h2-discussion

[fast kestrel]

ok good im not insane yet

[tranquil wren]

I still watch the encounter on youtube every so often

[meager elk]

Good morning hades gen chat

[broken creek]

How do you access the new ending actually?? I need to play through it still

[tranquil wren]

check #announcements

[thin laurel]

good morning!

[broken creek]

Ok sick

[fast kestrel]

replay through the entire game

[thin laurel]

you missed some very...... interesting emoji reaction trends while you were asleep. it's been a time

[meager elk]

That pregnat man emoji is all the context i need

[thin laurel]

exactly

[devout cairn]

i feel like the guy writing hades 3 fanfic was an important part of the equation too

[exotic lynx]

im that guy lets keep cooking

so one unique thingy about medes and pegreus is that they have potential in sciencie and engineering but prefer to do the opposite of what they are really good for ;but when it comes to helping between each other they unleash their full potential best example is 5K3L3TRON which pegreus built all by himself , he actaully spent months on his own lab just for his sister

[sick night]

i really wish undoing night reset the seed, it not only makes it too easy but also makes it so you have to die to get a new seed

[thin laurel]

only pre-epilogue
post-epilogue you get an incantation to reroll your seed

[sick night]

like infinitely?

[tranquil wren]

yeah

[exotic lynx]

so imagine the reaction when your brother or sister gets kidnapped

[thin laurel]

essentially, yeah. you can reroll seed, look at room one, give up, reroll seed again
idt it'll let you do it twice in a row without starting a run or leaving the room and re-entering, but it's infinite with a lil effort

[sick night]

WAIT ||NYX IS NEMESIS' MOTHER?||

[nova oar]

Done sub9uw all aspects

[sick night]

im reading this line of dialogue dont skull emoji me :(

[tranquil wren]

get skulled

[sick night]

get skilled issued

scald emoji

[nova oar]

How do people record their runs

[tranquil wren]

alt z with nvidia or steam record with ctrl f11

[meager elk]

I feel like im missing context. I just mentally flashbanged myself by reading this

[sick night]

skelly issued

[devout cairn]

big skull emoji moment

[thin laurel]

ooh I didn't know steam had a built in way to record
I've been using OBS but it's being weird and glitchy lately

[tranquil wren]

or windows + g for gamebar

[exotic lynx]

basically when the alyconeus cutscene would ocurr whoever is in the archeological site will call for help only for the call to be destroyed; and after that there will be another timeskip where the character you choosed will pan out with anger on his eyes only for a year to pass by (news spread everywhere about a giant emerging out of nowehre confirming their existence destruction all alaround the archeologial site etc etc, only to get presented to our main character with the 5W0RD suit of their coresponding mode and go straight to an attacked city

[thin laurel]

i.e. specifically it offsets the recording like an inch down and to the left so I can't see my hp bar...

[tranquil wren]

yeah it's pretty cool, you can enable it in the settings somewhere

[devout cairn]

i think there's an hour worth of this by now

[nova oar]

mkmk

[thin laurel]

lucid gain dream about hades 3 plot ideas, content ongoing

[thin laurel]

thinking of submitting one? aiming for that shiva record? 👀

[exotic lynx]

i feel so honored that people really like the dream i had :D

[nocturne grove]

What is shiva record

[tranquil wren]

when I was doing celeste 1a dashless speedruns I used nvidia's record because it had the highest quality. gamebar was not that great

[nova oar]

Perhaps

[nocturne grove]

As in like highest damage number?

[tranquil wren]

fastest clear time

[thin laurel]

aspect of shiva record on the speedrun leaderboard
since idt any of us are insane enough to try to challenge foolish for the actual world record, but on specific aspects it's less competitive

[tranquil wren]

I might try aspect of charon speedruns :3

[exotic lynx]

something i gotta add; since the gods are petrified the first run will be VERY hard almost impossible since the only god you have available is zeus, since there is something neat on HOW do you contact the gods

[thin laurel]

they're FUN
charon currently has my pb, which surprised me

[tranquil wren]

oh nice!

[languid compass]

White Antler is actually pretty good with the coat

[nova oar]

White antler is good on anything

[languid compass]

I meant to say "The coat is actually pretty good with white antler"

[exotic lynx]

a ritual, that you can do whenever you meet a god for the first time. the first run would involve going to a secluded zone and saying Oh Zeus, Lord Of Thunder hear my call for the vengeance of your world! or something and a statue of zeus would depetrify and a VERY confused zeus would ask who are you and you would explain everything , your borther how the world has changed, the awakening of the giant, etc, and zeus would lend you your strentgh but since youre a regular human his help wpuld be channeled thorugh your suit

[languid compass]

Theres a mod that adds incantations based on your relationship with people, which is simnilar to what you described

[exotic lynx]

this is hades 3

oh nvm that would be even cooler

[meager elk]

I kinda clocked out for the first half of the story but now its getting interesting

[exotic lynx]

and you might be wondering why did pegreus and medes focus on the gods if society was fkind of futuristic? cause of the lineage their lineage was weird and the more they went through the more convinced something was wrong and they actaully doubted if the gods actually existed so they started investigating and what started as a little hobby wnt on to a full on investigation

[covert badge]

maybe its a bit religion-coded?

[nocturne grove]

Is medea the actual speedrun best?

[exotic lynx]

also cool detail on the call for help between the brothers alyconeus speaks DIRECTLY to the brother or sister thats not on the zone like DIRECTLY TAUNTING

[devout cairn]

until proven otherwise

[nova oar]

Steam recording hates me

[exotic lynx]

actually i thought about this but it wouldnt matter since religion doesnt exist since the gods already got petrified and the golden age was ocurring anything meaningful was literally history cause the sayings like blood and darkness or blast stayed but people straight up forgot about the gods or didnt think they were real

and it would make sense like the gods arent doing nothing and theyre nowhere to be seen so pople kinda forgot about them

the thing is since people GENUINELY forgot about the gods and only alyconeus resurfaced he used one of the brothers to transmit a message to all of humanity (the brothers are world-known ) about how the giants always has existed about how the greek gods are a lie but now that they have resurfaced they will destroy everything etc

so people panick and they start fearing and AKNOWLEDING the giants but for a reason that i literally dont know they DONT believe in the gods, maybe he has a power that his words become true??? i dont know but that happens and the other giants depetrify and is subdits holy moly the world is going to die

so basically the giants use one of the brothers to manipulate EVERYONE IN THE WORLD so they think only the giants existed no gods dindt exist what are the greek gods are you crazy?

[devout cairn]

what happens next

[exotic lynx]

a year passes by and remember since the brothers can do ANYTHING for their brother much like pegreus built 5K3L3TRON

he or she starts building the 5W0RD SUIT to beat that gaints butt and also starts investigating the gods because they are the only ones that know about their existence

so after a year the 5W0RD suit is ready the ritual is ready and someones ready to kick alyconeus butt (and also the world is going to hell)

[rocky star]

silly question...do chaos' eyes have a white sclera and a pink center or a pink sclera with a white center?

I'm assuming white center with pink sclera since that's how their little chibi head design looks?

[craggy totem]

I can't really see the detail on the chibi head, but in their current portrait, their main head has pink irises and white sclera. However, they're Chaos, so honestly, their eyeballs probably look however they want at any given time haha

Bring on the like. Indigo and cream sakura patterned eyeballs tbh.

[exotic lynx]

OH SPEAKING OF CHAOS, chaos would be intrigued by the world on how has it changed and how people are unaware of the greek gods influence although they are very chaotic so it is amused

[rocky star]

this is a little more detailed of an image: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/c/ce/Chaos_Bond_II.png/revision/latest?cb=20250619054106

[craggy totem]

I see what you mean in that case! I stand by "whatever they want" but yeah

[rocky star]

That would make sense for chaos

if I could draw better I'd make them with a 6 in one eye and 7 in the other 🗿

[exotic lynx]

ok so basically i want to explain the reaction of all gods when they awake but each one must have a way to get them waked up first off, medes lab or pegreus workshop both are near a zone in which there are a lot of thunderstorms so basically to awaken a greek petrified god, one must do a ritual, simple enought, they also have to do the ritual with their whole spirit (easy for the sister and brother) they want to save the world and avenge their brother sister so.. yeah they will put their whole spirit to it and finally the ritual must be done near a zone related to the god, a zone affected by thunderstorms for zeus, the drake passage for exmaple would be the best zone for poseidon and maybe a volcano for hestia things like that

[nocturne grove]

Does double strike always give you at least 1%

Or does it fall off hard cuz I really wanna make a funny kings ransom set

[exotic lynx]

and some of them would be unlockable as you go in for a run but others need preparation like dionysus which makes you build a rave or a big party

[sick night]

chat, what's up with dora's bath sprite? i didnt notice until i used the bath salts that she had those like claw like things she looks completely different

[exotic lynx]

those are her hands and why not claws

[sick night]

idk 😭

[craggy totem]

Folks, did you know that if there is a Family Dispute as your first potential Olympian boon of the region, Forfeit doesn't affect it? I did not know this. Now I know this.

[neat steeple]

just no hit (post ending spoilers) ||zagreus|| for the first time (like ||5 chambers into Erebus|| no less)
I love 2 second heph special blast cooldown

[exotic lynx]

another thing to note is that both routes would have their own objective the normal route would have you going against alyconeus and the other one would be against porphyrion and the other giants helping him

[neat steeple]

wait i just found out your hex can become godsent if you get a boon from the hex's respective god after obtaining the hex

[craggy totem]

Yep! Otherwise Selene would be shafted.

[exotic lynx]

and since you are the only one knowing where alyconeus resides (the archeleogiucal site) you would be alone when fighting him except the gods would help you

[stoic urchin]

hangover counts for origination, right?

[covert badge]

yes

[fast kestrel]

Man every time I see Nemesis I get sad cause I cant use her busted aspect in this game 💔

[shrewd geyser]

at least she can

[junior hollow]

who is "seek to know he who is our emissary"? for the epilouge quest

[meager elk]

||Moros||

[junior hollow]

thanks

[surreal plinth]

I know I'm not the only one struggling with ||Melinoe, Find Us||, but I'm so confused and frustrated.

||I understand that I need to pop the keepsake in three consecutive combat rooms in oceanus, then die, but no matter what I try or how many times, it doesn't seem to trigger. I've tried popping it three times, then letting myself die in the next room, nothing. I've tried popping it three times then letting the third one run out, nothing. I've also tried both methods multiple times in normal runs and in the trial of doom, all to no success. I even watched a video of someone else doing it, and they seemed to have done the exact same 3-pops then die in the next that I've already done, which confuses me even more why it wont trigger.||

I just don't understand what I'm doing wrong, if anything, or why the event isn't triggering for me. If anyone has any helpful advice I'd appreciate it.

[neat steeple]

admittedly I've only done it once but what worked for me was:
||enter encounter, pop keepsake, save myself. enter encounter, pop keepsake, save myself. enter encounter, pop keepsake, save myself. enter encounter, die, win||
||all of my encounters were back to back rooms, no non-combat rooms in between||

[craggy totem]

It sounds like you're doing everything correctly. (The first method you mentioned is what I did, in a normal run.) Is this on the preview branch?

[surreal plinth]

this is on the live-patch

I thought I was doing everything correctly as well, hence my confusion and frustration XD

[devout cairn]

u do have the "Melinoe, Find Us" prophecy listed, right?

[surreal plinth]

I do

[devout cairn]

welp i'm all out of ideas

no death defiances?

[surreal plinth]

no DD, running strength to expedite the process

[timid radish]

can u reroll circe boons

[neat steeple]

you cant reroll any of the npc rewards

[nocturne grove]

is profile1.sav my save file?

just having that should be fine right

[neat steeple]

has the ||circe permanently kill scylla|| prophecy new in the preview or had she just decided to never give it to me in 170 hours lol

[surreal plinth]

I think it's just luck. I'm 120 hours in and I just got the prophecy earlier today. Live-patch.

[frank eagle]

I got it pre patch

[shrewd geyser]

Yeah that one was hella late game for me

[frank eagle]

Circe relationship is very annoying and luck based. By far the most annoying character in the game to max relationship with. At least by my experience

[neat steeple]

I had ||met the fates|| and done many runs after and she still hadnt given it to me

[surreal plinth]

could possibly be some fear requirements for it, I've done all the night's champion challenges, don't know if it affects anything or not

[shrewd geyser]

She was the last one I maxed too, just seems rarer than others and has weird requirements

[frank eagle]

I got it before that

[surreal plinth]

there you go

[frank eagle]

I doubt sg would lock a relationship quest behind maxing fear

[neat steeple]

I thought i maxed everyone but now y'all got me questioning it since i have no recollection of doing it-

[shrewd geyser]

Keepsake time

[surreal plinth]

not maxing, but perhaps a certain level

[neat steeple]

ok no I checked I do have her maxed (and have for a while im pretty sure)
my last one was arachne

[frank eagle]

I did a run where i deliberately unlocked every arcana and got it afterwards but idk if that did anything

[granite viper]

Is there any way to undo nmemesis trade. accidentally traded born gain for gold

[neat steeple]

By the time she gave me it I had almost everything in the game unlocked and maxed already (was only missing arachne bond and not all keepsakes were rank 3)lol

[nova oar]

No

[neat steeple]

sorry for your loss

[slate flame]

Does born to win have to be the entire run? Or can I use pom first, then switch to embryo then bring it to chaos?

[granite viper]

God thats so dumb. Nemesis is such a stupid character who tries to play victim

[frank eagle]

Lmao nemesis refusing

[neat steeple]

the whole run

[nova oar]

You clicked the wrong button lmao

[slate flame]

Damn, guess I'm turning off fear. Thanks

[neat steeple]

gl

[nova oar]

No ai was used in this game

Why didn't you turn down the offer?

What? They replaced her with another VA

[granite viper]

it didnt give me enough time

[nova oar]

There is no time limit

[little frost]

bro 😭

[meager elk]

bruh ?

[granite viper]

I was just tryna skip her dialogue since all she does is whine. such a lazy character

[nova oar]

You have any proof of this or are you raging cause it's a skill issue

[slate flame]

What are you talking about, she tried siccing the fan base on sgg. Very unprofessional behavior imo

[frank eagle]

In the settings menu: "THIS GAME WAS INTENTIONALLY MADE BY HUMAN BEINGS. NO GENERATIVE AI WAS USED IN THE CREATION OF ITS ARTWORK, VOICEOVER, OR ANY OTHER CONTENT."

[granite viper]

old athena va literally complained about it

[nova oar]

That's your fault then, not the games

[unreal temple]

Hey, Athena VA here, that's not true

[nova oar]

Where, give me a link

[granite viper]

sure bud, and i work for microsoft

[unreal temple]

My condolences

[nova oar]

Are you?

[unreal temple]

No lmao

[nova oar]

You've provided no proof of this

No other source or person here i've ever seen say smth like this

[frank eagle]

A good indicator that this game doesnt use ai is that it works

[little frost]

real asf lmao

[granite viper]

I've already had glitches happen where interact button took forever to pop up on things, and dying dead center in chronos safe zone. All only happening after 1.0

[nova oar]

Any clips/screenshots of this?

[hybrid birch]

I’m sure you have

[granite viper]

https://bsky.app/profile/marinmmiller.com/post/3likgdz5k722f

[nova oar]

Says nothing about ai

[hybrid birch]

I’m not bootlicking, just weird when I or anyone else has had these problems

[nova oar]

Noone is acting like that, you're just spouting false info

The game does have a few bugs here and there but overall it works fine

Regardless of the behaviour of the company, that's not our place to discuss here

Who knows lmao, you can't know what the discussion was about either

[hybrid birch]

You.. did that?..

[nova oar]

It was a joke lmao

[hybrid birch]

I’m confused

[unreal temple]

I did that but personally I was just making fun of you

[frank eagle]

Do you have any evidence other than a single va message that doesnt even mention what you were talking about

[nova oar]

AS A JOKE

[granite viper]

"just a prank bruh"

[devout cairn]

not cool insulting people's appearance!

[little frost]

plus doesnt that just mean sgg didnt wanna sign due to their in house talent or smth so they dont get penalized if they take non-union contract work? i cant remember all the details tbh

[hybrid birch]

Hell I’ll take that as a compliment 😂

[regal gorge]

I was just gonna come in here and make a Principal Skinner joke like "Am I just bad tonight? No, it's Strength that is bugged, clearly" but I feel like Troy walking into the apartment on fire

[craggy totem]

Ignore the trolling and make your joke

[meager elk]

bro all you did was misclick on nemesis' interaction dialogue

[nova oar]

This has nothing to do with the game tho it's just your opinion on something that probably didn't even happen

[slate flame]

What are you even doing here if you're accusing sgg using ai? I'd assume you wouldn't want to support companies that you think are using ai?

[meager elk]

you can use the gold to buy more boons from charon 😭

[unreal temple]

He'll never recover from losing born gain

[little frost]

does nemi taking gain boons imply she can use magick

[slate flame]

Lucid gain better anyway🔥🔥🔥

[devout cairn]

most sane born gain fan

[meager elk]

best boon of all time fr

[craggy totem]

Every time people type "born gain" all lowercase like that I misread it for "born again" for a hot sec.

I would attend the megachurch of Hera out of gawking curiosity if nothing else 🤔

[neat steeple]

idk but regardless it's funny when she asks to buy magick regen boons or "when you use magick" type boons from me (and then runs to the room with max magick upgrade reward)

[devout cairn]

after the whole bayonetta thing im ignoring all VA drama, companies and VA can solve those things between each other idc as long as I spot no AI

[craggy totem]

Maybe she takes the boon and mashes it all up into pure divine essence and EATS it.

[unreal temple]

Born again sounds like the type of gain Chaos would give you

[hybrid birch]

Are you alright?.. serious question. I hope you are but you seem angry.

[devout cairn]

bro he went quiet dont bring him back

[little frost]

chaos does offer "revival" as one of the blessings

[craggy totem]

Is this just because of the Born to Win prophecy....

[neat steeple]

he lost born gain i dont blame him /j

[devout cairn]

guys just use tranquil gain, it's in the name

[craggy totem]

Booooo tranquil gain

[devout cairn]

you will have no crash outs

[meager elk]

aether gain

[frank eagle]

What really happened is the athena va had to step away from the project for a while because of the sag afra strike. Hades 2 isnt union game, so she couldnt work for them during the strike. This stopped being an issue when the strike subsided and nothing actually changed

[little frost]

tranquil gain is awesome

[unreal temple]

Tranquil gain genuinely better than born gain I'm dead serious

[hybrid birch]

Idk, people don’t react like that when they’re feeling okay. Sorry!

[regal gorge]

Since it's now .5s of standing still for over 100% magic, yeah it's pretty good

[craggy totem]

Super duper official correct scientific accurate proper indisputable tier list of gain boons (averaged out between builds/aspects):

• flood gain
• glamour gain
• born gain
• cardio gain
• grisly gain / tough gain / lucid gain
• tranquil gain
• ionic gain

[frank eagle]

To clarify even more, this issue had nothing to do with ai usage, which sgg is very outspokenly against

[meager elk]

maybe the dude wanted born gain for the zeus duo? idk

[slate flame]

Just run away -> stand menacingly in the corner -> jump back into the fray🙏😇

[craggy totem]

Did I adjust any of these rankings based on sheer orneriness? Maybe. You can't prove it.

[meager elk]

uhmm acktually tough gain is actual ass, because just dont get hit

[slate flame]

No lucid gain my goat, this ranking washed

[devout cairn]

ionic gain top 1? weird

[craggy totem]

I forgor

[regal gorge]

Ultimate ego build baby

[unreal temple]

AI tier list

[regal gorge]

AI comment

[craggy totem]

Ever since someone theorycrafted the Brave Face / Tough Gain thing, I have wanted to see it in action

[meager elk]

you cant say that word 💀

[covert badge]

bro im starting to believe chipole is athena's old va burner account or sth 😭

[craggy totem]

Somebody please run it and put up a clip so I can enjoy looking at the synergy

[meager elk]

brave face is duo hera heph?

[devout cairn]

what you using flood gain with

[unreal temple]

Do not underestimate tough gain -1 damage taken

[craggy totem]

This is an averaged out list across different builds (take my word for it)

[devout cairn]

foul list

[craggy totem]

knifecat.png

[tepid finch]

any tips?

[covert badge]

dps burst without much rarity/pom/max mp investment like born, pike torches and possessed love flood

• pos legendary prereq (alts are breaker rush and geyser spout ), pretty handy with pos pan

[fresh kelp]

How does tough gain work?

[little frost]

lucid is like always good now since ur always casting

[devout cairn]

passthetunadowncat.gif

[craggy totem]

1. get hit (but lessened slightly by the boon)
2. get a huge amount of magick for your trouble
   The reason why it might be funny with Brave Face is because Brave Face is "use your magick to tank damage"

[covert badge]

tough is good with incandescent+brave

[fresh kelp]

Ah

[craggy totem]

Do you SEE the VISION. Perpetuum mobile.

[meager elk]

I might run it later after i play dispatch
i will post it later :3

[little frost]

add weak effect for more DR

[craggy totem]

My actual hero. Please ping me and my soul is yours forevermore in recompense.

[little frost]

and dem infusion if you can

it's hard to get all of it but I believe

[meager elk]

✍️
ok im gonna write down what i need
brave face, tough gain, weak

[covert badge]

man i love the bat guy but i cant unhear critikal's voice tone its so crazy i cant fully immerse in the game lmao

[devout cairn]

oh nice someone playing dispatch

[hybrid birch]

Dem and Aphrodite duo is amazing

[meager elk]

true its so immersion breaking 🥀

[devout cairn]

ep 3 and 4 were peak

[hybrid birch]

I’m planning to play it but I don’t want to when it’s not done. I’d just be frustrated lol

[devout cairn]

i like the weekly wait but I get it

[craggy totem]

The build that achieves invulneraMelity

[hybrid birch]

I’m hella excited though, game looks phenomenal lol

[meager elk]

phenomeman reference

[devout cairn]

it's pretty good i hope it's doing well for a new telltale type company to rise

[covert badge]

its giving fallen hero vibe

[hybrid birch]

I mean, it’s literally got a bunch of telltale people, right?

[tepid finch]

NEW EP TODAY???

[devout cairn]

every wednesday

[meager elk]

ep 3 and 4

[devout cairn]

partially i think

[hybrid birch]

Either way, I’m excited af to play it. I just.. also know I’ll want to replay it and see where choices go. That is my main reason for waiting

I wish I could share the hype though 😭

[meager elk]

Some of the choices you make are “the illusion of choice” meme though so keep your hype reasonable

[hybrid birch]

Really?? The reviews I saw said the opposite but I don’t trust reviews much anymore. I knew the QTE’s were pointless but I was under the impression that the choices made a huge difference

[empty bridge]

Trying to wait for the doom effect to proc in Oceanus to do the funny propechy on to get one of those water pigs as the last enemy

[devout cairn]

i dont wanna spoil anything but i'd just wait until all eps are released for a definitive opinion on the choices being significant

[hybrid birch]

I believe in you.. I got pulled into Asphodel towards the end 😭

[craggy totem]

Absolutely definitely super reliable and advisable strat: turn on Time 3 and use the damage ticks to proc Doom ;D

[empty bridge]

Why is fate girl from Brooklyn?

[rotund hearth]

Maybe it's purely a skill issue on my part but anyone else struggle with using the unlocked aspects? Like I went very far with aspect of melinoe 5 but using aspect of pan or momos was hell. Maybe it's cause I haven't upgraded them up to 5 like melinoe but damn

[empty bridge]

Some aspects are suckier at lower ranks. Some are better than others at lower ranks. Just upgrade them. All of them are feasible at most fears.

[devout cairn]

mel staff is amazing and momus is not so amazing, pan is a different style of gameplay you just gotta get used to it

[empty bridge]

Circe is almost always good

[meager elk]

Lmao my same thoughts when i heard her

[rotund hearth]

Pan is when I use blades and granted I'm not the best at blades but I did better with melinoe V

Almost wondering if I should get aspect of Artemis.

[haughty galleon]

Has anyone else had issues with smoothness and vrr flicker since the recent AMD driver update?

I never had any issues with hades 2 running butter smooth and today its extremely choppy, and adrenalin just updated today

[empty bridge]

and secret axe aspect is terrible at lower ranks lol

[devout cairn]

Artemis's is kinda of awkward to use, the most fun sister blades is the hidden aspect imo

[rotund hearth]

I unlocked axe, used it on skelly and immediately decided it wasn't for me

[devout cairn]

Sister blades unfortunately got the short end of the stick aspects wise

[rotund hearth]

Weird to say but it feels heavy lol

Like I'm holding an actual axe

[devout cairn]

That might have been the intention

[covert badge]

axe can be pretty fast tho, bunch of animation cancel you can do there

[nova oar]

woah no way

[rotund hearth]

Do you upgrade all the aspects?

[empty bridge]

Axe is my favorite weapon . also, axes IRL are pretty fast weapons lol

Great axes are a meme. I mainly use thanatos axe but pretty much all of them are great when maxed.

Grab charon's, slap geyser spout on it and youre good to go

[devout cairn]

I only did it because I had nothing else to spend nightmare on, I definitely don't use all aspects equally

[pallid cradle]

Because no one messes with people who are from Brooklyn. They'll decide your fate in the blink of an eye.

[rotund hearth]

Yeah how do you get nightmare lol

[devout cairn]

Broker eventually sells it, Charon delivery and vow of fear runs

[rotund hearth]

Oh haven't gotten to the vows yet

[empty bridge]

vow rewards are largely how youre going to be upgrading most aspects

Try charon. Make whole rooms explode

[rotund hearth]

You have to beat the game first right?

[empty bridge]

Yup. Beat chrony once

[rotund hearth]

Got it!

[empty bridge]

To pique your interest, Charon's axe is an axe where the omega special, when aimed on top of your cast, makes your cast explode as if it were an OCast

This generally leads you to try and make a lengthy nuclear bomb for builds

[pallid cradle]

If you didn't like Poseidon before playing it, he's about to be your new best friend. His cast is the best one for Charon Axe and his cast damage boon, geyser spout, is probably the best boon you can get on the weapon.

[nova oar]

Charon glaze is diabolical

[little mason]

I Remeber when they said posiden sucked as cast for Charon like a week ago

[broken creek]

Poseidon left a bad taste in my mouth from h1 😔 ive kinda avoided him because of that unless its like early runs beach ball stuff

[empty bridge]

This is called Bigotry Poseidon ROCKS

Great gain boon too

[craggy totem]

Uhmmm actually Poseidon waves.... Hephaestus, or possibly Demeter, rocks 😔

[empty bridge]

Ironically, my favorite hades 1 god got borked in hades 2

[little mason]

I hope ur favorite God's get borked in hades 3

[empty bridge]

Nothing bad will ever happen to Aphrodite (new fav)

[haughty galleon]

who?

they all seem to be solid to me

[empty bridge]

Ares

[fast kestrel]

Ares is lowkey better than in 1 dawg

[empty bridge]

wasnt doom just blitz in 1?

[crude dragon]

Nah, there's no low-key about it. He just flat-out is better in the first game

[haughty galleon]

ares is sick in 2 idk. takes some adjusting to, he has some really sweet duos tho

his niche kinda got taken by zeus tho

[fast kestrel]

Yeah hes much worse on his own but hes much better with other gods

Plus technically doom still exists

[haughty galleon]

there's less DoT type stuff in 2 for sure

[fast kestrel]

With the omega attack boon that summons a doom spear

[haughty galleon]

which i always enjoyed, but it was a bit samey

[fast kestrel]

Tbf they did add the DoT goddess in hestia

[haughty galleon]

ye, but they took 2 out (dio and ares) and made it harder to not invest heavily in

[fast kestrel]

I never use dio on my attack or specials in 1

[haughty galleon]

my big issue with hestia is how hard u feel pushed into her duo with demeter

[fast kestrel]

Never seemed all that good, I just got the dash

[haughty galleon]

and so many scaling effects

which make her kinda pushed into either support or getting specific duos

[fast kestrel]

She takes some setup if you want a DoT full build, but shes pretty good with casts and the like

Plus her mana regen is crazy good for most weapons

[haughty galleon]

dio u could just stick on attack on anything that attacks a lot

[fast kestrel]

Ik but it was never satisfying

[haughty galleon]

i used to force dio + aphro

[fast kestrel]

I only ever got high hangover when I got his call, which was rarely

[haughty galleon]

esp on the bow with the tracking special

[fast kestrel]

Yeah fair

I liked demeter with that though, the slow was very nice and it was basically max on one special

[haughty galleon]

it feels way weaker to do the same thing with hestia with similar weps in 2, idk ive tried the build and it felt worse damage

usually i just get hestia on cast unless im using fists or its pretty blah

[fast kestrel]

Hesita is very strong but you just gotta get a few extra boons for her

[broken glen]

Hestia feels really good on fates whim (since you’ll ALWAYS get a juicy pyro technique)

[fast kestrel]

Since the damage is locked at 100 per second without extra boons to increase it its gonna feel slow

[craggy totem]

I was going on about Thermal Dynamics earlier and hachi machi. You'd think it wouldn't be THAT fast since it's Blitz -> +Scorch, but somehow it was cuttin through dudes like butter

[misty pine]

Can i farm dialogue with a boss using chaos trials ?

[broken glen]

Thermal dynamics is so good

[haughty galleon]

its more that u have to build heavily for her, if u get pyro technique u drop origination a lot without 2 other curses

and her damage doesnt feel stronger than the other ones with defensive curses

[craggy totem]

I didn't even have Scorch on either attack or special -- just cast iirc was my only source of native scorch? -- and it still ended up like second highest damage or something

[haughty galleon]

yea, her cast is awesome, gain can be good, but the other core ones feel underwhelming

has some great supplemental ones, esp if u want to be spamming moon effects and up your magic spend

but idk i am always annoyed by how often im dropping origination when i have her on attack or special

demeter fixes both of those issues, plus the duo is so good, so I feel like any time i start with hestia i have to go into a magic spend build or get demeter

[craggy totem]

Eh I think several of her duos "fix" isues with scorch uptime if that's the worry

[haughty galleon]

ye aphro also helps

[craggy totem]

And Thermal Dynamics auto applying scorch after Blitz procs damage means if you have a Blitz-applying weapon boon you're also constantly refreshing that

[haughty galleon]

I feel like whenever i do those 2 on attack and special im dropping origination all the time

[craggy totem]

Maybe it depends on the weapon idk 🤔

[haughty galleon]

blitz pops and drops the curse, or scorch drops

its great when u have those and aphro/demeter duo to stop scorch from dropping

but basically every build feels like it has to have one of those 2 and needs a duo

[craggy totem]

Like, with fast weapons I haven't really run into issues as much

[haughty galleon]

then my issue is dying lol, maybe im just bad

[craggy totem]

I mean I'm just a weenie who gets nervous if they can't attac fast lol but probably just playstyle stuffs

[haughty galleon]

but the fast weps i just feel like i always would rather have two sticky curses on attack and special that help u not take as much damage

and have hestia on cast

plus lack of aoe/cc with both of ur core damage boons being single target and requiring focusing

like hera on blades, or raw burst of aphro, or apollo to help wit hrange, or poseidon knockback, and the lack of defensive boons to round out builds

slow cooker is a huge draw for the fast attacking ones that also just pairs with % better than scorch

[craggy totem]

I actively dislike Poseidon kb on a lot of weapons ngl (sorry unc)

[haughty galleon]

yea fair, its awkward, but its also a very consistent curse and has a ton of flat damage on random stuff that attacks fast

and does better aoe in crowds

and has more support type options in his kit

[craggy totem]

Not me chasing the damn enemies across half the damn map.... I guess I might be less grumpy about it if I also am running Freeze ofc

[haughty galleon]

well, u stick him on like, fist attacks with the triple hit dash attack and the things just die

or on wand special

a lot of things its not a great fit but the things its good on its dumb good

hestia rarely feels busted on attack or special, you work for it and have less flexibility

[craggy totem]

If the triple hit dash attack has no ardent admirers left then I am six feet under, but I just like when all the dudes I want to hit stay clumped together in one place is all :P

[haughty galleon]

idk, i just like hestia the least of any of the gods, not that shes bad

but dio/ares were my fav in 1 so it stands out, usually I love a DoT

she's the only god that if i start with her and fish for a build, I really feel boxed in if I miss on it

well heph has that problem the worst but he feels unique and has defensive boons to take if u decide to move away

im probably building her wrong and don't build enough of the "make everything expensive" type things that she enables

chain reaction is also really fun

[nova oar]

Hestia feels really good for me cause scorch starts off good at base and is really nice for origination

[haughty galleon]

idk like, this run i was like, lemme fish for moros hestia special, and it just

[ruby thistle]

does anyone know what the "Family Gatherer" win subtitle means?

[haughty galleon]

scorch drops off constantly

[covert badge]

ngl i'd seconded this if we talk about EA era, from unseen update and so on hestia's been mega buffed to heaven (also godsent)

[haughty galleon]

im definitely either playing it wrong or using it wrong, cuz hestia is by far my least successful at high oath when I start with her keepsake

if i use gods will or whatever then she feels solid

[crude dragon]

How many Olympians did you have in your pool on that run?

[haughty galleon]

I just die act 1-2 with her more than every other God combined

Over like 150 runs? Not sure lol

[ruby thistle]

aphro, hera, demeter, zeus were my core 4 but i got hera legendary which gave me boons of poseidon, apollo, ares (and i had hermes/artemis/hades boons which might or might not be relevant)

[crude dragon]

Yeah, that's probably it. You got almost all of the Olympians on a single run

[ruby thistle]

interesting! i guess that does add up, ty!

[crude dragon]

You're only missing Heph and Hestia on that list

[ruby thistle]

yeah, not counting athena or dionysus

i wish someone had a comprehensive list of all the different subtitles just because i kind of want to know exactly how many it is now but ah well lol

[craggy totem]

I was searching around and I think someone on a forum did have a long (though probably not comprehensive) list which dated from EA

[nova oar]

Which is crazy cause I had her for my 60f clear

[ruby thistle]

I remember seeing that and finding it super interesting and was just wishing people had done more on that front with potential new 1.0 subtitles haha

[nocturne grove]

How to beat secret

Is it just me or “ wait for two attacks then attack”

[craggy totem]

Spoilers

[merry echo]

Return to light now

[haughty galleon]

I prob just don't get what to do with her, she's def better when u have the like, immunity hits to clear?

[crude dragon]

She's fairly simple to build for, you want to be applying at least 100 Scorch per second since that's the max amount it depletes (before considering Pyro Technique), and then build appropriate Duos if you want to

And then look for global and Olympian damage boosts

[nova oar]

Wards? Yeah she's really nice for that

Idk I just like scorch regardless

[fresh kelp]

Does echo give u a keepsake? Ive made it to the true ending but I don't think I got anything from echo yet

[nova oar]

Yes, you need to gift her after talking to her

[fresh kelp]

But there is no gifting option till now

[nova oar]

Well there should have always been one

[topaz barn]

Isn't Shiva Indian ? Also I didnt knew director of SG is a Indian
Aspect of Shiva and Rama makes sense now.

[nova oar]

What has that got to do with anything?

[topaz barn]

Your nickname, just saying

[meager elk]

@craggy totem are you awake and or alive?

[nova oar]

Why??

[meager elk]

if you guys see them in chat, tell them i did thier build

[nova oar]

Ah

[covert badge]

I don’t think this has anything to do with Amir?
India just has a long-standing thing with gods in general

[meager elk]

escalier requested a test of tough gain and brave face so i did some runs of it

its viable just care of using vow scars/pain

its just an ungabunga build but sometimes the enemies die before i gain dmg to proc tough gain so i had to jump on some spikes for magik

[hazy trout]

omg i love your name btw i have a dnd oc named shiva also!!

[nova oar]

Cool, I just love the aspect lmao

[hazy trout]

fair enough

[proven lily]

it's the 25th-best Aspect

[nova oar]

It beat 67f I refuse to believe this slander

[fleet wave]

do 'rushing' boons work with medea skulls?

[digital shoal]

i wish artemis parry was faster...

my fighting game brain dislikes the fact parry is not frame 1

[covert badge]

rush boon is dash and sprint stuff, not attack and special

[fleet wave]

oo okay gotchya, just figured i'd ask cuz medea skull is a bit weird and new to me still

[storm glen]

its not rly a parry its more like a counter

[digital shoal]

counterpoint it literally says parry and also they functionally mean the same thing

[wispy storm]

I mean you can call anything anything you're not beholden to making your video game move beholden to the conventions of its name and the Artemis party doesn't work like any parry I've used previously and would go by 'counter' just fine as well

[stray relic]

You all have done an amazing job with this game.

[nova oar]

Thank you it took a lot of time and effort

[analog sail]

Hello! I just beat the game and my final underworld run happened to be my first 8 fear underworld run, and I had already completed surface at 8 fear. None of the statues appear to have been uncovered though. Does anyone know if this is what is supposed to happen?

[nova oar]

I believe the first statue has to be uw 16

Or you have to interact with the statue, I don't remember

[analog sail]

I've interacted with it a few times

[wispy storm]

Interact w/ skelly

[analog sail]

ah

[stray relic]

Of course. Why wouldn't you be interacting with skelly?

[analog sail]

well i did already, but i'm guessing the "game beat" dialogue takes priority over statue dialogue

so probably i just have to do one more run. thanks!

[stray relic]

Are we sure it's really a statue? And not like... I don't know, a cartload of Greeks waiting to strike?

[analog sail]

Also, I'm still missing whichever familar lets you find more minerals. Is there any thing crazy I have to do or was it just bad luck?

[buoyant matrix]

he's in the erebus fountain chamber, i have no idea how so many people keep walking by him without noticing him

[nova oar]

Raki?

[analog sail]

yes

[formal merlin]

Nah, the statue becomes a mech

[nova oar]

Erebus fountain room

[formal merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/lostbelt-olympus-atlantis-fgo-fate-gif-21954372

[analog sail]

wow okay yeah he really looks like part of the scenery

ill pay attention next time

[dusky mountain]

I think i just had the fastest build ever

[nova oar]

Time?

[dusky mountain]

Black Coat Aspect of Melinoe, i got the hermes epic boon that made my attack faster, used the metallic droplet, and then got heph legendary for more attack speed

[dusky mountain]

not in terms of time, but in terms of moving and attack fast lol, time was not too fats, like 14m surface.

Does Ares plasma still increase attack speed? probably missed that then for most speed

[nova oar]

It does yes

[foggy sable]

is it bad that i managed to reach Chronos for the first time before unlocking aspects?

[merry echo]

Wait are u one of the devs?

[real scarab]

ofc

[rough horizon]

Bad in what way? But no, you just got there soon, no problem with that

[broken creek]

No I got to him in EA on like run 4 😭

[nova oar]

Yes

[broken creek]

Then full release I fresh filed him twice, how fast you clear things isn't inherently bad everyone has a different pace

[merry echo]

I was still playing hades 1 during the hades 2 EA days

[brave urchin]

oh boy, having played 280 hours of Hades 2 in the last year and now trying a new file on Hades 1.... feels soooo weird.

The gameplay do be feeling way slower and clunkier.

Now being able to sprint is aaaaaah

yeah Hades 2 is such a giant upgrade to Hades 1 on every front. Gameplay, story, graphics (I swear Hades 1 has lower fps for me) and overall just quality. Hades 1 still peak, but Hades 2 is zenith!

[thin laurel]

I will say that hestia special on moros probably isn't the move, you won't be able to stack scorch particularly fast that way and it won't hit some enemies
joining this convo a bit late, but hestia tends to like fast attacks which let you build up scorch quickly (unless you're playing burning desire), so honestly while I like damage% on moros attack if I'm playing scorch moros at all I'd prob put it on the attack...? it feels decent. so does cast, esp with blitz attack and thermal dynamics
(also moros gets some innate damage% on the explosions, so even without a damage% attack you'll still do very good omega attack damage! even better if you go all in on hestia and grab her infusion, actually)
I also like hestia on a ton of other stuff (like notably Anubis attack, Nyx specials, and Circe cast), but if you're playing Moros I feel like special is my least preferred place to put scorch, personally.
also, prioritize pyro technique. that’s all

[nova oar]

🤓

[wide socket]

i heard that in the recent patch they added ||an ability to forget the story and reexperience it again|| how do i get that?

my save is pre 1.0 at about 20 fears

[thin laurel]

ngl I kinda hate “nerd emoji react” but I like you so I’ll let it slide 😔

[thin laurel]

if you opt into the 1.1 patch preview there’s an incantation to do that.
it isn’t available for 1.0 yet

[wide socket]

oh ok then i wait then

https://tenor.com/view/i-wait-gif-8191644

[covert badge]

i feel like you can just go zeus special and fish for thermal if you want scorch like put hestia cast and any % damage on attack
hestia special on torches looks cool (like playing actual torches) but ehh

[foggy sable]

how do i get "g-rock"?

I cant seem to find it in my reagents

is it the ship's ore?

[thin laurel]

thermal dynamics blitz special is also nice
I won a FW run recently with scorch attack and it was surprisingly solid tho lol.
but in general “I tried scorch on moros special and it felt bad” is not scorch’s fault, imo

[thin laurel]

mourning fields I believe? you should also be able to view it in your inventory and get a hint about where to find it

[foggy sable]

fun

well now i have to decide whether to go for garlic or the funny rock

[nova oar]

I have officially made my first youtube video (the speedrun mods are gonna deny it probably)

[foggy sable]

Hitch feels like an insane effect

[nova oar]

It is

[foggy sable]

with incandescent aura, do I have to be down magik for it to activate?

[nova oar]

Yes, only activates when magic is restored

[foggy sable]

ok I just met Icarus

[scenic gust]

ummm how to unlock ||the seed run reroll incantation again? I have already completed clearing with all weapons even with the aspect but still no sign||

[thin laurel]

have you done the epilogue ||involving the prophecy about the fates||?

[scenic gust]

It's required? ||Already done the first one. Still stuck on the second with that son of Zeus||

[foggy sable]

Total eclipse just nuked the sirens

[scenic gust]

get the Slow note, it will nuke anything

[rough oasis]

Is it just me or is the staff's hidden aspect the worst weapon?

[scenic gust]

Nope. It's on you. That staff is the bombb

[rough oasis]

I don't get it. It's clunky

[scenic gust]

What pick you use on Attack or Special is the key. And know when to spam the Omega of each type

[real scarab]

nah it's pretty good

[brisk island]

Guys help
Dora ran away

I forgot to request a new carpet before doing the incantation

[wispy storm]

Quit out enter back in

[rough oasis]

Yeah I just started my first run and got the hera attack, which seems decent. Idk maybe I'll figure it out in a minute. It just doesn't feel like it fits with the others, imo

[brisk island]

The incantation is for her

[covert badge]

anubis is basically tower defense genre

[wispy storm]

Quit out of and enter back into the file if you haven't left the room

[brisk island]

I did

[rough oasis]

Exactly. I'm not a fan

[wispy storm]

Okay then you'll have to keep playing

[brisk island]

I cant continue living if dora isn't haunting my tent

[rough oasis]

Dw she'll be around

[wispy storm]

Absolutely not you just gotta adapt to it, it does good damage

[brisk island]

Also do i get more nightmare for a bigger testament or am i hallucinating?
I don't think i had 5 nightmares or any nightmare at all

[rough oasis]

I'm not 100% sure but I think >10 gives you 2 nightmare

[brisk island]

Don't think i was above that

Yea i was at 6

[real scarab]

which boss

[brisk island]

Eris?

[real scarab]

ye I think 2nd and above tier bosses give more than one nightmare

[brisk island]

For cerbie? Cuz im about to go to him

[real scarab]

it's probably 2, too

I think it's 1,2,2,3 for each tier

[brisk island]

Oh cool
I thought the nightmare grind would've been more painful than that

Thanks a lot v:

[foggy sable]

so by "limit" does life tax have a cap or a total health restored?

[nova oar]

125 in 1.0, 150 in 1.1

[real scarab]

where is it

[stray relic]

What the meter is by my mana bar? It seems to light up blue very often like its trying to get my attention. Is my familiar hungry or something?

[wispy storm]

Blue? Aspect meter, what weapon are you on?

[stray relic]

Skull

It has a 4/4 next to it, so it does seem to be weapon related. (I have four skulls ready.)

[foggy sable]

ok im going nuts, what are the things above the doors?

like what do they mean

[wispy storm]

The 4/4 is global for skulls to let you know your ammo, it's unrelated to the blue meter next to it which if you're playing Persephone is how much Olympian damage youve racked up for your O special, and if you're playing hidden aspect is whether or not the high fire rate mode is activated

[humble urchin]

are you on persephone skull?

[stray relic]

Yeah. How did you know?

[wispy storm]

Because it's the aspect meter and Persephone has an aspect meter

[wispy storm]

Is it like a 👆? Means that whatever the reward you're going into is is part of something you've marked 'forget-me-not' (for example if you've marked a non unlocked card now ash doors will have the note on top)

[stray relic]

Found this for you: https://www.ign.com/wikis/hades-2/Door_Symbols_Guide

[foggy sable]

I meant the thing above the listed reward lol

[rough oasis]

Yeah, Anubis is by FAR my least favorite weapon. Even with a +16 hera attack boon (+235%), all the bosses took forever to kill

[real scarab]

it's better with on hit effects (scorch, poseidon, blitz) and you need to use the omega attack for max damage

[meager elk]

I wonder how you fight rivals chronos with anubis? Maybe spam the special??

[stray relic]

What's an aspect meter? Does it have something to do with changing direction? What can I do with it? How do I make it go up?

Is there something in game somewhere that will tell me?

[humble urchin]

it’s the only skull with that meter

in regards to Persephone skull, it’s your “sprouted” meter, which lets you increase the duration of your omega special

you fill up that meter by doing olympian damage, that constitutes as the extra sources of damage you get from boons (think poseidon waves, zeus’ blitz, hera’s hitch, hestia’s scorch etc)

once filled, your omega special now lasts for 2 extra seconds

[stray relic]

OH, okay! Thank you.

[humble urchin]

the aspect meter changes depending on aspect, so for example on Thanatos Axe, it’s how much Mortality you have stacked up, Mortality just means extra crit chance on your omega attacks/specials, up to 20%

[foggy sable]

aaand I cant attach anything

[foggy sable]

but yea this one answered it lol

[verbal hinge]

if i recycle bridal glow does the upgrade roll back?

[nova oar]

No

[verbal hinge]

40 gold \o/

[verbal hinge]

is quick buck not affecting purging pool?

or is it 40 after the boost idk

[wispy storm]

It's just a visual bar for aspect related mechanics like Thanatos critical chance or Persephone sprouted etc.

[verbal hinge]

my god i love the sickle

it makes me so sad that it doesn't scale at higher heat

but also i have plenty of use out of them left

@devout cairn not only did i not get hit, i went cerb and chronos phase 1 hitless

phase 2 i ate a bunch of the spiralling globes one time, and that's it

[meager elk]

What do you mean it doesnt scale at high fear 😭 🥺 you take that back, the axe is my beloved

[verbal hinge]

sickle not axe m8

[meager elk]

Is the sickle not an axe

[verbal hinge]

and i've been told it drops off ~35 heat

but if that's wrong im ecstatic because it's the only weapon that really suits my playstyle

[verbal hinge]

no the sickle is the curved blaced thingy for cutting wheat and such. peasant weapon

[storm glen]

nothing drops off at 35f thats too low

[meager elk]

Oh wait you mean the daggers?

[verbal hinge]

getafix uses it to cut herbs

[verbal hinge]

one is a dagger one is a sickle

[storm glen]

everyone calls it the daggers

[verbal hinge]

everyone is wrong

also idk it looks like a dirk not a dagger

[meager elk]

I mean avalanche is technically right
Its a dagger and sickle i can concede that point

[verbal hinge]

but i think a dirk is a dagger so that's ok

[verbal hinge]

i mean.. there's no technically and no question it's like saying you concede water is wet

[meager elk]

But for clarity’s sake its daggers for the ones who don’t care that much

[storm glen]

you could also just say the blades

[verbal hinge]

yeah important to know what nomenclature the community uses they can call it the beanstalks it doesn't matter as long as that's what's agreed on

if everyone says a building is a fish, a building is a fish

[verbal hinge]

i like this better than daggers yeah and it's still distinctive

[eager heart]

Even though I did everything correctly in Hades 2, I still can't get the Breaking Up the Band achivement. I haven't had any problems with other achives.

How can I fix it?

[meager elk]

This is why its not called the sickle cuz people might get confused with thanatos sythe

[verbal hinge]

idk why pets don't auto clear their resources what's the point of them collecting it if you have to go interact with it anyway

[verbal hinge]

no it's because they don't know what a sickle is

there is no confusing a scythe and a sickle it's not like a hoe and a rake

[nova oar]

You get an incantion for it later

[verbal hinge]

oh proper

i should have realised

[nova oar]

I||it autocollects all resources for you||

[vague portal]

is the unlock time of incantations random?

[nova oar]

Which incantation?

[vague portal]

acceptance of another fate

[nova oar]

You need to be on the patch preview

[vague portal]

i am

[weary tartan]

acceptance of another fate is the seed reroll

you can get that on current live patch

[teal zephyr]

Not random, you need epilogue finished

[stray relic]

Is there a way to change the target I have to slay for Nightmare in the Testament of Night? I'm supposed to slay Prometheus but I'm having a hard time of it and would like to slay soemone else for the Nightmare, if its posisble.

[nova oar]

Oops yeah that one

[weary tartan]

reddit () says that you have to complete the sword of night prophecy for that to unlock

[real scarab]

nope

[nova oar]

You need to have all aspects, all familiars, have the second statue, done most of if not all of the other incantations and fates list quests, completed the epilogue, and I think maybe unlock vor4

[vague portal]

is the epilouge the true ending with the credits?

[nova oar]

No, you need to find the fates

[weary tartan]

fates shmates

[vague portal]

ok that makes sense

[valid zephyr]

what happens when you sell bridal glow

[vague portal]

that is not listed as a requirement on the wiki

[real scarab]

u earn some money lose nothing

[valid zephyr]

ok nice

[plain remnant]

You gain gold, no negatives to doing it

[nova oar]

Don't trust the wiki, plus it isn't technically a requirement i just needs to happen before you can access the incantation

[weary tartan]

is there even a proper non fandom hades wiki out there?

[merry echo]

Finally did the dissolution of time incantation

[meager elk]

Congrats! Prepare for the climax of the story

[nova oar]

No

[junior hollow]

||moros interrupted when i died me and i thought i was finally gonna meet the weavers but he just wanted to fk||

[merry echo]

Havent done an underground run in a long time

[brisk island]

Uh circe offered me the thing that turn off a vow. Does it turn off the vow of rivals?

[merry echo]

Was it underworld or underground

[buoyant matrix]

no, rivals is blacklisted

[brisk island]

What if it was the only one?

[nova oar]

It wouldn't be offered

[brisk island]

Okay good
Thanks again. Everyone here has been so helpful

[tranquil vine]

You look at me with bewitching eyes
A red and a green give me butterflies
I can't disguise
The way I feel about you anymore

🗣️

mel outsirened the sirens 🥵

bewitching eyes is the best song in the ost, its sooo goooood

[mossy shell]

Finished the 24 and 32 fear for Underworld and Overworld. I guess ive completed all the ingame objectives, except for the list

[tranquil vine]

im stuck with 32 heat for the surface 😭

[mossy shell]

You dont need 32 to complete the end game content

Unless you just wanna do that ig lol

[tranquil vine]

i wan 🙂‍↕️

[mossy shell]

Overworld 24 was easier than Underworld 32

||how to seek to know who rebels against the Gods (Promethus)?||

Apparently its RNG. That sucks ngl

[tranquil wren]

Just do the Chaos trial on Olympus

[brisk island]

I started to think skelly is pulling pranks just to get beaten up

[dreamy forum]

Zamn I don't have anything to do with these games anymore

[brisk island]

Okay i wanna know is surface rivals 3 another gay couple or?

[tranquil wren]

Yes.

[brisk island]

Lmao

But it was really cool boss fight, cant wait to see the last of it

[grizzled trench]

does one of the toula upgrades provide +1 death defiance charge

[brisk island]

Oh sht i forgot to upgrade toula :p

[meager elk]

Close enough, welcome back asterius and the other guy

[weary tartan]

evil and intimidating gay couple vs awesome gay witch

[brisk island]

Speaking of which do we see them in the game other than the arcana nudes?

[meager elk]

||No ||

Is that a spoiler? Might as well tag it

[brisk island]

Not really i think it just make her DD better

[meager elk]

It makes toulas dd give you more health on revive i think

[brisk island]

4 is already too much anyway so idk why would you need 3 more

[weary tartan]

you can tell that it's 2 letters anyway lmao

[meager elk]

How bout now lol

[brisk island]

Most romantic moment is kissing your gf in a moment of doom

[stuck horizon]

does omega special causing omega cast with aspect of charon activate the night card?

[brisk island]

I mean it’s kinda hard to tell tbh

At least you can test it out on skelly see if you see a bigger number or hear the crit sound

[stuck horizon]

ah yeah good shout, I'll give it a try

UPDATE: I'm not seeing any crits on skelly sadly

[brisk island]

Cant wait to have another boss that is having one of my allies again

[honest solar]

If I have a god keepsakes and I get it in first chamber will I just not get it second chamber or artificer

[weary tartan]

imagine if rivals eris was with nemesis

[brisk island]

Nem wants to fight us but even she cant stoop to eris' level

[honest solar]

Is it impossible

[civic sedge]

Upgrading Toula makes their death defiance heal more

[neat tree]

Not sure if this is a bug or not, but here goes. I started a clean save after the v1 of the game was released and quickly beat the game. But for whatever reason can't "meet" Echo. She's not listed under characters I've interacted with. I have beat the final bosses of the game multiple times and seen the original/initial end credits. I still can't get Echo's trinket. Pre-v1 there was a quest between Echo and a certain other character. This quest hasn't started yet either. How many times do I have to beat the game to start interacting with Echo? I have forged bonds with many other characters.

[brisk island]

You can get another boon from em if you were lucky enough yea

[civic sedge]

The only way you can give them another death defiance is with Circe

[worn pelican]

What do I have to do so Prometheus talks to me for the Melinoë, seek us quest? I’ve talked so much to him already

[brisk island]

Id say you’re too unlucky
Had a similar experience with circe now i get her half of the time
Tho echo is very common for me to get so idk if this is specific to her

[weary tartan]

this made me realise that you could technically have 6 death defiances in a run

[peak moat]

with echo you have to gift her after you speak to her because she echoes what mel says, its easy to miss ngl

mel says a line as she approaches echo and you have to talk to echo before anything else so the whole gimmick of her echoing makes sense lol

[neat tree]

What's weird is that I encounter Echo a lot. I just can't give her anything, no matter what. I will try one more time to show you 😄

[brisk island]

You just talk to him until he talks about meli not knowing where the fates are idont think theres more to it :p

[weary tartan]

actually no, 7 death defiances. 3 from arcana, 2 from upgraded toula, 1 from skelly and 1 from athena

[worn pelican]

Thanks… I hoped there was a trick or something

[weary tartan]

8 if you count doom pin but i don't know if skelly's dd stays if you unequip the tooth

[peak moat]

1 from skelly, 2 from upgraded toula, 1 from athena, 1 from chaos' legendary boon, 4 from upgraded death arcana (acquired through cherished heirloom boosted crystal figurine). i believe the maximum is technically 9

[brisk island]

6 on underworld runs unless you can upgrade toula there too

Oh interesting

[weary tartan]

i forgot about the chaos boon

[shrewd geyser]

15 actually, you spend five before echo, get them all refilled by her spend all 5 again, then refill from Athena

[weary tartan]

this honestly doesn't sound that hard to achieve but why would you need all that

[brisk island]

Sneaky lol

[shrewd geyser]

Hades 8% per dd used this night

[weary tartan]

if i ever get that lucky im buying 10 lottery tickets

[meager elk]

Reading this made me think of one of those math brain teasers

[shrewd geyser]

You could have 120% bonus damage from dd burns lol

[brisk island]

Yea saw haelian do a run using that strat

[shrewd geyser]

Even more if you buy kiss of styx and stuff

[peak moat]

i think 9 is the maximum to have at once, and for dds in total over a run you can get way more with athena's stalwart stand, you can lose a dd for every encounter from the third room of erebus all the way to chronos

[hallow vault]

Words cant describe how much i Love that Game lmao

[shrewd geyser]

15 is easy tho, doesn’t require a god run just toula tooth echo and Athena

[hallow vault]

Im omw to 400 Hours more then Hades and i have like 350 hours in Hades lol

[peak moat]

boated did a run with stalwart stand and got to 400% bonus damage from the last gasp blessing in the last biome

[meager elk]

Doesnt moros pin also count as a dd so you can also use that to stack the Hades boon

[peak moat]

unfortunately the pin doesnt count towards last gasp damage 💔

[shrewd geyser]

That’d be broken

[hallow vault]

The gameplay is so good

[brisk island]

Make sense but damn

[meager elk]

Man, they thought of it being potentially game brwaking

[shrewd geyser]

You could stack it every encounter from the start lol could you imagine 8% damage per room cleared

[honest solar]

Can anyone talk about the halien max fear Tryna beat it

With a different approach

[primal arch]

It wasn't even fully optimised

[brisk island]

Im still on my way to get the true ending so i prefer to not see it until then :p

[honest solar]

Sorry I mean max level boon

[brisk island]

Just have to talk to a traitor couple of times

[shrewd geyser]

A traitor or a rebel?

[brisk island]

Traitor

Dont try to guess it cuz i probably misunderstood the situation and didnt check with them yet lol

[peak moat]

ohhh that makes more sense, idk if anything can get close to a massive king's/queen's ransom into echo's pom pom pom

[meager elk]

Branded as a traitor but we all know in our hearts what they are 🔥 🔥

[tranquil wren]

prometheus the goat

[shrewd geyser]

A freaking traitor 😔

[brisk island]

A master b-

[tranquil wren]

Prometheus was literally tortured for our sins 😔 ✊

[shrewd geyser]

He was tortured for his sins fym

[honest solar]

He went with to seed a high Zeus boon and pom it and get a couple of Hera boons for king's ransom but I've been thinking what if I just try to get all the Hera boons until morning fields

[brisk island]

I was not talking about blue fire man but okay

[meager elk]

Bröther he stole the fire first

[tranquil wren]

I'm very much joking but he did it so we could have our own age, which means we are free to sin as we like without the gods' influence

[devout cairn]

gods deserved to have that fire stolen they are ass

a lot of mortalphobia in this chat

[shrewd geyser]

Yeah I’m mortalphobic what about it

[meager elk]

Did he steal it from hestia or did he steal a specific fire from olympis?

[shrewd geyser]

I’m a mortality traitor

[buoyant matrix]

mortals are pathetic anyway smh my head

[weary tartan]

hey where'd you get that fire emoji

[tranquil wren]

internalised mortalphobia is not something to brag about

[shrewd geyser]

Special fire

Enough about my internalized mortalphobia, let’s talk about my externalitized mortalphobia

[brisk island]

I have to agree most bs was caused by them for the most part

[devout cairn]

gods complaining about mortals causing their own suffering bro i read the iliad that shi aint TRUE!!!

[tranquil wren]

mortal propaganda

[shrewd geyser]

Well it be mostly true

[brisk island]

Even in sgg hades they still d heads

[weary tartan]

i wonder how many people poseidon killed by making the rift

[devout cairn]

WRONG

[meager elk]

“Hey prometheus, whats that you got?”

*hiding fire behind his back “I made mortalkind”

[shrewd geyser]

Who opened the box

[primal arch]

More than 3

[tranquil wren]

victim blamer

[weary tartan]

i wonder if that had more casualties than from the chronos zombies

[shrewd geyser]

True

[tranquil wren]

there are awful mortals out there like tantalus, pandora is definitely NOT one of them

[shrewd geyser]

Idk man she was given strict instructions not to open that box

[brisk island]

I mean… you know she doesn’t read instructions

[meager elk]

pandora literally told me she would curse my bloodline when i talked to her smh smh 😤

[tranquil wren]

bruh it's the same story as adam and eve, there's literally no way anyone could've predicted what would happen

I blame hesiod

[shrewd geyser]

Adam and Eve really fumbled the bag for all of humanity

We could’ve been immortal and naked in a garden and shi

[tranquil wren]

nothing stopping you from doing the second part

[weary tartan]

honestly doesn't sound that interesting

[shrewd geyser]

The law 😔

[devout cairn]

she was set up by olympians

[shrewd geyser]

I don’t know about setup, she kinda just majorly failed a test

[tranquil wren]

wait are you being serious and not ragebaiting? thats crazy ngl

[meager elk]

Im not up to date with my jesus lore but arent humans created with free will or did the apple give humans free will?

[shrewd geyser]

Like putting a candy infront of a kid and telling them not to eat it. I ain’t saying you should expect the kid to not eat it, but if they eat it they have failed their test of discipline

[brisk island]

Whos great idea to test her at all?

[devout cairn]

that was no test zeus orchestrated it to punish prometheus

[tranquil wren]

wow. that's incredibly dumb

[shrewd geyser]

The Apple gave humans the knowledge of good and evil

[meager elk]

And they decided being naked is evil?

[devout cairn]

they got shame installed

[tranquil wren]

how does anyone read the story of pandora and actually blame pandora?

[shrewd geyser]

I guess lol, they learned shame

[brisk island]

Context needed

[shrewd geyser]

lol I don’t, im just devils advocating

[tranquil wren]

no one likes a devil's advocate

[shrewd geyser]

Some people do

[tranquil wren]

I'm being ragebaited

[shrewd geyser]

Hehehehe

[brisk island]

I wouldve if i didnt think of the possibility that shes being dora

[peak moat]

just to play devil's advocate for a second i think there could definitley be some people who like a devil's advocate

[tranquil wren]

so listen. I'll find you

[stuck horizon]

the devil gets a bad rap too, all he did is defy god like once

[shrewd geyser]

Facts how can you defend pandora but not the devil

[meager elk]

Adam and Eve ate apple, apple gave knowledge of good and evil, decides to hide their naked bodies,
Naked = Evil??

[tranquil wren]

true! I like Hades' interaction with Zag when he's carrying the aspect of Lucifer

[peak moat]

and the devil has a cool gun

[devout cairn]

i kinda started defending the devil after I read the Lucifer comics, that shi is 🔥 🔥

[tranquil wren]

the bible is just not a very good mythos. for some reason nakedness was shameful, even though that was something we just made up

[shrewd geyser]

I think it’s more so that with the knowledge of good and evil they became aware of the evil that could be perpetrated sexually or something?

[brisk island]

Adultery probably

[tranquil wren]

neil gaiman 🥀

[devout cairn]

well thankfully gaiman is not involved in the lucifer comics

well not the ones i read that was mike carey

[peak moat]

fun fact the forbidden fruit was never actually stated to be an apple, and is depicted as anythig from a fig, to a grape, to wheat in alot of earlier biblical artworks

[tranquil wren]

lucifer was created by gaiman

[devout cairn]

yeah but i can just forget that fact

[weary tartan]

i didn't know he made guns

[shrewd geyser]

I started defending the devil when I read the Bible and the only stuff he does in it is like… give humans knowledge that god has to put them on a similar level… rage bait Jesus in the desert, and question why god should have ultimate authority

[brisk island]

Damn he was created by a gay man?

Get it? Gaiman gay man?

[tranquil wren]

funny

[meager elk]

/unjerk for clarification im just joking about the naked = evil thing but glad you guys just went “Yes, and “

[brisk island]

Thank you worked hard for it

[tranquil wren]

where's that image of the people in the party looking weirdly at the viewer

[peak moat]

on the second day god made pants

[brisk island]

You cant send it to make me self conscious lol

[shrewd geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-yay-knight-clash-knight-coc-gif-25371570

[tranquil wren]

meanwhile God was tormenting Job for the fun of it

[hearty timber]

Realising that Ares is hitting our enemies with a sword of damocles

[tranquil wren]

no Doom like in H1 though 🥀

[shrewd geyser]

Or telling Abraham to go kill his son because his reaction would be soooo funny

[brisk island]

Anyways how crazy is chronos phase 3 would be? Or even typhon?

[tranquil wren]

play the game and find out

[weary tartan]

that's also why his status effect in hades 2 is called "woundes"

[hearty timber]

Blitz is the new doom ☁️

[devout cairn]

i guess we will never know...

[peak moat]

does he know

[hearty timber]

Typhon already has 3 phases

[brisk island]

Gonna have to wait for that actually

[meager elk]

Im so glad doom’s transition went smoothly blitz is the best dmg stat in the game

[weary tartan]

swords are also known for inflicting "cut-es"

[brisk island]

Didn’t say he didn’t

[peak moat]

congrats doom on her transition hrt is magic

[brisk island]

I was not sure how many of em were considered phases actually so i didn’t specify anything lol

[meager elk]

I tried typing chronos on my keyboard and it thought i was trying to type chrono trigger

[shrewd geyser]

Thank you crazy frog for celebrating trans pride

[buoyant matrix]

does crazy frog have any media aside from the racing game and the music videos

[shrewd geyser]

They have a discord server apparently

[buoyant matrix]

yeah well what have they been discussing in it for the past 10 years 😭

[shrewd geyser]

Join and find out

[devout cairn]

top 10 craziest crazy frog moments

[devout cairn]

when he said "ding, ding", that was pretty crazy

[craggy totem]

Hello I am awake and alive and only just opened Discord lmao. HELL YEAH NICE YOU ABSOLUTE LEGEND

[devout cairn]

congratz I used them a lot early on because how good they are with Scorch, dw about that you can still make them work in higher fear

[tidal bridge]

Hello beautiful people i have a question about familiars. I've got all of them besides bird one "Raki". I've got already around 200 nights, finished game and epilogue, done 32 fear runs and all familiars are maxed out. All incantations etc is done.

Edit: I've seen him maybe once in my 200hrs playthrough and never again

[devout cairn]

keep repeating erebus until you see Raki in the fountain room

[humble urchin]

oooof that’s some rough luck, what i’d suggest is you keep running the underworld, if you reach the end of erebus without a fountain room, die/reroll seed if you unlocked the incantation and repeat

[tidal bridge]

Damn, so he can spawn just like that from the beginning of the game without any special conditions?

Damn that's very unlucky holy moly ahahaha.

[buoyant matrix]

you have definitely just kept walking by him

[humble urchin]

yeah or likely that^

numerous people just never noticed him

[craggy totem]

He's always in the room, right? Like you can't have the room spawn and Raki not spawn? (prior to recruiting him)

[tidal bridge]

From what i noticed they don't always spawn.

[buoyant matrix]

wow they really should put some yellow paint around him like the other videogames do nowadays

[tidal bridge]

Hecuba sometimes didn't spawn and you can't miss Hecuba haha

Same with Gale

[verbal hinge]

scorch you say
i've been doing blitz
gonna try that one now

[buoyant matrix]

because hecuba and galle need you to have permission from hecate. as soon as you have the ability to recruit familiars, raki is there

[humble urchin]

i think he has a chance to spawn the first time you ever see him, and then he’s guaranteed to be there

[devout cairn]

they dont always spawn but at 200 hours it sounds like you missed Raki chilling to the side quite a few times, I know because I missed him

Mel should shout real loud their names

[craggy totem]

LMAO

[tidal bridge]

I saw him once and he was at the left side of the room by the exit, correct?

[devout cairn]

yes

[tidal bridge]

Oh i definitely didn't get that

[tidal bridge]

with Raki, other familiars i had the voice lines

[devout cairn]

she should do that, in reality she whispers raki

maybe whisper is an exaggeration

[tidal bridge]

Will hunt for fountain rooms. Thank you and will let you know if i found him ,.,

[craggy totem]

Didn't see who it was that tried to post, but ftr most of the channels don't have image upload perms and this channel also doesn't embed at all iirc. From what I saw it seemed appropriate for #h2-victory-boasting, which is the exception :)

[winged patio]

Correct me if I'm wrong but you always get a daedalus hammer in the first area right?

Or rather always get offered one

[craggy totem]

WDYM by the first area? The very first room? The first region? Or a specific region like Erebus or Ephyra?

[wintry wharf]

Ahoi, just joined the server, I'm in my 80s of runs, last night just tried the Morrigan for the first time and it was my new best run lol, today I'll try Rivals 4 surface with it for the first time

[winged patio]

Also is there any way besides grinding the stupid testaments to get nightmare?

[craggy totem]

Yes, you should be able to buy them from the broker for bones and from Charon's preorders with rewards cards, as well as occasionally being able to buy with gold in the final Charon shop during a run (very expensive)

[wintry wharf]

Grind bones to get nightmare, and buy 2 after 100 time units with Charon tickets

[winged patio]

Huh?
Neither of those have ever showef up for me

[wintry wharf]

Weeeird

[winged patio]

Is there some incantation

[wintry wharf]

Maybe just needs some more runs or get some more nightmares naturally?

[winged patio]

Wait the wiki says if youve got any you should be offered them

But ive completed a couple and nothing

[craggy totem]

Wiki might be outdated, a lot of stuff online dates from EA (and may not reflect 1.0 stuff)

[wintry wharf]

I think Hel is my favorite aspect so far because it brings back memories from Lucifer and Super Soaker which was my third favorite aspect in 1 haha
Then I think (out of weapons I've given a fair go thus far or got to use) Morrigan>Artemis>Shiva (I really like it but man at the same time it feels too weak even in a run where all goes well)>Persephone>Selene>Thanatos>Eos>Moros>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Guan Yu>>>Supay

[tidal cliff]

Beat my first ever 32 fear surface🥹

[craggy totem]

NICE holy moly

[wintry wharf]

Yooo nice

[craggy totem]

I cannnnnnnnot believe mine eyes at this wretched and sacrilegious slander upon my beloved night buddies Selene and Moros

[buoyant matrix]

now do it with another weapon!! 💯

[wintry wharf]

I really like Selene, I just like others more

With torches I am just, eh okay in general, not bad, unless it's Supay, then it's war

[craggy totem]

Fair enough :P I'm just laughing at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[wintry wharf]

Supay was one of if not my my strongest runs ever, I did hitless Hecate and Scylla, Cerb hit me twice, and Chronos dealt 50 damage
It was the most boring run I've ever done across both games

[buoyant matrix]

nah supay is fun

just add some fear

[wintry wharf]

Losing the ability to even click attack or special and just... Floating and running around while barraging with omegas is extremely bland and boring to me yawn

[buoyant matrix]

play it with frenzy2 hordes3 menace2 trust

[craggy totem]

The actual worst part about Supay (and Shiva) is that because you're floating, the visual cues for "I am lined up with the reward pickup" are different, and I keep having to adjust my damn position when I try to pick up the damn reward. This is 100% scientific facts jsyk

[humble urchin]

add grit while you’re at it

[devout cairn]

🤨

[craggy totem]

It costs me as much as a whole 0.5s sometimes. Truly literally the worst aspect of the aspects.

[wintry wharf]

Okay "Super easy weapon requires some thinking if you make the game hard" is obvious, every other weapon is also tough with those

[devout cairn]

least hyperactive tranquil gain hater

[wintry wharf]

The base gameplay of Sup is still bottom, lel

[craggy totem]

IDK, SL. I think it's pretty................... supayrb

[buoyant matrix]

the issue is engagement. if there's like 2 enemies each wave that are piss easy to kill then of course the auto attack aspect will be boring. having actual danger all around makes supay's specific playstyle much more engaging

[wintry wharf]

It's still an auto attack weapon even with more enemies and speed Sure I guess hordes will make it even more like Vamp Survivors like how many people say Supay is like
Counterpoint: Vamp survivorlike, Musou and all that style of games are my most loathed genre 👍

The difference between my OP Supay run and OP Morrigan run is fun, mindless Omega-ing, and then Morrigan is like a literal MMO rotation as a weapon

(But actually fun to play, unlike most MMOs 😜 )

[polar abyss]

The ever-powerful Circe and Mel Staff enter

My opinion of the Soup is that I want hitstun back, for a cost (Only on Omegas), or for the rush boon to be better so you don’t have to get exactly Heat / Breaker Rush (or I guess Zeus’s rush with Blitz?)

[wintry wharf]

The Rush boost felt really unrelated to Supay tbh, but I guess when it literally takes away controls, not a lot of things to boost

[polar abyss]

It feels like the design implies Supay in some way should be a Rush Aspect

[craggy totem]

IDK, I think it makes sense. Since you're auto attacking around yourself, then the way that you hit things is to shove your face at 'em, eh?

[humble urchin]

+50% sprint speed sgg do it

[wintry wharf]

But, it's a bullet hell weapon, it literally wrecks being ranged and spamming bullets

[crude dragon]

You mean bullet heaven, since the shots are coming from you

[wintry wharf]

I had no idea that's how that is called

[crude dragon]

It's the main connection the aspect has to the actual myths, IIRC

[wintry wharf]

What if Supay gained a temporary gatling when you rush into enemies? That might be more engaging tbh

[winged patio]

So i had the most confusing run
I
Straight up was not offered a daedalus hammer until freaking fields
And then got both back to back
And exactly 0 attack upgrades

[crude dragon]

Yeah, that sounds like hammer luck

[wintry wharf]

I mean sure, Hel already makes itself a gatling with its gimmick, but Hel is actually a good weapon so no biggie if Supay had a quick fire if you rush in

[winged patio]

I thought it was straight up guaranteed by area 2 at the latest

[polar abyss]

But Nyx exists

[wintry wharf]

Being like any other aspect would make Supay better by default

[crude dragon]

I think the bigger issue is that, much like Ares boons, it got over-nerfed

[polar abyss]

Supay has been nerfed in every single patch since its release

[wintry wharf]

I heard it was even more OP before
So I probably would hate it even more haha

[polar abyss]

And yes I’m counting the Gigaros Dash nerf as a nerf to Supay.

[crude dragon]

That's the thing, though, it kinda sucks at higher Fear because nothing it does staggers enemies

[thick fable]

anubis really just goes well with anything huh

[buoyant matrix]

no? lol

[winged patio]

What hidden aspects should i unlock first

[buoyant matrix]

whichever weapon you enjoy the most

[winged patio]

But aint they really different from the base weapon like in 1

[fast kestrel]

still the same core gameplay style

[buoyant matrix]

they still have some similarities

[crude dragon]

You really want on-hits for the attack, but basically anything but Splash and Scorch can do work for the Special

[winged patio]

Is the axe healing one good?

[crude dragon]

It's an axe, so it's good by virtue of being an axe

[wintry wharf]

I am bothered about the fact I read a lot online about the "5 levels on a non Meli aspect" for secret aspects
But nowhere I saw, it mentioned needing to unlock every aspect of a weapon
I was getting mad mad MAD at Artemis for being useless and never giving me Morrigan
I was then told about this, I bought Pan, Morrigan was given the very next run
😓

[buoyant matrix]

yeah articles online are either outdated or ai generated, ask your questions here 😂

[polar abyss]

Wait what do you mean?

[buoyant matrix]

like would you run aphro attack on anubis

[craggy totem]

TBF we also get things wrong sometimes on account of everyone working off memories of different things lmao

[polar abyss]

Oh… I thought that was replying to the Soup

[wintry wharf]

Why are Secret aspect requirements so heinous compared to Hades 1, it was much simpler there, 5 bloods across any non Zag aspects in one weapon
5 levels in one aspect and buying every aspect is too much and more obscure and less naturally happening

[craggy totem]

It's not "five levels in one aspect" according to someone or other, it's "five nightmare spent on any aspect"

[buoyant matrix]

the actual requirement is the three base aspects and 5 nightmare spent on the weapon

[wintry wharf]

??? But everywhere it said an aspect to Level V, so that was wrong too??

[craggy totem]

Like we said..... outdated stuff

[crude dragon]

Well, getting a non-Mel to rank 5 will make you spend 5 Nightmare on the weapon, so people got false positives

[wintry wharf]

Okay so that is same as Hades 1, cool
I still feel the all aspects of one weapon is a bit much tho
I didn't buy Pan because well, Chiron was really good in Hades 1 but never really my sort of weapon compared to other bows
Pan sounded a lot like Chiron
So I just didn't really feel like buying it until I was told about the Morrigan unlock

[craggy totem]

IDK I feel like it's sensical enough to be like "you can't see the hidden aspect unless you've seen all the nonhidden ones", maybe a bit annoying but not illogical

[wintry wharf]

I know they're secret, but I feel at least that one extra requirement after coming from Hades 1 could get an extra line to hint it in the style of "Your prowess is growing, Melinoe, but perhaps it may grow yet further if you fully acquint yourself with your weapons"

[dire plank]

They are different from their base weapon, so probably pick the weapon you don’t like to upgrade I guess lol. I don’t like the skull for example but the hidden aspect of the skull doesn’t require picking up the ammo and I like it a whole lot more

So getting different options helps so I’m not stuck with a weapon I don’t like when it has grave thirst

[little mason]

They should go back into early access

[wintry wharf]

Also I haven't bought Charon aspect yet, I thought all game "no way I spend tickets on this, I want nightmares" and the gimmick of the aspect didn't sound all that much and well, I love having a scythe too much
Sooo now I am getting the 3 tickets after being told of the "all aspects" thing and being annoyed at Charon for hours for literally having never anything to say and never giving me the heckin' ax

[devout cairn]

charon aspect is best aspect

[tranquil wren]

tbh it's a "hidden" aspect, so it makes sense that you have to work for it

[buoyant matrix]

charon is probably the strongest axepect 😂 though the playstyle is indeed very different than the other ones

[little mason]

Because of a bug

[wintry wharf]

They were also hidden in 1 too, but Hades 1 would never force me to buy Aspect of Chaos or Hades with precious bloods 😜

[buoyant matrix]

??? charon was the strongest even before the bugged supernova

[tranquil wren]

it could just be intended behaviour with super nova imo (let me believe)

[little mason]

???? are you straight delulu?

[buoyant matrix]

i mean i guess yo- checks nickname oh right of course

[crude dragon]

The funny part is that Charon's the strongest of the 4 axes

[buoyant matrix]

THANK YOU BUGATTI

[wintry wharf]

Counterpoint, it is not a scythe tho

[tranquil wren]

supergiant games if you see this message please do not change super nova with aspect of charon

[crude dragon]

Counter-counterpoint: It's got money embedded in it

[little mason]

Please nerf all axe aspects if you read this message

[crude dragon]

Please overlook all axe aspects if you read this message

[buoyant matrix]

PLEASE BAN NERGUL DESTROYER FROM THE SGGCORD IF YOU'RE READING THIS 😠

[fast kestrel]

Man I really need a mod that puts hades 2 gods into 1

[little mason]

I sense someone is jelly

[fast kestrel]

heh... more like... peanut butter

[buoyant matrix]

no I'm actually pizza

[wintry wharf]

Olympus Extra with Apollo, Hera, Hephaestus and Hestia:
(Technically the truth)

[craggy totem]

TBF I think nightmare is arguably easier to get than blood?