h2-discussion

[warm sun]

-_-

Mb i forgor wat it called

[slow comet]

But yeah for attack it's either blitz or high rarity high pom heph blast

[warm sun]

?

[vale lava]

blitz doesnt really function that differently from jolted

probably easier to use tbh since you can reproc it immediately

[slow comet]

The only jolted adjacent thing in the game is high surf

[crude dragon]

Yeah, you ideally take Blitz Special because the special hits first

[slow comet]

Blitz is doom mk2

[crude dragon]

And then the Attack detonating immediately pops it

[slow comet]

I take aphro special bc higher % and since attack triggers last I get more time for romantic spark dash

But that's just an attempt of averting the skill issue

[warm sun]

Any hammers to go for?

[devout abyss]

zeus special is higher dps

[crude dragon]

Posessed Array if you can find a strong enough mana regen

[devout abyss]

possessed array of you find it at all

[slow comet]

Possessed array is goated bc you're not spending much magick on rotation

[pallid cradle]

Idk if it's a bug or by design but I don't think flood gain procs on possessed array...

[devout abyss]

intended

[warm sun]

Yay possessed array 1st hammer

[slow comet]

Even with bad Regen it can just phase boss in opening

[crude dragon]

Probably doesn't since it doesn't "spend" magic

[hasty ocean]

Scylla was finally singing her fourth song in Oceanus but then ||Zagreus|| sent me home

[slow comet]

And trigger huntress

[pallid cradle]

dumb design choice, born gain reigns supreme I suppose

[devout abyss]

born gain doesn’t trigger either

possessed array used to be a normal magick use, and it was so incredibly overpowered

[pallid cradle]

When tf did they make that horrible decision damn.

[crude dragon]

Unseen

[slow comet]

Ngl last night I got a mom skull run on 32f uw with tranquil gain and the mobility is so dumb on skulls overall that I got to utilize it even in frenzy1 unrivaled scylla

[devout abyss]

tranquil gain is not bad at all

[crude dragon]

Personally would've just nerfed the damage from Array rather than neuter the magic spend

[slow comet]

I'm thankful broken gain isn't the commanding choice of Regen anymore

[crude dragon]

No, it still definitely is

[slow comet]

Like, on ||anubis|| runs I'm actively searching for hestia gain for example

[crude minnow]

the only time its not #1 is if your so mana hungry you will prime yourself to 0

[pallid cradle]

I knew it didn't proc any magic spend effects anymore. I was unaware it didn't even gain boon effects anymore. That's kinda lame to me.

[slow comet]

I like getting freed of Max magick concerns

And I don't take hecuba for walkies much lately

[pallid cradle]

Hecuba used to be my exclusive pet for torch runs. Now I don't play torch.

[slow comet]

Although my best performing ||Anubis|| build is master conductor my guilty pleasure is o-special mana sink with incandescent aura and even though big numbers from broken gain procs tickle my brains I've found much more success with cardio

[pulsar glacier]

ok ||Aspect of Nergal|| is weird,|| the leech|| only gets activated once everything is already dead lul

[slow comet]

Try hordes + grit + wards, you'll get your mileage from it alright

[crude dragon]

Is it only at rank 1?

[pallid cradle]

Stop being so efficient with your killing and just mash buttons? Idk man, that sounds like a good problem to have.

[warm sun]

I accidentally got Zeus x aphro boon take or no?

[slow comet]

On Medea it's a must

[nova oar]

Yes

[pulsar glacier]

4/5 :D maybe the last rank will make a big difference (?)

[slow comet]

And you gotta learn to go out of your way to execute on it

[crude dragon]

At rank 5, it goes down to every 9 hits

[slow comet]

The dmg spike is genuinely insane

[pulsar glacier]

aye 12 -> 9

[pallid cradle]

you do realize the attack boon is what procs your blitz and not you dashing, right?

[slow comet]

Wdym it says on dashing through

[pallid cradle]

Medea doesn't really get anything out of Romantic Spark

[crude dragon]

Eh, the chance you get to actually proc it by Spark instead of just through damage isn't as high as you'd like

[warm sun]

Should I take Zeus cast to proc aphro then?

[slow comet]

That's why I'm putting blitz on attacks smh my head, biggerc colored numbers better than small white numbers

[covert fable]

best umbral flames aspect of momus build?

[slow comet]

See, I get to say that bc it's not #h2-builds-and-combat

[covert fable]

moros*

[slow comet]

When in doubt go for blitz or scorch or both

[crude dragon]

Cast doesn't apply Blitz

[covert fable]

so do i just start with the zeus keepsake?

[pallid cradle]

I usually start Hera and take born gain immediately on the Moros and Mel torches.

[cyan tangle]

is zagreus's sis (forgot her name) stronger than zagreus?

[crude dragon]

Blitz attack, Hitch/Apollo special, Arc Flash works nicely

[covert fable]

i alr fumbled bro i picked blitz special

[crude dragon]

Go for Fine Line, Ocean Swell, Exceptional Talent, etc

[covert fable]

best dedelous hammer pick?

[slow comet]

Clean helix most beginner friendly imo

[covert fable]

i got hiden helix,mega blaze, and furious blaze

[slow comet]

Esp if you go for mana sink build

[covert fable]

which one

[crude dragon]

Hidden Helix is nice to make more explosions happen

[covert fable]

alr

should i do a new run cuz i picked zeus special

[slow comet]

Don't stress it

[covert fable]

whats best gain for this build?

[slow comet]

you didn't mess up you have ✨ experimented ✨

[crude dragon]

Moros is still top 5 aspects, it won't brick because you didn't get the exact build going

[cyan tangle]

is zagreus's sister stronger than zagreus

[warm sun]

U mean Mel?

[slow comet]

Ask modders to make a mod that lets you pvp as their respective games selves vs each other and find out

[covert fable]

yo nvm i got apollo special over zeus

[slow comet]

We didn't see their fights where they're both boonless OR booned up

[covert fable]

im gunna replace it

[warm sun]

Let’s compare bosses

[pine flume]

i would say yes tbh

cast alone is enough to put meli above him

[warm sun]

Have you seen some zags cast builds

[pine flume]

meli cast is just better imo

[warm sun]

Some of them can do half of hades health in 1 shot

[covert fable]

wahts the best gain for moros build

[slow comet]

Aphro cast hera bow enjoyers gang pull up

[noble egret]

apollo's is nice since it goes off 3 times

[slow comet]

Damn I gotta install the og, I need me Hera runs

[covert fable]

is apollos gain the one with cast

[noble egret]

ya

[covert fable]

alr

[slow comet]

Very nice change that you don't have to stand in circle anymore

[covert fable]

fr

[slow comet]

So many runs of not grabbing max magick on Charon ax and even priming some lost to simply having to dodge out of your cast mid-charge once

[crude minnow]

took me liike 80 runs to realize you can attack when hexxed..

[devout cairn]

Got the epilogue

now what

[rapid plaza]

hit max rank

work on 67 fear runs

[pulsar frigate]

same, ||personally didn't like it||

[buoyant matrix]

pick your poison, sub 5 speedrun or 62 fear run

[bitter ivy]

||i got typhon for the 2nd time today||

[wraith barn]

how does "sprouted" on persephone skull work

[crude dragon]

Born

Come back next hotfix when it's still Born

[devout cairn]

i'm fine with the endings I was never into Hades for the overarching story

[devout cairn]

sounds spooky

[mystic dust]

The hidden aspect of Suway is really bad

[crude dragon]

Needs a good sprint to really pop off

[drifting blade]

i have an ultrawide monitor and a regular size screen and i feel i play better on the smaller screen anyone else feel similar

[slow comet]

Charge up with colored damage, your o-special gives you the wheel and lasts longer the more charge you have

[wraith barn]

so its like mel but rsther than fully attack focused its more of a mix of attack and ospecials

[crude dragon]

Fill the gas tank with effect damage, go for a drive in the car with Ospecial

[slow comet]

Yeah it's just a diff flavor of Mel aspect, same with than ax and nyx coat

Now that I think about it, every weapon has that kind of aspect in relation to Mel's, Moros, Artemis, I guess staff is the exception, all 3 of non-meli aspects are pretty different from it

[open pewter]

Alright, here is something for you folks. Does anyone know if I need to catch fish to get Poseidon's bond OR if I can use the Gaia incantation to automatically catch the fish?

[lofty sundial]

what to do when Voice And Vanity is stuck?

[supple nymph]

i had 4 gods in my pool and demeter was offered on shop for whatever reason? is this a known bug

[slow comet]

But you don't get the Gaia incant unless you catch enough fish anyways I thought?

[open pewter]

Idk, I have the Gaia incant. I haven't gotten Poseidon bond yet. I may just be asking too quickly, as I haven't given it too much time to figure out yet myself.

I just don't want to waste time fishing if I don't have to.

[buoyant matrix]

by the time you have gaia incantation you should have already caught enough for his bond i think lol

[echo light]

hi

[slow comet]

Even if you didn't I'm sure he only cares for fish that ends up in your inventory, useless thought exercise but still

[echo light]

do you guys know how to get aspect of shiva

[little frost]

another common toula W

[echo light]

i played for 100 hours and opened everything except shiva

[crude dragon]

If you have the Gaia incantation, you should also have enough types of fish caught for the Pos bond

[slow comet]

Wear coat and meet Selene on the run

[little frost]

I believe selene will give the phrase

[crude dragon]

Have 5 Nightmare invested in the Coat, get a room reward Hex

[covert falcon]

you don't actually need to wear anything (but don't run around naked)

[echo light]

i did that a lot of times probably

[slow comet]

Might just be an anecdote then, I got every waking phrase wearing respective weapon

[covert falcon]

max level on one of the non-mel aspects and meet selene

[crude dragon]

Imagine if there was an option to play unarmed

[echo light]

i haven't tried this maybe its the reason

[slow comet]

Yeah it is, forgor about that

[wraith barn]

yeah you need to max a non mel aspect for all of the respective weapons for their hidden aspect

[covert falcon]

I suffered way too much because I didn't know it had to be a non-mel aspect so I maxed out mel in like 4 of the weapons

[echo light]

do we have any info about when is the next update

[wraith barn]

at least mel doesnt use up your nightmare

[crude dragon]

I mean, doing that is still good since the Mel aspects are generally solid

[buoyant matrix]

never

[crude dragon]

There isn't, next question

[echo light]

ill get shiva aspect rn

[covert falcon]

speaking of nightmare, does the "fear is palpable" condition only happen to the assigned testament enemy for the weapon? bc the "where to obtain" section for nightmare puts palpable and testament on two different bullet points so I was wondering

[buoyant matrix]

what does palpable mean, what language are you playing on

[crude dragon]

No, the vows apply to the whole run

[obtuse sapphire]

I know some weapons/aspects feel better or worse against certain bosses, but by the gods, aspect of supay is Polyphemus' bane

[covert falcon]

English, and the definiton is "so intense it's almost tangible"

[slow comet]

Finally unlocked the acceptance of another fate

[buoyant matrix]

i know what palpable means i mean I've never heard the word be used in-game, where does it say that 🤔

[covert falcon]

I mean as in how to get nightmare during a run, do you only get it if you're fighting the assigned guardian?

[wraith barn]

yeah

[slow comet]

Can hunt for setups with ||mom pom|| at last

[crude dragon]

Correct, you only get it from the bounty target

[covert falcon]

when you check where to obtain nightmare, it's the first bullet point (source: I'm staring at it)

[slow comet]

It's crazy that I became the nights champion before I unlocked it, 270 nights in is HELLA late imo

Is that the skill issue they've been talking about?

[echo light]

Who is your favorite god or goddess?

[crude dragon]

Narratively, probably Artemis. Mechanically, Hera

[buoyant matrix]

visually, medea

[echo light]

hestia

[obtuse sapphire]

Heph. He's just a fun lad

[echo light]

her boons are perfect for me

[lofty sundial]

||Voice And Vanity stuck. Multiple Interactions with Narcissus. At the point where Narcissus has returned after talking to echo. Water is dirty. Fated list says help Echo and Narcissus . Spoken to Nemesis about them. I am aware a recipe should appear at the cauldron but nothing has appeared. Clearing the Run multiple times after talking to Narcissus. Nothing. Please help||

[slow comet]

Honestly, hera is just such a mood as a character AND shes the most versatile god in matters that are unrelated to numbers (that'd be Zeus)

[devout cairn]

she's so distrustful whenever you gift her anything, I love it

[slow comet]

Not distrustful, she's just "drop it dear were all dihheads up here 💅 "

[echo light]

does anyone like hephaistos? i never choose him for boons

[slow comet]

Hes one of the strongest supports and depending on your pom+rarity luck could be a decent main god

[hasty ocean]

Artemis is my fave overall but maybe that's because I'm down bad 😅 Hestia's got my favorite boons, Heph has my favorite design, and Demeter is my favorite personality-wise

I love how they straddle the line between making the Olympians likeable and relatable, but also scary and dangerous as hell

[devout cairn]

he's good for survivability, i never take his attack/special boons

[snow elk]

[slow comet]

If you feel like unbinding the dodge button you go heph aphro Poseidon and Demeter and just drool over the input device of your choice

[vale lava]

can you skip ||the epilogue credits||?

[buoyant matrix]

why would you, the music is cool

[slow comet]

Could sub Poseidon and Demeter for Apollo + hestia for the daze+dodge stuff and duo

But I like the first one better

[crude dragon]

He's pretty good, but desperately needs early poms and good rarity to get off the ground

[echo light]

im okay with any build that includes hestia

[buoyant matrix]

burning island 🤑

[summer summit]

for the skull aspect of persphone, why is it that my special cast sometimes goes long but often it's pretty short? i dont understand the mechanic at all

[echo light]

hestia + hera is perfect too

[thick bronze]

will there be a hades 3?

[echo light]

maybe 6 years later

[crude dragon]

You see that circle by your ammo counter? Damage from boon effects fills it up. The more full, the longer car mode lasts

[buoyant matrix]

olympian damage charges up your aspect power (little circle next to your hp) the more charge you have the longer it lasts

[crude dragon]

The epilogue implies they're moving on to a new IP

[summer summit]

oic

[thick bronze]

ip?

[buoyant matrix]

an entirely new game

[crude dragon]

Intellectual property

[thick bronze]

what does ip adress has to do with this

[slow comet]

I prolly sound like broken record but Zeus or high pom high rarity heph on attack fills it up the best

[buoyant matrix]

internet ip and game ip are entirely different things

[thick bronze]

so no more zagreus? 😢

[vale lava]

you gotta fill that meter with damaging effects - hep, hera, zeus, ares, hestia are good attacks to use to fill it up

[buoyant matrix]

correct

[vale lava]

I just beat 32 for the first time using ares attack and zeus special

[thick bronze]

will the new game be a roguelike tho?

[slow comet]

No it will be a hero shooter

[buoyant matrix]

i doubt it. knowing sgg they'll want to try something new

[crude dragon]

It might be, it might not be

[devout cairn]

nah we are killing Satan next

[thick bronze]

wow so this is how the studio that made hades will die

[crude dragon]

Supergiant Binding of Isaac? Let's go?

[slow comet]

Sgg makes the Dante's inferno reimagining confirmed?

[slow comet]

We're gonna fight

[buoyant matrix]

i mean they were doing good enough before hades

[devout cairn]

going down the nine circles of hell to convince Lucifer to stop being evil

[thick bronze]

i took a look at their games before and apart from the art its mid

[buoyant matrix]

also it's either something new or becoming another triple a company that churns out the same slop every few years

[crude dragon]

Name a time and Waffle House

[buoyant matrix]

well that's your opinion, plenty of people love their older games, maybe even more than hades

[thick bronze]

nah they could end it as a thrilogy

[slow comet]

And who we gonna play as in h3. If it ain't Cerberus I'm not buying it

[thick bronze]

well they make up a fraction of hades players

[crude dragon]

After how they ended this game, I feel about as comfortable as the writer does about seeing a third (i.e. not remotely)

[crude minnow]

just saying for gods they do lots of stuff in family..

[buoyant matrix]

where are you getting these numbers brah

[thick bronze]

hopefully

[slow comet]

It's not an AAA studio, they don't count fans, they show the appretiation

[thick bronze]

i just look at the steam reviews says enough

[jolly hound]

You can see the evolution tho like the isometric motion was figured out well before hades

[thick bronze]

their first good game was hades, the second was hades 2, if they stop the trend it likely stops being good

[jolly hound]

if that was true they’d have gone out of business before hades dropped tbh

[buoyant matrix]

ok I'm convinced this is ragebait and will no longer engage

[thick bronze]

bet everything on hades as their final hope

[jolly hound]

The exact same thing is happening with helldivers 2 right now; the studio that made it put themselves on the map now but they existed for ten years

[crude dragon]

Well, he did only join yesterday

[thick bronze]

i just joined for hades info

[obtuse sapphire]

What the heeeeeeeck, did they increase mega dracon's spin range? First time fighting him in ages and I lost three DD's to that

[jolly hound]

if you play earlier supergiant games now, a lot of them feel like early access hades yes; they also used proper product design principles focused on a. Good product rather than bottom line

[thick bronze]

ngl bro i keep forgetting youre talking to me turn the yellow ping thing on fr

[devout cairn]

I think it's the same guy that was saying Hades 2 is worse because mel's skirt is too short and because as a woman you can't rizz someone you can only be rizzed. It's all ragebait, I'd ignore it

[wintry mantle]

gotta love chaos taking the last fated list option i have for artemis

[dull spindle]

Does giving gifts the gods give you better boon rarities or is that just keepsake stuff

[crude dragon]

No, just keepsakes and prophecies

[dull spindle]

Ok thank you

[jolly hound]

I give nectar to a god if I really need something good from them. It doesn’t do anything but it makes me feel like I have some slight control

[teal talon]

Although with how bipolar the Olympians are, it would be funny if it did.

[ivory zodiac]

49 nights in, still no incantation for rivals 2, is it possible that something is broken on my end...? 😕
||https://i.imgur.com/R7w3cQQ.jpeg||

[crude dragon]

Have you ||seen Charybdis||

[ivory zodiac]

no, i guess thats a prerequisite?

[buoyant matrix]

it is

[crude dragon]

It is

[ivory zodiac]

fml

[simple sierra]

I want super giant, exok games, TC, and studio mdhr to meetup together I feel like the sparks would be absolutely insane

[bronze stream]

One thing I don't get is why there isn't just a 'return to shadow now' option

[noble egret]

so im trying omega cast with circe staff and im just sitting here thinking "this could be so much better with momus"

[bronze stream]

Why do i have to stand there and wait for things to kill me to end a run at will

[buoyant matrix]

there is, it's called standing still and letting the enemies have at you

[bronze stream]

Just seems like an obvious QoL thing with how some parts of the game work

[buoyant matrix]

it would encourage bad habits among the casuals

[crude dragon]

Well, remember that Circe copies all cast effects, not just Omega cast

[echo oriole]

Alright y'all how do I unlock The Spine to play while I am fighting ||the Tail of Typhon||?

[buoyant matrix]

the spine?

[noble egret]

ya woulda been better for an attack build tbh

[simple sierra]

should I be buying nightmare or stardust first with my bones

[bronze stream]

What bad habits?

[crude dragon]

Song from Transistor, because the Tail of Typhon fight is a lot like a fight from that game

[bold hull]

hey i beat main plot so endgame starts now. ive made all incantations i can make. should i be selling/recycling stuff now? ive been hoarding everything

[buoyant matrix]

didn't like the run or gathered certain resources --> end the run

[bronze stream]

why is that a bad habit

[rapid plaza]

i would go nightmares first until you have at least one aspect on all weapons at level 5

[hallow vault]

I wanna Olympus aflame Live at the Game Awards

[bronze stream]

what does "bad habit" even mean in a video game outside the context of how you fight enemies

[simple sierra]

I do and have all the hidden ones too now, just debating upgrading the hidden ones cuz I feel like a few scale/NEED to be 5 to be effective

[fresh kelp]

Why can't I pet my big dawg cerby

[crude dragon]

You can... eventually

[fresh kelp]

I'm tired of beating him 😞

[bronze stream]

||petting the dog is the actual reward for beating the game, all that stuff about chronos threatening whatever is just window dressing||

[slow comet]

Only ||Anubis and maybe supay|| don't care for upgrades imo, the rest scale pretty significantly up with upgrades

[bronze stream]

You're not really beating him, you're beating the evil dirt off of him

[crude dragon]

Circe also has most of its functionality out of the box

[slow comet]

I meant for the hidden ones

[crude dragon]

Fair enough

[obtuse sapphire]

Pretty much this. You can see the DNA in each of their previous games that leads to what ultimately became hades. Bastion moreso than the rest

[crude dragon]

You're giving him a bath

[slow comet]

Circe you're probably getting air quality every run anyways lmao

[mystic storm]

Even after beating the Epilogue ||we won't be able to visit the House of Hades/Olympus anymore||?

[slow comet]

Bc gust and promflare

[simple sierra]

ye like ||nergal|| I feel 100% needs 5. ||morrigan|| benefits hugely from it but already feels great. ||shiva|| needs 5 to have any perk really, and ||hel|| medea won't give to me 😔

[bronze stream]

i actually love that ||the explanation for fighting cerberus in post game is just... he's a dog. Did you think he was ever going to not go outside and get filthy?||

it does seem wrong that poseidon boons aren't super effective in that fight

[slow comet]

Cerb just gets a very delayed case of consecutive constipation incidents after all the satyr stuff zag fed him

[crude dragon]

||Yep. HoH is 🤷, Olympus is terrified of her||

[mystic storm]

I also can't give Zeus the last ambrosia for some reason

[slow comet]

He's full

[mystic storm]

Really? Damn, that's really disappointing.

[slow comet]

||The location is there, we've seen it during the ending scene, I just don't get why the exit door of the chronos fight couldn't be moved to a portal right there by the throne that leads to same place normal timeline||

[mystic storm]

||The dialogues hint that eventually both locations will be in order enough for us to visit, so... I don't really get why can't we even go there anymore, not necessarily having a lot of new dialogues and what not, but at least... go there.|| 🤷

[simple sierra]

every time the featured weapon has gone back to the skull, I go back to tackle the next tier fear surface. one shotted 6 and 12 with medea, wish me luck on 24 and my third ever potential clear 🫡

[minor stirrup]

Man why is it so hard to get the ||nectar recipe from Aphrodite||, I'm almost 60 runs in, seen credits, cleared both routes over a dozen times, and I speak with her frequently but she never gives it. I'm so starved for nectar

[calm spindle]

What boons are good for the staff

[jolly hound]

i'm not positive about this, but i think you may need to talk to her after beating second boss upstairs in the same run. i got it really quickly, but my experience seems unusual

[minor stirrup]

I've definitely done that already, I often seek her duo boons. She always just has end-game stuff to say

[jolly hound]

it's also possible you're ahead of where the game thinks you should be right now and its giving you "good job winning the game" dialogue which takes priority over other stuff. might just need to slog through it all unforutnately

nice job being better than average tho. I need two more upstairs wins on run 55. 3-0 vs big bad upstairs

[minor stirrup]

I'm guessing the dialogue for unlocking it is just a very low priority, but that seems whack given how important nectar is throughout the entire game. Really annoying that I have to listen to each god say 'omg you ||killed chronos, you killed typhon, gramps is sus, and you have to retread your steps now?||' in 2 different ways each for some reason (end game spoilers)

I feel like the nectar recipe should override all of that, it's way more important and time-sensitive IMO

[oblique walrus]

yeah I'm still waiting for zues and hera's hearts to unlock because they keep going on about endgame dialogue lmao

[jolly hound]

watch you end up being a boss in hades 5, I tried so hard and got so far but in the end there wasn’t any nectarrrr

[oblique walrus]

also have been doing surface runs for days because I want what circe can give me but she only shows up in 1/3 or 1/4 runs genrally and will not shut up about typhon and chronos

[jolly hound]

I need a few more upstairs wins to finish the game but I wanna see my girl Roxy so it’s taking a while. (deadass, after several blowout wins involving charm or reviving dead enemy Selene thing taking over Roxy…she’s almost like half a bouldy in my heart

[rapid plaza]

same thing happened to me and then after that I had a bunch of ody dialogue to get through

[oblique walrus]

i think its cause EA had her dialogue further back that the other npcs

[oblique walrus]

also this but man it's getting annoying I really want the ||familiar costumes|| and I'm tired of only doing surface runs

[upper jacinth]

Uhh can someone tell me what I have to do || to find the fates? "using our emissary's gift in the depths of oceanus" - what gift? ||

[oblique walrus]

||probably the keepsake||?

[buoyant matrix]

||moros keepsake||

[stark crown]

Surface is scuffed as hell, rooms with friends are so much rarer

[upper jacinth]

gotcha, thanks people!

[oblique walrus]

at least with medea you can kind savescum it lol... since you can see if she's there after 2 rooms

[stark crown]

Medea is shorter too

[oblique walrus]

at this rate circe's gonna be my last bond too cause thats still locked

[upper jacinth]

Okay so I || activate it in 3 chambers in oceanus in a row and then have to die in the last? ||

[stark crown]

Yup, just avoid taking shops or room without foes

[buoyant matrix]

activate it in three consecutive rooms and die in the next room

[upper jacinth]

bless, thank you!

[stark crown]

It's 3 + 1

[buoyant matrix]

pray you don't get the fountain room btw 😂

[rough horizon]

I don't think I've had nem do a challenge since launch, I'm never going to do the 1000 gold achievement

[dark plume]

did they change how u get morrigan? i have everything and talked to artemis so much times i cant even remember, but she wont give me that waking phrase

[oblique walrus]

I got it pretty easily after a few underworld runs. it also helps once she starts showing up in tartarus... she seems to show up more there for me now

[stark crown]

Iirc melinoe aspects don't count anymore

[buoyant matrix]

yes, invest 5 nightmare into the weapon

[oblique walrus]

do you have a non mel aspect maxed for the daggers

[wraith barn]

grab sea star and get lucky with a triple gold reward in tartarus and thats 600 if sea star procs

[rapid plaza]

i think you can speed it up by doing rift runs in the dark stone if that helps at all. but yeah, it kinda sucks

[dark plume]

yea, i have every lim and oros aspect maxxed

[oblique walrus]

can she show up in chaos runs?

i h aven't done chaos runs in forever I kinda forgot about that... gods damned it

[rough horizon]

I don't think those work

[dark plume]

i already have every aspect maxxed

[wraith barn]

whats the best special to use for mel staff

[oblique walrus]

what was artemis talking about the last time you saw her

[dark plume]

wdym by that

[fresh kelp]

Aphro

[oblique walrus]

she may just have dialogue thats MORE IMPORTANT than the waking phrase

[rapid plaza]

i know you can find her in great chaos above. so I think she would be available for a rift run, though I'm not 100% positive

[buoyant matrix]

then it's just luck

[stark crown]

In early access you could unlock secret aspects by maxing out melinoe aspects, in launch version you have to spend 5 nightmares per weapon

[buoyant matrix]

probably hera

[fresh kelp]

What casts do y'all generally look for any run?

[oblique walrus]

notares.exe

[thick bronze]

does this help me beat the game?

[oblique walrus]

i just don't like his cast

[stark crown]

My absolute favorite is demeter prob, aphro and hestia are close seconds, also zeus is good for single target

[oblique walrus]

demeter cast is good but you can't do the funny single cast for origination if you pick it and gale

[spice mauve]

Hestia and demeter

[oblique walrus]

i still do grab dem cast a lot though

[rapid plaza]

demeter/poseidon for me

[noble egret]

blehhhhhh 👅

[stark crown]

Tbh I try to fish cyclons + aphro/hestia

[spice mauve]

or zeus teamed with aphrodite

[lusty trail]

i will forever hate that change they did to origination in EA to make origination not happen with double curse from same god

[spice mauve]

hestia plus aphrodite is so peak

[stark crown]

But in a vacuum an area freeze is so good imo

[lusty trail]

demeter insta origination cast i miss you 💔

[oblique walrus]

I mean i think it was kinda a fair nerf and you can basically still do it with demeter and any god not named ares or zeus

[lusty trail]

but like was it needed bc it didnt feel gamebreaking strong idk

demeter isnt the best god anyway considering her supports. we have medea and current blitz scaling in game anyway

[noble egret]

does gale no longer count as a curse?

[buoyant matrix]

yes because you're expected to sacrifice two core boon slots for origination

[oblique walrus]

no it does you just can't activate orgination with GALE and FREEZE together specifically

[bold hull]

is there an incentive to choose boss room during a run?

[lusty trail]

idk ill agree to disagree i guess 😭 it could only happen with demeter anyway, thought it was a nice little thing

[oblique walrus]

boss room rewards have higher rarity

[misty slate]

Hey guys, out of curiosity, do you think there would be any way supergiant could improve visual clarity of this game? Compared to the first game I sometimes find it much harder to actually see where I am and where I need to be dodging. Maybe some kind of setting where it visually makes the enemy shots and Mel glow so it’s easier to see everything happening?

[oblique walrus]

at the very least the game could use a color blind mode cause I've seen several people say that uh... scylla is very hard to deal with if colorblind

[misty slate]

Oh yeah, because when the drummer attacks across the floor, it’s the same color as the shots they throw out

[lusty trail]

the fact that the game still went through a visual clarity pass on EA and this is still an issue

i rlly have to agree i wish there was a visual clarity mode specifically. or a vfx slider

[stark crown]

I wonder how we managed to get to launch without this, it's pretty much impossibile that colorblind people didn't try out this game

[misty slate]

Idk if I’m misremembering but I feel like Hades 1 didn’t get as bullet-helly as this game sometimes does

[lusty trail]

in h1 you could also destroy projectiles. sooo

[misty slate]

Oh right I forgot about that

[stark crown]

Iirc the worst offender was rival theseus but it's been a while

[lusty trail]

also asphodel witches with heat maybe?

[misty slate]

You could also just charge through everything with the shield, I think that’s what I did lol

But yeah from a gameplay perspective that’s my main complaint, I don’t mind having to dodge through these tiny little gaps and play DDR but I just wish I could see them a little better sometimes

Also the worst feeling is when you get caught by an enemy that was just slightly offscreen

[lusty trail]

if it helps at all specifically running demeter gusts and learning the projectiles more and more might help but that doesn't get rid of the problem :|

its just gonna make it muscle memory

[stark crown]

You can slow down projectiles but I never tested it in this game because in isaac it was actually worse

Also there's an hex that destroys projectile too

[misty slate]

Hestia legendary also destroys projectiles when you cast I think

[lusty trail]

love the aoi pfp btw

[stark crown]

I'm currently on break after 11 years

[lusty trail]

in my almost 400 runs i dont think ive gotten the hestia cast legendary a single time 😭

i got the old one, never this version

[misty slate]

Ah remind me what the old one did? I think when I played I remember not liking scorch, I think they buffed it in EA or something

[stark crown]

I still miss poseidon hex buff, it's probably on the transformation bullet but ugh

[lusty trail]

her old legendary is just her current sprint

[misty slate]

Oh weird

[stark crown]

Hexes are clearly unbalanced imo

The temp armor ones are clearly the best ones (RIP EA invuln)

[misty slate]

Unbalanced as in too strong or too weak? I’ve had some runs where hexes completely trivialized so I’m guessing you’re saying too strong?

[stark crown]

There are some that are def better than others

[lusty trail]

wolf howl still consistently best hex imo. the i frames plus armor plus being able to cast twice while being one of the lowest cost ones if not the lowest one

even w/o godsent if i see it i try to get it immediately i have to say

[stark crown]

Wolf howl and lunar ray prob the best ones, lunar if you get auto + 3 just does like 8k per beam lmao

[misty slate]

I really like the sheep morph one, that thing has saved me in so many situations. Not the best against bosses ofc although it does well vs chronos

[stark crown]

Meteor is fine if you get area bonus dmg + 50 shields

[lusty trail]

i still feel like lunar ray should have higher armor but well

next to wolf howl my fave is probably just night bloom honestly it gets very stupid

[stark crown]

Lunar ray is too rng tbh, if you always got the same tree then 40 armor is nice, but if you are stationary it kinda sucks

[lusty bolt]

Is there a way to ensure you get the Nemesis Kill challenge?

The single achievment I need is the Nemesis 1000 gold one, because she never showed up. I've been playing since the 3rd surface boss became accessible as a boss fight but I've never had a Nemesis gold encounter only the trade or DPS check

[lusty trail]

obviously keep doing underworld runs, but other than that not really

i almost always get her combat encounter, just rng ig

[stark crown]

I can't understand if I like night bloom or not, I usually tend to avoid AI companions

[delicate acorn]

I like Godsent Twilight Curse since even on bosses it'll just keep orbiting them and zapping

Is it practical? Dunno tbh but it's funny

[noble egret]

uhh i think i soft locked myself lol

[stark crown]

If you get dark side + aphro godsent + athena it also gets stupid fast

[lusty trail]

does twilight curse even get affected by zeus boons

[noble egret]

or hardlocked rather. mel says she has an incantation to complete and can't exit, but im busy cooking up some cookies

[stark crown]

5 godsent casts are actually fun

[lusty trail]

dark side godsent + sunny dispo is so dumb

[lusty trail]

you tried talking to all npcs already?

[stark crown]

Dark side really needs godsent tho otherwise it does 0 dmg

[noble egret]

yes

[light thicket]

is it possible to find npcs such as aracne within chaos's trials?

[delicate acorn]

I'd like if we could roll Hexes

Sometimes I just really want to see night bloom lmao

[lusty trail]

agree so hard even w all the dmg% upgrades it hits like a wet noodle. i wish that it didn't make mel invul but gave her higher damage / cooler abilities tbh

[noble egret]

argh why cant we cancel cauldron recipes

[lusty trail]

good question that. u should quit and relog jic

[noble egret]

i did, still stuck lol

[stark crown]

Agreed I'd instantly reroll fountain and sheep bullet

[lusty trail]

bug report then?

[pine flume]

why does aspect of medea suck for me XD

[lusty trail]

are u doing the combo thingy

[dull talon]

||Just got a "Death to Chronos" salute interaction with Selene in the Crossroads even after the ending, huh||

[stark crown]

I too dislike that aspect, it's not fun for me

[ebon tulip]

Post game question regarding ||milinoe seek us|| Can that prophecy of ||Seek to know He Who Rebels Against the Gods|| --- can it be unlocked through rival encounters?

[stark crown]

Prob not because they banter

Mine was on normal encounter

[ebon tulip]

Thanks, wasn't sure how the game handles that, so I'll go the normal route until it triggers that then.

[stark crown]

Maybe they put an option for both but I don't really know, but better do it the normal way to be sure

[dusk dove]

if an item is available for recycling does it mean i no longer need it in my game?

[delicate acorn]

Could you sell me on Dark Side? It always feels underwhelming compared to my normal moveset and I'm not sure what you're supposed to do with it

[last smelt]

does anyone know how to get friendship w ody?

[lusty trail]

do his prophecy

[stark crown]

If there's no white flag in the left corner then burn that material away, game tells you if that material is still needed

[last smelt]

and how do i unlock that..? I dont have it in my fated list

[plucky dew]

its a panic button but doesnt ever seem to do dmg

[winged geyser]

What do I need to be able to awaken hypnos? Cause I've done the epilogue, I gave him salts early game but I can't even see the incantation no more

[lusty trail]

then keep playing for now. should show up later in his dialogues

[stark crown]

||meet hades in underworld||

[last smelt]

I did have the polyphemus prophecy, but thats kinda it

[winged geyser]

I have many many times by naow

[vapid bough]

do the 48 testaments play any part in any progress?

[lusty trail]

still still, it's another one

[delicate acorn]

May have to talk to Medea more

[last smelt]

meet medea in ephyra and get friendship

[stark crown]

Nightmare farm

[last smelt]

alr then cheers

[vapid bough]

ik, and nothing else?

[winged geyser]

Oh, I don't visit her much. I've been trying lately to see if that updated anything. So I'll keep trying

[stark crown]

Well it kinda forces you to almost get 2 statues

[winged geyser]

And how do you trigger to appear on the fated list the prophecy ||denizens of the depths||?

I have ||26 *mn fish by now and I don't know what to do. Guides everywhere say "catch 25 fish"||

[stark crown]

Iirc by gifting poseidon nectar

[winged geyser]

Oh, lmao

I'm still trying to mac that one out. Thank you guys so much!

[stark crown]

Like mine unlocked after giving him max possible nectar

[winged geyser]

*max

[snow elk]

[stark crown]

Anyway hades 2 is well designed, I stumbled upon every prophecy

You have to gift stuff to everyone anyway so it's bound to happen

[lusty trail]

^^^^^ only had trouble with born to win myself but everything else works amazingly

[stark crown]

Game tells you everything, also here we study classical myths in school so I kinda knew where to search

Worst stuff was the infinite backlog of prom dialogues because I won every single run at launch

[noble egret]

ha fixed my problem with some save editing

[lusty trail]

i was so sad yesterday bc i got the last dialogue w hecate. super bittersweet

[wheat needle]

Anyone tried a summoner build with summon hex, trying to see how I can easily get it online

[noble egret]

i guess pets no longer have levels?

[stark crown]

They have, on their abilities

[neat frigate]

Is anyone else having trouble with getting some bonds to deepen? I have fully maxed arcana but Circe isn’t giving me the dialogue to deepen, and my friend has a maxed selene coat and hasn’t gotten her bond to deepen for months

[lusty trail]

like a necromancer type build with night bloom and sun worshipper?

[stark crown]

Circe has a lot of backlogs, moreso if you finished certain events and prophecies

It gets aggravated by her low spawn chance

[lusty trail]

thessaly rooms are still so weird to this day

[stark crown]

It's my least favorite level

[lusty trail]

i think my last fave is fields tbh. not being able to reroll doors half the time kinda sucks

[slow plinth]

I've tried and tried and tried to beat surface on 12 fear, and I just can't beat typhon. I get there with almost no problems, even using the 10 second doom. I get him to the second phase and I feel like I beat him forever.

[lusty trail]

also a lot of sprint through the room back and forth for minor rewards

[neat frigate]

I fought rivals typhon + frenzy 2 today for the first time in a bit and MAN that fourth phase is evil

[stark crown]

Oh yeah if you reroll half of the time you get same rewards lmao

[meager garden]

phase 3(after eggs 2) is the real hard part imo

[neat frigate]

That’s what I mean. The last phase before baby mode

[meager garden]

yeah it's a ton of stuff

[slow plinth]

Oh yeah I got him to phase 3, if thats the one where he just starts spamming moves and throwing down tentacles and stuff

[jolly hound]

ever listen to Siren song in the shower? It’s fun to live dangerously

[lusty trail]

rivals typhon being a dps check and a face tank and babality is so much in a single fight

[neat frigate]

It only rerolls one reward out of all them that’s the problem, and there’s no indication of which one will get rerolled. Surprised this made it into 1.0 because it makes rerolling on non-boss chambers way too risky to attempt

[lusty trail]

1000 seems a bit high for a nem challenge? the achievement tracks all your other nem gold challenges anyway, it adds them up. doesnt have to be from one time (and don't think possible either)

[calm spindle]

What boons are good for mels staff

[neat frigate]

Aphro/apollo on Special and dual moonshot hammer

[barren ember]

Started crying bc frinos is so cute

[meager garden]

lol

[stark crown]

Rival typhoon is kinda fine until ||baby||, sometimes stuff overlaps too much considering you have restricted movement

[wheat needle]

Ye

[slow plinth]

I had aphrodite attack, wounds on special. Using staff with 2 attack, with an 8% chance to hit twice, and hestia perm burn on weakened foes(Though I don't know if weak works on him cause I had more potent weak, and strength on and he was still hitting me for like 48's.

[lusty trail]

babality ||chronos|| swipes i despise you

[rough horizon]

Can Athena appear in the Fields with her keepsake? i seem to recall she didn't when she was added

[broken glen]

You could also get ecstatic obsession if you count charm

Have 3 enemies fighting for you

[lusty trail]

it can work but they can override each other, so you should kill 1 enemy to get sun worshipper then use night bloom after the next kill

[broken glen]

If you want whispered prayer (crit chance for hex, which is very fun) be sure to go underworld so you have better chances of Artemis

[lusty trail]

whispered prayer plus godsent night bloom is extremely fun

[wheat needle]

Yes

[stark crown]

Artemis was so powerful in 1 they had to limit her to 1 boon

[broken glen]

Night bloom is crazy fun- with the right upgrades, it goes from being underwhelming to insane

[wheat needle]

Same with dionysus 😭🙏

[lusty trail]

tbh idm unupgraded night bloom. its just use and forget dps

[rough horizon]

Thanks, it got me 4 DD back

[lusty trail]

i find myself never picking moon water tho

[broken glen]

Do hexes have the same utility as calls from h1? (In that they provide I frames and can sort of give you an extra dash in a sense)

[stark crown]

Also I miss poseidon's call and demeter cast from 1

[buoyant matrix]

no iframes but they're good

[lusty trail]

if u want iframes go wolf howl or dark side

[wheat needle]

I mainly do with star fall build or something like shiva + hex I can spam.

[crude minnow]

endgame spoilers || can you tell if a mid shop has an arena contract before entering ||

[dense roost]

Hey guys how do u all find a way to bring peace to narcissus and echo? ive run into them about 15 times each, and they both not giving me the cauldron?

[lusty trail]

can i just say i miss calls in general 😭 i don't feel like complaining too much ab it but hexes do not feel as epic as calls did, i was hoping for a change in the entirety of the EA

[lusty trail]

||no, just rng afaik. just keep going for midshops||

[dense roost]

me too, ive run into them about 15 times, :S no cauldron

[stark crown]

I think having a dedicated god for calls is better but they are clearly more balanced, in H1 with 25% autorecharge bar + poseidon you were pretty much untouchable

[broken glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960590442141991042/1424107607379148830/IMG_5417.jpg?ex=68e2bf10&is=68e16d90&hm=1530ed7b268159eebcd5521e5931b91b09b5688366d4cf22a64479e0859a0150&

[crude minnow]

it took me to night 100 to finish that quest, visit them max bond and just keep talking

[dense roost]

its at max as it could get, cant give them ambrosia. 🙁 really 100 nights?

[crude minnow]

yes just finished it today

[dense roost]

no pre requiste? just keep talking?

[lusty trail]

this has to be like the one thing i agree with ab hexes doing right. not having the normal mini calls is a good choice bc imagine something like moros with constant lower duration dark side

[stark crown]

I just wish they made fountain and pig bullet better lmao

[crude minnow]

|| so had to talk to both of them and wait for water to get dirty, then convince Nar to talk to echo. Think it took a while and he had to meet her twice before she was okay with what happened. Also need nem to talk to Nar in his area and then he learned his lesson and you get cauldron recipe ||

[broken glen]

(Tag spoilers please!)

[atomic river]

shi mb

[lusty trail]

also its np. just run it again

[broken glen]

But no, you shouldn’t have to redo it. ||gigaros stays in your inventory||

[stark crown]

Also thank god ||zagreus has the unhexed gigaros spear||

[lime timber]

Howdy chat, I was wondering if anyone knows how to get ||the hidden aspects?|| I unlocked ||the Nergal axe|| and I'm trying to figure out what else I have to do, I figure that I have to talk to the people who have the ||name of the second aspect bc I got it from Charon|| but do we know if you have to have the ||weapon equipped when talking? What prerequisites are there?|| Sorry for wall of text lol

[lusty trail]

somehow after 100% the game ||(did not max the unseen rank at the taverna tho)|| the hardest one was ||the arachne outfit to final confrontation one||

[stark crown]

Really? Just run her keepsake

Took me literally 1 run

[crude minnow]

|| thats pretty easy, take her keepsake and try to get heph for the +armor boons ||

[lime timber]

I think the easiest way to get that is just try and get the one ||Hephaestus boon||, I got it by complete accident

[meager garden]

Hidden aspect requirements:
||-You must not have a secret phrase right now(unlock your previous hidden before going to get the next one)
-Rank 5 in a non-mel aspect
-all 3 aspects unlocked in that weapon
-Talk to the NPC of the second aspect of the weapon (Staff = Circe, for example)
-You do not need the weapon equipped
-Keep talking to them||

[minor stirrup]

Does anyone know if completing the Chaos Trial ||of Humility (no Arcana)|| completes the Natural Talent* prophecy (||defeat Hecate with no Arcana active||)? (If anyone searches this later, the answer is YES, the chaos trial works and you can have a keepsake equipped for it)

[tranquil wren]

yes it does

[lusty trail]

took me like 3 runs, p sure it's bugged in a way? i did the obv stuff with heph and her keepsake but it kept breaking with armor still on

[lime timber]

OOOO I didn't think about the ||nightmare|| ty so much

[broken glen]

You need to have at least one aspect at max rank!

[lusty trail]

i did the ||greater chaos below|| first try tho 😭

[lime timber]

I'd be wasting SO much time if I didn't ask bc I haven't upgraded anything with ||nightmare||

[minor stirrup]

Just to clarify, it's not just ||invest 5 nightmare in the weapon, you need to have upgraded one of the non-Melinoe aspects of the weapon all the way up to level 5||

[meager garden]

apparently they changed it in 1.0, now it's the same as hades 1
citation: some dude on this server got a hidden without a rank 5

[tranquil wren]

it's Natural Talent not Unrivalled Prowess

Unrivalled Prowess is beat all rivals bosses

[frigid sapphire]

aspect of mel axe is actually really fun, each swing makes you feel so powerful

[minor stirrup]

They did change it, but I thought the change was that you used to be able to unlock them ||with any aspect ranked up to level 5, including Melinoe, and now it has to be a non-Melinoe one?|| I played post 1.0 and no hidden aspects unlocked for me until I ||got one of the existing aspects* to level 5, I definitely had more than 5 nightmare invested across some of the weapons prior to that too, just in different aspects (not getting a single one to level 5)||

[lime timber]

Also while I'm asking, how do you ||unlock the rest of Selene's gifts||? It says to ||prove your worth with a certain aspect (the coat with Selene of course) but what does probing your work actually mean?||

[minor stirrup]

Oops sorry, that's what I meant, I'll edit it

[tranquil wren]

ye nws

[lime timber]

I haven't played Hades 1 in years, what was it in the first lmao

[tranquil wren]

but yeah it does trigger the prophecy/achievement

[broken glen]

||from what I remember, you need to get her aspect to max rank. Could be wrong, though||

[crude minnow]

end game bond spoilers || Do I need to make out icarus and moros love (past the arrow) to max bond even if I dont want a relationship with them? ||

[last frigate]

Is there any reason to destroy the webs or is it just there for environmental flavor? Never sure if some kind of loot will emerge or if I’m wasting my time

[meager garden]

you are correct I just checked the files

[crude minnow]

if its a normal room you can get extra gold by killing mobs, if its her room same thing (they will be shiny tho, regular webs no)

[minor stirrup]

The ones that might have some loot will always be visibly sparkly, so no need to destroy them unless they're sparkling

[last frigate]

Ahh k ty

[stark crown]

What you mean I can't say the friendrelationship word

[crude minnow]

a lot of words are banned here 🙁

[meager garden]

no badass words

[stark crown]

Let's try again, you can ||refuse their love||

[crude minnow]

okay but || i have to max all the hearts? ||

[stark crown]

I don't actually remember but my mind is telling me no

[crude minnow]

hmm okay || they arent fully bonded but i have all the hearts pre arrow so assuming that was it ||

[stark crown]

I clearly remember getting nem halfway

[lusty trail]

just keep advancing the bond and ||refuse the option when given||

[edgy estuary]

I gotta know, is there ||a Charon fight || in this game?

[meager garden]

no

[edgy estuary]

That's deeply sad to hear.

[hasty ocean]

there's still a secret boss you can access from midshops, unlocked after beating the game

[edgy estuary]

Noted

[nova bear]

I'm trying out these weird chaos trials and on first one I have like 1000 hp, is it supposed to be like that ?

[outer cradle]

Do the hidden aspects not get upgraded by Nightmare? Only materials? Or is it just the 1st rank?

[glad lake]

can you skip the credits

[kind wharf]

has anyone had a bug where their familiar disappears? i ran circe with raki and im suddenly realizing hes not here anymore T_T

[lusty trail]

yup

[lusty trail]

no

[glad lake]

dammit

[crude minnow]

can you get || chant the duo chaos boon from his trails or no ||

[median fable]

Hi does anyone know what gems are for?

[lusty trail]

and iirc its the same as other aspects, unlock w materials and upgrade through nightmare

[crude minnow]

you most likely told it to rest and didnt have one selected, ask me how I know

[lusty trail]

but i did it so long ago i dont fully remember. so someone back it up if possible

[kind wharf]

mayhaps...

[lusty trail]

exclusively to sell for kudos at the shop npc

[bitter ivy]

||When do i get to pet cerberus||

[outer cradle]

Ah gotcha, thanks

[kind wharf]

the onetime i run circe is the one time i dont have a familiar... really cantmake this up

[crude minnow]

how far are you in the game

[bitter ivy]

havnt reached the credits yet

[lusty trail]

keep playing

[bitter ivy]

i definetly will

i'm really really enjoying this game

[broken glen]

||I love how the Cerberus fights post-game are just labeled as playtime. He’s such a good doggy||

[desert hound]

guys how do you get the prophecy born to win ?

[lime timber]

Update, this worked, can confirm tysm

Unfortunately it means I need to get to farming lmao

[minor stirrup]

IKR, it's a lot! Thankfully once you get to 10 fear you start getting 2 nightmare per Testament completion, which helps speed things up a lot

[lime timber]

I already had most of them bc I just never used them but I need like 6 more

I never really played with testaments tbh, I only did it a few times trying to get the one ||boon from Medea or Circe that lowers the fear for you (still haven't gotten it grrr)||

[lusty trail]

does anyone know what the (post-ending/epilogue mild spoilers) ||max rank with the taverna shade that upgrades your unseen sigil|| is

[pine flume]

i dont get aspect of Hel

[lime timber]

Oh god I just unlocked something

[minor stirrup]

Omega special, omega attack, then sprint around with a good rush boon (I was confused ignore me lol)

[lusty trail]

u might be confusing hel for supay?

[minor stirrup]

Oops mb!

[lime timber]

Dang I forgot that was a thing in the first game, that's going to be annoying

[lusty trail]

hel is mostly Ospec then mindless attack spam on anything that moves

[lime timber]

||I already have been spending all my kudos on decorating to try and get Hestia to let her to max her out, I'm COOKED||

[light thicket]

It can't be possible, how is it that after 80 hours of gameplay the game reveals to me a prophecy that i need to complete the game with ALL aspects? This is absurd, i've reached the end more than 25 times but i like to play with few aspects, that's frustrating

[digital shoal]

I mean…the prophecy is optional?

you can choose to not do it but if you’re looking to 100% you kinda need to accept you’ll be forced out your comfort zone

[light thicket]

yeah, i would like to get all achievements, but revealing to me in this stage of the game is a bad decision

[upper rover]

What's the best pet for aspect of Circle?

[crude minnow]

honestly its not that bad if you go 0fear, it takes like 15-20 mins a run

[digital shoal]

Im doing the prophecy of clearing summit with all weapons and I don’t like the Coat or the Skull but that’s the point: to give me incentive to go out of my comfort zone.

[crude minnow]

i do them when they have thirst and farm other prohpcies at same time

[sharp nymph]

Raki or Tula for circie

[digital shoal]

literally how is this “bad game design”

[light thicket]

this is not just a grind achievement, but hiding from the player is in a way bad game design

[lime timber]

Oh god I need SO much more ||nightmare|| than I thought, I haven't been collecting them at all

[light thicket]

i dont mind getting the achievement, but i'm mad to know this late in the game

[short raft]

Okay, does Emotional Wreck work on Typhon Y/N?
Cuz so far it does not.

[sharp nymph]

Yeah I need a ton there is like 3 ways or acquiring them tho

[digital shoal]

I think if you were looking to 100% a game like this you should 1000% expect a thing Thats like “beat the game with every weapon in the game”

[lime timber]

Welp I'm gonna get working at it I guess lol

[hollow lily]

arachne is a freak that wants to fck me

[sharp nymph]

It's not too bad and like I say you got 3 different sources for it but it does take a whiiiiile

[lusty trail]

it is very much implied it goes both ways as well

[last smelt]

what does one build on morrigan because i genuinely cant figure it out

[lime timber]

What's the 3rd? You can buy them and also beat bosses but

[digital shoal]

literally kinda whatever 😭
ares/zeus/aphro is good. I like Hephaestus cuz hes funny

[tame socket]

can anyone tell me if there is a specific requirement to trigger ||the prometheus dialogue for the find the fates prophecy he who rebels against the gods part?||

[lusty trail]

my favorite aspect ever. on spec blitz, ares, freeze, etc something that works for low damage. on attack legit anything except for heph id say

[sharp nymph]

Are u really early ? Don't won't to spoil u

[lime timber]

I've beaten the game, dw ||including epilogue thingy||

[lusty trail]

specially good with demeter Oatk boost because it's the only worth omega to do on that aspect anyway

[digital shoal]

yeah attack heph isnt too useful but I like heph special on it

[light thicket]

not actually, but anyways, hades has a boring platinum, both of them

[digital shoal]

what do you mean “not actually”

[sharp nymph]

The broker and also the box and fear runs also some profs reward then

[last smelt]

see thats it you can do literally whatever because blood triad doesnt increase but i still dont understand how to build with it- my thought was apollo leg for double omega attack but i really dont know

[lime timber]

Ohhh right the box, low-key I just saw that and forgot

[sharp nymph]

I guess its all the same area tho

Some profs reward like 4+

[lime timber]

I swear Medea is always there except when you need her

[lusty trail]

that works as well! morrigan works with so much stuff its insane. u can also work towards freezer burn if you wanted

[waxen lake]

Fact

[sharp nymph]

And fear runs can net u quite a few

[digital shoal]

like that is 1000% an expectation you should have if you’re looking to do 100% of a roguelike: doing everything in it, including beating a run with every weapon. That kinda goes hand in hand with every roguelike’s 100% no??

[lime timber]

She's just like Hercules

[lusty trail]

i think strongest morrigan build is still somewhere around zeus spec hestia atk and demeter cast with their respective duos tho

[sharp nymph]

Morrigans more about the strat in guess

[dense roost]

|| is there a way to make nemesis appear in nar room? or complete rng? and for nar to be in echo room, does skipping nar room in oceanus helps for him to appear in echo room? ||

[light thicket]

well, the game can be challenging in various forms, other achievements like champion of the night or arachne veil achievement were fun to get, i do not agree that i need to complete the game with every weapon

[dense roost]

how to add spoiler tag?

[light thicket]

Dead Cells for example doesn't have this kind of achievement, althought it has a lot more weapons

[lime timber]

I just had a very very stupid idea for a mod or something

[sharp nymph]

Highlight the text

[idle crater]

type || before and after what you want to spoil

[lusty trail]

yeah just rng everything. spoilers is ||

[digital shoal]

That’s exactly why Dead Cells doesnt have this??????

[light thicket]

i should start grinding, or i'm not finishing this anytime soon

[crude minnow]

it was all rng for me, || I would have them in their rooms alone with normal dialogue several times before the stuff rpocced ||

[lime timber]

You know the crystal skull, like the one from the Indiana Jones movie that nobody likes? Someone should mod it in as an aspect for the skull weapon

[sharp nymph]

In a game like this complete with each wep is always gonna be a goal

[digital shoal]

Why is beating the game with every weapon not a challenge???

[lofty pumice]

Are there any non-"social" rewards for giving an NPC a buttload of nectar?

[dense roost]

|| i saw nars in echo room once, that because i skipped nar room in oceanus, i thought that would help him appear in echo room more often? ||

[lime timber]

Completely stupid idea but it'd be funny for 5 minutes so

[marsh wyvern]

sup i have a question regarding the disintigration of || Typhon and Chronos. am i able to continue to play the game like now once i disintigrate Typhon with the incantation? bc i understand it like getting rid of him for good but how are u supposed to play afterwards if thats the case?||

[tame socket]

dead cells would probably have it if it had a thing that let you select a weapon at all

[sharp nymph]

Lol does it make you direct a bad film as a special

[lime timber]

You'll see

[marsh wyvern]

no i dont want to ruin my save if im unable to play afterwards

[dense roost]

|| i saw nars in echo room once, that because i skipped nar room in oceanus, i thought that would help him appear in echo room more often? ||
Thanks though for the help aappreciate it ❤️

[idle crater]

you're able to play afterwards

[tame socket]

yes, gameplay continues

[light thicket]

the problem is not the achievement!!! the problem is that the game revealed it to me 80 hours in, i should have completed this already if i knew

[lime timber]

I was more thinking something like the Demeter laser beam boon from the first game bc I think the whole point was staring at the skull, idk I haven't seen it for a while and all I remember is having nightmares about the aliens

[crude minnow]

no idea if that helps or not but I assume || if the room spawns then he wont go to 3rd floor that run but I could be wrong ||

[lusty trail]

just look at it through the lens of okay the game is giving me even more content to do instead of just being done

[sharp nymph]

Oh well, no point moaning about it , just get on with it

[marsh wyvern]

i can just play like usual and also defeat ||Typhon and Chronos like now?||

[digital shoal]

I feel like it’s sort of on you if you didn’t expect this Im nnnnnnnot going to lie

[lime timber]

Yep!

[tame socket]

yes, same same

[marsh wyvern]

ty

[sharp nymph]

I only remember the truly awful CGI of the monkey chase

[lime timber]

FINALLY Hestia is letting me gift her again, I've spent more than the GDP of a small country on decorations

[still dagger]

thought; the weird monuments that appear in some locations (where you have to beat a single enemy with weird attributes and the one where you have to beat enemies unscathed) should have some sort of notification. they are too easy to miss

[digital shoal]

what did I even say that got deleted what

[lime timber]

There was also a weird buzzsaw tank and also the ant scene, those ants were not great for an anxious child

[sharp nymph]

Yeah I guess I'm super old so I just remember it for how awful it was lol

[light thicket]

i mean, placing the achievements as a hidden prophecy in steam tab is a cool feature, but the fact i cannot see what i need to do and only when the fates decide is... dubious

[lime timber]

Oh even though I was a kid when I watched it I recognized it was pretty terrible lmao

[sharp nymph]

I mean u can just goto global archive and reveal them

[turbid walrus]

Is there any sort of influence over whether the infernal contract to fight ||zagreus|| appears in a shop or not? It happened to me once and I lost, and now it’s been like 10 nights since with no appearance 😢

[light thicket]

Anyway, i got half of them already, maybe in 6 hours i get it

[sharp nymph]

If Ur achieve hunting u should really expect a game like this to have one for clear with each wep

[lusty trail]

i mean if you knew all the achievements' text straight up from the start that would just spoil stuff?

[sharp nymph]

Nah it's just rng mate

[light thicket]

steam has a "hidden achievement" feature

[turbid walrus]

Dam, my rng is abysmal rn

[lime timber]

RNG? In MY roguelike? Preposterous

[sharp nymph]

Yeah and u can reveal them by going to the global achive

[light thicket]

skill issue as always

[tame socket]

does anyone know for farming ||nightmare through testaments, the nightmare you get from defeating the specific boss, does it just gimp your ability to farm nightmare if you run a higher fear with a weapon instead of doing it incrementally one at a time, or does something change after you do high fear runs with all the weapons? Like I did a 24 run with the black coat, and now there is no black coat in the testaments list, so I can't earn nightmare with it outside of the random altars/broker, if I go and do 20+/30+ fear runs with the other weapons will they also disappear from the testaments and make nightmare farming even slower?||

[lime timber]

Good question, I was wondering the same tbh

[sharp nymph]

The first time it appeared for me I only noticed it as I was leaving the room and had already clocked the door lol

[light thicket]

yes, but then you will choose to get the spoilers

[lusty trail]

would love to give a clear answer but in EA it used to be like this, so if the thing happened w the black coat then yes probably. you can still buy nightmare from shops and fear chests tho

[sharp nymph]

I mean that's the way it is

[tame socket]

I remember hades 1 did a similar thing, it gimped you on the boss rewards if you didn't incrementally clear it

[sharp nymph]

It's gonna take like a couple of hours to do a few clears

[tame socket]

I think they eventually changed it way later tho

[sharp nymph]

Nah once u get to a certain point they disappear at least that's what happend to me

[tame socket]

ah okay that's unfortunate

[lime timber]

Thought we were talking about something else, smh my head

[sharp nymph]

But it takes a while, in the meantime make sure u use Ur tokens and bones only for nmare

[tame socket]

yeah I mean it's just silly that it punishes you for doing higher difficulty runs

[sharp nymph]

You can sell fish etc for bones and well

[lusty trail]

oh right and ||the charon box in the crossroads river eventually gets the option for nightmare as well||

[lime timber]

Basically use the cat for extra fish and then use the weapon that gives you extra bones to figure things out I think

Also I FINALLY maxed out all the keepsakes :)

[sharp nymph]

Yeah I just stayed with the progress so I could farm longer and use my fave aspects for pushing

[kind spoke]

back to H2 after awhile and I don't remember HATING the blood sucking shade boss this much. Started a new save file, running it for the story.

but literally F this thing.

[stuck lagoon]

thoughtt I should ask folks erebus and predicting maybe it's headmistress after this choice... question charon shop or hammer... I got 403 coins

[tropic monolith]

just gotta prioritize dodging its melee, it is brutal

[sharp nymph]

Yeah I played ages in ea so I already had buying options unlocked etc so I never ran out really apart from a run or 2 while I was upgrading them all

[lusty trail]

charon shop. hammer will appear later again (probably)

[kind spoke]

im fine with dodging it most of the time, but it heals SO MUCH

[lime timber]

I was an early access tester by the grace of God and then I decided to wait until the final game came out

[tropic monolith]

For bounty targets, does anyone know if it's the vow that makes them award 2 nightmares or if it's just higher level bounties doing it?

[tame socket]

yeah that's what I'm going to do just unfortunately can't use my favorite weapon lol, they should really fix that

[sharp nymph]

I see the vampire brought up a lot, I didn't even realise he was a vampire lol. Kill his adds then him

[tropic monolith]

that's why you have to prioritize avoiding it!

[velvet cave]

Just got a 100% save file

[lusty trail]

congrats :)

[lime timber]

Even if you kill his ads he's very annoying, I dislike him very much

[sharp nymph]

U do the lvl of fear when incomplete it with that aspect u get a higher target

[tropic monolith]

yeah, just sometimes it gives 2 nightmares; is that from the higher level of fear required or the vow being enabled?

[velvet cave]

Thanks!

[sharp nymph]

Yeah it's as u get higher

[simple sierra]

you know what I'd love, a hades style co-op mmo focused on raids/dungeons. I feel like if they created distinct classes it would be so fun. Kinda like nightreign but with the rogue feel and mechanics of hades

[velvet cave]

Getting to unseen 1 rank was the biggest grind

[sharp nymph]

Some minor proffecies reward quite a lot of darkness

[tame socket]

do you know which level removes it from the list? or is it a # of successful runs thing?

[lusty trail]

wait do you know what the highest rank is

[sharp nymph]

It's like 20 fear

[velvet cave]

Yeah it’s unseen 1. There are 50 in total. 5 ranks with 10 levels each

[kind spoke]

one hit heals it halfway. If you don't have a goodamount of damage at that point, you can be dodging 95% of his attacks and making 0 headway

[lusty trail]

😭 😭 😭 need to do 20 more then damn

[tropic monolith]

yep!

[tame socket]

thanks

[sharp nymph]

Yeah it's a nice resource dump tbh

[sour flower]

experiencing the ending for the first time, all i can think about is ||how damn zesty chronos looks in his nice guy artworks lol||

[velvet cave]

I waited to do it until I had unlocked everything else so I can just dump all of my resources into kudos

[sharp nymph]

What's everyone's fave aspects and why is it the coat? 😔

[lime timber]

The first time I won it was bc the coat, the special is just kinda busted lol

Hestia+the special goes crazy

[sharp nymph]

Coat was my first surface clear as well

[kind spoke]

has the community finally come around on it? its so good

[echo light]

i want to copy my save of hades 2 to the pc, does anyone know how to do that

[lusty trail]

im still so scared of touching the bottom resources on the shop shade bc i need iron? for something? and none of the infinite incantations in the cauldron need it somehow

[sharp nymph]

Now I play nyx a lot

[lime timber]

No idea, I disliked the firsts in the first game

[simple sierra]

there's a sync save option iirc in the menu

[velvet cave]

Circe staff, Morrigan daggers, moros torches, Charon axe, Medea skull, and Mel coat

[sharp nymph]

Just save like 10-15 of stuff and sell the rest

[lime timber]

I don't get how I'm supposed to use it lowkey

Also the Thanatos aspect is so good, I adore it

[sharp nymph]

Do you know the crossroads website ?

[simple sierra]

pretty much these but ngl i like selene coat and all of the skull aspects

[lusty trail]

i hate that nyx nightspawn doesn't hit the same guy kinda

[bronze stream]

I think its mostly high fear ppl and speedrunners hating on coat

[velvet cave]

It said that for me too. I assume there’s some kind of super hidden incantation out there it’s necessary for. I’ve done everything I possibly can though so it might be a bug

[buoyant matrix]

I'm high fear people and it's good

[lime timber]

I got the one hammer that speeds up your swings along with the Hermes boon and a maxed out axe, it was STUPID

[bronze stream]

Did they buff it in 1.0?

I know its had a few buffs since its initial sad state

[simple sierra]

favourite thing about this game is how all the weapons are fun and feel good. In hades 1 I ignored the bonus to certain weapons and played what I wanted, in 2 I just always take the highlighted weapon and enjoy it

[lime timber]

All the weapons are fun and good except for the skull. I tried to love you skull

[lusty trail]

my faves are anubis staff, morrigan daggers, supay/mel torches, than axe, mel skull and selene coat

[simple sierra]

moros torches for me

[lime timber]

Hopefully the secret aspect saves the skull bc I hate that weapon otherwise lol

[lusty trail]

mel torches are funny for the sole reason of being able to put aphrodite in there if i wanted to

[kind spoke]

isn't the skull like THE highest damaging weapon and THE speedrunning weapon

[simple sierra]

skull is fun with every aspect imo

[bronze stream]

Also does poseidon exhaust riser work again? I heard poseidon got fixed from last patch

[lime timber]

I'm not a meta person, I just dislike it. Idk I didn't like the gun much in the first game either, though I really liked the Lucifer aspect

[stuck lagoon]

for me it's the sister blades it's basically what I wanted in hades 1

[tame socket]

if I had to guess it's probably the black coat, the special spam goes crazy and seems faster than everything else in the game

[velvet cave]

Yes I think they fixed the ICD in exchange for a slight nerf to his special boon

[lusty trail]

actually does seismic servo work on artemis riposte downtime

[lime timber]

I play with like a curved sword or sickle in any game I can, so I feel you

[lusty trail]

or is it boon only

[bronze stream]

Medea is the best skull aspect by far, the hidden aspect is interesting but it kinda just seems like an attempt to sneak a rail-like weapon in

[kind spoke]

Im pretty sure the Medea Skull is it

[lime timber]

I got the Medea skull in the one chaos challenge and it was strong but I just don't mesh with it much

[lusty trail]

anubis also seems to get a lot of use

[bronze stream]

Ok then coat is Back as far as im concerned. I know its bad to depend on one hammer but idc that combo was great

[tame socket]

I think it takes longer to just load the skulls than it does for the whole special to fire and hit with the coat though

[lusty trail]

medea works bc of the combo you can do by sliding your finger on controller though

[lime timber]

Istg if Circe doesn't show up in this run lmao

[sharp nymph]

Coats been used loads in high fear runs

[bronze stream]

If youre loading multiple skulls with medea youre wrong

[devout cairn]

you don't load all of the skulls, you do attack > special > attack > special ad nauseam

[lime timber]

Oh that's probably way better than what I did

[tame socket]

ah

[royal fable]

Is Glorious Disaster (Apollo/Zeus) even working? I did 3 runs focusing on this duo and I really just dont see any difference between regular prominence flare and glorious disaster

[velvet cave]

Mel coat with Poseidon attack and arterial spray is one of my favorites for low/mid fear

[bronze stream]

When you get the feel for it, its really nothing at all like the other skulls

[real aurora]

am I able to ||romance all 4 NPC's? or do i have to choose 1 per safe file?||

[lime timber]

I prefer the blades with the Poseidon attack but it's good with the coat toon

[idle crater]

you can do all of them

[royal fable]

u can all 4

[velvet cave]

It’s good with blades too but the knockback can get slightly annoying

[tame socket]

will give this a try

[sharp nymph]

H2crossroads.pages.dev. Awesome site with loads of runs uploaded and arcana and build sets ups etc

[real aurora]

MELINOE MY ||BISEXUAL POLYGAMOUS|| QUEEN

[bronze stream]

Its funny how games like Witcher 3 and Stardew have special 'bad' cutscenes for trying to date everyone at once, and then theres this

[sharp nymph]

Lot of the really high fear guys uploadbthere vids there

[sharp nymph]

I like Mel coat for how speedy it is but I love nyx

[real aurora]

You get the best of all worlds, ||a twink, a dommy mommy, a butch, and a gigachad||

[lime timber]

This sequel had really fixed my main issue with the first game as I can play as a polyamorous lesbian instead of a polyamorous bisexual /hj

[sharp nymph]

Lol

Fixed !!

[lime timber]

I mean I played the first one before I realized I was trans, this is just the natural conclusion

[sharp nymph]

So the first time I played Hades I was kinda wasted and spent the first night thinking hybos was a girl and sorta fancied him lol

[lime timber]

Honestly real lmao

[sharp nymph]

Yeah fr

Lol the next day I was like hold up this a dude

[real aurora]

hybos? or hypnos

[rose canyon]

404 gigachad not found

[lime timber]

He's twinkish enough for it to be hard to tell

[sharp nymph]

Haha hybos, I was more than a little sideways

[real aurora]

my storage space ran out so i couldnt properly slot moros

[bronze stream]

Hymbos?

[sharp nymph]

Any of u guys done judgement runs yet ?

[broken raven]

yes

[lime timber]

Circe has deeply disappointed me

[sharp nymph]

Why she a queen 👑

[broken glen]

Can’t believe we’ll never be able to go inside her house

[lime timber]

Oh no I love her very much she just didn't show up, I need her for the hidden aspects

[sharp nymph]

Yeah that sucks I still check every time just in case

Now u need her.... 10 runs later

[rigid fulcrum]

Melinoe has two hands.

[sharp nymph]

One If u want to be pedantic

[broken glen]

Wildfrost pfp?? In my hades 2 channel?

[lime timber]

The Crossroads is more or less a large polycule

[rigid fulcrum]

Yus :3

[broken glen]

Based

[sharp nymph]

Haha yeah they are bored AF tbh

[light thicket]

Random chaos trials can count toward the prophecy of completing the game with all aspects?

[lime timber]

Is this a question?

[sharp nymph]

Nemesis without her helmet is kinda amazing ngl

[rigid fulcrum]

Are there Chaos trials that have you actually complete the game? I haven't seen any that final boss.

[lime timber]

In that case I have NO idea

[sharp nymph]

I think you need to clear

There is some spoilers stuff related to that question

And my phone is borked so can't do spoilers lol

[rigid fulcrum]

I don't think that Chaos trials are 1.0 spoilers, so it's fine.

[lime timber]

I've done most of them except the ones that have 4+ eyes so idk

[sharp nymph]

Once undone then all there is trials to complete a full run with it

[lime timber]

Also ngl the reward for redoing a trial is REALLY pitiful tbh

[rigid fulcrum]

You unlock more trials when you unlock more aspects.

[sharp nymph]

One with base game and one with 20 fear

[lime timber]

Only 50 bones is nothing, that's 1 rooms worth

[light thicket]

||once you release every aspect, it seems that 4 new trials are shown, and it seems that these trials are full runs||

[rigid fulcrum]

That's the beauty of it. You don't need to do them again. But if you do, you're just playing with generally pretty suped up builds, and getting free extra stuff on top of it.

[sharp nymph]

Yeah lol, the chaos full clears sre fun tho but there should be an option for higher fesr

Some of the builds are cool the nergal build is sick

[lime timber]

They're pretty good for getting rare boons though

[rigid fulcrum]

Chaos is just trying to have fun, and show you neat stuff, most of them aren't too hard.

[upper rover]

Is there any way to ||awake Hypnos||?? I gave him a potion, and nothing happened since then

[sharp nymph]

Lol

[lime timber]

Freudian slip

[rigid fulcrum]

Eventually. There's more to do.

[sharp nymph]

Just progress ull get there

[real aurora]

gotta bring him a bottle of that HYPNOTIC (not serious)

[rigid fulcrum]

Keep talking to people. If you want a hint towards the next step, I can help out a lil.

[sharp nymph]

Eventually ull get minor proffecies for a lot of stuff

And it's all detailed there , kinda

[lime timber]

I wish there was a give up button that didn't reset the night, it's so annoying trying to go and get one thing and then having to sit there and let enemies kill you through 3 death defiances

[sharp nymph]

Lol yeah , u got the reset seed incsnt yet ?

[rigid fulcrum]

Don't bring death defiances if you're just hoping for one thing I guess.

[tranquil wren]

shrimply run strength

[lime timber]

Problem is I'll need them if I do get the one thing so

[rigid fulcrum]

Oh, you're just resetting hoping for a boon or something?

[lime timber]

Don't believe so? Do you know what triggers it?

[viscid dove]

guys how many nights did it take to you to beat ||chronos|| for the first time?

[sharp nymph]

You need to clear up and down 8 times each

[lime timber]

No I'm trying to get Circe and Medea to show up and then also get some nightmare

[lime timber]

I feel like I've done that already... Maybe I just haven't gone down enough or something

[sharp nymph]

Also you won't be able to do both of them in one night

[robust burrow]

I found a werid interaction where volcanic strike with trick knives puts the buff on the special. Should I F10 it?

[rigid fulcrum]

Until Eris left me alone.

[sharp nymph]

If you check with the record keeper you can see how many runs undone

[devout cairn]

14

[lime timber]

It took me like 17 attempts but I also play on God Mode bc I only like that much pain lol

[tame socket]

14 or 15 I forget

[lime timber]

Which is strange given I'm a Soulsborne girly but idk

[sharp nymph]

Haha , whatever your enjoying

Rogue likes are different from souls stuff I guess

Sekiro nearly broke me

[rigid fulcrum]

It's a video game, the important thing is to have fun. Have as much challenge as is fun for you.

[lime timber]

True, far more RNG

[hearty fog]

Souls games are easy, Hades requires way more interaction and skill.

[sharp nymph]

I'm trying to do 32 underworld I am not even close 😭

[lime timber]

I got to the final boss of Sekiro and got walled, I've beaten every other souls game but I just got sick of fighting him and now I don't have my console with Sekiro lol

[real aurora]

this is a take that I am on board with but from a far

[sharp nymph]

Yeah his a savage

[rigid fulcrum]

According to my record keeper, I beat Chronos for the first time on Night 10.

[lime timber]

Absolutely, I'm not an annoying elitist about these things, I just thought it was interesting

[sharp nymph]

Let's get real if u want hard games u play platformers

[hearty fog]

I used to be able to generate a ton of buzz basically anywhere I went with that take, everyone I know is used to me now.

[broken glen]

When I first did 32 underworld, I was struggling hard using meta weapons, and then I did a meme run with Mel torches + white antler and won instantly 💀

[sharp nymph]

They know Ur plan

[atomic river]

can i challenge|| typhon again after killing him with gigaros spear?|| what happens

[hearty fog]

||Yes, there's no gameplay limitation.||

[lime timber]

Not actually sure if you do it immediately, idk if the game will let you do that

[rigid fulcrum]

Not until you beat the game fully. You have to go the other way. You're not allowed to go back till after.

[devout cairn]

nope the game loses the final typhon fight, weird decision by supergiant

[hearty fog]

Wait, are you on your first push to the credits?

[lime timber]

How does it get around that?

[sharp nymph]

Haha perfect. I can clear 24 reliably but just working my way up. But I am struggling lol

[lime timber]

That's what I figured would happen

I completely understand slow mode but it is a bit of a shame when it comes to trying to hold conversations

[atomic river]

yea havent got them yet somehow ive been just trying builds i just beat|| typhon with the spear|| on 32 fear trying a melionoe staff build

[rigid fulcrum]

Game is pretty strict about it too. Once you have ||Gigaros|| and enough eyes, it won't let you leave without doing the incantation.

[atomic river]

welp time for chronos

[lime timber]

32 heat and no credits is crazy to me, that's impressive

[sharp nymph]

Yeah lol

[atomic river]

medea skull here i come

[slow plinth]

Medea build feels so bad on mouse and keyboard. I was absolutely smashing a run and then i got to typhons tail and died because I couldn't him

[atomic river]

lol same i play on keyboard too sometimes i wish i had autoaim

[sharp nymph]

Also makes me sad . I played medea some today for the first time..it's dmg is insane but it's honestly not much fun

[hearty fog]

Auto-aim is available for MKB players.

Sometimes you'll charge where your mouse cursor is, but most of the time it's pretty good about aiming at enemies.

[atomic river]

yeah there is auto aim sometimes im js bad though

[rigid fulcrum]

I like mouse and keyboard because of the ability to manually aim. It's cozier for me.

[sharp nymph]

I like nyx and circie are my 2 fave aspects

[slow plinth]

It's nothing like controller, with controller you just gotta be facing the enemy and it'll auto correct

[sharp nymph]

Charon is cool as well

[atomic river]

circe so fun it and medea prolly my favs

[sharp nymph]

I LOVE ciricie you can make some really ridiculous casts stuff lol

[slow plinth]

Im not a big fan of medea but I figured if I could get to typhon i'd win. But then I got screwed by typhons tail lol

[atomic river]

oh yeah the surface is blocked off

[rigid fulcrum]

Yup.

[lime timber]

Is there a lore reason for why Prometheus is such a (word I can't say here) with his fire sweep ultimate ability

[rigid fulcrum]

You're locked into the endgame sequence. Don't worry, it's not going to stretch it out. (except the credits, gosh. Please let me skip. Or tab out at least.)

[devout cairn]

I agree, there really arent that many people in here to warrant a slowmode, let alone 15 second one. Silksong's server had like 10 times the messages and it was 10 seconds, still fine too

[lime timber]

He's gotta stop forcing me to do cross country from the bottom to the top lmao

[bronze stream]

Im glad the most busted aspect in the game is as much fun as it is

[atomic river]

time to try 32 fear surface again but with medea this time instead of moros

[sharp nymph]

Prometheus will do 2 normal attacks and then a big attack

[bronze stream]

If supay was the best thing in the game it would be pretty sad

[sharp nymph]

Oh u mean the memory

[thick coral]

medea?

[bronze stream]

Yeah

[lime timber]

No like the ultimate one where he projects it, I just got the most annoying possible seed where it basically forced me to go from the top to bottom 5 times lmao

[crude minnow]

can you meet || npcs on chaos trails? ||

[sharp nymph]

I honestly didn't like the medea play style

[bronze stream]

I can understand it not being everyone's thing but i quite like it

[atomic river]

whats a good medea build i havent used it inna while

[visual badge]

can someone help, im stuck in the path of stars menu and cant choose an upgrade

[lime timber]

Aphrodite is probably really good with it

[rigid fulcrum]

I have a hot take here.

[thick coral]

ngl its fair that its the most busted tbh, since its a high risk high reward aspect imo

[somber sigil]

can you meet Echo/Narcissus in Chaos trials?