h2-builds-and-combat

[tawny stag]

Hestia mana recovery is pretty great ngl

[icy lintel]

The best was Zeus/Poseidon with the shield. Just throw the shield and watch as the boss melts.

[tired fulcrum]

Yes from my experience

[eager dove]

thats so clunky

[naive silo]

Thats one of the two generally good ones she has

[frail jasper]

what is her mana recovery now again?

[icy lintel]

I like the Zeus one more.

[tired fulcrum]

Its good with poseidon cast imo

[naive silo]

You lose a portiom of health for mana regen

[gusty lichen]

-20% life +10recovery(rare)

[tawny stag]

It’s constant regen

[frail jasper]

woah

[cursive knot]

Hestia feels kind of weapon dependent to me, daggers feel good but otherwise scorch on attacks and specials feels like it stacks a bit slow

[echo storm]

you guys have any tips for cast builds? Haven't tried one yet in 2

[hollow stag]

What’s the best hammer(s) for axe?

I’m on room 1 and I have these options:

Furious Whirlwind - Channel your Omega Attack and move 60% faster while active.

• Attacks have +10 Power and you take -20% damage while attacking

• Dash Strike deal +200% damage in a larger area

[cursive knot]

The utility from her is pretty good tho

[simple jasper]

I love some of Hestia's support stuff, but yeah, scorch is a bit meh on attack/special

I've gotten some use out of the scorch on your cast boon though, good source of a curse for getting the double curse + enemy in your cast arcana damage bonuses

[split igloo]

i have a question did echo and eris changed their rings? i remember eris being the one that gives 2 but 1 use

not echo

[lunar valley]

Furios whirlwind

[ripe temple]

Hms i want to try special sisters build but not sure how

[naive silo]

I got her to work on attack spam daggers but it was mostly the hammer buff doing the work

[gusty lichen]

oh i also remember dash-attack spear crits

[hollow stag]

Then what would be a good Attack boon, which God?

[tired fulcrum]

Poseidon cast seens really strong https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1218621088049659930/1238169621203390596/Hades_II_2024-05-09_09-42-08.mp4?ex=663e4ed1&is=663cfd51&hm=ec6f7e001283a8f3673f7a4f48c1d027d2839cc90de2f6d3e421d6696cc150d3&

[cursive knot]

Agree it is nice for getting the boost

[naive silo]

I feel like with Apollo you never go wrong

[lunar valley]

Aphro/Hera.
Hestia can work too but honestly just rather get a big % damage

[echo storm]

that looks wild

[frail jasper]

The two runs I got to chronos were the runs I used that build. I used poseidon / demeter's special boons, got some hammers that boosted cast time, that one hammer that makes them return AND deal backstab damge is broken and got decent mana regen. Basically you omega attack to the enemy (if need be) and then practically instantly cast 5 mana knives that deal a crap ton of damage

[barren aspen]

there's probably some really busted combos from all of the gods honestly, just need some testing to find them

[icy lintel]

Anything but Hestia and Heph

[gusty lichen]

why does it do so much damage tho

[echo storm]

Other question is what aspects are you guys all liking? Not sure which ones I want to upgrade first. Rn just trying to unlock them all, the resource grind is so real

[lunar valley]

Eos is crazy good

[frail jasper]

aspects are unlocked after the hecate attempt after you get the fifth weapon right?

[ripe temple]

I see and assuming we use the base weapon for aspect?

[tired fulcrum]

i may or may not have gotten 3 chaos cast damage boons

[cursive knot]

Charon thanatos pan are my favorites rn

[lunar valley]

I tried charon, didn't like it. Felt clunky vs normal cast build where you just omega

[frail jasper]

I have not unlocked aspects yet (forgot to craft the skull before I did my most recent run, aka the one where I am right before chronos)

[cursive knot]

Thanatos axe with weed killer is so fun

[tired fulcrum]

Also than aspect makes it crit a lot

[icy lintel]

Apollo cast.
Hestia support fireball cast. (Or Zeus support cast)
Zeus/Apollo duo.
Demeter cyclone

You can basically throw cast and forget with Zeus/Apollo and deal 2k damage each time.

[gusty lichen]

Pan(daggers) and momus(staff)

[ripe temple]

Ah ok so you are using base one got it

[barren aspen]

I like the reposte daggers, the 50% crit is insane

[echo storm]

I'm not sure what the trigger is, I didn't unlock them until getting all 5 weapons so that's prob one of the requirements

[frail jasper]

Pan? That's the pan pipe / donkey ear giver guy right?

[frail jasper]

Seems so. Do you need to get a passport for the last of them like in hades 1?

[gusty lichen]

[simple jasper]

Pan, Charon, and Momus are all great. I need to mess around with the skull and wand aspects more, but I'm heard people loving both of the wand aspects (Moros and Eos)

[icy lintel]

Pan the nature god yes.

[frail jasper]

knew it

[simple jasper]

Momus is probably the most braindead aspect to play

Pan/Charon are actually pretty fun to use

[frail jasper]

Do you use the boss drops to get/upgrade aspects like in hades 1?

[simple jasper]

I want to try and get a nuts run going with Medea skull, we'll see how it goes

[gusty lichen]

kinda

[echo storm]

it's different per weapon, a lot of them are resources from the areas as well

[cursive knot]

Will have to try eos, I kind of hate the torches

[simple jasper]

Yes, but upgrading involves a resource you get for doing Fear runs (This game's version of heat)

[echo storm]

like ores and regional drops mostly

[gusty lichen]

u get heat to unlock material dropping

[frail jasper]

How do you unlock fear runs? Are those the chaos runs that require some sort of big black stone?

[willow phoenix]

I'm liking medea aspect a lot. It changes your playstyle a lot and has some insane hammer upgrades.

[ripe temple]

Where the hell do we get ||d wood||?

[echo storm]

2nd surface area drop

[bleak night]

Ships

[gusty lichen]

kill smth smth smth

[tired fulcrum]

Surface, second biome

[frail jasper]

||surface boats afaik||

[gusty lichen]

that one guy

[simple jasper]

No, the black stone is chaos trials. Fear runs are from beating the final boss once

[frail jasper]

do you know how little that narrows it down

[frail jasper]

Oh so I gotta beat chrony to upgrade my aspects?

[gusty lichen]

?

[simple jasper]

Chaos trial resource is used to craft more M.Dust for upgrading your arcana, as well as making the item to acquire/buff your familiars

[frail jasper]

chaos the best way to get the arcana cocaine?

[simple jasper]

The non-default aspects yeah

The Melinoe aspects don't need that resource to be upgraded

[hollow stag]

What’s a stronger boon for axe omega whirlwind build, Aphrodite or Hera?

So I can choose which keepsake to start with.

[frail jasper]

Welp I sure do hope that I manage to beat chronos on my second ever run getting to him

[cursive knot]

Gl

[gusty lichen]

aphrodite

[simple jasper]

Eh, possibly, or placing charon orders for 8 a pop

[frail jasper]

so charon's a confirmed drug dealer? When do you unlock the moon dust delivery?

[steep musk]

anybody know how good tranquil gain is?

[simple jasper]

Don't remember when it's unlocked

[cursive knot]

Honestly I feel like I get most of the arcana dust from buying e
With bones

[steep musk]

wondering if i should replace fluid gain

[frail jasper]

Seems good with a busted flames build because they can kill enemies while you regain mana. Fluid gain is broken if you have a decent attack as well

[simple jasper]

Which god is tranquil gain again?

[steep musk]

demeter

[simple jasper]

Not worth it, Demeter one is probably the worst in the game imo

[steep musk]

noted. i already am happy with my gain.

[frail jasper]

Demeter on attack means you have a good reason to use attack (on non-attack builds ofc) + you gain the mana you need

[tawny stag]

Where are thalamus located? How far into the surface are they

[cursive knot]

They're from seeds in chaos

[gusty lichen]

thats chaos

[frail jasper]

if its for the surface spell talk to chaos

[tawny stag]

Oh gotchu thanks

[rotund timber]

What have your strategies been for defeating Chronos? I had 10+ fire boons stacked up with Hestia's slow cooker and 3 death defiances yet he still steamrolled me at the point I had only reduced him to half health in the first fight. He makes the final boss fight in Hades look like child's play

[cursive knot]

Don't get hit do lots of damage

[frail jasper]

anyone know exactly how final floor functions? I'm getting really confused since certain doors are roman numerals while others are actual rewards

[simple jasper]

Don't stand in front of him, don't stand in the time bubbles, if he starts dashing, he'll do multiple in a row, so wait for him to stop before you stop dodging

[steep musk]

ive heard a lot about builds being harder to create because of the increased boon count and variety, but im heading into the third fight with far more boons than in hades I. doesn't this balance out?

[cursive knot]

Anything not roman numeral is like extra encounter

[echo copper]

roman numerals are express paths, meaning they will lead you to chronos immediately but not provide any rewards. The other rooms with boons and poms will give you rewards but will take you longer to get to chronos

[frail jasper]

oh okay that makes sense. Anyways ima do chronos

[cursive knot]

Have fun

[frail jasper]

(I won't)

[simple jasper]

Roman numerals progress you closer to the end but have no rewards, you can take the side reward areas, but I believe that the amount of enemies you fight grows for each room you take, so it gets harder and harder the more side rooms you do

[echo copper]

yeah i once was greedy and took the miniboss room with the golden clock enemy

that dude is nasty

[gusty lichen]

Staff, Posseidon on special, 2 projectiles on special hammer upgrade

and anyone will be able to kill chronos

[cursive knot]

Have never tried special builds on staff, are they fun?

[gusty lichen]

one of the best ones

[simple jasper]

Momus staff special build with Poseidon is probably the most braindead easy build in the game

I don't know if "fun" is the right word, I think Pan/Charon aspects are more fun since they're more active

[echo copper]

poseidon on aspect of pan is super strong as well

[gusty lichen]

thing is with momus staff

[echo copper]

melted chronos in seconds for me

[gusty lichen]

if have high life pool and mana regen, u can spam omega special into a wall after each fight if u went down to low

[rotund timber]

Damn alright I'll try that

[cursive knot]

Pan was nuts on chronos, the two runs i had with it weren't even that cohesive build wise just got a few special hammers and melted

[simple jasper]

Poseidon aspect of pan with "your projectiles return to you and hit a second time" + "Fire more projectiles in a spiral around you" and Zeus primed chain lightning on hit is probably one of the silliest runs I've had so far

[echo copper]

yeah it's super silly seeing everything melt in seconds

[gusty lichen]

its better to use faster channel and recuded cost instead of fire around

[simple jasper]

The best part of Pan aspect is that you need any 2 of like 4 or 5 different good special hammers

Momus staff build really wants you to get the double special projectile hammer

[cursive knot]

Most fun I had with staff was apollo legendary with the double hit hammer so each omega attack was hitting 4x

[simple jasper]

Sure, but the fire around one is a lot funnier to watch

[gusty lichen]

maybe

its just more comfier to use -66% cost and faster channel

[echo copper]

i had the hammer that makes your special bounce to 2 other enemies

[simple jasper]

Yeah, that one is fun too

[echo copper]

my screen was full blue

[gusty lichen]

problem with that

[cursive knot]

Yeah there are so many nice hammers for pan

[gusty lichen]

only innitial target gets on hit effects

so chains and returns are kinda mid

[simple jasper]

The only special hammer that doesn't matter for Pan is the one that makes all of the attacks fly in a straight line

There's also that one that makes consecutive hits from your omega special deal increasing base damage

[jade hare]

chat what can i build on the artemis blades

[simple jasper]

Which goes pretty nuts if you have the fire in a spiral hammer too

[cursive knot]

I think my first pan run i had 2 or 3 special hammers, plus 2 or 3 chaos gates that boosted special

[simple jasper]

The omega attack buffing hammer, Demeter for better Omega attack, and Aphro attack boon

[gusty lichen]

Posseidon special + fire daggers in straight line(if u mean default daggers)

[earnest nacelle]

I'm trying aspect of persephone but I'm not sure what it does? I don't see the glory thing anywhere

[simple jasper]

Artemis aspect daggers is what they meant

[gusty lichen]

oh, doesnt matter

anyway that

Anything that has multiple projectiles on special/omega + posseidon and build is done

[simple jasper]

Still a bunch of extra damage per hit, and the bounce is nice if you have a bunch of enemies all in your cast at once, so you can hit all of them with each dagger

If you're doing the returns, then Apollo becomes viable as a god option since he had a boon that makes you deal extra backstab damage to dazed targets

[echo copper]

and its super satisfying

charging up your special and melting every satyr in tartarus

[simple jasper]

Point is, Pan daggers are pretty flexible

You could probably do a Pan dagger build with Aphro special instead of Poseidon and try to shotgun things for tons of damage

[frail jasper]

died to chronos, I hate that move where he sends out a spinning disc cuz I always confuse it for the regular slice

[cursive knot]

What feels nice with medea skulls? First run i did with them got absolutely screwed and had no attack or special boons until after hecate and just gave up the run

[echo copper]

thats also my least favorite move from him

[gusty lichen]

spin is left to the right, slice is right to the left

[simple jasper]

Aphro attack, special you can do Zeus, Apollo, etc.

[jade hare]

man i suck, i am like 25 runs deep in . yet to reach cronos

[frail jasper]

he never went into his second phase, I got him to like 30% so thats something

[icy lintel]

#h2-victory-boasting Probably my strongest build so far.

Wish I got demeter slow too.

[frail jasper]

also whats the point of the tavern? I thought it was for the mourning fields but nope I get a bunch of shades in the crossroads and I can't do anything with them

[gusty lichen]

#h2-victory-boasting message

[gusty lichen]

u gift ambrosia to frens

[frail jasper]

do I get a gameplay benefit of that or just a higher friendship level?

[gusty lichen]

it doesnt have any benefit yet

but in hades 1 u were getting special keepsake

in different slot

[frail jasper]

the plushies?

[gusty lichen]

ye

i assume there will be simillar mechanic

its just not here yet

[frail jasper]

ight

[icy lintel]

It is also a lot about the story. Not everything needs a gameplay mechanic! looks at my fully decorated Hades 1 house

[frail jasper]

if we cant summon dora to spook some mobs ill be dissapointed

[frail jasper]

The best part of hades has always been the builds in my opinion, but I do see how the other parts could be quite fascinating

[gusty lichen]

everything needs a gameplay mechanic

[icy lintel]

Decorations did nothing in the first game.

[frail jasper]

anyways im sad because if I want +2 dices I need to waste 5 ARCANA for 200 gold :/

[hoary wedge]

which aspect on twin blades is better?

[gusty lichen]

Pan

[jade hare]

pos special u mean right click mouse right

[frail jasper]

I just got the 💀 , what gods should I get for it?

[gusty lichen]

yes

it works on any dagger, just best on Pan

[jade hare]

pan?

[gusty lichen]

Aspect of pan

[jade hare]

oh

[knotty fulcrum]

are there attack boons better than demeter's

[echo copper]

depends on the weapon you're using

[gusty lichen]

Aphrodite

[echo copper]

i think axe + aphrodite is really fun

[knotty fulcrum]

is aphrodite like in hades 1? big damage

[echo copper]

she does have weak, but her whole thing is enemies close to you take more damage

[merry kiln]

chat what weapon do i run this run

and what god/build shouild i focus

[cursive knot]

Thanatos axe with weed killer

[frail jasper]

hephaestus + axe + that psychic omega attack hammer, seems decent

[frail jasper]

What's this "weed killer" I've heard about so many times?

[cursive knot]

Demeter boon that boosts omega attacks

[knotty fulcrum]

i think the staff with demeter attack and hammers for omega attack is quite good ans also easy to play

[merry kiln]

ayooo its not even an axe its just a scythe

[cursive knot]

Its fun

[echo copper]

why did thanatos get a scythe but charon didnt get an oar

[frail jasper]

what gods work the best with the skull? Feeling very excited to try it because the omega attack is literally just the special from the rail, and I wanna know what boons work with it

[merry kiln]

what's skulls best aspect btw

[gusty lichen]

aspect of Pan(hammers: Reduced cost +Return/Straight line/Circle) + Posseidon special + zeus/(fire one) cast on cursor + mana regen anything

[inner frigate]

hello there is no god calls anymore ? they have been replace with the moon spell ?

[gusty lichen]

yes

[next dune]

What's the best build for the first ||Chronos|| kill? I keep getting my ass kicked (maaybe it's beacuse I don't know their moveset yet)

[inner frigate]

sad sad kinda liked the mechanic

[gusty lichen]

#h2-builds-and-combat message

[cursive knot]

I think first kill using long range stuff helped me a lot, stuff like aspect of pan special build, staff omega attack centered build, and others in that vein

[high goblet]

my best winrate is with witch staff, spamming technical, agressive boons

[stable ether]

The Executioner's Chop with Aspect of Malinoë axe literally cancels your last hit, you are basically stuck in animation and don't hit if you don't have 20 magick, wtf

[high goblet]

(at least until you learn the bosses pattern, short range weapons are way more difficult)

[cursive knot]

There are a few windows where you just can't be right next to him but some long range stuff can be dishing out insane damage

[green jewel]

Do you guys try and force builds or just center them around the boons you find on the way? I feel like that’s been my biggest hurdle this game

[gusty lichen]

trying to force

[simple jasper]

First two zones are for god keepsakes to force a boon, second two zones are for things to boost a run

[patent zephyr]

I try to design my build around the first boon that i get

[gusty lichen]

i use 3 keepsakes to build up core of the build, first floor posseidon as main damage dealer, then zeus to try to get cast on cursor or energy regeneration and third keepsake is whatever left to find

[wet nova]

The trials are pretty nice to let you know some builds exist

[grand prism]

Total opposite for me. First two are "play what ya get", last two are "pick boons to target build completers"

[patent zephyr]

Can i ask a question here about an aspect?

[wet nova]

Didn’t know how aspect of Charon worked but seemed to be pretty busted

[simple jasper]

Yeah, great with Apollo or Poseidon cast

Meant to reply to your other message, whoops

[patent zephyr]

The aspect of medea sticks the attack to my hand, is it supposed to work like that?

[simple jasper]

Yes, use the attacks then try using the special into Skelly

[wet nova]

Have you played hades1 btw?

[scenic saddle]

when buying weapon aspects, does the weapon get the effects of ALL the aspects? or do i have to choose one aspect?

[wet nova]

If so think of it as aspect of Beowulf with the cast loading although they explode after 3s aswell as on impact

[wet nova]

Choose one aspect only

[patent zephyr]

i did play

[high goblet]

Just the chosen one ^^

[patent zephyr]

ohhhhhh, i get it

[scenic saddle]

how do i choose an aspect? i have two bought but it doesnt tell me to choose one

[simple jasper]

They either explode after 3 seconds, or when you use your special to dash into something

[gusty lichen]

touch weapon again

[wet nova]

Best way to use aspect of medea is like Beowulf for sure, waiting the full 3s is not very practical😂

[patent zephyr]

you can transform the weapon selecting the weapon again

[simple jasper]

Select the weapon then stand next to it and interact again

[patent zephyr]

i'll try that in my next run

[scenic saddle]

ahhh thanks!

[simple jasper]

Try it with Aphro attack

[scenic saddle]

ive failed chronos 4 times now 😦 feel so bad that i cant learn it faster

[patent zephyr]

it's really normal

i beat him around the 35th night

i took a considerable amount of time to learn the attack pattern

[thin lantern]

Which gods have Earth boons?

[wet nova]

I failed like 2 times before beating him but second time I just played ranged and observed attack patterns more

[wet nova]

hephaestus, demeter and hera mainly

[grand prism]

I'm on night 50 and have only faced him twice lol. Love that the game isn't a faceroll like the first one

[thin lantern]

Thanks, I should keep throwing my runs at the wall until I get Coarse Grit. Got killed RIGHT before beating Chronos with Moros aspect.

[scenic saddle]

yeah im on 27th night rn, just unlocked aspects and trying to get first card upgrades to get death defy

[patent zephyr]

it's a lifesaver

[wet nova]

the thing is Id argue every non-final boss but theseus + asterius is easier in hades 2 than for 1

[patent zephyr]

i focused on getting it to max lvl

[wet nova]

like meg and the other 2 are harder than hecate but maybe thats cos I faced them with Extreme measures all the time

[grand prism]

So you're comparing them at two completely different difficulty levels.

[wet nova]

I think its more like, hecate has more easily dodgeable patterns

[grand prism]

"I'd argue the game on hard mode is harder" lol

[dusk sphinx]

Guys how do I open the aspects

[wet nova]

her stuff moves slowly

[patent zephyr]

it's an enchant on the cauldron, i don't know the requirements to unlock it tho

[marble raptor]

Is the Skull Aspect of Phersephone even working?

[frail jasper]

apparently you need all 5 weapons but so far I havent gotten hecate to tell me the incant. Might be because familiar and new weapon conversations have higher priority than that one though

nvm she talks about it and gives you the incant AFTER you beat her, not before

[icy lintel]

Wtf Eris is so annoying. Deals damage to the entire area and by the end of it her shots deal 4x.

First time facing her and I used 2 Death Defience and the Skelly Tooth.

Even Chronos don't give this much trouble.

[wet nova]

Apparently you need to beat first boss with all 5 weapons not just have them

[frail jasper]

ohh that explains it

[cloud scarab]

with something like Hearth Gane when it says -20% life... does that take your current hp and subtract 20% off it, or are all future life gains reduced by 20% ?

[hardy ridge]

i still havent beat hecate with skull and got the aspect incant, im not sure what triggers it

[cloud scarab]

(ie does it make most sense to take that early on when your relative hp you lose is smaller, or does it not matter because everything is reduced by 20%)

[icy lintel]

All future gains and what you have.

[cloud scarab]

hmm rough...

[wet nova]

Ok maybe it’s some weapons not all, cos that’s what I saw in this chat once earlier

[jaunty cloak]

Maybe it's just her seeing you with all of them?

I got it the first time she saw me with the skulls (and I happened to beat her with them). I had beat her with everything else at that point.

[icy lintel]

Happened when I beat her with the axe myself.

[jaunty cloak]

What happened the run before that with her? Did you come in with a new weapon (but wipe)?

[hardy ridge]

i personally havent even taken the skulls out because i dont feel comfortable with them quite yet, but i still received the incant. ive beaten her with all the other weapons though

[jaunty cloak]

Alright my theory is wrong then

[icy lintel]

Not really. I never even used the skull against her.

[jaunty cloak]

Did y'all have the || surface || unlocked and the incant for removing the || surface curse ||?

[hardy ridge]

i had both yeah

[icy lintel]

Yep.

[jaunty cloak]

How far had you cleared?

[hardy ridge]

got to first boss and died lol, and i still havent beaten chronos

[jaunty cloak]

Yea alright. I had cleared the first boss but I dont think that is part of the trigger

[hardy ridge]

maybe it just has to do with unlocking all weapons and the surface?

[grand prism]

Builds and combat channel?

[ripe temple]

honestly curious if anyone has a recording of them beating ||chronos|| with sisters? curious how they did it

[wet nova]

Don’t have a recording but used Poseidon on attack with Zeus buff that gives lightning on every attack

[rare brook]

What to do to unlock boon codex?

[ripe temple]

I see

did you use any ||aspects||?

[wet nova]

Idk what exactly to do but it comes in cauldron eventually, you’ll get it given by someone

[wet nova]

I used backstab one but that doesn’t really do anything for the build I used

Since the build is focused on Poseidon damage aswell as zeus

The Poseidon legendary is extremely good if you can get the conditions for it satisfied too

[jaunty cloak]

What was this one again?

[ripe temple]

i see. so using artemis might be better for that kind of build huh

[hallow aspen]

i did it with apollo's atk boon

[eager dove]

does the Huntress Arcana perma activate while you have primed magicka?

[wet nova]

splash attacks do +150%

[hallow aspen]

oh and a poseidon on special with aspect of pan

[jaunty cloak]

lol wow haha

[wet nova]

Aspect of pan also works really well with poseidon

[hallow aspen]

yeah it feels a bit too strong imo

[tawny stag]

cat familiar is on the surface right?

[thin lantern]

Tip: No she doesn't. She deals 2x damage for a fixed time before her buff expires, then she reapplies it every phase.

[ripe temple]

what hammers you used for it?

[icy lintel]

Ohhhhh. I thought it stacked!

[ripe temple]

i also seen aphro for dmg at close range seems good for sisters too

[thin lantern]

I'm not sure if it's possible to get the pet treats dialogue before the cat moves on from the Erebus fountain, but if you can't get them that early, the cat will randomly appear to the left side of the docks area in the Rift of Thessaly. You basically can't miss her if she shows up, but it'll take a while. Seems random.

[tawny stag]

Ok i just got the surface unlocked and lost to the cyclops so that explains why i didn’t see her

[wet nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/799585502050910230/1237717919794724934/SPOILER_Screenshot_2024-05-08_043847.jpg?ex=663dfba3&is=663caa23&hm=3277cc20a145b6692ea4bb0dca07cc4d38ef26556b499d6084d57805c2dfc2f8&

[hallow aspen]

with apollo's i used the one that gives more backstab damage
on the other one i got the one that makes you shot your omega special in every direction

[merry kiln]

i got hades special

which hammer do i take for dagger

between Dancing Knives, Concentrated Flurry, or Boundless Flurry

[wet nova]

was my first dub so was a bit messy but it got the job done

[jaunty cloak]

Lol right down to the bitter end

[next dune]

So, fun fact (but probably old news), if you use the Necromancy hex during ||stage 3 of the Scylla bossfight you can resurrect any of the dead members of the band and there's unique dialogue.||

[wet nova]

yh my first clear I went into p2 full dd but cos I didnt know mechs for it I nearly died lol

[jaunty cloak]

That is amazing

[wet nova]

now I wanna try this lol

[thin lantern]

I swear, the most obnoxious thing about Chronos' boss fight is the spam summon of hourglasses. They seem to just never stop as far as I can tell, and between them constantly blasting time freezes and Chronos being able to dash across the arena instantly AND the clock hands dealing damage, it gets a bit much.

[jaunty cloak]

You clinched it though! Congratulations

[ripe temple]

i got to ||chronos|| first time with sisters but died at ||2nd phase because he did like a map wipe attack i think and didnt see any place to survive|| so I was wondering for a video to see what I did wrong

[red quartz]

r we supposed to have i frames when activating the dark side boon from selene?

[thin lantern]

His AOEs are unbelievably easy to deal with after a while, but if you don't have add clear, enjoy suffering.

[wet nova]

only one I can think of is safe spot mech

[next dune]

They also resurrect as they were, so if you focus down the ||featured artist and then revive them they still have the featured artist buff.||

[hallow aspen]

if it's the ring one that closes at the middle you need to dash through it

[jaunty cloak]

Someone posted a video earlier today showing them shredding with the hell chop axe. They handled the dead zones really well

[ripe temple]

think it was this one

[thin lantern]

Moros torches do such obscene damage that I almost won with a bad build again.

[fickle night]

Thoughts on ||Echo||’s keepsake?

[tropic vigil]

I'm in Oceanus, and I'm looking at the next room, which is a demeter boon with a skull underneath, but also a list icon, next to the skull? Does anyone know what the list means?

[thin lantern]

Like, seriously, torch DPS is unreasonably high, it's just kinda rough not getting hit in an arena like P2 Chronos specifically

[next dune]

Miniboss you need to fight for a Fate.

[hallow aspen]

i like to use it on the 2nd map

[jaunty cloak]

I thought I was just seeing things but there are actually symbols outside the standard skull?

[ripe temple]

oh right what arcanas are you using for sisters?

[tropic vigil]

Ohhhh like "thou shalt fight all the minibosses, and this is one of them here?"

[thin lantern]

Next time, my build will be Demeter/Heph/Hera Coarse Grit, or possibly Aphro special on one.

[tropic vigil]

Relatedly, what are all the tiny arrows floating next to the boon?

[cursive knot]

Sounds like I need to try more poseidon boons after reading stuff here

[next dune]

Yep!

[cursive knot]

Have played around with it a bit but have been prioritizing the newer gods

[tall notch]

Which aspect (of any weapon) cares the least about using Omega abilities? I want to try a 0 mana run but idk what weapon to do it with

[tawny stag]

Hera is a babe

[tawny stag]

Yeah what do these mean

[jaunty cloak]

You mispelled Selene

[hallow aspen]

the daggers imo

[oak falcon]

The skull aspect that loads them into you can be played with very little mana consumption

[wet nova]

It depends what aspect I use, if aspect of pan which I’m using rn (I’ll try send a video of it) I use special damage stuff

[jaunty cloak]

Where I would disagree with this (depending on the aspect) is no mana would stop you from using the omega attack

[thin lantern]

momus staff.

[tall notch]

Which daggers? Artemis? Since you can still channel it solely for parries if you are OOM

[hallow aspen]

melinoe's

[thin lantern]

easily: 100% momus staff. just right click to win. seriously

[tender flint]

quick question what arcana cards can you not have active if another is active I can see that dodge chance and duo boons cannot be activate together

[jaunty cloak]

Definitely not with Mel's. That omega attack leads to some very consistent backstabs

[tall notch]

Would that be some kind of special spam poseidon build?

[tawny stag]

What does Hera cast even do? Does it only damage enemies once?

[hallow aspen]

yeah it's good but you don't REALLY need it

[hard musk]

pretty sure those are the only two
there's one card that is only active if you have 3 or less cards active, but that's not quite mutually exclusive to anything

[tawny stag]

It says damaged enemies that join the encounter but not in the encounter?

[tender flint]

got it thanks

[jaunty cloak]

If you hate doing damage then yes haha

[tender flint]

also how good are the axe aspects is thanatos and chiron good?

[tawny stag]

It seems like it’s just a big cast for one time damage? I got a hera epic cast but regretting it

[hallow aspen]

nah i just think that the other weapons need it more

[jaunty cloak]

Than fully upgraded gives you 20% crit chance lol

[thin lantern]

pretty much, although the base power stack means you could also get some solid results out of % buffs I think

[tender flint]

yeah but if you dont get hit

is it worth it cause like im 90% sure that chronos will hit me

[paper hemlock]

Any new enemy that spawns takes the damage

[jaunty cloak]

Centaur hearts and hell chop face tank to the bitter end

[ripe temple]

huh i cant copy paste ss here?

[tall notch]

Aight thanks for the tips! Next time I get staff as my blood thirst weapon I'm doing a 0 mana run, will let y'all know how that goes

[tawny stag]

That’s a terrible cast then since it doesn’t hurt enemies in the encounter

[thin lantern]

oh, Moros torch and Eos torch can technically be played without any mana, if you don't mind the low base damage of the attack. but you can actually still just ride off the multipliers to carry you, because they really are worth a ton of damage

[jaunty cloak]

That special is so great

[paper hemlock]

I agree it is pretty bad. To use it effectively you have to cast before killing the final enemy of each wave (or before activating each item in mourning fields) so that you hit all of the new spawns.

[tawny stag]

On a boss with hera special it’s only damaging the summons lmao this is so bad

I mean hera cast

[jaunty cloak]

I am blown away that it's that bad

[ripe temple]

how do i post pictures here?

[jaunty cloak]

Unless it's some kind of setup for another boon that hits absolutely everything

[grand prism]

A technique for the torches I just noticed: Once you've charged up your attack to start using Omega attacks, you can use a dash attack to reposition while still keeping the omega flames. Helpful for changing targets by resetting aim assist.

[thin lantern]

upload to private server or DM or wherever, copypaste link here

[thin lantern]

yep, and you can also just cast special (although that resets you to non-omega, but it's essential for Moros)

[alpine sandal]

I had good time with axe and Demeter attack. Freezing all enemies in a wide area on dash attack leaves them open for follow ups. Helps with slow attack speed

[grand prism]

Yeah the not-resetting-omega bit while moving was what enlightened me to these weapons just now haha

[thin lantern]

Aphrodite dash is the best option for torches. I have heard that SOME sprint boons work on dashes, but it's inconsistent.

[tender flint]

what are good boons with the aspect of moros

[thin lantern]

I'm really not 100% sure. I think Apollo sprint can proc daze? It's possible that Hestia sprint might also eat projectiles on dash. Would need way more testing.

[jaunty cloak]

Apparently hestia's dash does

Someone was mentioning that earlier

[ripe temple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1234714119756841011/1238237715980353566/image.png?ex=663e8e3c&is=663d3cbc&hm=dddbf8e125ba0e4677ea38de1ec724e3dded2fd821db60c8463e17b08e65df67&

thats apollos

[grand prism]

tbh I hope they separate dash and sprint effects. More meaningful decision making is always welcome

[thin lantern]

Well... Attack can use Apollo for big AOE and damage, Special can use a lot of stuff honestly (Poseidon, Apollo, even high pom Heph, Zeus... anything really), and any dash that procs special effects (Aphro, Apollo, Hestia all seem confirmed; MAYBE that means Demeter sprint will work)

[ripe temple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1234714119756841011/1238237824491458570/image.png?ex=663e8e56&is=663d3cd6&hm=22217580a31bee04effe11b72692596263d781d3fb865fde38e5c23296e21f81&
what is this

[alpine sandal]

Poseidon sprint is straight up a solid DPS tool, if you got mana to burn

[tender flint]

i was think hera on attack due to the hitch effect

[thin lantern]

you can also get a really good build on Moros with a Zeus/Poseidon pair, like Zeus attack and Poseidon special or vice versa. Works similarly to skull build. Poseidon special just has really fat hitboxes lmao

Hera on special utterly destroys crowds on torches, but on attack it works nicely with Moros. Fat damage buff, hitch on contact, etc

[simple jasper]

Yo wait, Aspect of Medea with Aphro attack is really fun

[cloud scarab]

I am at a part where Nemesis wants to take a swing at me, but when I say accept it flashes red and doesn't let me... am I missing something?

[thin lantern]

Clean Candle is one of the best Moros hammers. If you're confident you can take the one that's 15% faster firing but 70% slower movement since you dash to move anyway

[thin lantern]

Maybe you're too close to dead? Otherwise unsure

[jaunty cloak]

Does anyone else get* absolutely roasted alive by the || heracles || events?

[thin lantern]

Also. If you feel crazy or have an ungodly amount of mana regen/cost reduction, you can put the 1500% damage omega attack hammer on Moros or Eos aspect, because that will actually stack on those torches' effects

[jaunty cloak]

THE WHAT?

[analog palm]

That's the indicator that parry is up for sister blades aspect of Artemis

[thin lantern]

Yes. There's a hammer that makes them cost like +20 mana for 1500% damage.

[jaunty cloak]

I have not seen that. Pretty wild

[thin lantern]

The super duper omega marshmallow, lmao.

I got it last run, that's how I almost won despite having a goddamn Hestia boon on my attack - unreasonably high base omega damage.

Yes, it was CHUNKING Chronos. Also even without it Moros can just shred Cerberus, poor boy

[tawny stag]

I had a heph attack on torch with a TWO second cooldown it was amazing

[thin lantern]

The torch aspects do unreasonably high damage for how clunky they are. Also yeah Heph attack on torch is insane if you can push its CD below 3s or so

[tribal lantern]

Just beat fields for the first time after picking blade & sickle ‘just to farm’

[tawny stag]

It was my first chrono attempt and I only died cuz i had no clue what to expect

[tribal lantern]

Backstab is dumb

[thin lantern]

If you have the double proc heph duo boon, you can straight up ignore omegas and just meme it up by doing tap marshmallow to proc Heph > wait for cooldown > time the special to detonate and reproc double Heph > repeat

that's a meme build but it's a totally viable meme build. it's just very silly because you're kind of brute forcing past the entire mechanic to go "screw you I have an explosive chaingun"

I love how three days in we're finally seeing the spicy torch strats, lmao.

Everyone on day 1: Weapon trash, literally unplayable
Everyone on day 3: Wait, the aspects do HOW much damage?

Eos with Apollo dash might also be absolutely hilarious. I wonder, can you kite them forever with enough movement speed?

[fickle night]

First time I tried torches I loved them. I’m glad that theyre becoming popular

[thin lantern]

If you can literally just outrun eos torch at a certain speed% threshold, eos might be the way to true meme power

if not then I guess risky play with Aphro attack or something is totally viable

oh wait dammit, they expire after some time. still, getting to kite them for a few seconds like the hecate sheep blast would be funny

[rare brook]

So I got from Chaos some seeds to plant in order to get ||protection on surface||, but is it enough? How to get other mats for it?

[hardy ridge]

shovel in chaos gates but those seeds you already got from them will give you enough

[cloud scarab]

after the fountain when you beat Cerberus, are you guarenteed one more fountain to change keepsakes? I can't remember if this is the last choice or if I have one right before Chronos ?

[rare brook]

After Cerberus you can change keepsake

[rare brook]

I know there are some eye-looking mats and something red, will seeds from Chaos give me both?

[cloud scarab]

yeah but is that the last time before facing Chronos?

[thin lantern]

Yes

[rare brook]

Yes

[cloud scarab]

okay

Lucky Tooth or Evil Eye? What do you guys think? 😄

20% more dmg vs Chronos or one more revive at 50 hp

[hardy ridge]

the seeds will give you ||thalamus|| the ore deposits will give you ||plasma||

[rare brook]

Ore deposists? You mean I need to mine something in chaos gate?

[hardy ridge]

yes but its not needed for the incant for surface

[tawny stag]

Hera cast is alright for oceanus spawns but that’s about it lol

[shell swan]

What’s the red thing called?

[rare brook]

I think this explains it: https://www.thegamer.com/hades-2-how-to-unlock-ward-surface-route/

[cloud scarab]

does "going dark" also mean you are invulnerable? Or just invisible?

[sudden belfry]

im in tartarus rn, what does the little paper/list icon beneath the door symbol (like boon or whatever) mean?

[spiral latch]

how does the aspect of persephone work for the skull?

[shell swan]

I believe that it just means its part of a fate quest

The one I’ve seen is under miniboss doors bc of the fated quest beat all minibosses

[tender flint]

ok I love my torches a lot but is the lock on broken cause I can be standing next to enemies and lots of time the torches wont ffocus the person next to me but some random enemy far away

[hushed remnant]

any tips and on builds that do good against chronos? I reach him every run and just cant win

[limber aurora]

can someone recommend a good axe build?

[hushed remnant]

spin 2 win

[young bough]

Funny that you mention it. I JUST unlocked argent skull and am now wondering what builds to go with

So uh, if someone has skull ideas, tag me and lemme know

[mellow condor]

axe seems weaker than it should be

[split igloo]

I have gotten the best results with the axe

Tho I have unlocked 3 weapons so far, I'm not that good at dodging

[mellow condor]

idk it feels like the damage isnt worth the slow firing

the special is better

[split igloo]

Yeah, special is good. Sisters Knife special feels meh in comparison

[mellow condor]

idk how to use them i just got a hammer with 3 options all about the special

maybe they're good with zues

[feral kettle]

dude getting three hammers from Echo is insane honestly, just happened upon an amazing build with lim and oros artemis aspect, hephaestus special, then hook knives, spiral knives and Zeus's prime eletric shot

incredibly fun run

[split igloo]

I'm figuring out the game so I might find sth better. The thing is, I usually go for DPS with high HP in other games, so I don't have to dodge/guard. So, it isn't working here lol

Eh, I will get it one of those days. I'm collecting items and arcanas rn

[modest finch]

Is meda's aspect for the skulls j the best weapon

[silk flint]

Am I the only one who finds the Goddess ||Hera||'s boons underwhelming? After getting her a feel times, I kinda of feel like never getting her boons again 🤔

[modest finch]

Is she the blue icon? Then yeah mostly ass

[silk flint]

maybe I just don't understand the usefulness of her boon effects? They just feel lame to play with.

[thin lantern]

Gotta get 6 earth boons for coarse grit. Then you can literally just facetank the final boss nuke all day

Also, get Hephaestus' magick to health boon so you also have a billion hp

[modest finch]

Forge and fire god and demeter are broken

Demeter and meda asoect skulls sre my fav build and it's not close

[cloud scarab]

man I am just too bad to fight Chronos... it is insane

[silk flint]

Fire effects don't feel too strong for me. Forge god feel balanced overall. Demeter is amazing, except for the fact that her effect is useless in the final boss...

[split igloo]

Thanks for the tip!

[modest finch]

Yeah same I keep failing even with 3 death defiances lmao

[young bough]

@lunar kite wait what actual boons would you suggest for skully boy? I know you said defense but you still need an attack and spec boon eventually

[modest finch]

What? The freeze works on chronos

[split igloo]

But who do you mean by earth boon? Demeter? But her stuff is ice?

[modest finch]

Was quite helpful imo

[cloud scarab]

yeah I had 2 death defiances and the lucky tooth... and didnt even finish the first stage this time... I am just lacking damage. And then I succumb to timing mistakes with his massive damage

[silk flint]

no it doesn't 🤔 I'm pretty sure, I used Demeter twice in his fight

[modest finch]

What's the lucky tooth do btw and who's it from?

[cloud scarab]

Skelly and gives you one more revive to 50hp

[silk flint]

skelemias. It gives you another revive.

[thin lantern]

Her cast is unironically the worst in the game, her magick regen is the single best one by like an order of magnitude, and she has the highest raw damage on her boons so that's kind of the main feature. Hitch is also super busted on groups but for bosses, it's raw power.

Her utility boons are nightmares to learn but they're very abusable if you know how. Like, say, using bridal glow to make all your boons higher rarity... And then taking Zeus' version of their Duo Boon to purge the bridal glow before it eats that rarity again.

[modest finch]

Oh i got that one

[thin lantern]

Demeter, Heph, and Hera all have Earth element on some boons. You need to unlock elements at the cauldron.

[silk flint]

each specific boon has a specific element attached to it. Each god may have boons with different elements (You have to unlock the ability to see this in the caldron).

[split igloo]

Ah, I haven't gotten that far

Thanks for the info

[thin lantern]

It works on him. He's just a bit resistant to being slowed that way, maybe. But Dem's cyclone chill 100% works...

[split igloo]

Btw, is Athena gone?

[thin lantern]

Bosses can't be hard frozen. He does for sure slow down though. Demeter dash or cast vortex make Chronos so much easier

[split igloo]

I haven't seen her so far

[silk flint]

I don't remember what her magic regen is like. Well, ok, I will give it a few more tries then. She might work well with the axe then.

[humble holly]

are there any resources with suggested builds or is it just the discussion in this channel so far?

[thin lantern]

Not yet implemented. Along with Ares and Dionysus. Coming soon

[split igloo]

Ah, I see

[silk flint]

did they say that? or is that a cope?

[modest finch]

Oh so they are coming then?

[thin lantern]

Infinite magick if you have enough max magick to put up with the purges. It only takes a small chunk off the top as prime but refills the rest instantly. Basically gives you like 10+ mana bars lmao

[tepid shore]

Hello, do you know if the aspect of persephone for the argent sull is working properly ?

[thin lantern]

Heard it was confirmed. Not sure where.

[silk flint]

(I mean, too many gods would be hard to balance in the game).

[wet nova]

I got a recording of the fight, I screwed myself over SOO hard lol because I accidentally took the zeus boon which -70% max mana and I locked myself out from using aspect of pan but the build still did crazy damage lol

[cursive knot]

yeah that zeus one feels so punishing sometimes if you have low max magick

i got that from echo once when i took one from previous run and it instantly killed the run

cause i was below the threshhold to use any of my omega moves

[wet nova]

I legit had aspect of pan with crazy good boons for it then went from having enough mana to do it many times over to not even being able to use it once in chronos fight😭

[cursive knot]

oh my

[wet nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938077229206876223/1238250325404553316/image.png?ex=663e99fb&is=663d487b&hm=f0d93b3dba376e38cf7dae07960d5f334e89040de91a9af5ebce328aa7481e6a&

like look I deadass had -66% and crazy good boons then like an idiot

took the zeus -70% without thinking and completely screwed myself (still won somehow lol)

[magic wyvern]

idk if this is the right place and i apologize if it is not but who would you say has the best keepsake? and is there someone who gives extra health like the collar from Hades 1

[wet nova]

the regular god boon ones are insanely good

you can upgrade epic to heroic with them

[magic wyvern]

oh dang

You have any specific gods ones I should look out for?

[carmine nymph]

depending on what you like to play, poseidon is pretty strong

[wet nova]

for me poseidon is my most favourite

[carmine nymph]

zeus and apollo are both good for cast builds

[lyric heron]

hi got a question about arcana cards

[wet nova]

zeus after that

[dire dome]

the more you run into a specific God, do the odds of obtaining a Legendary increase?

[magic wyvern]

oooh Thank you so much

[tall notch]

I love Apollo personally

[lyric heron]

I got the Fated list for beat hecate with no arcana cards but I have unlocked the 0 cost arcana, any advice on how i can turn it off to complete the fate list ?

[carmine nymph]

hey! I’M Eris’ #1 fan

well depending on the legendary it can also be boon dependent

[white fulcrum]

There is a Fear challenge on the list that completely disables all your cards

[lyric heron]

oh so i need to unlock the heat system first

[white fulcrum]

I think so

[wet nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938077229206876223/1238253374986649702/8mb.video-3E6-UV1EadjZ.mp4?ex=663e9cd2&is=663d4b52&hm=6531a3bd5e25f3a78106dc7444e02af313e93e9c70ec9f25c1a65d2d73adcd38&

[cursive knot]

It works if you do the chaos one too @lyric heron

[wet nova]

really bad quality cos the original video is 1.6GB lol

[cursive knot]

trial of humility

[icy lintel]

Man the skull feels so weird. Its special is super strong but I can not figure out what boons to take.

[wet nova]

aphrodite or hera personally

hera can help you clear mobs very easily since those side waves apply hitch

[icy lintel]

Aphrodite is good for close damage. Does the special even count as that close?

I mean the omega special.

[wet nova]

should do, and if it doesnt just get the poseidon duo 😂

then everything is close

[icy lintel]

Apollo always works of course.

[lyric escarp]

damn it lol trying to see if that bottom one Divine Vengeance is good

Ionic Gain - Common
Static Shock - Common
Divine Vengeance - Rare

[open pawn]

Try out the Aspect of ||Medea||. It turns the weapon melee but is SUPER fun and works great with Aphrodite.

[kind whale]

whats the point of the cast? its something i never used in hades and feel like im missing out

[wet nova]

Casts are insane

But the main reason to use it if you’re not using cast build is for the extra 30% damage when a foe is inside it

[odd atlas]

crowd control

[wet nova]

Also that^ it stops enemies in their tracks

[odd atlas]

it opens opportunities fo the omegas

[kind whale]

oh they move slower in the cast?

[open pawn]

It’s great for burst dmg. A strong point for it when clearing rooms is already starting the cast before an enemy finishes spawning. You follow up with the rest of your attacks. Thus you burst them down. The cast also gives some flexibility on having the skulls land exactly where you want them to.

[wet nova]

Try it on skelly, you’ll see hands underneath him

Those things slow the foe down when they come towards you if not completely stop

[kind whale]

skulls?

[kind whale]

thats only if i charge the cast tho right

[open pawn]

Never mind I missread… you asked about casts I’m so sorry. I started talking about the omega attack for skulls. Oops.

[paper hemlock]

am I just bad at killing stuff quickly or is the 5 minute timer a lot harder to meet than the equivalent in hades 1 is?

[wet nova]

No just regular cast will do it

[open pawn]

I feel this… it got easier once I leveled up my arcana cards 😔

[wet nova]

Well when stuff slows down for your omega it doesn’t slow the timer

[kind whale]

ok so the strat is to just cast wherever i see enemy spawns and then bombard them with omegas/specials right

[wet nova]

Essentially always have cast up near enemies, if you are retreating put a cast then retreat so it stops them

Ofcourse this doesn’t apply to bosses

[icy lintel]

They feel super expensive once you unlock like 10 of them.

Have to do 4-5 runs to unlock one.

[open pawn]

Real

[tawny stag]

That’s so scary though

[paper hemlock]

I am still missing the final few arcana cards but they are all visible now and I am pretty sure the ones I am missing are bad

[tawny stag]

How are you guys getting three hammers? That sounds busted

[queen charm]

maybe Hermes shrines

[paper hemlock]

Don't know if it is what people are using but there is a keepsake which gives you temporary random hammers

[queen charm]

you can get boons and hammers from those

[tacit silo]

101 hp if you upgrade it to max

[long osprey]

One day I wanna do a solar ring only run

If I ever get that as my first boon, I'm doing it

[cursive knot]

holy cow sea serpent feels weird with medea fists

your special cant reach him on half of the areas

[kind whale]

isnt ghost onion an amazing keep sake?

[steep musk]

can somebody explain exactly the nature of scorch damage

is it flat damage per hit, which stops coming once you've reached the cap within a second?

[paper hemlock]

Scorch decreases by 40 per second and deals 40 damage in that time

[earnest nacelle]

it's flat damage per hit, but it's delayed and applies at a rate of 40/s

[steep musk]

so a convoluted way of what i said? genuinely confused

[paper hemlock]

if you deal more than 40 scorch per second then the damage won't get any faster but it will continue building up so that the damage continues when you finish attacking

[jovial plank]

It just deals damage over time like poison would, at a fixed rate, so you can ramp it up and run around while it ticks down (the orange number is how much damage you have stored up), and there's an augment to ignite it if you ramp up over 500(?) damage at a reduced rate (like 50% for the common version I believe)

[steep musk]

so the drain is 40/s but you can stack it as high as you like?

[tribal arrow]

So what's the best way to use Aspect of Moros? I got the aspect not entirely understanding what it did based on the description and I'm at kind of a loss on how to make it useful. Is it the idea to sort of weave in and out of melee by exploding all your spirits with your alt attack?

[steep musk]

adding x to the total per hit?

[jaunty bison]

man, the Hestia Hephaestus duo boon is amazing if you get a really good blast boon

[drowsy geode]

how can I upload a video like this?

[paper hemlock]

Yes, although with really high stacks you likely won't do all of the damage because the debuff will either get cancelled in a bossfight or the enemy will die

[steep musk]

great, thanks. however i still think poseidon's is straight better in every single way LOL

[jaunty bison]

I was getting the double hit almost every time with 2 seconds between blasts

[steep musk]

you get the same extra damage from poseidon but you also get knockback and area damage...

[paper hemlock]

depends whether you want the knockback or not, it can be kind of annoying on some weapons

[tribal arrow]

I haven't really been using Hephaestus too much since I thought his upgrades were generally weak or too slow, are his blast upgrades better than I'm giving them credit for?

[steep musk]

the area damage just decimates oceanus

[frail sorrel]

i loooove comboing hestia and hepheastus so much

[earnest nacelle]

well, in a vacuum sure. It does have synergies, like for origination

[paper hemlock]

If you aren't using your special normally then getting the blast on it is really good. It is an even more extreme version of the blitz effect.

[jaunty bison]

as far as I've seen so far, every pom is -1 second on the cooldown, so if you get a decent rarity with it, it adds up fast

[daring sky]

ive been liking them a lot for omega attack spammers like skulls but they need a ton of poms

[jovial plank]

Anyone know how Divine Vengeance from Zeus works? I'm confused by the wording cause, for example, for the Epic version it says:
"After you take damage (or from personal experience, after you get hit, regardless if you take damage), your foe is struck by lightning, and again 50% of the time.)
Bolt damage: 100 (up to 4 times)"

Like what's the "up to 4 times" part? And what's the 50% apply to? 50% chance to strike the same foe multiple times when you get hit? Chains up to 4x? You can only do 4 divine vengeance procs per enemy?

[frail sorrel]

i will also be honest i don't quite understand how selene's hexes are supposed to work

[tribal arrow]

That makes sense then, so it's good to put on something that you don't use very much anyways as kind of a stronger singular hit.

[wet nova]

Upload it externally on discord in some other server or smth, copy link

Since the video is on the cloud it just shows it

[tribal arrow]

I think that means that it has the chance to strike 4 times in a row? It's a low chance but without the limiter the lightning could theortically strike endlessly XD

[paper hemlock]

First hit is guaranteed, 50% chance for second hit. If you got a second hit then 50% chance for a third. If you didn't then it stops. If you got the 3rd hit then 50% chance for a 4th

That seems like the explanation that makes the most sense to me

[umbral flume]

Does anyone know how to get the glassrock *?

[jovial plank]

Ok, was just wondering if it has a cap in a fight, cause there's other boons I might want for this run if that's the case, but never really noticed how it works

[paper hemlock]

50% 1 hit. 25% 2 hits, 12.5% 3 hits, 12.5% 4 hits I would assume

[wet nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938077229206876223/1238261297724784720/image.png?ex=663ea433&is=663d52b3&hm=f9104d6f4c30436b7d897caecce701cee9f06b8977808cc2a0f504dd57c49698& wait this is one of the craziest buffs ive seen damn

[daring sky]

how have people been triggering the artemis aspect parry consistently? the crit buff seems very strong but ive been struggling to activate it when i want it

[paper hemlock]

I was honestly just charging it up and walking into the nearest projectile

[tribal arrow]

Was asking this earlier but what's the best way to use Aspect of Moros? Because I think the weapon is interesting, I'm just not sure how to make it extremely effective.

[paper hemlock]

if you want to parry then you will almost certainly have to hold it until after the slowdown has gone away rather than just attacking with it immediately

[daring sky]

i need to like deupgrade my time slow card i got it to 4 seconds for a different build but it takes forevver to unpause for parrying

[paper hemlock]

you can always just yolo it and deactivate the card entirely

[split igloo]

i think Born Gain needs to be nerfed

https://youtu.be/KucH_kjr9sE?si=Phz9x-AOKdflorhf

[wet nova]

if you look closely it gives you an acorn when you hold omega

[silver oriole]

should i try out heroic flame strike, sacrificing my epic wave strike? or just roll with the poseidon aoe
w/ basic witch staff

[earnest nacelle]

born again is pretty broken yea

it's practically infinite mana with just a bit of max mana

[split igloo]

I dont even feel accomplished beating Chronos with this build i just held left click and prayed

[earnest nacelle]

the best thing is you don't have to wait for regen

your effective mana pool is in the thousands

[daring sky]

whats the acorn do?

[split igloo]

I think maybe the best thing to do is have born gain on cooldown or something so it cant be spammed

because it was my first boon this run and i ran out of mana 0 times

which gave me my hex constantly too

[tender flint]

ok quick question about hestia sprint what does it stop in the battle of eris like cause people say its incredibly broken in her fight but I cant see how it doesnt block or destroy any of her grenades

[open pawn]

Doesn’t block grenades. Blocks every other projectile though

[next dune]

Bro.

[tender flint]

ok but she barely uses them

[wet nova]

wait fr?

[open pawn]

It’s insanely strong against her. It’s a must pick at the moment if running surface.

[wet nova]

but doesnt it just apply hitch

[next dune]

||That phase two is dumb as hell. Even Hades wasn't this bad of a fight.||

[tender flint]

thats hera not hestia

[tender flint]

for chronos

[wet nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938077229206876223/1238266507885150229/8mb.video-JKD-W30PefA3.mp4?ex=663ea90d&is=663d578d&hm=4fb67f196380b26757ddf96e05577537e4b2336693e536edc330aa1faa534bfc& its not a chronos victory, but Poseidon on staff special with hermes special faster cast is just crazy op

[next dune]

Yes.

[cloud scarab]

okay wtf the raise dead hex is super strong... I never took it because I thought it was just an enemy as is that would just die... but you can raise killing machines

[wet nova]

dumb in a very easy to beat way?

[next dune]

I'm around 50 nights in and I haven't got a clear yet.

[cloud scarab]

and with the poseidon boon of randomly gaining mana when striking you also have a free infinite mana pool to abuse 😄

[next dune]

Maybe I'm just bad but my GOD I don't remember Hades giving me this much trouble.

[young bough]

Unrelated but i just had a CRAZY build with the skull, heph on atk, aphro epic on spec, buncha more aphro

Then like 3 hammers (2 hammers + anvil that took 1 and gave 2)

Crazy damn run, just too bad chronos didnt stop attacking, else i wouldve won

Skull is like crack though, appreciate it

[cloud scarab]

I totally feel the same....

[silver oriole]

i think it's the clunkier single dodge + slightly worse choreography and more crowded areas probably

[wet nova]

oh for sure I thought you were arguing its easier than hades 1 😭 😂

[silver oriole]

in general i'm struggling to find as many super strong builds as well though

[young bough]

My sub 20 runs failed though cuz i messed around too much in a few of em😭😭

I managed last game

[woven island]

I'm doing every run with Zeus Glyph. Whatever weopon you pick, the omega glyph will out dps all other skills.

[young bough]

Im a firm believer that i couldve done it if i had turned off monke brain

[oak ginkgo]

Trying to determine wether I should keep Aphrodite attack with the axe or swap it for a different one

[woven island]

Demeter Attack with axe is realy great.

[mellow condor]

turns out hestia can realy amass some damage

[oak ginkgo]

Which weapons benefit from aphrodites boons most?

[jaunty cloak]

Axe or daggers?

[mystic ledge]

I wanna say the ax or the moon blades

[jaunty cloak]

I havent really tested the "close" definition on the spear mind you

[next dune]

Dude, this man. This word I can't say in this discord. Took THREE. THREE DDs from me with one combo.

[willow phoenix]

Finally beat chronos with the artemis daggers. Got lucky with the hammers giving 500% damage on omega attack and backstab. Got near 2k damage with one omega attack there. Wish the target finding of the omega attack was better though.

[next dune]

Dude killed me with a slash, walked forwards, I DD'd, got hit with the scythe's explosion and an orb, died, got back up, got hit with the SECOND slash and another orb, died. DD'd, then died a third time from his dash attack at the end of his combo and the explosion from the second slash.

Tell me that is fair. 😂

[jaunty cloak]

Lmao

[iron brook]

I’ll be honest, in the first game hades didn’t feel like much of a step up in difficulty from the champions (which were themselves a huge spike in difficulty from Lernie). I’m glad the final boss fight is actually the hardest part of the run now, though it might be a little much

[next dune]

Dude really hit me with the happy birthday in a single player roguelike game

[jaunty cloak]

Sounds like how my best run ended

Just got rocked by the forward dash over and over

[iron brook]

Any advice on playing axe? I thought I would love it because it feels like a combination of my favorite two hades 1 weapons, shield and Arthur sword, but when I played it I got wrecked lol

[steep heron]

use omega attack with aphro, and the hammers for attacks are busted for the axe

[iron brook]

Gotcha

[calm plover]

I found a targeting cast (ie hestia scorch) and demeter freeze got me pretty far

[iron brook]

I think I’m relying too much on the block as a shield main

[calm plover]

So you have something ranged and something to slow enemies while you wind up

[steep heron]

i just beat it with the axe and didn't use the special a single time 😂

[jaunty cloak]

Animation cancel and block like your life depends on it. OR stack survivability and damage hammers and face tank like your Guts fighting apostles in Berserk

[steep heron]

the omega attack is just too good

[cloud scarab]

maybe I should give the axe another go... it felt soooo slow and clunky

[jaunty cloak]

That special hits like an absolute truck with boons

[neat glacier]

What's the best build for the sister blades?

[cloud scarab]

but on the other hand I am severly lacking dmg against Chronos every time... so I guess I could try the axe

[calm plover]

Idk maybe i’m wrong but i also had a hard time w how slow it felt at first. But the damage is great. Poseidon dash also helps

[sudden belfry]

best builds for aspect of thanatos?

[iron brook]

Animation cancel what? The special animation after block ends?

[cloud scarab]

which gods would you recommend ?

[iron brook]

You can dash between attacks, it helps a lot

[cloud scarab]

which gods would you recommend ?

[jaunty cloak]

No the basic attack combo. Someone posted some videos earlier today showing how it can be done

[neat glacier]

I sort of just started so no clue...I take what I can get at this point

[cloud pilot]

just completed a run using aphrodite flutter flourish with sureshot fury/hook knives hammers. 215k special damage at the end

[jaunty cloak]

Apollo for the area increase.... maybe Heph for big explosions. I really dont have any strong preference

[steep heron]

there's a couple, an omega attack build with aphro attack and the hammer that let's you backstab.

or an omega special build with poseidon boon and the hammer that makes the knives return

[iron brook]

Can you link that for me?

[neat glacier]

nice haven't met Aphrodite just yet

spoke too soon

lol, she's sitting on my screen now

[steep heron]

oh, dude, you're super early game, don't read here, it's full of spoilers

[charred seal]

Hera energy boon is.... Unreasonably good.

[neat glacier]

okay, I'll just ninja out of here

[jaunty cloak]

This one does a pretty good job showing some ways to cancel

[charred seal]

Like, wow. It makes gameplay so fluid. It also scales your blue juice increases ridiculously

[cloud scarab]

how exactly does the shield work on the axe and what does it block and what does it not block?

[magic wyvern]

What exactly do elements do? I just met chaos and one of the things offers me 3 of each element

[jaunty cloak]

Try it out. I was getting some decent blocks on pretty much everything except ground hazards

[charred seal]

They boost your Infusions. Specific boons that scale with how much of a specific element you have.

[jaunty cloak]

I didnt bother testing this but is that axe block 360 or just the direction you are blocking? The hit box was smaller with it up than I expected

[dry tartan]

@iron brook Big fan of Arthurs sword in hades 1 also. The "cancel" would be like M1 dash M1(during dash). During the swing you can input dash, during that animation you can input another attack

[magic wyvern]

ohhh icic also this may sound dumb but is location each "floor" or is it every time I get to the next place

[silk flint]

I'm having a hard time fiding a good build for the Umbral Flames weapon. It's attack is slower than the Sister blades to be optimal for Poseidon or Hestia, and although the special seems grade, I'm not sure what would be the best boons for it. Any suggestions?

[magic wyvern]

Thank you that makes sense

[split igloo]

is it worth equipping Judgment arcana card? it seems underwhelming. anyone unlocked it? what are the upgrades look like?

[jaunty cloak]

Encounter is what people call each room. Floors are usually split by bosses

[celest pecan]

is it just me or is hestia staff special literally doing nothing? same damage, no status curse.

[dry tartan]

One hammer boon for axe is you can input attacks during your charge X/M1

[charred seal]

Selene reanimate is funny asf and unreasonably busted.

[magic wyvern]

wait so what would location be ? one of them procs every location and another procs every encounter for my chaos options

[charred seal]

Is judgement the random cards after boss kills?

[wheat lagoon]

What is the best build for the aspect of pan?

[jaunty cloak]

I genuinely have no idea. Maybe just a weird typo? It typically defines that off to the side when you highlight no?

[magic wyvern]

Alr thank you for the other stuff tho I really apprecaite it

[celest pecan]

is it just me or is hestia staff special literally doing nothing? same damage, no status curse.

[night gazelle]

Are all % damage bonuses additive in the same way as before?

[charred seal]

Poseidon/Hestia has worked wonders for me

Ideally Poseidon on skill Hestia on autos

[devout shuttle]

I think it's more comfortable to dash with B and cast with A. Anyone else?

[charred seal]

I usually also go Hera to make cast last longer

[celest pecan]

oh i think i see it now.

[charred seal]

Ya just spam special

Try to rack it up as much as possible

[soft thunder]

Does the hammer that increase the number to 16 stack with the extra knives from the aspect or is it hard set to 16

[cloud scarab]

lol make it to chrono almost every time... take axe die against Hecate xD

[charred seal]

Haven't gotten the hammer yet sadly so I can't know for sure. If it's the same as H1, it increases BY 16, not TO 16.

[charred seal]

Happens when you first try out new weapons. Except if it's skull. Skull is hilarious.

I have done a complete 180 on my opinion on skull

[onyx rain]

The skull is pure fun, absolute comedy item

[marble crater]

how does priming work with things that rely on max mana, such as the huntress and ||keen intuition||?

[marble crater]

i hope we get a hidden aspect that turns it into a basket ball

[mellow condor]

hestia good with blades?

[smoky cairn]

can someone rate that last run that was posted in #h2-builds-and-combat

[jaunty cloak]

It is pretty fun but I prefer aphrodite for pure dmg increase

[charred seal]

Let me tell you. Persephone skull with Hera special/energy. You become a goddamn fighter jet. With nukes.

[soft thunder]

I really love building cast because it’s weapon agnostic. So good for farming darkness on weapons you’re not got at.

[charred seal]

Do y'all think we're getting different casts?

[onyx rain]

I didn't try this one yet, but it looks so stupid, love it already

[jaunty cloak]

The fact that you are immortal while the fully charged special is nuking the entire map is so hilarious

[marble crater]

absolutely, get it on the attack and youve got an infinitely ticking dot

[charred seal]

Oh it's a bloody blast.

All you do is charge up special. It's Beowulf without protection

[jaunty cloak]

You'd probably want the stack burst damage (when scorch reaches 300 do X dmg)

[charred seal]

Std Beowulf

[marble crater]

i prefer running hestia for the dot
is there a boon that increases the dot dps above 40?

[charred seal]

There's a boon that detonates excess stacks

[jaunty cloak]

Yea that is the one I was just referencing

[soft thunder]

Unless the 6th weapon changes it, it feels like thats the only cast we’re gonna have

[jaunty cloak]

Is there a hestia + hera duo boon?

[charred seal]

Yknow what would be cool? If cast abilities were independent of the weapon. So we had 3 to choose from in any combination, basically

[charred seal]

Yup, when you channel O moves, you pulse fire.

[jaunty cloak]

Ahhh so nothing dot related

[charred seal]

Not as far as I know

[marble crater]

are they planning on adding back selling boons?

[west mist]

Does anyone understand how exactly glory and the Persephone aspect of the Skull work? I just ddi an entire victory run with it and for the life of me I could not figure out how the Omega special was triggered. The description says that "damage dealt generates glory", but it seemed so random when the elongated Omega Special would trigger. And the little meter by the ammo counter that I assume shows glory never rly did anything

[celest pecan]

oh yeah this special owns nvm this is like rail

[soft thunder]

They said development is gonna last through the end of the year so there’s still a lot of conception and implementation left to do

[charred seal]

I genuinely have no idea. But literally same

[jaunty cloak]

I wonder when they will start updating the placeholder art. I want to see a glowed up Charon

[charred seal]

Wdym?

[jaunty cloak]

Honestly all of the portraits have been fantastic imho

[charred seal]

Aphrodite has clothing literally everywhere EXCEPT her body

[soft thunder]

Minor thing but that’s how I felt about the keepsakes

[celest pecan]

had a question about hestia special, thoight it wasn't working. got the hammer that doubles special. melted hecate

[jaunty cloak]

Oh yes absolutely agreed. I forgot about that

[charred seal]

What weapon r u using?

[west mist]

Like just randomly throughout the run I'd have the longer special and I could breifly control my movemetn and stuff but it was SO RANDOM! Like Sometimes it'd work if I hit a big pack of enemies with the Omega Special so I assumed "oh I just need to hit a lot of stuff or damage and it works", but then it'd activate when I'd hit a single enemy for not a lot of damage haha. I think maybe its not working properly?

[soft thunder]

Early Access things

I had a run with the akimbo wands end because of a broken hammer lol

[charred seal]

Or you could have kept your stacks from a previous wave. Idk man. Probably early access stuff. We need a better indicator if anything. Or at least a working one.

[next dune]

CHAOS TOOK AWAY MY DUO BOON I'M SICK

[jaunty cloak]

HOW

[west mist]

Yeah that circle by the ammo counter is clearly supposed to be the glory meter but it fills like 2% of the way at max seemingly at random lol. It's probably just not working rn

I like the other aspect of thee skull better anyways where it stays in yoru hand and explodes on impact. Tons of fun

[charred seal]

I've never seen it fill. Ever. It's always completely empty then I get randomly jetted across the map before I can react to my ability.

[long osprey]

Just finished my first run with the torches, made it all the way to Chronos and didn't enjoy a single moment of it

[tall notch]

Persephone skull feels like THE cast weapon

[long osprey]

Personally I find that weapon so boring

[charred seal]

Persephone should just ALWAYS give you free movement, so you can actually play with your kit.

[charred seal]

I have never casted on Persephone skull.

[west mist]

I've seen a very very small amount of blue in the meter before but I could see how it would be missed. its so little

[sudden belfry]

oh my gawddd every time i fight ||cyclops|| i lose like all my lives....any tips for him

[west mist]

I thought the same thing on my first Maracas run but once you get the hang of it its pretty fun. I like them now

[tall notch]

It increases omega damage, so try building it around omega cast and only using the special when you have a good amount of glory. Feels amazing

[charred seal]

Stay away. Usually gets the job done

[charred seal]

I have zoomies.

[eager dove]

Does the hammer for torch special "grow in size" over time actually work? if it does it really doesnt seem they get more than maybe 5% bigger

[west mist]

Except glory isnt working correctly seemingly and isn't displayed properly.

[lunar valley]

Yeah they need to work on glory, it's just stacks kinda slow and no indication of when you can trigger it. Probably rushed as hell

[west mist]

Everytime it actually activated in my victory run with the aspect I had no clue it was about to happen lol. Then suddenly I'd be turnign around in my special and by the time I could react it was over haha

[lunar valley]

Yeah

[west mist]

its a very cool idea just needs to be fixed i imagine.

[lunar valley]

Most aspects kinda feel clunky at this point (that I've tried)

Not a big fan of Charon

[west mist]

the clunky part about Charon is that you cant dodge out of the special animation after youvee cast it. so you just have to learn the timing

I had fun with it. But Thanatos is my favorite axe aspect easily

[tall notch]

When I used the special sparingly and did most of my damage with casts/attacks, it'd give me the invulnerability every time I use it

[celest pecan]

hey so why did eris do that

[slate crown]

I KILLED ERIS NOW WHAT !

[west mist]

Trust me I tried everything throughout my run. Idk how you got it working but seems youre in the minority there

[slate crown]

guys eris is dead !

[celest pecan]

wait you can kill her? i just wanna know why she did that to me what's the point

[soft thunder]

Farm mats lol

[charred seal]

She's the goddess of drama queening

[lunar valley]

I feel like it's just unsafe since I tend to get hit right between the frames of the special hitting and shield disappearing. I feel like normal cast build is just.. safer and not less damage since you can focus the poms on the casts instead of dividing between special+cast

[charred seal]

They let it stack, basically.

[west mist]

Yeah tbh the special of the axe can eb rly strong but it just feels weird. I think it needs a rework personally

[charred seal]

Axe is the exact opposite of my playstyle probably.

Do y'all think 6th weapon is melee or ranged?

[west mist]

Well yeah but I tried that. The meter never moves and there's no indication of glory accumulating. I tried in multiple rooms to do damage with everything but my special until the final enemies and still nothing.

[lunar valley]

Probably something crazy. I'd like necromancy. Like the hex

[hard musk]

Axe in general is a bit weird. It by far has the best DPS in the game but also by far leaves you the most open
Like if the dash during the final hit gave a few more frames of invulnerability it'd be broken

[soft thunder]

My guess would be melee because the skull is ranged and that is likely what the player unlocked last

[hard musk]

also if the final hit consistently applied Aphrodite's close hit buff

[west mist]

I was hoping it was Chronos' scythe until I saw the aspect of Thanatos is a scythe so probably not. Maybe a returning weapon from hades 1 reworked for this style?

[tall notch]

With the axe, I'll sometimes take the giga cleaver hammer without intending to actually do the giga attacks just so that I can hold down the blocks for longer

[midnight phoenix]

I really need to be better about utilizing the block

[west mist]

the annoying part about the big chop axe is if youre trying to use the omega attack you either have to dash attack into hold or wait for the big animation to finish to do the omega attack lol

[gilded torrent]

How do i start getting aspects

[west mist]

keep playing

[hard musk]

I really hope they find a way to fix this, it's so annoying to try to charge omega and be stuck in the dunk animation or vice versa

[charred seal]

I really wish it's something original. I actually kinda have a theory. A GAME THEO-

[midnight phoenix]

Its the reason I avoid that hammer like the plague unfortunately

[cursive knot]

that could be a really neat aspect. ||When you fight chronos with thanatos there is a custom dialog too where he essentially says "let's see whose scythe is better"||

[magic wyvern]

yo wtf is that final boss fight

[hard musk]

I lowkey hope it's a musical instrument ala DMC3 or Hi-fi rush

[long osprey]

I was starting to think my game was bugged bc it took so long to get aspects, but I got the aspect incantation once I had beaten Hecate with every weapon.

[west mist]

I started just getting into the groove of doing a dash attack into the omega attack if the big animation was unsafe and using the normal attack into omega if i had the time. It took getting used to but it can be VERY strong

[magic wyvern]

I was able to beat ||Cerberus|| first try but ||Chronos|| absolutly demolished me even with like 120 health and a death defiance. Anyone got tips on how to fight him?

[midnight phoenix]

Honestly you just gotta get comfy with his moveset

[west mist]

learn his combo pattenrs based on his current life. He was trashing me in the secodn half of his health bar in phase one because the 3 hit combos seemed so fast. once you understand what hes doing its a lot easier

[tall notch]

Ranged builds and keeping distance seem to be the best way to go about this fight. His design is ridiculously unfriendly for melee combat

[gilded torrent]

is it important who i give nectar to

[magic wyvern]

nah I couldnt even get past the first phase I like didnt know what was happening

[west mist]

Hes very difficult. youre meant to die multiple times and learn his patterns.

[midnight phoenix]

Glad im not the only one experiencing this

[magic wyvern]

mmm makes sense I was using the daggers bc of the bonus thing

I was doing a great run until I found him

[west mist]

his first phase melee is fine but the second phase i do agree is pretty meh for melee

[hard musk]

Chronos is lowkey mostly a DPS check. If you have 300 health and tons of damage he dies, otherwise you have to engage with his mechanics
(Although someone pointed out most attacks are clockwise, so if you stay at his 9 you can dodge everything but the dash, which the cast can basically stop)

[soft thunder]

Upgraded death defiance card. Cast build is what carried me. It’s afk damage while you focus on dodging

[long osprey]

Moonstone axe + Nova Strike + Hell Splitter (big chop hammer), my base attack is currently 480

Slow as hell but it's so satisfying

[west mist]

Hades was the same tbh. my first handful of victories in HAdes 1 I used all my DDs just facetanking him and winning until i decided to actually learn the fight haha

[magic wyvern]

I def rushed his fight bc I tried going all in with dps I needa get to him and go slow

[cursive knot]

feel like spacing is really important for him, there are certain areas where you're pretty safe from his attacks. takes a few attempts to know where you can stand

[magic wyvern]

My first win with hades was with the bow and I had the lock in from the hammer haha

[hard musk]

yeah it's amazing, with the double attack hammer you also just delete enemy rooms

[swift thicket]

imma just say

the Dark Mode Hex is a scam

[cursive knot]

doing first few attempts/kills with ranged builds probably easiest but melee is super doable

[strange kite]

dood i can swear kronos hit me during invuln

its actually a lie

[swift thicket]

i just got absolutely oblitirated in it

[magic wyvern]

I just needa learn his moveset. I would watch a video but I feel a lil cheap doing it idk why

[cursive knot]

tbh just die a few times and it'll start to click

[west mist]

i have never been hit during the dark mode hex personally nad i use it fairly often

[strange kite]

watch a video. use the resources u available to learn

[magic wyvern]

aye aye captain

[strange kite]

there is no such thing as “cheap” if it works it works

[swift thicket]

the charge up into using the dark hex is when you get hit

[magic wyvern]

thats real af

[west mist]

well chronos is the only one who can hit you during it otherwise time stops around yo uwhile its being charged tho?

[acoustic eagle]

hi! can i ask if artemis aspect + explosive ambush is actually possible? ive done two runs with two hammers each and its never been offered

[cunning dove]

Hestia + Poseidon duo boon completely melted chronos for me with staff

[west mist]

unless you only mean chronos

[magic wyvern]

My favorite weapon gotta be the daggers but with the lack of dashes I tank hits

[west mist]

use your omega attack like a dash

[charred seal]

Okay I have made a monstrous wall of text on my thought process on predicting the 6th weapon. should I post here?

[fossil matrix]

Does the invocation that lets you pause during the chronos fight also let you use slow-down effects against him too?

[strange kite]

yo the 1 dash in this game is enough to make it 10x harder than hades 1

hades 1 was like athena or poseidon dash ez pz everything dies cannot lose

[hard musk]

the skulls feel amazing for making up for a lack of dash --but my brain always thinks I have invuln during the normal special and take tons of damage

[charred seal]

I'm so used to having 1 dash. I might actually turn my 2nd dash off in H1 just to not lose my muscle memory.

[west mist]

i hated the single dash at first but now that im used to the sprint I love it. Get a hermes or someone else sprint pseed ungrade and youre zooming

[pulsar token]

has anyone liked the medea aspect on the skull, it seems so utterly bad

[charred seal]

I might play some melee skull later

[buoyant ember]

My only problem with the Chronos fight is the disk throw having about a 0.5s telegraph. It's just so fast, I'm terrified of being close to him in case the disk spawns too close to me and I don't have time to react. How do you guys approach that move?

[west mist]

its easily my favorite way to play the skull. its very good

[strange kite]

apollo sprint is good for safety but i think apollo overall isnt amazing

[swift thicket]

Apollo's nuke cast is amazing

[strange kite]

i dont like the apollo cast anymore

[west mist]

daze sprint + dagger special return hammer + daze targets take more backstab damage

[strange kite]

i tried building around it multiple times and i think its mid af vs kronos

[hard musk]

the disk starts to the right of Chronos and doesn't actually hit his left right side, so if you hug his left right you'll usually be fine

[long osprey]

Make that 600 with a pommed nova strike, damn

[spark plover]

whats yall go-for weapons and keepsake/arcanas when you start a new run?

[strange kite]

uh did u get that backwards?

im pretty sure its starting left

[hard musk]

....I may be stupid

[bleak night]

I really need to try Hell Splitter, as averse as I am to 3rd hit Axe

[west mist]

demeter cast is very good for this. freezes and holds them in place for your very long attack animation

aphropdite cast too as it pulls ppl in and then you just nuke them

[bleak night]

I can try finding it and then test to see if I can animation cancel it somehow

[bleak night]

If you run Demeter cast, you can place down your Cast circle as you do your 3rd hit animation, so the freeze timer is fresh

[long osprey]

I swear to god these harpies WILL be the death of me (They just were.)

[bleak night]

You got Blade Rifted ?

[buoyant ember]

https://imgur.com/a/zTPxdxc
"I'm behind him enough! Oh"

[long osprey]

Yep.

[bleak night]

What am I looking at

[west mist]

Yeah. But i was talking about the big chop attack. I thought thats what you were talking about

[lone kelp]

he's behind him

[buoyant ember]

The frame the disc comes out

He's shooting it north

[bleak night]

Ah, the Big Chop attack is the natural 3rd hit of the normal attack combo of the Axe

Getting that hammer just changes the entire combo to just the 3rd hit

[hard musk]

I got the direction bacwards, he throws it to the left of him

[strange kite]

if this game had 2nd dash i probably wouldnt think it was so crazy hard lul. and the disc would be easier to dodge i think. everything would be easy to dodge

[west mist]

yes i know. feel like theres a miscommunication here lol. oh well

[mint mauve]

one thing i'll say is that my hex just feels useless during the chronos fight, like a free opportunity to get hit. but that might be bc of the hex's i run ig?

[hard musk]

it depends on the hex, there are multiple times where Chronos just stays in a corner for 20 seconds which should allow you to use most of them

[sudden belfry]

just absolutely cooked cyclops with solar ring + glorious disaster + easy shot

[potent moth]

my second beat used the 1k damage hex and it honestly nuked him

[eternal shard]

what does the chaos keepsake upgrade into? does it ever get you permanent power or is it always just replacing itself

[strange kite]

hex definitely feels bad vs kronos cuz kronos just tps away from the eclipse and aint no way im kamehameha for 3 seconds

[bleak night]

Oh, I understand it dw, I'm just really into axe animation cancels so there's less lag between attacks. Shield sometimes cancels it for me so I have blocks between. I'm going to probably look for a Demeter/Aphro cast in a run and find Hell Splitter so I can test. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238124170282532944/1238175812356931715/weird_combo.mp4?ex=663e5495&is=663d0315&hm=66518bd2748b620f95685f3e8f9e52c4b129c94ce6a2a295b02889cea3173e7d

[strange kite]

but like hex is still a free bonus

[eternal shard]

I think the heal, the fast up and down, and the stop time hexes are all insane even on chronos

[steep musk]

Anybody got a goated daggers build?

[strange kite]

stop time hex? and isnt heal hex super limited?

[tired fulcrum]

Opportunity cost over boons

[willow phoenix]

What does the death defiance upgrade for the dark form hex do? Tried it and it never replenished any death defiance

[eternal shard]

what do you mean by limited

[long osprey]

DAMN IT, Eris got me when she was at like 10% health

[strange kite]

like u can only heal a bit

[tired fulcrum]

I had 13 charges one run

[strange kite]

it’s worth it i think

[eternal shard]

it's a ton if you upgrade it

[tired fulcrum]

And ppl have gotten more

[strange kite]

ohhh well now i know

[hard musk]

aphrodite + melinoe aspect or aphrodite specials + ||pan|| aspect do pretty decent damage

[strange kite]

next time im picking heal if i can

[fringe flicker]

[soft thunder]

Camping the pillars OP

[bleak night]

Poseidon special on that build works pretty well, too

[eternal shard]

are either of the other staff aspects good? I'm in love with the mel one, but I'm not sure if I'm missing out

[strange kite]

i havent done a single run with non staff so i need to farm out the other weapons for aspects

[hard musk]

add on Hephastus invuln and you basically have a free win

[long osprey]

Soot sprint is so OP in that fight but I got absolutely no hestia boons that whole run

[slate crown]

who is the main boss eris or chronos ?

[tired fulcrum]

Chronos

[slate crown]

ok ty

[bleak night]

Eris is just temporarily overpowered for now

[slate crown]

bro i killed her

[eternal shard]

she's like the equivalent of sirens right?

[bleak night]

They'll nerf her damage when the area after her is out

[cunning dove]

Eris is easy no?

[tired fulcrum]

Ngl she isnt that hard to avoid

[slate crown]

yes

[bleak night]

Yeah, she is

[eternal shard]

I think she's about as hard as the sirens, which is to say not very haha

[slate crown]

eris is more easy then chronos

[tired fulcrum]

Even without cheesing with hestia sprint and pillars

[hard hearth]

bro the magic baguette is is so bad 😭

[bleak night]

It's just really easy to be overconfident and then accidentally take 150 damage for it with her

[long osprey]

Honestly I don't feel like it's an unbalanced fight, yeah her attacks deal insane damage but they're fairly avoidable, especially with the right boons

[strange kite]

i want get to the point where i can sleepwalk through kronos on low heat like i can with hades

[cunning dove]

thats fair, but overall every move is very easy to avoid

[west mist]

the only hard part about eris is the insane damage buff she has at the end. take a hit and it can be rly costly

[cunning dove]

yeh it will kill some death defiances when the next zone is out

[next dune]

CHRIST

Managed to beat big C with Apollo cast/zeus aimed cast + zeus attack staff strat.

With 18 hp left, he took off 5 whole DDs

[strange kite]

apollo cast cheese? whats the cheese?

also damn how do u have 5dd