h2-builds-and-combat

[signal coral]

By that you mean dont stand in melee so you can actually move away before the fire gets to you?

And obv point the line somewhere not across the middle of the screen

[surreal hazel]

You will have to learn to swallow that pride a bit if you want to avoid taking damage

[signal coral]

I just want to kil 🙁

[surreal hazel]

Yes

You can learn to time it but ehhhh

[signal coral]

I've been trying to time it but the success rate is so low when im melee range

[stable herald]

Messenger arcana gives you iframes with your cast btw, I think it's equivalent to dash iframes

[surreal hazel]

Just parry it as artemis

[signal coral]

Since he turns really fast when he hasn't started firing yet

Also for last phase typhon when there are spinny tentacles coming out of the ground, are there safe spots to stand at the far top of the screen or am I just tripping?

Idk if I was not taking damage because im stupid and didn't see a dodge or whatever, or that there are actually safe spots

[chilly swift]

Can Artemis appear during Surface runs?

[signal coral]

Yes

Only in hp/mana rooms i think?

Unless they changed it

[chilly swift]

Gotcha, thank you

[unkempt sleet]

only in ephyra too

[surreal hazel]

there are not, but it's a completely obvious pattern

[signal coral]

I wasn't sure if I could sneak into a gap between two tentacles.

How do you normally dodge it? Im not super consistent with that attack yet since it wasn't in the old patch I played. Currently im trying to i-frame them by dashing into the upper wall of the arena but idk if that's the best way

[surreal hazel]

just wait for a sweep to finish and stand where it was, loads of time

they just move in the same upwards pattern each time

[signal coral]

Sometimes it overlaps with another attack though, such as his tongue laser that wants me to stand on the top of the screen

[surreal hazel]

dash through it

it's a really easy thing to iframe through

[fresh pivot]

Got both Zeus legendary and Air Quality on the last encounter in Summit and idk what to pick lmao

Legendary means "easier" adds but Air Quality is straight up a DPS increase with Circe

[odd bolt]

https://i.imgur.com/3PttIN3.png vow of hubris moment

[fresh pivot]

also hi disco lmao

[fresh pivot]

Born Gain + Vow of Hubris moment

[civic ocean]

Air quality - do you have things that deal less than 50 dmg

[fresh pivot]

A lot, yeah

[civic ocean]

Then take air quality if you uave enough wind

Typhons adds dont spawn if you kill the eggs so take damage

[signal coral]

Air quality also kills adds

[odd bolt]

it wasnt born gain lol

[odd bolt]

👋 hi darthe

[bronze flax]

Hmm, which is a good 32 fear setting that does not involve Time 2 or 3?

I'm playing at 20 Fear with max Menace, Return, Fangs, Vow of Shadows, and Rivals 3. I want to eventually try 32 Fear lol (I guess that means Rivals 4 eventually )

[stray notch]

Which are the best mana regen boon atm?
I'm trying a circe build and I'm not sure which one to pick

[odd bolt]

born gain

[sacred storm]

born gain and it isn't even close

[bronze flax]

If you're using Circe, definitely go with Lucid Gain, double the Cast, double the Magick recovery. It's not even a contest imo

[odd bolt]

ah yeah for circe Lucid gain is crazy good

[sacred storm]

that said yeah if you're dong a cast build lucid gain can also put in serious work

[stray notch]

ehm born or lucid gyuys? xD

[bronze flax]

I'd say go with Lucid, specially since you mention is a Circe run

[stray notch]

ok lucid seems the best

[odd bolt]

lucid is good for circe aspect specifically but you really cant go wrong with born gain

[stray notch]

ok ty guys :3

I also already have apollo in the buyild so gg

zeus apollo demeter... I guess ares next?

[bronze flax]

Ares in Omega Cast is nice for Meat Grinder, yes

[stray notch]

I dont care for special and normal attack much right?

[signal coral]

Born gain is specifically really broken for builds that consume huge amounts of magick

Like possessed array skulls or fine line torches

[bronze flax]

The only one I just don't really get is Flood Gain tbh

[signal coral]

For "regular" builds that use magick but at a normal rate lucid gain is enough regen and is also pretty low requirements to proc

That's not to say born gain is bad, of course, just that its advantage over other gain boons means more and more the faster you use magick

[civic ocean]

If you are dead set against doing even time 2 you will probably want to run frenzy 1 or 2

Otherwise you can make up the other 12 fear with some combo of denial, hubris, scars 2, debt, and on some weapons wards

But it’s a lot easier if you just get used to winning runs in under 28 minutes

Speed in this game is more decision making than execution anyways, at least at 32f time 2

[signal coral]

Imo every player who is starting to push fear should learn timer 2 at least.

Timer 3 maybe up to preference at that point but timer 2 is basically free fear

[bronze flax]

I usually do, the thing is just I don't like the concept of a timer for starters 😅

[livid tartan]

timer 3 gets too build dependent

[signal coral]

Can you look through your run history and note your clear times?

[livid tartan]

if your dps sucks by boss 1 you're probably gonna time out

[signal coral]

Unless you're playing really high fear and are forced to take a bunch of vows that slow things down, you can make timer 3 just fine once you get used to playing fast

[stray notch]

How do you play a cast build? I just died on thrash mob cause whe I charge the omega they hit me a lot so probably im doing it wrong

[civic ocean]

I think timer 3 is a bit free but sometimes you do get messed up by hec yeah

[civic ocean]

It depends on what you are building for the cast

[signal coral]

On my new file im averaging about 15 min per clear, though this isn't high fear since I dont have things maxed (usually ~20 currently)

[livid tartan]

Sometimes you just can't get a good attack/special boon and you're like....crap

[bronze flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233146305308528650/1423123056087400478/image.png?ex=68dfd2e0&is=68de8160&hm=d36f03269f2be260721b1b196e9c02d717b4a2d228e31646d51c480d740ec9a2 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233146305308528650/1422769430944808970/image.png?ex=68dfdb0a&is=68de898a&hm=9b9307d9cee9a20eabf8b61503df96ba2302dc76c42cfb1e6ecf4c6e10ac2447 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233146305308528650/1422753427938873424/image.png?ex=68dfcc22&is=68de7aa2&hm=0e5b09fd2e22dbedb8a9bce06e5dd428cd9b485cf0cb10dcd3fb6d98e2b88ff8 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233146305308528650/1422395505694212146/image.png?ex=68dfd04b&is=68de7ecb&hm=a253102e141ea5cedced133ec5952795a3d261d8dbd9d20fc29c8fc85e1e157d

Since I can't right now, sharing some wins I had at 10+ fear, but yeah, most of them are under 30 minutes

[stray notch]

what does it mean?

[signal coral]

Timer 2 literally free

You have 28 min to win

[civic ocean]

Sometimes you dont need to omega sometimes you do it depends what boons you take

[signal coral]

And your clears look to be under that amount

[stray notch]

I had all based on omega so how do i charge up omega without being hit?

[livid tartan]

100%

[signal coral]

Define good?

Because this game is quite well balanced, most core damage boons are at least workable

[civic ocean]

Dash away while charging cast

[dusty ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935567272762802256/1423331987472646226/image.png?ex=68dfecb6&is=68de9b36&hm=1aeb0ac0abab8fd212abbdc2b596656723695b468d09aa8e507a2a873c9ea59f& should i take this while running strength?

[signal coral]

Like maybe you dont hit the ideal boon but if you are forced to take Apollo attack or whatever its not the end of the world

[civic ocean]

Do you need the survival

[dusty ember]

i believe yes

[civic ocean]

Then yes

[dusty ember]

first time im gonna fight extreme measures chronos

[civic ocean]

Then take it yeah

[livid tartan]

I have a hard time giving up Gale lol 3 blocks a region is too good

[civic ocean]

Just add up how much hp the 3 blocks are worth per biome

And then figure out if that is more or less than frinos or whatever

[bronze flax]

I use Gale with weapons I know I'll be playing risky, like Medea lol

[humble kettle]

what's the best boon for special on Sister Blades?

[civic ocean]

Depends

[indigo badger]

depends on aspect in my experience

[livid tartan]

I mean, i switch to Hecuba for magic builds

[humble kettle]

no aspect yet

[indigo badger]

but you can never go wrong with zeus un special

poseidon on attack zeus on special goes hard

[livid tartan]

but sometimes a good ol' fashioned immortal dodge build is kinda fun

[humble kettle]

what does Poseidon's do?

[indigo badger]

each time you hit, you get a splash that does fixed damage

each individual hit of the multihit attack on the daggers triggers that splash

that way blitz procs very soon, so you can re-apply it as soon as possible

[livid tartan]

remember when dash builds used to cost magick? haha those were dark days

[dusty ember]

i actually dont remember that

which one costed magick?

[livid tartan]

oh yeah, in the old days, zeus and poseidon dash used to cost magick

it was like... 5-10 per hit, i can't remember

you burned through it really fast

[dusty ember]

really? i played since the first couple days of early access and i cant remember that, probably cause i only used hestias dash back then

and apollo's dash sometimes

[livid tartan]

oh i remember hestia's dash was a must have against eris

[dusty ember]

i remember becoming so fast i couldnt control melinoe

[livid tartan]

it made that fight nearly inconsequential

[dusty ember]

it was the best dash in the game and it wasnt close

[livid tartan]

free projectile destroy? yes please

[uneven palm]

There’s also dodge chance. Gale is think on a full run almost always more ehp than the others

[livid tartan]

whee, getting an epic lvl4 breaker rush as your first boon on supay is like a free win

[dusty ember]

why does aspect of medea's special just doesnt go off sometimes?

[frigid tartan]

Bro I started a run with bell keepsake to start levelling it, just to find out when I take it off, it keeps scaling 😭

I'm so not gonna beat this run

[livid tartan]

haha worst keepsake in the game

[frigid tartan]

That and the antler are up there for me. But gotta level them anyways somehow

[flint widget]

antler isnt that bad

[livid tartan]

antler has its place sometimes in endgame builds

[flint widget]

antler is amazing for speedruns

[dusty ember]

which one is antler

[frigid tartan]

Oh don't get me wrong, not saying it's bad, it's just bad for me

I can't play with 30hp hahaha

[flint widget]

fair enough

[livid tartan]

antler increases crit rate, but limited to 30hp

[flint widget]

just get a lot of armor

[livid tartan]

bell just....sucks

[dusty ember]

ah yes

[dusty ember]

bell is funny

[frigid tartan]

Wait... I just realized there's no achievement for fully upgrading every keepsake. Screw this, not touching the bell ever again

[stable herald]

Bell is basically the meme run keepsake

Antler is either the leet speedrunner keepsake, or the "well this Great Chaos Trial is over" keepsake

[livid tartan]

my completionist self couldn't let it go lol

[frigid tartan]

If I reach that point I'll just do quick runs in first biome with bell at the end just to grind it, but as story is unfolding I don't like to cut runs short

[dusty ember]

i love when pig activates judgement

[livid tartan]

i can't remember if side rooms in surface helps it increment

[nimble hamlet]

does Moros operate in close enough range for Aphro to proc?

[cursive badge]

hey does anyone know which is better for the twin blade apollo or ares?

[nimble hamlet]

depends

can you be more specific? 👀

[livid tartan]

attack? dash?

[cursive badge]

in terms of attack

[nimble hamlet]

which aspect?

[cursive badge]

and using artemis aspect

[livid tartan]

base damage for daggers in general are pretty low

[nimble hamlet]

because on the hidden aspect I personally love Apollo and I'd recommend it on attack

[cursive badge]

still did get them yet

[chilly swift]

How much Fear do you need to have to be eligible for Gifts of Night?

[livid tartan]

but given the choice, i'd pick apollo for attack

[nimble hamlet]

oh ok.. then I guess I wouldn't know? Don't use Artemis much

[livid tartan]

to make it not as unsafe

[glass bone]

Sister Blades imo are sort of… “boon-agnostic”, in that the blades want boon combos, rather than one or two specific boons out the gate, and especially wants hammers (Trick Knives, Wicked Onslaught, Reaper Knives, etc.) For the most part though, I’d say Ares is the weakest of the gods, and his best use on Blades is the Gain, and support boons.

[nimble hamlet]

I'd probably go for zeus tbh

[livid tartan]

i want ares to be better 🙁

[nimble hamlet]

Ares being massacred makes me so sad. He was so good when he got released

[cursive badge]

ok

[livid tartan]

lol

[cursive badge]

true

[livid tartan]

i feel like he's almost not worth it without his legendary

[cursive badge]

i still use him with the axe aspect of than

[unkempt sleet]

@cursive badge also if you find yourself getting hit a lot I find that Demeter rush and cast are really helpful for that

[chilly swift]

Wounds and Grievous Blow are still decent, but yeah that's about it

[nimble hamlet]

just give me OG grievous blows back

[unkempt sleet]

demeter rush and cast lowkey h2’s divine dash

[cursive badge]

true

ok best boons to combo with apollo in my case?

i would go with glummer gain for weak and add daze for more dmg

[graceful cosmos]

is there a way to get out of hecate's sheep morph faster via mashing or something like that or is it just a strict timer

[tall notch]

There are ways to avoid getting sheeped altogether

[graceful cosmos]

i know but in the unfortunate event of sheepening

i know u just dash thru it but sometimes im bad at video games

[tall notch]

You can get out of it by popping a death defiance. That's about all you can do if you catch it

[livid tartan]

Frinos eats it

lol

[weak meteor]

He's already a frog, he can't be frogged more.

[tall notch]

Yeah I said ways because there's lots, didn't wanna spoil it all

[graceful cosmos]

i'd rather be sheep ......... deep thoughts....

[dusty ember]

but he can be unfrogged by a kiss of true love!

[last plover]

Best god for Aspect of Morrigan? (what attack and special is best?)

[livid tartan]

Morrigan is pretty flexible

for attack though, Hera is really good

The o-attack will spread hitch, and then the triad damages all hitched, i believe

special is meh. zeus is nice though for the extra blitz damage

[tulip pier]

is -%mana cost from chaos additive with itself or multiplicative?

[paper hemlock]

is there actually a feasible way to dodge rivals hecate morph?

[livid tartan]

yes

[nimble hamlet]

damn I just got scammed by the athena keepsake, of all things

[livid tartan]

how?

[nimble hamlet]

simply didn't proc

[livid tartan]

Did you have DDs?

she only appears if you have no DDs

[nimble hamlet]

no I run with strength

[livid tartan]

hmm

toula?

i don't know if that affects, actually

[spiral wadi]

which region

[nimble hamlet]

Raki, in fields

it's the last underworld run, if you know what I mean, so maybe it's got something to do with that

[stable herald]

Yeah a lot of keepsakes just plain don't work on the last "story" run, I had that with Moon Beam

[shy hearth]

is the Aspect of Medea still broken?

[chilly swift]

I need to reach 8 Fear and also need to progress the Rivals prophecy, is it stupid to just go for Rivals 3 right away? I was planning to use Aspect of Medea (fully upgraded)

[bronze flax]

Heinous Affront Aspect of Persephone is really fun once you get everything put together, wow

Too bad it requires such specifics and there are only two relevant "When Damaged" boons

[chilly swift]

I think I saw on the subreddit that Toula does effect the Athena keepsake, unfortunately

[civic ocean]

Any DD effect stops athena from working

[chilly swift]

Is Rival Cerberus extremely tough?

[rough patio]

which dashes are good/bad on supay?

[signal coral]

All the rivals fights are tough 🙁

Rivals feels a lot harder than extreme measures in hades 1

[chilly swift]

I do agree with that so far

[rough patio]

i agree for the early bosses but em4 was like... insane

but idk i havent played much vs rivals 4 yet

so maybe it's also really hard xd

[lean crypt]

what attack boon for aspect of artemis?

[civic ocean]

Any really but if you want to make best use of the critical chance % based like aph apollo hera good

[lean crypt]

what god has the highest increase btw

[surreal hazel]

Yes it is

[lean crypt]

it was demeter in hades 1 iirc

[shy hearth]

rivals 4 is super hard dawg

[civic ocean]

Aph

[lean crypt]

oh yeah with the caveat that it's gotta be close

makes sense

[spiral wadi]

if u get island getaway all enemies will be considered nearby

[stable herald]

Aim for rush boons with a high base damage like Zeus or Poseidon - only downside to Poseidon is you have to dash again to reactivate it. Apollo is a nonstarter obv because it has no damage. Hera's good but beware since it only deals damage when it first applies Hitch, not continuously like other rush boons

[lean crypt]

what's supay?

[bronze flax]

For rush, Poseidon and more recently, Hera are good choices imo. Poseidon has the extra benefit of Beach Ball (does not benefit from Supay, but still good and still pretty funny), Zeus is also pretty nice.

For dashes, if you can pull out Heph and Apollo duos, Ares has worked surprisingly well, but otherwise, it's disappointing.

[bronze flax]

A hidden aspect from the Umbral Flames

[lean crypt]

just like in hades one i HATE that you can't reroll hammers...

[livid tartan]

I had a really nice Supay run i posted in victory-boasting... started jewled pom and got a lvl4 breaker rush immediately

It was a super easy run from start to finish

[bronze flax]

Ohhh, I forgot to say, Demeter Sprint with Air Quality is insane

[livid tartan]

low fear though, only 27

'cuz sometimes you just don't feel like dealing with wards/return lol

[last rampart]

Question about moros, does the blast scale with normal attack or special or does not scale at all?

[signal coral]

Attack

[civic ocean]

The attack scales with the type of attack you do right

I havent played moros in forever

[last rampart]

[surreal hazel]

Hidden aspect

[sly kestrel]

anyone else having trouble getting Demeter's legendary boon?

I have all of her requisites + the maxed out Excellence Arcana but she never offers it to me

the same for whenever I attempt her Chaos Trial again and again, she just never gives the boon to me

do I have to have a certain relationship level with her before she finally gives it? it's the only legendary boon I need to finally finish the Power Beyond Legend prophecy

[surreal hazel]

Nexus rush my friend

[bronze flax]

Yeah, that was on my last Supay run. It was very good

[hot tendon]

What's the clue to rival sirens and cerberus? i find it difficul to get past sirens now rather than before

[chilly swift]

If you expand the god pool to a 5th* (or more) god through their keepsake, do all 5+ gods' boons keep appearing after that or is one of them sidelined?

[rapid bolt]

What do you do on supay with nexus rush when everyone is already hitched tho

[bronze flax]

Your attack and special must be doing damage, which should be triggering Hitch

[modern nest]

If you have a damage boon on your cast, does the Omega cast make it stronger? Or does it just add burst damage at the end like a non-enhanced cast?

[chilly swift]

Also, if Arcana cards are activated through Circe's keepsake, can they cause Awakened cards to deactivate? (Like for example the card that auto-activates when you have no more than 2 cards of a given grasp cost, could that deactivate if a third card of a given cost is activated)

[sterile mica]

just got a heroic Sea Star with 16 levels, 100% chance to dupe rewards
thank you Echo very cool lol

[stable herald]

no, they aren't activated or deactivated

Circe can activate those cards for you tho

[civic ocean]

All 5 can show yeah

[cosmic steppe]

Mom pom with mom skull is so fun

[bronze flax]

We're momaxxing with that combo

[viral gale]

Did they rework any components of the Dark Side Cast-spamming build?

[hard plover]

Anyone have a good build for Morrigan aspect for the sister blades?

[paper hemlock]

hitch on attack is great, the rest doesn't matter too much since it doesn't scale your blood triad damage

[hard plover]

Alrighty

I’ve been writing out lists for potential builds to test

[paper hemlock]

you can pick up blitz, freeze and blast which all feel nice to apply with the rest of your loadout

[hard plover]

Can I dm you what stuff I have for the sister blades?

[civic ocean]

Don’t think so, seems similar?

[paper hemlock]

sure

[hard plover]

What I have written down atleast

[viral gale]

I'll take your word for it, but I asked cuz Hermes's "Winner's Circle" doesn't read like it would let you spam the Cast now. However, I don't actually remember what it said before.

[civic ocean]

Winner’s circle is the same

Casts expire much faster and can be channeled much faster

[stable herald]

Winner's Circle best boon in the game

[wide glen]

Anyone got a fun build for Aspect of ||The Morrigan|| Lim and Oros?

[glass bone]

Apollo Attack + Final Slice

[velvet epoch]

Question: is Heat Rush good now?

[dull rapids]

maaan.... hellsplitter feels so aweful to play around, either you dont hit them behind you or you are soo slow that you take damage while attacking

[stable herald]

Middle of the pack imo

[flint widget]

its decent with supay but breaker rush and nexus rush are better imo

[velvet epoch]

What's on the low end?

I'm using Anubis. Boons so far are from Hestia, Demeter, and Apollo.

[signal coral]

Does anyone know if the hit that applies hitch spreads to other hitched targets?

[stable herald]

I really don't like Aphro's, Heph's, or Ares' rush boons

[signal coral]

Or do i need to hit something that is already hitched?

[signal coral]

Aphro dash is free damage and status for melee weapons

[stable herald]

of these three I think Apollo and Demeter are better, because they inflict a status curse for Origination

[dull rapids]

hitch is usually only for dmg transfer, i dont know if there is a special perk that inflicts curses to others

[velvet epoch]

Origination?

[stable herald]

so are a lot of other dash boons, and Weak only lasts one second now

[dull rapids]

at least*

[stable herald]

Arcana card, gives you bonus damage against enemies with status curses from two different Olympians. It's a big boost and a central build-around card

[rough patio]

does static shock work on omega moves?

what counts as a strike?

how do i tell when a boon is talking about only my normal attack/special or both that and the omega version

[signal coral]

The dreaded plural of doom

[stable herald]

If it's singular, it just means the attack or special. If it's plural, like "attacks" and "specials", it's both

[rough patio]

k

[civic ocean]

Strikes are usually hits with your weapon but in ares case they mean everything

[rough patio]

is an omega a hit with the weapon?

[civic ocean]

In static shocks case its all attacks and all specials

So yes it works with omegas

[rough patio]

k
thanks

[dull rapids]

if you hover for a moment an info will display what "attacks" or "specials" are.
Depending on what is explained, you know what is affected

[civic ocean]

Yeah Strikes is super unclear though

For Static Shock it means weapon attacks but for Grievous Blow and Mutual Destruction it’s everything

Artemis it’s only weapon attacks

[spiral wadi]

isn't root stalker supposed to have six tendrils

like three normal and three shadow

[chilly swift]

Aww, do cards activated through Circe's keepsake not progress the prophecy to win in the Underworld with those cards? I activated Eternity through the Keepsake after defeating Cerberus, then defeated Chronos, but it didn't cross it off the prophecy

[digital juniper]

i haven’t played UW without shadow in a good bit but idk why i remember it not having any tendrils without shadow

[livid tartan]

dang, gotta love having a smooth hecate fight until the very end when you get careless and eat an entire dark side volley to the face

[spiral wadi]

idk tbh i just noticed the normal tendrils just don't show up with shadow

[fluid flare]

after using all my rerolls can i afterwards use the new keepsakes?

or do i have to plan around them since the beggining

[stable herald]

this, if you used rerolls at all you can't activate Fates' Whim

[fluid flare]

noted

[chilly swift]

I did that when I first fought her Rivals form, such pain 😭

I really wish you could see all parameters of a Chaos Trial before starting it, I was not expecting to start Thessaly with only 39 health and no DDs in Trial of Heartache*, jfc

[livid tartan]

lol i felt that way about the Supay trial

[indigo badger]

What dashes are recomended for supay?, im thinking hera, but i dont really have any more ideas, as i dont really use dashes that much

[livid tartan]

zeus, pos, or deme

[weary ledge]

what's the best familair to pair with Circe staff? I've got all but Gale unlocked

[odd bolt]

Hera is really good

[odd bolt]

Haven't played with all familiars using it yet but don't use hecuba it's not good, gale and raki seem alright

[tame cloud]

Hiya - Argent Skull any good? I want to try it out but wanna know what type of aspect and boons I should look out for

[odd bolt]

Yes it's good, depends on what you wanna do and what aspect you wanna play

I think Medea skull is probably the best weapon in the game

[tame cloud]

I don't really have a preference here, just gonna do an underground run with it. So feel free to tell me what you like

[chilly swift]

I think the skulls are great, personally. Melinoe aspect is good, and I love Medea aspect as well. Blitz is good on attack or special to start with, I also like Demeter and Hera

[tame cloud]

Hmmm sure I can try Medea

[indigo badger]

In my experience skull is hella fun, but i only played 2 of the aspects, so i cant rrally say that much on mel's or persephone's aspects, but all skulls seem to play differently

[chilly swift]

I've tried all familiars with Circe staff and Toula is a clear winner when you wake her up, especially when her scratch is upgraded. In rooms with multiple enemies she spreads out and thus spreads out the cast and leash damage, and in Guardian fights she stacks close to you but not right on top of you which is exactly what you want

[indigo badger]

If you go medea's skull, go zeus special, as the special lands first than the attacks, so the attacks detonate the blitz of the special, at least on my experience

[tame cloud]

Ooooh that sounds really good actually imma try that, thank you

Any hammers that you find especially useful?

[indigo badger]

If you have problems with medea's aspect, remember that you can also explode the attacks by hitting a wall

[chilly swift]

Is it possible to level Aspects up to rank 6? I see a guide talking about that being the max level but mine seem capped at rank 5?

[civic ocean]

Heph legendary upgrades them again

[indigo badger]

Any hammer that makes ypur special faster really, as you can use that speed to get in and out faster from the melee range

[indigo badger]

Heph's legendary

Some aspects just go to town at level 6

[surreal hazel]

speaking of which, just got it for than and it's ridiculous

[chilly swift]

Colossus Driver is very good and adds a lot of damage for Medea aspect, Boosted Ignition as well. Melting Break is also really nice because armoured enemies are difficult to pop with this aspect otherwise. Avoid Wide Grin like the plague. Possessed Array can be great but requires insane mana regen to maintain

[indigo badger]

Wide grin the one that shoots all skulls at once right?

[tame cloud]

gotcha

[livid tartan]

Hmm, i was skeptical about mel staff at first, but holy hell it's strong

[chilly swift]

Yes it is

[indigo badger]

Oh, agreed, avoid like the plague, the convinience it seems to bring isnt worth it because it messes with the usual combo of just attack once or twice the special and repeat

[livid tartan]

Just gave me an easy win against arena boss in oceanus

[opal bay]

rn i can see mel staff + fire ball build very strong

[livid tartan]

all you need is zeus attack and any high % special

dash attack, special. repeat ad nauseum

[indigo badger]

Is still funny to me how similar the saff dash attack and the regular special are, but its somehor very damn practical, as it means you can have the same attack with two different gods

Its very easy to proc the 2 curses arcana that way

[livid tartan]

regular special used to be different

[formal pulsar]

Is harm of the afflicted still comically bad?

[livid tartan]

used to just be a straight up projectile

GAH, i failed the moros prophecy again?

[indigo badger]

That reminded me that i still have to do the dress phrophecy, any recomendations on that one?

[livid tartan]

Start with Silk Sash, hope you get Hephaestus

I used...um... Hel I think?

[slate zodiac]

What do you guys like to take on Nyx Coat?

[indigo badger]

Figured it would be something like that

[surreal hazel]

Ram enemies, smoosh hands into attack and special buttons

[slate zodiac]

Erm...no, I meant starting boon lol

[livid tartan]

POS attack is pretty good

for nyx

[surreal hazel]

Flame Flourish

[indigo badger]

Poseidon on attack, zeus on special, on both the nix and shiva aspects

[inland pumice]

Circe aspect is my current favorite weapon, love covering the whole room in casts

[indigo badger]

oh wait just realized, the "cast enemies upon entry" of hera's cast, triggers twice if you use circe?

because that would be funny if it worked like that

[chilly swift]

Which Gain do you guys like for Momus staff - I'm unsure between Hestia and Apollo? Or maybe Zeus?

[spiral wadi]

begging for them to fix rival hecate expanding circle continuing to expand if hecate is phased

[tame cloud]

Been trying it out but I can't help but get hit a lot when I use my special since it doesnt really count as a dash.. or maybe im playing it wrong, but im getting hit A LOT for little damage

user error probably but damn!!

[odd bolt]

yeah it takes a while to get used to

mel aspect is also really really good if you wanna try that

[indigo badger]

It takes a while, but the funny nukes, are indeed funny

[chilly swift]

It definitely rewards knowing enemy attacks and safe zones - one thing that helps is you can special slightly to the side of attacking enemies and still pick up the skulls, if it's too dangerous to special right into them. Demeter cast really helps, freezing enemies gives you a lot of safety

[indigo badger]

With how big the explosion radius of the attacks are, its also a good idea to have demeter on attacks, for either entering or to escape out of enemy range in a safe manner, you can also do that with casts

It takes a whileto get used to timings where you can get in, if you struggle with a bunch of small enemies, you can stack them with a cast

Or take away shields with the omega attack before going in

[indigo viper]

Idk if anyone shared it: https://www.leereamsnyder.com/hades-2-build-guide

I'm rather casual and mid player but I love his builds ideas for hades 1.

[viral yew]

This is like the 5th time

[indigo viper]

Oh, sorry.

[tough pasture]

how many casts can one stack on circe aspect? is there a limit?

[tame cloud]

Okay I managed to beat chronos!! Not my favorite build and feels quite janky but I guess it did do its job 🎉

[viral yew]

Huh? You can only get 2 at a time

[split igloo]

So do we have an agreed upon best builds? other than medea

its just too strong

[tough pasture]

it was even stronger before the 90% cast bug fix.

But "U SHUT UR MOUF!"

/Don't need SgG nerfing any more aspects. (Look how they massacred my boy pan!)

[elfin forge]

buff medea it's so weak

[split igloo]

oh pan on the sister blades lmao

that was the bow from hades 1 part 2

[hard plover]

Lmfao, I have spent the past 3 hours writing out test builds for Hades 2

My hand is tired af

[split igloo]

artemis is better than pan right now i reckon

[hard plover]

I have gotten almost 4/6 weapons with each of their aspects in consideration

[tough pasture]

artemis aspect stinks imo. i despise that aspect. trying to charge up the parry mechnic feels terrible to me (my opinion).

[split igloo]

wdym i absolutely love it

it also like one shots chronos if you do it right

[tough pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/jalen-rose-towel-made-it-gif-14554386

[split igloo]

well you cant one shot

[lean crypt]

nuh uh™

[split igloo]

since damage gates but ykwym

[hard plover]

Nah

What is blud on about

[split igloo]

it does stinky damage if you get the correct setup

also you just dont take damage with it

[dull rapids]

to hell with typhon maaan 😄
i made it.

but close nonetheless

[elfin sentinel]

I just oblilterated typhon in under 2 minutes >:3

I have the whole thing clipped too 👀

[dull rapids]

hello night-neighbor 😄

[elfin sentinel]

hello!~

congrats on beating 'em!!~

[dull rapids]

thank you 🙂
Last time i lost to him after my first finish against prometheus

but this time its on fear 8 by accident ~

[elfin sentinel]

NICE

[tame cloud]

What do y'all like to run on melinoe coat?

[elfin sentinel]

I only went through the minimum fear for the surface thing..

(I forget what number that is specifically lol)

[dull rapids]

whops, i didnt beat typhon, just the big eye-beast ... 💀

[elfin sentinel]

OH

GOOD LUCK!!

[elfin forge]

well you're almost there

[dull rapids]

thanks i guess xD

[bronze pine]

Go get em champ

[elfin sentinel]

can I share the clip of my victory here? I want to show off how wickedly powerful the build I had was lol
(maxed out "summon last defeated enemy" path of stars + aspect of persephone exploding skull thing + "skulls perform omega blast when returning" + restore 165 mana when cast expires + cast expires faster)

[bronze pine]

btw do we know how we get rarify? I feel like it's kinda random outside the 1st one

[desert shell]

Does wounds proc origination?

[indigo badger]

the two casts with the circe aspect do damage upon entry with hera?

[dull rapids]

yeh lol im dead.
i didnt even figure the second phase out by just looking at their attacks,
everything's exploding

[indigo badger]

yes

[desert shell]

Does grievous blow affect all damage or just attacks and specials?

[indigo badger]

i mean with rousing reception specifically

[viral yew]

Yes

[viral yew]

If it just says attack and special, then just those two, if it just says damage, then it's universal

[indigo badger]

its a conditional, "if the enemy has wounds", there is a chance of 200% damage

[desert shell]

It says "struck" which is kinda unclear

[sacred storm]

i think the only thing that doesn't work with grevious blow is scorch dot. everything else is fair game.

[viral yew]

Just means whatever attack triggers it does 200% damage

[odd bolt]

okay so the only weapon i haven't played at all in EA is anubis staff, what do y'all do with it?

[sacred storm]

anubis o-special is weirdly strong, you can build around that and have a good time.

[elfin forge]

fire nuclear bombs

[sacred storm]

or lean into the attack damage field and give it something like poseidon, hestia, or hera

air quality can be funny if you stack enough weak on-hit things with it

also, key tech for anubis: when charging an o-attack, you can dash in between placing the initial damage field and placing the o-attack crescent. this lets you position the o-attack in ways that are either unusually disjointed from the base attack field, or overlapping it entirely for extra damage ticks.

[indigo badger]

the weirdest part of anubis for me is that the omega attack is not actually a cone, just the end of one

[dull rapids]

can one even use backstab against typhon?
he is facing you head first

[sacred storm]

i've seen the backstab indicator pop up vs him but i couldn't tell you where his backstab point is

[elfin forge]

Oattack, yeah. But like Paranoid said you can dash to reposition it to other places

[odd bolt]

i kinda wanna do that

[viral yew]

You gotta attack him facing the other way

[odd bolt]

will try thx

[indigo badger]

wanna go circe, any funny cast ideas?, because i really wanna test interactions

[viral yew]

Zeus

[sacred storm]

glorious disaster? not because it's good but because i want to see if someone can make it work.

[indigo badger]

like, does apollo's gain triggers twice, what about reception of hera, does that trigger twice too?

[viral yew]

Yes, everything triggers twice

[indigo badger]

witch one was that?

[sacred storm]

oh that's a good question re: apollo gain on circe

glorious disaster is apollo/zeus duo

needs prominence flare and any zeus core boon i think

[indigo badger]

if apollo triggers twice with circe, i might have the magick needed to sustain it

might as well slap sousing reception just to see if it works

what's the best familiar for circe anyways?

[viral yew]

Raki

[indigo badger]

that makes sense, Raki tends to be on top of enemies most of the time

[viral yew]

She will also fly to Mel if she gets too far away, and is the best familiar for stacking casts

[indigo badger]

if there are two cast on top of the same enemy, both will deal damage at the same time?

that could be funny with zeus

[sacred storm]

i think so yes

definitely for ocast at least

[indigo badger]

well, time to test this one out

[viral yew]

Yes

[next plover]

im on a run and looking to get a special boon but can't decidde on which god. https://imgur.com/a/vWkB4Ao

[indigo badger]

just tested apollo's gain with circe, it does in fact triggers twice

that's funny actually

[next plover]

playing "daggers"

[sacred storm]

you've got origination covered so i'd say it literally doesn't matter

[next plover]

i see

[sacred storm]

maybe hera so you can weave attack/special for orig without needing to sprint or cast

but i expect most of your damage will end up coming from attack and blitz anyway

oh wait i just saw you have hestia and poseidon boons in your pool as well

[next plover]

i got the 3 specials on a cone thing that's why i was being picky

I tried to max the dmg from the boon that gives you 3% per each good in pool by hera

[bronze flax]

It gets better, with Aspect of Momus' turrets, it triggers three times

[sacred storm]

trick knives (throw 3 specials on dash attack) is good yeah. i'm actually going to say take hestia special to open up the thermal dynamics duo.

[next plover]

i still haven't unlocked the codex to check which duo boons i can look for sadly

[sacred storm]

(zeus/hestia, enemies hit by blitz also take a bunch of scorch)

[next plover]

missing ares c:

[indigo badger]

can the crystal figurine trigger judgment?

[sacred storm]

yes

[next plover]

that is what i was thinkin'

[indigo badger]

oh

[next plover]

looks like i'll hit that one

[sacred storm]

obviously the odds aren't terribly high but if you get lucky and roll it zone 1 you can end up with a full or near-full arcana board by the end of the run

depending on how many arcana you had at the start

[odd bolt]

"hmm i will let circe activate one of my arcanas what could go wrong? "

strength inactive!

[sacred storm]

main reason i never take the figurine tbh. i run strength so dd effects brick it.

[viral yew]

It's like gambling except you can't get anything good

[formal pulsar]

shimmering moonshot with ares on special and heinous affront with light smite is really cool. full room nuke

[latent marsh]

Yeah it's insane

[next plover]

does zeus' infusion to make min 50dmg works for scorch proqs?

[formal pulsar]

no

[daring nexus]

Aspect of Persephone + Jeweled Pom is hilariously overpowered.

[indigo viper]

Afk supay build with Hestia dash gives me my only 40f clears.
In any way - it's insane it's just moves free around and everything else die.

[jovial socket]

https://i.imgur.com/9tP1Gw7.png

[indigo badger]

ok i got apollo's cast with glorious disaster, just nuked poly into the dreamscape

[jovial socket]

any tips for Rival chronos?

[indigo badger]

this just happened to me, wonder what are the odds

[sacred storm]

play cautious, don't try to hit him "out of turn" while he's still in a constant attack flurry pattern

[indigo badger]

pretty sure the only reason this is working as well as it does is because i got an epic winner's circle from hermes

[indigo viper]

Turn off Strenght, turn on death
1st phase is the same as usual.
2nd remember about one hits consecutive moves and kill asap regenerative hourglasses
3rd - avoid standing on the hour plate (esp at start of fight) and be patient - I generally use hit and run tactic.
And remember to put your cast often and a lot - it helps slow down chronos a bit and get out of his attack range.

[next plover]

what worked for me best in chronos is reading when he's loading up his scythe and dodge to his back

generally going into the back of bosses allways kinda help

[edgy nacelle]

I'd agree with play cautious for rivals chronos, especially while still learning the fight.
weapons which let you deal damage more passively can also be nice...? I got my first win against him with Eos back in EA since it let me focus on dodging but still whittle away at his health bar. some hidden aspects are good at this too.
in general investing in defensive stuff also helps, i.e. DDs, dodge, health upgrades and such.
and I guess just focus on learning his tells and patterns so you can play less defensively next time

[next plover]

managed to kill typhon siuuuuuuuu

[indigo viper]

Tbh, vor typhoon is quite easy.

Vor Hecate, Scylla and Chronos are harder.

[formal pulsar]

vor typhon is not easy

[next plover]

what is a "vor" boss?

[formal pulsar]

vow of rivals

[indigo viper]

Vows of rivals aka extreme measures from h1

[latent marsh]

To me vor typhon is the 2ed hardest boss

Right behind vor scylla

[indigo badger]

what are the effects of "omega moves cost more but X", because i have been doing nothing but spam omega cast and i get way more that i spend by doing that

[latent marsh]

Carybdis is just too much for me sometimes lol

[edgy nacelle]

could you give a specific example...? what boons are you talking abt, like what is "but X" specifically

[latent marsh]

Depends on the boon

[indigo viper]

You'll get extra dmg/effect from omega's moves but your mana cost to cast them increased.

[latent marsh]

Fe fine line will make your omega moves shoot a laser after using it but it'll cost 15 Magick more

[indigo badger]

circe + glorious disaster + apollo gain

i genuienly get way too much magick, as it cost 45 per omega cast, but i get 100*2 when they expire

[indigo viper]

Caus apollo gain covers up it.

[sacred storm]

you're going to have to be more specific because there's a lot of them. apollo's legendary makes the omega fire twice for +30 magic. hera and poseidon fire off a separate effect with each omega for extra magic. hestia does the same but only for omega special. ares has one that drops a sword on anyone hit by an omega for extra magic.

[prisma moss]

guys have you found about the selene summon where u kill one guy and then the guy is so strong it solos typhon?

[latent marsh]

Thats just circe with Apollo gain lol

[indigo badger]

oh i somehow forgot about apollo legerndary, it would be funny with glorious disaster

[dull rapids]

is there a point to check cerberus locations for stones around the edges?

[sacred storm]

apollo legendary only applies to oattack and ospecial, not ocast

[indigo viper]

And make you're regenerate more mana than you use.
Normally boons like thick red lines makes your omega attack hits harder but costs more.

[split igloo]

supay?

[indigo badger]

oh damn

i will have to check witch ones work specifically with casts

[tame cloud]

Asking again since I think I asked at a bad time

[indigo viper]

Try Chronos' axe with apollo legendary and giga cleaver hammer.

[indigo viper]

Torches hidden aspect.

[formal pulsar]

nyx coat with hera on special

[indigo badger]

currently on a surface run with circe staff, got glorious disaster (zeus/apollo duo), got Winner's circle from hermes and the apollo gain, have been doing nothing but spam omega special cast since the whole run

[sacred storm]

special?

[edgy nacelle]

tbqh I generally don't run Mel coat lol, Nyx coat feels like it does a lot of the same things just better 🤷
but! if you want to lean into the fast attack speed then on-hit effects are good. splash, scorch, chain lightning, that sort of thing. it's a pretty flexible weapon though and with the right hammers you can make most things decent

[tame cloud]

I currently don't own Nyx, I'll work towards it, but I'm asking for Mel's aspect right now

Ill have to go do a fear run I think

[indigo viper]

Demeter on attack, Hestia on special + their duos.

[latent marsh]

Hestia attack dem special freezer burn

[edgy nacelle]

lmao two opposite freezer burn recs... freezer burn is great, agreed

[formal pulsar]

if mel coat then do, poseidon attack and zeus to get static shock. best hammer is exhaust riser (+3 dash strickes)

[tame cloud]

Well I'm getting two different answers here lol

[latent marsh]

Also attack speed from Hermes

[tame cloud]

three!

[latent marsh]

Thats also a fun one

[indigo viper]

But all agreed - aim dem/hestia duo. xD

[tame cloud]

I'll try demeter and hestia yeah, then I can try poseidon and zeus next time

[formal pulsar]

scorch attack or poseidon are good. you dont want % attack like dem imo. but either builds work

[indigo viper]

I rarely play coat, don't like it.

[edgy nacelle]

tbh I say start hestia, since she showed up in all but one recommendation lol, and just take attack or special, then aim for demeter later

poseidon start is also great for mel coat, so starting with either one will put you on a good path I think no matter what else you get

[indigo viper]

But I absolutely love skull (besides Mel's aspect) and axes.

Really like how they changed persephone in EA.

[velvet hawk]

sorry dyno

erm as i was saying

[odd ruin]

man, I kind of miss the old cronos fight. he's kind of a pushover now

[velvet hawk]

i would like to formally apologize for saying the torches are boring, i have been converted

theyre like crack

the moros one is so satisfying

[edgy nacelle]

torches are so fun
I like p much every aspect so much lol.
have you tried a ripple effect spam build? 👀 on moros or mel?

[odd ruin]

I finally used the torches a bit ago, they're pretty goofy. I used hestia for them

[velvet hawk]

oo sounds fun, i havent

current run is with aphro and zues

[edgy nacelle]

fine line + whatever the poseidon boon is that does a similar thing + their duo + lots of channel speed and magick regen is kinda crazy

[velvet hawk]

noted

[edgy nacelle]

ocean swell! that's the one, also success rate if you can get it

this is from EA but I posted a screenshot of my first ripple effect run cause I was addicted lol: #h2-victory-boasting message

if you want it to go really crazy then queen's ransom is also an option, but setting that up is hard

[velvet hawk]

will let you know once i try it out

[velvet hawk]

Mm

i never really played with hera before so even more of a reason to try it out

[edgy nacelle]

hera's really good on moros torches actually! hitch is great and her magick regen is very good. just grab some max magick upgrades and you pretty much never run out

it's fun, lmk if you have a good run with her

[velvet hawk]

will do

[red ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233146305308528650/1423425152338759860/MedalTVHadesII20251002154114.mp4?ex=68e0437a&is=68def1fa&hm=37cc5a4c4f6e8b5c77a7d9d953580eb529a1eb83759c3d04ed43115320ab1178&

my wrists hurt pretty bad for like 10 min after this

if anyones wondering why I dont have an attack boon I was hoping for an aphrodite boon at the last shop

[indigo viper]

Oh, need some help?

[split igloo]

the funniest interaction has to be turning chronos's healing hourglass into your puppet

so it heals you instead at a really fast rate too

[red ocean]

thats how I won against chronos first try on my full release save

[split igloo]

i swear they added those recently

i dont remember them at all

[red ocean]

pretty sure they added it with the full release

[indigo viper]

They added them in unseen update? Before there were the basic, gold hourglases.

And Typhon before doesn't have this annoying veins move too.

[formal pulsar]

typhon before unseen didnt have the eye blast and the vines at last phase

[formal pulsar]

never make the perfect the enemy of the good. any attack boon here would have killed typhon. you just needed that small bit of omphh

[indigo viper]

M an, I really like hades 2 gameplay but sometimes it annoys me how much it turned into some bullets hell.

[red ocean]

yeah I turned up a blue ares attack boon in the room before the shop

big mistake

[indigo viper]

Yor reminded me my boonless medea run and barely-any-boon pan. Was funny.

[slate zodiac]

How exactly does Persephone Skull work? Like, the level boon thing

[lean crypt]

wait wtf

i bought a star path from charon and it only had 3

but it also used up my selene keepsake

:(

[formal pulsar]

every time you get a boon, it rolls a die to pom up on all three of your selected boons. but it is a weighted die. so not all odds are equal. and then you get +lvl to your boon from 1 to 5

[civic ocean]

Small correction - from 0 to 5

The most weighted result is a level 1 boon and the least weighted is level 6

[dull rapids]

Wow.
I felt so good fighting with the boom bombs in oceanus,
then i accidently dashed through her when she had her 4 lasers going on and
i immediatly nuked myself with 4x22 dmg.
Instant death

[median pawn]

||why does zag deal so much dmg even through strength arcana||

does aphro or attack special get affected by origination's %50 dmg amp?

[dull rapids]

im not sure

[spiral wadi]

all damage is affected by origination

[sage flame]

origination happens closer to the end of the calculation so yes, but because aphro's damage is just your base weapon power with the % bonus, and then the orig damage boost happens

[median pawn]

then nergal is not that good on dmg department :/

[sage flame]

it's not like crazy

stacking % damage has diminishing returns basically

[median pawn]

you might say skill issue and you would be right

[sage flame]

but orig is still really good

[sage flame]

nergal has high base power which means it gets better use out of % boosts like aphro

[median pawn]

I think im making the mistake of not using its omega attack as much

I just want to stand still and attack but doesnt work against ||zag||

[sage flame]

yeah it's oattack is great

esp if you get psychic whirlwind

and yeah ||zag|| just does a ton of damage

[tight marten]

anubis my beloved, all I have to say

[sage flame]

50 on the spins iirc maybe like 40 or something for the pokes?

and I've never gotten hit by the cast but I assume it's a damage amp?

[tight marten]

without strenght?

[sage flame]

yea

I had dds

[tight marten]

phew

[sage flame]

yeah

bros doing this boonless

[tight marten]

what's your favorite hidden aspect!!!!!

[sage flame]

probably ||morrigan or shiva||

[tight marten]

||shiva..?||

where.. where is ||anubis||, where is ||supay||..

[median pawn]

glamour gain or born gain

[tight marten]

glsmour!!

[median pawn]

that and the aphro boon that gives you %dmg against weak is so goated

I also like snuffed candle with it

big numbers are very fun

[spiral wadi]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1051942150025269309/1423443535419543662/4E6A5E1CE71EA76F.mp4 oh my god fix your god damn visual clarity i swear to god

literally impossible to focus on the entire goddamn screen when the screen goes pink and it expects u to see "haha pink projectile" in the pink

[tight marten]

I can't even see the thing

holy shiiit

that was hard to see

[spiral wadi]

it's also scylla and jetty are at the bottom so it's like "ok focus in the bottom of the screen" but then uh oh super fast pink projectile coming from above that u can't see in the peripheral because of pink

[tight marten]

yeah bad

(use strenght)

[spiral wadi]

67f no arcana

[tight marten]

whu

why???

are you a masochist or something?

[spiral wadi]

ye

[tight marten]

oh ok

[spiral wadi]

made it to chronos once, made it to cerb twice, made it to scylla like 10-ish times but it's stupid hard to see

[tight marten]

jeez

[polar ravine]

did you ever try the surface 67f?

[spiral wadi]

hell no typhon would be ass

[tight marten]

I hate promotheus and his stupid memory game

[median pawn]

how is this almost harder than rivals typhon

[tight marten]

no way man

[spiral wadi]

right? at least typhon i can actually see what's going on

[tight marten]

what??!

[median pawn]

also at frenzy 2 game breaks I think

half of the animations are intelligible

I can sell boons only in tartarus how do I unluck the other levels

[tight marten]

incantations I think

[median pawn]

I didnt get the recipe

[stable herald]

sell a few boons in the Tart purging pool and it'll show up

took me forever because I never purged anything lol

[median pawn]

ah makes sense

I mean what do you purge other than bridal gown and kings ransom lol

[stable herald]

tbh I did it just to get the incant and purged a couple of non-essential secondary boons

[stone sparrow]

hey guys!! random question but rare volcanic flourish lvl 3 rare or sworn flourish level 4 heroic... sorry if it's a dumb question

[stable herald]

knowing absolutely nothing else about your build I'd pick Sworn Flourish, but it'd help if we knew what weapon and aspect you were rocking and if you had any of Heph's other boons that buff blasts

[stone sparrow]

nah im unlucky and have only recieved volc flourish thus far - rocking the twin blades with aspect of melinoe level 5 !!

[stable herald]

yeah I'd go for Sworn, Heph's core boons aren't that good until you upgrade the hell out of them - then they become really, really good. But usually it's better to pick something that's good right away

[stone sparrow]

really appreciate your help, friend!! thank you!!!

[tight marten]

anubis supremacy

[tribal wedge]

Is there any god comparable to ares on hel?

With her o-special

[stable herald]

in terms of spreading status around, Hera and Zeus both rock the special. Demeter too but not for damage, just for Freeze being really good - but if you're going for Freezer Burn I'd rather have Demeter cast with Winner's Circle

[tribal wedge]

I see ty

[inland pumice]

woof I just finished my first Greater Chaos Below trial, that was nuts lol. I had 100% scars so no healing the whole run, I had to rely on max hp up to get my health up, and I only had one DD through Toula

Thank god frenzy wasn't on, I would have been cooked

[last cape]

I've rewatched this like 10 times trying to figure out what even killed you. Istg sometimes Hades 2 just decides you take damage

[inland pumice]

It's a charybdis tentacle shot from the top of the screen, you can see the pink spear looking shot

It comes in very fast, I would guess frenzy was on, and it also kinda blends in with the drummer attack covering the floor which is why it's hard to see

[spiral wadi]

i was depending on peripheral at that moment since i was dealing with the bottom tentacle and wanted to space myself, also since scylla and jetty were at the bottom

and yes 67f so the oath is maxed

[tall notch]

Red have you tried turning some oaths off? Should make the run easier

[chilly swift]

Man, I just did a surface run with Aspect of Momus and 8 Fear (Time 2, Menace 2, Shadow 1) and it was so stressful, finished with just 20 seconds left

[spiral wadi]

nah schelemeus keeps turning it back on i can't help it

[hard plover]

Question

What is the best arcana setup for any weapon?

[stray shore]

i just found out a really cool interaction: if u have ecstatic obsession (aphrodite and era duo, gives charm to a foe in an encounter) in the second phase of chrono, one of the things that heal him will heal u, u basically cant die

[tight marten]

strenght

[spiral wadi]

prob huntress on moros

[chilly swift]

I'll DM you a screenshot of what I use for most runs, taken from a guide written by someone who does max fear runs

[hard plover]

Ah okie do

Lmfao I spent like 5 hours today compiling about 6 packets for each weapon and their aspects

Wrote out run ideas

That I looked up

I wrote about 12 pages

[hard plover]

Plz do lol

[chilly swift]

I did! =)

[hard plover]

Did ya dm me, I don’t see it

[chilly swift]

I did DM you

[hard plover]

Now I see

Thank you

[stray shore]

is it better to use strenght or death?

[stray shore]

can you send it to me too please?

[chilly swift]

Sure!

[spiral wadi]

if ur starting off then definitely death, once u get more confident in runs then u can start trying strength

it's an adjustment but it makes ur effective hp go insane

[stray shore]

thanks guys

[signal coral]

its up to preference

I'm running death right now but I spent a long time running strength

people of all skill levels run both and its fine

except speedrunning, if you are actually gonna hardcore speedrun then strength is mandatory

[stray shore]

oh okok thanks

[stable herald]

Strength I think gives you more effective health, makes each point of healing and max HP stronger, and gives a little damage boost on top

Death gives more safety especially against oneshots, and will end up as more effective HP if you get refills during a run

[stray shore]

i think imma try strenght now i never did

[signal coral]

I would say start with death when you are new, once you are able to max out the strength arcana give it a try

[rugged moon]

tips for anubis? having areal hard time understanding its pattern

[signal coral]

and then afterwards just run the one you like more

[signal coral]

dash attack, channel omega attack, dash backwards and place the omega into the circle

[restive bolt]

hey rq does crit chance apply to wounds applications

[rugged moon]

good boons?

[stable herald]

yes, they stack multiplicatively

[rugged moon]

wound is just power to the applying hit

it stacks just like power does

[signal coral]

idk i like hestia attack on anubis but im not actually sure its optimal

[stable herald]

oh my bad, I thought you meant does crits stack with Grievous Blow... I answered a different question

[signal coral]

its just cool to put down giga burning fields

@rugged moon basic attack combo should look something like this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1377540616690597908/1423462017817247916/Recording_2025-10-02_200855.mp4?ex=68e065cf&is=68df144f&hm=3cef89530689a755d7072e29f902e14866556eb0a89fdb4ccf76d275c82b76b8&

make sure to dash attack because it comes out faster than regular attack

[spiral wadi]

o damn that's cool tech

i never played anubis but that's cool as hell

[median pawn]

apart from sirens which rivals fight is the worst

[stable herald]

Chronos, easily

but Rivals Scylla is a menace

[median pawn]

I think hecate on low time is also very hard just because you have to kill all other witches

but that's to say if you didnt get a good boon

[spiral wadi]

for uw prob chronos, for surface it's either prometheus or typhon

[plain fossil]

If by worst you mean worst designed its prometheus imo

[spiral wadi]

at least i can see what's going on in prom fight

[median pawn]

how do you guys play on frenzy 2 I legit cant tell half of the animations

[plain fossil]

I cant play with frenzy 2 off anymore

[median pawn]

skill issue on my part ig

[plain fossil]

All my timings are wrong

[median pawn]

also it took me a lot of runs to realize bosses get fast and their attacks get fast too

I thought it was only for mobs' movespeed

[signal coral]

know what enemy attacks are
then play until you get used to it

when i turned on frenzy for the first time i got owned for like the next 10 runs

knowing enemy attacks is important though so you actually know what to be dodging

[plain fossil]

Yer its the one vow that i recommend ppl turn on asap if they want to progress to high fear

[signal coral]

like im getting owned by rivals bosses atm because i dont know any of their patterns

and cant sight read them with frenzy on

[plain fossil]

That and denial which im pretty sure should be negative fear lmao

[spiral wadi]

yea it's why i recommend learning rivals at frenzy 0 first

[signal coral]

but the regular bosses are fine with frenzy on now

[spiral wadi]

i did it like "frenzy 0, then 1, then 2"

ik it's prob better to do 0 to 2 but that's like a big jump compared to 1 and 2

[plain fossil]

I just slammed my face into them a lot

Lmao

[signal coral]

like I run into the new boss they added
have no idea what any of his moves do
all of a sudden an attack comes out and ends and I'm -60 hp

but on frenzy 0 he was fine since I could actually read and react to his startups

[plain fossil]

Btw is it just me or is rivals eris less difficult than regular eris on a lot of builds

[spiral wadi]

me when rivals bosses were released and polyphemus grab was 0.3sec and could grab you from narnia

[signal coral]

did they make him easier?

[spiral wadi]

yea poly's mega easy

[signal coral]

honestly I think poly is easier than hecate at the moment

[spiral wadi]

hecate was adjusted to not be a pain in the ass this patch thankfully

[signal coral]

like the fight is mostly just the same fight but with a bunch of poison on the ground (which is admittedly annoying)

[spiral wadi]

and yes rivals eris is way easier

[signal coral]

whereas hecate I still have no idea wtf is going on half the time

[plain fossil]

Poly rivals doesnt have enough hp but imo his moveset is kinda troll compared to hecate

[signal coral]

poly's attacks still look the same and are dodged mostly the same way

the fight just restricts where you're allowed to stand a lot

so I'm better at that fight right now than I am at hecate

its mostly just inexperience currently though

[plain fossil]

Yea im the opposite rn, im still learning both id say

[spiral wadi]

poly's just way more punishing with a more straightforward gameplan

[plain fossil]

Certainly not doing poly hitless on anything other than charon atm

[spiral wadi]

hecate's more of a "haha hope you adapt in 0.5sec or die"

[signal coral]

with poly i feel like im playing well then I get hit a few times and almost die

but when the fight ends I think to myself "dam if only I wasnt stupid I would be full hp"

[plain fossil]

Maybe just skill issue idk

[signal coral]

with hecate i have no idea wtf is going on and then I almost die

and I end the fight at roughly the same hp as poly but somehow the fight feels more frustrating

[plain fossil]

I can do rival hecate hitless pretty comfortably now if im not under timer pressure

Fml this language bot

What i said was that timer makes u stand in dumb stuff sometimes

[median pawn]

I wish in trainin ground we could try different boon setups

[signal coral]

i have timer 3 permanently on

[median pawn]

especially hammers

[signal coral]

gotta go fast

[median pawn]

its so fun but in low fear its literally meaningless

[signal coral]

if the strategy makes me go slow then i dont want to learn it because going slow is cringe

so timer 3 permanently on just ensures I will never be cringe and run away from enemies

i do agree that for the most part timer is free without a lot of other fear on top

[median pawn]

going for giga dmg, making them go to phase two and not having to dodge enemy attacks is fun too

[signal coral]

right now im averaging around 15-16 min runs I think

[median pawn]

is there a cooldown on aspect of medea's special?

[signal coral]

though i'm still on a newish save file without everything unlocked so still playing in the 10-20 fear range

[median pawn]

that if you dont move you cant cast it insta

[signal coral]

whatever the normal cooldown on special is

you can basically perma dash with medea

[median pawn]

whoever I watch they have no issue spamming but I always get stuck somewhere

and im pretty sure im clicking right too

[signal coral]

could be you are pressing it too early

if you press both attack and special simultaneously the game will prioritize attack and your special input will be eaten

[bronze flax]

I don't understand what is that "wave" that appeared after you dashed, is that an Omega Attack? I thought the Omega Attack looked pretty much similar to the Attack lol

[signal coral]

regular attack is a big circle on the ground that does low damage
omega attack is an arc on the ground that does high damage

if you just stand still and channel omega attack it lands on the edge of the circle

[bronze flax]

Ohh, maybe I charged the Omega Attack and after that the Attack appeared and I thought it was part of the Omega Attack lmao

[signal coral]

but if you dash before putting it down it lands in the middle of the circle, which is a much better spot for it

you also want to dash attack the regular attack because it makes the circle come out a lot faster

so you dash -> attack -> hold to charge omega -> dash -> let go of the omega (after pointing it back into the circle, of course)

[median pawn]

that might be it

ty

[sudden belfry]

ok chat taking on ||typhon|| again havent beaten him yet any Tipssss

[spiral wadi]

when u get past the second egg phase, typhon's chin is what triggers the three tendril wave

his tongue laser attack has a blindspot right in front of his face, but if ur in a situation where u can't, u just gotta dash thru

[viral yew]

Don't get hit :3

[sudden belfry]

ok ok I CAN DO THIS....

[spiral wadi]

iirc the bottom part of the stage is prof the most safest place u can be

[sudden belfry]

gotcha!!

[spiral wadi]

obv harder to do damage but i don't recall typhon exactly having any gotchas for sticking to the bottom, tho ig he has the forehead projectile but that's kinda more of a "aight time to go back up"

[viral yew]

Yeah you wanna flip flop between the top and bottom

[spiral wadi]

actually that one iirc in 4th phase will always blow up in typhon's face before it splits into three, so u kinda wanna stick to the horizontal middle-ish bottom before going straight/diagonal up after the initial explosion

[signal coral]

wait can you elaborate on this

they changed typhon's last phase from when i played last and im still not super used to his patterns

i kind of just facetank them and kill

[spiral wadi]

when typhon chin slams, there will be a short visual cue before the three tendrils will show up in a wave, starting from the bottom, then middle, then top

[signal coral]

ah okay

I knew the tendrils were there i just thought they showed up randomly

[spiral wadi]

yea they used to be random in warsong

i think they might have been rng in unseen release too

[signal coral]

i dont think they existed in unseen

[viral yew]

And then while the tendrils spin he'll try and tongue you again

[signal coral]

i dont remember his last phase being very complicated back then

[spiral wadi]

usually yea, sometimes he'll also do the falling eggs or smth else

[signal coral]

also for the exploding ball in the last phase does it always explode at the top of the stage?

or is it just exploding there because im standing there meleeing him like a degenerate

[spiral wadi]

the forehead ball yea it always explodes in typhon's face in last phase

[viral yew]

This

Oh it does?

[signal coral]

it doesnt explode there in the first few phases right?

[sudden belfry]

UUUAAAAAGH
GDI

he is so hard chat. he is so hard

[signal coral]

because i just max dps standing perma-underneath him

and I notice the explody ball usually doesnt hit me first phase

but usually hits me last phase

[spiral wadi]

yea it usually just tracks u

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/773298528310001716/1423480501863190682/clipsss.mp4 forehead ball pattern in last phase

[sudden belfry]

honestly i think one of the hardest parts of the fight is the fact that the camera doesnt always follow you which trips me up more than it should

[viral yew]

Right ok

[spiral wadi]

tru

[signal coral]

thank you ❤️

actually helps a lot

[viral yew]

How does one upload clips

[spiral wadi]

link it

[viral yew]

I'm gonna sound so stupid, but with what

[spiral wadi]

i just send in another server and link the url, tho u can also use smth like imgur

[viral yew]

Love you

https://imgur.com/a/pJIHPBm

[sudden belfry]

what the hell LMAO

[viral yew]

I was doing so well

[sudden belfry]

damn 😔
what build is that tho damage went crazyyy

[viral yew]

Zeus attack hestia special on mel aspect

[spiral wadi]

strength diff

[sudden belfry]

reasons why ill never carry strength:

[sudden belfry]

gotcha gotcha

[viral yew]

Literally

[trail fern]

Hey guys, does anyone have any tips on how to deal with fast mobs using medea? I'm still new to medea but I'm struggling to hit them before they move, and sometimes I lost my attack and have to load another one before I can hit them - am I doing something wrong or is it just practice?

Also in a similar thing, anyone have any tips for medea against the eye of typhon? I just died to the small eyes they throw out because whenever I'd use my special I'd hit it and get hit in return - is there a way to avoid that for my next run?

[signal coral]

eye is free on medea

[ripe comet]

Just made it to Tartarus and I have the choice of going Straight to Chronos or choosing a mini boss room but for the mini boss room it has the symbol of a tablet on it, is that important or can I skip that for now

[signal coral]

just mash your attack pattern into the eye as fast as possible and you deal giga damage

[viral yew]

Do you have a ss?

[signal coral]

when the ball comes out you might have to dodge it then go back to mashing

[trail fern]

But when I tried on the little eyes I kept getting hit

[trail fern]

Wait, you don't have to kill the ball?? That makes things so much easier if not!

[signal coral]

the little eyes are annoying because medea is very close range and running into their hitbox is really easy

usually i take a safety boon that makes them less of an issue

yeah eye and typhon himself are free on medea because you can maximize dps with wall cancels super easily

since the bosses dont move and are permanently just a wall

[ripe comet]

I cant post the pic of it for some reasons but it looks like a sheet of paper next to the skull

[trail fern]

Wall cancels? Is that a fancy way to say they don't move and we can just punch indefinitely or is there a secret tech related to it?

[viral yew]

Dm me or smth

[signal coral]

that tablet means the room contains a fated list objective

its most likely a miniboss you havent fought yet

you can skip it and its fine, it will probably show up again within the next few runs

or do it now to get the quest out of the way

[peak urchin]

trying to run umbral flames, which of these deadalus hammers do you reccomend (going attack build): sudden burst, furious blaze, or leaden blaze

[magic cobalt]

New to the game, Charon ax plus appolo magic regen is busted

Glowing coal or lightning lance completes it

[unkempt sleet]

i like sudden burst but if your attack boon is % then i guess leaden blaze isn’t too bad

[vast turret]

Hello everyone.

Quick question. Does local climate from Demeter affect the aspect of Charon damage? Local climate tool tip says it increases omega cast damage if your are in the circle. However aspect of Charon tooltip says your Casts erupts like a "stronger Omega Cast". Does this boon affect the damage at all?

[trail fern]

Hey guys, out of trick, dancing and reoear knives, what would be best as my second hammer on my Mel daggers? I currently have wicked onslaught as my first hammer, with hestia attack and Zeus special

[elfin forge]

trick

[trail fern]

Sweet, thanks!

[elfin forge]

yes, if you're in the cast

[vast turret]

Right. Thanks Suace. I was not entirely sure if "Omega Cast" is the same as the "stronger Omega Cast".

[frigid tartan]

Just to be sure before I make a mistake. If I'm using strength arcana I should not pick lucky tooth, moros keepsake or athena (hoping for DD) right?

[elfin forge]

you should pick athena(but avoid her DD's)

athena keepsake only works if you don't have DDs, so it works all the time for strength

also avoid the cat familiar

[frigid tartan]

I'm at my first tartarus when running strength and don't know what keepsake to run. I already took off knuckle bones like a fool after biome 2 and my athena keepsake is common

Maybe icarus hammer?

OR is there something good enough that Athena can bring that it's good to run her this late?

[elfin forge]

athena keepsake is fine, to get divine dash or righteous pike

[frigid tartan]

Only got the impervious boon, but still managed to win

Strength + the Selene hex that heals you is too good 😭

And a lot of health from Demeter + Aphrodite, and got Self Healing at the end from a shop Apollo

[slate zodiac]

What do you guys start with Anubis?

[uneven palm]

Hera, Poseidon, Zeus, or Hestia attack

Or big percentage on specials and start spamming Omega specials, that’s good too

[elfin forge]

hestia keepsake, try to get a good cast like demeter

[lean yoke]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/1nvy036/you_cant_improve_perfection/

[brazen echo]

What's a good weapon to use with heph attacks/specials? Want to try him out as a main god to build around

[unkempt sleet]

persephone skull easily

[livid tartan]

Well damn, Boated just did a max fear run with it lol

[lime moth]

Best arcana cards for aspect of medea?

[rain kelp]

mild Hades 2 spoiler
I know ||Nergal is a real part of god entities but when I unlocked his aspect my immediate thought was the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy version ||

[lean yoke]

i use aspet of mel for everthing cause it's hers and no one else's

same with the aspects of zagreus

[stable saffron]

how does the boon "Life tax" work? does the boon vanish once I hit the limit?

[tall notch]

Based, you should also play without boons so that she's not reliant on power from the Olympians

[lean yoke]

i did that once in hades 1, there was dialogue for it

and more dialogue when i did it again

[twilit bison]

anyone have any tips for ROV Scylla - I'm trying a 32 fear run and just getting destroyed almost instantly if I start on the drummer like normal.

[plain fossil]

I tried mel staff a bit because this place was very enthusiastic about it

I struggle with aiming the special the hitbox is actually nonexistent

Skill issue i guess but man its annoying

[lean yoke]

my guess is go for the newcomer ||charybdis||

[plain fossil]

Drummer doesnt do anything so u can just dps it when it makes u run next to it with the aoe

I like to kill tentacles --> scylla --> jetty --> roxy if i can but sometimes ur just hitting what u can due to projectile spam and area denial

[tame spindle]

i tried lunar ray in EA and didnt like it, just picked it up again for the first time literally right after prometheus fight and it did 40k damage in the typhon region alone

the upgrade that splits it into 3 beams is crazy against typhon he takes like 15k damage every time u use it

[twilit bison]

ok might try tentacles first then - I was playing on time 3 and was just big panik trying to melt them all at once

feel like if I can get past Oceanus it'll be a clear run

[tall notch]

I like starting with bottom tentacles. Scylla will usually miss her first charge when you do that

A lot of that fight is about positioning. You can't let Scylla and Jetty overwhelm you and you also need to be mindful of when you approach the tentacles so that they don't hit you with that melee attack right as you dash into them

[civic ocean]

For what it’s worth if you just want the 32 clear I would turn off rivals 2 it’s definitely not worth 2 fear

It’s closer to 4 ish in valuation

[tall notch]

But consider that rivals sirens are peak boss design and I want them to experience it

[twilit bison]

yeah I wanna do rivals sirens but not at 32 lol

[civic ocean]

Peak boss design is when the aoes and projectiles are the same colour

[tall notch]

Yeah so you know to avoid that colour

[twilit bison]

if I was running the below, which extra vow would you take instead of rivals?

32 Fear: Time ✖️ 3 , Menace ✖️ 2, Shadow, Hubris ✖️ 2, Scars ✖️ 2, Fangs ✖️ 2, Return ✖️ 2, Denial, Rivals ✖️ 3 or Rivals ✖️ 2 + Pain ✖️ 2 or Rivals ✖️ 2 + Pain ✖️ 1 + Debt ✖️ 2

[spice orchid]

Is it just me or are those chaos trials hard as hell?

[tall notch]

Wards 2 if your weapon can deal with wards

[civic ocean]

Wards 2 or frenzy 1 probably

[twilit bison]

I've been running xinth with poseidon/zeus so probably

[tall notch]

Oh this has frenzy 0

Then yeah take frenzy

[twilit bison]

yeah I guess if I'm freezing most stuff with demeter cast it's just wardens/bosses to watch out for

[civic ocean]

Frenzy 1 takes a bit of getting used to but its pretty reasonable

[tall notch]

https://youtu.be/X8EbzKUJ6bk?t=15m
Ohh xinth is actually really good vs sirens, maybe just try keeping rivals on and taking a look at this timestamp to see how to fight them

[twilit bison]

yeah I never said the damage wasn't good, I was just surprised I melted so fast when I went for drummer

will take a look anyway

oh incidentally do you actually get to finish the run where ||Hecate gets kidnapped ||or does that one finish early/not count as a run

[tall notch]

|| I threw that run because I was practicing rivals 4 when doing the main story, but I believe you can ||

[inland chasm]

Hey, how do you play with the torches and not just constantly worry for your mana?

[tame spindle]

get a good gain boon

i've actually really liked apollos bc u can just spam cast every single time its down and not care about ur mana at all

[tall notch]

I wonder if that'd keep up with like fine line Moros

[tame spindle]

yeah moros is the only torch aspect i use and it does

just pom tf out of that gain

wait i did not register that fine line im gonna try it rn

[charred flame]

What's the highest level you've gotten a boon to? Currently got a lvl 14 blitz boon lol

[lean yoke]

note to self: pick hephaestus every time in a dispute

||his circles spawn right at my feet and i get hammered||

💀

[civic ocean]

Big key to the god trials especially ones like heph is to hold your dash until you see the circle

[lean yoke]

ooh, does that do anything?

i was tapping it, like with zagreus

[tall notch]

Wait east do you mean holding onto your dash or holding the button to sprint

[civic ocean]

Well you can sprint but what I meant was holding it as in not using it and saving it to dash out of the circle

On frenzy 2 its actually not possible to dash out of the circle if you dash and then it spawns

[tall notch]

I didn't even know family disputes get affected by frenzy

[tame spindle]

the answer is yes it definitely does, but i can't send the video of me beating chronos with it because i dont have nitro 😭