h2-victory-boasting

[crimson birch]

That didn't exist in EA, so

[tacit zephyr]

By "still" I actually mean relative to what afaik was in H1, heh. I wasn't around for H2 EA (or H1's, iirc)

[crimson birch]

Aye well I reckon H1 hadn't had anything quite like jpom either

[tacit zephyr]

I was one of those that waited for the game to come out and then I was actually gifted it before I bought it myself

[ocean jetty]

My partner wants everyone to know they got pretty far into ||Thessaly|| on their second surface attempt!

[olive vigil]

Nergal 45 was really chapping my ass ngl

[neat jewel]

Evil Eye

[worldly moat]

Evil eye 🥀

[neat jewel]

iIrc my Nergal 45 was Rivals 0 lol

[tacit zephyr]

Yay new surface PB (and also my first Medea win)

[olive vigil]

Sea Star hit every single heart that run

[olive vigil]

I turned off rivals 4, lost to Scylla then turned it back on lol

*first room was psychic whirlwind, i save scummed it and undo night

[heady olive]

Got the protective coating buff from Icarus and managed to keep it for the entire run

[neat jewel]

I am the #1 Fetching Array Mel Skull fan

Also why does slow projectile speed actually make Typhon harder lol

(not harder but I'm just not used to it obviously)

Also I guess I didn't manage to hitch both Promacles in time cause shouldn't Knuckle Bones be doing more than that with Epic Lv5 Hereditary Bane

[neat jewel]

MILC Man I Love Coat

[vale lark]

FRESH FILE LETS GO

[worldly moat]

Oh not taking apollo attack at the start is neat

[vale lark]

ong dude ive js struggled for a while so thought why not switch it up

[neat jewel]

I am so bad at aiming Beach Ball lol

[vale lark]

same lol thats one of tbe reasons it took me 7 minutes on gramps

[neat jewel]

Ignore damage taken to Chrobo and Cerb lol this is like the worst Circe build ever but the staff is just that good, 55f with Judgement no Forfeit

I was going to hard reset for Zeus/Hestia start but I got Gigaros so I thought why not play it out, never got Origination or Furies but luckily got both Death and Lovers after Hecate

Thank you Water Fitness and SpAff lol

[neat jewel]

Funny thing about Beach Ball for me is I get it mid-run and think "wow I am not hitting anything with this" and then it shows up on the damage board for 40k

[vale lark]

yeah its really good

[woeful cloud]

this build was soooo overpowered i literally one shot typhon through many of his phases!!

[neat jewel]

Apollo and Aspect of Charon go together like... Hermes and Charon

[neon grail]

supay 62f underworld

started with nexus rush, took the card for double strike & pyro but they didn't show up

and monkey brain took a challenge room in tart, but that gave me electric overload and bridal glow at least

[lofty oriole]

Toula gaming 🙏

[neon grail]

Does good work in Erebus, if only if she were less lazy lol

[lofty oriole]

Ugh legit. Why can’t she start off attacking 😭

62+ Supay has such a rough start. Props for doing it without Gigaros 👌

[pliant tiger]

https://giphy.com/gifs/true-correct-why-is-he-olLyDUpnv5z3xhmeyB

[red roost]

very first 62 F surface clear.. Supay on top!

time for 65s. im kinda scared lol.

[lethal flicker]

Struck gold with those core boons

taking Rallying Cry was a bit ambitious perhaps, was it forced by Denial?

[red roost]

Yep. The other choices were making me swap my core boons.

[lethal flicker]

ah, that'd do it

At some point someone will get rallying cry to proc with denial on, but I expect it will need heph and demeter on that same run

[red roost]

That run is probably the most insane run ive ever had so far.. it had me questioning my own dps output due to how fast i was clearing room after room..

[neon grail]

You can play 62f with other aspects instead

Or you can make the first max fear clear with Supay!

[red roost]

No one has cleared max fear with supay?

If so, I dont think ill be the one lol. But ill try to get to 67 with supay eventually.

[neon grail]

nope, Supay, Anubis, Charon & Thanatos have no max fear clears

[red roost]

Damn.. i can see why its hard with supay tho..

Imma struggle on 65s first for now.

[neat jewel]

Somehow an even goofier 55f clear with an even worse Cerb fight lol, got Vicious Flourish and Light Smite in Erebus so was praying hard for Zeus, didn't get him (and didn't even get Origination in Oceanus) so went Cloud Bangle in Fields (Hades boon was mid ass Old Grudge), got Heaven Strike and Reward Reward Reward from Echo and didn't get the duo, and that was the last Zeus I saw (despite having Travel Deal), worst Cerb fight ever, then Epic Renewed Faith in Tartarus just for safety though I didn't end up needing it

[olive vigil]

You’re a cat person huh

[neat jewel]

Cat bossfight when

[nova crater]

That's it?

I would have expected more

[red roost]

Tbh knowing how long the game had been out and how 67F is clearable by most ppl, I thought it had already been cleared with every weapon by now.

[pliant tiger]

wdym clearable by most people

only like

13 people cleared max fear

[red roost]

Damn.. thats way off than what i thought lol

[lofty oriole]

Tfw Thanatos doesn’t have a max fear clear despite being one of the more popular 55F weps in early access 😭

[lofty oriole]

Honestly thought it was a lot more lmao

[pliant tiger]

if sgg didnt remove the block on the axe everybody would have gotten max fear clears

[lofty oriole]

Thanatos with Block in EA. Gorgeous wep 💛

[nova crater]

The axe had a block?

[red roost]

I started playing on launch. have no idea how things were in EA.

[lofty oriole]

Yeaaa. Got removed when Coat got introduced iirc

[pliant tiger]

12 unique clearers in underworld and like 7 unique clearers in surface iirc

[nova crater]

Was it while charging omega attack?

[lofty oriole]

The special used to start off as a block and then ospecial was still the same

[nova crater]

I can't think of a situation where axe would block

Huh

Funky

[lofty oriole]

It was one of the safer weps for 50+ fear back then

[lofty oriole]

Crazy

And they all started off with Mel Staff iirc 😂

[lofty oriole]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/Ladder

You can see what’s been cleared and what hasn’t here^

[pliant tiger]

im trying to be one of the first people to get max fear surface rn

[lofty oriole]

Wish you the best man 👌

[red roost]

Thanks

[nova crater]

What's your distance pb

[lofty oriole]

Not touching surface at all so you can claim the first Surface steam deck max fear lol

[pliant tiger]

almost beating promacles by 1 hp

[nova crater]

That's pretty far

Granted without healing idk how well that'd stand up to region 4

[pliant tiger]

legendary assist

https://tenor.com/view/cyclops-ryu-dap-me-up-dap-dap-up-gif-2485274535169214603

[lofty oriole]

Still trying to do 65F all UW tbh

Thanatos has been a bit annoying rn 😞

[pliant tiger]

summit by itself is pretty easy to deal with tbh so as long as you dont get a room full of land dracons

typhon however is a different story

typhons got hands

im considering switching from mel staff to mel blades for surface 67f tbh due to how busted the nuts hit for it is

first time i got hera special tk reaper i got to promacles easily

and then i timed out cuz no skips olympus plus bnb hit frenzy so everythings slow mo

problem is early game mel blades aka no tk is so dogwater its actually insane

[lofty oriole]

Think that’s what Carrot did too. But for Artemis instead for the innate riposte

[lofty oriole]

Oh yeah forgot to say. If you want to you can upload your victories here if you have a screenshot or vod 👌

[red roost]

Yea. Im uploading my last run vid right now.

[pliant tiger]

except foolish frei purple and hookie ofc

[neat jewel]

I have been inspired to graduate from Romantic Spark-fishing with rerolls on Supay to trying FW with it and got the 55f clear first try (142 damage to Hecate and more to timer into Epic Renewed Faith in Oceanus), Nexus Rush until Fields endshop because I got greedy for duos, and the funniest part is I got Romantic Spark anyway in Tartarus endshop thanks to Heaven Strike from Boon Boon Boon

Without Gigaros start + Toula I probably die to timer in Erebus with how horrendously I played the Hecate fight lol

[lofty oriole]

Preaching the choir there mate 😭

Supay sometimes needs a bit of a headstart to get going 😵‍💫

[pliant tiger]

im giving them gojo levels of glaze

[lofty oriole]

Deserved glaze tbh. They’re insane

[charred cypress]

Checkmate deserves some glaze too

[lofty oriole]

Nah not too much, it’ll go to his head 🫢

Jkjk he’s great

[cursive panther]

When the Spark is Romantic

[pliant tiger]

just played some mel blades surface 67f attempts and im like

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-hi-guy-first-day-employee-gif-12583875

[cursive panther]

Triple Legendary plus Colossus Driver + Twisting Crash + Runic Driver WITH HEL HOLY MOLYY

[crimson birch]

*Holy Hely?

[olive vigil]

If this was hades 1 it would be the best build in the game

[neat jewel]

Shiva dash-strike gaming ⚡

[sour widget]

Evil Eye gaming

Did you only go evil eye instead of lion fang because you expected to take extra rooms?

[olive vigil]

Yep

Maybe I should level up the lion fang also

[sour widget]

Lion fang is always my secondary option to white antler

[rotund badger]

quite pleased with how I was able to keep this run going so long and win - my attack was a hestia attack, for which I never got pyro technique. My cast was aphro, which did just fine, and my special was a 10-second-cooldown heph blast lol. i really had to work for my damage, although gigaros dash, a late shameless attitude, and a few other handy boons kept things going! Timed out on my Chronos fight by 25 seconds, but 10 of them were Moros and I had 2 DDs left anyhow. Good fun!

[neat jewel]

Lost my previous attempt (which had Hera attack) to a Chrobo OHKO because my mom distracted me, this time I brought Wolf Howl to be sure lol (also, I wonder if Romantic Spark was doing anything or not)

[neat jewel]

BIG Hephaestus carry for my first 55f surface without Hitch, Security System let me take so much damage

[neat jewel]

I almost reset when I got to Polyphemus with 45 seconds left, knew I had a chance at winning when I beat him in 40 seconds, I shall never underestimate non-Romantic Spark Supay again (also Static Shock 77k when I got it mid-Olympus lol), if only Poseidon was Hephaestus or Hera or Aphrodite instead lol cause he did absolutely nothing this run

[warped steeple]

Finished!!!

[robust sapphire]

Big Shiva bonks lol

One of the more fun Fates Whim runs

Not having Born gain despite coming across Hera was annoying though

[neat jewel]

Most of my TK Pan runs have felt really unlucky (with room skips, not getting boons until late) so I can't tell if it's the weapon's fault or the luck's fault or my fault, I think I'll be slotting it in at B tier in my personally biased tier list (with the caveat of resetting for Trick Knives lol)

Stupid Athena gave me the wrong "DD" in Divine Dash when I was asking for DDs, locked in for Typhon though

[lofty oriole]

Knuckle bones making it to the damage board 😮

[neat jewel]

And I still took 300+ damage from Promacles despite doing the Hereditary Bane Knuckle Bones strat lol

[lofty oriole]

When did you time out? 21:00 is insane 😮

[neat jewel]

Though I'll blame timer panic for that

Took timer damage during all of Eris, Promacles, and Typhon lol

[lofty oriole]

Did you time out for prev bosses?

Oh LMAO

A W's a W 👌

[neat jewel]

I really gotta start memorizing Ephyra rooms

I often come out of Polyphemus with under 40 seconds when I could be banking so much more time

And my movement for room clear with some weapons is just so bad, no way I should be timing out so consistently even with amazing Hitch

Though like I said I felt unlucky with room skips

[covert glade]

divided room w/ piles of shields should be green, wooden bridge should be orange. broken chariots should be orange

[lethal flicker]

Room #2 feels like it should be a blue since it's just a small square full of explosions

[covert glade]

yep I'd agree

[analog oasis]

Thank you for this. It'll be great for my 67 attempts

[covert glade]

you havent seen it? arent you on the speedcord? lol here's the full guide https://mobalytics.gg/hades-2/guides/how-to-speedrun

[analog oasis]

I just push buttons until one of two things occur. I die or everything in the room does.

[neat jewel]

If you thought THAT timer panic was bad, wait til you see this: over 400 damage taken to Promacles lol, to think I Silken Sash'd for Olympus only to get no skips and time out in the middle of Promacles (though sidenote this is the first time I've had 5 different damage sources over 100k)

[analog oasis]

Im gonna do 67 exclusively after doing this

[neat jewel]

Do you actually Bell only because you like Eris

[analog oasis]

Yes

[neat jewel]

Cause that's awesome

[analog oasis]

I equip mainly in Fields because r3 is basically a free Keepsake in UW

[neat jewel]

Fair tbh I usually see high fear players go Sash to setup for Antler or Knuckle Bones by default

Not like surface where Knuckle Bones is almost always required

[analog oasis]

KB is required for Heroes if timer went to crap during Eris

Only made it to Heroes once on Soupy 67

[timber jasper]

23/24

[sour widget]

For what? Sub-10 underworld?

[coarse island]

There are so many better keepsakes though 😭

[analog oasis]

My time was better by a few seconds at least.

[coarse island]

Hammer, tooth, pin, Gorgan, onion (not on nergal), sash (also not on nergal), time piece, or even calling card 😭.

[sour widget]

Not mentioning region 3 droplet is criminal

[analog oasis]

These kinds of things are how I enjoy the game personally, I don't want to get grilled over Bell usage on max Fear.

[analog oasis]

I did that on my 67

[coarse island]

Oh yea!! DROPLET TOO

Droplet is great on fields 😭

[analog oasis]

Did gramps die? Yeah. Did I have fun. Also yes. Then its valid

[sour widget]

Fields for me is always droplet or gorgon

Olympus I’m more likely to take calling card or gorgon than droplet depending on the build

[timber jasper]

Yeah

[analog oasis]

I'd do bones

[sour widget]

Depending on fear yeah

On rivals Prometheus for sure it’s worth it

[olive vigil]

Lean into it. I get dopamine from plum’s dead flower emoji

[analog oasis]

If I'm doing 67 Fear it's always KB on Olympus for a free -¼ from both Heracles and Prometheus

[olive vigil]

Run hordes 3 and evil eye on 40 fear

Forego trick knives for reaper knives

Maybe don’t do that one

[analog oasis]

I run Hordes 3 every run

Extra healing for Nergal

[olive vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-helldivers-2-gif-11934485202053419711

[sour widget]

Of all freaking runs to get a new all-aspect PB

Very first run booting up my PC

Forgot to switch off frinos

Played a new aspect I hadn't tried to run with

[neat jewel]

Frinos Antler

[sour widget]

Forgot to randomize or record

WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE THAT RUN

[neat jewel]

Slow Cooker + Tall Order activation + Premium Service

[sour widget]

IDK why my omega attack missed at the end of P1

[neat jewel]

No hammers either wow

[covert glade]

dont worry, you'll start hitting sub 6 and forget this run existed

[sour widget]

Yeah I'm sure I will

Guess this time I will proceed to get an absolute garbage run over and over again and be annoyed

And this time I will actually bring the correct companion

[covert glade]

do you have any full recorded runs yet?

wondering if there's basic room clear things to improve on

[sour widget]

I definitely do too much Oattack

I need to use more normal and dash attack

[covert glade]

i mean, you said it was your first run today even so that means you can only improve from here

i think you'll hit sub 6 soon but then getting lower and lower is where the real challenge comes in

[sour widget]

Yeah now I'm getting bad encounter RNG. Got the slow nemesis, only one mid shop and no arachne

2:30 out of erebus despite good room clear

[covert glade]

time to start resetting for pace haha

[sour widget]

I'll see the run through but I'm 35 seconds behind my last run so not gonna go well

[covert glade]

for... practice?

[sour widget]

ye

[sour widget]

Saw the run through cause the build was funny

[robust sapphire]

Got my first 24f underground let’s go

Paid dues is such a comfort pick lol

It was a rough Oceanus

[sour widget]

Fig Scam

I got some really bad tartarus rooms, would have maybe been 6:35-6:45 or so had I not been fig scammed

[worn pasture]

My first time clearing 40 fear!

[olive vigil]

40k on total eclipse damn

[rotund badger]

that’s a lot of heroic boons!!

did you have steady growth?

[robust sapphire]

Zag keepsake maybe

[worn pasture]

^ also got bridal glow in ephyra though

[neon grail]

unga bunga gaming - nergal 62f surface

[halcyon verge]

aspect of hulk smash

[cursive panther]

If only I got the duo boon with Ares and Demeter

[olive vigil]

Once again the best Charon build possible but Mel axe

Three more to go for 45 on all aspects. Momus up, Mel skull and Charon down

Lunar ray parrying def saved me that time even tho I didn’t get triple beam

[timber jasper]

All aspects sub 10 underworld finally

423 nights and underworld clear 100 so that’s cool

[nova crater]

finally did a heph blast build. never done one before in 200 hours.

went pretty well, but low fear be low fear

¯_(ツ)_/¯

also i got unseen 1 💀

[charred cypress]

nice, now sub 10 surface next, here we go

[timber jasper]

Maybe

Still have a ways to go on that front

[olive vigil]

damn you didn’t even have a purple heph

[nova crater]

jpom and a punch of other poms is plenty good

[sour widget]

Yeah hitting Pom Pom Pom on it was huge

[sour widget]

@nova crater you should try this funny build let me find it

This was on hordes 3 grit 3 frenzy 2 just for fun

I just wanted to see how much heartthrob and heph blast damage I could get

It would have actually been pretty strong if it wasn’t on hordes 3 grit 3

[nova crater]

i should play on hordes 3 more often

[sour widget]

It’s fun honestly for casual play

I basically never die when I’m doing low fear so having more stuff to hit is fun

and adding grit 3 to get big end screen numbers

I also just realized lol

Traps was on my top damage cause of statues in Olympus

And maybe barrels in Thessaly

Heph blast builds are honestly some of my favorites in the game though

Chain reaction, rude awakening, seismic servo, cryo pounder, love handles

Tons of fun duos

Love handles sunny disposition is really fun

Sunny disposition is honestly really strong though if you take a weapon whose omegas can be taken over 40 magick with controlled burn or fine line

Which was what I did on Supay

[cobalt cosmos]

I got a win on my first ever black coat run

no fear levels right now cause I'm still trying to get through everything

[analog oasis]

Pick time 1 its free

And you get a nice purple skull

[cobalt cosmos]

but rivals is so fun...

[analog oasis]

With that clear time, time 2 should be free in most cases

Nightmare is necessary too

[sour widget]

Might as well turn on frenzy 2 since it’s free fear once you get used to it

If you never turn it off so it just becomes the normal game eventually

Like it can be annoying on some enemies early on like harpies, mourners, and some of the other guys that chase you

But once you learn to just use casts on those guys it’s not anything to worry about

[late crane]

MY FIRST WIN.. somehow but I WON NONETHELESS

[sour widget]

Cast top damage on torches is funny

Congrats though

[late crane]

Ehh?? Is that not how it works?

[late crane]

Thank you!

[sour widget]

Well just usually torches thrives on omega special for strong passive damage in a large area and it didn’t even get on your top damage

Although omega special doesn’t work with Aphrodite special since it’s too far away to get the extra damage

Stuff like Poseidon, Hestia, Zeus, Hera, Ares, or even Demeter is amazing on torch omega special since it very passively applies curses and damage to enemies while you focus on larger targets

Poseidon, Hestia, Zeus and Ares because flat damage

Hera and Demeter because curses

Aphro and Apollo aren’t as useful on special

Hephaestus is a decent pick since if you just keep your omega special up then your likely to hit the blast the moment it’s off cooldown

[late crane]

Oooooo I see I see

[sour widget]

Good example of what torch omega special is super strong for

[late crane]

WHAT

WHA-

[sour widget]

Flat buffs like static shock and Blitz

Yeah that’s playing at high fear with 60% increase enemy spawns after taking Hades in Tartarus which increases enemy spawns even more

[late crane]

Mann I didn’t expect that special would make you that..

[late crane]

And you’re just mowing down each and every one of them

[late crane]

That’s so coool whatt

[sour widget]

Omega special just gives you a ton of passive damage on a huge area

So you can just run around mowing things down

[late crane]

I LOVE THOSE KINDS OF BUILDS IN HADES 1

[sour widget]

But yeah next you play torches try running Zeus, Poseidon or Hestia on special and you’ll have a lot of fun

Or Hera

[late crane]

I WILL

[cobalt cosmos]

uh

[late crane]

This is like giving sour patchkids to a victorian child..

[cobalt cosmos]

2nd ever black coat run

[sour widget]

Last clip

Freezer burn is super fun on torches

[cobalt cosmos]

with rivals this time

(also first surface win)

why is black coat so goated

[sour widget]

Black coat omega special is certainly one way to play it

I did abandon that method a while back though. It’s safe but a bit slow

[cobalt cosmos]

i was NOT getting close to typhon or prometheus

[sour widget]

lol fair enough

If you’re gonna play that don’t take Apollo on it though

[late crane]

Man I can’t wait to try that! Thank for the tip! I Appreciate it!

[cobalt cosmos]

oops

[sour widget]

Take a flat damage buff like Hestia, Poseidon or Zeus on coat special

Since the individual rockets don’t do much damage

It’s better to have the curse on it and the flat damage

Once you get more into it stuff like origination arcana is huge

So having curses is big

[cobalt cosmos]

i'm so axe brained that i sprint straight to apollo

reg attack covering entire screen is funny

[sour widget]

Yeah coat loves Hestia, Zeus and Poseidon

Aphro is okay on attack though

Since the attacks are close range

[cobalt cosmos]

yeah i was trying out her on the reg attack to see how it goes

who needs a guide

(me prolly)

[sour widget]

Just think of it as “hit does small damage, take Poseidon, Zeus or Hestia. Hit does big damage, take Hera, or Apollo, but Demeter, Aphro or Ares are fine as a secondary.”

One second let me grab a thing

[cobalt cosmos]

its mostly weighing %s vs flats right?

[cobalt cosmos]

damn

[sour widget]

Selene coat, arguably one of the worst aspects in the game but its coat so it’s still amazing

[cobalt cosmos]

wait ares is in this game?

[cobalt cosmos]

i haven't unlocked him yet 😭

[sour widget]

Dash attack and normal special spam is what coat loves

You should get ares after reaching Typhon for the first time

[cobalt cosmos]

well

[sour widget]

If you haven’t seen him yet that’s weird

[cobalt cosmos]

that's convienient

[sour widget]

Have you gone underworld since reaching Typhon for the first time?

[cobalt cosmos]

i just got there like 5 minutes ago

i'm still on vic screen after beating him

so prolly haven't triggered whatever the trigger is

should probabaly do story stuff

[sour widget]

Yeah it should just require you to reach Typhon

Not even beat him for the first time

And then ares should appear first on your next run

[cobalt cosmos]

who needs to learn a boss pattern

just win

[sour widget]

Me trying to kill Eris without her flying away a single time besides final phase

[cobalt cosmos]

(also use the healing hex maxxed out to avoid learning attacks)

I took over 400 dmg during that fight 💀

[sour widget]

Yeah I still struggle with the rivals versions of Typhon and Chronos

[cobalt cosmos]

i figured that the suped up end bosses would be crazy

considering the first game

[sour widget]

Not gonna post a clip of what those look like cause that would be spoilery to you

[cobalt cosmos]

ty

[neat jewel]

I would say the difference is (most of) the souped up not-final bosses are actually crazy hard compared to normal whereas in H1 it was a minor difficulty up

[sour widget]

But they’re very tough. I’d say still rivals Scylla is top 3 if not top 2 hardest rivals bosses

[cobalt cosmos]

oh no

[sour widget]

Yeah even the smallest difficulty increases are pretty rough on your first tries cause they significantly change up attack patterns

Like me getting hit over and over again by rivals poly because I forgot he does the wave kick after the big stomp and such

[cobalt cosmos]

I have not re-attempted rivals hecate since i got my ass beat the first time

[sour widget]

Oh yeah she swept me the first time I fought her

You’re not alone

[cobalt cosmos]

but cyclops who i forget the name of has been no hit

he's much easier

[sour widget]

Polyphemus is mostly just annoying cause of poison

[cobalt cosmos]

i panicked on my first attempt

got flashbacks to hades 1

[sour widget]

He does more follow-up attacks on rivals

Because normally he just does single attacks

But rivals he does two-hits

Rivals Scylla is gonna kick your ass the first time I’m sure

[cobalt cosmos]

scared

[sour widget]

I maintain it’s top 3 hardest bosses at the least

Rivals Typhon and Chronos are probably 1 and 2 or 1 and 3

But rivals Prometheus is also really hard

Rivals cerb is pretty tame but can have some nightmare patterns that get annoying

[cobalt cosmos]

i hadn't beaten prometheus until the last run

he kicks my ass already

[sour widget]

If you enjoyed Hades 1 there’s a certain H1 boss you’ll get flashbacks to on rivals Prometheus

[cobalt cosmos]

:(

anyway

must story progress

[sour widget]

Go play game

[cobalt cosmos]

then it's back to only using axe and black coat

there are no other weapons in this game

[sour widget]

Circe staff is calling to you and saying “pick me I’m meta”

[cobalt cosmos]

nah

[gilded ravine]

attack is fake

[sour widget]

Why blackened fleece and not lion fang when most of your damage isn’t coming from omegas?

[cursive panther]

well I was hoping to get a omega attack build

but unfortunately during Olympus I forced myself to do special

also just wanted to use it during the run

[neat jewel]

58 fear with Hera + Heph Mel Staff! Timeout panic vs Prometheus and failed tongue dodges vs Typhon made it slightly interesting, sadly missed out on Chain Reaction (technically seeded because I was planning on Morrigan 55f but the hammer was bad so I switched to staff and also I only recorded starting with Eris)

[ashen hill]

First time beating rivals chronos, though admittedly also the first time going in with that being the explicit goal. So technically first try? xD All damage before reaching him also was armor, so I also only started loosing life points during the final fight

[noble ginkgo]

Great Chaos Below, first try but the DPS was bad, also my first time playing frenzy

[lofty oriole]

Congrats! Is that a new fear PB? 😮

[neat jewel]

Yup my only 58 after 9 55s, only missing Rivals 4 for 62 now which... I mean I guess I did have 553+ effective HP left after already taking 2 stupid tongue hits so maybe I could've done it

[lofty oriole]

Very doable. Best of luck for the 62 grind 🙌

[neat jewel]

That's if I ever decide to do it 😅

[neat jewel]

58f underworld with Mel Staff, Epic Heaven Strike + Shimmering Moonshot + Sworn Flourish + Static Shock by Erebus miniboss is CRAZY lmao #justhit

Only really got nervous when I triggered pin during Cerberus phase transition to Wavemakers and Tempii, didn't take any damage from Cerb himself though

[noble ginkgo]

and there it is

[cursive panther]

Congrats!

[cursive panther]

Congrats on finishing the story

[ashen hill]

And rivals Typhoon now too. Decently happy with the run, only really would've wanted the Attack and Special boon switched but worked out in the end anyway

[pulsar pilot]

💪🏻

[cursive panther]

[marsh condor]

first ever staff surface clear at day 14
Those casts be going crazy
Typhon was surprisingly easy, he didnt really do anything

and of course i had to try a speedrun on day 14
New pb

[cursive panther]

not my proudest build but decent

wispy wiles was at 16%

[open osprey]

@sour widget I got him!

[sour widget]

And a respectable first clear time for sure

[neat jewel]

I didn't realize Success Rate would change the number on the Mortality gauge but it makes sense

[sour drift]

took longer than usual bc i was kinda distracted but yeah look at the scorch damage

burning desire is so broken i love that boon

[sour widget]

Bit of a sloppy kill but this was a funny run

[plucky widget]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/936065779298873414/1484755342385746010/2010B01.JPG?ex=69bf61ab&is=69be102b&hm=d8e28dc1bdfacb084281178fbbcc55db3a5372a553776c706c28df2e9de87ddd&=&format=webp&width=1115&height=628

i had yet to do a proper cast run or beat typhon with the staff so this was fun

[neat jewel]

I love Lightning Lance + Winner's Circle lol so fun just dropping casts everywhere

[sour widget]

No snow queen + casual + bad at game

But like if I was going serious yeah wantler all day

[analog oasis]

Ohh

[sour widget]

The run was long lost way before that

It was super slow in oceanus and I just ran with it cause the build was gonna be funny

[neat jewel]

Game edged me SO hard on Anus Affront, had Zeus + Ares + Light Smite IN EREBUS, but didn't get Vicious Strike until Fields final encounter, only got Anus in Tartarus endshop

[olive vigil]

There’s 45 on all uw

[neat jewel]

Absolutely CURSED Circe 58f win where I blundered buying a mystery boon in Olympus which forced me to sac Storm Ring for Engagement Ring, took 5 billion damage, and had Mirrored + Wicked Thrasher which would've been so much better with Zeus and Hera swapped lol (and I still didn't use the attack combo lmao)

[lofty oriole]

Vow of denial giveth yet taketh 💀

[neat jewel]

Oh also side effect of taking Gale instead of Raki, no Psychic Leash on the damage board

[worldly moat]

You just werent trying hard enough 🥀

[sour widget]

Just takes a bit more work since you gotta dash through guys but not too far or else gale also moves past them

[worldly moat]

Psychic leash normally ends up on my high fear damage boards so :P

It just takes more effort than raki since raki doesn't really move around

[neat jewel]

Yeah I think for surface it's less of an issue for me to not think about the leash with Gale since it's less of a slow start than Erebus

Here, a more "normal" Circe 58 with no stupid sacrifices, another one with the Anus god pool in Erebus but I never saw Light Smite this time

And also obviously everything hits harder on surface so Gale is even more important

[neat jewel]

58f with Nyx my beloved, Furious Ripper Nova Rockets go brrrrr

[plush stirrup]

Man I need my sister's laptop 🥀

Exams are over, and it doesn't feel complete without Hades 2 vrooo

[robust sapphire]

Behold the night’s champion, with my beloved Circe

I avoided 32f for a long while but got it first try (still die in great chaos below though)

The oath was these + return and shadow

[lofty oriole]

Than Axe 65F. Deffo one of the harder 65 wins recently jfc 😬

[crimson birch]

Eyy congrats! GCB is definitely harder in many respects -- you don't get to set yourself up with the right tools for success.

[lofty oriole]

300k with special sheesh 😮

[neat jewel]

Me when I actually use % instead of flat damage and curses

Maybe I should dial back my dislike for Apollo and Aphro attack/special lol

[lofty oriole]

Deffo not the worst choices with Nyx provided you have Ripper/Shimmering

[neat jewel]

My fav will always be Hera though especially for surface

[lofty oriole]

Hera Nyx is such a stupidly strong build 💛

Esp with ShimRock

[lofty oriole]

Fraction of a second again… 😓

[robust sapphire]

Vow of denial is actually a buff, change my mind

I had island getaway too, couldn’t fit it in

[neon grail]

first 65f clear! chat (nyx surface)

[lofty oriole]

Congrats!

Looks like a pretty clean Typhon fight from the damage board

Auto seeker doing the most damage is a mood 💀💀

[neon grail]

Antler turns Typhon fight into a joke really

Auto seekers & stalkers are my bane of existence in this game

And then there were Charybdis & Icarus rooms back to back

[lofty oriole]

Pain 😭

Did he at least give you Protective coating?

[neon grail]

Yep , 100 armor is really good at least, lasted till heroes

[lofty oriole]

Nice

Do you have a vod? 😮

Pretty bad with coats myself so I’m interested to see how you play them

[neon grail]

Yep, gonna upload sometime this week I think

[neon grail]

Bash my head into enemies, cast & go away a bit and then spam special

I don't use the other coats really

Sometimes I use the attack or dash strike for close enemies

[tacit zephyr]

New underworld PB

(also first Shiva win)

[pliant tiger]

max fear surface pb 🔥

guys in the speedcord vc made me antler olympus so tooth pick here

i then proceeded to die to p1 typhon cuz im rusty af

[lofty oriole]

Congrats on the promotion to Typhon fumbler now 🥳

[charred cypress]

Speedrun Surface PB

https://youtu.be/-yCERYn_ZTw

[noble ginkgo]

woah, Flash Fry is really underrated

[rotund badger]

is it? 😅

I feel like people love it, it’s a really handy room clear damage boon!

[lofty oriole]

Without vow of wards, it can be fun seeing it just annihilate fish rooms completely 😂

[noble ginkgo]

this was with wards actually, stil 35k damage

I should take this more often

[sour widget]

It’s very much a “I got Hestia in Erebus so might as well” boon

Like it becomes pretty pointless after Oceanus but if you get it before that there’s not much reason not to take it unless the alternative is a core boon to your build

[crimson birch]

IDK it puts in work in some of the Bad Tartarus Rooms

Also Cerb's Most Annoying Choice Of Adds (five million of the little guys)

[sour widget]

Yeah that’s fair, it’s situational is all I mean that you’re more likely that it’s gonna do very little

It’s nice when you have it and need it after Oceanus

[lofty oriole]

Praise any boon that can kill all those annoying fish asap for me 👌👌👌

[rare parcel]

I just had a Frenzy 2 Typhon battle that I got not hit on babilaty phase? Ok, I'm not complaining

[lofty oriole]

Love to see PosAtk on Anubis 👏

Also it’s been a while. Heya 👋

[rare parcel]

Funny enough, my last run before I took a break from the game was also an Anubis with PosAtk lol

[lofty oriole]

Has the time off made you reconsider taking Time 3? 🫢🫢

[rare parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[olive vigil]

The air quality dream and with that, 45 on all aspects

[tacit zephyr]

Isn't the usual victory boast but I'm actually seriously proud of this

Was actually surprisingly doable, did it first try which was a surprise

[rare parcel]

I love Coffin Nail

[neat jewel]

Not everyday I see Froth with that much

[tacit zephyr]

Heck yeah, I WAntlered Ephyra without using a DD and I think... 1-hitted? Didn't pierce Lovers, Polyphemus, took no damage during fight

And Heroicized Static Shock after :D

[desert steppe]

deathless chronos :D
on literally one hp :D

[cursive panther]

Fastest run on the surface with Charon WITH 9 MINUTES ON THE CLOCK HOLY

[tacit zephyr]

Actually wait I sent but then deleted but what I found wasn't for Charon

That might be the WR for 32+ fear Charon in V1+? It looks like there's faster pre-1.0 but idk how much has changed

[neat jewel]

Arc Flash is... good? (on Supay) Also I reset Pin like 4 or 5 times in Fields and Tartarus lol, also also I've never had Cut Above do that much and without any duos too, also also also Twilight Curse was pretty big as it always is, and Supay charges it so fast (but I always forget that I can't charge hex while enemies are spawning lol), also also also also no rush boon Supay ftw

[tacit zephyr]

How on earth did you end up with Omega Special as the only base kit in your top 5 and Gigaros Dash above it?

[worldly moat]

supay moment ig

[neat jewel]

That's how low the base damage of Supay is, only time I've ever had a Supay weapon damage number over 50k was when I had Demonic Cell + a +14 Slow Cooker

[lofty oriole]

It’s not uncommon for Gigaros to be on the damage board for Supay since you’re constantly dashing

Especially if you start with it in Erebus

[neat jewel]

Now if only it got the aspect bonus lol

[pliant tiger]

been a while since ive done a fun run

[sour widget]

“Fun run” on 62 fear 💀

[worldly moat]

once you do anything higher 62 feels like a break lmao

[pliant tiger]

when youve experiences the horrors that is max fear 62f starts to become ez

[tacit zephyr]

Is there a category for 67 Fear, rank 1 weapon, no keepsake, no winnability-affecting incantations? are there any other specifications that would be needed to make it "minimalist"?

[pliant tiger]

thats legit impossible nobody would do that

[tacit zephyr]

Hmm, might be too much with timer. Could remove the Time vow :D

Though at that point it's "speedrunning" in a similar sense to Zelda low% runs albeit less extreme

[pliant tiger]

but then itd be 64f

[tacit zephyr]

Well yeah so not a 67f run technically but otherwise.

[pliant tiger]

HOLY NUTS HIT 67f surface training run successful

strength no lovers ofc

activated all the infusion boons too damn

even rallying cry

[sour widget]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[noble ginkgo]

why strength and no lovers when playing antler? is there some hidden tech

[pliant tiger]

training for max fear

[noble ginkgo]

ah ok, good job then!

[sour widget]

Yeah gotta train for not getting hit

Also there’s your evidence of how strong Mel staff special is @noble ginkgo

[pliant tiger]

i think im confident that i can beat max fear after that run i just need to hit the right build and luck

[noble ginkgo]

tbf, he got all together, that's OP as hell

[sour widget]

That’s the amazing build we were discussing earlier with dual-shimmer-hitch

[sour widget]

Ehhhh not really since none of those buff his damage on his special

[pliant tiger]

i got all together at summit endshop and i didnt really need it anyway

[sour widget]

Rallying cry is the only one that buffs damage in any way and that doesn’t apply on single targets for hitch

[worldly moat]

Now just get the exact same luck 😌

[noble ginkgo]

but yeah I can see it's the blitz/sworn dual/shimmering meta build

[sour widget]

All together is anywhere from borderline worthless to decently powerful, but I wouldn’t say OP

[pliant tiger]

trust

https://giphy.com/gifs/oh-ooohh-of-course-NcrhM3USM6TABpus85

[sour widget]

Obviously getting something like slow cooker on an Apollo + Hera build would be decently strong from all the fires but totally pointless on other builds

But getting rallying cry + frosty veneer + air quality on a build that doesn’t have enough to activate any of them, let alone benefit significantly, is pretty pointless

[noble ginkgo]

I remember the couple times I got all together all the infusions were activated, I guess it's random though? Hera doesn't care what you actually have?

[olive vigil]

I’ve had all together save my ass when getting water fitness and no Poseidon in my god pool more than once

[sour widget]

Yeah it’s entirely random so it can be amazing or absolutely worthless

[sour widget]

Yeah and you probably have a water or two from born gain and bridal glow being water

[neat jewel]

I thought I had gotten a bit better at Rivals Hecate and Scylla on Pain 3, clearly not as I had to get saved by Renewed Faith in Fields

I blame Hera for not showing up until Fields after I got her (Bridal Glow) in Erebus midshop, held out for her Special lmao, would've made Scylla so much easier

[olive vigil]

And from dem

[noble ginkgo]

was that Rivals Chronos or the regular one

kinda crazy how you're better at Chronos than the first 2 bosses

[neat jewel]

Yeah just normal I haven't touched scary gramps in forever

[lofty oriole]

You’ll get there eventually 🙏

[analog oasis]

My record for coat now at 49 Fear

[lethal flicker]

Got a +12 King's Ransom at the end of Erebus and then echo came along. Chronos got completely evapourated, shame about a bunch of other random bad luck that slowed me down

You gotta love it:

[sour widget]

Holy moly

[noble ginkgo]

I love Thanatos so much

also, this was lowkey harder than 100% achievements

[lofty oriole]

Congrats on the funko pops 👏

Mel being borderline obsessed with them is kinda sweet 😂

[rotund hamlet]

wth ive never seen those

[pliant tiger]

have u ever maxed out a bond

[marsh condor]

dang
Whats the materials required

[noble ginkgo]

just kudos, like 700 per each? not sure

[marsh condor]

oh thats fine compared to the badges

[noble ginkgo]

don't bother with badges until you've done literally everything else in the game

[marsh condor]

[neon elm]

This build was soooo insane. I got the ice and fire combo for the first time and absolutely bullied most enemies with it. Building up crazy scorch before triggering it for 2k damage at once with an ice cast goes craaazyyy

[rotund hamlet]

no joke i never saw dora in this area 😭

[coarse drift]

axe my absolute goat omg

crushing first chronos victory i love this thing

[coarse drift]

i didn't realize that the moon beam armor would absorb any single instance of damage

so i could just facetank a chronos sweep if i had my beam up
it proc'd after like 2 omega attacks so it was almost always available

[coarse drift]

not sure if that was common knowledge but i've been trying to avoid #h2-builds-and-combat etc for potential spoilers since i'm newish. i still haven't gotten past prometheus

[cursive panther]

ggs

[noble ginkgo]

wait until you get the Thanatos axe, same moveset but much faster, it's one of the best weapons in the game

[analog oasis]

You spelled Nergal wrong

[coarse drift]

i tried it but i went back to melinoe because i had extra damage but once i find out how to rank thanatos more i'll try it out again

[noble ginkgo]

yeah Thanatos needs max rank to be good, it's only 5 nightmare though, won't take too long, keep doing the testaments

[sour widget]

Calling Thanatos one of the best weapons in the game is hilarious

[analog oasis]

Agreed

Its fun but not practical really as all other Axe aspects outshine it

[sour widget]

Than hasn’t cleared 67 or 65 fear so I wouldn’t call it amazing

[analog oasis]

Than hasn't done 65?

[sour widget]

Oh wait no there’s a 65

[analog oasis]

Challenge accepted

[sour widget]

I was looking at crossroads and didn’t see the ones further down

[analog oasis]

I've done a few 65s with Nergal and one Medea

And one 64

[sour widget]

There’s 3 65 clears, two from aki and one from purple

[analog oasis]

I might try Than 67 for lols

[worldly moat]

Every weapon has cleared 65 :D

And we're at a point where most things that arent mana weapons have cleared 67 iirc

[sour widget]

Yeah I’d just missed it was all

[analog oasis]

I'm working on a 3rd 67 clear. Got to gramps for a third time with Nergal

Then after that defeat, went upstairs and died to Eris

Will post here when I clear either

[sour widget]

remind me to never piss off hephaestus on pain 3

They really ought to increase the time you have to dodge that cause if you ever dodge right before that circle shows up you're nearly guaranteed to get hit by it

[neat jewel]

Yeah I really have to preserve my dash in those family disputes which is not good for me as a dash-strike spammer

[olive vigil]

Heph legendary on Thanatos is very very fun

[sour widget]

Didn't realize this thing had the swift buff from fangs and bro caught me at light speed

[neat jewel]

Average Thessaly boat entrance:

Next time he's gonna get you from off screen

[sour widget]

Average Boozer experience

I'm a moron

That fight was so free and I gave up two DD's for nothing

[lofty oriole]

Kinda sad cuz it used to be one of my favourite aspects at the start 😭

[lofty oriole]

https://youtu.be/IWUrBiy61OQ?is=gteqjIEyUdfv6Ovd

Got this the other day during Thanatos week. It wasn’t fun 💀

[sour widget]

Max lawnmower?

[lofty oriole]

I hate it when you lose a DD just when they’re about to die 😭

[lofty oriole]

Thanatos Max fear will be cleared when raijy feels like doing so 😂

Damage output at 65+ is kinda bleh

[sour widget]

Damn it I just hit the wrong button and accidentally took a hera instead of purging and now I gotta give up glamour gain

[lofty oriole]

Really feels like it needs an early Seething/Psychic or Hera to get going without timing out

[neat jewel]

Ooh I did not see it was a 56f run, what's left off, Scars 3 and Rivals 4?

[lofty oriole]

Nuuuuu 😭

[sour widget]

Pain 2 hordes 1 scars 2

It's fine I choked anyways

I might just do hordes 3 and drop the pain 2 to make bosses easier

[neat jewel]

Yeah I feel like Circe doesn't struggle with timer once you get Storm Ring anyway

[sour widget]

Well we can hope I get it again then

I got Selene first reward and accepted it cause of gig dash and banked on getting Hestia

Never got Hestia

Really wanted hestia godsent but no dice

I’m gonna try UW instead surface is kicking my ass

At least region 3 and 4 is pretty free on UW aside from Chronos

[neat jewel]

I like starting with a strong hammer (read: Dual Moonshot or Mirrored Thrasher) on Circe underworld to mitigate the fact that I'll probably be holding out for a good cast and won't have good damage for a while

Though of course doing that delays your theoretical cast boon since the onion comes later

[sour widget]

3 DAMN TIMES IN A ROW

Dark side, total eclipse, lunar ray

This game hates me

[rotund badger]

55 second prom fight, courtesy of this bonkers setup 😄 apollo legendary, demeter legendary, PArray, wide grin, weed killer, it's kinda just all there

3 fear run just for the heck of it because I wanted to have some no-thinking fun and farm the nightmare from the surface route boss fights!

i get now why people like skulls

i think i just had a 7-second twins fight, holy cow

the end screen - what a bananas run

[neat jewel]

Epic Hereditary Bane moment, my first damageless Scylla in forever (might be my actual first one ever lol)

[sour widget]

Typhon when I introduce him to the unmatched power of the sun

https://tenor.com/view/the-unmatched-power-of-the-sun-sun-power-cop-gif-22776276

[rotund badger]

forgot how great that gif is

[open osprey]

typhon got bonked

[neat jewel]

Typhon went Third Eye like 5 times in a row and I am ashamed to admit I have NO IDEA how to dodge Phase 3 Eyeshot, like all that 190 damage is from that (and losing resists to eggs spawning right on top of me because Twilight Curse is slow as hell)

Damageless Prometheus was very nice, I got a few dodges though so it easily could've been 100-200 damage Prometheus too lol

2 DDs lost in Thessaly (Blaskets and Auto-Seekers my worst enemy, even had Enfeeblement of Cowards lol), 0 everywhere else, never saw a Kiss of Styx

[lofty oriole]

62 Supay Dashing+Sprinting only (DASO)
Almost threw at the end cuz I kept forgetting I couldn't Cast 😂

[neat jewel]

Damn no Gigaros

[lofty oriole]

Early Nexus Rush was a lifesaver

Nexus + Static pretty much singlehandedly carried the first 3 regions 😂

[pliant tiger]

i was gonna attempt doing 62f daso a few minutes ago but i guess not

[sour widget]

Of all runs for it to not give me freaking slow cooker. Ended up taking fang since the majority of my damage I knew was coming from scorch anyways and knew I wasn't even on track for a PB. Got good special encounter and shop RNG but didn't get great boons or enemy RNG

I got double epic creation and no slow cooker

At LEAST it gave me pyro technique

[noble ginkgo]

what is this build, passion rush on Supay? when you already have glamour gain?

[sour widget]

I got glamour second and also as you can tell rushing did my second highest damage

Like 100 damage per hit with passion was pretty strong early on

I did try to sacrifice for nexus rush though

[noble ginkgo]

how does this work, passion rush deals no damage, unless there's something I don't understand?

[sour widget]

It does...

[noble ginkgo]

only on Supay?

[sour widget]

You're thinking of blinding rush

Blinding rush is the only non-damage rush

[noble ginkgo]

passion rush just applies weak, no?

[sour widget]

It makes a damaging explosion

[noble ginkgo]

ah ok, thought it was one of the non-damaging ones

[sour widget]

No, otherwise it would genuinely be worthless

[noble ginkgo]

but you should've taken Hestia rush for way more damage

[sour widget]

It's not more damage

10/.2s vs 20 per blast. So technically more damage but requires you to rush through enemies and doesn't activate instantly

Hestia is only during sprint so not as convenient

[noble ginkgo]

found my Supay build, here you go

this is sprint only, automatic origination, don't need to press any other buttons, except for an occasional cast

[sour widget]

Okay, you were also taking way more time

[noble ginkgo]

yeah but I wasn't speedrunning, it's just for the prophecy, look at the damage numbers though

[sour widget]

Note my less total damage dealt just due to avoiding encounters

I'm not arguing heat rush isn't an option but it doesn't apply curse which was also something I needed when I took passion rush

[noble ginkgo]

idk, people always say take Zeus/Poseidon/Hestia/maybe Hera when it comes to Supay, so I was really surprised to see you take Aphro

[sour widget]

It's what I was offered

Believe it or not we can't always get meta stuff

It was literally my first run and I kept it going cause I got boon 1 hestia special

And boon 2 bridal glow

[noble ginkgo]

yeah I know lol, just looking to learn something, didn't know passion rush was viable on Supay

[sour widget]

I'd have preferred nexus rush but I didn't get offered it on my second boon

Just took the guaranteed bridal glow instead

[noble ginkgo]

fair enough

that said, it looks like some combination of Aphro and Hestia is the way to go for Supay

burning desire + easy orig from glamour

[sour widget]

Definitely less optimal than poseidon zeus

even a good roll of pyro technique can't hope to do the same damage as static shock + blitz attack + wave special

[noble ginkgo]

I should try that combo next time

which rush do you take though, Zeus or Poseidon

[sour widget]

Can throw in heph or poseidon dash and try to get master conductor

Zeus rush is hot garbage

[noble ginkgo]

but Poseidon is just 1 hit, no? when you bump into something?

could be ass with wards

[sour widget]

That's what you got static and waves for

[neat jewel]

Struggled for like 2 hours on Supay 58f, then just hit a god build with Nexus Rush (sac'd in final shop because I was into Shocking Loss and thought it'd be funny), Romantic Spark with Epic Heaven Flourish, Master Conductor, and Bridal Glow hitting Volcanic Strike, and if that wasn't enough, I got 14% Wispy Wiles and Nurture of Hera (Polyp vs Typhon lfg)

We love to see no bosses on the damage taken board lol

[sour widget]

I guess I gave heat rush a bit too little credit

I still would prefer nexus rush but it does pretty solid damage

[neat jewel]

Yeah Heat Rush is fun on Supay especially since it feels like you have control over it lol

I don't like Breaker even though it's probably objectively the best because I use auto-sprint

And Nexus is my favorite too because Hitch good

[sour widget]

Okay yeah sorry @noble ginkgo for doubting heat rush

I pulled out the mods just to be sure

[noble ginkgo]

see I told you

what's that mod btw, I've seen it in a video

[sour widget]

DamageMeter on Thunderstore

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-shaquille-o'neal-owe-you-an-apology-sorry-apology-gif-6506155649875820269

[noble ginkgo]

no big deal 😁

I just kinda lucked out into that build

[gilded ravine]

if only we got defeat screens that still showed most dmg dealt

[sour widget]

Yeah I feel like a damage display should be a built in feature in more games

[gilded ravine]

mhm, would be helpful in seeing if the build was building or not

[sour widget]

"Girl are you a construction worker because you are building"

[gilded ravine]

peak

[manic relic]

i really dislike this aspect

[noble ginkgo]

woah that really is a hair's breadth, gg

I'm not a fan of Shiva either, I vastly prefer rockets

[old mesa]

Big number is funny but I agree, it feels a little more awkward compared to other aspects

[manic relic]

Totally skill issue on my part for getting so low, but yeah still a weird aspect

[lofty oriole]

Gratz on the W

Not even remotely close 👀

Cheirloom Lion Fang must’ve been strong though 😮

[manic relic]

Yeah, cheirloom knucklebones with hereditary bane also went crazy

[sour widget]

Holy moly nexus rush

Nexus rush and air quality static shock supay is goated

[noble ginkgo]

nice, I guess you don't even need that attack boon

[sour widget]

Nearly choked at the final phase of rivals typhon

Had no DD uses until typhon

[noble ginkgo]

Rivals Typhon is pretty hard, I've only tried him once and lost that run

during the babality phase lol

[sour widget]

Did this run for the weekly high fear challenge on the speedcord

[noble ginkgo]

seems like you still can stack a lot of hp and armor even on 50f, I should try this

are you playing with max scars though?

[lofty oriole]

Static + Nexus 💛 💛

[sour widget]

It was so damn good

[lofty oriole]

Zeus and Hera synergise so well with each other it's scary

[sour widget]

Also had romantic spark in there for @neat jewel lol

The early bridal glow storm ring carried though

[lofty oriole]

Heh Romantic spark between Zeus and Hera

520 is kinda crazy oml

[sour widget]

Let me grab some of the normal encounter footage of nexus rush doing work

[lofty oriole]

Just a casual stroll around summit

Murdering everything in your way 😇

[sour widget]

I had a run where I was getting like 1200 damage from it

Rallying cry and queens ransom

I might have the clip let me see

Overkill was a big part of just how much damage I was doing

[pliant tiger]

couldve been a 62f daso but i accidentally casted in first encounter of oceanus

[neat jewel]

Can you un-map buttons in this game

Well I guess even if you couldn't you could just map it to a really weird button that you'd never press even on accident

[pliant tiger]

yeah u can unmap buttons

i was just too lazy to do that

eh its fine

[neat jewel]

I would assume he wasn't since with Rivals 4 you have a lot more room to maneuver, my first 50f runs ran max scars though since they were Rivals 0 and Rivals 2

[pliant tiger]

its just side quest anyway

[neat jewel]

Just gives you an excuse to play more Soupy anyway

[noble ginkgo]

what's that red DD icon

[neat jewel]

That's what it looks like when you buy DDs back from wells or shrines

[noble ginkgo]

I only played a few times with DD's, there was a horn looking thing you can buy at the final shop and it replenished 1 DD

[neat jewel]

Death card, Skelly Tooth, Toula, Moros Pin, bought refills, Athena refills/extra, Echo refills, and Chaos extra are the 8 kinds of DD icons possible

I think it's not possible to get all 8 in 1 run though cause the only way to get both Tooth and Pin is with Gift Gift Gift which means you wouldn't be able to get Survive Survive Survive

[pliant tiger]

well technically, there is a way to get all 8 dds in one run

[neat jewel]

Oh yeah but not all the icons on the screen at the same time is what I meant

[pliant tiger]

fair enough

[noble ginkgo]

oh yeah I also saw a refill in a charon well, are they all 200g? that's really expensive

[pliant tiger]

with max debt its 360

[neat jewel]

Yeah refills are 200 in underworld, variable in surface shrines I think

[pliant tiger]

easily solvable via the existence of the one piece

[noble ginkgo]

so basically just keep playing Strength until max scars, got it

[pliant tiger]

what

pain exists

[noble ginkgo]

do you get one shot on max pain?

[sour widget]

It's double damage

[pliant tiger]

no but its way more punishing

[noble ginkgo]

Strength has 40% dr so it kinda offsets it already

[sour widget]

Yes but DD can also tank a strong hit

[pliant tiger]

but hypothetically if you were to run max pain with strength on

[sour widget]

So any extra damage taken is more damage that you don't have to heal

[noble ginkgo]

yes damage overflow is in favor of DD's

[pliant tiger]

thats still pain 2

[sour widget]

It would be equivalent to pain 1 if you were to take off 40% of 200%

So 120%

[pliant tiger]

what

oh yeah nvm

[sour widget]

200 * .6 = 120

I did say it weird

But yeah pain isn't additive to damage reduction

Still either way death is just naturally better at higher fear

[neat jewel]

Examples of big hits on Pain:
Chronos scythe - 70 damage (42 on strength)
Anchor - 44 (27)
Eris lazer - 60 (36)
Eris bomb - 70 (42)
Satyr Sapper - 44 (27)
Tail of Typhon bite - 66 (40)
Typhon chin - 120 (72)
Typhon tongue - 140 (84)

I've only ran Strength on my Mel Axe and Nergal runs and they were all Pain 0 except for one Nergal which was Pain 2 though

[pliant tiger]

nergal is probably the only time strength is miles better than death

[sour widget]

Hereditary bane moment

[neat jewel]

Honestly surprised they didn't nerf Hereditary Bane scaling when they released JPom but thankful they didn't

[robust sapphire]

FINALLY

Had no DDs left and Echo saved me

Calling card as first keepsake was great too

I was gonna rarify one of my Epic starting Hermes boons to Heroic so that I can survive, but unfortunately Nitro Boost doesn’t affect Medea specials, apparently

So Hard Target it was

[frozen sequoia]

i think i can fear it up ive fooled around a bunch with builds and stuff ❤️
my hammers kinda screwed me over since i didnt even touch the attack button but oh well !!!

[cursive panther]

Heinous Affront Run PLUS I BECAME RICH RUN 6K MONEY THX TO CHAOS

[coarse island]

Got to p3 p2 Chronos on max fear.

I suppose that’s a victory.

[analog oasis]

Congratulations

[silk escarp]

king's ransom can get very funny, i didnt manage to get it until last shop but i kept getting hera doors
https://medal.tv/games/hades-ii/clips/mmMnPAgWdJRdghuuG?invite=cr-MSxKYnYsMjA4ODQ5MzQ5

[noble ginkgo]

surprised you didn't insta phase Typhon with that many levels

[silk escarp]

i kept forgetting to use my cast to proc origination so that's probably why

[sour widget]

@noble ginkgo I've been putting heat rush to good use

That was rivals cerb lol

I guess I kinda didn't think about how mindlessly you're just sprinting constantly with supay

So like heat rush is pretty free

Zero DD uses. Had so much armor stacked up I didn't even need the pin

Heat rush funny

[neat jewel]

I was gonna say how did you have so much Scorch when it was on your attack but I forgot about Burning Desire

[sour widget]

Yeah I’d prioritized freeze for special since I had the triple special projectiles so I’d just instantly freeze anybody by walking into them

And took scorch cause I had the open slot and didn’t take denial

I just wanted to spam encounters for damage cause I was trying to get a good number for the speedcord challenge

[cursive panther]

Aphro Hex might be decent? 👀

[sour widget]

Check this out

[obsidian leaf]

before going into typhon fight... forgot to take a screenshoot but it was a hitless win :D
kings randsom my beloved

also finally got all of em

[cursive panther]

[neat jewel]

Ran out of magick in Typhon P4 (thanks Sweeping Ambush, 226k Oattack damage though) and was forced to wait out the cooldown of Volcanic Strike (sacrificed Sworn Strike for it in endshop), my Morrigan runs are always so ugly

[desert steppe]

@marsh condor :3 it worked, only took 2 deaths, i swear the questionmarks made me play better lol

[neat jewel]

Worry Free enjoyer 🤝

[desert steppe]

first time getting it 😭

ive only had 3 runs to ||prometheus|| so far

also what the HELL do you mean its not over

[neat jewel]

I just love Coat man

Run would've been so clean if not for that terrible Hecate fight, Clanger Mourner, and one Cerb explosion, also my dad giving me an old mouse of his with side buttons deadass shot up my Mel Coat enjoying by like 100% since it lets me easily toggle auto-fire on and off for Huntress

[keen furnace]

Cloud of Deletus Water Bubble.

[neat jewel]

Game edged you for King Tide huh

[keen furnace]

Nah, got King Tide way too late. Killing Stroke and Arterial Spray are what makes the cloud spicy

[neat jewel]

Oh damn it was on the next page lol

[keen furnace]

By the Power of Love, Grandpa escaped his golden shell with 3k Crit from Omega Attack

[analog oasis]

First time beating Charybdis on 67 Fear kind of a small victory on my journey to achieving Surface 67

Build before Charybdis

[noble ginkgo]

gg, I really liked that build, you just do a 360 around an enemy and they die in 1 sec, it's OP as hell

[olive vigil]

didn’t know heat rush was good, further testing required

[sour widget]

It’s genuinely only good with Supay

Because you have to be sprinting

Like it works for early clear cause it does a lot of damage in Erebus

[olive vigil]

Better than hera rush?

[sour widget]

Hera rush has a ton more range, faster damage, and applies a curse

[neat jewel]

Better as your only source of damage probably but as you scale up it's not close for me Nexus Rush is the best

[sour widget]

Hera rush is absolutely better for 23/24 weapons

And debatably better for the 24th

[neat jewel]

Though Heat Rush actually has the highest pick rate on crossroads, and Nexus Rush is 4th

[sour widget]

Nexus rush can do some insane damage with the right setup and can clear rooms way faster on its own

As you’ve seen in the clips I’d posted

[neat jewel]

Does fall off against bosses ofc

And I've said before Breaker is probably the actual best but I won't touch it because I don't wanna turn off auto-sprint

[sour widget]

Really? Interesting

Not sure what the consensus is on that

[sour widget]

Yeah I tried it and it requires a TON of adjustment.

Either gotta turn off auto-sprint or completely halt your movement

[pliant tiger]

my new recorded 67f surface pb: https://youtu.be/gnVH99yDbUIr

i forgot to include the salute in the vid but eh its fine

[neat jewel]

Let the record show it was Kol's fault for convincing him to take Antler

[pliant tiger]

TRUE

ITS ALL @sour widget'S FAULT

[sour widget]

I just said, AND I QUOTE

“Do you take the victory or do you take glory”

You chose glory and that’s your fault lol

[pliant tiger]

nah

you jinxed me with the "im waiting for the "i choked and died to tail" message

[sour widget]

Ah right lol

Change that name to “tail fumbler”

[pliant tiger]

nah

that was an unlucky pattern

[sour widget]

Yeah for sure

[noble ginkgo]

don't mean to be rude, but isn't tail the easiest summit mini-boss? were you speedrunning too hard

[sour widget]

Watch the video

[noble ginkgo]

I really hate the eye cause you have to wait for it to roll around

[sour widget]

Got two-tapped by bulbs on the ground because didn't know that gale didn't block trap damage

[noble ginkgo]

ah

[sour widget]

Nitro boost only tanked on hit

[noble ginkgo]

well that's the antler for you

[sour widget]

Just dodge the blast and kill it before it can roll at you

It doesn't have that much health

[noble ginkgo]

yeah just too many hazards for my liking I guess, with the tail I only need to clear the eggs it spawns or just move to the other end of the arena and make it follow me

[sour widget]

Tail can be a bit of a pain if you don't give it space during the swipe attack since it's pretty large and decently fast on frenzy 2

[noble ginkgo]

it's probably pretty bad on melee only builds

like Medea

[olive vigil]

Eye def easier imo

[charred cypress]

Ye Eye doesn't move, so just mow it down real quick and move on with your day.

[analog oasis]

Tail usually hits hard and runs to the opposite end of the map, but most tail attacks are well telegraphed. The main issue is the shadow Drachons.

[lofty oriole]

My first ever…63 fear 😂

[olive vigil]

great chaos above go away forever

janky morrigan still does work turns out

[cursive panther]

P ARRAY CAME IN CLUTCH LAST ROOM BEFORE CHRONOS YUUUUH

[sour widget]

Did you have gold gold gold left over from Echo?

[rotund hamlet]

it looks like just an anvil

[sour widget]

Ah right duh

Forget those exist cause they’re so rare

[cursive panther]

no it was anvil

OH WAIT I SHOULDVE WENT FOR ECHO

[grave furnace]

Healthhh!!

[neon grail]

Vod uploaded https://youtu.be/QVFEDaootXs @lofty oriole

[neat jewel]

Sheesh 0 boss damage

[coarse island]

Holy side quest of side quests

[neon grail]

Lovers my beloved

[pliant tiger]

67f when?

[sour widget]

100% real not-modded gameplay lol

[neon grail]

[neat jewel]

Level 1 Aspect of Melinoe gaming

[sour widget]

Sadly the run broke due to a bad warp between rooms placing me outside the map so that stinks. No result screen

[neon grail]

Damageless rivals chronos noice

[pliant tiger]

momus disrespect is crazy

[neat jewel]

Bold of you to assume I run Rivals 4

[sour widget]

Damn gifs having things at the end

[sour widget]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-senju-gif-13079766

I hate when I go to send a gif and it ends up having some absolutely atrocious stuff tacked on at the end that you’d never see until you sit there and watch it

Nearly got banned from a damn server cause of that once

[neat jewel]

Mel Coat 58f surface! When I got to Promacles with amazing timer my nerves kicked in and I took a lot of damage to them and Spawn of Typhon but my early run was so strong that it was unchokeable, didn't even have Hereditary Bane

[rotund hamlet]

whats the unused 4 fear

[neat jewel]

Rivals 4 LOL

[rotund hamlet]

if it was rivals would you have won

[neat jewel]

Probably not I haven't faced Rivals 4 bosses in over a month

My Supay 58 surface probably would've beaten Rivals 4 and therefore 62 because the build was so lucky and I won with 3 DDs + Toula + Pin

I should really get around to savestating Rivals 4 so I can join the 62 club lol

[sour widget]

100% legit gameplay guarantee

[sour widget]

Also the rush boons mod may be... a little unbalanced lol

Now I need to do this with like 50 fear lol

I just really did not expect it to take this long lol

1 million health typhon cause of grit 3 is funny

[desert bolt]

i’m not sure if this deserves to be in here, but I beat Chronos for the first time!! :D

[rotund hamlet]

wth are you playing 😭

[sour widget]

Endless night with wrath of Olympus

It’s 6 runs that become progressively shorter, higher enemy counts, and higher health everything and a new god is added to the pool every run

I do feel I’d need some serious difficulty adjustments to make it actually difficult since they’ve yet to add higher difficulty scaling

And wrath is the red boons

Putting on vow of denial would make it impossible to just stack unlimited boons like I did

By the end like a basic zombie guy had maybe 10-50k health lol

[lofty oriole]

Jesus Christ

I thought the 5 million rush damage guy was back 😂

[sour widget]

Nah lol

I should definitely do it at a higher fear though. I just did Hordes 3 Grit 3 Frenzy 2

There’s also an option to alternate between underworld and surface if you don’t want to just do one 6 times in a row lol

[coral hamlet]

Lucked out on my 24 fear run on the surface when Circe cleared my frenzy 2 vow. 😮‍💨

[lofty oriole]

We love to see it 🙏

[static cloud]

holy, my first under 7min

[neat jewel]

First modded run, guaranteed Fetching Array because I refuse to learn how to use the special

Stinky no Origination run but made up for by cool Air Quality Gusts and Static Shock

[sour widget]

What mod did you use to get the fetching array

[neat jewel]

Purple modpack

Guarantees first hammer

He just posted it in the speedcord chat a few hours ago

[sour widget]

Ah nice

Only mods I messed with were fun mods not really build tailoring mods

[solid yew]

Don't love modded runs being posted here but whatever.

[cursive panther]

Made Possessed Array but at home

[sour widget]

I mean if we’re openly stating it it’s not really bragging about anything because we know it’s not legitimate

[lofty oriole]

We’ve seen a lot worse on here with blatant cheating

God looking back on this, sometimes I wish Pin was 11 seconds 😭