click “do not recommend” on hades related content

[viscid geyser]

math is one hell of a drug

[late oyster]

Okay so I have not even like watched a single video on hades 2 ever since it was announced but like I don’t wanna wait another year because I’m on Xbox so like I wanna get a steam deck NOT just for hades 2 but it is a big part, is there anything I should know like does it run well, will it take up too much space, how is connecting my controller to the dock on my tv gonna work will there be input lag, pls help me out here I don’t wanna make the wrong decision also idk if this is the right place to discuss this so sorry about that if it is

[tame blade]

If you want to play Hades 2 with you Xbox control, maybe a PC can be cheaper than a Steam Deck

[round olive]

If u wanna play on the actual tv, it might be better to get a pc, or even a MacBook, i have an m1 air that runs hades 2 at 4k120 on high, but a steam deck would definitely be a great option, these games feel like they were made for handheld gaming

[raven falcon]

Heyho, just got here from an Information site about Hades II because I have been praying for it to come to Console, and I still am, AND I always will. I pray so hard that Supergiant doesn't do the ********hole-move like so many other game development-people thingys (how do you call that, I'm german and a lil dumb in english) and just releases it on PS5, because us PS4 players wanna have such beautiful and awesome games too🥲

• I already have the prequel on Nintendo switch (and I'm so going to buy it for PS4), so I'm also hoping for it to come to Nintendo Switch (again, PPPPPLLLLLEEEEEAAAAASSSSEEEE not only switch 2🙏 🙇‍♂️ ) so I can have the collection on all my consoles.
  As a giant fan of greek mythology I was thrilled whwn I heard about Hades by chance, and immediately got it when I saw it in the Nintendo eShop, and now that there's a sequel I feel like I'm a child all over again (I'm 16 rn, when I heard of Hades I was like 11 or 12)

Is it noticeable, that I waited all the 10 mins I had to to write this text?💀

[fast plover]

it's probably safe to say it'll come out on those platforms! though they almost definitely won't until on or after the release of 1.0 (the full game), and we're still not sure of its release window

[raven falcon]

YYYYEEEEEESSSSSSSSS, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HAPPY YOU JUST MADE MY DAY

[weary tartan]

and dont worry if you play h1 and h2 out of order or jump between them when it does official release to console, h2 doesnt require almost any knowledge of h1! which is rad

[vast oasis]

Way better with knowledge tho

[weary tartan]

also making me feel old asf saying hades came out when u were 11 or 12 🧓

[weary snow]

Finally grabbed the game after dragging my feet forever. Damn does it slap already

[shy zephyr]

mfw the game came out 4.5 years ago

[turbid comet]

https://tenor.com/b0CbE.gif

[blazing crypt]

can you forge bonds with any of the characters yet? I’ve had two almost 3 characters with the heart locked key 💔

[vast oasis]

I don’t think so

[vivid flare]

Nope, probably going to be a 1.0 thing

[raven falcon]

I'M SORRY😅
Didn't mean it that way

[velvet horizon]

If it makes you feel better I was almost 19

[tall kernel]

on switch 2 AND switch 1... hope that doesn't change. I was hoping to wait a bit before hopping to switch 2

[harsh arch]

you can unlock some of those for some npcs, but bonding quests are currently "incomplete"
after enough talking and gifts you´ll get a clock icon with the message "perhaps in the future"

[eager wraith]

no reason it would change

[desert seal]

okay, i fibally have a pc weith liike.. 64gb of ram. and somethinmg of a graphics card taht isnt a potato. questionm, though- can thsi thing run on linux?

[tame blade]

Probably

There is a site called "Can You Run It" that analyze your PC and tell if it can run certain games

[weary tartan]

if u are already using proton for steam it should be okay

[worldly frigate]

Idk much about how it all works, but steam decks run linux and it runs fine and dandy on them

[signal pewter]

I lost track a bit.
We know the game is coming to the newly revealed Switch 2 which is no surprise, but I don't remember if 1.0 will launch simultenously on all platforms?

[tame blade]

Probably will

SGG said on Twitter that they will launch at the same time for Switches and PC

[signal pewter]

Ah damn... so other consoles will have a delayed release again?
I was hoping this time everybody would get it day one!

[tame blade]

Yeah, probably the game will come for Xbox/PS a few months later

[signal pewter]

As much as I loved Hades and how excited I am about Hades 2, I ain't getting that overpriced Switch 2!

[tame blade]

If you had the original Switch, the game will come for it too

[signal pewter]

Well I held off getting Early access this time around, I guess I can hold a few more months..

I think I got the first one on Epic / Switch and PS5 (mybe I even got it on steam too for some reason)...
This time I'll wait a bit.

[tame blade]

Fair enough

I think they will give us a possible release date after the next update

[signal pewter]

Maybe it's the recent anouncement, but I kinda feel a release date is getting closer (still likely 2026)

might be wishfull thinking though!

[tame blade]

I am particularly hoping for a release this year

Fingers crossed 🤞

[signal pewter]

I'd love that, but I feel if it was due for fall we would have a date already!

🤞

[tame blade]

Perhaps they are holding it for the next months to not make fake promises (maybe I am just having my copium

[signal pewter]

I pop by the no spoiler chan from time to time, but so far I managed to avoid most of the infos. I don't the weapons, who the bosses are etc...
I'll be going in fresh! It's gonna be fun!

ok now I wanna go replay the first one!

Thnaks for the chat and infos!
and ... 🤞

[vast oasis]

Steam will tell you I think

[tired monolith]

yes

[scarlet frost]

just finished Hades yesterday (all achievements) and finally started Hades II today!

[tired monolith]

I exclusively play on Linux

[harsh arch]

funny thing i got all achievements yesterday too, but i started playing H2 way before getting em, and im still missing skelly´s third statue
hope you like the new stuff the sequel offers

[scarlet frost]

so far so good!

[whole dust]

Don't worry, the game runs well with Proton and you can check the compatibility status of the game on ProtonDB for Linux gaming

[gilded adder]

I can't wait for the game I'm so excited 😭 every day I wake up and check on the announcement channel

[shy zephyr]

you can always go back and grind the first game, it's what I'm doing 👀

[scenic arrow]

the game is not gonna release in the next 4 months if I had to guess, so you don't need to check that often

I'm keeping myself busy while watching house md

[gilded adder]

I'm already doing it 😂

[gilded adder]

Nice!

[harsh arch]

fr i got back just to max all weapons and buy the last house upgrades

[rare cairn]

With cross-save ?

[tame blade]

Probably will have, since it's a available feature in the first game

[dusk igloo]

i played hades 2 when it first came out, kinda went a little overboard and completed mostly everything available before the 1st or 2nd patch. Has there been a good amount of changes? Should I just reset and try everything new? Should I just wait for the full version? ty

[near coral]

I'd suggest picking up where you left off. Once the game goes live with version 1.0, that would be a good time to start a new save file.

[harsh arch]

last update just added the final boss for the surface run, and Ares

[azure gull]

Adding on, we also have all the familiars, new keepsakes, and all weapons (there should be one you haven't tried since it came with the Olympic update in October)

[dusk igloo]

nice! thank you! pretty fun

[worldly frigate]

I came back after roughly the same length of time away as you and I'd say if you want to go on, just pick up where you left off. I restarted/did a new save but I don't think there was a need. There's added content but it adds on/after what you've played. As far as I'm aware they didn't change anything or add anything to like the existing content.

[vast oasis]

Shadow is fine on 8 fear

Time 1/2 is pretty free

Wards 1/2 isn’t too bad

[shy zephyr]

erm, wrong channel 🤓

[edgy locust]

GOD-

[edgy locust]

my bad 😭

[vast oasis]

I deleted it

[shy zephyr]

👍

[vast oasis]

The other stuff is just a reskinned h1 feature is that still a spoiler

[shy zephyr]

yeah

technically the majority of the game is reskinned h1 🗿

[vast oasis]

🗿

[pure talon]

Hey yall, i have played very little of the game and i am also a little blind so, sorry if this is a dumb question

Does the cast do something without getting the card thing

[tiny locust]

it snares enemies in place regularly and also does damage at the end when held for omega cast with mana

its a free crowd control tool

though the arcana card that boosts damage to enemies in casts make it a lot more useful for it to be used in combos

[worldly frigate]

^^^^ it's also something that you can get boons for to buff it!

[pure talon]

Aa okay

Thanks guyss

[signal lichen]

using it as a snare is what helped me adjust to the new movement mechanics since Hades 1. Gives you a good buffer for conserving your dashes or starting your sprint. I like most of the boons related to it too.

[pure talon]

Oh so there is a second dash? Ive been suffering so far

My muscle memorys been trying to dash twice and then dying to the second world boss 😞

[harsh arch]

only in the first game

in the sequel you have one dash, but you have a sprint and some boons to delay cooldowns between dashes and the Achilles archana

[pure talon]

Greatest reflex i need u pls

Guess i’m just gonna have to learn how to dodge that damn boss

[harsh arch]

||Scylla||?

[pure talon]

Yeahh

[harsh arch]

Personally i focus on ||Roxy|| first since she covers a good bunch of area, and then ||Jetty|| since she has such an annoying moveset, idk if this is the best strat but it works for me.
For the second phase i focus on ||whoever gets featured artist|| first

[pure talon]

Aa i see, thank you

Im having a lot of trouble ||when that featured artist part starts, it just feels like the entire arena is filled with attacks and rhey hit FAST||

[gritty skiff]

i will say, the seem overwhelming at first. i struggled with that fight a lot at the beginning, however it will get better the more you do it. they have fairly specific movesets

||for example: jetty has the bubble (sonic?) attack which is annoying but mostly harmless. her main damage is dashing across the room and releasing a wave. her featured artist is that, but a wave also appears where she starts||

[pure talon]

Yee hoping to clear them soon

Might just need a few more cards

[worldly frigate]

Yeaaaah i had issues with that for a WHILE, too 🤣 you get used to it. Try and practice with it/learn it in more chilled areas/encounters. Like over-use the dash-sprint all the time to Build Up that muscle memory

[pearl moss]

The game is balanced enough around the single dash into sprint. Also easier on the fingers when you don't need to worry about hermes giving you like 5 dashes with poseidon or w.e. lol

[vast oasis]

This is how I do it

[lean sky]

Hey everyone! We've been waiting almost a year since the EA release, and I'm seriously on edge waiting for 1.0 haha. I'm very close to just buying the game rn. For those of you who played through EA, is the story complete enough? Or do major parts seem missing?

[weary tartan]

story is not complete, the large main story chunks are unresolved rn

[shy zephyr]

major story parts will be missing until 1.0
the ea is to tune out the balancing and general gameplay, and 90% of the gameplay content is already available. but if you care a lot about the story then you should still wait

[lean sky]

Yeah I do care for it, thanks for the replies

[vast oasis]

Gameplay wise it’s pretty much done, what’s missing is the favor conclusions as well as the ending

[gritty skiff]

so imagine in the first game you beat hades and when you exit, the game has a “to be continued screen” that’s kinda how ii feels. play wise it’s there but a lot to fill in

[raven dove]

||eris|| has some of the most invisible telegraphs and she does wayyyy too much damage

not a good boss at all

in general i'm not huge on the ||olympus|| route bosses at all

she hits way too quick with telegraphs that can be just absolutely invisible if you have a lot of flashy stuff going on, and she does wayyyyyyy too much damage. idk what they were thinking with her, feels harder than the ||charon|| fight in H1

[shy zephyr]

just stay behind her all the time she can't do anything

[brittle nymph]

the telegraphs can actually just be solved by playing more. they get incredibly noticeable after a while

[raven dove]

If you'd got big splashes and lightning strikes and stuff going you literally can't see them

[scenic arrow]

disagree there, it feels a lot harder and more exciting compared to ||underworld||, which can kinda be a stomp after a while

[brittle nymph]

then just stick behind her, like what pizza said

one thing i've noticed about the ||eris|| fight is that she really doesnt have a lot of health, if you just keep whaling on her you really dont need to dodge that much because there isnt enough time for her to attack you

[vagrant finch]

I feel like ||eris|| has some of the more obvious telegraphs in the game actually

[gritty skiff]

also she has a fairly limited moveset

||when standing till she’s going to: dash, machine gun, shotgun, or bombs. most all have fairly good telegraphs||

[chrome adder]

||only one of those moves can’t be dodged by dashing behind her and the bombs take 3 to 5 business days to land lmao||

[gritty skiff]

that’s not to downplay anyone’s struggles with her. she was really tough for me for a while but it just comes down to the unsatisfactory answer: practice

[wheat solstice]

Do you guys enjoy h2 the same as h1?

[gritty skiff]

i definitely do. maybe even more for me. not sure exactly why but i’ve been much more motivated to push myself for more difficult challenges than i did in the first

[shy zephyr]

not until they inevitably add ||the extreme measures equivalent|| from h1 to the game. the ||beefed up boss fights|| were so good. once they add that, my answer will very likely be yes

[scenic mango]

ive already played it a lot more, absolutely

[teal tendon]

Sort of. I think H2 has a more engaging combat as well as replayability, however H1 was a better experience overall

H2 feels like a game. H1 felt like playing a greek myth

[vast oasis]

This might be the best description I’ve seen

First game has a better story concept imo because I like the grounded and complete arcs, versus typical bad guy/good guy story, but h2 gameplay is just way cleaner and probably has more replayability

[vagrant finch]

It’s kinda unfair to compare the stories at all rn

[vast oasis]

I know but we can see what kind of story h2 goes for

[vagrant finch]

I mean you did use “grounded and complete arcs” as part of your argument lol

And I’d also say it’s a big oversimplification to say h2 is a typical good guy/bad guy story

(From what we have so far)

[vast oasis]

Complete was the wrong word yeah

[young hamlet]

It currently in our (Mel’s) eyes is a good guy/bad guy story, because that’s exactly how ||Mel was taught to think about it for who knows how long training to kill the Titan, but it’s already showing that it’s more complicated than that||

Just realized this was no spoilers so mb :3

[gritty skiff]

||100% one of the central storylines of the game seems to be how much the gods have screwed with people and aren’t necessarily the good guys||

[young hamlet]

||I mean yeah all the side characters have either been screwed over by the gods themselves or by their chosen “heroes”||

[tame blade]

||I didn't read the spoilers, just wanna text too||

[spark stirrup]

where can i find hades 2's roadmap? im not really interested in playing the game rn even tho I have access to it until its 1.0 because I really enjoyed how hades 1's elements came together like the story, flavour text, voice acting, etc. I assume for that I would need to wait for 1.0. But I can't find the roadmap.

[vivid flare]

It's in the start screen for the game

[tame blade]

Could someone send a print?

[vast oasis]

When you open the game and you see play, settings etc

Look in bottom right “coming soon”, click that

[tame blade]

For the people who don't have the game I mean

[vast oasis]

oh

[pure talon]

I know i was complaining abt having only 1 dash, today i booted up the first game and kept holding the button to sprint 😭

How the turn tables

[chrome adder]

my favorite thing to do in h1 is take stupid damage to flamewheels because i try to stop them with the cast

[quasi quiver]

H2 brainrot

[clever wyvern]

If H2 has more replay-ability than 1 then I’m even more hype haha

[vivid flare]

It has twice as much, just like a sequel should :3

[eternal fog]

does anybody have a good post on like, a story recap with no spoilers? i cant exactly google around for it so im a bit stuck

im gonna read more book of shadows in a sec, but i just got the ||enchantment to survive on the surface|| and i kinda been half-paying-attention to the dialogue then realized im lost

so essentially ||none of the gods can kill each other||, and ||chronos kidnapped hades||? why doesnt ||hades just leave his prison when you beat chronos for the first time||, is he stupid?

and whats the point of repeatedly ||fighting if nobody can die||? it seems petty asf, not like a "noble task" or w/e

also ||what was the thing that happened with the 6 gods and initial dispute hades talked about before the daughters of nyx were taken away||?

and im assuming the ||3 fates|| are like people who are more powerful than ||gods||? do they get to choose the outcome of reality, or do they only enforce it? and while ||chaos|| is a giant troll, did he essentially set them up to like, guard the sanctity of reality more seriously?

and why did the ||3 fates|| suddenly get all this power? if they're ||the daughters of nyx||, then why isn't he equally as powerful? wouldnt this suggest ||chaos|| or someone equivalent made them like "keepers of reality", but it wasn't pre-ordained or at the start of time?

super lost here but i think i got the spirit

[shy zephyr]

1. ||hades can't escape because chronos just reconstitutes himself when you leave||
2. ||chronos supposedly can die||, it's just not in the game yet because it'll be part of the story, which will mostly be added in 1.0.
3. everything else you mentioned is just original greek mythology being very weird and having inconsistent power scaling

[young hamlet]

This is no spoilers btw

May wanna edit your messages a bit

[shy zephyr]

bro 😭

[gritty skiff]

||my impression was that hades could leave when mel was there (she could free him) but for some reason he felt it would make the situation worse||

to be fair a bit to alpha, the conversation would probably better be suited for #h2-story-discussion

[vast oasis]

I deleted it but it’s not exactly a major spoiler

It’s pretty much shown in the trailer

[mystic zealot]

is the whole game beatable without arcana or boons?

if you can't stop boons then let's say you just sell them every time you get to the sell shops

[weary tartan]

@whole citrus has done boonless, I assume arcanaless boonless is also possible but just very boring

[whole citrus]

arcana boonless is 100% possible, its not even a real question tbh

[weary tartan]

I just don't know if anyone's done it yet that u know of

[vast oasis]

It’s just boring asf

Slow omegas

Low damage

Basically fresh file

But worse

[frozen panther]

I can see people having the skills to do it boonless but how do you avoid taking boons?

[tall plover]

You end up unavoidably taking a few so you need some way to purge your boons.

[vast oasis]

Luck and purging

[primal trench]

She can't exatcly deal with the shackles afaik

[weary tartan]

theres a mod that lets all boons be onions and forced interactions like arty give spare wealth as the boon option

[tame blade]

They should make a mod where you 🫵 are the onion

[whole citrus]

not really an official mod, just code manip

[tall plover]

I still think Mel genuinely enjoying raw red onion would be funny.

[tight mantle]

Hades “why can’t you be more like your sister and eat your vegetables boy! You think you can sustain yourself on sugary nectar? Look how happy your sister is with just an onion!”
Mel “ :3 🧅 onion”

[tall plover]

As she takes a bite out of one like an apple.

"Guess I take more after Mother."

"She did not get that from me."

[tight mantle]

Hades then proceeds to eat an onion the exact same way and zag and persephone just go
“Ah, i understand now”

And then eurydice just looks on in utter horror

[tame blade]

Please SGG make this interaction happen

Btw I read that with Logan's voice

[tight mantle]

As you should

[shy zephyr]

h1 actually did have a funny dialogue with achilles about onions

so there is a chance 🙏

[tame blade]

I've read a comment on YT that is perfect: "No matter how much SGG pay him, it's not enough"

[tight mantle]

Fr bro is amazing he brought hades to LIFE i can’t imagine hades sounding any different

[tame blade]

Chronos also has a stunning voice

[worldly frigate]

Mel just bites directly into a pomegranate like it's an apple and then Hades is like 'wait no-'

[worldly frigate]

Isnt there dialogue in h1 of Zag having eaten a raw onion and eurydice being like "hon....you def need to get out of here bc who tf raised you that u think eating it raw is what you're supposed to do with onion!?" (okay im paraphrasing but they def talk abt the onion)

[tight mantle]

Yeah i saw that one! Zag defo learned from hades the resident onion muncher

[worldly frigate]

"Resident onion muncher" would be hades' twitter bio with no other info/context/anything

[timber saffron]

Yeah its so crunchy i love it so much

[vast oasis]

Isn’t that what all mods are

[whole citrus]

true ig

[vast oasis]

Hades is a smart Olympian and would never go to Twitter

[tall plover]

"Mel eats everything like an apple" would be a fantastic meme.

[young hamlet]

Twitter would make him hate his job even more

Seeing all the terrible souls he’ll have to soon deal with

So yes he’d never go to Twitter

[worldly frigate]

Hades: my daughter, I am so grateful you're alive, I'm so happy, nothing could spoil this moment, I-

Mel: * casually starts eating a banana like it's an apple *

Hades:...............persephone fetch the disownment paperwork

[young hamlet]

punishes your pact

[shy zephyr]

spoilers?

[plain belfry]

Darn

[lusty dome]

i prefer the idea of her eating everything like they're poms so like she cuts out tiny bits of them at a time

[lament yacht]

Got my first chronos smacc

[young hamlet]

[green gorge]

@timber saffron @iron steeple @brittle nymph
hi there, just a small reminder that #h2-feedback is not for discussing feedback, giving advice based on feedback, etc.
If you wish to do so please use #h2-discussion or here (spoiler tagging where needed)

[timber saffron]

sorgy

[iron steeple]

I generally only reply if I think that what I have to say is worth saying as feedback, and use a ping in one of the discussion channels (usually #h2-discussion ) if it's directed mainly at the person who gave the feedback. I'm not gonna argue further if you say no, but I don't think anything I've posted recently in #h2-feedback , including the replies, was off topic for the channel.

[urban bobcat]

You can always paste in the message link instead and word it slightly differently

[rocky forge]

Its been 1 year since EA launch i can almost taste the 1.0 launch

[tall plover]

Hades 1 was in EA for 21 months. We've got another baby to go.

[cobalt rivet]

And at least one more early access update

[ashen finch]

huh? i thought we have the last early access

[scenic arrow]

no there's one more

at least

[cobalt rivet]

I think end of October is a probably a good estimate for when we get 1.0 at the earliest.

Based on the amount of time it's taken for updates and also on vibes.

[scenic arrow]

that's my guess too. Fall makes sense for a witchy game, and if we get a final major update now, that gives them 5-7 months to finish up. I presume they've been working away at all the ending and relationship dialogue for a while by now

man their organization system for all their dialogue must be insane

[cobalt rivet]

There's a video somewhere about that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwdYL0KFA_U

[scenic arrow]

oh I just meant their internal files and naming system

[cobalt rivet]

Ah, sadly I think that's a secret ;)

[blissful forge]

This is so cool!

Are there lines in Hades 1 if you beat the final boss on the first run? 🤔 Curious because in 2, I beat a couple new bosses in one run and didn’t get any special lines. Wonder if there’s going to be something similar

[cobalt rivet]

I think there is, but I having never done that, I wouldn’t know. Maybe ask in #h1-discussion ?

[naive stump]

There's a small variation when reaching dad the first time but not beating him

Same goes for reaching hecate on your first run ||and Chronos too||

[zinc kelp]

My impression from voice actor interviews and bloopers (specifically Amelia Tyler’s baldurs gate bloopers) is that generally lines are numbered, and presumably the code uses those numbers to play the dialogues? I’m no professional though, just an interested observer

[stark zenith]

pretty sure lines are numbered yeah, you can probs see it from snooping around in the game's scripts

[urban magnet]

all the lines have names actually

[coral spindle]

i choose to believe it's all real and there's an infinite number of lines

[crystal glacier]

If I got H2 EA now would I have enough time to give feedback before full release or did I miss my chance

[timber saffron]

Yep there are still a bunch of patches to go so i would say you stiil have time

[crystal glacier]

Just did my first batch of H2 runs

[timber saffron]

So?

[crystal glacier]

Made it to ||Hecate boss fight ||

Maybe I’m just used to H1 but H2 feels considerably more complex. Tools are a fun addition it seems.

Mana conservation is gonna take time to adjust to. I never used cast or adamant rail all that much in H1 so I’m not used to ammo conservation

[worthy ocean]

im not gonna lie, adamant rail isnt about ammo conservation but remembering to reload. You cant reload magic at will, its conditional on the 'gain' boon you choose

[crystal glacier]

True, I just threw AR in there to cover my bases. The H1 cast is also closer to H1 than the mana system

[manic mantle]

Cast is pretty vital to H2, but you'll get used to that. the magick system is optional for the most part, so you can find which weapon you like using the Omoves with.

[timber saffron]

yeah

[crystal glacier]

Cleared Erebus

[timber saffron]

Awesome

[crystal glacier]

Wicked thrasher + rare cardio gain is a fun combo

[timber saffron]

FActs

What do you have in the attack?

[manic mantle]

lol ran in to one of the strongest combos in the game immediately. niiiiiice

[crystal glacier]

I don’t remember the exact loadout but I also had a Demeter boon giving my cast freeze and an Aphrodite boon giving me +attack but primed 20 mana plus some other Hestia boon I think

I also has the Hestia keepsake on and made the Cardio rare

[timber saffron]

Good

[vast oasis]

Secret crush(aphro) is extra power but 20 MP

[vast oasis]

Not even close

[tame blade]

My Switch is fully fixed🙌

Now SGG can release H2

[simple hare]

hi i wanna buy hades 2 on my laptop but i dont understand pc stuff at all. my processor is AMD Ryzen 7 5700U with Radeon Graphics 1.80 GHz, 8GB Ram, and 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor. is that enough to run hades 2 well? the system requirements say "GeForce GTX 950, Radeon R7 360, or Intel HD Graphics 630" but i have no clue what any of that means

it runs hollow knight and rain world just fine, havent tried any 3d games

[timber saffron]

Idk

[tall plover]

Have you tried H1 on your laptop?

[scenic arrow]

I think you should be ok? My macbook 8gb of ram runs it fine

[simple hare]

no

i played hades 1 on my switch

[coral spindle]

a fellow mac player?? have you done the ghost minigame where you left click and right click simultaneously

do you use an extra keyboard or controller or

[scenic arrow]

I have a bluetooth mouse

I play on the go, in the school library whenever I have time

[urban bobcat]

Oh my god I never thought of that 😭

Glad I have a controller

Man that must be miserable now that that’s the only way to get ||grasp||

[scenic arrow]

I mean how do you even do special attacks on trackpad

[lucid hornet]

you could ||use frinos to skip it or order 80 from charon||

[velvet tide]

You need to do it once to be able to unlock ||frinos||

[lucid hornet]

do you need it for ||the wells or the dock||?

[velvet tide]

No, i dont think so

But farming all the ||grasp|| that way seems painful

[lucid hornet]

well tbh that would still suck since it would ||softlock you out of getting any familiars||

[velvet tide]

There is already much feedback suggesting too fix the problem, hopefully they will with next update

I’m not sure what the best solution would be tho

[lucid hornet]

well tbf they do say they strongly recommend using a controller but besides that or using a non-Apple mouse the simplest solution is just adding a setting to disable the minigame

[plain belfry]

Wait how do mac people scroll with their mouse

[crystal glacier]

Kronos' ability to break into my house irl and stop my controller from connecting to my computer seems a little broken, devs please nerf /j

[lucid hornet]

The heathens use a sensor inside the mouse...

[burnt briar]

Hey, I wanted to know if you guys had any advice on ||how to get past Prometheus up to Typhon (I think it's him the final boss?) because I always get killed before no matter what, idk how to get through. I've managed to kill Prometheus a few times, but as soon as I enter the region I can only last 3-4 chambers maximum||

[stark zenith]

a strategy I like ||is to stack up beeeeg HP, then do demeter infusion (frosty veneer) which vastly reduces damage taken. another thing you can do is dash through the prom memory game flames if you can't memorise it, and you take no damage||

[vivid flare]

Do you run Strength or Death?

[urban bobcat]

the magic mouse? the glass surface is basically a touchpad that you can use for 2D scrolling (and multi finger gestures)

actually the one thing apple did cool about that product, the only alternative is that one surface mouse which bends flat

[urban bobcat]

click w/ two fingers ✌️

[scenic arrow]

pain

[analog basin]

Anyone know if I can use a xbox controller for the steam verison?

Cuz i wanna play it on console but I don't wanna wait for months

[scenic arrow]

yes

I use xbox controller for everything controller on steam

[analog basin]

Awesome!

[burnt briar]

What do you mean by that

[vivid flare]

What Arcana cards do you use?

Strength (-30/40/50% damage taken, +25% damage dealt while out of Death Defiances)

Or Death (+1/2/3 Death Defiances)

Most people treat those two as mutually exclusive, and generally Strength is considered the stronger of the two

[burnt briar]

I've taken both at the same time, so if I run out of death defiance, I start dealing a lot of damage

[burnt briar]

And also if I don't use death I'm getting killed much faster

[vivid flare]

My first and biggest tip, get used to running without Death at all. It'll free up 4 Grasp to be used elsewhere

Actually, can you just take a screenshot of your cards, post it to Imgur or somewhere, then post it here as well? I want to judge them

[burnt briar]

Okay, guess I'll have to train

[burnt briar]

Yeah just not right now but I'll send you in your DM tomorrow if you're fine with it (right now I can't)

[coral spindle]

LOL i had to use the supply shop to get it till 30 😭

[crystal glacier]

I just started a run so we’ll see how it goes but I’m loving Volcanic Strike

[stark zenith]

clang!

[timber saffron]

Love volcanic strikes so much dont let anybody tell you otherwise

[crystal glacier]

I’ll say, the one change I’m bummed about is the change to the standard keepsakes.

||I’d much rather have one gurenteed god at the start then be able to rarify a random boon once I find them ||

[stark zenith]

||but you can do both? put heph keepsake and you start with him and you can make a boon of his +1 rank||

[crystal glacier]

||Does Heph work differently? The two gods’ keepsakes I have doesnt gurentee they start the run unless I’m missing something||

[vivid flare]

The "A Boon of _ is likely" text still means that the game is forcing your chosen god's boon to spawn as early as it can. It's just got different wording so you don't get screwed by onion Vow

[crystal glacier]

Oh lmao I must have just been getting story events often enough that I didn’t realize

[vivid flare]

There's also still the chance that Hermes, a hammer, or Selene snipes your first room, though

IIRC, there's a story event where if you put on Apollo's keepsake, ||you'll get Hermes first room just because Hermes wants to prove he's the quicker of the two again||

[crystal glacier]

Lmao

[vivid flare]

And yeah, the ||Hera and Ares|| unlock events will supersede your god keepsake, but it still keeps the priority from your keepsake afterwards

[vast oasis]

You are guaranteed a boon or hammer when starting a run

[vast oasis]

Selene normally has to be forced i think

[crystal glacier]

Made it to ||Scylla||, got ||her down to a quarter health||

[timber saffron]

Shes Fun

[sonic bolt]

I stupidly ||lost count doing my first Olympus run and thought Prometheus was the final boss. You can imagine my facepalm after when I realized there was more. Shoulda known it couldn't have been that easy, died to some Tail miniboss|| (huge spoilers)

[timber saffron]

HEy big spoilers everybody beware

but yeah true

You are close enough to joining the #h2-discussion gang congratulations/j

[vivid flare]

Nope, I've seen some speedrun attempts where they go out and get Selene first room

Or was it 55F, starting Amulet?

[vast oasis]

Did they start with the keepsake?

[vivid flare]

If it was max Fear, they start Amulet

[crystal glacier]

Second realm spoilers

||HE PUT ME IN THE LAST GAME?????????|| That's cool as heck I hope that wasn't one time thing (don`t tell me)

[timber saffron]

YEAH

[crystal glacier]

Am I supposed to still be hearing the banshee screams after I die and am ||talking to Moros||?

[timber saffron]

Pft
Dont think so

[crystal glacier]

Well I hope that doesnt happen again, was annoying af

[gray cairn]

Perchamce report it as a bug

[crystal glacier]

Where should I do that?

[misty willow]

F10 in game

[royal plover]

idk what to do but

somehow i beat ||hecate|| first try but now i cant even get close to beating her

[brisk dew]

she's a tough one without a decent build, in my experience any throwing cast combined with some burn attacks makes relatively quick work of ||hecate||

Once u get a hang of ||her|| attack patterns u should be fine

[hollow nebula]

Just started playing the second one today! Already played for several hours. I am liking it so far. Any good tips for beginners?

[scenic arrow]

1. Eris goes away after 10 runs, don't worry.
2. Collect everything
3. You'll want the Tablet of Peace gathering tool early, to gather Psyche for your Arcana Cards.
4. Have fun

[hollow nebula]

Thanks! 🙂

[scenic arrow]

Arcana Cards = Mirror of Night
Ash and Psyche = Darkness and Keys, meta progression
There's also a lot more one off materials that you'll HAVE to buy, like Fate Fabric, so you'll need to play the economy more

You unlock cosmetic changes to the Crossroads a LOT later

if you have no idea how to get a material, it's probably from a later zone you need to reach, or requires a gathering tool you don't have yet

I think you should be able to see your stuff if you press i?

[hollow nebula]

Oh, I will give that a try. Thanks!

[scenic arrow]

there's not really direct comparisons to Diamonds and Titan Blood.

The functionality of Gems, Diamonds, and Titan Blood have kind of been split up amongst all the flowers, crops, and minerals

[hollow nebula]

Good to know. Thank you for the advice. I appreciate it!

[scenic arrow]

just keep unlocking all the incantations at the pot, and unlock new tools and aspects at the grounds, you want everything

[vast oasis]

Censor the part about the creature cause it’s spoilers

[primal trench]

I think is B by default

[vivid flare]

Nightmare is Blood

[scenic arrow]

sorta, yeah, but you don't need it for Mel aspects

it does mean you it takes a WHILE to upgrade nonMel aspects

[brisk dew]

where do u find the wool?

is that on the way to ||olympus||?

[stark zenith]

||yes, wool is polyphemus, boss 1 on olympus route||

[brisk dew]

aaaah alright

[shy zephyr]

no spoiler channel
look inside
spoilers

[shy zephyr]

this is spoilers too btw, hide it

[brisk dew]

Mb

[hollow nebula]

So sorry! I will delete the comment. I didn't realize that was a spoiler.

[stark zenith]

fyi, you can surround text in ||'s to spoiler it: ||text|| => ||text||

[true thunder]

Death to Chronos

[primal trench]

So mote it be

[blissful forge]

Moonlight guide you

[merry lantern]

I draw you down O moon

[upbeat light]

this chat is dead ig

[weary tartan]

be the change

[upbeat light]

im not in the mood to schizophrenically talk to myself

[scenic arrow]

hi me

[timber saffron]

Hi nt

[sonic bolt]

Unseen~

[scenic arrow]

Hades 2

[sonic bolt]

Hidden in the wild wood~

[normal cypress]

Blood and Darkness!

[primal trench]

Death to chronos

[winter flume]

Moonlight guide you

[tame blade]

[wanton plover]

next update should be around next month ryt?

[shy zephyr]

any time before june 20th, and it will be on a Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday

[primal trench]

Could be in the next hour for all we know

[lunar granite]

That'd be around my birthday if it were the case

[clear garnet]

anyone knows what will the next big update be about?

[shy zephyr]

boss fight improvements and (some) hidden aspects

though i also expect ||hexes|| to be reworked too

[clear garnet]

my bad i asked in no spoilers sorry

[clear salmon]

check the roadmap, they always eplain their plans for the comng months

[urban bobcat]

Man I sure hope

[stark zenith]

get the hades 2 feedback role in #server-roles

[alpine jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/anger-rage-kratos-god-of-war-yelling-gif-17149119

SPG, RELEASE THE NEW MAJOR UPDATE THAT IS PROMISED TO US IN SPRING AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[scenic arrow]

Hades
2

[sonic bolt]

Whenever I see this now, the only thing I hear in my head is that one dude going "KENDRICKKKKKKKK"

[timber saffron]

ZEUSSSSSSSSS

[vivid flare]

MUSTAAAAAAAARD

[uncut geyser]

Is it described anywhere how do various curses affect Guardians?

[vivid flare]

IIRC, Freeze either does nothing or only slows them, and every other Curse is the exact same as it'd be on normal enemies

[scenic arrow]

Freeze stutters them a bit I think

[trail vale]

SOON ✨

[tiny locust]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-mustard-mustard-mustarddd-kratos-scream-gif-6070580143570852852

[hollow python]

but no srsly

https://tenor.com/view/when-zac-sistas-s4e21-at-what-date-gif-26443318

[scenic arrow]

tuesday probably maybe definitely

(the patch that is, I hope you don't mean full release of the game)

[sonic bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/me-hwen-hades-gif-14252791926689336840

havent even played in a week, two weeks now? but im still thirsting for it

[hollow python]

Major patch ye, I understand V1.0 is not yet confirmed if 2025 or 2026, but with new Nocturnal aspects, It would keep me occupied for many months.

Also im looking for an excuse not to study lol, even tho I should while waiting for update (dw, I will, just eager for Hades 2)

[vernal dragon]

I love Bob so much

[sonic bolt]

dude's a cutie patootie. legit got teary eyed at the climax when ||they held him back, the actor was so good||.

[vernal dragon]

Yep

[stark zenith]

this was the one movie where ||they literally won by the power of friendship||

[timber saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/sentry-thunderbolts-sentry-thunderbolts-eyes-lewis-pullman-gif-15132088263420443497

[iron steeple]

That's one more day

[timber saffron]

pretty please pretty please pretty please pretty please pretty please

[scenic arrow]

update tomorrow right

[misty igloo]

That would be a spoiler 😔

[vast oasis]

Another day….

[timber saffron]

4 supergiant
surely tomorrow

[raven dove]

axe is

not very good tbh

||eris ||does way too much damage i can't believe they still haven't tuned her

like easily the worst boss supergiant's whole catalog

[scenic arrow]

she's annoying at frenzy 2

she's aight at lower levels if you play aggressively

[raven dove]

just terrible boss desgin

everything fast and ranged and hits for half your health bar

[scenic arrow]

be quick or be dead

[vivid flare]

I have two suggestions

[scenic arrow]

(ngl it sounds like a skill issue mostly)

[raven dove]

it's crazy bc like I do not think this of any other supergiant boss

[vivid flare]

1. Get behind her, she doesn't turn very fast
2. @vivid flare

[raven dove]

like in their entire series i've never seen a stinker like this one

[vivid flare]

Theseus and Asterius?

[raven dove]

lmao considerably easier

[scenic arrow]

man I'd rather fight the bane of my existence in Hades 2 I hate her character so much then do that super annoying 4th zone of hades 1 ever again

[vivid flare]

||Eris|| isn't even the hardest boss of this game, BTW

[raven dove]

we have ornstein and smaugh at home

[scenic arrow]

naw I despise them with EM

which I guess we'll have to see because we don't have EM yet

[raven dove]

imho they're easier with EM

theseus is insanely predictable with EM on

[vivid flare]

When Asterius becomes a Nutri-Bullet, and you are the fruit smoothie in the making

[scenic arrow]

honestly none of the bosses in H2 make me as mad as the ones in H1

you are just so much more powerful in H2

[shy zephyr]

don't forget to spoiler mark character names folks 🙏

[scenic arrow]

fixed

she's aight as a fight but I really hope there's no romance with her she doesn't deserve it

[tame blade]

Let the toxic yuri happen 😔 ✊

[frozen ember]

the axe is probably the best aspect of melinoe, it's very good

[hasty cradle]

hi guys i have a question

i just beat the game for the first time

is there any point to beat the game 10 times like hades 1?

is there any story after the first time?

[frozen ember]

define 'beat'

||there are two routes, you may have only cleared one||

[shy zephyr]

there won't be any post-final-boss stuff until the game is out of early access

[frozen ember]

well, I'd be surprised if you'd seen all available character stories by the time of first clear

but yeah the stuff equivalent to h1's ten clears isn't coming until 1.0

[frozen ember]

in fact I don't think you can, I believe a couple of characters are straight locked in nectar progression until you've ||beaten chronos at least once||

[hasty cradle]

erm

by beat i mean chronos

[frozen ember]

yeah you've got a tonne of content to do, ||you should have been told about the second route by now||

I forget the precise flag, it might be ||the run after the first time you get to Tartarus that Hermes brings it up?||

[hasty cradle]

how do i hide messages like that

[frozen ember]

||you write a message like this and it appears in spoilers||

[hasty cradle]

ohh ok

[frozen ember]

if you're on pc you can also highlight the text and it'll pop up with the options, click the eye

[hasty cradle]

||by the second route you mean the surface ?||

[frozen ember]

yeah

[hasty cradle]

is that its own fleshed out thing?

[frozen ember]

||Yup, full four regions with their own bosses||

[hasty cradle]

damnn that sick

im dying before i get a single item tho

[frozen ember]

||You get an incantation to suppress the curse||

[hasty cradle]

am i missing something?

[hasty cradle]

oh

you mean the spells you do in the cauldren

[frozen ember]

it is, I think, specifically ||Moros who gives it to you, though you may need to talk to Hecate for the idea first||

yeah

[hasty cradle]

i dont think i got any sort of incantation like that yet

[frozen ember]

||talk to people more, get your cards upgraded - you've got a while to go and there's either one or two weapons that need surface materials to be unlocked at all,|| one of them is (up to you if you open this) ||a type of mecha suit, if you want incentive||

[hasty cradle]

haha i just got given it now

thanks though 😭

||is there any use of doing more runs into the underworld?||

[shy zephyr]

spoiler mark this whole message

[shy zephyr]

and the second half of this one

also yeah, you can still talk to the npcs there, and you'll need some of the materials

[hasty cradle]

man i really wish there was more to the story

i guess i have to wait for it to release

is there any news on when it will?

[shy zephyr]

yeah the early access is to fine tune the game's balancing and make sure there aren't any bugs, there's A TON of gameplay content available, but not a lot of story

[shy zephyr]

there'll be at least one more major update before they start working on the full release, said major update will be before june 20th

[hasty cradle]

thats nice to hear, from what ive seen the updates have been really cool

i need to know though, like hades 1 ,|| is there a new god who helps you after you beat chronos the first time round?||

[stark zenith]

||I think Hera, but only if you go surface?||

[shy zephyr]

||2 gods, the first will appear after your first surface run, the other after you see the final boss of the surface||

both of them are really good so do get them if you're still playing

[hasty cradle]

yeah i have a few days so ima be playing a lot

thanks for that

[vivid flare]

||Ares as well, who needs you to get all the way to the final boss up top. Hera just needs you to do the Unraveling incantation||

[vast oasis]

In the trailers tho

[vast delta]

|| I fr was playing though the surface and was wondering "why didn't they add Athena from the first game?" And then I got an encounter Olympus and I was like "oh that's why" ||

[tame blade]

||Indeed my fellow hidden-text friends||

[jagged smelt]

||I am still so mad about it, athena's boons were my favorite in h1 and knowing that i can get her only once ever now and then makes me HURT||

[shy zephyr]

it was made like that specifically because they were too strong

there's even a special dialogue if you take ||divine dash|| 😂

h2 gods provide plenty of other defensive options though, you'll get used to it

[jagged smelt]

Oh?? i didnt know that

the more u know

[jagged smelt]

Oh im aware i already beat h2 plenty of times im not a new player haha, it still pains me a little

[vast delta]

ares's portrait is absolutely immaculate

[timber saffron]

Ummm SPoiler-ish?

(but true)

[vast oasis]

||echo can give you a second one if you get lucky||

[vast oasis]

It’s on the steam cover it’s not spoilers, same with the concept of a surface route

[jagged smelt]

||Huh? Doesnt athena appear only in olympus and echo in the mourning fields?||

[oblique yoke]

||athena keepsake in underworld to get it before||

[jagged smelt]

||OHH i didnt think of that, i gotta test it out soon||

[vast oasis]

Only works in that region but she can spawn anywhere with keepsake

[burnt parrot]

Does the heart symbol with a timer on it for characters mean their social thing is incomplete or needs time to activate? (When it says perhaps in the future...)

[signal bolt]

that's the amount of time that's passed during the interaction, affecting time sensitive stuff like flowers planted

i assumed the same thing lol

[shy zephyr]

it means it will be added in future updates

"future updates" likely being the 1.0 full release

[burnt parrot]

Ah sob....

[burnt parrot]

How do I get those little fish things? The white and red ones?

[carmine hollow]

For the heart events? You can buy them from the merchant once you have the fishing pier

[burnt parrot]

Ah

[scenic arrow]

oh the fishing lures

[wanton plover]

I don't know if this is the right channel but i haven't played hades 2 yet since i'm really waiting for the release. but do you think my 3050 ti laptop 16gb ram 4gb vram can run this smoothly? This isn't as heavy as AAA games right?

hades 1 is currently my fav and most played game so really excited for this one

[versed arch]

that should be plenty, 16 gb ram is good enough to run hades 2 very smoothly

[stark zenith]

I got 16g ram and gtx 1650 on a laptop, and it runs fine so you should be just fine as well

[wanton plover]

ohh so it's not vram heavy rightt? Thankss

[scenic arrow]

yeah the game has simplistic 3d models, and relies heavily on 2d art

[stiff hawk]

Is there would be romance with Chaos?

[primal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[sly pumice]

My 1660 was chilling at 4k

[vernal dragon]

it runs very well on my old laptop from 2019 ( which doesn't even have a GPU) so you're all good

[languid wasp]

Yes it’s good enough to run it on full resolution and 60 fps I think

[primal trench]

you can always just buy the game, you have 2 hours to try and see if it runs well, then refund it if its not running to your liking

[sly pumice]

Honestly 144 fps isn't out of the question. 4gb vram may be the limit for higher resolutions though

[languid wasp]

well Switch and iphone can run Hades so why not ;p

[hazy lion]

I’ve just started with hades 2 after finishing the true ending of H1. Man this game is great. Not sure what to expect extra after full release. I mean, it’s officially still in early access, but it feels like a finished game already.

[shy zephyr]

no ||extreme measures|| yet
no hidden aspects yet
and they are edging us with every storyline

so yeah it's just gonna keep getting better and better

[frozen ember]

it has a staggering amount of gameplay depth and complexity and just content in it yeah

story-wise it's not a competition rn because so much of it is missing but the gameplay loop is I think already a massive expansion in scope and overall improvement

[tall kernel]

any new hades 2 full launch news since nintendo switch 2 came out?

[scenic arrow]

no

[tall kernel]

okay, back to sleep

[scenic arrow]

first will be a major update, within the next few weeks

full release is expected late this year or early 2026

[wanton plover]

u think hades 2 will be on this summerfest?

[scenic arrow]

doubt

[wanton plover]

currently live rn

[tall kernel]

without spoilers, can someone give me a ELI5 difference in gameplay between Hades 1 and Hades 2? Hades 1 is such a great game, maybe one of my most played games ever, so I'm very excited about Hades 2, but also wondering if it can actually be as good as hades 1

[tall kernel]

without much spoiling, what is "expanded" or "improved" on the gameplay loop?

[frozen ember]

it's a lot more in-depth with a lot more axis of scaling and levers to work with on the player's end

in terms of expanded, minor content spoiler ||there's two routes, both are larger than h1's one||

[scenic arrow]

yeah there's just more stuff to work with. Like Hades 1 was like, 3 base moves, but Hades 2 is doubled to 6 with omegas.
It's also just less dash spammy, so your positioning feels more important, using stuff like the new Cast and Aoes.

[tall kernel]

do you mean, like the mirror, things that buff you permanently, and it takes longer to "max out"?
Or do you mean within a run of a "maxed out mirror" equivalent there are more ways to build out your build?

And do successful builds require more than just the key base boon for that weapon or a key duo combo for that weapon? Do weapons have very different builds that are both powerful but very different in gameplay? Does each weapon have different aspects that change the way they play quite a bit?

Will I think there are simularities to hades 1, or is every weapon totally different?

Will I miss anything in hades 1?

[frozen ember]

The biggest difference from H1 is H2 takes the dash spam playstyle out back and shoots it, there's no way to get a double dash outside of specific glitches. That combines with higher counts of more fragile enemies, different upgrade scaling, different weapons etc. to create a very distinct playstyle for Melinoe, compared to Zagreus

The equivalent to the mirror of night takes longer to max out, has more options, offers more power and has more varied ways to approach it.

[scenic arrow]

well Mel can sprint if you hold down dash, but she can't double dash like Zag could

so you're gonna miss that

[tall kernel]

is an omega like the same attack, but with an ammo charge or like a hold it charged up thing?

[tall kernel]

what is the "iframe" move in hades 2?

[frozen ember]

some weapons have omega attacks be similar, some have them be wildly different

[scenic arrow]

you don't... really have one? You stlil get one dash

[frozen ember]

Still dash, it's just she only has the one.

[tall kernel]

NO IFRAMES? yikes, that'll require some adjustment

[frozen ember]

No, she has iframes on her dash same as Zag, she just can't double dash, which pretty sharply cuts down on how good it is defensively — you're a lot more reliant on positioning and maneuver via sprint.

[scenic arrow]

yeah a lot of it is getting out of the way of stuff

[tall kernel]

i'm guessing there are still large circular wave attacks you basically have to dash through to avoid?

[frozen ember]

She has her own tools to control enemy movement and crowds with aoe nuke abilities and her cast, which is by default a massive aoe slow/root she leaves on the ground.

[scenic arrow]

yeah mel's base kit is a lot more fleshed out compared to Zag

[versed arch]

Not only does she have one dash, but the encounters are far harder than h1 chambers with lots more projectiles and enemies. Good luck!

[tall kernel]

is it graphically cluttered, or after you understand the game, not hard to tell what's goign on?

[scenic arrow]

it's graphically messy at high fear/heat I would say

[frozen ember]

it's not that hard to tell what's going on until very high fear but I run high fear so I'm probably a bad barometer, it's definitely a lot busier than H1

[scenic arrow]

it's pretty understandable at 8 fear and below imo

[tall kernel]

do you feel like you have the tools to dodge the bullet hell, or does it feel unfair?
Is a no hit run a reasonable thing?

[scenic arrow]

idk about no hit, but personally it feels a lot more fair compared to H1

I also just don't really vibe with H1 that much lol

[tall kernel]

what gets more graphically cluttered at "high fear" which I'm guessing is like high heat?

[frozen ember]

it's tougher but you can get much more powerful

[versed arch]

Damageless is reasonable, no hit is also possible at low fear but not feasible at 50F

[tall kernel]

is 16-30 heat and 16-30 fear similar difficulty or not very comparable

[scenic arrow]

Frenzy 2: Enemies and bullets are 40% faster.
Hordes 3: 60% more enemies
Fangs 2: enemies can have perks which cause them to shoot more projectiles and smoke and stuff

[tall kernel]

that sounds horrible, faster and more projectiles? oof

[frozen ember]

not super comparable

[versed arch]

It's very comparable, the bosses feel easier because mel can get pretty strong without a lot of rng, but the encounters are much much harder and longer. So it averages out imo

[scenic arrow]

I never got past 12 heat in H1, I was able to do 32 fear in H2 pretty quickly I guess?

[frozen ember]

I'm mostly thinking that heat in h1 was kinda messy, option wise

fear is more evenhanded but that also means it multiplies itself like a sonofa

[scenic arrow]

idk I'm not hugely experienced with H1 and its endgame

[tall kernel]

if I'm avg/decent at hades, how many runs till a clear and how many clears until "mirror" is mostly maxed, and how many till most weapons are maxed? How long is a run?

My hades runs are like 25-35 minutes most of the time, like it's pretty easy to clear with the 9 minute tight deadline... think they are similar length?

[frozen ember]

runs are roughly the same length once you know what you're doing, bit slower beforehand and a bit faster once you really know what you're doing

[scenic arrow]

yeah that's the surprising thing, runs are about the same length

[versed arch]

I maxed a save near optimally, and it took me 69 runs to get everything maxed, weapons and "mirror" and everything. If you're average/decent, probably around 30 clears? On my first playthrough it took me 31

[scenic arrow]

20 minutes-ish

[tall kernel]

Hades is like my zen game, after the kids go to sleep I get a run in... it's like perfect. Also with my drinking buddy, we swap turns on every room while coolaborating on the boons. We are so looking forward to hades 2

[frozen ember]

if doing meme builds with friends is your pride and joy hades 2 has you covered for yonks

[tall kernel]

yeah I remember when I first got hades, felt like godmode was a must... now it's blasphemy to think about godmode.

[frozen ember]

order of magnitude more build options

[scenic arrow]

In H2 I took like 11 runs to beat the final boss, and it took more like 20-30 runs to get everything important unlocked

[tall kernel]

cool, sounds like you guys don't think it's a step backward from hades much at all, but only better. that kind of makes me want it even more.

[scenic arrow]

game's not even done yet

[tall kernel]

say you've played your fill of both hades and hades 2... and you just want to do a run. Do you see yourself going back to hades 1?

[scenic arrow]

we're getting extreme measures in a few weeks

[frozen ember]

not really

[versed arch]

hell no, h2 is so much better

[frozen ember]

h1 would feel like a straitjacket I think

[scenic arrow]

I'm not a roguelike guy so idk

I don't really get the itch to "just do a run", I have other games on my backlog to knock off

[tall kernel]

wow... well good job on supergiant if they could follow up Hades withsomething even better.

[frozen ember]

the main thing for people coming from h1 is that if you were eternally in love with the double dash you might not have a great time

[scenic arrow]

yeah I wasn't a huge fan of the idea of them doing a sequel but the game is good, and much more my jam

[frozen ember]

because you can't play h2 like you did h1 you will shrimply die

[stark zenith]

went back a few days ago to do em4 (cause I hadn't done it before), can't say I want to go back for more lmao

[tall kernel]

why not? EM4 hades is pretty fun and the music melts your face.

[vast oasis]

Did you do the familiars

[versed arch]

I did not, I had the ||lotus|| but I did not do any ||chaos trials|| because they would advance the night, and i'd rather complete full runs for the ||obol points||

[stark zenith]

oh no, I meant that I don't want to go back for more hades 1 after beating em4

hades 2 feels a lot more polished heh

[hazy lion]

Met ||Chaos|| yesterday for the first time. While I do like the new designs of most gods, I’m not a fan of what they did to ||him/her||.
In H1 the design was way more uncomfortable even terrifying for someone with that much power. Now it feels like a random anime endboss character who happens to be strong.

[shy zephyr]

nuh uh, new design is goated

it's supposed to be this mysterious infinite entity beyond comprehension, it makes sense to have a design that is vastly different from everyone else

also, ||drip™||

[hazy lion]

Let’s agree, to disagree 😉
I thinks it’s too generic now.

[scenic arrow]

I think they look cool

[woeful vapor]

they look epic and I love how it's implied that ||they basically molted their h1 body||

[sullen nebula]

i love their new look, esp once you realise they're ||holding their old head which is itself growing a foetus||

[vast oasis]

They made it less primordial which im personally not a fan of

[sullen nebula]

i'm a fan of the theory that ||chaos deliberately (or unconsciously!) "humanised" their form after their interactions with zag and their reconnecting with nyx||. but also, as i've seen other people say: i'm nb and they're goals.

[frozen ember]

||it's interesting that it's specifically patterned after meg's form|| but I don't know that we can say that means anything in particular without more content on them

[wanton plover]

Update whennnnnn

[scenic tinsel]

I saw ||chaos new form as a reflection of their sadness after nix got imprisoned||

[sly pumice]

For me h1 feels too fast and zoomy. That has its appeal but I prefer h2's more tactical approach to combat

[knotty portal]

I would probably enjoy playing Hades 1 again from the beginning at some point, now that it’s been a while. And I think it would be easier to just hop into a run after not playing for a while, simply because there are fewer systems to shake the rust off of.

TBH, I have times now with H2 where I might like to do a run, but I can’t muster the mental energy to decide what I want to do.

[primal trench]

i play both games to this day

[tall kernel]

I guess I can't wait to play H2 when it comes to console. I wonder if I'll concur that h2 is more mentally straining or not.

[primal trench]

that kinda depends on you, also w pfp, great movie

[scenic arrow]

yeah, decent fellow

[primal trench]

i hate to die

[vivid flare]

I would sooner destroy a stained glass window

[vast oasis]

“More tactical” 😭

[sly pumice]

Don't 😭 me 😭

[vast oasis]

||try Medea and tell me this game is more tactical||

[scenic arrow]

||Medea is for the biggest of brains only, you must have an extremely high iq to play Medea||

[vast oasis]

low floor high ceiling

In general this game is significantly easier tbh

[scenic arrow]

actual facerolling my keyboard

it's easier for the right reasons imo

[sly pumice]

|| i mean yeah I've done 50f with Medea it's unironically a tactical aspect when you don't onetap everything in sight ||

[scenic arrow]

which is harder, 50 fear or 50 heat

[sly pumice]

50 fear out of 55 vs 50 heat out of 64

Apples and oranges, 50f is closer to 60h

[scenic arrow]

we don't have all the vows yet though, idk

in reality it's probably like, 50/72 or something

[versed arch]

55 fear is mechanically harder than 64 heat, if that gives you any context

[scenic arrow]

hm

[shy zephyr]

64 heat is hard because of approval process making it an rng fest

55 fear is hard because you need to be really good at the game

[sweet mica]

how many time left ?

[shy zephyr]

what

[sweet mica]

before the update

[shy zephyr]

probably monday

[frozen ember]

I don't know that anyone has ever updated to prod on monday morning without a gun to their head, tuesday is the highest probability IMO

[green gorge]

Hi there @versed arch
in regards to your feedback here: #h2-feedback message
a tldr, it's something that was implemented during Hades 1 early access and it was phased out by the dev team for several reasons (most of which I'm not privvy too) but on a personal note. Getting a piece of feedback heavily 👎 can be incredibly demoralising.
Secondly, your specific feedback doesn't follow the channel guidelines and has been deleted by the time you read this

[versed arch]

Got it. But there has to be some kind of middle ground, doesn’t there? When we see an objectively bad idea, one that isn’t thought out and will break certain balances or one that comes from an incomplete understanding of the game? Right now the only option is to reply to them directly, which is very confrontational, but just letting the feedback go by without challenging it also doesn’t seem right: it’s wasting the dev team’s valuable time to read, and if people thumb it up, it gives the false illusion that the idea is solid and liked by the community.

I don’t know, I just feel like there’s a conversation to be had here. I get that a bunch of thumbs down on a feedback will feel bad, but it won’t feel much better if someone replies in the negative and their feedback gets a bunch of thumbs up, which has happened several times. Idk maybe there isn’t a real solution to this and I’m just rambling

In the end tho it’s a decision by the dev team so this won’t go anywhere, nor do I intend it to

[vagrant finch]

Just to add my thoughts, I have 2 things to say on this. 1, I’ve seen thumbs downs options in other servers generally just lead to a lot of negativity and arguments which I think is better off just and avoiding, and 2, I think the devs have a good enough understanding of what is “really bad” feedback for it to not be necessary

I also think the devs are committed to reading everything anyway so they wouldn’t disregard stuff just because of downvotes

Especially since “good” suggestions still have the possibility of getting drowned out by downvotes, since a lot is still up to opinion

[quaint fox]

if you get a person is saying something like, oh this boss is way too easy make it harder, when it's a boss that regarded as being really difficult, a better alternative is make another, non-reply comment being like, i think the difficulty in that boss is really appropriate, or something similar. because if the comment asking for the boss to be harder has 2 thumbs ups, and the comment saying the difficulty was appropriate has 20 thumbs ups, that's pretty clear what people are preferring without bringing in the messy thumbs down

[green gorge]

lowkey I wish discord would allow for the disabling of replies in specific channels

[scenic arrow]

lol

do you guys dm every time someone replies in feedback

[knotty portal]

What the devs are looking for in feedback is what people are experiencing when playing the game, to identify what the problems are, not for ideas on how to solve those problems. Even if a suggestion would be “objectively bad” to actually implement into the game, its expression (and expressions of agreement) can still be valuable, because they are derived from the player’s experience of the game. It may take some triangulation to work out the motivating experience, which is why it’s preferred for feedback to be directly expressed in terms of experience, but a change suggestion is still a useful datapoint on player sentiment

[old terrace]

The thing about treating feedback as a 'conversation' is that to be able to do that in the most fair way possible you have to decide who gets to talk. How do you decide whose understanding of the game passes muster - 32 fear minimum ||surface|| runs? Sub 9 minute run times on either route? On the face of it, that probably seems extremely fair, because it's quote-unquote obvious that those people have played the game the most and understand it the best.

However: can you honestly say that you believe that that "best qualified" group of people would actually want to make a game that's fun for everyone across the widest possible range of playstyles? Speed vs. high fear vs. "I just want to see what happens next in the story"?

I've played H2 maybe twice in the last 3 weeks and that's because it's not fun right now. The ||surface|| is an overtuned slog that turns into a boss rush after ||Prometheus||, and without the carrot of story progression to convince me to try again, I don't. "Turn God Mode on and leave it on"? Yeah, I tried it, and had the fascinating if demoralizing experience of God Mode + Strength Arcana, a damage reduction that I haven't had enough math classes to be able to calculate, being insufficient to get me to ||Typhon||.

"Oh, okay, here's a link to a Guide to H2 for Casuals--" Is the game actually fun for everyone if the process of just playing it doesn't let you organically uncover favorite strategies for making progress? Have you ever used ||Twilight Curse|| to get through ||Tartarus||? Would you? If not, why? I have, and if my dps is high enough it works really well.

All that to say, I don't envy the devs the balancing act, but if H1 is any indication they're up to the task. Playing H2 in EA has been enlightening. Frequently frustrating, but often interesting.

[shy zephyr]

you gotta spoiler mark a bunch of stuff here

i see some boss names 👀

[versed arch]

you make good points overall and i don't disagree with you, ig i'm specifically talking about feedbacks that are rather obviously a spur-of-the-moment idea that would break the balance of the game, and having a broken balance is rather objectively not fun, right? like for example, i'm not going to thumbs down someone who wants a mechanic to be slightly easier even if i find it fair, because that's their opinion

[old terrace]

ack thank you - I am hugely used to posting only in the all-spoilers channels 🫡

[old terrace]

Right, but I do think that you're still backed up against the pretty fundamental premise of what "balance" means and for whom. Two examples, one recent and one that comes up often:
||The Hecate fight is slow no matter how strong your build is. Who cares? Speedcord champs? Everyone? Is that really worth a down-thumb from me just because I don't and never will care about getting my run times down? But for someone who DOES find it hugely fun to get a run time as low as possible, yeah, I can see where it would be like chewing glass to be up against a boss that, to their way of playing, just artificially slows the game down. Is that unbalanced?||

||Prometheus' memory game: LOTS of people, to my eye across the whole spectrum of skill, saying they hate it because no matter how you're playing - speed, high fear - it's hard. I absolutely love it, it's very narratively satisfying and I don't care if it hits me, I'll give the twerp the point. But if so many people think it's unfair because there's only two ways to avoid it, neither of which is "Just Use Hera,".. does that make it a balance issue?||

[versed arch]

Your examples are interesting but not relevant to me, and it's my mistake because i did not clarify that when I say balance, i'm specifically talking about things that make mel stronger. i rarely have suggestions for the mechanics of enemies unless something is rather obviously not working the way it's intended to. i mean the balance of everything you might acquire in a run to help you win! that's the balance I meant. At any rate, I think we largely agree

[eternal fulcrum]

just asking this in case anyone know... is the story of H2 nearing its ending yet? cuz I'm kinda holding onto the game for now while waiting for it to be completed (Still trying to get the unseen one on H1 and got other games to grind)

[shy zephyr]

major story content won't be added until the full launch

early access is for gameplay balancing and bug hunting

that being said, about 90% of gameplay content is available and it's already much more than h1, so if you care more about the gameplay you can already jump in

[trail blade]

Story is probably mostly ready but you won't be able to see any of the ending or postgame stuff until 1.0, but there's already more voiced dialogue than the entirety of H1 at 1.0.

[eternal fulcrum]

wut's the current version number btw?

[eternal fulcrum]

thanks but I think imma still just gonna wait it out

[tame blade]

v0.112020

[vagrant leaf]

Hi, I haven't played H2 yet and was I wondering where H2 ends right now? Is it already the final boss but without the true ending?

[primal trench]

yes

well technically its been like that since launch, but even more so now

[trail blade]

What is available:

• All biomes and bosses.
• Most of the pact of punishment's equivalent (still missing Extreme Measures but will probably get that on 1.0 launch).
• All Nocturnal Arms
• A lot of story

What isn't available:

• The post-game
• The later parts of most social links
• No hidden aspects like H1 (I assume they'll be added eventually)
• Some art assets, they're still placeholders.

[vagrant leaf]

Alright! Thanks a lot

[trail blade]

I got the game right when it entered EA a year ago and it was worth it then, now you have even more content. If you can deal with some slight temp artwork (that is getting replaced more and more) and no ending, it has more content than H1 did.

[vagrant leaf]

Nice! I'll buy it in the near future, even though I'll play it at the end of this year when I'll have more freetime.

[polar laurel]

Good chance it's fully out at the end of the year

[trail blade]

Yeah but they might raise the price for 1.0 so picking it up now isn't a bad idea.

[polar laurel]

Also might go on sale for the holidays. I do wish there was less of a culture on video game sales. It's nice to know what something is priced.

[scenic arrow]

I can't tell if factorio's pricing model is based as hell or annoying because it doesn't get as much time time on the steam front page

[trail blade]

Hades 2's only gone on sale 3 times (11-2024, 12-2024, 5-2025) and then only for 10% off, the game currently is extremely consistently $29.99 and if they do raise the price (say to $34.99 like I kind of expect them to) then any sale they do for Christmas would definitely still be higher than buying now.

[urban knoll]

Hey, if its possible for anyone to answer without spoilers that would be great. When hades II early access very first released I played 30 hours of it, to which I hit a story wall where I could no longer continue playing until later updates. Since that very first version, i have not played at all because I have wanted to wait til 1.0 comes out to play the story in its entirety. Without giving anything away, is there still story walls? Like can I play the game in completion yet or should I stil wait for 1.0, and if so is there any news on when 1.0 may be coming? Thank you!

[edgy rain]

Wait for 1.0, no info on that yet

[polar laurel]

there is quite a bit more content than in that first version and the gameplay is mostly complete but the story is not yet complete no

[primal trench]

The game is pretty much almost complete, except the story, so if that's what you mainly what, just wait for 1.0, there's no date on that tho, there's more story than the last time you played, but there will be another wall

[scenic arrow]

1.0 is expected to drop late this year, or early 2026

[vital summit]

Main waiting for 1.0 to drop feels awful

Not because I'm impatient, but because its building my anticipation

[scenic arrow]

don't worry, Foreman, it'll be worth the wait

[vital summit]

I hope so

[vagrant leaf]

The steam summer sales start in 10 days. Maybe there will be a small discount. I also believe that the 1.0 version will probably raise the price.

[urban knoll]

Yeah i dont want to play any further until the story is complete. I appreciate the response, i have 700 hours on hades and its probably my favorite game ive ever played so its killing me waiting this long to play II

[wanton plover]

updateee whenn (not really gonna play it since waiting for release but new update means closer to release date)

[primal trench]

Today

[celest jay]

bet

[placid jewel]

I’m certain this has been brought up by people before, but even if it’s really unlikely to happen, I’d love it if you could eventually unlock Zagreus as a playable character.
(Back to silence again for me)

[tall kernel]

needs v1.0 switch release date 😭

[tame blade]

I just want to know if will launch this year

[tall kernel]

think zag would have melo's weapons, just a skin, or would it be an unlock of hade 1 zag and all that that includes?

[quartz holly]

I'm so excited. Can't wait for the switch release date

[orchid bramble]

Is the 1.0 the next update to the game or the devs will give us new updates before the release ?

[placid jewel]

I’d probably go with the third one or a mix of the first and third. Definitely unique playing though.

[tall kernel]

i'd love a suprise expansion of hades 1 and include an act 5 and another god.. would love something like that.

i haven't played hades 2 yet so don't know what I'm missing yet

clocked 580 hours and counting in hades 1 though

[placid jewel]

Me neither

[ebon lantern]

New content update when I can't play the game for the next month and a half..... Man.....

Looks like Im chatting here for the next month.

[signal pewter]

Fantastic news!

Does 1.0 mean release?

[tame blade]

Yep

[signal pewter]

Thanx

Did we get Info on console release?
I know it will be Switch first, but the other platforms are obviously coming.

I don't think there were any announcements in that regard but I might have missed it.

Do we remember how long it took before Hades 1 got ported?

I think it might be a smaller gap this time around.

[paper osprey]

where can I find the updated development roadmap?

[cloud sundial]

i love hades!!

[scenic arrow]

2

[scenic arrow]

about a year I think between 1.0 and console releases for hades 1. Could be faster this time

[signal pewter]

I hope so.
I did early access on Hades 1 and I liked it, but I also felt like I would have preferred the final product where all the stories were complete.

That's why I decided to wait for H2 1.0 and learn as little as I could.

It's been a long wait! My laptop could probably run it, but it will be smoother on the PS5 (besides I like the controller better)
I might be in for a good 6 to 9 months...

Not sure I can hold that long though...

[scenic arrow]

yeah it was 11 months between 1.0 and consoles

[versed idol]

You could always plug your controller into your laptop if you don’t mind the performance!

[signal pewter]

I could.
Never tried to play keyboard either. Feels like a pad game.

If I can't wait I'll give it a try.
I have four copies of Hades 1 I could do two of 2!

[worldly pulsar]

Yeah what I've been doing is plugging my switch pro controller into my laptop and that's been great

Keyboard was just kinda a lot

[vast oasis]

Time to flee to this chat for the month

[surreal palm]

i plug my steam deck into my laptop and make use of some seriously janky scripting to get stable low-latency remote play over usb.

[scenic arrow]

yeah but thats one computer to another computer

[sullen nebula]

i use my ps5 controller for my pc

[scenic arrow]

controller is probably fine(or maybe I just cant tell)

[sullen nebula]

muting the main discussion channel for a while because apparently nobody is capable of using the search function 😩

[scenic arrow]

guys guys I will cry and break down if someone doesnt tell me who the hidden aspects are RIGHT NOW

[sullen nebula]

i also saw a "hey what are these new things i get from bosses with the grave thirst weapon" like that's not literally in the patch notes

[scenic arrow]

well to be fair, we are illiterate

[sullen nebula]

the update's been out for like two and a half hours, go figure it out for yourself 😭

average fromsoft supergiant fan reading comprehension &c &c

[scenic arrow]

5000 words is longer than every essay I've had to write

[wanton plover]

where can i see the roadmap?

[scenic arrow]

bottom right of the game's main menu

[wanton plover]

is there a link of it even though i didn't buy the game yet? just curious about how long will 1.0 take

[scenic arrow]

we don't know

oh man this new art when choosing weapons is sick

ok I almost died to 21F UW first boss

[cobalt rivet]

My guess for 1.0 is late October this year. It would be both thematically appropriate, give them time to have a vacation, and allow for more time to polish up the true ending.

[trail blade]

Hopefully Hades 2 and Minna the Hollower don't both release on Halloween...

[tame blade]

I accept any date this year lmao

Would be bad for me if it comes only in 2026

[scenic arrow]

October would be fitting, but too quick imo. That would only give them 4 months, when I think we're looking more at 6.

[tame blade]

Dunno, the first Hades had 4 months between the last update and the full version

I agree that they can use all the time that is necessary, but I really don't see this much of time until 1.0

[tepid plank]

I love that the run victory monologue art got changed to mirror Hades 1. I only did an Underworld run, so no idea if the surface screen is different

Also, the light rays on the Olympian portraits are a nice touch

[vast oasis]

Bigger game so way more plot and potential bugs to iron out, more boons to potentially rework, and them maybe taking more time just to make sure it’s as good as possible

[trail blade]

I can definitely see a November or December release, the game's a lot chunkier than H1, especially if there's a small postgame plot like it. I think it comes out fully in 2025 but I do think it'll be at the tail end of it.

[polar bolt]

Woke up to see that the update is finally out awesome

[sour light]

Im just (im)patiently waiting for console release xD still managing to avoid spoilers (i have the server mostly muted 😅)

[trail blade]

They say they're working with the NS version, so I wouldn't be shocked if the NS version releases "day 1" (or like day 700 lol) with the game.

[scenic arrow]

yeah Switch versions + PC 1.0 will be together. Console will come at a later date.

[trail blade]

Oh that was confirmed? Nice.

[scenic arrow]

they technically haven't confirmed a console release but I'm like, 99% sure it's gonna happen

[tidal moss]

They'd be stupid not to

[primal trench]

No need to offend them, but yeah we can def expect a console release on 1.0

[scenic arrow]

did herro get bonked

[primal trench]

Yeah, was found dead in a dark alley, 56 bullet holes

[scenic arrow]

rip

[primal trench]

Herro died so we could get patch today

[scenic arrow]

wait so if I hypothetically wanted 1.0 today...

[primal trench]

I ain't say nothing

[modest canyon]

had a question about the new fate quest to wake hypnos, is that in the game yet or will that be in v1.0

[primal trench]

Does it require entropy?

[modest canyon]

no idea im trying to figure out how to get the dream vapors but it doesn't allow you to recraft after you did the first incantation

[steep cosmos]

Going from dead cells to Hades 2 using auto attack is rough lmao I forgot you have to hold the button down in Hades lol

[narrow lark]

If you go on google trends rn there’s a huge uptick in the gods in the hidden aspects

[tepid plank]

sort of how like hades 1's hidden aspects followed the theme of ancient king-heroes, the hidden aspects here follow the theme of || death gods || from what i can glean from the 4 i managed to get right off the bat. can't seem to find the ones for staff and knives though despite having my only npc left to check being ||narcissus||, so 🤷‍♂️

[vivid flare]

You can only get one unlock phrase per run, so if you ran into your suspects and didn't get one, that might be why

Past that, there's a pattern that I'm certain you've picked up on by now

[tepid plank]

ah, ic ic. i assume then that staff is || circe || given that i encountered ||medea|| and got the skull phrase there. || artemis || being the phrase-giver for the knives seems appropriate

[vivid flare]

Yep, the phrase-givers are all NPCs who have an aspect for the weapon

[sacred imp]

okay so i found something kinda... gamebreaking

not mechanically, just... its hard to explain

[vivid flare]

Bridal Glow bug?

[sacred imp]

No

||Disintegration of Monstrosity is telling me that i have enough Z-Sand and V-Lens to craft it, as in the text is white.|| This was not the case pre-patch and neither the case with ||Dissolution of Time||.

[scenic arrow]

But you still don't have the third ingredient, right?

[sacred imp]

No of course not

[scenic arrow]

ok then yeah, same. It's probably fine

I thought you somehow were able to do the incantation, which would be dangerous, possible save bricking.

[sacred imp]

I mean i guess it isnt that big of a deal

That does tell me that whatever happens with the ||Dissolution of Time|| is most likely done so, i guess thats interesting

[scenic arrow]

they probably just set the number somewhat arbitrarily

[velvet tide]

I played all the content last patch, but now its back into this channel because I dont want spoilers for current patch

[elfin swift]

Same
Ive slowed down a lot, my playing is a lot closer to "try the boss then uninstall" but if we can clear hypnos and some new story stuff, i might play more

Cant wait for v1

[prime igloo]

idk if I’m imagining things, but does ||Typhon|| have new attacks? Patch notes says “adjusted behaviours”

[scenic arrow]

Yes

[sleek chasm]

Real quick: Can someone define 'post-Erebus'? Is it the region?

[vivid flare]

The fountain room connecting it and the next region, where you can swap Keepsakes

[sleek chasm]

Alrighty, Imma try to tag properly.

It's stuff we've seen with Hades but is still here in H2: the specific interactions. Tonight's sample is entering a boss/sub-boss fight while on low health. I love how in Oceanus ||Scylla will remark in a way that you look worn and need to appeal to the dress code. || It might be me but when ||you die while in this specific scenario, or maybe early on in the fight, she'll mention that there's still more to show.|| It's quick but still a bit sad.

(Mainly to practice tagging properly, but also showing love for the game.)

[vivid flare]

Yeah, that's a good tag

[sleek chasm]

Thanks. Hell, it makes me want to re-visit both entries to get them all.

[sacred imp]

why does success rate not work with grievous blow?

[vivid flare]

It should, it just might not be one of the prerequisites

Success Rate works on every random chance that isn't damage avoidance

[sacred imp]

i see

also strength got nerfed

[floral latch]

about time

[sacred imp]

as soon as i started using it...

[floral latch]

it absolutelly did need to be nerfed and still is a tad strong

[sacred imp]

yeah i guess

[shy zephyr]

wait how'd strength get nerfed? did i miss it in patch notes?

I'll be avoiding the spoiler channel for a good while

[sacred imp]

afaik, max level strength now grants 40% damage res (from 50) and 20% dmg bonus (from 25)

[shy zephyr]

the patch notes only mention buffs to unseen and excellence?

well deserved nerf and it's still a viable choice but why wasn't it mentioned 🤔

[daring wraith]

oh so that's why the no boon damage number were weird

[shy zephyr]

well it's ||no longer aphro's main point|| and most sources are pretty easy to reapply

[daring wraith]

why the spoiler marking

[shy zephyr]

this is the no spoiler channel??

[daring wraith]

no but what you said isn't really a spoiler is it

[shy zephyr]

changed game mechanics from last game do count as gameplay spoilers ngl

when ||ares|| was added as a main boon giver i was spoiled on the gimmick and got kinda bummed

[daring wraith]

But this is the H2 chat so that makes no sense to me

[shy zephyr]

a lot of people in this channel haven't even touched the game, they only ask for news about when the 1.0 launch is

[daring wraith]

oh rly better delete the message then lol. I thought this was discussions about the current state of the game

[shy zephyr]

you may head over to #h2-discussion and speak your heart without worry 👍

[daring wraith]

Oh wow there's another chat. Guess I can't read

[wanton plover]

question, in this update for example i beat the final boss, for the first time i can't continue the story anymore like hades 1?

[primal trench]

nope, thats 1.0 territory, just like hades 1

[rapid elbow]

can you romance multiple people like the first game?

[green gorge]

@lusty turret Regarding your post in #h2-feedback. #h2-feedback is not intended for bug reports, bug reports can be reported in game by pressing on your keyboard, or by rebinding the button to something unused if on steam deck or similar

[lusty turret]

done

[lusty turret]

was actually rather a silly bug. a boon and delivery selene boon stacked on top of each other and started following me around lol

[green gorge]

That does sound quite silly lol

[tepid plank]

Oh yeah, that happened to me too. It wasn’t game breaking, so I didn’t think much of it lol

[severe falcon]

If triple DDs are worth +120% life, it was going to be really hard to make that measure up to Strength at 50% DR being +100% life AND doubling the functional impact of any healing. Basically, in the most extreme case, Eternity was worth 20% more life in the last fight of the run, while Strength made the whole run better, and was sometimes also better in that extreme case too.

At 40% DR, Strength is +67% life, which means that there is a meaningful difference versus in how much damage you can soak up.

As much as I love tanky builds, this was probably the right solution. The only alternative would have been a huge buff to DD (like making it a recovery to 60% by default).

[weary tartan]

DDs are based because you can use pin and tooth and toula without worry or extra setup to refresh health

[velvet tide]

The only reason I sometimes use DDs is so I dont have to panic every time ||Chronos does his one shot attack|| final boss spoiler

[primal trench]

i just like dds

[steep garden]

I'm not able to play the new update yet, but on a scale of 1 to 10 how good are the hidden aspects?

[vivid flare]

None of them are bad, though the Coat one is a little clunky

[steep garden]

Dang

Thanks anyway, I hope the torches are goof

Good*

[primal trench]

8

[vivid flare]

They're face-roll good

[steep garden]

Sweet

[sleek iron]

Did they add a new animation to beating Eris?

I think she used to just like, pose looking at the sky

now she looks nervously at the portal opening beneath her

[scenic arrow]

I think the circle under her might be more elaborate, but I think her anim is the same

[sleek iron]

Hm. I may need to reexamine some older videos of her fight to compare