h2-discussion

[neon hull]

i don't remember, but i do remember that it covered the whole arena

[bronze marlin]

the infernal beast just wants to play. leave the dog alone

[shrewd geyser]

She did murder the h*ck outta ||Typhon|| he’s dead as

[neon hull]

i don't remember exactly what it looked like, but it covered the whole arena

[nova oar]

True that

[indigo cypress]

I laughed so hard when I first saw the animation

[shrewd geyser]

There will be streams/streaks that originate from the safe location, look for those and run to the circle to avoid death

[neon hull]

ok

[swift flare]

you need to run into the small circle that has the "suck in" look

[neon hull]

ok

ty chat

[buoyant matrix]

those attacks both have a safe zone, pay attention to the color of the floor, it's pretty clear

[swift flare]

to be fair, it does look like that small circle is the dead zone on first glance, see many make the mistake

[neon hull]

that's excatly what i thought. that's probably why i got killed

[bold hull]

i need to get temper of zeus godsent duo. i have the zeus prerequesite now i need to get a hex from selene. if the initial boons she gives dont include a godsent option is the run over?

[static drum]

okay wait what if i no diff VoR polyphemus with frenzy 2 on what if i'm actually goated (with the sauce)

[swift flare]

that's right

[shrewd geyser]

I get the misinterpretation of the visual, but at the same time that’d be a pretty weak sauce attack to kill that tiny circle lol

[meager walrus]

To fix the issue with players complaining that chronos instakill is unreadable, supergiant should add a big "stand in the circle" indicator

[swift flare]

VOR poly is an easy boss anyway, IF you cleanse the poison

[nova oar]

This should be fun

[shrewd geyser]

Red circle and arrow

[tropic monolith]

hot take, there actually should be some justification for why that little circle is safe; a shield or something like you can add to erebus

[novel turtle]

I am so upset the poison is back

[shrewd geyser]

Right time right place

[swift flare]

unreadable is not true, more like giving people the wrong idea lol

[olive fog]

Is there a trick to getting the last weapon aspects? I think I have fulfilled the requirements, but seemingly ||Moros, Selene, Artemis, and Medea|| want to talk about literally anything else.

[limpid adder]

I feel like the entire floor being red is pretty obvious

[swift flare]

witch using poison is pretty normal imo

[neon hull]

well it wasn't to me, but maybe i'm just slow idk

[bronze marlin]

next run will be it

[novel turtle]

Keep playing soldier

[swift flare]

it took me 100 runs to unlock all of them lol

[nova oar]

That many? It took me 5 or 6 iirc

[novel turtle]

Well yes, but I have trauma from the satyr tunnels

[olive fog]

I am around 120, just no one seems to want to talk lmao

[shrewd geyser]

You dont miss hunting for their sack?

[swift flare]

i start with fresh file, so gotta take time to get things back

[nova oar]

Ah ok

[bronze marlin]

I noticed that doing chaos trials, does not give new dialogue in town. must do normal runs

[limpid adder]

If someone made it to ||Chronos|| I would expect them to probably have dodged the red bits from all the enemies from the previous floors, especially ||Cerberus||

[swift flare]

also, i still DID NOT expire all Icarus dialogue at 100th run, and he's not opening his last heart...

[novel turtle]

Well I’m probably going back to hades after I 100% the game to finish that one so I guess I do

[swift flare]

so stubborn to give Mel the romance

[nova oar]

I'm still missing 2 hades acheivments that I cannot for the life of me be bothered doing

[novel turtle]

Cerb + roxy both have the same mechanic just more wiggle room

[swift flare]

assuming there's one for Icaras, that is

[shrewd geyser]

What ones

[nova oar]

Use a max god call against that God in a trial, and max every keepsake

[static drum]

there should be more romances

[novel turtle]

He’s doing the same to me and I’m ready to smite him

[nova oar]

You need to talk to medea

[static drum]

mel deserves to smooch artemis

[nova oar]

Theres alr 4 what more do you want

[bronze marlin]

ah hades ONE. I was thinking huh? god calls

[static drum]

content for the content machine

[nova oar]

Oh i've alr done all hades 2 acheivments they were annoyingly easy

[shrewd geyser]

Oh yeah just grinding basically

[swift flare]

oh right, i wanna ask

[nova oar]

I'll do it one day it's just taking the time to do so

[swift flare]

Why the hell they make nectars an one time per sale thing in Hades 2???

[dreamy helm]

I mean, at least they don't ask you to max all keepsakes 😭 (I still do just because)

[swift flare]

what, they want us to brew it with cauldron?

[nova oar]

Cause you can make it in the cauldron

[lyric zenith]

Wtf is the ||watch, and fate's whim in general||

[nova oar]

Oh i still did all keepsakes and bonds for funsies

[lyric zenith]

I have 3k gold rn, actually unhinged.

[nova oar]

Can't have the reroll arcana active, and can't take god keepsakes (except dio)

[swift flare]

it's still super slow and it took forever to get enough to enough nectars to gift everyone, while i'm sitting with 10k bones that can't do anything

[dreamy helm]

The watch is actually so broken lmfao

[lyric zenith]

AND I GOT HERMES LEGEND

[nova oar]

You haven't unlocked the nightmare purchase?

[dreamy helm]

You get rich in an instant

[bronze marlin]

Onion? Gold!

[lyric zenith]

GGs, lmao.

[swift flare]

i unlock the familiar skin and all weapons upgraded

[nova oar]

I mean it's fine, the only fates whim I would call broken is ||jpom||

[nova oar]

Did you unlock the nmare trade from charon?

[static drum]

Oh while I'm thinking about it how do you progress the dora quest? ||She remembers and has already asked for time alone but its been like 20 nights and shes back to normal dialogue but the bond hasn't deepened and I don't seem to have any gift options or ways to interact with her||

[nova oar]

Or do testaments give enough to max these days

[swift flare]

you're missing the point lol

[nova oar]

Talk to prometheus

[bronze marlin]

they give enough for weapons, but not enough for the pet skins on top of that

[static drum]

ah, that makes sense

[swift flare]

I am working on nectar progress, and that one time nectar and brew is NOT helping

Hades 1 is totally fine with nectar, it's my choice

[lyric zenith]

Use rerolls for nectar, imo.
You can get a lot very quickly that way.

[swift flare]

i still think it sucks that nectar is no longer infinite supply

[nova oar]

That makes no sense

[dreamy helm]

I mean if you are really desperate you can always just buy nectar/chaos trial/buy nectar/chaos trial/buy nectar...

[swift flare]

why? the old broker sold them indefinitely if you have enough gems

[broken glen]

I have so much nectar and ambrosia 😭 it does NOT need to be infinite

I need a way to get rid of it

[bronze marlin]

if only we could gift

[broken glen]

I’ve forged all of the bonds….

[nova oar]

Real, you should get enough through normal progression

[dreamy helm]

I wish they made it so that everything could be sold for decorations

[swift flare]

i think u can gift to Nyx infinitely

[nova oar]

You can't

[bronze marlin]

stops after like 2 or 3 nectars iirc

[swift flare]

ah ok

[buoyant matrix]

2

[dreamy helm]

Nix not even giving you a keepsake :((

[swift flare]

i also notice she does not have "Heart progress"

[broken glen]

It’s fun seeing Nyx from a perspective of someone that she doesn’t really like

[buoyant matrix]

she says the nocturnal arms are her keepsake to you 😔

[swift flare]

no love to Mel, I suppose? even if Mel spend times with many of her children, INCLUDING Eris

[dreamy helm]

She basically does NOT care about it

[broken glen]

I mean she doesn’t dislike Melinoe but she’s just… some god. There’s so many why should Nyx care

[bronze marlin]

come to think of it. I can't even talk to on my 1.0 file. so I'm not done yet.
what are even the requirements for that.

[swift flare]

not even showing Mel some love with me taking care of her most rebellious child

[dreamy helm]

Idk, she really does not care at all for Mel imo

[swift flare]

because Mel helps Hypnos, Nem, Moros, Eris?

[broken glen]

Nyx watching the hades children seduce her entire bloodline:

[swift flare]

could at least show some appreciation on that, even if Mel is not doing it for her sake

[dreamy helm]

I get vibes of: why u still here? Get away from me!
Every time I enter Chaos

[broken glen]

I guess everyone just likes Zagreus more

[dreamy helm]

I mean sure

But even the Bond forged dialogue from Chaos shows her some love even if Chaos literally told her she is boring

[swift flare]

you can check out the "story discussion" and see the, quote and quote, love

[broken glen]

Story discussion is a warzone

[vapid igloo]

I wish Nyx would give me a keepsake. Also in game is it canon that Seline is Nyx daughter?

[dreamy helm]

It's calmed down since release week tbh

[dreamy helm]

It's more like foster child I think but yeah

[vapid igloo]

Ah i suppose that could be true. She does like taking other peoples children

[sweet forge]

Just got an update on Switch, any patch notes or anything?

[bold hull]

i have the prerequisite boons for a duo but its not dropping. am i doing something wrong or is just rng?

[swift flare]

why does it sound so wrong the way u phrase it...

[nova oar]

No

[dreamy helm]

Bad luck unfortunately

[swift flare]

be sure to have re-roll tokens and have the Arcana card which increases duo boon chance

[nova oar]

Queen is overrated

[swift flare]

dude, what the hell is this great Chaos trial?

0 heal and start me with 30hp!?

[broken glen]

Don’t get hit

[nova oar]

Don't get hit

If it's the supay fields one then it's easy you'll be fine

[broken glen]

Can’t wait for you to roll discordant bell 🙏

[swift flare]

charon axe

[nova oar]

Don't remember doing that one

[broken glen]

I think they’re talking about great chaos above/below

[nova oar]

Ohhhhh, you can reroll the seed so just reset

[broken glen]

Nah, lock in

[swift flare]

i just notice it is a steam achievement, so gotta do it

[static drum]

if i wanted to do theorycrafting is that better in #h2-builds-and-combat

[swift flare]

but randomized to 0% healing Fear?

[bronze marlin]

chaos does not understand how fear works 😛

[nova oar]

Skill issue

[swift flare]

i always play MY fear setup, tyvm

[bronze marlin]

my chaos trials had +60% enemies, wards 2. no DDs or strength. FUN

[nova oar]

(With no frenzy)

[keen horizon]

if anyone is still reading this: rivals typhon just tossed an egg that overlapped 2/3 of chronos' instadeath ring precisely as I was arriving at it, knocking me out of the circle and costing me a run. guys. that's just an unfair mechanic. i had been hit twice the entire fight. you really need to fix this.

[spare tinsel]

my Great Chaos Below ended up using my modded Fear stuff and gave me the Boon --> Onion fear at level 3
so basically i could only get boons from the shop and from trials

[nova oar]

Skill issue

[nova oar]

Onion only has one level?

[broken glen]

🥚

[spare tinsel]

modded i said

[bronze marlin]

oh, didn't know there were fear mods out there. sounds cool to make stuff even more ridiculous

[keen horizon]

💯

[nova oar]

Ohhhhh

[spare tinsel]

my favorite run to do is +800% enemies

[bronze marlin]

oh god, no

[nova oar]

Nergal spin 2 win bouta go crazy

[bronze marlin]

add revenants 4 to the mix for MORE

[broken glen]

Chronos locked in with his army

[spare tinsel]

ive done +800% using all of the hidden aspects and also Thanatos, super fun

[buoyant matrix]

there's a hard limit to the enemy weight per wave, so after a certain point you start seeing more waves instead of more enemies per wave

[nova oar]

Oh boring

[buoyant matrix]

you have to pay very close attention to where the eggs are about to land, if it's in the safe zone you have to walk out and dash into the safe zone as the egg is landing

[spare tinsel]

things get CRAZY in Tartarus though. Youll walk into a room and there will just be like 50 Gold Coin bags waiting in there for you

[round token]

wich god gave the boon where ur cast follows you

[spare tinsel]

its a duo, i know one of them is Demeter

[round token]

godrolled heroic apollo boons for my cast so now i gotta play that

[spare tinsel]

Demeter and Ares duo

[wooden spire]

guys why do I have two athenas ? 😭

[keen horizon]

nah. it's just cheese they need to fix; done this fight a hundred times, it's happened a couple of times, it's clearly not intended that there should be a random chance of being denied access to the place you have a limited time to be without instantly losing

[spare tinsel]

the mod is called PonyAO btw, it does alot of overhaul stuff to the game that you can enable aand disable as you please, one of them is that it just added a ton of ranks to all of the vows (when it makes sense)

[wooden spire]

wait I can't send pictures here anyone got a non-sub website to upload and share picture ?

[spare tinsel]

send it in a private server then just copy the image url

[wooden spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/604116124543614996/1428119179143151717/image.png?ex=68f15721&is=68f005a1&hm=4ddf68a51026a6c81a07f2efb9dd257441677d0555536b4560bc8bbdc2e02294&

[spare tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386625846409953281/1428119289378111669/image.png?ex=68f1573b&is=68f005bb&hm=92d71410f542c7e964918434952e92b2916ff9425ad80eb7a1952186ff06cfc7&

speaking of mods, someone recently did this :3

[wooden spire]

and like it genuinely work I got two boons

[junior thorn]

hi guys, if someone can answer it would be very helpful to me

is psyche needed for something once you got every arcana and everything maxed? i have tons of it an idk if i should sell it

[spare tinsel]

used for crafting Shadow and also upgrading some of the Mel weapon aspects

[bronze marlin]

you don't need that much after maxing the arcana though. so you can sell the majority of it. like, keep 100 or so just in case

[swift flare]

frenzy 1 is on XD

[junior thorn]

ty ❤️

[swift flare]

oh man, why do I bother to gift Chaos pass 1st nectar if he's gonna RNG me THIS

granted, it's not too hard, but with 0% heal, I can't exactly go reckless

[little mason]

Just use armour

[swift flare]

btw, does Fear 99 exists in the modding community?

[spare tinsel]

way beyond, using PonyAO you can get like Fear 200

[bronze marlin]

frenzy5 and everyone has instant transmission

[spare tinsel]

Max fear with PonyAO is 268

[spare tinsel]

Frenzy 13 at 330% speed

im gonna try doing a run with only Frenzy at max, Level 13

[winter cove]

I got Circes Mega Form with Mels max stat axe

[nova oar]

Bluetooth attacks

[spare tinsel]

this is surprisingly manaageable but also terrifying

[halcyon finch]

Imagine going through olympus on F13, you'd just get gunned down

[spare tinsel]

okay im gonna go get instakilled by ||Zag|| now lmao

[unkempt zodiac]

he does do that doesnt he

[little mason]

guns dont exist in hades 2

[halcyon finch]

Turrets do

[spare tinsel]

Eris is literally right there

[halcyon finch]

Oh yeah lol

[little mason]

guns that you can use

[halcyon finch]

Well there is a mech suit...

[spare tinsel]

they never said that though, they said you would get gunned down

[granite wigeon]

does athena keep sake count against that fates thing, i assumenot

[simple sierra]

how many nightmare do I need after upgrading all aspects, not including ||familiar costumes||. Starting to swim in it

[little mason]

takes guns to get gunned down

[spare tinsel]

||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/386625846409953281/1428123649839337499/2025-10-15_16-49-05.mp4?ex=68f15b4b&is=68f009cb&hm=8793254b28c4f026f188fa0800bdafba50c09c25625b7ebaea219b4fc7813b5a&format=webp&width=550&height=309||

Lore Accurate ||Zag||

[bronze marlin]

athena does count as a god keepsake

[buoyant matrix]

not much, enjoy the swim

[round token]

finally beat vor scylla with axe 😭
now i just gotta do cerb

[simple sierra]

is there any good use for them? seeing I can't exchange for kudos

[granite wigeon]

athena boons arent that good anyway

[buoyant matrix]

nope, just a few specific cosmetics

i think it's used a little in the resource dump? not sure

[simple sierra]

dang so I don't need to be trading for them with my cards

should switch to moondust or smthn?

[round token]

how hard is vor cerberus?

[buoyant matrix]

yeah I've been hoarding those resources for a long time now
I'm sitting on a mountain of psyche, ash and bones. also have +50 nightmare and moondust

[bronze marlin]

if you can get past scylla, you can get past cerby. significantly harder than normal, but not that bad

[buoyant matrix]

people are 50/50 on it being the hardest/easiest unrivaled fight

[round token]

unrivaled?

[buoyant matrix]

the "vow of rivals" version of a bossfight

[round token]

yeah thats what i ment

[proud pumice]

On the train that I'm on someone is playing Hades 2 on their Steam deck oled

Never thought I'd see someone else playing it in the wild

[bleak scarab]

i don't think it's the hardest or the easiest vor fight

it's one of the harder ones, but this game has unrivaled chronos

[bleak scarab]

what weapon are they running

[jaunty night]

funko pop collection complete

[shrewd geyser]

Am I the only one who thinks EM Hades was scarier than VOR Chronos?

[proud pumice]

No idea too scared to ask. They just died at the second boss fight on the way to Olympus

[bronze marlin]

pretty equal for me. I get my ass handed to me by both 😛

[bleak scarab]

how do you even unlock the funko pops

Chronos is waaay harder imo

[shrewd geyser]

Fair, I just feel like the arena for chronos is soooo big it makes it less stressful to me than EM Hades who is constantly bearing down on me

[tranquil wren]

I think you need a certain amount of decorations bought and bonds forged

[nova oar]

It's one of my easiest ones

[tranquil wren]

vow of rivals cerberus is something I can kinda speed through. probably not as easy to do with higher fear though

[bleak scarab]

if we're including the surface bosses, i just don't see how cerb is easier than eris

[shrewd geyser]

Eris is so free

[bleak scarab]

or hecate for that matter

[buoyant matrix]

one of the hardest vow to add into that fight is grit3. he becomes an absolute tank

[nova oar]

I've no hit him on 55f, you just gotta get used to the frenzy and bring lovers

[tranquil wren]

I don't think I've ever taken the lovers off, except for my one judgement run

[round token]

yeah u guys were right.
just did vor cerberus 1st try

[bronze marlin]

gg

[bleak scarab]

do you honestly ever not bring lovers?

[shrewd geyser]

I think the different is when you get to cerb you should have a solid build basically completed, while Eris and Hecate it’s easy to get to them with a poop setup

[nova oar]

On non rivals? I don't normally take it

[buoyant matrix]

boss fights were mega free before unseen patch when the vow of rivals was added

[bronze marlin]

I sometimes lose to cerby if scylla beat me up too much and echo doesn't cooperate.

[round token]

scylla is a actual nightmare on vor tho. there are like 90 things to dodge at all times
and then the drummer starts doing those arena wide things

[bleak scarab]

I don't think i've played without rivals once in the past 50 hours, and i'm not even good at the game

[shrewd geyser]

This is a Scylla issue, you have to pay the dd tax

[bleak scarab]

scylla is an insane fight with rivals on

[nova oar]

Real

[bleak scarab]

i'm still not sure how to consistently beat her with an omega attack weapon with frenzy turned on

[shrewd geyser]

Scylla is the reason I don’t feel comfortable running strength, cause if I’m not built by then I will likely perish

[granite wigeon]

omg ||zag's|| keepsake is kinda good

[bleak scarab]

scylla with the Charybdis feature = gg go next

[nova oar]

It's ok

[granite wigeon]

i was wondering what third keepsake i would chose for a fates whim run

[bleak scarab]

imo the other two are just better

[shrewd geyser]

I find it hard to run compared to start first with Pom and then following with time piece

[nova oar]

I would probably take other keepsakes over card and rolex

[broken glen]

It’s not bad, but ||jpom|| better for boon scaling (lasts for the WHOLE RUN)

[granite wigeon]

i only have pom and card, idk what the chronor one does

[bleak scarab]

for me it's || pom into chrolex|| every single run

[buoyant matrix]

my charon 62 fear underworld run is currently being uploaded and it has a damageless scylla fight

[shrewd geyser]

But my rolly swagger 😩

[winter cove]

I finally got past ||Prometheus||, and Athena came in clutch when I equipped her keepsake and she replenished all my death defiances. This Axe run is blessed.

[bleak scarab]

idk, having infinite gold is pretty good

[winter cove]

First time go?

[shrewd geyser]

On high heat I have to fig leaf instead of chrolex

[broken glen]

Lets you sell chamber rewards for tons of gold. I can go into a chaos chamber and get over 500 gold with no downside!

[slim pike]

You know you're wearing a watch for fashion when you're wearing a sundial in the underworld

[granite wigeon]

spoiler much bruh

[bleak scarab]

you're crazy for that, definitely gonna be watching that

[buoyant matrix]

i got really lucky roxy barely did any full screen attacks

[granite wigeon]

mods display this guys balls

[shrewd geyser]

Kill Roxy with hammers

[broken glen]

Watch your language.

[shrewd geyser]

Bro needs to stop saying shi

[crude dragon]

It's 7:48

[nova oar]

Whack his peepee

[round token]

holy moly, aspect of thanatos + apollo legendary + psychic whirlwind + seething marauder is actually nuts
just 1 shot final phase chronos

[shrewd geyser]

whootchaaw

[limpid stream]

Oh wow apparently I had Strength turned off, oops

[nova oar]

AHHHHHH

[lucid shadow]

does anybody know if you can get npc rooms mid-trial?

[nova oar]

No

[broken glen]

Having DD instead of strength by accident is so embarrassing

The amount of times I’ve picked gorgon amulet only to then realize I was on DD the whole time 💀

[limpid stream]

No I run both usually

[broken glen]

Please do not run both at once

[rose canyon]

let her cook

[broken glen]

What is your profile 😭

[limpid stream]

Good news, apparently I wasnt

[rose canyon]

lesbian skibidi young sheldon

with a basketball frame

[broken glen]

Understood

[limpid stream]

I mean I beat ||Typhon|| finally with it off by accident and a weapon that isn’t my main so maybe I’m just bad at the game

[nova oar]

Wat

[rose canyon]

is it that weird

[limpid stream]

I don’t see why it’s an either or situation, the only time I care about Strength is in the final boss chamber anyway

[broken glen]

Have DD’s on if you’re new to the game or are running exceptionally high fear. Run strength if you’re a bit more confident, as it really does make your builds excel. It makes every hit point more valuable, and the damage bonus is great

[nova oar]

If you have both then strength is useless for 99% of the time

[buoyant matrix]

the lesbian skibidi young sheldon is pretty normal
strength and death simultaneously is not

[broken glen]

Yeah, that’s 4 grasp that could be used for cards that will be useful for the whole run

[round token]

or you just run judgement 🔥

[rose canyon]

judgment figurine

[little mason]

or just git gud

[shrewd geyser]

Don’t take this guy seriously

[broken glen]

Do not listen to this user

[buoyant matrix]

take this person with a grain of salt

[rose canyon]

don't pay attention to the above users

[round token]

the moment i unlocked all cards i've been running nothing but judgement 🙏

[broken glen]

Don’t pay attention

[little mason]

dont take this guy seriously

[nova oar]

But why

[bronze marlin]

[rose canyon]

me in the summit

[round token]

i dont have to decide on what cards i use. i just take the dice cards + the increased rare/legendary card

[broken glen]

That is psychotic

[rose canyon]

lmao

[shrewd geyser]

Fates whim makes me dislike running judgement, which feels backwards

[rose canyon]

bro might like gambling

[round token]

yeah so im running:
the queen
judgement
excellence
champions
enchantress

hasn't changed since i fully upgraded judgement

[bleak scarab]

bro is hitting that lever, i respect that

[nova oar]

Certainly an interesting way of playing

[shrewd geyser]

We need the nerd ghost stats

[round token]

how do you guys play then
i littarly do not see a more optimal way

[rose canyon]

28-30 grasp

[shrewd geyser]

I use almost every card in the top three rows and call it a day

[neon isle]

most ppl max out the damage bonuses and rolls

[bleak scarab]

running the best arcana cards for your weapon, maybe?

[round token]

you guys are psychotic

[bleak scarab]

Idk it might just be me

[neon isle]

theres definitely a meta deck but idr it off the top of my head

[shrewd geyser]

If that makes me psychotic I don’t want to be sane Dionysus take me

[bleak scarab]

there's no way you think that running judge and then for example getting all the omega move aracana cards on your build that never uses omega moves is somehow optimal

[round token]

i just start using what i get

[shrewd geyser]

He also doesn’t get fates whim, so no Pom

[meager walrus]

What if instead of judgement hitting origination i just turn on origination

[round token]

do you guys know what the song is called that you sing together with artemis in the lobby? if its an ost at all

[shrewd geyser]

There are multiple

[bleak scarab]

90% of players stop using judgement just a few runs before hitting that perfect arcana deck

[rose canyon]

Isn't judgment just needed when you turn the vow of less arcana

[little mason]

imagine telling people they are psychotic for enjoying the way they play

[round token]

i gotta hit the slots EVERY single run man

[bronze marlin]

judgement makes you stronger in the 4th zone and makes you considerably weaker for the first 3.
the last zone is not the hardest part of the run. that's why people call it bad.
and you don't even get that much stronger

[graceful badger]

Having no damage scaling on the contract boss on zone 2 is dumb.

[neon isle]

judgement isnt really that weak

[meager walrus]

Objectively, you are weaker early game with judgement

You may be stronger late game if you hit the correct arcana but you are only at best stronger by the "next best arcana" that you wouldn't have taken

[bleak scarab]

get that piggy keepsake to hit the lever even harder

[neon isle]

u can still activate four other cards

[shrewd geyser]

Judgement into Zag in first mid shop, I feel like Prometheus the way I can see how that ends

[lime trellis]

Just finished main story I’m hype to keep playing there’s so much to doooo

[round token]

thats what i do yeah :)

[granite wigeon]

lol i beat rivals tython, feels kinda not very much harder than the normal one

[graceful badger]

As long as you don't expect the polish as I did

[granite wigeon]

||bruh what there is morelmao ||

[round token]

oooh does getting dice trough judgement ruin fates whim?

[rose canyon]

It's only fair. No bonus for you, no bonus for Zag

[shrewd geyser]

Yes that’s why I hate it

[granite wigeon]

||bruh what he revived with liek 1 hp lol||

||i ate a large ammount of dmg during that funny segment so i was worried there was gonna be an entire mega hard phase lol||

[crude dragon]

Yes, though you allegedly can't get the reroll arcana drawn until you invalidate Fates' Whim

[lime trellis]

I got spoiled like day 1. Tbh I dont mind the main story and what I expected was so overblown bad I was honestly happy with what we got

[round token]

wait so as long as i dont intentionally ruin it. judgement doesn't even ruin it?
then whats the problem

[shrewd geyser]

Wait really? So you can game it?

[granite wigeon]

i think this might actually be my first staff clear lol, atleast my first surface staff clear

[shrewd geyser]

I didn’t know that

[round token]

wait so judgement is even better on fates whim since you get rid of some cards of the pool
bet

[crude dragon]

If you don't pick up a god keepsake on a Fates' Whim/Judgement run, you will not get Enchantress, Champions, or Fates drawn. So the story goes @round token @shrewd geyser

[round token]

i still need to get the fckng claling card tho. i never get the parchment on a good moment. i've only seen it on first shop

[bronze marlin]

it is better yes. just don't call it "even" better hah

[granite wigeon]

erm what i think mel did a piece sign when she was doing the shadowthing lmao

[crude dragon]

Same for running Pig or drawing cards at Circe

[round token]

judgement is my favorite way to play :D

[granite wigeon]

atleast one of her hands was raised, hadent seen that before

[bronze marlin]

it is fun! I give you that

[crude dragon]

Yeah, she does that if you win

[round token]

is there a way to force the parchment spawn? i really wan'tt calling card

[rose canyon]

tips for black coat? only need a clear with it to fulfill sword of night

[shrewd geyser]

No :(

[granite wigeon]

ig i missed it every other time lol

[round token]

get zeus or poseidon special and just spam ur special uncharged and run around bosses

[crude dragon]

The OAttack is really bad, you generally want to focus on the Specials

[round token]

no its not.
black coat is very very good if you learn the timings

and the attack speed build is funny asf

[lime trellis]

Specials are great on it but slow, good to speed those up via Hermes or do some smash n crashing

[lime trellis]

I love the omega attack it’s like a wall

[round token]

hammer has a 80% speed buff to special launch etc.
and one that increases its power by +5 on each hit

black coat has INSANE hammers

[shrewd geyser]

Chiron bow my beloved

[crude dragon]

Exhaust Riser gaming

[lime trellis]

Yeah the hammers on it are insane. Love this as the “last weapon” much more than the gun in the first game lmaoo

[vapid igloo]

really? The special seemed to such even more

[rose canyon]

adamant rail is eh

[lime trellis]

Eris can KEEP IT

[shrewd geyser]

Rail was sweet but I was a bow fan

[vapid igloo]

Bow, Rail or Spear

[round token]

my favorite one is shimmering rockets (specials bounce to up to 2 more foes) + ripper rockets (Your Specials briefly gain +5 Power for up to 5 consecutive hits to the same foe.)

and then with poseidon boon with ares duo and poseidon legendary 🤤

[shrewd geyser]

Bow fists or spear

[vapid igloo]

any one of them would do

[round token]

and black coat has the highest attack speed potential aswell. its super fun
and it doesn't have a combo finisher either so you can just machinegun everything

[shrewd geyser]

Or arthur I could never deny arthur

[vapid igloo]

Ya Arthur was fun to use

[shrewd geyser]

Nah this has to be Hel not coat

[vapid igloo]

Gilgamesh was meh

[round token]

you know the ares boon that heals you on hit right?

[rose canyon]

killing spree?

[vapid igloo]

Guan Yu was terrible

[round token]

i had the highest possible attack speed on coat (ares legendary etc.)
and activated a autoclicker

i healed trough my death XD

[shrewd geyser]

Hades spear was my fav melee weapon I think

[vapid igloo]

Shield was pretty fun

[lime trellis]

Low-key enjoyed it but the magnetic gloves are just too good an aspect for me

[rose canyon]

I liked Malphon

[vapid igloo]

i always throw the spear

[shrewd geyser]

Actually demeter fists was also awesome

[round token]

aspect of selene is super decent aswell

[vapid igloo]

after finally maxing Nurgle i do agree its fun

[shrewd geyser]

I love nerg

Arthur but easy basically

[vapid igloo]

but i still prefer Thanatos

[nova oar]

Nurgburgring goes crazy

[round token]

it sucks that aspect of shiva feels horrendous to use
i do not see it being better then any other aspect

[shrewd geyser]

Bro hasn’t put Apollo on the special and it shows

[nova oar]

False

Or the attack

[bronze marlin]

bouncy o special is fun, even if you never use the o attack

[static drum]

24 heat surface down, aspect of supay my beloved

[vapid igloo]

only Coat aspect i like is Selenie

[rose canyon]

Nyx is fun

[shrewd geyser]

I can’t rock with Supay but I may have a dented head and haven’t tried a good build

[round token]

sky fall is a very fun hex

[vapid igloo]

the rockets feel to bad

[static drum]

No Nyx goes dummy, rushing into someone then curbstomping them with a bunch of twinned poseidon attacks is awesome

[round token]

nyx is probably my favorite

[vapid igloo]

maybe cause i dont use Poseidon much

[round token]

especially with poseidon legendary

[static drum]

Hestia Poseidon Zeus, any combo works as long as you have at least one splash/froth on special or attack, probably want zeus rush

[shrewd geyser]

No beach ball?

[static drum]

What is beach ball

[vapid igloo]

Only two gods i actively go for are Hestia on Hel or Anubis and Aphrodite with the Axe or Blades

[shrewd geyser]

No shot a Supay main just asked me that

[shrewd geyser]

It’s the Apollo Poseidon duo boon for rush

[static drum]

I don't think i've ever taken apollo poseidon together

[vapid igloo]

i never grab rush unless i need it for a duo

[static drum]

Apollo i use when i'm doing like hera demeter cast stuff

[shrewd geyser]

I’m about to change your Supay life buddy

[vapid igloo]

quite a few of the duos in this feel pointless

[crude dragon]

There's some stinkers (Natural Selection is still garbage), but that was the case even in the first game

[slim pike]

You take that back! Glorious Disaster is amazing!

[crude dragon]

For once I wasn't talking about that one

[shrewd geyser]

But now that it’s on my radar, trash

[crude dragon]

But since you brought it up...
:3

[slim pike]

yeah... but it's at least a fun kind of bad

natural selection is just... Probably okay in a numeric sense but like... yawn

[crude dragon]

It's not fun

[bronze marlin]

just play with onion + denial and you will never see a duo again

[crude dragon]

I also really wish they changed Brave Face's requirements so, at minimum, Tough Gain counts as a prerequisite

[slim pike]

extend a danaid dagger in the final zone and take a fancy watch with you and you won't need boons at all

[lucid shadow]

i am so mad

i haven't got circe for five surface runs in a ROW

[shrewd geyser]

That was the last relationship I maxed

[lucid shadow]

i just have her affinity left ugh

at this point im blazing through ephyra in like 2 minutes IGT just to see her

[lyric zenith]

Imma be honest, 32 fear kinda underwhelming.

[shrewd geyser]

32 heat beat me down in Hades 1 I had to hone myself to beat it for the first time. Maybe it’s skill transfer and whatnot but 32 fear felt very free, I had to climb a lot of fear to feel comparable

[lyric zenith]

Didn't stuck me nearly as long as 32 heat, although idk if that's actually a difficulty difference or I've played Hades before and so it feels easier.

[little mason]

try it without arcana or a pet try it with just judgement

[granite wigeon]

yea there are too many easy vows lol

[bronze marlin]

you probably were already better at picking your vows here.
I remember struggling with 32 heat as I kept picking absolutely bad stuff over there. more hp EM4

[shrewd geyser]

Hmm I think, yeah more enemies doesn’t sound too bad…. Let’s toss on some more HP and Damage I don’t mind, Forced Overtime? Sure thing

[mental forge]

Oooooooooooh update I hope it’s good

[crude dragon]

Probably just more bug fixes

[meager walrus]

Strength nerfed again

:^)

[bronze marlin]

You take 5% less damage and deal 7,5% more

[turbid walrus]

Is there a reason why during the hecate fight your mouse becomes a hand while hovering over her?

[shrewd geyser]

@crude dragon

[pallid cradle]

If you can run rivals 3 even remotely consistently it's actually a joke. You can replace anything that made it a little difficult in early access.

[meager walrus]

(Im just joking)

[bronze marlin]

seems to be console only? I don't see anything on steam 🤔

[lyric zenith]

Makes sense, I did kind of DD through most of it since I'm bad at frenzy 2 rn.

It took 398 damage from Chronos after zoning out in phase 2.

[pallid cradle]

Rivals 3 allows you to turn off both scars and pain if you really wanna. You don't even need Rivals 4 on.

[shrewd geyser]

You can do rivals 2 without scars and pain pretty handily

[lyric zenith]

^

[bronze marlin]

or go slow with timer 2. lot's of options

[pallid cradle]

For underworld I'd honestly consider rivals 3 free.

If you can beat Scylla you shouldn't be dying to Cerb. On the surface tho there's a legit reason to stick to 2.

[teal zephyr]

Wouldn't recommend going anywhere near pain for 32 no matter what

[shrewd geyser]

This is true, just sayin for peeps who don’t wanna learn cerb

[lyric zenith]

I'm on rivals 3, frenzy/menace/fangs/time/hubris 2, denial/hordes/shadow 1

[granite wigeon]

frenzy lol

[pallid cradle]

I used it for pretty much all my pre-rivals 32s

[shrewd geyser]

I’d rather frenzy over pain all day

[tropic monolith]

Rivals prom feels pretty free to me, there must be a playstyle thing

[forest hawk]

Rivals on heaven run is tough

[shrewd geyser]

What weaps do you main

[tropic monolith]

various?

I just hit and run prommy and ignore the addition until he's dead

[shrewd geyser]

lol I usually do the opposite and succeed fairly well as well

[bronze marlin]

I'd put him next to scylla. chronos > prom/scylla > typhon

[lyric zenith]

Always greed damage during memory game

[shrewd geyser]

What’s the point of all that time in a 1v1 if I can’t use it to greed damage and ultimately forget one of the lanes

[tropic monolith]

not phasing ||Heracles|| before Prom is down is part of why it's easier for me, I suspect

[shrewd geyser]

True if you don’t phase him you don’t have to deal with the spinning top

[granite wigeon]

first phase he is barily present lol

[tropic monolith]

exactly

so I ignore him and it's basically like the base Prom fight 😛

[reef cedar]

Since rolling credits and waking Hypnos, I have three tasks left to do:
1: Find the Fates
2: Bond with Arachne
3: Bond with Icarus

For the first task, the hints I've found involve ||exploring both the Under and Overworld, while also getting contact with an envoy||. I'm guessing Moros/Mr. Doom is ||the envoy, and he has mentioned searching the void for the fates||. But the only location I can think of that involves ||void|| is Chaos. Is he related in any way?

[tropic monolith]

||For the first, there should be a list of people to bond with on the fated prophecies||

[shrewd geyser]

Yes right track

[shrewd geyser]

They aren’t there yet, first they need to visit the tri generational freak

[reef cedar]

If "He" refers to me, I'm non-binary and my pronouns are they/them. I'd prefer not to be referred to as "he", please and thank you :).

[shrewd geyser]

My b

[pale pier]

14 achievements left 💔 72% completed

[shrewd geyser]

Don’t rush it, I have nothing to do now 😭

[pale pier]

At late game, this is the only thing keeping me not bored

The ones I’m missing, are the very hard super late game ones which will take a lot of grinding

[lyric zenith]

What's a good step up from 32 I can look to do later on?

[tranquil wren]

the NPC questlines were the last for me

[tropic monolith]

ah I guess I did that step by accident just doing runs ><

[thin laurel]

I’m slowly doing 40 fear all aspects UW and surface, which is a decent step up from 32
I want to do it with rivals 4 which is making it harder tho lol, you can get past 40f with only rivals 3 and prob have an easier time 🤷 up to you, just push for a new personal best or X fear every aspect imo

[lucid shadow]

six surface runs in a row without circe. i got so mad i let Eris kill me even though I was on 4 minutes IGT and i never completed rift so fast

[tranquil wren]

bruh

[atomic river]

WE ALL joining

[craggy totem]

Folks am I simply just a weird little gremlin or is Exhaust Riser hella fun to take on Xinth

Well, I mean, I am simply just a weird little gremlin, but like, specifically about this

[thin laurel]

it’s very fun lol
iirc used to be the best build on Mel coat, with splash attack

[crude dragon]

Gotta update my name to The post-post-nerf Strength Arcana now

<@&456908176877551658> Crush its skull

Thank you

[flat glacier]

[craggy totem]

It does apply attack stuff thrice, right? It certainly felt like it, but maybe just imagined it lol

[thin laurel]

uhhhh god is someone here more of a coat fan, I may be misremembering but doesn’t base coat dash attack hit 3 times already so w exhaust riser it’s 9…?

[shrewd geyser]

No lol

[thin laurel]

haven’t taken that hammer since like. warsong update, idk, I need to play mel coal more

[crude dragon]

No, it just adds 3 so it becomes 6 total

[bronze marlin]

can scorch the heck out of everyone, that's for sure

[nocturne grove]

Screw prometheus and charybdis

[runic glade]

Do you guys think the black coat is good? I can’t seem to beat a run with it

[craggy totem]

Like, just a normal run with no difficulty mods? I think that's probably just playstyle tbh

[thin laurel]

oh it’s +3 not x3 aha ty

[crude dragon]

Mel Coat is very mediocre, you want to look more into the alt aspects

[craggy totem]

For me, I actively struggled with Surface runs until I unlocked coat... /gremlin

[nocturne grove]

But I think I will try to make a demeter build work

I had the legendary for it too

[thin laurel]

does exhaust riser interact with nyx at all? asked yesterday but nobody online responded lol

[craggy totem]

I even tried taking the much-beloved staff on a Rivals 3 attempt and got so frustrated trying to fight Eris that I immediately switched to coat the next attempt

[runic glade]

Like nyx and Selene? What boons is good? And what should I focus on the special?

[tidal cliff]

||I hate fighting rivals typhon with dagger.. I’m trying to hit typhon and chronos is constantly pulling me in with the suck move||

[craggy totem]

Sounds like ||daggers aren't great in a vacuum|| 😎

[thin laurel]

same lol, which is why every time I play rivals 4 with Mel Blades I just cheese it with heph blasts on special since I can’t be bothered to deal with the attack range
(and lmao escalier)

[crude dragon]

Yeah, and the hidden Coat as well. Selene requires you to take Ares at some point for the Godsent, and Nyx wants a lot of on-hit effects like Poseidon waves and chain lightning

[minor cape]

dash attacks don't get nightspawn im almost certain

[crude dragon]

And ideally you take Ares attack or special for Wounds T2s

[thin laurel]

makes sense, ty
I never use them on nyx but got offered the hammer and second guessed myself lol

[shrewd geyser]

The chaos trial baited me with this

[runic glade]

So for nyx I focus on attack and using the omega special? Selene seems very omega

[jolly hound]

aim for Zeus chain lightning and infusion

[thin laurel]

nyx is normal attack and normal special, the only omega you generally use is the unique dash

[runic glade]

Which infusion?

[static drum]

okay what are you supposed to do about VoR cerberus? he has a similar attack to chronos where he has a safe zone, but its MUCH faster, and even with faster sprint and dashes I couldn't reach it even a single time

I was even trying to keep somewhat close to the center

[shrewd geyser]

Pay attention to the order the big danger zones appear in, once the early ones pop you can dash into them and be okay

[craggy totem]

TBH I feel like just a bit of omega special whenever you get a moment does fine to charge Skyfall, but I acknowledge I'm not exactly going for optimal%

[shrewd geyser]

Unless you mean the big safe zone around him… in that case you just gotta be quick

[static drum]

No, no, not that attack. The one similar to Chronos's clock instakill or Roxie's safezone thing

[static drum]

💀 i couldn't make it even with the faster sprint hermes boon

[shrewd geyser]

Gotta be quicker than that

[craggy totem]

Can you iframe through it? /curious

[thin laurel]

when are you starting to move? generally if he disappears I head towards the middle of the arena and look for the area he’s about to pop up in
if you start moving when the insta-death warning field appears that sounds trickier

[crude dragon]

You don't use OSpecial because it won't get duplicated by Nightspawn

[jolly hound]

Zeus’s 50 damage per hit minimum

[craggy totem]

Air Quality

[static drum]

thats probably a good idea

[elfin heron]

gameplay 10/10. story and some character design? 1/10. hope next hades game actually makes sense in terms of story and character looks

[tranquil wren]

if we get a sequel, that is

[craggy totem]

Team No More Sequels rise up

[crude dragon]

Similar to the base fight, when he does his burrow and donut, you want to start to chase him the moment he re-emerges

[timber bough]

quick q, does doing the chaos trials also push dialogue forward?

[crude dragon]

Don't even wait for the cast, because he basically always does that donut after a burrow

[timber bough]

im tired of doing my to the end boss runs and i want more story progression

[crude dragon]

They will, yes

[static drum]

Maybe i'll be more prepared next time, it was my first time seeing the VoR fight

[tranquil wren]

personally I would love Hades 3, but I can see people wanting a new IP

[timber bough]

thought so, thanks

[craggy totem]

Isn't the issue with Chaos trials that some of them are short, so not enough time passes to trigger new dialogue? Maybe I just got unlucky and made up an explanation...

[cosmic pelican]

Does anyone know the exact requirements for unlocking the Selene relationship? I have won runs with her aspect but it seems like she's out of dialogue, just saying generic things.

[craggy totem]

You have to ||max aspect of Selene||

[static drum]

I think it would probably be better/cooler if they went the Rick Riordan route and did another mythology. Shinto lore is extraordinarily deep and kind of underexplored, but Norse/Egyptian could also be neat

[thin laurel]

I like their original worlds a lot and I miss them… I wanna see the same level of polish and scale that hades 2 has applied to something completely original 🤷

[tranquil wren]

tbf I've never played any of their previous games

[cosmic pelican]

I have long since done that

[craggy totem]

Pyre was bonkers, Transistor was crypto-bonkers, idk just lots of offbeat worldbuilding, v fun

[thin laurel]

I think hades 1 and 2 beat their other games in terms of raw gameplay, but I looooove transistor, want to see more of that vibe

[tranquil wren]

I've heard they all have tragic or semi-tragic endings, so that's kind of put me off

[cosmic pelican]

somewhat

bittersweet maybe? I think they have excellent writing.

[timber bough]

also anything other than keep doing runs to unlock ||icarus's progression||?

[thin laurel]

also transistor’s gameplay gimmick is really unique and rly cool and I love it, the combat overall is kind of slow paced (red walks around like she has a permanent chaos curse) but the level of build control reminds me a lot of hades tbh, you have SO many options and the world is weird and neat

[craggy totem]

Pyre especially was them getting goddamn weird with everything -- mechanics, design, etc. Let SGG be weird again

[craggy totem]

Just that, I'm afraid. It took me forever too, just RNG.

[cosmic pelican]

Pyre is the only game of theirs I haven't finished despite the great writing and music and general interesting vibes. I just couldn't enjoy playing pyreball

[craggy totem]

Totally fair, I think that going experimental is gonna lose you some share (and just straightup miss the mark in some cases, even). but still worth doing, for a creative team, imo

[tranquil wren]

how long was the gap between Hades 1 v1.0 and Hades 2 announcement?

[cosmic pelican]

pretty long?

[unreal temple]

4 years

[tranquil wren]

WHAT

[timber bough]

this is just like H1 where it took me literally 20 runs to get something out of aphrodite

[tranquil wren]

it's joever

[craggy totem]

Me spotting video thumbnails with Darren and man's got salt'n'pepa just like me now

[unreal temple]

Actually it was a little less than 4 years something like 3.5 years

[timber bough]

same, my friends and i have all played all SG games between ourselves and prye's music is fire but i heard weird basketball and was like yeah probs not

[static drum]

Okay, how do you use Shiva? Just OSpecial -> OAttack?

[timber bough]

transistor is my absolute favorite tho

[tranquil wren]

welp. I guess there are other games to fill the void. I don't know what though. silksong was not at all what I hoped it would be

[cosmic pelican]

In what way?

[tranquil wren]

I'm not really sure. like it's a great game but it doesn't make me want to replay it

[unreal temple]

A game from Shovel Knight devs is releasing in oct 31 called Mina the Hollower I'm looking forward to it

[tranquil wren]

yes!

I have that wishlisted, I am very excited for it

[thin laurel]

fair enough! I ended up wanting to replay it more than I did Hollow Knight but I have no idea why. they’re just kinda different in various ways

[tropic monolith]

that's how I felt about hollow knight...

[tranquil wren]

maybe with DLC it'll feel a bit better

[unreal temple]

I'm holding myself from replaying Silksong mostly because I wanna wait for DLC

[tranquil wren]

which will likely take them an additional 4 years with radio silence

[lyric zenith]

Opposite experience. Silksong captured me a lot more for replaying than HK, but I thought the Skong blind experience was horrendous.

[unreal temple]

Yeah I can't wait to play it, had a lot of fun with the demo

[tranquil wren]

yeah playing silksong early and mid game was just painful as hell. it only got more fun during late act 2 and all of act 3 imo

[craggy totem]

TBF she's just a singer, ain't done no combat training or calisthenics or whatnot... lady's doing good under the circumstances 😂

[unreal temple]

Hopefully not that long considering TC pulled off the Hollow Knight DLCs in a relatively small time window

[tranquil wren]

true. hopefully the DLCs are similar in scope (as in a couple of new bossfights and a story for a pantheon-type DLC)

[unreal temple]

I fear their scope is a bit larger this time since they mentioned their ideas are "quite ambitious" but we'll see lol

[devout cairn]

uh oh

[unreal temple]

What happened

[jolly hound]

If you want a hard roguelike try Returnal prob need strong computer or ps5 for it to run ngl

[devout cairn]

it got delayed

[unreal temple]

Oh crap I didn't notice 😭

Delayed to when exactly or no word?

[devout cairn]

they don't know anymore

[tranquil wren]

omg I'm gonna crash out

[devout cairn]

2026 i guess

[craggy totem]

ITT game nerds come to terms with their own mortality

....appropriate, I suppose, for a channel about a game set in the Underworld.

[unreal temple]

I was heavily convinced of it coming out on oct 31 so now I'm gonna have to reevaluate my decisions

[hazy glacier]

How many times do i gotta talk to moros until he gives me hidden aspect of ygnium ? Like i have lvl 5 and unlocked the other ones but he just keeps yappin

[tranquil wren]

why are you speaking like a redditor

[tranquil wren]

need a lvl 5 in a non-mel aspect

[hazy glacier]

ooh so for every unlock u need a non mel aspect ?

[devout cairn]

yes

[tranquil wren]

at level 5 yeah

[hazy glacier]

god dam i have done so many runs with only lvl 5 mel aspect

[tranquil wren]

aspect of moros and eos are super strong anyway, so it's not a bad thing

[hazy glacier]

i have been wondering too how come circe and medea aint giving me phrases

but how come in the wiki it says get any aspect to lvl 5

[tranquil wren]

outdated info

[tranquil wren]

know of any other darling indie games similar in genre?

[devout cairn]

wikis are unreliable, take the stuff there with a grain of salt

[devout cairn]

Pipistrello and the Cursed Yoyo

if you were excited for Mina I can't imagine you not atleast being curious after watching the trailer for that

[thin laurel]

still hoping and praying that we get a non-fandom wiki for the hades franchise at some point…

[tranquil wren]

fextra

[unreal temple]

Similar to Mina the Hollower? Don't think so, but another game I've waiting for this year was Moonlighter 2 which is releasing on november and that's about it

[craggy totem]

What the hell Tartarus does this mean (the last time I used Reddit was to help people identify spiders)

...do they uses a lot of ellipses...?

[tropic monolith]

ITT people realize ITT is more of a redditor term

...I guess? Something?

I don't know

[craggy totem]

/crumbles to dust
No, I'm just from the age of forums.

[tropic monolith]

yeah I thought calling a discord chat a thread was a bit weird

[tranquil wren]

"why are you speaking like a forum user" doesn't have the same ring to it

[tropic monolith]

they're called "forumites"

[devout cairn]

"why are you old"

[thin laurel]

just had to look up what ITT meant </3 glad I’m not redditor passing I guess

information technology… technology… technology, new echo boon just dropped

[craggy totem]

LMAO

[devout cairn]

with Mina and Cairn delayed I only have Dispatch to look foward to this month

[thin laurel]

idk, I think I narrowly missed the age of forum chatting, I was on some but mainly when they were falling off.
or like... idk, "forums attached to an online class where a bunch of middle school creative writing nerds chatted with their own bespoke slang"

[craggy totem]

You get to preview what boons will be offered in the next message from Olympus and pick one right now, that's information technology. Reverse echo.

Er... would have been offered, I guess. 🤔

[thin laurel]

the titan of time would approve of you correcting the tense of your verb
the real final boss is conjugation

[tranquil wren]

lol

[magic scarab]

||vow of rivals 4 will not apear for me ive rolled credits and beaten the vow of rivals for cerberus and the titan of foresight||

[nova oar]

Have you unlocked the second statue

[magic scarab]

yes

[nova oar]

All weapons and aspects?

[magic scarab]

all wepons not all aspects

[nova oar]

You need all aspects iirc

[tranquil wren]

you've rolled credits but not unlocked all aspects? that's kinda crazy

[unkempt zodiac]

does this imply you need the hidden aspects too?

[magic scarab]

including hidden

[nova oar]

Yes to both

[devout cairn]

I also did that

[tranquil wren]

fair enough

[magic scarab]

i have all but the hidden ones

[craggy totem]

I don't think it's that crazy, you can get through the main story pretty much without unlocking any aspects

[tranquil wren]

tbf I think it's because I had my EA save, so ignore me

[nova oar]

Same here i had them all maxed the day they released

[runic glade]

Good boons for aspect of pan?

[nova oar]

Pos special

[runic glade]

Cast not as important?

[surreal jacinth]

Anything that lets you target the cast honestly

[nova oar]

Not really

[thin laurel]

a cast with a status curse is nice for origination 🤷 but the specifics matter less, the cast won't be your main damage source

[runic glade]

Target the cast? What’s lets me do that?

[jolly hound]

This was the case for me too

[surreal jacinth]

Uhhhh at least Zeus and Hestia. And|| Hades ||I guess

[thin laurel]

hestia and zeus both have boons that let you use your cast at range instead of dropping it right underneath you
one god NPC on each route also offers a boon like that (||dionysius and hades||) but they're a bit harder to utilize at times

[craggy totem]

Yeah, I would say the spoilered two don't let you target it directly. They give you range, but not full control over the rangedness.

[thin laurel]

also with pan if you get lucky and get offered trick knives from an early Daedalus hammer you can change your build path a lot, and do something like blitz attack + aphrodite special (or another % special boon), altho poseidon is still fine

[thin laurel]

I think one of them lets you aim it....? at least if you're using mouse, it aims like skull Ω attack, it's just slow to land and throws off timing
but the other is finicky and auto aims itself in annoying ways

[craggy totem]

It's possible my annoyance has clouded my perception lmao

No, now that I run back the brain tapes, you're totally right, I'm just being mean to ||Dionysus|| for no reason 😆 That'll teach em to offer me only ||Time 4 Debt, Mystery Health Lol, and RNG Damage||

[nocturne grove]

Air quality is so disgustingly good

Especially if you have ms grandma in the pool

[jolly hound]

facts

[nova oar]

Real

[nocturne grove]

I was trying to get her legendary and I had 4 air with air quality in the final shop I had both demeter and zeus

[nova oar]

Based combo

[nocturne grove]

So no legendary but gust air quality

[jolly hound]

200 dps dash is nuts

[nocturne grove]

Oh I also had scorch dash from hestia lol

[jolly hound]

based

[nocturne grove]

I set up so many good duos and legendaries but got none

[timid vigil]

is the info on the wiki still right about how to earn Selene's trust?

[jolly hound]

I think you need to max out her aspect to get max trust but if someone else says differently go with them

[timid vigil]

yeah that's what it says on the wiki but I had her aspect maxed out for a while now and I just don't get the dialogue

Granted I don't use the aspect a lot, I don't like the coat, but idk

[broken glen]

Now, I will say: it doesn’t work on a lot, but when it does work, it’s crazy. This is because the damage boost from air quality is the very last buff applied (for some reason)- past Olympian boons, global buffs, etcetera. So it oftentimes won’t have any effect on core boons once you Pom them enough, as their damage will exceed 50. However, on things like Demeter’s arctic gale, and static shock, it’s a lot harder to get damage above 50: making it perfect for air quality

[nocturne grove]

I was already planning for me to get screwed and built around somehow activating air quality lol, I used my poms only on my special

[honest solar]

should i play Bastion or more hades 2

[nova oar]

More hades 2

[nocturne grove]

Which was freeze, I was hoping to get the zeus duo

[thin laurel]

• it can buff your weapon damage when you play stuff with low base damage + blitz, splash, or scorch
  i.e. I believe Supay's base damage is 10 and 15, and even with origination +furies/huntress that's not going to reach 50 damage

[jolly hound]

You might need to see her while wearing it. Try a new run with the moon keepsake

[hardy stone]

I had a Melinoë staff run with Air Quality, Double Thrasher, Support Fire and heavy Chain Lightning. Crowd control was ridiculous.

[timid vigil]

I'll try that thanks

[nocturne grove]

Dude I wish I got support fire, I got offered special crit and that went crazy too

[honest solar]

why

[ivory slate]

Favorite attack boons for morrigan?

[devout cairn]

heph is fun

[novel turtle]

Very late but I love debt time solely for the bit.

[ivory slate]

Im liking ares but im considering trying something new.

[atomic river]

my game crashed in the chronos fight and i lost the whole run... i was gonna beat him on 50 fear for the first time too 😭

[thin laurel]

apollo, hera, and hestia are all fun attack boons on morrigan imo
but I like almost everything on that weapon. if I take heph on morrigan I'd rather do special tho, seems kinda wasted on attack

[thin laurel]

#h2-tech-fixes message

[atomic river]

it barely happens so its not that big of a deal just sad

[thin laurel]

you should be able to get your save back if you follow the intructions linked there tho
edit: oh sorry, the one ABOVE what I linked

[atomic river]

idk if i wanna do allat thooo

maybe ill get storm ring instead of smoler ring this time

[novel turtle]

Chronos just said to do it again, coward

[honest solar]

is the chronos from rivals 4 typhon the same as you meet as the chronos in uw in the next run?

[cosmic pelican]

Is there a thorough guide somewhere on what I need to do to get rid of the "needed resource" marker for stuff? Or what constitutes being "needed" I feel like I've done literally everything but still have tons of stuff marked as needed and I wanna start recycling it all to kudos. Stuff still marked: ashes, psyche, moly, myrtle, shaderot, moss, iris, fangs, cattail, poppy, garlic, snake-reed, flux. I've gone through the wikis and cant find anything that would still need most of this stuff. Or could it just be a bug?

[novel turtle]

Decor probably

[crude dragon]

Hera

[dusk mirage]

Hello chat, is there a way to turn Athena blessings into ||gold with gramps keepsake|| cause i just saw the ||Arachne and Athena interactions|| and would like to never be blessed by her again

[ivory slate]

thats hitch right? Whats so special about it.

[dusk mirage]

You know what just turn ||Athena|| into ||gold||
She'll be way more useful then

[nova oar]

No

[crude dragon]

Hitch will transfer the damage from Blood Triad to all Hitched enemies

[nova oar]

Hitch is amazing

[novel turtle]

I haven’t gotten ||Athena|| to talk about ||Arachne|| with me and now I’m scared to

[dusk mirage]

I'm actually sorry for spoiling it kek

[novel turtle]

Nono I knew how it was going and was lowkey dreading it, but achievement calls

[dusk mirage]

Prom proving once again why he's always right and the goat

[devout cairn]

based prom truther

🗣️

[hazy glacier]

anyone know which enemies have the "seeker" perk from the fangs fear

[jolly hound]

its random

[olive fog]

Can a helping hand character spawn two floors in a row? Example, if I find Medea, can I still find Circe on the next floor?

[hearty fog]

Yes.

[honest solar]

you only find medea in the first ephyra location tho wdym

[little frost]

each region has its own aid npc that can just happen

they dont interact rng wise

[wind heron]

i wonder if nem wears like facepaint because she's so pale outside the bath

[dense olive]

Would talking about what music is and isn't in the game be spoilers?

[runic glade]

Hmm aspect of pan don’t seem as good compared to the others, I put the positing special but not doing as much damg

[dense olive]

|| A version of "it's in the blood" should've been in the game tbh ||

[nova oar]

It is in the game iirc

[bronze stream]

Im almost starting to not like any of the helper guys because of how they drag out the encounters

Frozen timer or not it just makes it take longer

Unless you count Athena as one, she can stay

Though I question why she doesnt just kill typhon herself

[digital tulip]

The unskippable cutscenes of the ending finally broke me ... the out-of-runs progression is already very, very long. So do you get the Fate's Whim keepsakes right after the ending?

[thin laurel]

you get 2 of them by gifting nectar to characters you couldn't before
you get one by ||defeating a secret boss twice||
the best one is the easiest to get, just gift some nectar to an UW mid-run NPC you couldn't gift before

[thin laurel]

if you want specific spoilers on how to get them:

1. ||gift hades in the tartarus NPC room||
2. ||interact with chronos until you can gift him; this is easiest to do in the room between erebus and oceanus, but may require doing a surface run or two as well, I'm not sure, I got this one last||
3. ||look for something new in mid-shops and interact with it during 2 runs|| more explicit spoiler ||that will lead you to a secret optional boss fight, beating it twice rewards the keepsake||

[novel turtle]

Playing like Dionysus lives life is proving to be hard now that I'm amping up in fear

[thin laurel]

real
at some point "worry free" becomes "worry more"

[craggy totem]

? I wish the bot would tell you what you actually said

Anyway, ||Dio having exactly three RNG mystery Hahaha Who Cares boons is so trolly||

[novel turtle]

Yeahhh, I grabbed them once for the list now avoid them like the plauge

[craggy totem]

I guess this is why people like having rerolls >_>

[thin laurel]

when reckless abandon isn't awful it's kinda fun
it's just that the scenarios where that's true are rare af, and usually require air quality too

but idk, I should do more supay/anubis/hel runs with that combo, hmmm.

[humble urchin]

just hit success rate 5head

[thin laurel]

tbh I should maybe start doing a fun run or two first ever time I open the game.
sometimes I try high fear or a speed attempt immediately and play soooo bad, I think I need to warm up I just don't ever do that

but idk, going from trying 54 and losing a DD to hecate one attempt to trying 54 and taking <20 damage from every boss other than chronos (and no hitting some of them) was like. oh. right. maybe warm up a little bit

[novel turtle]

embarrassing thing, I just figured out how the aspect of Eos works after a solid multiple wins with it already

[humble urchin]

my warmup is a casual speedy run with rivals 4 and frenzy 2 with whatever aspect im planning to run

[craggy totem]

That's a helluva warmup lol

[thin laurel]

now that you understand you should try it with the Night arcana card 👀 it's fun...
and Ωspec > Ωatk > Ωspec means you get crit on both moves until your daybreaker disappears

[humble urchin]

like not full speedrun mode, but kinda going fast to force your reflexes to work

[thin laurel]

my current hurdle is turning on pain, too, so I rly need to get better at no hitting things... pain + grit is rough to get used to

[novel turtle]

lowkey, it's probably active. I'm a Judgement user

[thin laurel]

oooooh.... a rare judgement user... I haven't touched it since uh. before ares was in the game, iirc

[humble urchin]

could do a no persistence/wayward run and force yourself to focus even more on dodging for that warmup run

[unkempt wing]

what is the soundtrack of the ||zagreus fight|| called?

[novel turtle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1184669466441830401/1426469026065940580/2025102.JPG?ex=68f1450e&is=68eff38e&hm=ca7159948d717602c99677fbb751bfdb8cc2d262d7239859fbdf9ac5c25b6d0e&=&format=webp&width=1521&height=856 + Crystal figurine are my go to start

[thin laurel]

oh! then you start with night active from the start

[novel turtle]

(Screenshot from before I had the cards all max) OH NICE

Now that I'm looking at it lmao yeah I love night

[thin laurel]

truuuue... I also should do more non-persistence runs for "white antler with no armor" practice, for speeds
it's just nice to have as a safety net early on in a run lol, I can usually nearly no hit gramps when doing speeds but sometimes oceanus randomly screws me over

[unkempt wing]

a

[novel turtle]

stupid steam vents

[humble urchin]

if im not mistaken you dont run persistence for speed period. maybe there's space for it with the new keepsakes though

but yeah, i also get goobed by gramps sometimes with antler and no armor

[thin laurel]

ik in the long run I shouldn't have it on, I've just only been doing casual attempts for uh. not very long lol, so it's a safety net
altho with the new keepsakes there aren't that many amazing things to replace it with tbh, it's a cheap card

[humble urchin]

oh yeah i also do have it on. just sharing what ive been seeing in the speedcord

[thin laurel]

and I'm not 100% sure, to answer I'd just look on the youtube playlist of the full ost but you can do that too 🤷

[craggy totem]

Guess who literally just got offered Personal Loan, Worry Free, and Reckless Abandon without any rerolls

Literally speak of the devil and he shall come for your sorry neck, I guess. 😂

[meager walrus]

theres space with the new keepsakes I think but also most people dont run the new keepsakes

speed already involves tons of resets/attempts so adding more resets to it is not something a lot of the top runners enjoy i believe

[thin laurel]

yes lol
I'm enjoying them for casual attempts but as I get better I'll prob want more consistency. for now I'm just trying to push for sub-6 and having fun with it

[meager walrus]

i have done like five speedrun attempts and i am convinced that sub 7 is impossible for me

[thin laurel]

sub 6 may be impossible for me lol, I got close once and have been 45-60 seconds slower in the first two regions ever since
what have you been running? medea?

[meager walrus]

mostly medea and mel blades

medea because i like medea and its supposed to be fast

mel blades because i like mel blades and if I pick an aspect everyone hates i will have less competition

[thin laurel]

medea is prob a good choice, I just suck so bad at it that I don't bother (yet, should practice)

I've been trying random things out to see what I enjoy, best attempts have been circe and supay so far
best attempt was supay with demeter dash of all things??? no idea why that run went so well, ig scorch specials + hidden helix helped but no freezer burn so. idk. just good rng I guess

[honest solar]

is there an infernal arms mod for hades 2

[humble urchin]

what do you feel about moros or charon? those are the next most popular picks

morrigan can be quite fast too

[thin laurel]

I should try Moros, I haven't yet
Charon I didn't have a ton of luck with but will def try more
honestly at this point I'm still in the phase of "idk, just do whatever feels fun," idt I'm good enough to really aim for competitive times quite yet

[humble urchin]

on the contrary, they’re enjoying the gambling potential of it lol

they acknowledge that god keepsakes and rerolls are much more consistent, but it’s fun when you get a ||jpom|| run to just hit exactly what you need, and now that build is even stronger than what you could usually get

[meager walrus]

dam

maybe i havent been keeping up

[humble urchin]

the only time you’re competing against is your own my friend

i fully agree with your mentality to just do what you’re finding fun

[thin laurel]

iirc when I asked foolish abt ||jpom|| for speeds the answer I got was like. "it's strong but will drive you insane so isn't worth it" lol or something to that effect
can prob go either way

[broken glen]

I've heard a lot of people discuss mods like this, but I don't think anything like this will come out for a long time, if ever. Even though the 2 games look relatively similar on a surface level, there's likely a lot of differences in the code that would require someone to code the infernal arms from the ground up

[humble urchin]

yeah but you also have to consider that a good foolish run is sub 4:30 atleast

[thin laurel]

moros is a good idea tho, while my best run was with supay I think it was just so rng dependent since supay damage is ass without good boons... I've been driving myself crazy trying to recreate my best time and I think a weapon with a stronger start will be less annoying.
circe is nice for that tbh, but moros may be better

[lucid shadow]

SEVEN GAHHHHH

[humble urchin]

yeah moros’ damage potential is absolutely insane

[lucid shadow]

eris is getting confused why im just letting her kill me

[humble urchin]

that’s rng for ya

[thin laurel]

my pb at the moment is 6:32 but 1. I got sheep balled lol, and 2. my best attempt got chronos p2 to 50% health at 6:00 but then I got overexcited and dashed into damage like an idiot.
but comparing times I think the issue is mainly erebus and oceanus...? idk. will try more, have been in high fear mode for the past few days

[little mason]

I let her kill me all the time

[humble urchin]

oceanus you lowkey just gotta luck into the holy hit of a 2 encounter oceanus lmao

or is it 3? i forgot

[lucid shadow]

im hitting ephyra clears not thought possible trying to have a single circe visit. just cleared it 2:00 IGT lmao

[little mason]

circe hates me she wont let me visit

[thin laurel]

yeahhhh that may be it
either way tho, I want to feel like sub-2 erebus and sub-3 oceanus are consistent for me, since it feels possible just like. not reliable yet

[humble urchin]

oh it’s definitely is possible, my PB is much worse than yours (8:21, but that was before i turned on frenzy, haven’t gave speeding a proper run yet) and i had a 3:0x oceanus exit

[thin laurel]

prying ||jpom|| out of my fingers and using a god keepsake for a consistent start may help LMAO but so will finding another aspect potentially, I love circe for pushing fear but idk about speeds

rn my best (failed) run was:

hecate 1:45:57
sirens 2:47:65
cerberus 4:22:26
tartarus shop 5:24:82
and like. idk, that's nice, I wanna do that again. just have not succeeded since

[humble urchin]

well with enough skill and a decent build most aspects can be taken to sub 6

not too long ago i saw a sub 6 (maybe sub 5?) circe run

[thin laurel]

also didn't start recording runs until after that so I can't figure out what went well lmao

[lucid shadow]

medea is supposed to be the fastest aspect according to the speedrunning discord and the website but i can't stand medea

[thin laurel]

I mean same tbh, I'm just bad at it. medea in the hands of a skilled player is insane, I'm just. simply not a skilled medea player

[lucid shadow]

i just can't aim at the enemies with medea

it feels like i need to be way more precise

[humble urchin]

i’m so glad that medea is the fastest aspect because it also is my favourite aspect, and even if i’m not good at it, i love speedrunning

i use it for both speeding and running fear lmao

[novel turtle]

omg I have another chance to attempt ||Zag|| but I am still not at full brain capacity, I'm gonna do it >:3

[shrewd geyser]

dont let your blood boil you got this

[craggy totem]

Just tried Supay in an actual run and it is So Weird

[honest solar]

Trying to do 52 fear why is this so hard

[shrewd geyser]

bro wdym youre playing on ultra hard mode

[humble urchin]

well you are playing a significantly harder version of the game, it’s only normal

[craggy totem]

Lol I assumed they were joking/sarcastic

[shrewd geyser]

idk ive met some characters in here

[honest solar]

Yeah but it's so hard

No but like any tips

[daring coral]

Since you float above the ground while wielding the Torches of Supay, you should be immune to Burning Oil and Spike Traps

[shrewd geyser]

what are you struggling with?

[shrewd geyser]

heat rises but im of the opinion that having flaming feet should make me immune to fire

[novel turtle]

5 minutes of running away from him later while omega casting for aspect of circe and I'm now the proud owner of the last keepsake I needed

[craggy totem]

Hell yeah!!

[shrewd geyser]

now do it again for bonding reasons

[honest solar]

surviving

[shrewd geyser]

surviving against what? Everything?

[novel turtle]

I was saying we were playing tag and taunting him the whole time he took a death defiance off me to make it even

[thin laurel]

what's your vow + arcana set up + weapon? more info abt the run might help for giving tips

[novel turtle]

I also recorded it with outplayed to show my partner who's been supporting me through playing the game since the initial EA release

[shrewd geyser]

i just placed a lego sticker slighty sidewise fml

[honest solar]

They deal a lot damage

[shrewd geyser]

What fear can you consistently beat? What weapon are you using? Typical build attempt?

[honest solar]

I can beat 20 fear or 32 fear

Anubis is my weapon rn but I usually win with Medea and I won a few runs with Anubis

Persephone actually not Medea and shiva

[shrewd geyser]

You gotta stop going straight for 52 then, work your way up to that getting used to each new vow you tack on over time

[honest solar]

NYX used to be go to

[humble urchin]

if youre used to 32 and then junp straight to 52, thats too big of a jump haha

[honest solar]

Idk it's mostly the burning effects and the gren shades that turn to enemies

[tidal cliff]

This game is trolling me I’ve had the reqs for 2 duos since the first area and never got either from any of the minibosses

[humble urchin]

just how rng can be sometimes

[humble urchin]

green shades that turn to enemies? all green shades are on your side

[covert badge]

the queen do be like that sometimes

[honest solar]

No it's the vow of return

[covert badge]

even the cards on she's just be like nope not today

[shrewd geyser]

just eat them

[honest solar]

A good Anubis build tho for high fear?

[tidal cliff]

I couldn’t fit that arcana card in bc it’s kinda inconvenient to obtain

[humble urchin]

ahh return, yeah you gotta get used to picking them up before they respawn, sometimes it can be tough but it’s just another extra thing you have to do

[jolly burrow]

have the devs said anything about adding more things to the steam point shop?

[shrewd geyser]

Probably hera attack Zeus special, or apollo attack

you need omega speed if you plan on using mana

[honest solar]

Anything other than hera or apollo

[shrewd geyser]

On attack? Zeus is never bad, hestia works too

[honest solar]

None of them are in ephyra

[shrewd geyser]

reset

[honest solar]

Don't I have to die

[covert badge]

blitz, scorch, and hitch never disappoint

[honest solar]

It's time confusing to keep resetting dying

[shrewd geyser]

you can die or reset, if undo the night, you can salute your vow of night and reroll the seed

if you have beat the game but im assuming you have

[honest solar]

I have

Oh wow that's helpful

[shrewd geyser]

yeah its not made very clear, i like i feel like many others just did that incantation with no clue what it does

[honest solar]

I thought salute was just filler dialogue

GIGAROS DASH LESGO

Is Ares spesh good

[winter cove]

Okay tht is HILARIOUS,

I got a room with two boon feud room Hera and Zeus, I picked Hera and Zeus said that normally I should side with his wife with everything except in this.

[shrewd geyser]

i dont love it

[merry whale]

which wep

[nocturne grove]

If you pick zeus she says my husband always gets what he wants, dont spoil him and then she talks about you picking him in the next run when you find her boon normally

[winter cove]

I'm at Blitz Damage 350 boys!

[honest solar]

Just got incandescent aura

[merry whale]

idk about anubis since i mainly play mel/circe staff, but wounds on special is really good primarily for grievous blow

[honest solar]

Damn I was so close

[winter cove]

Hermes is Olympian Amazon service

Great deliveries

[honest solar]

why does chronos still laugh post game

[covert badge]

bro not letting him having a sense of humor

[winter cove]

||Dionysus|| just borrowed all my money tht drunkard

[shrewd geyser]

With interest!

[covert badge]

gl killing ||prom|| my man

[winter cove]

I have really good boons, I'm at 400 Blitz Damage

Is air quality any good?

[nova oar]

Do you have static shock?

[winter cove]

Not yet, but I have a Hera, Zeus run combo going here

[covert badge]

do you have the furies, origination and strength on cuz global dmg is the enemy of AQ
also doesnt work with hitch shared dmg even if its below 50

[scenic gust]

not that worth when you ain't having Demeter Gust.

Aphrodite Air Infusion for Dodge rate is way way more better. Also stacked with Hermes dodge boon too

[split shuttle]

air quality is kinda cracked with static shock and hel skull tbh

[unkempt zodiac]

It's an activator. It's intended for chain lightning but ofc also works with other stuff

[dusk mirage]

Dang

[nova oar]

Can also be good for the rush and storm ring if they're not levelled

[winter cove]

I'm getting amazing benefits without it, Hera has a dual boon with another god that I'm damaging Enemies while regening mana. Talos died in les than 30 seconds on mount olympus

[dusk mirage]

Hitch is actually so goated

[winter cove]

I also have 9 Healing abilities

[unkempt zodiac]

Ya. I did a run with hel + poseidon attack, chain lightning, and air quality. I won't forget that soon

[dusk mirage]

You only need 1 health if you're not getting hit

[nova oar]

You'll be fine without it then

[winter cove]

htich is an amazing ability

[maiden pelican]

For Icarus and the ||ectoplasmic draught||, do you have to give it ||to him at the crossroads or is giving it to him in Thessaly fine||?

[winter cove]

Oaky for ||Prometheus || I'm having a hard time reading when his attack shoots out a flame, or a flame ring

What is the difference in those two different moves? He spins in both.

[honest solar]

Do you guys like heph spesh

[covert badge]

on anubis?

[honest solar]

Ye

[nova oar]

It's not a bad option

[scenic gust]

rarity depending. Epic above is good with Pom. The bonk hits hard, but for consistency meh

[covert badge]

you gotta have hestia in the pool tho, so chain and total eclipse yippee

[simple sierra]

have a godly medea run going for the 20 fear vow and once again wishing I just set it to 24 for the surface clear

[covert badge]

also zeus for blitz, thermal, master conductor, etc

[winter cove]

13 Healing Abilties and three death defiance on ||Typhon|| Please god let this be it I haven't beaten it yet

[simple sierra]

the trick is dealing so much dmg you kill him before he kills you

[shrewd geyser]

i believe in u

[simple sierra]

heroic +5 aphro attack, posessed array, zeus special + more and I only just left ephyra

[honest solar]

Almost killed eris damn

What legendaries should I aim to get for Anubis

Or duos

[nocturne sail]

What does ||Acceptance of another fate|| do exactly ? I just got it and I don't understand how that works

[shrewd geyser]

||Salute your vow of night to reroll your seed||

[unkempt zodiac]

Pretty convenient for ensuring a good first boon

[pallid cradle]

Apollo

Contrary to what you'd think, Anubis is an omega special aspect.

[shrewd geyser]

you can run it either way, but apollo + dual moonshot hammer is NASTY

[nocturne sail]

||So it's when I give up a run, I can start again ? I thought maybe we could enter seeds or something, that would be nice||

[shrewd geyser]

yes

[fleet wave]

quesiton, what are some of the best keepsakes i should be leveling?

[nova oar]

All the Olympian ones, fig leaf, knucklebones

[shrewd geyser]

Pom

[nocturne sail]

Thank you

[honest solar]

Any good duos

[wheat needle]

how much encounters does ||the summit|| have

[shrewd geyser]

thermal dynamics if you got zeus hestia

[craggy totem]

It doesn't matter where you give it to him, yeah. He'll use it when it's appropriate and not before.

[shrewd geyser]

||6 i think, with two guaranteed mini bosses. One will be a body part, one will be an enemy||

[wheat needle]

hmm ight ty

[winter cove]

Well I did it boys, I broke the ||Siege of Olympus|| for the first time.

[wheat needle]

gratz