h2-discussion

[queen cosmos]

Its interesting how every area in hades 1 and 2 has a different way of going to the other reward

[restive ibex]

i have, there's nothing of note

[nova oar]

Keep dying and getting moss/bronze

[brave lily]

Ah alr! Didn’t know that

[restive ibex]

so i'm just focusing on what i can upgrade, that being weapon aspects

love that you don't have to cry inside when picking aspects like in h1 where titan blood was so limited

[glacial light]

She's not 1.0 specific (which basically just means post game stuff endings and a few other additions)

[analog sail]

What does echos gift gift gift mean by "basic" effect?

[glacial light]

LVL 1

[restive ibex]

echo my beloved

[nova oar]

Hades 1 was really just 'have fun and experiment but also if you mess up, gotta beat the final boss first'

[queen cosmos]

Guys have you played dead cells

[glacial light]

Yea

[restive ibex]

i genuinely just shot hades with a shield

[nova oar]

Mid ass game

[restive ibex]

it was SO funny

[queen cosmos]

Dead cells was my first roguelike, I always wanted to play hades but didn't had an pc

[glacial light]

Mid ass player

[queen cosmos]

Took me like 3 years to beat dead cells

I was noob asf

[restive ibex]

i'm only boss cell 2 in dead cells i think

[nova oar]

You can't even clear 60f

[glacial light]

I've cleared up to boss cell 3

[queen cosmos]

I beat 5 multiple times

[glacial light]

Meh meh meh

[restive ibex]

that's just being a sweat

[queen cosmos]

What is harder, dead cells 5 bc or 32 heat

[nova oar]

32 is piss easy

[restive ibex]

i just messed around, hell one run i tried to beat dracula with a root build

[queen cosmos]

I think its 5 bc because 32 heat you can do if you're lucky

[queen cosmos]

Everything in 5bc oneshots you anyways

2 because the game doesn't let anyone oneshot

You'll end up on 1

[glacial light]

Bc 5

[restive ibex]

just block parry dodge

[queen cosmos]

I never learnt to use parry efficiently, I always thought dodging is just better

[restive ibex]

and even if you do get hit there's a rally to get you out of bad situations

pretty much just git gud

[queen cosmos]

Hades bosses first seemed the most chaotic bosses ever to me, then 2 came and I was like nah nah nah, this is much more insane, THEN SURFACE CAME AND I GAVE UP

Like why is everyone so cracked

Especially prometheus and eris and typhon

[glacial light]

hornet noises

[queen cosmos]

Its basically infernal arms adamant rail with every hammer upgrade, mortal kombat professional with fire bending abilities and an phoenix, father of all monsters which attacks olympus, then there's a sleepy sheep head 😐

[restive ibex]

[queen cosmos]

Is eris sister of icarus?

[restive ibex]

i pretty much 100%'d my first save file and beat lost lace with my partner cheering me on

haven't touched silksong since

[queen cosmos]

I beat lost lace first try with reaper

[restive ibex]

yeah well you're a sweat

[queen cosmos]

Gotta admit she rivals absolute radiance

[glacial light]

No eris is the sister of nemesis moros Hypno Thanatos and others I'm forgetting

[queen cosmos]

Wtf

[glacial light]

I have a 23 death streak vs first lace fight

[queen cosmos]

So many

[glacial light]

NYX has a lot of kids

[restive ibex]

this might be the worst take i've seen

[queen cosmos]

It took me 5 hours to beat her second time

[queen cosmos]

She's insane

Or maybe I just spent too much time in hk

Ive beat all bindings p5 and speedrun pop in 10 mins on mobile and pc both

[glacial light]

My 10 year old brother has cleared both games and 112%ed the first game

[queen cosmos]

Silksong I just quit after completing because idk

Silksong is just very random ig

[glacial light]

Anyway this is h2 chat not #off-topic-discussion

[queen cosmos]

Like you need to do a lot of here and there

[glacial light]

So Hades 2 talking #notamod

[queen cosmos]

Oh

Is there a way to get image perms

[nova oar]

No

[glacial light]

Some chats have embed perms some don't other than that no

[tropic ravine]

Dbh mentioned?

Connor the flip you doing? Coming hank

[queen cosmos]

I got replaced by some rk900

So im doing timepass here

[tropic ravine]

Wowww

Your the first person I’ve seen to choose machine Connor

[queen cosmos]

My bio says human

But I still got replaced

To disguise as connor

And kill markus

Secret post credits story nobody told u

[wide wigeon]

im having trouble beating cerby

also scylla

[broken creek]

biggest tip i can give is while a lot of the fight is just walking behind him, you time your dashes to the wave the slams leave instead of the slam itself(that part has no hitbox)

and for scylla rush the drummer asap, after shes gone jetty and scylla become 10x easier to clean up

[wide wigeon]

tips for the rival scylla?

[restive ibex]

going behind cerberus just completely invalidates his flamethrower

i've done it with rakaal and the move just doesn't exist since he turns so slow

[broken creek]

ooo i do have tips for that one actually, so theres 2 main ways to go about killing em, either you rush tf out of roxy or you take more time making room by killing tentacles

i did a hitless run of it earlier actually lemme grab the link

https://youtu.be/UAyViYUrV7g

apologies for the actually terrible quality

but thats how i handle scylla 99% of the time, you can bait scylla to get stuck on roxy(or the bottom tentacle) which gives time to clear out another 2-3 on your own and maybe kill jetty if shes kind enough

[nova oar]

We're talking about rivals with frenzy

[broken creek]

a lot of the fight is making room and not overextending

[queen cosmos]

Cerberus is easy if you stay out of the red things, and stay mainly on his back, scylla focus on one thing

[restive ibex]

i thought it was normal cerb, my bad

[queen cosmos]

Huh

Whats that

[nova oar]

Harder versions of the bosses with +40% enemy speed

[queen cosmos]

How do you get this

[nova oar]

You'll unlock it eventually as you keep playing

[queen cosmos]

Oh

[wide wigeon]

sensational thanks

rival cerby?

[restive ibex]

40% seems like an extra scary number

[broken creek]

rivals cerb i dont have a clip for but a lot of that fight is disrespecting like 99% of what he does and staying as close as possiblew

[wide wigeon]

I wanna get the last statue

[broken creek]

and when it gets too overwhelming dont be afraid to step in the lava or just back out and wait

[restive ibex]

wouldn't cerby punish you for staying too close though

[broken creek]

no lmao

[queen cosmos]

Is the rivals thing that purple crystal in ur weapon area?

[nova oar]

https://imgur.com/a/vMd79UT

[nova oar]

I gotchu

[wide wigeon]

bro has a back hand now

[restive ibex]

oh so he's zorophet food

[nova oar]

That's the chaos trials

[broken creek]

ty twin

[restive ibex]

[nova oar]

Any time

[wide wigeon]

holyyyy

[broken creek]

rivals cerby you can disrespect a lot more of what hes doing

[restive ibex]

what's the change between him and normal cerby

[queen cosmos]

There's so much more content in hades 2 🥲 why couldn't it be simpler and keep everything in the normal vow of nights

[broken creek]

you kinda just hope he doesnt do the triple head fire spray, if you do that youre kinda just cooked

[wide wigeon]

circe aspect is so goated

[broken creek]

kinda like EM lernie, big fire room instead of normal ground, and a couple new moves

[nova oar]

You can click on my link to see the fight

[restive ibex]

i never fought EM lernie but i think i get the idea

[queen cosmos]

I will play medea on surface

[nova oar]

I try to get him next to the walls so he might dash into it instead of halfway across the map

[broken creek]

truuuue but then you have to be wary of the fireballs dropping nukes point blank

hes a fight that can really easily get out of hand if youre a bit unlucky

[wide wigeon]

for the skull do I get the chant from media or mom

[nova oar]

Yeah you gotta hope for a good cycle

[broken creek]

medea

[nova oar]

Medea

[broken creek]

yeah ive had one before where he actually just never moved and spammed hand slams and fireballs, that was goated, but then you have times where the counter makes him tweak tf out and he does some bs 😔

[restive ibex]

actually what's the intended playstyle for the skull? my first trial with it i kinda just unloaded with hestia-boosted shells and suckerpunched anything else in my way with the special

[queen cosmos]

DUDE MEDEA IS CRAZY I TRIED IT YESTERDAY

[restive ibex]

aphrodite-boosted skull special hits surprisingly hard in my experience

[broken creek]

for mel skull its get a fat % boon and unload all shells -> special -> repeat

[nova oar]

%damage attack, curse special, and what plum said

[wide wigeon]

don't talk to me about the skull i hate it

[restive ibex]

so don't do anything else, got it

[broken creek]

for medea its get blitz special and a big % attack and everything dies, persephone is just worse mel skull unless you wanna actually play into the Ospec, and hel is dookie(i love it)

[queen cosmos]

Uhhhhhhhh wut, YOU ASKED FOR IT 😭

[broken creek]

hel is just h1 rail so you want on hit stuff, poseidon/hestia, static shock, then blitz or hitch on the special preferably

[wide wigeon]

best one is mom aspect

[restive ibex]

clockets

[nova oar]

Explain this nerd /j
https://imgur.com/a/c4VoQPJ

[wide wigeon]

still bad tho

[nova oar]

Almost the worst skull aspect btw

[broken creek]

shoutout p.array

[restive ibex]

what exactly do you mean by "curse special" btw

[broken creek]

just any special that applies a curse(i.e. hitch, blitz, wounds, etc)

[queen cosmos]

Wtf is mom aspect 💀

[nova oar]

Aspect of persephone for the skulls

[restive ibex]

oh interesting

[nova oar]

Yeah i didn't use the aspect once

[restive ibex]

i took aphrodite special for just sucker-punching since i went up close anyway, plus i got the hammer upgrade that made it go farther and hit harder

how omega-spammy is the skull? it felt like it didn't need omegas at all

[nova oar]

Collussus driver is the one hammer that makes that build good well done

[nova oar]

Not at all

[wide wigeon]

ion wanna type out persephone each time so mom lmao

[wide wigeon]

which one is this

[restive ibex]

big special numbers made my brain happy

i naturally got domed at cerberus

LMAO

[nova oar]

Persephone lmao, but I wasn't using the aspect

[wide wigeon]

js spam attack and special?

[nova oar]

Yep

[restive ibex]

i've only gotten to tartarus with the flames, and even then i make it all the way to chronos

[broken creek]

at high fear mom skull is just played like a worse mel skull

[nova oar]

Do you want to see my fastest chronos fight?

[restive ibex]

my first chronos attempt i got socked in the throat for 56 because Eris decided to show up like a nerd

[wide wigeon]

im going at 33 fear rn might try circe still haven't seen rival grandpa

[restive ibex]

i'm scared but sure

[broken creek]

i looove circe im running it to try to get the first 67f uw with it

[wide wigeon]

im addicted to mel flames tho the crit chance calls to me like the goblin mask

[nova oar]

https://imgur.com/a/2G0u6wu

[restive ibex]

tbh all the mel aspects seem really good ngl

[nova oar]

Oh red never did it?

[broken creek]

idk i dont think so

[restive ibex]

i have mel flames at 3 or 4 iirc, the crits are nice

[broken creek]

at least i hope not 🥀

god forbid im employed

[nova oar]

Every aspect is good enough to do almost any difficulty (except selene we hate selene)

[nova oar]

Ik he was literally one hit away from doing it

[broken creek]

thats tragic actually

[wide wigeon]

how tf do you do 67f like the timer and hordes kinda hard no?

[broken creek]

you hope you get your build in 5 rooms and if not reset

[nova oar]

Real

[broken creek]

like genuinely im not joking

[wide wigeon]

lowk not even gonna do it im stopping at 33

[restive ibex]

actually turned him into mincemeat wtf

[broken creek]

you reroll jpom til you get gigaros, hope erebus gives you most of what you need stupid fast, then after that its playing super super clean and hoping fangs and room rng doesnt screw you

[nova oar]

Yep

[queen cosmos]

Mushroom

[broken creek]

my pb rn is p2 scylla but im getting there more consistently, soon ill start complaining about cerb 😌

[nova oar]

You pretty much need to be able to do 62 hitless

[queen cosmos]

Idk I wanted to say mushroom so mushroom 🍄

[nova oar]

One of my least favourite aspects and a very slow run time overall, i'm still annoyed I didn't get that fight on a good run

[wide wigeon]

maybe I should js do rivals only one time but then again the regular encounters ain't all that difficult even with the fear

[restive ibex]

lowkey zorophet seems really fun, i wanted to mess around with the charon aspect since it seems SO silly

[wide wigeon]

lowkenuinely nergal is fun asl js did the chaos trial

[nova oar]

Axe is my least favourite weapon to play but strength wise it's fine

[restive ibex]

fair

axe and skull are tied for my favorites, i wanna try the shadow ward or whatever its called but i have zero clue how to get my hands on adamant

[nova oar]

Third surface region

[wide wigeon]

do i need to take medea aspect to her to get the chant or no need

[nova oar]

No need

[restive ibex]

god dammit

is the playstyle counter-based or is it more like morphom from h1?

[royal cradle]

I thought hidden aspects were supposed to be strong... why does Anubis suck so much then?

[restive ibex]

guan yu from h1:

[nova oar]

Anubis is very strong

[nova oar]

It's similar to the fists in some ways

[restive ibex]

[nova oar]

Dyno strikes again

[royal cradle]

I don't know about that... no matter which boon I pair it with, it deal garbage damage...

[restive ibex]

i mean both seem to be fisticuffs weapons

[verbal rampart]

What's the specificity of Anubis Staff?

[wide wigeon]

discord noises lmao that was great

[nova oar]

You need to be using pos or hestia attack, and dash charging oattack, or go all in on ospecial

[nova oar]

Wdym

[royal cradle]

Instead of an attack, you get a slow AoE that deal chip damage...

[verbal rampart]

Does the Anubis Staff have a different attack than the regular staff?

[restive ibex]

[royal cradle]

I've been doing just that, but it's still not even close to the damage you get with Momus.

[nova oar]

It's very different yes

[nova oar]

Momus is the worst staff aspect, I'll try and find some of my anubis gameplay

[royal cradle]

That's my point. As far as I can tell, Momus is only the second worst.

Anubis is good against a very large number of weak enemies. But against guardians and bosses, it's useless.

[nova oar]

You're either building or playing it incorrectly

I don't have any clips of me using it, you'd be better off watching a boated guide, but I can tell you rn that anubis is very strong

[royal cradle]

You don't sound very convincing 😄

[nova oar]

?

The aspect has several viable builds, you can go for pos attack king tide/arterial spray, hestia attack pyro technique, or %damage ospecial

[limpid oar]

Anubis worse than Momus? Is this ragebait?

[wise wave]

Anubis attack is like an extra mobile cast. Scorch, blitz, splash are my favourite builds

[minor eagle]

I personally despise anubis but i also admit to being bad at using it

[nova oar]

Blitz and static shock are very good too yea

[limpid oar]

Anubis is just very unique and takes playstyle adjustment

https://youtu.be/AgMdRcTIGIw
It's good trust

[wise wave]

All staffs both deserves S tier weapon

[limpid oar]

Not Momus 😭

[nova oar]

Not momus

[wise wave]

But all hammers on staff are so good

[royal cradle]

Alright I'll have a look...

[glossy shadow]

Fellas

I may or may not have discovered

The "eigenslur"

[tropic ravine]

What is that

[glossy shadow]

The pure essence of slur, capable of cutting any individual to the bone by associating them with a most unfortunate, disfavorable group

The linguistic quintessential slur

[tropic ravine]

[nova oar]

[glossy shadow]

I'm sorry, but I can't bear the burden of clarity alone, how's it going everypuppy?

[nova oar]

Thought it was a good idea to play 62f after a long break and wiped to chronos

[regal fiber]

Hi everyone, nice to meet you all, its a huge pleasure to be here with lots of passionate guys about Hades and Hades II. Recently i got the platinum trophy on Hades and completed all the challanges of the game, but as a Playstation Player i cant play Hades II yet, so i was thinking about waiting for the PS5 release or Playing it on Switch 2 🙂

[glossy shadow]

HEL yeah homie, you got that muscle memory

[nova oar]

Earliest possible ps5 release is November/December

[tranquil wren]

how did you find something worse than everypony

[limpid oar]

Do you have a computer?

[regal fiber]

Oh, i was hoping for summer

[nova oar]

62 is fairly easy except for p2 chronos

[glossy shadow]

I actively challenged myself to it

[glossy shadow]

Some months ago I demoralized myself out of mastering frenzy speed when grampa canceled a scythe swing (that I wanted to dodge) into a slow time into ring of safety, such that the time ran out before mel could be steered out of her dash, p2 chronos I HATE

[regal fiber]

Yes but its very old, and i prefer to play on ps5 or, at least, a Switch

[nova oar]

Yeah rivals chronos is annoying, but i've had frenzy on for over 500 nights, i don't notice it anymore

[split shuttle]

when i play fresh file after getting so used to max frenzy it feels like slow mo

[nova oar]

I get hit more without it

[split shuttle]

it literally feels like phase shift turned on for the entire run

[glossy shadow]

"everypony" has its roots and there's a hint at benevolent doubt beneath The Horrors. There can be no goodwill in "everypuppy" from such origins, and it immediately makes you imagine what kind of person would say that, and it makes you feel like they feel kinship with you. Everything about who you are is actively denied in a single word

Most of all, as with any slur, the eigenslur speaks volumes about the speaker and how they engage with the world around them. Be careful with this cultural technology, because language is a fluid a new quintessence may later develop, maybe a slur equally upsetting to whales or orangutans

[limpid oar]

You can plug a ps controller into your computer and h2 isn't very demanding, I'd give it a go tbh

[regal fiber]

I could try, thanks 🙂

[limpid oar]

Also Steam has the 2 hour refund policy going on so you could just return it if the pc really cannot handle h2

[regal fiber]

Thank you so much, i will definitively try

[limpid oar]

gl! I hope it works out

[limpid oar]

I cannot fight frenzy 0 Chronos, the delayed attacks give me Elden Ring flashbacks

[split shuttle]

aint no way

61f (everything but frenzy) gonna be harder for shade that is cold rather than 67f 💀

[regal fiber]

A little questione... for me, who comes from Hades and not having played the sequel yet... how much has changed in terms of gameplay? I'm talking about both the enemies and the control management

[limpid oar]

I would say it's very different, there's more of an emphasis on crowd control in Mel's moveset

And the fact that you have 1 dash + sprint rather than 2+ dashes changes the way you approach combat

[regal fiber]

In the first game i usually play at 18-32 heat (especually with Coronacht, Exagryph and Malphon), but i've always found the rooms and the boss fight a little unfair (too many traps on field, for example). In Hades II is the game more "fluid" and honest in terms of difficulty?

[hollow crest]

why would you even ask that. just go and play the game, and see for yourself

you're gonna play it anyway

[regal fiber]

Im just curious, but you're right

[limpid oar]

obviously I don't wanna spoil anything to you but yeah I would say there are some ways in which h2's difficulty is more "honest" than h1's

for example with traps || the situations where a trap or lingering projectiles would get you after a fight have been significantly toned down, if not outright removed||

[hollow crest]

i have 120hrs in 1 and 200 in 2. all i can say is Hades 2 is just better in every single way, it's bigger, it's more fun, there's more variety, it's prettier, it's just an amazing f game

[hollow crest]

it's impossible to take damage after you clear an encounter

[regal fiber]

Wow this is so good, thank you

[regal fiber]

Ive seen a lot of video and yes, i absolutely agree... is way more rich, complex, deep and beautiful in its art direction

[hollow crest]

and you still decided to ask in a chat lmao. just go and play the game already

[split shuttle]

uh ||rivals cerberus' arena has lava that can still dmg u after youve beaten him||

[limpid oar]

dani i need to ask, are you from california?

[split shuttle]

||hazard bomb also funnily enough if youve beaten typhon and just decide to cast until you die also damages you and can softlock you from further continuing the game||

[hollow crest]

it's a red hot chili peppers song. and a very popular, sad that you don't know it

and no i'm from ukraine, never been to US

[tranquil wren]

dani california is one of my fav songs

[limpid oar]

oh its okay i cant name a single red hot chilli peppers song, ty for letting me know tho 🙂

[split shuttle]

bro the only red hot chili peppers song i know is californication

[tranquil wren]

listening to snow (hey oh) will change your life, trust 🙏

[hollow crest]

they're really cool, literally changed my perspective on music

i've been obsessed with RHCP for over 2 years, spotify said i was in the top 0.001% of listeners i'm not even exagerrating

definitely listen to the entire Stadium Arcadium album, every single song there is either good or straight up a masterpiece

[split shuttle]

nah im fine

[hollow crest]

why would you rob yourself of discovering new music

[split shuttle]

im too busy locking in for this game

[hollow crest]

that's the lamest excuse ever. your loss

[hollow crest]

Snow is good, but that's it. the songs that ARE a big deal are Dani California, Slow Cheetah, Tell Me Baby, and most importantly Wet Sand. it's their magnum opus, one of the best guitar solos ever, incredibly climactic ending

https://open.spotify.com/album/7xl50xr9NDkd3i2kBbzsNZ

[split shuttle]

why would i need to explain why i dont wanna do something

eh its fine

[hollow crest]

you don't. i just feel sad myself when people don't wanna listen to the best music in the world, or play the best videogames

[limpid oar]

I'll give it a go when I'm next in a music discovery mood, cheers!

[hollow crest]

RHCP popular songs are good too, overplayed but still composed very well. everyone but the vocalist are geniuses in that band

[gusty maple]

A real bullet for the vocalist here lol

[hollow crest]

dudes you actually reminded me of RHCP

i haven't listened to them in so long, oh how much i love them still..

nobody was funkier, and never will

[elfin heron]

and It has apollo

10/10

[knotty umbra]

I Just Love the silver sisters Soundtrack

[safe orbit]

for people who got all the achivements how much time it took u ?

[tranquil wren]

I had 100 hours when I got 100%
But I also played about 40 hours in EA

[elfin heron]

oo nice

im around 70 hours in still got a long way to go- (24/50)

[nova oar]

I did all the acheivments in about 2 hours (after 200 in ea)

[keen cairn]

I need help i cannot unlock the chaos trials below or any randomized.. i have completed pretty much all content and seems to not have yet unlocked it. Im drowning here 😄 Anyone knows the req for it to occur?

[fresh wind]

Is the event where Chronos teleports you to asphodel totally random? Because I stg ive been getting it at like a 70-80% rate my past few runs and its starting to really annoy me lol

[fresh wind]

Okay this is ridiculous, three runs today (one a chaos trial) three trips to asphodel

I feel like I got this encounter like...4-5 times in my first 150 hours and 10 times in my last 5 or so hours

[nova oar]

Yep

[granite garden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1095485376430350449/1459932247661744199/image.png?ex=6965135c&is=6963c1dc&hm=aac89b842beea2198b44a7866e2deff16cf1704c3fa7096a95a49fcd4ca71b13& oh my god

[nova oar]

What's funny is that born gain is the best option here

[granite garden]

wait what

[nova oar]

Both of those duo boons suck, especially without a gain boon

[granite garden]

well damn

[nova oar]

Take born gain, and then incandescent aura if you get it later

[open nimbus]

Incandescent aura can be really good... mirrored thrasher, cardio gain, sworn strike

[mental gulch]

i feel like i am getting the exact same keepsake boons for three runs in a row and im dieing during each one not just reseting the night does anyone know why

[jolly hound]

statistical anamoly

[mental gulch]

dang ok

that seems extremly weird for someone as unlucky as I am lol

[jolly hound]

you mean like, you got attack/special/cast as your options with your first boon three times in a row?

[abstract aspen]

okay so I've got the 3 sands and know I've got to go to olympus but how many times ? I already did 3 runs for 1 clear on olympus and when I attempted chronos mel said "nah I didn't get something from olympus"

[jolly hound]

i think its 8 underworld wins and 5 surface to complete the main story (then way more for epilogue)

[queen cosmos]

GUYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

ssssssss 🐍

[honest oracle]

Snek

[queen cosmos]

I failed miserably on the surface

[honest oracle]

NOOOOOOO

[jolly hound]

try again

[queen cosmos]

Thought I would wreck it with medea

[queen cosmos]

Im lazy :p

[honest oracle]

Medea is tricky. Go Charon 😎👍

[queen cosmos]

Im thinking to delete hades 2 after I got my ass kicked by a boulder

[queen cosmos]

I remember not dying once with it in hell

Also I used some op build with it as well

[jolly hound]

did you take wide grin and realize it's bad

[queen cosmos]

Unfortunately on the surface I spent 2 hours trying to get ephyra right but no matter what

One of the things would always fail

[queen cosmos]

Idk

[jolly hound]

if you want tips on how to improve, plz be more specific lol

medea requires some practice to get the hang of it, i'd recommend button remap if you havent already so you can attack - special faster

[queen cosmos]

I want to say that I can't land my hits on enemies in surface with medea

I always dash past their hitboxes for some reason

ESPECIALLY THE DRAGON ON THE SUMMIT

It seemed he had an dot for an hitbox

[queen cosmos]

I did especially for it

[jolly hound]

and how many runs have you done since remapping? usually takes me like 3 or 4 to get used to a new control setup

[queen cosmos]

This isn't the problem for underground however

[queen cosmos]

Uhh 1st on surface

2 overall

[jolly hound]

yeah, that's your problem. you just need practice. you'll get there 🙂

[queen cosmos]

Thing is

[jolly hound]

possessed array is your friend

[queen cosmos]

I can't process anything of the spam the enemies do on olympus and its summit

Like in one room there were like 8 gatling guns at once

[jolly hound]

yes, because you've attempted it once

[queen cosmos]

Getting bombarded by machine guns from all angles

How tf do I even sprint, I can't

[jolly hound]

o special to get out of tight spots

[queen cosmos]

Everywhere is raining bullets

[queen cosmos]

Its my main attack cuz its medea

But wait you mean omega?

Yeah I don't get time to charge it

One enemy is always gattling bullets

[jolly hound]

the main attack should be the attack-special rhythm game; the o (yes, omega) special is your panic button if youre overrun cause it has a long i frame window

as for boons, zeus special and as big a % increase on attack is teh way to go; best case is hera but aphro and apollo and a rarer Dem will also work

[queen cosmos]

I never get to use omega in any weapon as the enemies ALWAYS hit me before I can even charge it half, and its just not worth it as most of the time my main attack is more devastating

[jolly hound]

im not saying use it as your primary offense, just know its there in case you get overrun

[queen cosmos]

I do ares attack, zeus special and omega automatic bursts but 25 mana cost one hammer

I need these for my build atleast

[queen cosmos]

Thats my problem, I cannot handle chaos, if I sit down for one nano second to charge my omega I immediately get half of my health down

[jolly hound]

so if you run right through the machine gun turret guy, he cant turn around fast enough to keep shooting before you can reposition. you wanna be extremely aggressive

[queen cosmos]

Even with some boons that quicken it

[jolly hound]

medea particularly with possessed array is a glass cannon

[queen cosmos]

Yes its like a radar

But again im covered from all angles

So that guys adjusting himself meanwhile the other is shooting more bullets

ITS CHAOS, WHY IS HADES 2 SO INSANE

[jolly hound]

ok go turn on frenzy 2 and hordes 3, do a few runs, then turn them back off again, it'll feel cozy after that

[queen cosmos]

Olympus and summit is not understandable at all

Also some attacks are like they spawn bullet typhoons around them

Which chronos also has

HOW TF ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DODGE THIS IF YOU DON'T GOT SPACE

[jolly hound]

it's all repititions. you get lit up because you stop moving to panic

[queen cosmos]

To run far away

[jolly hound]

dash has i frames, as does special

[abstract aspen]

oiuytrezsxcvgytrdesxcdezqwxezqwxdfredsxcvgtfvbhjuyhbnjujklolpolopijuyhgfvgtrfdxceszq

[jolly hound]

run right through the bullet fire

[abstract aspen]

wtf

[queen cosmos]

Also there's an attack from prometheus where we need to memorise flame paths, well if your safe spot has flames in between, NO MATTER HOW FAR YOU RUN YOU'LL ALWAYS DIE

[abstract aspen]

I always loose on eris

railgun of my ass

[queen cosmos]

Eris is ok after some runs for me

Typhon idk I wrecked him first try but never can now

[queen cosmos]

I said there are 8 gunners

[jolly hound]

yep, run right through the fire

[queen cosmos]

Its basically bullet hell but the bullets are locked onto you

[queen cosmos]

Where, everywhere I go there's atleast one where its targetted on me

The only way I survived that without losing my last defiance was to find a pillar

Kill one and again go to pillar

[jolly hound]

your problem is that you're panicking, which means you stop moving, which means you get lit up. also you can launch omega attacks over the pillar youre hiding behind

[queen cosmos]

And the summit is just chaos, thing is I can never read enemy attacks there

[queen cosmos]

Its opposite tbh, I move too much and get hit

Because I spam medea to always keep dashing hoping I skip the bullets

[jolly hound]

fair enough. literally there's nothing i can say that'll be more beneficial than just try a few more times

[queen cosmos]

Why does typhon eye boss is so big meanwhile the actual eye is so small?

[jolly hound]

canonically typhon has like, a bajillion eyes

sometimes attached to a bajillion snakes

[queen cosmos]

Why are we even fighting it

WHO CARES OLYMPUS BEING DESTROYED

[jolly hound]

cause he's trying to break down zeus's door and eat him

[queen cosmos]

We'll save like what? 30 seconds of olympus being safe?

[queen cosmos]

Im pretty sure he's behind a door himself

[jolly hound]

youll need lke 5 surface wins to get the end credits

[queen cosmos]

Oh

Isn't zeus immortal

[abstract aspen]

sorry

emotions got the best of me

[queen cosmos]

I see this dyno came to existence after some time

[jolly hound]

its gonna feel amazing when you have a blowout win over prometheus tho

[queen cosmos]

Idk fighting Prometheus feels like fighting my inner self

I explained yesterday

It just feels so cool

[jolly hound]

for now, yes. but think of it like going to the gym; you arent going to squat double your body weight in your first day or even your first year

[queen cosmos]

I always thought titans as massive beings

[jolly hound]

but if you wanna get there, you get 1% better each time you squat, and then in 70 attempts you're twice as good as you are now

same principle here. as for the flame attack, yell it out loud. it's just a two factor authentication code but on fire. you've dealt with two factor authentication codes before

[queen cosmos]

Mhm, eagle with the adamant rail with every single hammer upgrade, mortal kombat champion with blazing hands and an phoenix, father of all monsters, and a sleepy sheep head

[jolly hound]

if you dont believe you can win then you've lost

also based on where you're at right now, i gather you havent leveled medea up very much. level 5 medea is light years better than level 1

[queen cosmos]

Ehem everythings max

And know that I won surface with my very first attempt with everything level 1

AND 1 DEATH DEFIANCE AS CARD WAS LEVEL 1

I still don't know how in the world did I do that

[jolly hound]

Ok, what worked when you did win? The enemies don’t change

[devout atlas]

the laser beam and and bouncy balls i could handle fine but the chin slam was a bit difficult to dodge (Cause my main damage source was the Moonston Axe Omega attack)

[jolly hound]

chin slam is coming after the laser most of the time; hit him while he's lasering then proactively back up. problem solved

o special can hit him from afar too

[raw kraken]

no way turtlemaster is here

wait nvm

[analog sail]

Knocked out my final achievement today!

Chronos complimenting my dress was an excellent reward

[brave gate]

Which dress did you use for the run?

[nimble rivet]

I will never forget the first time I fought Prometheus and Typhon

Supergiant did a phenomenal job with the buildup

[nimble rivet]

I can just... feel chin slam coming

[thorny adder]

Chins slam only happens if you’re really close to him

It has nothing to do with the laser

[brave gate]

I just dodge the chin slam late so I’m safe from the dash’s invincibility frames

[thorny adder]

I usually just sprint away as soon as I get off one of my combos. His AI will do the chin slam a lot if you’re close up, to the point where it’s predictable after some experience

[fresh wind]

The various "???" was such a good touch

[jolly hound]

I’m usually right in his face when he’s lasering but yeah fair enough correlation doesn’t imply causation

[nimble rivet]

I was clutching my forehead in dread the first time I was going through the summit

[brave gate]

I was unfortunately spoiled because before Typhon was added to the game my friend predicted he was gonna be the final surface boss 😭

[analog sail]

The fate fabric one I think

It took 3 attempts and I just took the highest armor value each time

[native thicket]

i hate the eye shot......

[restive ibex]

this low-key was me with Theseus in Hades 1

i hate the guy so it always felt amazing shredding his HP just because i felt like it

[analog sail]

i am going a little bit insane

165 nights and icarus has not unlocked his hearts

ive talked to him twice now in thessaly with his keepsake but he doesnt say anything about it

[hardy depot]

The keepsake doesn't really have anything to do with it, all that matters for a couple of the conversations is that you have a hammer upgrade. The needed dialogues are unfortunately just buried under a bunch of other stuff. Is he still giving you new dialogue?

[analog sail]

yeah

[analog sail]

im going to keep taking it just in case since ive heard otherwise from other people

it doesnt really matter, i dont need anything else from the runs

[hardy depot]

If you want to up his spawn rate and don't mind taking deaths, he has a better chance of spawning if he hasn't spawned in the last 4 runs so you can die in the first room of the surface 4 times in a row, then he's much more likely to show up in Thessaly

[analog sail]

good to know

[final saddle]

Prometheus is crazy hard lol, especially if your build lacks range
Personally I feel like he’s top 3 hardest, possibly beating out Chronos

[sturdy magnet]

I made a mistake by priming too much during my first confrontation with him

[restive ibex]

i haven't even found prometheus yet

i'm still busy getting smacked around silly by chronos

[final saddle]

Fight Chronos like you fought Hades in 1

He’s got big scary moves but he’s not that bad if you play at his pace

The first clear of any boss is always the hardest though, so don’t feel bad if you don’t get him for a while

[restive ibex]

i mean in 7 or 8 runs i got to phase 2 chronos so i feel good about that

literally just hit him with hammers but i didn't have the bulk or the reaction time to survive the second phase

[final saddle]

“Block this overhead granddaughter”
-someone here a few days ago

His phase 2 is like Hades’s phase 2, mostly the same kinda fight with a few extra complications

[restive ibex]

when i was streaming to my boyfriend i constantly went "HAMMERS. NOW." when i was panicking on low HP and trying to proc volcanic strike

[analog sail]

has anyone else gotten 150+ nights in without knowing its possible to have pools of purging between every underworld region or just me

(i dont purge much and apparently it requires 3 boons purged)

[cunning laurel]

you must not even check the purging well for it to take that long lol

[analog sail]

yeah, not unless im extremely conscious of how much i need money

[cunning laurel]

never hurts to check if a useless boon can be purged

[granite garden]

I BEAT PROMETHEUS

STRENGTH IS GOATEDD

[final saddle]

Panicking almost always precedes death in games like this lol

[granite garden]

oh what the hell is this???

[restive ibex]

i mean i got pretty far by just playing evasive and only going in for volcanic strikes with ygnium

[final saddle]

I recommend playing as calm as you can reasonably, and most importantly, ignore your healthbar

[granite garden]

Whenever I panic while playing black coat, I go commit Omega Attack

then again thats only one of the 6 weapons

but still blocking is so overpowere

[final saddle]

Your health should only matter between rooms when making choices on what to spend resources getting

[restive ibex]

i only started panicking truly when i got caught in a sand field and got shredded by a ton of explosive satyr rats and nearly died right then and there

[final saddle]

Look for Hestia or Demeter

[restive ibex]

i had three hestia duos

[final saddle]

Their casts shred groups like that

The most important things to get imo for a cast build are Zeus/Hestia cast method (where you call lightning down/throw a fireball as the cast area), Demeter’s “chill around the cast zone” boon, and then any kind of damaging cast bubble

[granite garden]

WHAT WAS THAT

THERE WAS AN ARM THAT NEARLY CRUSHED ME

[final saddle]

Good luck Kho

[granite garden]

wait I shou;d've censored that

[final saddle]

You’re gonna need it

[granite garden]

what DOES THAT MEAN

[final saddle]

You’ll see

[granite garden]

jesus black coat is so GOATED

EXCUSE ME WHAT

||DID HE JUST BREAK THE HEALTHBAR???||

I... I think I was close

||Zeus Came to help me and I got pass the second spawn... thing???||

[analog sail]

you were somewhere under 40% then iirc

[granite garden]

amn

damn

[final saddle]

I died there too my first go around

Then I swapped to Strength and came back and won

That was still a good run though, imo Surface is significantly harder than Underworld

[safe furnace]

guys, Ive been searching for a ARTBOOK of hades (1 ou 2), is there one??

[restive ibex]

i always go "fireball :D" when i get that from hestia

LMAO

[final saddle]

Hold on, I wanted to send something here, how do I do images again?

[abstract aspen]

why your theseus have a golden mask ?

[final saddle]

Extreme Measures

He gets ||a Chariot and miniguns|| for his boss upgrade while Asterius just gets tougher ||and new shiny armor||

[agile bridge]

do yall prefer fighting ||chronos|| or ||typhon||

||typhon|| feels like im fighting a destiny raid boss because he kind of just sits still and occasionally throws out a projectile

so the big numbers are really satisfying to see

[sharp current]

can someone please tell how to get the silk and spitefulness prophecy? its my literal last achievement and im about go go nuts

[granite garden]

||ARESSS||

||HE'S HERE||

||MY MERCIFUL END GOAT||

||also spinning blades of doom||

||but jesus merciful end will kill||

[agile bridge]

yeah ngl that one was pretty luck based, assuming u have both necessary characters levelled up i would just run erebus and if i dont get it, go to the oceanus, and end yourself on the exploding stuff, if you want to keep your nemesis eye buff for anyone

[agile bridge]

pls spoiler in case someboy hasnt gotten there yet

[sharp current]

the only two i have not maxed are arachne and iqarus

[agile bridge]

but you are correct ||ares|| is the goat do not let ANYONE telll you he sucks asss in this game

[sharp current]

which they have been locked for ages but idk

[agile bridge]

for arachne just like

do the strat i just said and keep looking fr her room

and eventually youll get an exclamation

[sharp current]

i hate spiders irl and arachne made it worse

[agile bridge]

whaaat

irl understandable but arachne is so nice thoo

[brave gate]

You don’t need to spoiler tag that

[agile bridge]

i mean its kind of a "melinoe... on your left" moment isnt it?

[sharp current]

its literally my last achievement and prophecy

[brave gate]

What’s the last bit of dialogue you got related to the Arachne and Athena storyline?

[brave gate]

?

[sharp current]

athena is done but i can just put athena keepsake so i see her every run?

[agile bridge]

and then all the gods come out of the portal to fight thanos

[sharp current]

like i said the only two not maxed and still locked are arachne and iqarus

[agile bridge]

and then melinoe says avengers assemble

[brave gate]

But what was the last thing Arachne actually said related to Athena?

[sharp current]

i dont remember 🙁

[agile bridge]

yess, but keep looking for arachne as well

[brave gate]

Has Melione asked Hecate about her curse?

[sharp current]

if im not mistaken yes

and then arachne came nd spoke with hecate

[brave gate]

Has Melinoë asked Athena about reverting the curse

[sharp current]

i think not

i just spoke with athena and she mentioned nothing about the curse, just that this was a different place from mount olympus

[brave gate]

Have you been doing any surface runs lately? You need to speak with Athena on Olympus for some of the storyline’s dialogue

Without her amulet

[sharp current]

yea i did a lot of runs there till i finished athena

[brave gate]

Yes but recently have you? After Arachne spoke with Hecate

[sharp current]

yea 100%

because that was around 10 days ago and i do at least 10 runs a day

[brave gate]

Okay so you’re probably waiting on Arachne’s dialogue.

She stays upset for a bit but will eventually start talking to Melinoë more.

Then, Melinoë will ask Athena about the curse (you need to be on Olympus)

[sharp current]

can i speak to athena in a trial?

[brave gate]

No

[sharp current]

okay lemme do surface runs till athena comes and see if she says something

what about icarus?

[cunning laurel]

what about him

[sharp current]

it says he is locked because he needs more time to connect or something

[brave gate]

He just takes awhile

[cunning laurel]

just keep talking in crossroads

[brave gate]

Some of his dialogue steps require him to be in the Crossroads while others require you to speak to him in a run

[sharp current]

he just had a dialogue with eris in the crossroads

idk if this is relevant

[brave gate]

I know what you’re talking about. Not sure if it’s just flavor or if it’s a relationship milestone

[final saddle]

Eris

Ez boss fight but she’s just a punk wannabe Megara

[sharp current]

i just got a new prophecy, drowned ambtions

[hexed lion]

Hey guys, what's the best way to go about things everything-wise? Cast ||Disintegration of Monstrosity|| and ||Dissolution of Time|| asap, or should I put it off for some time? About 30 hours in, no relationship maxed out, still missing a lot of other incantations, weapons, prophecies etc. Feels kinda scary, idk why, like there's no way back or something

[brave gate]

Don’t worry, even after you complete the main story with those incantations, you won’t lose the status quo.

You’ll be able to do runs like normal, you won’t be locked out of characters’ stories/dialogue, etc.

So there’s no reason to do it later rather than now. You’ll even get to unlock the final 3 keepsakes afterwards

[hexed lion]

Right, thanks 😄

[brave gate]

No problem!

Death to Chronos 🫡

[sharp current]

but he is a good grandpa

[brave gate]

How do you "prove your worth with the aspect of Selene" to be able to further gift Selene? I've already beaten a run with it

[sharp current]

keep choosing her weapon, when i did it it was maxed weapon tho

[brave gate]

Yeah I've had it maxxed for a while

Maybe there's a fear requirement

[sharp current]

100% no

[brave gate]

Maybe I need to beat both an UW and surface run with it. I think I've only beaten an UW run with it

[cunning laurel]

are you talking to her with it on

[jolly hound]

Is it level 5

[brave gate]

yes

[jolly hound]

Did you kill typhon with it

[brave gate]

Have in the past but not since her most recent gift

[brave gate]

No. That's what I'm thinking it is

[jolly hound]

try that

[brave gate]

yuh

[hardy panther]

how do i trigger nemesis fair trades? is there any hidden conditions

[broken creek]

No its just random iirc

[brave gate]

I really dont understand why some wardens are affected by morph but not others

[nova oar]

Wdym

[brave gate]

Some can be morphed while others cant

[nova oar]

Which ones?

[brave gate]

Talos can't be morphed, for one

[red fox]

Idk the rule but i think having hp bar on top mean can't be morphed

[brave gate]

Charybdis tentacles can be morphed

And King Vermin

And others I'm forgetting

[sturdy magnet]

How come Descura is Melinoë's default weapon when in the official cover art, she is depicted with Lim and Oros

[brave gate]

Cause Knives look cooler but a staff is more witchy

[broken glen]

No idea

[sturdy magnet]

At least in H1 Zagreus default weapon was weapon and it was the cover art even in the main title card

[devout atlas]

beat Typhon again

Still struggle at his last stage where all his attacks are just super strong but at least i can consistently beat him finally

[broken creek]

Probably cuz knives sucks buns

And staff plays like h1 sword

[brave gate]

Just start my first random Chaos trial (Great Chaos Below) and my Arcana and Vows make me want to throwup

• Grit3
• Hordes3
• Death + Strength
• No Persistence
• Denial

Oh and Return 1

[sturdy magnet]

I hate this trial

Hubris and Time limit really gave me a bad time

[broken creek]

Thats free asf wdym

Without timer grit3 and hoards3 is kinda funny

[brave gate]

Bro I think you have to realize most people here don't play super high fear and aren't as good at you. And it was also Timer3

[broken creek]

Ok yeah timer3 is mean

If you said timer3 before I would've said it's tragic 🥀

[hardy panther]

any tips for rivals hecate

[broken creek]

Don't be afraid to just back off

Also shes like somewhat scripted if you just damage enough

And when shes in dark side the balls she throws cant hit you through a pillar even though visually they pass through

Getting used to dodging sheep ball is also pretty useful, fridge rush just lets you brain off, I think rare blinding rush can just outrun it, then theres frinos, night bloom can eat it, or just dodge it normally

[cunning laurel]

if they split up with 2 very close together shes almost always the 3rd

[fresh wind]

Why does fig leaf just not go off sometimes? Do you have to correctly guess which room has 0 encounters? I thought you were guaranteed to get one clear room per region

[timid vigil]

No it just doesn't go off sometimes

Cause Dionysus is a troll

[fresh wind]

Oh thats lame

[timid vigil]

Yeah, sucks specially when you're doing Speedrun and you get scammed

[fresh wind]

Yeah im doing speedruns atm lol

Had no idea it worked like thet

That

[crystal forge]

i’m so happy i gave this game a shot

[winter portal]

Im trying to get selenes hidden aspect? That's the moon lady right? I have level 5 in all weapons but she won't give me the final one.

Do I need to wait until she is in camp or something?

[fiery viper]

No she just has alot of dialogue if her aspect is max level she should give you it eventually when you take her boon

[winter portal]

Ok ty 🙂

[crude dragon]

Nope, it's RNG

I regularly call it the scam leaf for a reason

[nimble rivet]

It's not RNG. Dionysus is just a massive fraud.

[calm flicker]

From a gameplay standpoint, why does Heracles show up in Thessaly & Olympus? I know he has to show up (in most runs) to provide a source of gold region 1, but gold rewards show up in region 2 & 3.

[crude dragon]

So if a surface speedrun gets Fig Leaf and Heracles jumpscare in Thessaly pre-encounters, do they just reset?

[crude dragon]

Suppose the main reason would be for the timer pause, TBH

[broken creek]

Why not, gold whenever is still gold plus timer pause is great

[brave gate]

Gold is always good.

It would also be extremely annoying to build relationship with him if he could only show up in one region and never the Crossroads

[calm flicker]

Icarus shows up in Olympus too.

...After the main campaign.

[brave gate]

There’s still enemies attacking Olympus after the main story

[calm flicker]

Aren't you complaining about how slowly the player is able to build affinity with Icarus?

[brave gate]

No? I was saying that if Heracles only showed up in Ephyra that it’d be really annoying to build relationship

[calm flicker]

Oh? Why'd you mention the Crossroads then?

[brave gate]

Because if he only showed up in one region and no where else it’d be annoying 😭

[sturdy magnet]

Like how Thanatos first appeared in Elysium. Sometimes appeared in Asphodel or Tartarus.

[brave gate]

Guys all I’m saying is that if you’re only able to talk to a character in 1 out of 8 of the game’s regions, along with not being able to talk with them at the Crossroads, it would be annoying to raise relationship.

[calm flicker]

I don't think that's such a good argument when all the seeds that spawns Heralces in region 2 & 3 can just be moved to region 1.

At any rate, Heracles showing up in region 2 & 3 is for story reasons.

[brave gate]

No because they want to keep runs more unique. They don’t want him showing up in the same place too often. Also, more Heracles in Ephyra means less Artemis

[calm flicker]

I just thought it's really cool for the player's main source of gold to be not from gold rewards in rooms, but from a helper NPC.

But Heracles spawning in region 2 & 3 kind of throws a wrench in that design.

[brave gate]

How though. He’s still a source of gold in Ephyra

Additionally, you also can get gold from side rooms, Hermes, and Medea

[calm flicker]

In a vacuum, it's slightly redundant for Heracles to provide gold when the rooms do provide gold.

[brave gate]

You can always use more gold. I wouldn’t say it’s redundant. That’s like saying the trial statues, infernal troves, and gold pots are redundant

[calm flicker]

Like I said: in a vacuum & "slightly". Obviously, providing the player varying amounts of loot between runs is par for the course for a rogue game.

I just liked the idea of a singular, unique helper NPC per region, is all.

And the idea that region 1's primary source of gold isn't from room rewards, but Heracles!

End conclusion.

[analog sail]

Icarus can show up in Olympus, right? That's not a one time thing?

[storm glen]

yes

[storm glen]

the helper would need to give you so much

[calm flicker]

Why? It's not like the mini rooms in Ephyra are guaranteed to provide 30 gold, let alone 100.

[storm glen]

... wait isnt heracles already the main provider of gold in ephyra anyway

[analog sail]

The medea one that makes enemies drop gold is also good for it

[restive ibex]

just got my first chronos kills back to back

first kill i just unloaded the skulls like a gatling gun and the second time i literally just beat him to death with hammers

[tropic ravine]

Nice

[wide rampart]

Any idea if the devs will add more content to the game

[crude dragon]

Almost certainly not

[long forum]

Hades 1 never got dlc i believe? Most likely wouldnt be seeing it or not at all till a long time

[hardy panther]

Can you backstab Typhon

[red fox]

Technically yes

Blade special backstab it when it return

[hardy panther]

Ah okay so trick blades should be pretty nice

[broken creek]

Trick knives is just the best knives hammer period

Makes any of em into an immediate top weapon

[slate nimbus]

Can anybody clarify how to forge a bond with Heracles? Spoilers in what I already did: ||I beat him twice in the bond of rivals now. Spoke to him a couple times after that. I assumed bearing him once would unlock that final heart but it didn't||

[pale pier]

He was the character I had the most trouble bonding with (Icarus too). Unfortunately, this is all rng, you just gotta keep encountering him and wait.

You have to trigger a conversation with him and that is all rng 💔

[slate nimbus]

That's annoying. He just leaves when I encounter him now. No specific fear requirement for it?

Same for me with Icarus actually. Just doesn't progress any further

[nova oar]

Just keep doing rivals, Icarus you need to talk to medea

[honest tulip]

I've got a 2 page spread in my sketchbook with Chronos on the left and typhon on the top third on the right... who do I put under Typhon? I didn't really think through the fact that he's a landscape and well... he doesn't take much space in a vertical page so now I gotta put something under him lol.

[robust roost]

guys anyone having achievement issues?

i need some big help on that

ive compeleted a big part of it but still no achievements popping up

should i just start from a fresh save

[honest tulip]

Like steam achievements? Idk if hades is on anything else

[robust roost]

sadly is epic

it is :D

[honest tulip]

Idk about epic. Make sure it has wifi? I think steam at least needs to verify wifi to give you achievements

[robust roost]

like im on wf,ive tried sycing it often but nothing worked

i think im gonna start a fresh save or somethin

i maxed out hades 1

i need hades 2 too

u guys got any other ideas i couldnt find any solutuon

[hexed lion]

Is there a prophecy for "Dressed to Kill" or is that only a steam achievement? I got the achievement, but lost the fight and no prophecy popped up, just wondering 😄

[robust roost]

problalby just needed to get into the fight for it winning isnt necessary i guess :D

[hexed lion]

I was just expecting there to be a prophecy as well I guess, but shouldn't matter since I got the achievement 😄 unless they were expecting someone to be so talented as to lose the fight 🤣

[nova oar]

Just the achievement

[honest tulip]

But yeah I've already done melenoë dionysus and scylla

[robust roost]

so i send out a bug report

by f10

hope it helps have a good day guys<3

[abstract aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/918472938443911252/1460200197153095853/image.png?ex=69660ce8&is=6964bb68&hm=7a957bbfb893ce647915eecc32c85b5f0dca7f3eb7978bc850dc368eb0207883&
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I like the fact that ||prometheus nearly did as much as damage as typhon||

[honest tulip]

Harpy Raptor 😭

Anyway yeah I think I'm gonna draw him

[nova oar]

Which acheivment?

[slate nimbus]

It's a prophecy you have to unlock first

[slate nimbus]

It gives me the achievement without internet connection too

I did a bunch on the plane

[nova oar]

Oh is it?

It's been so long since I finished them all

[hexed lion]

Cause I had the dialogue with Arachne a long time ago, and I already completed the Chaos Embryo thing (both the achievement and prophecy) after not having the prophecy unlocked, and it counted as completed 😄

[slate nimbus]

I am not allowed to send pictures?

Anyway it states that quite literally in the achievement description on steam. "Fulfill the prophecy"

[hexed lion]

True actually, but as I didn't have the prophecy yet, it not appearing after both having had the Arachne dialogue and completing it is very inconsistent compared to the Chaos Embryo one, where I didn't have it either, but it completed itself alongside the achievement for it

[nova oar]

No image or embed perms in this channel

[slate nimbus]

Ah ok

[hollow jetty]

I'm sorry but I must ask. Who is the biggest smash in hades II

[robust roost]

the statues and some other

[robust roost]

medea

[nova oar]

Have you completed the fear requirement?

[robust roost]

yeah ive opened two of them

[queen cosmos]

....... Stfu, why can't I live anywhere without seeing some related guy's face 🙄

[robust roost]

and for the mission part (the paper in the middle yk) ive even collected the reward but still no achievement

[robust roost]

you got a solution?

[nova oar]

I'm confused as to what you're stuck on

Is it nights champion and the second statue?

[robust roost]

no no

ive done them

but the achievements dont pop up no matter what

[nova oar]

No clue then

[dry whale]

I do not like shiva coat

🫠

[nova oar]

Too bad cause I love it

[dry whale]

🥲

[hollow jetty]

Uuu

[dry whale]

Circe

[hollow jetty]

Shes a cutie patootie i love her

[nova oar]

Noone talking about my twinky gay boy icarus

[hollow jetty]

Na hermes all the way

[dry whale]

Na dionysus

[hollow jetty]

I had a feeling someone gonna say him

[dry whale]

Or polyphemus 😁

[hollow jetty]

You like being handled dont you

[dry whale]

Shhhhhh

Its his voice

[hollow jetty]

Understandable

[hollow jetty]

Icarus is my second pick

[glossy shadow]

Luv nem, worship eris

Ripples upon the void, mother to us all 😌

[hollow jetty]

Eris is so in love with melinoë istg

[glossy shadow]

I love to dance with my wife

[hollow jetty]

Who

[glossy shadow]

Eris!

In the old old days, long before the advent of language

You tell me how grandma Gaia would have flirted with ouranous

[hollow jetty]

Melinoë is the most shipped with nemesis? I dont see it

[glossy shadow]

There should be nem events with fade to black and dialogue about it. They should introduce it on a surface run, nem an honored guest secreted under the sky by Aphrodite working with selene

Maybe dialogue from chronos about how Mel's hair is messy if you got a cuddle session on the way down

[sudden eagle]

Which weapons greatly benefit with button remapping? I sometimes struggle with staff and torches but I'm not sure whether it's worth learning over.

[nova oar]

I play all aspects just fine with default controls

[viscid seal]

I really hate vow of rivals typhon

Why they decided to add that final phase just confounds me

[slim pike]

To ask if you can actually dodge

[strange oar]

this game slaps so hard

[nova oar]

It's so funny

[dull tendon]

Lost a run because the Switch controllers disconnected 💔

[broken creek]

And then put one of the worst projectiles in his fight in it

The what's basically a frag grenade the size of half the arena is dubious work

[nova oar]

It's not that bad at the end

[broken creek]

Tell that to the guy that was 1% off of clearing 67 with mel skull and died to it 🥀

[slim pike]

Frinos is such a traitor here

[nova oar]

😭 😭 😭

[slim pike]

what's funny is that the sweeper beam can "damage" Chronos and he responds to that

as if you're trying to hit him while he's invulnerable

[gusty maple]

Skill test

"Ok you have big dps, but can you dodge that ?"

[fresh wind]

For me it was a "do you still have 4 DDs test"

I dont think I dodged anyrhing 😭

[slim pike]

it's really not that hard to dodge things

don't be afraid to leave the circle if you need to

[cedar tide]

What does heartthrob do. Cuz I still don’t really understand it

[slim pike]

it's an orbiting bomb

if it touches an enemy, it explodes

you can have up to 6 max, and they last like... 5 seconds each?

[raw patrol]

BRUH

I WAS HAVING A SOLID RUN OF GCB

AND CHAOS DECIDES TO HAND ME THE DAMN ANTLER

[nova oar]

Lucky

[raw patrol]

I DIED 😭

[nova oar]

Unfortunate

[raw patrol]

i hate chaos

[slim pike]

THE HEAVY IS DEAD

wait, wrong meme.

[split shuttle]

it should've been me not him

it's not fair

[timid vigil]

Thats lucky

[raw patrol]

wtf yall 😭

is this an inside joke im not used to

[split shuttle]

bro we all like antler in this server

[raw patrol]

bruh

i hate antler 😭

[split shuttle]

hopefully u change ur mind

we need more antler pilled players here

[timid vigil]

i just did a gcb run and i wish i had antler

and origination...

chaos is such a troll

[raw patrol]

origination is based

[split shuttle]

scorch and blitz are curses tho

or did u mean u didn't have the card

[timid vigil]

the card

[split shuttle]

ah

how unfortunate

[raw patrol]

attempting another gcb

istg if i get antler one more time

[split shuttle]

antler is goated idk what to say

[raw patrol]

ok

fortunately i started with mel fists

2nd reward is hammer and exhaust riser would slappppp

I GOT EXHAUST RISER

CHAOS GAVE ME 13 VOWS WHAT

[hollow crest]

i don't understand how to fight Rivals Eris

her attacks are so weird. what are these balls she summons, they don't detonate on themselves. tried to run through i insta died

[split shuttle]

uh youre supposed to detonate them yourself by attacking them from far away

also if u ever played hades 1 thats the aspect of lucifer shes wielding

[raw patrol]

wait

what balls

oh rivals eris nvm

[native bramble]

i might be wrong, but it seems that if you rarify a boon from a god, then their keepsake ranks up, you can rarify another one of their boons

[split shuttle]

yeah thats how it works

[native bramble]

thats pretty cool i gotta say

[jolly hound]

it only works twice but yeah, super useful

The keepsake level up duo boon will also refill keepsake charges when applicable; particularly useful on calling card

[native bramble]

oh thats pretty cool

[fresh wind]

For the love of god SGG

Put an auto-lose button in Hades 3

Or generate an entirely new seed with undo night

Makes speedrunning such a pain

[jolly hound]

There’s the acceptance of another fate incantation, is that not sufficient?

[fresh wind]

Oh is that what thats supposed to do? I remember unlocking it but had no idea how you actually utilized it

But also like...even then

[crude dragon]

Yes, and you salute the Oath to reroll

[fresh wind]

Just put "end run" in the menu

Set Mel's DD and health to 0

Disagree with locking it behind a late game unlock that they then dont really explain too well in game

[crude dragon]

Wouldn't that mess with seeded speedruns?

[fresh wind]

Im not really sure how ending the current seed would mess with orher seeds

[timid vigil]

no because otherwise it would invalidate seeded runs

[fresh wind]

I dont see the logic there. So if I decide my run sucks and decide to stand in lava for 2 minutes is that also invalidating seeded runs

[timid vigil]

no

but if "Undo night" reseted the seed how would you make a seeded run

[crude dragon]

No, but changing the "Undo Night" to being something that rerolls your seed would

[fresh wind]

I mean not changing the undo night feature makes sense

[jolly hound]

Undo night, fate altered does exactly what you want it to, without harming your win loss record

[timid vigil]

the acceptance of another fate incantation being late game and kinda hidden makes sense, its a mechanic that will only confuse 90% of the playerbase who doesn't even understand the concept of seeds

[fresh wind]

Not having the third option of "end current run" or "give up" in the menu is what I disagree with

[crude dragon]

As for the seed reroll being locked behind the epilogue, that makes sense, since why the hell would you be speedrunning before you have all the tools you want for it maxed out?

[jolly hound]

I routinely undo night/reroll seed when I draw howling soul from my jpom, what you want exists but not quite in the way you want it to

[timid vigil]

i'll say something, i wish "undo night" bumped you directly back into the crossroads instead of the main menu, no reason not to, only thing i can imagine is that maybe it would be a bit of a pain to code depending on how they programmed the game or maybe some other limitation

[fresh wind]

Im partially speedrunning to get all the fish I need faster

I fully understand my times arent as good as they could be because I dont have some late game stuff

Specifically the 27 fish for the greatest Gaia gift

Also bc speedrunning is fun?

[unkempt zodiac]

Rerolling seed is fun casually too to get specific starter boons. And it takes a while to get epilogue. Many hours, and toward the end of that many players kinda just want the game to go faster

[fresh wind]

Strange question

[jolly hound]

The fish you are lacking are in all likelihood further down in the game, rerolling seeds wouldn’t really make that go faster

[unkempt zodiac]

Rerolling seed probably increases how long it'll be until you fish

[fresh wind]

Im not interested in "re-rolling" seeds im just interested in ending them

[unkempt zodiac]

Does the save and quit until you get the right fish strategy work still

[native bramble]

just managed to beat prometheus without dying for the first time, aspect of moros stronk

[cyan wren]

I just got the prophecy for voice and vanity, the wiki said I need a specific interaction with ||nemesis|| any idea how close I am to finishing this quest or how to speed it up

[jolly hound]

he knew you’d beat him

[jolly hound]

just keep visiting nic cage it’ll happen eventually

[native bramble]

also managed to beat typhon while only dying once, which is a lot better than i usually do

[cyan wren]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-cat-gif-26552422

rip my tired cat gif

[raw patrol]

I JUST BEAT TYPH IN 65 SECONDS

#h2-victory-boasting guys go check out this nasty build i got

[umbral glacier]

what is the "basic effect" of a keepsake? Echo's "gift gift gift" lets you keep it after switching a keepsake

[final saddle]

What’s the wording of that?

[umbral glacier]

just says "After you switch keepsakes, also gain the basic effect of: [keepsake name]"

[final saddle]

I’d imagine it’s just keep whatever passive effect was on your old keepsake

Like, the Luckier Tooth would keep your extra DD or Bones would keep your boss dmg resist (I’m assuming)

[umbral glacier]

so things that dont require you to press a button? Like, with silken sash i still get the 30 armor and +4 per location

[calm flicker]

I wish the Obols in Charon's axe actually fit the slots. I also wish the coins were sharpened.

[merry whale]

rank 1 keepsake

so once u switch keepsake in tart, u'll get a copy of ur fields keepsake at rank 1 for tart as well

i don't believe gift gift gift works with cherished heirloom so it's always rank 1

[restive ibex]

am i the only one that gets domed by the Vermimancer when i fight it 😭

or. err. anything with rats for that matter

[mortal dragon]

rats are easy

[final saddle]

Uh Oh is a problem, but the Satyr in Tartarus is not that bad, just drop an aoe thing

[mortal dragon]

remember ur abc

[final saddle]

Always Be Casting?

[mortal dragon]

Exactly

Mel’s cast is so much better for dealing with small fast little guys, even at baseline

[restive ibex]

my two most recent runs i just unloaded my skulls on the satyr and then killed him with hammers

[final saddle]

The buff guys from H1 always throw me off in H2

I never expect them to dash at me suddenly lol

[mortal dragon]

Yeah that elbow drop is deadly

[mortal dragon]

by hammers you mean Heph cast?

[restive ibex]

level 10 heph cast

though heph attack is just as funny

wait no, it was heph cast and level 10 heph special

[final saddle]

I like Heph’s boons, but I gotta use his keepsake more

For now I almost never take his main boons for how slow they are

[median plinth]

people take something other than jpom?

[tropic ravine]

Wdym

[tranquil wren]

jpom is super fun, basically

[hallow loom]

I do!

Send me a dm

[jolly hound]

until you’re running jpom, heph is a tough sell tbh

heph pro tip; if you’re running jpom, have heph in god pool and are sans an attack/special boon after first boss, calling card in second biome and get a heroic heph attack/special with it

[median plinth]

responding to Lion's comment about "gotta use [heph's] keepsake more." Ever since I got jpom it has been the only keepsake I start with

[restive ibex]

i wanna ask how you get jpom but i feel like that's spoiler territory

i felt actually kinda bad when Hades politely rejects the nectar

[jolly hound]

Once you beat the game it’s available pretty quick

[restive ibex]

"beat the game" as in the storyline or killing chronos for the first time

[timid vigil]

story

[restive ibex]

makes sense

i feel like after killing chronos i should work on surface stuff, but ion know how to survive longer yet

[tribal wharf]

Keep going up

[tropic ravine]

Ohhh, and yeah me too it’s so op

[tropic ravine]

Are you using strength or death defiance?

[tribal wharf]

Going up and figuring it out earlier is probably better (or at least more fun) as surface has access to resources underworld does not

[restive ibex]

both

[broken glen]

There’s a lot of upgrades locked behind surface

[tropic ravine]

Ohhh you should pick one of the 2 because they cancel each other out but if you’ve played alot I reccomend turning of death defiance

[restive ibex]

i've only gotten far enough to get moss and bronze

[tribal wharf]

Rest assured that they did not arbitrarily make the surface some sort of Hell Mode

[tropic ravine]

Trust me strength is op

[restive ibex]

i'm 90% sure they don't

[tropic ravine]

Strength needs no death defiances to work

[gusty maple]

I'm 100% sure they do 🙃

[restive ibex]

death defiance gives me security for harder fights and strength kicks in when those charges pop to get me to finish the fight

[gusty maple]

Ah yeah I guess that works

[tropic ravine]

I mean it’s your game but that’s what I reccomend 🤷‍♂️

[crude dragon]

They 100% do cancel each other out

[tropic ravine]

Atleast try it out for one run or two

[final saddle]

I heard that’s post credits

[restive ibex]

death defiance + strength is what got me to kill chronos

[tribal wharf]

Strength only works when you have no DDs

[restive ibex]

[crude dragon]

Okay, that makes it a crutch. That doesn't make it smart or good