h2-builds-and-combat

[willow phoenix]

All of them play with a lot of omega, so most of the build is pretty similar. Outside of Circe ig but Circe is useless without mirrored thrasher.

[tame cloud]

I'll try Hera though

[tame cloud]

Omega would be aspect of Momus right?

[stable lichen]

kinda but not really

you charge up the spin and you can dash while holding attack

after the dash you automatically spin and it doesnt cancel your charge

[spare kite]

Staff's aspects are all omegas

[stable lichen]

you can use this to do very heavy damage to stuff like hecate when she initially does crossed flames

[spare kite]

But yeah momus is the best one for that

[willow phoenix]

Mel aspect also spams omega, it can channel like super fast with sorceress

[tame cloud]

Man info overload lmao, well - whats a good build for momus?

Any other boons you find important for this?

[cursive oyster]

blitz special is fun

[silent crow]

i dont really know i just kind of put % buffs on every button and click them all and things die

[spare kite]

If you wanna use the aspect do like
Hera/apollo attack
Take a funny special/cast

[tame cloud]

Demeter is usually always on my cast

[willow phoenix]

Add some freeze to make them stay in place

[stable lichen]

i cleared 24 for artemis with 3 regular god boons lmao

[tall notch]

I like arctic ring but that's just because I am terrible at melee and need the safety

[stable lichen]

and one of them was rare crop so i guess that doesnt really count

[spare kite]

If you only wanna use staff
Hera again
Pray for mirrored/wicked trasher
Get some mp regen from hestia/hera
Ignore everything else in your weapon

[tame cloud]

I think Apollo would be most useful because it would increase your omega range yea?

[spare kite]

This works regardless of aspect cuz none buff normals

[stable lichen]

im playing on a trackpad (yes i am insane) so the staff attack is just impossible to aim lol

[tame cloud]

The surface is really melee unfriendly for me so I'd wanna take the range

[spare kite]

Hitch is very nice in general but yeah apollo ain't wrong

[stable lichen]

then again trackpad only worked for H1 to the point that i could get 50 on zeus shield and 40 on at least one aspect of each weapon so it should hopefully work for H2

[spare kite]

Could work towards his legendary too

[tame cloud]

Okay currently have 3 builds written down then

The only one I've tried so far is
Aspect of Moros:

• Hera / Hestia Gain
• Zeus Special
• Hestia attack
• Demeter cast

Which was pretty fun ngl

[spare kite]

Moros moment

[willow phoenix]

Moros gaming

[tame cloud]

I want to do an aspect of pan build aswell with poseidon on special, dunno what else I need though

[willow phoenix]

That's it

[stable lichen]

does anyone feel like hestia's curse is just worse hangover

[tame cloud]

Lol alright

[willow phoenix]

Pray for king tide. Demeter cast for safety

[tame cloud]

nah I think it's pretty strong tbh

[spare kite]

Scorch is more fun than hangover for me

[tame cloud]

What's king tide? I dont know any boons by name

[stable lichen]

i feel like on its own hangover is weaker but hangover had the really good duos going for it

[willow phoenix]

Scorch deals a lot of damage in my runs

[spare kite]

Pos's legendary, waves do +200% vs bosses

[willow phoenix]

Poseidon legendary

[tame cloud]

Are there any prerequisites you need to get a legendary?

[slate trench]

if you really wanna break pan get wolf howl and the powerup where your next special crits, guranteed crit on every single knife strike for omega special

[willow phoenix]

You can check the book of shadows

[tame cloud]

Once again I don't really know boons by name

[stable lichen]

why did they make the codex upgrade so expensive this time lol

what happened to the underworld economy

[spare kite]

Do you have the boon index unlocked yet?

[slate trench]

wolf howl is one of the moon hexes, where you rise up and fall down

[tame cloud]

I don't know if I do, don't think i've used it

[spare kite]

The pre reqs stink yeah

[stable lichen]

like it used to be 50 gems

why tf do we need a golden apple now

has chronos just been printing money causing hyperinflation

[tame cloud]

Is this guaranteed crit thing an upgrade from the path of stars?

[slate trench]

yea

[spare kite]

Check the page for a god and see if the "offering" buttons show up

[tame cloud]

That sounds insane lmao

[willow phoenix]

I think it's something like pos sprint/slip/omega cast + splash fount/pos gain or something

[arctic cosmos]

I mean, technically he is lol

[slate trench]

it says something like "your next special or attack will be a critical hit"

[spare kite]

Wolf howl's crit makes me sad

[slate trench]

and if you have an omega that shoots a bunch of stuff at once they all crit

[tame cloud]

Damnn lmao

[spare kite]

Oh wait this is for pan right, then yeah is gaming

[tame cloud]

I usually never take hexes because I'm scarily unfamiliar with them and don't think they have any potential

[stable lichen]

what aspects are good with minimal upgrades

[willow phoenix]

Or the time slow hex can also give crit iirc?

[spare kite]

Yeah

[tame cloud]

can someone confirm or deny for me?

[stable lichen]

moon water is a safe one to have

[spare kite]

I'd say wolf howl is the besg w/o path of stars

[willow phoenix]

I've done a lot of runs where hex salvaged my bad boon rng. Hex can own so hard you don't even need to use anything else

[slate trench]

I used to hate hexes but in the last update before this they made them pretty good with the powerups

[spare kite]

Iframes on demand for 40 mp pretty good

[stable lichen]

i mean there's aspect of selene ig

[tame cloud]

Mmmh okay, so wolf howl for aspect of pan yes?

[slate trench]

the one that blasts the area for big dmg is also really good, can get up to a lot of damage and modifer where you are invulnerable until the blast lands and its like 5 seconds lol

[ember frigate]

what boons do you reccomend if you are spamming umbral flames special?

[spare kite]

With upgrades total eclipse is great if you have the mana to burn and get the impervious upgrade

[low bear]

there are other good choices, I really like sheep to be honest

[willow phoenix]

My laser hex melted chronos in 2 hex use so yeah it's good

[bleak night]

Hiya builds chat

[spare kite]

Apparently laser is really good if you commit to it

[stable lichen]

i feel like laser would be better if dash didnt cancel it

[willow phoenix]

Every single hex is good rn imo

[tame cloud]

Do you mind using your attack as well? Or do you want to stick to special completely

[low bear]

hey Mynt

[bleak night]

[spare kite]

I think the weakest is heal tbh, tho with strength kt has more appeal again

[low bear]

if you get the sheep and the upgrade that teleports all the sheep to your cast, it's really great on Pan lol

[spare kite]

Skyfall is pretty good but tied to selene coat so

[ember frigate]

i have aspect of moros unlocked but not upgraded, though melinoe aspect is lvl 4

[stable lichen]

i just use it and not invest in it

its more just "oh cool i can heal" just in the middle of a run

[low bear]

the weakest is heal because I have Vow of Scars 100% on lmao

[stable lichen]

lol fair enough

[slate trench]

i used laser only one time and I melted the flying miniboss from mt olympus, just stood there and held it and watched the damage number go up to like 10k on its armor lol

[bleak night]

I don't wanna play today, but I kinda wanna watch someone play. Can anyone stream their run? I wanna coach for some reason

[tame cloud]

I really recommend aspect of moros, crazy strong - here's a build I used:

• Hera / Hestia Gain
• Zeus Special
• Hestia attack
• Demeter cast
  Just make sure you have your omega special up and spam your attack for good damage

[willow phoenix]

You can get so much heal tho, there's like invulnerability upgrade too. I once had like 10+ heal for a boss fight and each gave invulnerability and omega cast

[spare kite]

I'm on the "don't need to heal if I just kill them" camp

[bleak night]

does Hestia gain still work? iirc it doesn't anymore with the Omegas exploding on your Specials like it used to

[spare kite]

At which sheep also helps

[low bear]

moon water is good for builds where you don't heavily use MP

[stable lichen]

yeah

[tame cloud]

Would you want to watch a newbie with 30 hours in a few hours

[cursive oyster]

the only part of that you need is the gain to do insane damage tbh

[bleak night]

idm yeah

[tame cloud]

No it doesnt work on omegas, but you can stop and attack a bunch to get it up again

[willow phoenix]

Most boring hex is phase shift because it's just free attack window

[spare kite]

Is still good enough for the few normals you get off before omega again

[bleak night]

Ah, that's fair

[low bear]

Moros definitely has some crazy deeps going on

[bleak night]

I find that aspect to be really mp hungry now

Born Gain is nice though

[spare kite]

Hecuba gaming

[low bear]

Fluid is unironically decent too

[bleak night]

ye Dog is really good for it

[low bear]

but yeah Born Gain with dog is all ya need

[tame cloud]

It is, but I didn't really have many issues running hestia gain if I take breaks using the attack omega

[bleak night]

fair point

I wanna play so badly rn but also I'm kinda addicted so I need to temper it a lil

[tame cloud]

I'll add you rq if that's ok? Then I can message you when im available

[willow phoenix]

Play another game 👍

[bleak night]

sent friendreq

[stable lichen]

play H1

[slate trench]

I feel like whenever I get Moros all built up and buffed I only get to attack for like a second before it phases the bosses lol even with maxed hp from fear, its like so op its not even fun, I wanna let it rip

[tame cloud]

minecraft modpacks or webfishing my beloved

[bleak night]

yeah Windblown is coming out tomorrow, I can play with Foolish so we both take breaks lol

[spare kite]

Play webfishing

[tame cloud]

Windblown is coming out in like less than an hour actually

[willow phoenix]

Oh that's the dead cells game right

[bleak night]

Oooh, fair.

[tame cloud]

I'm excited to play it

"Planned Release Date: 24 Oct, 2024
This game plans to unlock in approximately less than an hour"

[low bear]

damn I completely choked my 50F Than run, but I wasn't recording so I didn't feel too bad lol copium

[bleak night]

Yeah, it is. I'm going in blind and waiting for Foolish to be free before I play tho

[bleak night]

I unironically think Whirl Than 50F is good now

Like, EXTREMELY good

[willow phoenix]

I tried Curse of the Dead Gods and it was similar-ish to Hades. It lacked any real story though but fun gameplay.

[low bear]

oh what do you run on Whirl Than?

[stable lichen]

what recs do you have for just higher heat in general

[tame cloud]

Yesterday I beat Chronos with 10hp left after wasting 4 death defiances 💀 I'm so bad but still got lucky

[stable lichen]

i dont think imma push until 1.0 but still nice to have some knowledge

[low bear]

I had epic Limbs + Rapid which made my Than go brrrt fast

[bleak night]

3 Witch Marks https://drive.google.com/file/d/1170ruzwW9Vdzg-o2vePWl4hsUHpYx5_4/view

[spare kite]

Lmfao

Casually add heroic aphro + a pom

[bleak night]

what Fear are you tryna push

[low bear]

lmaoooo

[stable lichen]

uhhhh

havent decided yet, but in H1 i did push 40 for at least 1 aspect on each weapon (and 50 on zeus)

lets say 32 for now

[low bear]

Weed Than

[bleak night]

I can VC with ya if you wanna do a run, I can coach and stuff as you go

[low bear]

50 Heat is pretty high on H1

[bleak night]

I'm so addicted that I wanna watch someone play since I can't lmao

[stable lichen]

yeah i essentially just kept alternating between hestia and zeus until i got the boons i needed

[bleak night]

also in general, the winning combo on most things is Sworn Strike + Arctic Ring and Heph

[stable lichen]

would you say heat is easier or harder in H2

[bleak night]

I feel like it's different is all

[low bear]

the classic Triple Earth

[stable lichen]

fair enough

RIP underworld customs my beloved though

[willow phoenix]

Earth gods do be stronger

[bleak night]

H2 has an annoying learning curve in higher fears related to enemies having awful perks that may make your chosen aspect feel terrible

[stable lichen]

i'll probably only start pushing when the full game is here and EM is here for the free initial bosses

[bleak night]

Like, if you're playing full melee and the enemy has the Chronos orbs and timefields upon daeth thing

[low bear]

64 Heat is harder than 55 Fear at least I think

[spare kite]

They made bp somehow worse and I'm surprised

Some of these perks stink

[bleak night]

64 is harder than 55 rn for sure, 100%. I was able to do 3 55Fs this patch already, they made Athena too strong

[stable lichen]

yeah

[stable lichen]

at least +40% speed tokyo drift beyblade asterius isnt back ig

[low bear]

yeah 64H felt like it was a complete coincidence that it was even theoretically possible to win

[stable lichen]

unironically heroes were harder than dad in 50 heat for me

[stable lichen]

the universe just wanted to prove haelian wrong

[spare kite]

Both with 64h and 55f is clear they don't balance around max difficulty lol

[stable lichen]

i wonder what the EM bosses are gonna be like

[spare kite]

Athena just bullied 55f

[willow phoenix]

I want to see max fear prom

[bleak night]

Athena bullies 53F, you can win wihthout stalwart really easily

[sudden inlet]

I will admit I’m a bit frustrated with trying to figure out Arcana builds as a general thing now with how they changed the Omega time slow to be a keepsake

[stable lichen]

i wish we had divine strike so we could just slap it on thanatos and profit

[bleak night]

for 55 it's still Stalwart and mercy of rng, for the most part

[low bear]

I feel like they were more conscious of balancing max fear here though

[bleak night]

What aspects do you usually play ?

[willow phoenix]

Just pick things you like. I never put much thought into mine lol. Comfort is best

[stable lichen]

i should probably actually be getting around to upgrading my arcana before i push heat

i did only get the game last week after all

[bleak night]

atm seems like only 3 people are capable of breaking through max fear is all, so idt they're balancing for that

[low bear]

true but then I don't think they would have removed suffering

[magic moss]

honestly 55 is just to easy for someone like me mhm thats why i dont bother trying

[bleak night]

do it on staff pls

[low bear]

have all 55s been on Axe?

[magic moss]

after i recreate momus

[spare kite]

I did 55f yesterday but my dog destroyed the recording, yeah

[bleak night]

2 Axes, Mel Coat and Medea

[low bear]

Mel Coat damn

[spare kite]

As long as foolish is here every record will have medea

[bleak night]

Good amount of 51+ fear clears rn

@low bear do 53, I'll teach you

[low bear]

I haven't even cleared 50 on other weapons besides Moros yet but yeah I'll hit you up when I do attempt it

[bleak night]

I can probs realistically do 55 on Mel Skull and Mel/Arty Blades as well, I should probs try for those in a week or so

[low bear]

and also I hate gaming on mouse I'm a controller potato

after I bang out a couple 50s then I'll consider going higher

I'm close to achieving 45 all aspects only got the Coats left lol

[silent crow]

im kinda feeling like ill take a more gradual approach to fear this patch

[bleak night]

Coats are fun at least, I did my first set of 50s on attack spam, did the 55 spamming missiles

[silent crow]

since i dont have as much time to play

[bleak night]

That's fair yeah

[low bear]

yeah Coat is fun though I still don't jive with Nyx yet

[silent crow]

ill move up in increments of 4

[rugged moon]

I will probably do 53 after i get 18/18

[low bear]

18/18?

[silent crow]

rn im still struggling with 32f surface but 32f uw feels free ngl

[low bear]

Surface is just rough

the real question is 55F Surface when

[bleak night]

I can't even do 51 surface

[silent crow]

my old personal best for uw was 47 but idk if i can do that with the new vow layoit

[bleak night]

probs a learning curve in dealing with Fangs, but the lack of Suffering might be a bit easier for you to deal with

[low bear]

I just realized Surface has more chambers in 3 biomes than UW has in 4 lol

[silent crow]

im scared of the shadow midbosses too

[bleak night]

Yes, but also no

You know how you return to Ephyra after every room ? That counts as +1 location

[low bear]

oh wait really

[bleak night]

yeah, try it

[low bear]

I didn't know that interesting

[compact nest]

Shadow midbosses aint nothing, except the dragon. Fear the dragon.

[silent crow]

buffed shadow spiller spqwns banshees which seems so bad

[bleak night]

Satyr Crossbowman is cancer

[low bear]

still Olympus feels sooo long

[compact nest]

idk i don't think its that bad but i play in the 20-30 fear. I just run top right and do the eris strat of hugging a pillar and hitting them through it

[low bear]

Circe's turn off vow is so bad for high fear runs lol

[silent crow]

is zeus hard meta rn?

[low bear]

zeus hard meta?

[silent crow]

he seems to always perform every run i take him

[bleak night]

can't do that with the timer is all

[compact nest]

Ah right 5 minute timer

[silent crow]

i mean like. top tier

[compact nest]

feelsbadman this is why i run 7 hehe

[low bear]

Zeus is pretty good when Blitz works and Static Shock is always great, but no I don't think he's the best

[bleak night]

if I don't have 7 minutes to deal with Olympus + Prometheus, the run is just dead. I need to save 2 mins total doing Ephyra + Thessaly

[low bear]

storm ring good too

[compact nest]

Storm ring is good on paper but you give up the opportunity cost of demeter ring

[stable lichen]

i havent actually experimented with blitz much in general is it a decent source of damage

i just feel like it's kind of a "rich get richer" type of thing since you actually have to deal decent damage to abuse it in the first place

[low bear]

Triple Earth is probably still my top 3 and they're kinda interchangable, then Zeus, then Hestia, then Poonseidon

[bleak night]

the speedrunners use a lot of Blitz

[compact nest]

I once saw a like level 50 blitz pom that did 1300 damage or something and i aspire to get that one day

[stable lichen]

that would make sense since they've got a ton of damage to make it work

[ember frigate]

how does power work and is it worth picking them up (example: your specials gain +20 power but you prime 40 magic)

[bleak night]

Zeus attack with the Zeus-Aphro duo is basically Merciful End from what I hear

[low bear]

pos's secondary boons are kinda eh

[bleak night]

hit-dash-hit-dash

[stable lichen]

oh yeah ive seen that

with one dash it feels like wish.com ME

[compact nest]

power is base damage, that then scales off any % damage you have

So lets say your base damage is 50, with a 100% attack boon. You now have 70 base damage and do 140 damage instead of just 100.

[bleak night]

atleast it is for Coat, which seems great

[low bear]

I wish we had blitz stacking like doom

[stable lichen]

but since ME is ME its still good

[low bear]

though I guess blitz is already really good as it is

[bleak night]

it's what peeps are using to get 6 min coat runs I think, it's probably really good

[stable lichen]

i still need to experiment with the coat

i only got the game during the olympian update and still dont have enough for nyx

[bleak night]

ooh welcome to the game

[stable lichen]

ive just been waiting for it to finally come out on mac lol

i was literally just doing H1 over and over again waiting for it at the point where i now have ~1200 runs lmao

[bleak night]

Best you made the jump to playtest then

[stable lichen]

(yes im playing on a trackpad)

[bleak night]

You liking it so far, at the very least ?

[bleak night]

get a mouse or a gamepad pls lol.

[lavish hare]

well, just learned smth about the circe keepsake

[stable lichen]

definitely lol

it's a hades sequel made by the same people it would be quite hard to make me dislike it

[stable lichen]

im just using a keyboard

[lavish hare]

it can activate any arcana you have, as if it were at the rarity the keepsake specifies

[compact nest]

Yeah the circe keepsake sucks. I should feedback it

[lavish hare]

i thought it'd activate any spare arcana of that rank

[stable lichen]

i love how they use orange sheep as placeholders for circe's pigs lol

[lavish hare]

but meh, i get it, and the difference will be academic once i cap it out

[compact nest]

Nope, otherwise the level 4 one would do nothing

[stoic badger]

The new Hades Boons with the Urns feels so cool, nice throwback

[lavish hare]

it doesn't get a level 4?

[magic moss]

imo rn for overall use case scenarios
S: Hera, Dem, Zeus
A: Heph, Hestia
B: Aphro, Apollo,
C: Poseidon

[stable lichen]

did they keep stygian shards in the game or nah

[compact nest]

All non boon gods give level 4 keepsake with the duo boon,

[stable lichen]

if they did they should make em buff the hades jars

[compact nest]

Circes level 4 keepsake activates a level 4 arcana

[lavish hare]

ah, neat

did not know that! thought it'd do nothing if you had a level 3 keepsake on

[stoic badger]

What is that?

[stable lichen]

the H1 well item that increases trap damage

since hades jars counted as traps in H1 it would be cool if they also counted in H2

[lavish hare]

the game doesn't really have as many damaging traps

or at least they're not a universal thing

[stable lichen]

fair point

im not complaining ig

also random thing but i really hate how they force us to do trials sometimes especially in thessaly

[stoic badger]

Just checked and there doesn’t seem to be

[stable lichen]

damn

[compact nest]

Yeah like off the top of my head erebus/mf doesn't have traps. Ephyria doesn't unless you count the barrels. Thessaly does with the oil and Olympus doesn't afaik?

[lavish hare]

what happens if you reroll a trial?

[compact nest]

Regular boon

[bleak night]

that's a thing ?

[stable lichen]

i guess you can do that but still

you have to waste a reroll whereas in H1 there will always be an alternative when a trial is offered

[lavish hare]

fair

still, we get 10 rerolls, which we can share between FA-type and FP-type

[stable lichen]

wait they go up to 10?

[stoic badger]

With all the cards for it

[stable lichen]

i just have 5 since i havent fully unlocked everything lol

stardust takes forever

[compact nest]

3 + 3 + 4 if you activate boatman to get the bottom left corner

[lavish hare]

yeah, moon dust is really the mid/late bottleneck, it and nightmares

[stable lichen]

is the best way just charon

[lavish hare]

yeah, i put my loyalty cards into moon dust

still takes 80 whiles per order though

so i also funnel all my spare bones that way

[stable lichen]

idk im just using it for nightmares for now

[compact nest]

The cauldren is the "best" way assuming you can afford the resource cost

[stable lichen]

i need more fabric

[compact nest]

iirc its like shadow + some other trash resources = 5 moondust

[lavish hare]

yeah but shadows also need a craft :(

[stable lichen]

or chaos dust i think

[lavish hare]

i guess once your pets are capped out you can sink stardust into it

[stable lichen]

still waiting for the pet upgrade incantation

[lavish hare]

you need to have all the pets i think

[stable lichen]

just discovered where the cat was a couple runs ago since i assumed it was also in erebus

alright i guess i'll need the dog then

[lavish hare]

idr if i got it before i met the dog

[sudden inlet]

Depends on mood but right now Aspect of Nyx and Mel staff

[hexed frost]

Yeah I'm never touching skull again. Veri anti how I want to play

[stable lichen]

i can see why skulls can be fun but lets just say i always stick with stygian soul in H1 for a reason

[bleak night]

Which skull are we talking about

[hexed frost]

Used Medea

On the plus side maxed out my fav weapon and 1 lvl away from the my 2nd

[lavish hare]

yeah, medea skull is the best way to play skull IMO

if you treat it like Beowulf-ish, it clicks

[hexed frost]

I want to build Artemis blades solely to power up omega normal attacks. I think Poseidon is a good boon giving he gives that magik restore. Is there any other utility god I should focus on? Planning on starting with aphro on strike and maybe Pos on special?

[willow phoenix]

Hestia on attack can be fun. For utility demeter and Hephaestus are the best.

[hexed frost]

Yeah demeter on cast is my go to. For hammers I think explosive ambush and skulking slice will be the best

About 650% if I hit a backstab

[vale gate]

yo whats the moros meta gain

i tried hestia but it doesnt seem to infinitely sustain it anymore ??

[lime eagle]

Her gain doesn't work off of Oattacks anymore. Hera's probably the best gain for it atm

[vale gate]

despair

why cant we have good things

[magic moss]

hecuba + born gain

[vale gate]

WHAT is hecuba

[magic moss]

some % dmg boon is best, high rarity apollo is probably the best outside of high fear, go dem for weed killer

[lime eagle]

New dog companion

[vale gate]

oh right it never shows up

[lime eagle]

If I want to submit runs to the high fear sheet, where should I send stuff?

[magic moss]

just send a victory screen anywhere and just ping me

i do everything manually, theres nothing the runner needs to do outside of providing the victory screen

and ig any vods and arcana pages they used if they run judgement/void

[lime eagle]

Ah okay, cool thanks

[lean goblet]

question

i got the spell for it, how does one get a familar?

[silent crow]

hestia a?

i guess scorch is the best reliable flat dmg

idk im a big fan of apollos sprint rn

[magic moss]

smolder ring, freezer burn end game, warmth gain is great for a lot of aspects, scorch is just good in general, etc

[magic moss]

apollo sprint is good but hes super niche, hence B

[silent crow]

apollo sprint & back burner is very comfy for me

ill js have to see whatll happen when i get to 45+

[willow phoenix]

Wait since when is Eris bonus damage temporary what

TIL

[steel sequoia]

quick question, the dora quest has an ending rn?

[compact nest]

no

There is an incantation you can unlock but cannot complete it similar to dissolution of time

[steel sequoia]

thats what i thought ty

[willow phoenix]

So you really can just wait eris around. This feels obvious in hindsight as it's the aspect of eris from the first game but I still feel like it should be better communicated.

[spare kite]

#h2-builds-and-combat message
I always believed it in my heart that I wasn't wrong

[willow phoenix]

I've always assumed she just gains damage every phase lol

[warped egret]

Cant believe supergiant Would nerf my foolproof strategy of summoning immortal automatons who last til the end of an encounter then running away amd hiding

[willow phoenix]

The summon enemy hex felt strong when I tried it with with selene keepsake. There's some upgrade for perma summon, bonus attack speed and they just clear any room if you get a good summon

They can distract you from fishing though. They keep attacking even after the encounter ends for some reason

[warped egret]

Yeah it made olympus genuinely that much easier, i was lucky and went in with no selene but 2 sets of upgrades + the +2 bonus

[willow phoenix]

I had that bomber satyr shake the map so much during fishing

[warped egret]

I also did it when i had the tarot for autocharge, so summoning the wrong enemy was a trivial mistake

[willow phoenix]

Yea the arcana for hex is nice

[hexed frost]

Apollo on attack over Aphrodite?

[magic moss]

that also works i just forgot aphro existed for a second there lmfao

[hexed frost]

💀

[final light]

guys, does vow of denial help get like legendary boons?

i simply cannot find hermes legendary EVER

[compact nest]

not since like patch 1

[final light]

darn

[compact nest]

Legendary boons are base 10% and only increase in tartarus miniboss to like 15/20% i forget which

[final light]

is there any way to get his legendary more easily

[compact nest]

Buy "increase boon rarity" from charon and path to hermes but thats it

[spare kite]

Chaos's favor also boosts legendary

[willow phoenix]

I'm 50% sure every god has a scripted legendary dialogue where you just get their legendary if you meet the requirements. Forgot if hermes had one or not.

[rain oxide]

how do u play médée aspect ? it give % damage so i guess we need flat damage, dunno how to build this

or you dont care and just nuke with aphro ?

[compact nest]

nuke with aphro + zeus/hitch basically yeah

[rain oxide]

ok it worked pretty fine, chronos look so easy after doing fear surface run

[hexed frost]

Hestia also has a restore magic when you deal damage so I might not really need poseidon

[rain oxide]

btw my favorite torch aspect is melinoe to play as a beyblade, how do u play it ? i like doing poseidon spécial so you can run through everyone and push

[hexed frost]

Smh nvm I have to choose between it and glamour gain. No thanks

[left dagger]

How much magick does the vow of hubris prime for duo boons?

(found the answer in older chatter, it's 40)

[rugged moon]

er, i think its now 24

40 was when it was 10 per rarity

[solid copper]

Does anyone know

1. If air quality affects scorch damage since it now ticks so quickly?
2. If double strike and sea storm can affect ?lightning from duo boons like hail storm and natural disaster or do they affect only their prerequisite boons?

[hexed frost]

Just learnt I can evade just before the final chop with sister blades. Game changer

[left dagger]

Ooh, that would make sense

[surreal hazel]

Yes, scorch ticks 6 tinrs a sec

And double strike is any direct lightning strike

So basically not blitz or chain lightning

[solid copper]

I don't think it would be offered just by having blitz if it didn't affect blitz

[surreal hazel]

Hrm. Maybe actually

[solid copper]

plus, when I had the hestia zeus duo and double strike I'm pretty sure I saw 120 scorch from 1 proc so I'm convinced it works with blitz. Duos though is another question

[surreal hazel]

Double strike has definitely affected hailstorm

[solid copper]

I just wish there was indication about what ''lightning'' means ingame so these things would be clear and we could make choices 100% informed

[surreal hazel]

Harder to tell with glorious disaster since that whole move is visual soup

[rugged moon]

Blitz says it does lightning

I think it is defined

[surreal hazel]

Chain lightning doesn't though

[spare kite]

Wait blitz doesn't work?

[rugged moon]

It does

[spare kite]

Aight makes sense

[dusty sapphire]

I've been using the Death Arcana card with Aspect of Selene in order to unlock Moon, but I don't know whether it's really worth it. I'm not sure if using the omega attack with Selene is ever really good especially now with the omega special buffs

[rugged moon]

Omega cast

[dusty sapphire]

omega cast is neither here nor there, it's still pretty close range which isn't ideal

but it's worth a shot I guess. But if I'm doing that then I might as well use the cheaper Night instead

[rugged moon]

it... is still really really good? esp with death

and you should be dropping cast anyway for stuff like furies

[dusty sapphire]

yeah but that's reg cast

much lower risk than omega

[rugged moon]

you can move while charging the omega

[solid copper]

I've recently come to use omega cast a lot more and I found it helps with aoe a ton, especially early game. This let me experiment with the death arcana and the one that gives it 100 fllat dmg and new builds came out of it that included omega cast that worked surprisingly well in ¬ 30 fear

[surreal hazel]

Only 100 more

But it's +2/3 bonus damage

(Also adds 50 power to gyser spout last time I checked)

[solid copper]

I wish I could believe you but I don't mostly because it says power which only basic moves have (not boon effects) but what I wish for even more is a way to test these things easilly

[marsh flax]

anyone have a good build for a first clear of the underworld im prety sure i have all god keepsakes except athena and dyo and have no aspects yet

[sudden inlet]

Depends on your Grasp limit and what weapons/Arcana you have unlocked?

Otherwise just use the staff and have Poseidon on special and spam it for probably the safest playstyle since you also have the line nuke on O attack

[marsh flax]

ill send you a screen shot i have 24 grasp

[marsh flax]

it is not leting me send screen shot i have all except the ones that need things from olympus

[solid copper]

demeter cast, and zeus + hestia on attack and special depending on which hits the most and rarities will carry u far

[marsh flax]

on what weapon

[solid copper]

Almost anything

but depending on which one put hestia on what attack/specual has lots of hits and zeus on the opposite

[marsh flax]

alr then ill use the daggers since i find them fun

[solid copper]

All 3 duos are unlocked immediately too by these 3 things

and all 3 are powerful

Yea for daggers since both attack and special hit a lot of times where u put hestia and where zeus is pretty interchangable. Just go for the better rarities

[marsh flax]

any particular hames i should keep an eye out for

[solid copper]

If hermes is what you mean greater evasion and nitro boost are great defensive options always. If you're new they're bound to help u get farther into a run and allow u to learn more about how foes work so that u can learn how to dodge them

[marsh flax]

i meant hamers

sorry for my spelling im very tierd

[solid copper]

The 2 that give power are always nice. Beyond that try to see what works for you

[marsh flax]

sounds good

just unlocked aspects any particular aspect in case this run i don uscced

[tough vapor]

is uncanny fortitude retroactive wwith any max magic bonuses you get?

[rugged moon]

Yes

It gives you hp based on your current max, then gives more each time it goes up

[rugged moon]

Whats your favorite weapon?

[low bear]

Lmao I didnt know vengeance worked on jetty's ni damage blasts

She got ROCKED by divine vengeance

[silent frigate]

also works on any enemy that sucks you in

[uncut ginkgo]

Is xinth as bonkers as it feels?

[cursive heron]

No :3

[tough vapor]

doing a run where I try to get max hp and I got screwed on no water fitness, had plentiful forage from the start, a solid uncanny fortitude and a decent life affirmation, but missed the crucial piece of the puzzle that is water fitness, if I got iut that wouldve been 135 health unless life affirmation worked on it then even more

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/942863592292773949/1299162767827271803/image.png?ex=671c331d&is=671ae19d&hm=ccc38d7a461fdc342df2ec223c259ca97581f1157e6733e807740d9bac7f4c15&

[compact nest]

debatable. I believe its above average and in the good territory, but its far from being top tier OP

[cursive heron]

But I'm glad you're having fun with it. That's more important

Feels pretty middle of the pack to me, maybe under. I don't think there's a conversation to be had for broken though.

[tough vapor]

got hit with the insta kill by chronos and tanked it thanks to strength card lmao, mid fight rn, just paused, lets hope I can finish with 14 health lmao

I got hit sadly

time to try again lol, and hope I get that wwater fitness

[jovial cove]

does anyone know if familiars are affecte by time slow?

[sudden inlet]

Being given bounties for Prometheus with the Black Cloak istg feels like the game just screwing with me lol, like that fight is not friendly towards melee builds at all

[tough vapor]

@bleak night your a really high skill player, would I be right that for a max HP run the 4 gods you want in your pool would be demeter, poseidon, aphro, and hephaestus? demeter for some water boons and plentiful forage, poseidon for water fitness, aphro for life affirmation and healthy appitite duo boon, and hephaestus for uncanny fortitude? and then hecuba for your familiar for more dig spots and shovel for t he same. and aspect of melinoe axe cause its the only aspect that increases your max health

[magic moss]

i mean sounds solid, i dont see why you would want Mynt's opinion on this

[tough vapor]

their the only person's name I remember that is particularly interested in higher skill stuff, idk

[sweet crag]

anyone have any crazy builds with the sister blades that they're willing to share??

[magic moss]

i mean yeah but max hp builds really isnt a thing that Mynt typically goes for, at 50F you rarely can get a targetted build outside of maybe 6 total boons

[tough vapor]

was mostly inspired by the meme runs haelien did in hades 1 about like, max pom lvl max gold max health that kinda thing

[silent crow]

if ur gonna do a meme run u should optimize it urself

thats most of the fun in doing one in the first place

[hidden sundial]

does Old Herbal Remedy (healing effects are more powerful, heal 50% now) from Circe affect Moon Water heals?

to answer my own question, yes, yes it does

[summer seal]

Do chaos trials use predetermined arcana loadouts? I can't recall

[hidden sundial]

yes

[past salmon]

Imo just RNG better

[low bear]

finally 50F Than done

[tribal wedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/120889695658967041/1299191391255265331/image.png?ex=671c4dc5&is=671afc45&hm=96a70f642ae60ae81185bd327c73c088cbc02f1076fead22904b9b94fbecd127& lvl 12......also i just found out that zora's charge attack is rlly good

[meager bramble]

How do I build properly for King's Ransom? Which Zeus boons do I really want, and which Hera boons do I want to take to throw away?

And if there's any weapons it's particularly good for lemme know 😄

[low bear]

I'm not sure how good the scaling even is but get storm ring and a blitz effect I guess

and which Hera boons don't really matter since you're throwing them away no?

[uncut ginkgo]

Anyone have a spreadsheet/resource for good builds for each weapon?

[meager bramble]

Oh I mean, like, what are some example boons I probably won't care about that much, so I can more easily throw them

[low bear]

unfortunately no, still in EA and not a lot of guides. But for most weapons: Hera Attack Dem Cast

[uncut ginkgo]

Do you guys end up trinket'ing for hera floor 1?

[past salmon]

alot of Zeus scaling is very good
Static shock goes crazy

[meager bramble]

I'd think, probably take one Hitch effect and then a bunch of the Hitch upgrades?

[low bear]

oh yeah static shock too

[low bear]

I guess just as long as it doesn't take the slot of the core boons you want on Zeus. Blitz, Storm Ring, Static, and Double Strike you'd probably want to get before clicking King's Ransom

and then just get as many Hera boons as possible

it's a memey build but it's fun to go for

[meager bramble]

I also feel like I don't really get Blitz, only just started taking it seriously on a few runs. My brain wants it on slow attacks like Doom - but then it's activated by damage, so does it make more sense on fast attacks to just like self-repeat?

[low bear]

and then for more memes get Echo's double pom

[past salmon]

Ideally you dont want the move with blitz on it to be the main proccer of blitz
Blitz works best either on secondary or on primary with something like storm ring proccing it or like romantic spark etc

[low bear]

Athena really is OP but I kinda like how it saves even bad Erebus runs for me at 50F

I can just tank through the timer as long as I barely make it out alive I can get DD refills in Oceanus lol

[marsh flax]

daggers by far

[rugged moon]

Artemis is a great option to unlock then

[low bear]

I might be a Than Axe enjoyer now

[low bear]

@magic moss 50 Fear Than run here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dALjcVRtZRo&ab_channel=jdeeyu(TekBurstStream)

[tall notch]

back in like patch 1 Mynt was the person coming up with whacky meme builds, together with East

Pink Aura was Mynt's doing

[timber pawn]

Honestly I think my fastest coat run was a kings ransom run, it's a pretty solid option for damage in Tartarus

[warped egret]

whats pink aura?

[low bear]

Mel torch, aphro special, heartthrob and apollo/aphro duo for 3x hearts

[drowsy kraken]

Does athena still not show up in mourning fields

[drowsy kraken]

You could even add heph sprint and then love handles to be super extra

[round quartz]

Does getting Hermes legendary require having used a death defiance?
Because I'm like 120 hours in and I haven't gotten it once
And I pick Hermes fairly often

[drowsy kraken]

Idt so its just very very rare

[rugged moon]

you typically only get like 2 hermes a run, and can only get legend on the second one cause prereqs. when legendaries are like 1/20 i think?

[low bear]

no I believe not

I had a run where I had 6 DDs and I never used any of them lol

that was pre Athena too

[willow phoenix]

I got it without having used any, it just randomly popped up

I think I've only got 2 hermes legendary in 150 hours

Both was from the tartarus charon shop iirc

And I never got to use any of them lol

[signal snow]

How do you activate the perks on the fated list
Like strength bruiser speedster etc etc

[drowsy kraken]

Its from the vow of fangs from the oath of the unseen, you just have to do a bunch of runs and experience all the buffs the enemies have. It'll take a while tho, there's a lot and it is ofc random

[west summit]

I’m not sure who may want it but I think

Amulet
Stalwart
Stand
(Last)
Gasp

Could be a viable underworld strat for mid fear like 32

[magic moss]

please elaborate

[west summit]

Amulet in erebus into dying every room to build for Last Gasp damage%

[magic moss]

whats amulet, athena keepsake?

[west summit]

Yea

I think they made the change to Last Gasp increasing with every death defy used across the run instead of just 1 specifically for this. That’s why they adjusted it to 8% per instead of 10%

[bleak night]

yeah someone posted a 200% bonus from that thing lmao

[west summit]

Twas me

[bleak night]

Oh, whoops. Good hustle

[magic moss]

im ngl i could see it being useful for high fear speedrunning since you can just go ham

[west summit]

My 200% run was with Momus and I had Arcana to boost Omega Cast damage to 400 base, multiply that with momus and +200% made it the highest on damage chart despite using Demeter cast

I don’t have experience with speedrunning yet so I’m not sure. Taking room skips does mean missing out on a bit of damage bonus.

Stalwart Stand does eat 150 magik at common so if anyone starts by leveling it, non magik focus aspects are probably better, though hecuba’s bonus can mitigate.

Stalwart Stand can also be sold at pool of purging to unprime the 150.

Once Amulet is upgraded, magik builds are fine with Hecuba if vows don’t eat too much

[crimson lichen]

are blades only good for haha pan boss oneshot and meh for anything else or am i missing something? Only weapon i really struggle with

[surreal hazel]

Loads

Pan is probably the weakest tbh

Flame or wave strike are great

Wicked onslaught is disgustingly good

And flick knives with the new base special is lol

Weirdly powerful dash strike generally

[magic moss]

this is an incredibly high fear pilled take btw, pan poseidon still deletes low fear

[surreal hazel]

Wave flourish deletes low fear for all of them

All blade aspects, that is

Last patch kimda nerfed pan though, omega specials pierce enemies.... except pan homing daggers

Sworn flourish daggers are totally legit now

[crimson lichen]

Thanks for the input will give it another try and focus on something else. The room to room combat with pan just felt meh.

[dusty dust]

so when you level up aspect of nyx, does it affect the nigthspawn explosion damage or the damage buff during nightspawn?

[frigid lance]

I believe it only affects the damage of the nightspawn projectiles (they start at 10% of the original hit, then upgrade to 50%)

[dusty dust]

i see, so the buff itself then

[willow kraken]

hey, a few runs ago I got a (duo?) boon that made every hit do a minimum of 30 damage, but now I'm looking for it on the wiki and I can't find anything like that. Anyone know what boon that was?

[tranquil furnace]

Air Quality I think. It’s the infusion boom for Zues. Requires 5 air elements to be active, but I can’t remember how many required for it to appear.

[round quartz]

I almost beat Chronos at 32 fear
And then he used the full screen attack and the safe zone was at the other side of the arena of where I was and instantly killed me

[frigid lance]

That's rough. Be assured that there is always time to run over before the attack fires, but it definitely isn't always that easy

[round quartz]

It was literally the furthest point away it could possibly be
And 40% faster speed for enemies made it literally impossible to make it to

I had also dashed away from the safe point right before he did the attack
So it was just really unlucky

[glossy rivet]

does apollo legendary brick torch omega attack? every torchball costs 20+ magick?

[round quartz]

This is why you use aspect of Eos :)

[glossy rivet]

do you get two daybreakers

[willow phoenix]

If you have enough magick it can still work

[willow kraken]

oh it's an infusion boon, thanks

[low bear]

it kinda does unless you have enough magic somehow lol

[willow phoenix]

Dya think every god will get their own omega cast on the next major update? Since the next major update specifies more boons.

[hasty ginkgo]

which boon is best for attack damage feel like im tickling ppl at Olympus

[frigid lance]

well, it depends on what weapon you're using, but usually the strongest boon for attack damage specifically is hera, but aphrodite can be strong on certain weapons.

[compact nest]

probably every god gets their own throw/omega cast tier 2 boon yeah

[hasty ginkgo]

whats good for the black coat i like using my fists

[frigid lance]

I've had success using the nyx aspect with hera's attack; the wide range it gives you means you can hit pretty much everybody with your attacks which makes hera pull ahead in terms of damage. melinoe aspect benefits from poseidon a lot as well, since it attacks so fast, especially with the dash strike which hits three times making three poseidon waves. if you're playing selene aspect you'll want to focus on doing big hits with your omega attack so aphrodite's attack boon will probably be the best since you can afford to get close to enemies. hope you succeed!

@hasty ginkgo

[hasty ginkgo]

oooooh nice thank you very much

[sudden inlet]

All I know is that right now for Black Coat, Nyx aspect is probably the most fun personally even with its absurdly high magicka costs. You can get a ton of AoE like Hestia and Hera off with its passive activated and it’s absurd.

Nyx aspect top three attack Gods would probably be Hestia, Hera, Zeus while Mel aspect benefits from Apollo and Poseidon heavily

[tall notch]

Until I get a gain I've been playing Nyx kinda like Mel coat except I get a few big nukes per room

Coat does good damage at a baseline and you'll have a really easy time proccing huntress early game

[sudden inlet]

Tried out Selene aspect and it just wasn’t it since the hex is kind of poorly explained

[tall notch]

The hex is pretty strong and gets strong fast if you start moonbeam, but I'm not that big on coat's omegas so I don't perform super well with it

[compact nest]

selene hex is bad unless you start with the selene keepsake to upgrade it with 8 free points, which is massive

also you need level 5 cause lesser levels are unplayable due to reducing the mana cost

[dapper prairie]

Idk if I'm in the right channel for this question but, does anyone have a tip to help proc darkness ? 'cause I crafted Thanatos axe aspect and since then I absolutely never encounter any other material of this kind in chaos zone soooo I'm like wtf ? Did I miss something ? Is it 100% rng ?

[tall notch]

I believe it is just rng

[sudden inlet]

Darkness is RNG, and I don’t ever recall using Selene’s keepsake because I generally avoid her hexes lol

[compact nest]

its 100% a RNG spawn, but the olympus update increased the chances a LOT, to the point i even see 2 darkness/flowers per room now in rooms.

[dapper prairie]

ooooh so glad to hear that, bc I was wondering if I will ever unlock the 30 points for the cards thing one day lmao

Thanks for yout responses yall! Have a nice day

[sour scroll]

yeow quick qns how do you tell how many death defiances you have left?

issit the greyed out cracked heart represents ur on the last dd?

[compact nest]

cracked out grey heart means a reduced value DD

[sudden inlet]

Cracked heart is Toula, otherwise you’ll see the empty circle and there’s the one to the right that says how many you’ve used

[compact nest]

You can only get that from toula/echo refilling your DD encounter. I believe athena gives you a unique icon

[sour scroll]

ohh so whats the red blood one?

[compact nest]

The default one, heals you for 40%

The one that looks like an eye IIRC is a boon one like hermes/chaos/i believe athena

[sour scroll]

oooo ok thank you guys!!

[past salmon]

Athena isn't an eye

[steep jungle]

Any advices for surface route? Weapon and keepsake combinations, boons.. I couldn't reach to Prometheus yet.

[hard turret]

aspect of Nyx is absurd

i thought Selene did too much damage but damn

[compact nest]

hestia sprint invalidates eris and some of proms moves so hestia is a good pickup as a 3rd/4th god even if you start off with her juts not primary(unless you use daggers)

[steep jungle]

My favourite is lim and oros with pan aspect and usually go with demeter. Freeze is kind of useful when combined with the cast but I get kick and eventually die at some point.

[sly plaza]

The cloak in general absolutely cooks

[hard turret]

the cloak is ridiculous, to the point i think a nerf is in order

[sly plaza]

For sure needs some tuning

[hard turret]

my only nitpick so far is how Nyx's aspect lacks some visual oomph for it's trigger

[cursive oyster]

i think coat is decently balanced

[compact nest]

cloak needs no nerfs its nowhere close to the top tier weapons that actually need nerfs/adjustments

At most its above average which is good cause the average is brought down by the trash like 2/3 of the staffs and 2/3 of the torches

[hard turret]

am i overreacting because it's new?

the damage i'm dishing out on runs that usually were hard for me on high fear is unholy

[cursive oyster]

we’re overreacting because we’re used to patch 5 where everything was bad

[compact nest]

you are overreacting cause its an actually well designed weapon out of the box. Its kit is slightly overloaded but that doesn't mean OP

[amber dagger]

Same

[sly plaza]

Also fair ngl

[hard turret]

i guess

maybe it's just a weapon that i'm better at handling than some of the others

[compact nest]

Like staff has bonk, tissue paper special attack, bad special omega and ok special attack. The end.

Cape has unique animations, axes old block, lock on targeting, aoe damage and decent aoe

Its 100% overloaded but not OP, just strong

[willow phoenix]

Circe is still trash though

[hard turret]

that may be it actually, it has too much good stuff

[sly plaza]

In conclusion: Staff needs some love

[cursive oyster]

base staff special is actually good this patch

[amber dagger]

I want pershfone to come back I have no idea on the spelling lol

[hard turret]

also Hephaestus cloak run is way too much fun for me

[compact nest]

yeah i did a fresh file run just for practice and i was surprised at the base special post buff but i still don't see myself using it

was at least usable like how sister blades special are usable to poke low hp people far away though

[cursive oyster]

put blitz on it and now you can press a button to do 200 free damage to a crowd

[sly plaza]

I’m curious though if staff stays as omega move oriented as it does now so far as aspect effects

[willow phoenix]

I hope they change some of the aspects for more variations

[cursive oyster]

new sorc also makes staff omegas much better

[hard turret]

glad i'm not the only one who doesnt like Circe, it's so underwhelming

[sly plaza]

Blitz is so fun

[willow phoenix]

I think staff just needs better omega damage and better omega attack aoe + tracking for it to be good

[hard turret]

i think Circe is downright boring, that's my issue with the whole weapon tree

[willow phoenix]

I can omega attack like 5 times in row and still feel like I deal less damage than a single skull magazine.

[cursive oyster]

mel staff and momus are both good

[hard turret]

even the Skull is more fun to use and i find it awkward as hell

[willow phoenix]

Yea but my gameplay with them is a bit too samey. Just spam omega

[compact nest]

I recently did a omega run thinking it was an amazing run and a perfect showcase of circe, just for my regular attack to do 50k more and i was like oh...

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1233146305308528650/1299117654161752094/20241024_170905.jpg?ex=671cb1d9&is=671b6059&hm=3a9b901fbb57ca4d47bd8f01d7e15133675035d011349a3b87b5fd677cfccd26&=&format=webp&width=796&height=597

scuffed image cause steam deck but ye

[hard turret]

it's kind of funny how much more fun i had with the weapons in H1

besides the Cloak

[cursive oyster]

i think circe just needs a total rework

[hard turret]

actually i lie, the axe is fun too, especailly Than

[sly plaza]

The cloak is fun for sure. I also enjoy the implication that Nyx used to kick ass in a mech suit

[willow phoenix]

Maybe they can incorporate the whole morph hex into circe, since that's her whole schtick after all

[compact nest]

hard disagree, the weapons in h1 were boring. I only really 'liked' arthur sword, 2 fist aspects and occasionally spear or bow but only 1 specific aspect.

In h2 i can use literally every weapon except torches which is so much better

[hard turret]

damn, complete opposite to me

[willow phoenix]

Same, I find H2 combat much better and much more engaging

[hard turret]

i vibed with every H1 weapon besides the shield

and never found the H2 ones as engaging

like, the combat has more aspects to it sure, but it never clicked the same to me

[compact nest]

hestia rail put me off similar to a way the black coat did on first impression but the gameplay made up for it. Hestia rail was boring and didnt fit aesthetically

Sword gameplay devolved into dash strike which oh my god i hate that playstyle. Spear i loved just chucking it at people or stabbing but only really the basic zag aspect. I disliked shields passive playstyle of sit behind shield immune while charging to deal damage, felt too cheesy though i liked zeus special.

Bow was similar to hestia where it felt weird to use but chiron was nice.

Fists are my beloved weapon and i will die defending them ,except gilg- gilg can go die in a fire

[hard turret]

fair enough

[round quartz]

Circe staff is my favorite lmao

[magic moss]

sheet has been updated for today

[sudden inlet]

I miss aspect of Talos, putting that pull on a hammer for Black Coat would make it an instant favorite for me

[tall notch]

Imagine if new axe special was given a pull?

[sudden inlet]

Would certainly make it more interesting than it is now

[cursive oyster]

this should be a hammer

now that i think about it a lot of h1 aspects could have been hammers

[hexed frost]

Can anyone help a lazy guy with an arcana build. I don't know where to start

[gray garnet]

Just a random question but how good do you think the gorgon amulet is?

I’m just wondering if I should start using it

[willow phoenix]

In the recent time it has been introduced it has passed any other keepsake as my most used so yes imo it's very good

[gray garnet]

Oh ok

[compact nest]

Assuming you are using strength, you should use it literally every underworld run.

[gray garnet]

Oh true so should I just not use eternity then?

[compact nest]

Surface i believe you should save it until olympus or not use it, because skipping an olympus room without a keepsake if she spawns naturally is better than skippin a thessaly encounter or Ephyria

[compact nest]

Assuming you have max rank strength and upgraded frinos i would say yes.

Its what i always do now.

[gray garnet]

Oh ok cool

[willow phoenix]

Start with strength/DD, then if you want comfort get the heal and +health arcana, then ask yourself you want magick regen with unseen, consider rerolls or no rerolls, get the damage arcanas based on your prospective build (huntress, death, furies, etc), add some lovers or messenger to fill in the leftover spots

[gray garnet]

I’ll try that out

[compact nest]

I wish there was an online arcana builder, would be so much easier to just link a starting "always have these on" build

[north vortex]

Reaper frame or Siege frame?

[cursive oyster]

idk both are just numbers plus a different flavor of aoe

[sudden inlet]

Centaur, Wayward Son, Strength, Titan, Messenger

[glad kettle]

How do you like playing on deck? Been trying to break sub 8 but I feel the deck limits speed running

[compact nest]

I enjoy it, but its def a slower experience and i can't be as finesse with my movement. I don't particularly enjoy speedrunning the game but i have no issues doing 15~ minute runs or around there

[glad kettle]

Yh I agree. It’s why I skip playing Medea. Controls too clanky for how it plays and how I like to play

[silent crow]

i love medea

[silent crow]

there is but i think its outdated

[glad kettle]

Me too. But it’s too much mental gymnastics playing it on a deck

[silent crow]

isnt steam deck just playing with a switch how is it that different

[glad kettle]

When I connect the deck to a monitor and use a game pad, I clear runs with sub7

[glad kettle]

Well for me

1. Buttons are too small for the attack/special combo you need to do. Got big hands
2. Screen size doesn’t let me know if I’ve got a skull loaded so sometimes I’m doing the combo with no skulls

[silent crow]

ahh

i have attack on X and special on R so its very easy to do the combo

[glad kettle]

Interesting. I use the back grip button to help, really like Medea.

Just rather play a 1 button build

[silent crow]

what 1 button builds even exist anymore

i feel like im clicking special for status effects on like every weapon

[glad kettle]

Hestia blades with Apro gain. Get their duo. I don’t even bother with my casts

Easy sub 10

[rugged moon]

most are basicly just attack/cast at high fear. special is used for essentially nothing

[silent crow]

whats the point of using scorch attack if its gonna last infinitely 😭

[summer seal]

What button are you using to inflict weak? Aphro dash

[silent crow]

whats high fear for you

[rugged moon]

50

[glad kettle]

Her mana gain

[silent crow]

ahh yeah i guess you just have to roll to press 1 button the whole game

[summer seal]

I entirely forgot that it inflicted weak. Damn.

[glad kettle]

For boss fights If you get Demeter cast and later duo with hestia, drop the cast when the scorch is over 1k

It’s hilarious

[glad kettle]

Makes life easy

[amber mirage]

my fingers smell vinegary

[summer seal]

Well now I'm going for a manaless Mel aspect dagger run on the surface after I finish work. Hestia, Aphro, Demeter, and Heph. I want that 2nd feather Prometheus!

[glad kettle]

Huntress acarna for good measure. Let me know how it goes

[spare kite]

@lavish hare some trials have forced pets iirc

pretty sure trial of doom has forced toula for example

[lavish hare]

huh

[true solar]

Level 10 is the highest level a boon can be right?

[half sigil]

Is there a guide or resource that explains how the doors work? Specifically in Erebus. Starting to learn 50f and I’m struggling with time

[bleak night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1238124170282532944/1241565604188655687/image.png?ex=671cf0d3&is=671b9f53&hm=e5667fdb9541f4181c802491505934d6f95f97e548cea6277e9584d4f9ce636b&

[lime bay]

That's a lot higher than level 10 lol

[true solar]

lol guess i was unlucky then

[grizzled igloo]

What are some good builds for Aspect of Selene, craving a change of pace from Nyx

[rugged moon]

Anything that increases omega cost, weed killer, bloodline, etc

You just spam omegas. Bring hecuba, start moon beam keepsake. Get the one that gives 50% damage for repeated target hit, and triple hit if you can second

Goal is just to cast the hex as often as possible

[magic moss]

plan on adding something like this in the future

[grizzled igloo]

Ic thanks!

[half sigil]

that'd be very cool. I've picked up thnigs here and there from videos i've watched but i'm still missing some info i think

[rugged moon]

Highest ive seen is like… 46 i think

But getting that high basicly explicitly requires a duo boon and echo

[true solar]

Right

Level 10 for the boon i had was p good though so no complaints here

[rugged moon]

Oh yeah esp cause scaling for most boons past like 3 is utterly atrocious

[low bear]

does air quality affect hitch damage?

[rugged moon]

No

[low bear]

ah damn sadj

[willow phoenix]

What's theoretically the best application for air quality? Most lightning bolts can easily pass 30 damage with some poms or rarity. Something like the demeter gale?

Oh how does it interact with scorch

[hexed frost]

How do I build to get infusions. Got 3 infusions last run but I never really get any outside that

[compact nest]

Infusions require specific amounts of an element to spawn, check the requirements in your book of shadows

Zeus air quality requires 3 air IIRC, Apollo healing requires 2 fire, etc. This is different from their activation condition

[hexed frost]

Alright yeah let me read up. Thank you

Makes sense now cause that run I got a +2 to all elements boon from chaos I think

[plucky cave]

just had Eris knock down one of her arena pillars with a single-shot volley lol

[rugged moon]

Also, unfortunately, anything that increases rare chance by a lot also makes infusions less likely

[plucky cave]

that "glitch" is still there

[rugged moon]

i just assumed they had a health pool, is it actually a glitch?

[plucky cave]

I always assumed the "intended" behavior is that they only break when hit by her charged single shot

[rugged moon]

fair, i think its high enough it rarely breaks but if you continually use the same one to hide it makes sense it would break

[plucky cave]

it happened within the first 5 seconds of the fight

[willow phoenix]

I once spent an entire fight hiding behind one pillar and it didn't break even after a long time. So honestly I don't really know what triggers the pillar destruction other than the sniper shot

[plucky cave]

yeah last time I discussed this, someone swore up and down that I was making it up because they had Eris shoot a whole round of multi-hit into the pillar and it didn't break

and they did it a whole two times so it must be my problem

[willow phoenix]

I can recall it breaking one time after eris did one of those dash shot

[plucky cave]

I also had her break it when she starts the straight rush attack really close to it

yeah that

my current "theory" is that the pillars only have 1 "HP" but the hitbox is buried somewhere they thought only the charged shot can hit

[willow phoenix]

Sounds pretty feasible, should probably feedback it or f10

[plucky cave]

but in practice some combinations of other attacks can also sneak into the hitbox

[willow phoenix]

But imo they should probably make it to just have a certain hp, so that I can't just play chicken with eris the whole fight

But maybe that'd cause too random pillar destruction moments

Maybe make it a phase based thing, 3 phases and each phase removes a pillar

[loud terrace]

Was this using a mod?

[silent crow]

no, queens ransom duo boon

[loud terrace]

Never seen it, who offers it?

[plucky cave]

it's the Hera-Zeus duo boon, but you get it from Hera

[loud terrace]

ah right, is there some sort of way to get a duo boon more often? - I get one occasionally but it's pretty rare. - I have the acana card maxed out and selected but hasn't made any difference

[plucky cave]

no, just the Queen card. The Chaos boon that increases rarity used to help in Hades 1 but idk if it still works here

Filling up the core boons helps a little (the leftmost column of boons)

[willow phoenix]

Make sure you have the necessary boons to get it. I get duo boons a lot, even without the queen card.

[plucky cave]

#h2-feedback message
oh hey they implemented this

the golden orbs on the vow of fangs enemies now get destroyed if they hit obstacles, so they behave like Chronos' ones now

[willow phoenix]

Tried a full moon water build, it was fun, had 15 moon water going into Prom. I was actually able to just face tank him and not dodge anything. Every time I got to half health I pressed moon water and got back to full. Tanked a whole 500 damage from Prom that fight with strength on

[dusty sapphire]

any new consensus on the good persephone builds?

when I was last active I memed around with some geyser spout lucid gain shenanigans but they were inconsistent as hell

zeus cast was good obviously. any new ones cropped up?

[willow phoenix]

Demeter can be pretty consistent from my experience

arctic ring is nice, deals decent enough damage for the charge

[wild swan]

man i did not know Dio's Fig Leaf could work in mini-boss rooms. He just nixed the fight with the serpent in Oceanus for me

[willow phoenix]

can potentially become hail storm too

Athena keepsake still doesn't work in olympus sigh

[dusty sapphire]

what? really?

I swear it does... huh? did I just always get lucky when I equipped it?

[willow phoenix]

most likely lol

[compact nest]

As of yesterdays patch the keepsake stopped working most of the time. Even if you saw her in olympus it likely didn't use up her keepsake to increase rarities.

This patch we just got a few minutes ago fixed bone rewards so its possible its fixed now

[willow phoenix]

Oh so a general bug for athena

[compact nest]

no, specifically the keepsake

[willow phoenix]

Ya that's what I meant, not just area specific like the old bug

Kinda want to see if it now works on the fields

[compact nest]

Kinda. If you found her in olympus it was likely a random spawn. But it caused her to only spawn in erebus/Ephyria and nowhere else except very rarely from reports i got.

Its possible MF was always bugged and it just expanded to other regions after that patch though

and maybe its fixed yeah.

[analog ether]

How long did it take you guys to get the Bared Fangs achievement (get all of the Vow of Fangs effects)?

Still trying to encounter Slicer (whatever it does)

[barren marsh]

That's this games Benefits Package, right? it shouldn't take too long to see them all

Just keep it on and it'll happen naturally

[cursive oyster]

this is total hearsay but i think slicer may be most common on ephyra tombstones

[plucky cave]

I think I've seen it 3 times on tombstones and 2 times on thorn-weepers

it adds a rotating lightsaber to the enemy

[loud moat]

What are opinions on Wicked (+30 power) vs Rapid (50% attack speed) for the Staff? In a vacuum comparatively?

Attack boons that boost high percent (Aphro, Hera, Apollo, Dem) benefit with Wicked. But where was the 50% attack speed eclipse that I’m wondering?

[compact nest]

like day 2 of the patch. Never had issues with slicer, likely because erebus has higher chance of spawning the vine shades vs Ephyria houses and those are the only two that acn have it

[nova dune]

My opinion is that both are pretty good

[magic moss]

they're equal in relative power but for circe rapid is better

[loud moat]

Also fun fact I learned. You can grab Bridal Glow and then immediately use a Pool of Purging to get rid of it. Free Heroic boons and it’ll no longer down grade them.

[cursive oyster]

it is a little bit silly yeah

[vapid rapids]

Did they nerf Soot sprint VS Eris?

[analog ether]

Oh neat, you can Deflect Hecate's Morph curse

[loud moat]

Also just learned. Cherished Heirloom recharges God keepsakes if you have them up. If you used one to boost the rarity of a boon, then grab Cherished Heirloom you get the charge back!

[loud moat]

With Athena boon?

[analog ether]

Yep

At least, I was able to do it with her Dash boon

[fervent orbit]

Chat what gods are we rocking on skull aspect of Medea lately?

[loud moat]

Yo, Local Climate interacts with Momus staff in such a cool way. It keeps the turret centered on you. Ran it with Geyser spout and just ran around with Omega Cast blast on auto pilot

[timber pawn]

Zeus special, aphro attack

[hexed frost]

Hera or Aphrodite on attack for sister blades fear 12

[fervent orbit]

That sounds dope ty

I always run aphro on blades attack

[hexed frost]

What do you run on special

[half sigil]

Hera

[loud ice]

Am I crazy or is Xinth way harder to use than all the other weapons
Maybe I've just got alot more muscle memory with the rest of them but like it feels like this thing was purposely made more difficult to pilot to compensate it's above average flexibility and overall potential

[analog ether]

It takes a bit to get used to it, yeah.

But once you get the hang of it, it's very fun.

[dusty sapphire]

Anyone done a breakdown of Prometheus' attack patterns? I always promise myself I'm going to study them and I never do because I always end up just panicking

He seems to have at least 5-6 different attacks some of which look relatively similar

[steel sequoia]

tbh you need to get his timming window and just burst like 2s in his back and get away

idk when he is gonna dip the combo of punching flames but i always dodge stuff in this window

[compact nest]

the exact moves don't matter as they all are countered the same way, stopping to make him attack then dashing through him and making distance while he swings at the air

[solid copper]

wicked is insane mostly because the staff has amazing omega dmg and even higher base helps with the % boons you mentioned. Attack speed is nice and all but wicked rocls imo

[rugged moon]

You will basically always take power on staff over rapid. Isnt really an eclipse point unless you got really unlucky and are on like… hestia

[fluid onyx]

hey I haven't seen that one either! must be rarer than the others...

[ionic kelp]

Is Warmth gain just kinda the best?

[rugged moon]

30 power on staff is basicly a 100% increase in damage that is multiplicative with other percents

[rugged moon]

Eh sorta? Depends whats your doing

It’s definitely one of the best

[split igloo]

Guys dumb question but how do I swap weapon aspects on Xbox controller…

[rugged moon]

And probably in a vacuum is the best

[split igloo]

It only seems to swallow when I upgrade them?

[rugged moon]

Rb on the weapon itself dusk

Not the center pool but where the weapon is to select it as one to take

[split igloo]

Ohhh ok tysm

[half sigil]

50 fear is kicking my ass. I’m timing out on Hecate like 90% of the time

[low bear]

Wicked Trasher is pretty dang good yeah

if you don't have a good gain on line I'd pick Wicked over Mirrored honestly

[low bear]

that's the 50 fear experience

[tribal wedge]

Does the night arcana effect charon?

[low bear]

what weapon btw

[half sigil]

It feels like, either I time out on Hecate or I get to Tartarus. No in between lol

I’ve mostly tried on blades but I’ve also tried axe a little. I just need more practice I think

[low bear]

pretty much, getting through Hecate means you got a good enough start that you can get through most of the run

[half sigil]

Yea feels like that

[low bear]

Oceanus is also really quick

[low bear]

what's the night arcana again?

[half sigil]

I got a run where I got to Hecate with 1:40, and most other runs I get there with 10s left. Idk why such a variance with the skips

[tribal wedge]

+50 power for ur omega cast

[low bear]

ah yes and it's pretty much a staple for that weapon

[tribal wedge]

Aight bet

[low bear]

yeah maybe you need to manipulate some early room rng more?

ideally you get your Hera attack by room 3

I would prioritize Hera over hammer honestly

oh and are you using Artificer? I think that's also pretty big

getting a barrier shredder early is also pretty important imo

[compact nest]

Chaos skips a room entirely, artemis nem pause timers, arachne skips timer, mid shop skips a room and pauses timer etc

[bleak night]

You highrolled those rooms

[half sigil]

Yea I am, and if have hammer and Hera I pick Hera always

[half sigil]

Yea I understand the basic concept I just don’t really know if I can manipulate it or it’s just rng

[compact nest]

its rng. Can't reroll into any of the above

its even rng within rng by getting good enemy room variations

[low bear]

also remember that Nem/Arty never appears for Major rewards

[compact nest]

They appear for hearts which count as major rewards iirc, just don't appear for boons

[low bear]

ah right sorry I meant boons/hammers

[compact nest]

i know cause i took a heart door and nemesis was like "nah pay me if u want it"

[lavish hare]

any advice for an attack boon on daggers other than hestia or maybe poseidon?

[low bear]

Hera

[compact nest]

I'm also 99% sure she appears for hammers too, she offered to sell haelien one on stream

[lavish hare]

hera's a percent buff, though, does she scale well?

[compact nest]

but i can't personally confirm or have a timestamp on vod

[low bear]

yeah especially if you get the dagger hammer that gives you power

[lavish hare]

ahhh nice

[half sigil]

She did to me earlier also

[low bear]

ah I see I could be wrong then

I also find it helps a lot to watch the consistent high fear players like Mynt/Foolish/Boated just to see what they do differently

[half sigil]

Yea I’ve been watching a bunch of them, that’s how I picked up some of those things. But sometimes if you don’t know what to look for you miss a lot

[bleak night]

Whacha looking out for ?

maybe I can help specifically if you need a tip on something

[half sigil]

Right now I’m trying either blades or axe. Mostly blade

[bleak night]

Which aspect and what do you wanna know about in general ?

it's one of my weaker weapons, but I do think I can give some sort of info

[half sigil]

I’ve been mostly doing Artemis. Bosses feel very good, I time out often on erabus, unless I get good rng. I feel like my mobbing could be a little better

[meager bramble]

Can you get the full DD refill from Athena if running Strength and not Eternity? Or do you need to actually have lost DDs for it?

I assume you probably can still get the Stubborn Defiance one though?

Just wondering if it's possible (and worth it) to be running Strength and also basically have the effect of Eternity without it on 😄

[compact nest]

You need an empty DD slot to refill, its not a "gain 3 dd's" its a refll.

And you can get stubborn defiance, but you do realize it would deactivate your strength right?

Like its not "don't have eternity on" or "no dds at run start" if you ever get any DD effects its gone

[meager bramble]

Oh yeah, but I'm wondering if it's worth having one life without the buff every room

Like, play fairly normally, die, and then have 40% health back with the resist and damage buff

[half sigil]

Is strength dmg buff additive like the other buffs or global

[meager bramble]

Global, I think

[compact nest]

I mean lets say you have 250 hp, a perfectly viable amount to have. You have 500 hp without that DD. With the DD you now have 250 + 100= 350 hp.

[half sigil]

It’s global??

[compact nest]

Its a strict downgrade having DDs until you have 3 or more DD's

[meager bramble]

Makes sense! Ta for showing me the numbers

[compact nest]

And even that is debatable because every healing you get is technically 2x value so over time that difference is made up

Only time its outright worse undeniably is vs instakill effects

[meager bramble]

Yup, I was pretty nervous my first time v. Chronos with no Eternity 😄

[chrome mulch]

just out-dps him before the instakill hits 👍 there will be no problems with this im sure

[summer seal]

It was an easy clear surface clear at 12 fear. Got the duos for Hestia + Aphrodite and Hestia + Demeter almost immediately

[safe condor]

Does the cloak have an actual parry upgrade? I know there's the one that launches rockets while you parry but I was hoping for more of a "perfect parry = counter attack with huge damage" type deal because I love parries in games

[plucky cave]

For Prometheus' 5x flame attack, has anyone gotten a pattern where the middle lane is not safe for the last wave?

[plucky cave]

Don't think so, even the actual parry weapon doesn't have a perfect parry which is kind of a bummer

[safe condor]

That's pretty sad, when they said that the cloak would have a counter attack function I was so hyped for a true parry

[plucky cave]

I should just go play sekiro but I'm scared

[rugged moon]

If you lose the dd in a room you get str back until next room when it refills. Empty slots dont count against str

Its still super worth it to get strength + stubborn from athena because it basicly doubles your health after you lose stubborn so you are safer until next room when get dd back

[tall notch]

Sekiro is so hard 😭

[past salmon]

God I love Sekiro Def's reccomend

[low bear]

0/5 Fig again on my 50f staff

I love Sekiro too amazing game

souls/like is my favorite genre

[storm cypress]

What's a good attack/special for Moros flames?

[low bear]

hera/zeus dem spec is also good if you don't have arctic ring

[magic moss]

anything and anything

[lament spoke]

hera special moros my beloved

[compact nest]

mathematically its not though.

You don't get double health, you get 140% which is less than the 200% strenght gives you.

Or i guess 180% since you double the 40%

[rugged moon]

????? This only applies if you can go near hitless the entire run

You are still getting the safety of a dd every room. That also has some uptime of str to protect you after for the second half of rooms

Im also usually taking athena for oceanus not erebus. Really on str to get me past hecate with a god keepsake for build, then athena so as the damage ramps up i have both

[past salmon]

SD is a way to heal through max scars which is why it's worth taking with strength on high fear.
SD is cringe tho plz nuke I

[rugged moon]

Your math only works if you are entering rooms at max hp. If youve taken some damage and are at even 50% already. Now str 100 vs athena+str is still “130” for that room.

[low bear]

is Strength the new meta for 50+ now? or is it still considered easier to go with 3 DDs

maybe I should give it a whirl so I have less timeouts in Erebus

[rugged moon]

Dds

I think somewhere around 12% of the 50f clears were strength

The big issues ive had using both is strength requires either full manaless (aka no huntress damage) or hecuba and investing in max mana

As well as boss hp. Most of my damage taken is still chronos. So having multiple dds (that even sometimes heal for more, thanks athena) is more boss hp

[low bear]

maybe I should start save scum practicing Chronos tbh

I think it would improve my consistency a lot

[rugged moon]

I essentially did that by playing pan, hera flourish. It really upped my consistency by forcing me to really pay attention to position, omega usage and patterns

Pan is playable now but on the weaker side so still had to really maximize the aspects (not counting just treating it as aspectless blades and going hestia attack)

[magic moss]

discounting 51+ clears, current stat is 17% of runs use strength, mainly from Adam2390

[low bear]

yeah I was actually able to do 45F Pan first try whereas I would struggle to get out of Erebus before

[wind kettle]

why does strength require manaless?

[rugged moon]

Because at 50 fear you need athena stubborn unless you are good enough to go hitless. And athena stubborn primes a minimum of 112 mana

[wind kettle]

doesn't the Athena death defiance count against strength?

[rugged moon]

You still get str when youve lost it for a given room

Meaning that the minimum amount of hp you have for a room is 80% of max and thats if you walked in with 1hp

[past salmon]

Tbf you don't really need hitless
I've been doing Medea 50F speeds with strength and the only real threat is Chronos

[rugged moon]

I mean… thats still hitless

[past salmon]

I definitely get hit

[wind kettle]

im small potatoes at only 45f but still outside chronos and some unfortunate empowered mobs, i didnt have a super hard time with strenght

[past salmon]

You can get a lot of mileage out of armour cuz strength
Like Arachne dress lasts forever

[rugged moon]

I mean fair i guess armor works, but you still are often still taking like minimum of like 10 each time you get hit, and chronos hits for 40 with str active. Dress and stuff help but yhat still means taking less then like what. 300-400 damage (after strength) the entire run?

[past salmon]

Taking less than 400 damage after strength calc in a run is not that hard
God bring back suffering so people can experience taking 112 in one hit again

[wind kettle]

i remember that patch

[compact nest]

is this some kind of joke i'm too demeter infused to get?

[wind kettle]

check out my 45f erebus start https://i.imgur.com/1mpqXMX.png

[half sigil]

Yes

[glad kettle]

Nice nice. Happy it turned out well

[vale shard]

The ultimate no u

[low bear]

If i sac a boon is it possible to get it back as another sac?

With abandonment ofc

[jovial cove]

For Momus does anyone know if Aphrodite's close range damage on the extra omega blasts is based on Mel's position or the position of the snakes?

[frigid lance]

just tested it and it is based on mel's location. i.e if the snake is close to an enemy but mel is far away, it will do normal damage, but important to remember is that if mel is close to an enemy but the snake is far away, you will still get the bonus damage

[jovial cove]

ok thank you

currently at 300% damage

now 330 with another pom

[magic moss]

sheet has been updated for today

[low bear]

i've got another one for ya

[magic moss]

oh?

[low bear]

yeah uploading, 50 Fear Momus this time lol

I got a legendary luck Erebus, walked out with like a minute left

although I got semi screwed by Heph force replacing my Warmth Gain with Fixed lol, and later in the run I got Mirrored via Echo

[low bear]

@magic moss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA69e3GrYAc&ab_channel=jdeeyu(TekBurstStream)

[vital ledge]

one day I will dodge an attack from prometheus, it will be great! keep losing to the guy on any fear level.
serious question: is there any tell of what attack he is doing that I'm simply not seeing? currently the only way for me is to just face tank everything and deal more damage than he does -.-

[frigid lance]

It depends of if you have vow of frenzy on. If you don’t, the kick has a pretty clear tell, as does the one where he jumps up and slams on the ground. The combo attacks where he runs at you and does small flurries of hits you probably have to predict or just run away really really fast. If you have vow of frenzy you just get hit idk I hate it. If you keep fighting him, you’ll definitely get better.

[vital ledge]

I just mean, I see that he does "something", I just don't know what.
dodge trough: he does the aoe and hits me anyway
dodge away: he shoots the tiny fireballs, hits me anyway
dodge to the side: he turns with me and hits me anyway
^ that's what I mean. and that was the case on 0 frenzy too, now I'm playing on 2, which pretty much means: you take 40% more damage from prometheus as everything hits you (for me at the moment)

[bleak gale]

Is it me or athena dash is not all that now (well now due to sprint over dash playstyle)

[rugged moon]

Imo the dash is still amazing and feels great. Its just her dd boons are absurdly powerful

[low bear]

it's still great maybe not as good as H1 but still pretty powerful, but yeah the DD boons are too powerful

it makes sense since Zag has more dashes and the cooldown is a lot lower there, you're dashing like 80+% of the time there

[rugged moon]

Yeah, although honestly you still dash a lot as mel i feel

[low bear]

yeah you definitely do still dash a lot

imagine if Hermes legendary was +1 dash

[analog ether]

Was somebody still making a spreadsheet of weapon builds? Looking for some Skull ideas.

[bleak night]

Skull is fairly unchanged from patch 4, so you could probs check out the Misc Stats they had for it back then to see what was most used

[half sigil]

Yes

Hé has 2 type of moves. Charges and uncharged.
In phase 1 he only does charged moves
In phase 2 he does 2 uncharged then 1 charged
In phase 3 he does 1 charged, 2 uncharged then 1 charged

Once you know that you just have to wait the end of the combo

https://streamable.com/f2g573

This is an old clip, I was practicing prom only so ignore the low dmg. But here it’s phase 2, you see all he does is 2 quick attacks then 1 charged attack

[vale shard]

"An old clip" patch just came out like a week ago 😭

[bleak night]

ye it no longer makes you cry when you cut into it

[vale shard]

Wrong reply, wrong channel, and hi again

[bleak night]

huh wtf

I 100% remember responding to the one in discussion

[vale shard]

Don't worry, i got it

[bleak night]

my brain oml

[vale shard]

I gotchu boo

[vivid steppe]

anyone got a good whitch staff build for 16 heat surface run? its my last testimony

[low bear]

Hera attack, dem cast, mirrored with hestia gain, wicked or rapid hammers are good too, just spam normal attacks

[vivid steppe]

which aspect? thank you!

[low bear]

Any honestly you wont use it much but Momus probs

[dull tartan]

any good builds, weapons against prometheus ??

not me, but ingame one 😂

[hexed frost]

Blades got me my only win

Abused backstab and omega attack