h2-discussion

[weary shore]

I love Eris, but I have a type 🥵

[unreal isle]

nemesis and Hecate are my all time favourite characters for sure

[weary shore]

And that type is toxic, bratty, antagontic women with pixie cuts

[unreal isle]

low-key starting to hate zag after that ending

[tall spoke]

yeah and i do not generally like characters who exist to just be ahs

[plain zephyr]

we may disagree who the best character is but we can all agree Cerberus is the best boy

[tall spoke]

yes

[little frost]

I mean you don't have to like eris but I think her inclusion in the game is fun and good overall

[dusky mountain]

[unreal isle]

the fact that we can't talk to him(?) sucks

[plain zephyr]

what do you mean you can talk to him

[unreal isle]

well no, not like h1 where we could give nectars and talk after every run

[plain zephyr]

oh thats what you mean

[tall spoke]

man as a lesbian i wish there were romanceable female characters in hades 2 that i actually think are good characters

[olive cedar]

whats the best weapon to use with hephaestus

[unreal isle]

if you do not like melinoe x nemesis then idk dude

[tall spoke]

sigh, i guess i gotta write fem moros or fem icarus for decent melinoë yuri

[unreal isle]

Aspect of Persephone for sure

[tall spoke]

she’s temu megaera

[plain zephyr]

yeah i like that she has her aspect of the gun (cant remember name) when you fight her and the aspect of lucifer in her unrivaled mode

[tall spoke]

(derogatory)

[unreal isle]

nemesis > meg

[devout cairn]

I wouldn't like Eris as a person but the character is fun, now Moros and Icarus, talk about boring ahh vanilla wholesome chungus characters 😭

[dusty panther]

hey my dora quest linen seems to have reset, i have the achievement and i can decorate with dora now but rn i have to redo all the dialog it seems

[real aurora]

nemesis bath >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[plain zephyr]

same with nemesis and the sword

[weary shore]

You have begun a battle that will never end in this channel 🍿

[meager garden]

and athena and the shield

[unreal isle]

nemesis bath 🙏🙏🙏

[buoyant matrix]

her aspect of the gun is called eris... because she's eris...

[plain zephyr]

i meant the name of the gun

[unreal isle]

low-key I'm ragebaiting at this point

[crude dragon]

Exagryph

[buoyant matrix]

ah. exagryph

[unreal isle]

the best romance will always be Thanatos in my heart

[plain zephyr]

i didn't notice that

[tall spoke]

megthanzag polycule clears every other romance

[unreal isle]

you aren't even wrong 💔💔 that trio gagged me the first time I saw it

[tall spoke]

i will end my controversial complaining with this: i really do not think nemesis has anything going for her other than “i’m temu megaera”

now i’m gonna talk about stuff i Do like about hades 2

[unreal isle]

I really wanna ragebait but it's 8 pm and I'm tired

[olive cedar]

what about ERIS!!!!!!!!!!

[tall spoke]

would say “leave the ragebaiting to me” but im done

[unreal isle]

silence is the better option

[tall spoke]

i mean i just got done complaining abt why i hate her

[olive cedar]

oh

[unreal isle]

look at us being adults

[tall spoke]

if you like her then ok

[olive cedar]

yea shes a girlboss

[tall spoke]

anyway here is what i like about hades 2!!! i love hecate, and her dynamic with mel

[unreal isle]

Hecate clears the actual family

especially that being called chr*nos

[olive cedar]

hades more like gaydes

[tall spoke]

HADES 2 POST GAME SPOILERS ||hecate truly is the embodiment of self-love and that’s great||

[unreal isle]

I'll stan her till my last breath

[tall spoke]

do NOT click if you haven’t maxed hecate’s relationship btw ^^^

[tribal yew]

Nice. I got an achievement that's less than 3%

[olive cedar]

i friggin hate this bot man

[tall spoke]

i meeeEEANN it isn’t ||hades or persephone or zag’s fault they couldn’t be there as a family for mel because chronos stole that from them. i do think zag’s decision was uh. questionable.||

[tribal yew]

Bring a dress to Chronos fight

[unreal isle]

the last part + Chronos as a whole pmo

[winged geyser]

guys, how do you trigger the ||epilogue||? I've been doing runs both under and surface but Idk if I'm missing something

[little frost]

keep playing and gifting generally

[stable flame]

Well ||from Zag's point of view he has a giant spear and can just threaten Chronos. Given Chronos state I don't think there was a ton ready to go wrong there, they were able to keep an eye on him and all ||

[winged geyser]

that's what I'm doing

[olive cedar]

i like eris because she does actually have a few positive or desirable traits to the point where you get why shes like that even if yea shes objectively a bad person

[winged geyser]

so... I'll keep doing that I guess

[olive cedar]

it feels like she actually has a real personality and isnt locked into one archetype to me

[stable flame]

Make sure to give gifts to people you now have access to and keep an eye on the list

[tall spoke]

ngl i was expecting eris to go down the route of “i don’t actually want to be an ahole, i want to be nicer”

[stable flame]

And like just going through the new dialogues

[winged geyser]

I do

already maxed

[stable flame]

Oh damn

[tall spoke]

for me, eris falls into the camp of characters like jack horner from puss in boots: irredeemable aholes who couldn’t care less

[little frost]

I do feel like a lot of characters kinda don't go anywhere or develop all that much from knowing mel other than a few

[olive cedar]

she really is like that the story just gives her more reasons for her TO be like that

[stable flame]

Did you check the list again? It updates for the big goal

[olive cedar]

i dont agree realllllllllly

[weary shore]

Goddess of strife and discord becoming nice would be kinda weird, like what would she even be the goddess of at that point?

[tall spoke]

i mean we had ||zagreus going all steven universe on chronos||

[olive cedar]

i think she doesnt care less yea but it comes from a much more lighthearted place than jack horner who just wants to take over the world because hes greedy and evil

[winged geyser]

I don't have any prophecy about it, nor the denizens of the sea one for that matter. I caught 26 fish and Idk if I'm missing something either, saw the achievement but no prophecy

[stable flame]

Wait you don't have find the fates?

[winged geyser]

oh yeah, that one I do

[stable flame]

That one will update at some point with a bit more guidance

[winged geyser]

but it doesn't say much else, let me check

[weary shore]

But he’s not the personification of strife

[stable flame]

Like twice actually it updates iirc

[weary shore]

Eris has to cause fights and discord or she isn’t a goddess of strife anymore

Her whole golden apple wouldn’t make sense either

[winged geyser]

oh wait, it says something above

[tall spoke]

TODAY WE USE OUR POWER TO SEIZE OUR DESTINY AND FELL A GOD something something something

[stable flame]

Its her whole thing but gotta say it doesn't make for a good person

[winged geyser]

I'm an idi*t

[devout cairn]

but she carries an apple with her all the time...

[weary shore]

Idk i like her better this way

[stable flame]

I def almost missed it when I did it lol, I think Moros just makes a comment about it changing or something

[tall spoke]

hear me out. hear me out NONE of the greek gods are good people

[winged geyser]

it says ||using our emissary's gift activate it thrice in different chambers of oceanus and return to us purposefully||

[tall spoke]

look at arachne and athena

[stable flame]

Yep you're right near the end of that

[devout cairn]

it was just a prank

[stable flame]

The prior update had it telling you who to talk to and now you're on the final step

[winged geyser]

since what changes was the text above and not the one below . I didn't see it

[tall spoke]

so when does melinoë get to call athena out for arachne?

[stable flame]

Yeah its the only time so very easy to miss

[weary shore]

Yeah, i think that tracks with the actual myths

[olive cedar]

oh yea obviously which is even more why i think eris is mroe justifited in this society at least

[jaunty copper]

Hi, i have a BUG with familiares. I have frino, toula and hecuba, along with multiple treast, but i cant find the option to feed them to upgrade their skills. Also dont hace the incantation "bravery of familiars spirits". Any solution??

[crude dragon]

||How do we tell her?||

[olive cedar]

prometheus my moral goat

[tall spoke]

prometheus had a point

[crude dragon]

Get Raki

We love fountain room RNG

[tall spoke]

you’re missing raki and gale!

[meager garden]

too bad the ending didn't agree

[crude dragon]

Speaking of fountain room RNG, has anyone ever seen the Oceanus fountain room?

[stable flame]

I did hope for more call outs for like their worst offenses at least but ig fixing the morality of the Greek pantheon was something they didn't decide they wanted to tackle which was boring

[little frost]

prometheus my poor boy

[jaunty copper]

Thx uuuu 🫶🏻

[amber oasis]

“Arachne deserved it actually” is… a take

[devout cairn]

prometheus' being the people's champion had him as my favorite character but having him || lose to you with Heracles || was so embarassing. Supergiant did my boy dirty 😔

[little frost]

they should have explored more into ||mel being able to straight up kill seemingly any immortal being for realsies and gods and such being scared of that power more ||

[tall spoke]

i mean, i am quite literally a follower of hellenismos, this is quite literally a game about my religion, and i think a LOT of the pantheon are awful

[crude dragon]

||Yeah, they could have had that be the implied reason you're not allowed into the palace in the post-game, that you're becoming sympathetic to the mortals' plights and can perma-kill Olympians||

But nah, Agent of Chang||ing nothing||

[stable flame]

Eh. I really don't think that was the message from the game itself, Athena sounded petty and unreasonable imo in her dialogue

Though like yeah Mel seemed to think Athena wasn't unreasonable or anything but idt Mel is like someone to just take at face value as being right because she's the protag

[calm mango]

Is there a way to steadily get Ambrosia in the endgame outside of ||the incantation? || Lots of stuff seem to need it.

[stable flame]

Also broker

[tall spoke]

don’t forget athena in hades 2 carries around a shield of medusa’s head.

i won’t go deeply into the myth of medusa… but iykyk

[crude dragon]

Broker sells 1/night at 450(?) each

[stable flame]

Didn't really think about that other than like that's a normal depiction of the aegis but true

[calm mango]

I'm scared to sell my fish incase I get an incantation for them

[crude dragon]

Could be one of the other gorgon sisters, seeing as Dusa is currently a janitor

[little frost]

yeah sgg's version of the mythos is generally a lot nicer and I think that's a good thing overall

for what the games are trying to do at least

[weary shore]

Mel being zeus’s kid would’ve been so sad

[jaunty copper]

The fountain never appears and i cant found raki. I have the incantation. Bad luck rght?

[little frost]

yeah that happened to me when first trying to get raki, took like 10 runs to see a fountain

[tall spoke]

keep trying! you’ll eventually come across raki in erebus!

[modest karma]

i did all the requirements for ||acceptance of another fate|| please don't tell me beating ||32 fear|| is required now also I really do not like doing these types of runs. do i just need the required resources for it to appear?

[dense yacht]

Isn't that whole "Medusa was a victim" thing a much later addition by some Roman dude?

[agile zinc]

Hey! Am i the only one that thinks the dash feels kind of clunky when there is a difference between holding A (im on gamepad) and tapping A?
I got heatrush right now and If i Hold Dash in the Dash animation (the one that gives me the IFrame) and then release just before the animation ends, i get a firepool.
Now if i just tap A once and release inside of the Dash animation i get the same amount of IFrames, the same Distance but i dont get a firepuddle under me.
I guess this is intended but it feels kind of... off to me? any takers? 😄

[tall spoke]

god. moon water is absolutely my fave selene hex

[crude dragon]

May I introduce you to the church of Wolf Howl?

[tall spoke]

yes

[crude dragon]

Wolf Howl: All the benefits of Dark Side, none of the damage loss

[tall spoke]

i haven’t used wolf howl enough and i should definitely try using it more

[weary shore]

I love wolf howl

[tall spoke]

i also really like lunar ray tbh

[crude dragon]

Not a fan

[weary shore]

I love night bloom too, kinda sucks on prom, dragon elite, and talos tho

[velvet igloo]

[crude dragon]

Wants you to get specific enemies rezzed, wants the upgrade that makes them last indefinitely, and wants Hera Godsent. You get all of those, it's cracked

[weary shore]

I had a run vs chronos yesterday where I kept summoning his little healing hourglasses and they saved me so many times

Yes that’s hilarious lol

[crude dragon]

Works wonders on the latter two if you have Vow of Shadows

[ivory slate]

I realized i have free will so i can choose to spread misinfo if i want
Unrelated but i just found out that Schelemeus is voice acted by Adam Sandler

[weary shore]

Oh good point, haven’t run that fear in a minute

[crude dragon]

Oh, so that's why he sounds familiar

[velvet igloo]

how man chaos trials do I need to do to gift him the last gift?

[crude dragon]

I don't think it does since ||Heracles|| just leaves, but you do get a unique voice line if you use the Godsent there

[tall spoke]

chaos uses they/them pronouns

[crude dragon]

Night Bloom's (Hera)

[ivory slate]

Whats the best weapon boon for ||Black Cloak||

[velvet igloo]

I don't care

[ivory slate]

Imagine being transphobic in one of the queerest games lmao

[weary shore]

Any history of post release dlc by super giant? I’ve only played hades 1 and 2

[ivory slate]

attac

[velvet igloo]

imagine being upset that I didn't respect a fictional character's pronouns

[ivory slate]

I dont really get how scorch works.. is it just dot?

[weary shore]

Aren’t they depicted as like 3 different people tho? They is like so appropriate on multiple levels

[ivory slate]

Boo! Did i scare you?

[dense yacht]

Basically. It's delayed damage that applies at a set rate.

[crude dragon]

Poseidon, I guess?

[ivory slate]

"Im not they because im nonbinary.. its they because im multiple people!!"

[velvet igloo]

more like entertained me, clown 🤡
funny how the colors match too

[weary shore]

Lol, i didn’t say that, if they’re a they, they’re a they

[crude dragon]

- Nahobino Shin Megami Tensei V

[ivory slate]

chat what are our thoughts on blitz

[runic plume]

Meh

[crude dragon]

Glad they finally added a non-huma-

Oh you meant the status effect

[runic plume]

I like it on cast

[crude dragon]

You can't get Blitz on cast

[weary shore]

I just imagine it’d be hard to identify as one gender if you were a full grown person, a floating fetus, and an skeleton of your old self at the same time

[velvet igloo]

I get that but why focus on that instead of helping me answereing my question, I'd rather be ignored

[runic plume]

Whatever Zeus's cast is is the only one I do

[ivory slate]

What if they took turns

[runic plume]

Maybe on the umbral flames

[weary shore]

Idk lol seems mind bendingly difficult

[crude dragon]

Blitz is a solid boon, scales well, and has good Tier 2s and Duos

[wispy wren]

Emmm.. Guys, do we have any statisctics which weapon people choose? etc. I'm just curious

[modest karma]

i think overall torches have been my favorite

[velvet igloo]

probably aspect of medea (maybe aspect of pan in early access when it was op)

[ivory slate]

i love big axe

[weary shore]

I was just sharing my thoughts on the the character design, i haven’t actually done a lot of chaos trials to know the answer to your original question, sorry

[velvet igloo]

it's cool no worries

[ivory slate]

idk iris maybe its bc youre being a bit of a bigot

[frank mulch]

im a little bit late to this but theres no space for disrespecting identities in this server. in general, be nice :)

[winged knoll]

Am I soft locked out of anything without the testaments board working?

[velvet igloo]

bro I'm getting attacked for calling chaos a he, so "disrespecting identities" is not okay, but disrespecting me directly is okay?

[supple nymph]

chaos is everything so you arent wrong

or something idk

[ivory slate]

Youre not getting attacked.
Youre getting called out for saying "I don't care" when you got told you were misgendering someone?

[frank mulch]

fiction reflects reality and the respect for this character's pronouns is also respect for the person who corrected you. please keep that in mind

[weary shore]

But that could be invalidating other people in the server who use the they/them pronouns, right?

[ivory slate]

Like if youre going to be transphobic to fictional characters i assume that your also transphobic to real people

[supple nymph]

I MISS EARLY ACCESS CHAT WHEN WE WOULD TALK ABOUT GAME MECHANICS🙏🙏

[velvet igloo]

say that to them lmao

[ivory slate]

Like.. if you have issues with the LGBT community...
Play a different game? Hades, but especially all games based on greek stuff, is going to be gay.

[pulsar frigate]

game is great, the community is 90% woke tho lmao

[velvet igloo]

look, you are high or something, I just asked a single question and you're going all out on it

[ivory slate]

Do you think this game isnt woke? 😭 In this game, and in the previous games, there are options for gay romance.

[tall spoke]

mods please shut this guy down

[ivory slate]

actually @pulsar frigate how do you define woke

[novel trench]

[pulsar frigate]

i literally said that the game is, not that it isn't lol

[velvet igloo]

fr lmao (don't bother answering these people, they're a bit crazy)

[novel trench]

[tall spoke]

respectfully please shut tf up

[frank mulch]

moving right along

[winged knoll]

wtf does modern politics haved to do with anything greek? they were all gay as hell

[tall spoke]

this is a mess

[winged geyser]

Oh my god hi! Sorry, recognising people from different discords is so funny

[modest karma]

the greeks invented sex and the romans invented sex with women

[pulsar frigate]

we're just talking tho, don't see anything disrespectful, to me at least idk

[frank mulch]

also, brush up on the rules, respect the people you talk to here and which includes their identites, and there is no need to feed the trolls or argue with people who are being disrespectful to you. just message @devout junco and we can respond to it

[ivory slate]

Youre telling me that a gay roman fried this rice?

[winged knoll]

You understand right, assuming you don't, but in the greek state, gay wasn't a bad thing. There was no "woke". Dudes were laying with dudes left and right. Women probably the same.

Soldiers laying with other soldiers was VERY common, considering they were gone for years at a time.

[weary shore]

Also a few instances of ace representation which is cool

[winged geyser]

Because if you do that to fictional characters and react like that when corrected you probably do that to real people

[pulsar frigate]

yeah they basically had sex with anything and anyone that's fine, but getting mad over someone "missgendering" a fictional character from a greek mythology is like

[tall spoke]

also do you actually realise where the terms “sapphic” and “lesbian” come from? SAPPHO OF LESBOS, A GREEK POET

[frank mulch]

this is true, and really amazing that same sex relationships are also not a bad thing, even nowadays! lets move on.

[tall spoke]

sorry my reply was bad timing AD

[ivory slate]

There is an issue with them in the game actually
Theres not enough
Let me romance the moon Supergiant >:((((

[thick bronze]

how to unlock aspects of the same weapon like in the first game?

i think im in the wrong discord

mfs be talking about sex in this chat

[native terrace]

Uhh, I entered the Charybdis right after ||Zagreus encounter|| and the charybdis' ai seems to have broken (after-ending spoilers)

[ivory slate]

You know what the greeks were famous for, right??

[frank mulch]

nope we are talking about unlocking aspects of the same weapon. like in the first game

[thick bronze]

and of course my question gets ignored but the sex one gets an answer instantly

[frank mulch]

stop instigating.

[ivory slate]

The greeks were famous for:
Art
Poetry
Blaming pregnancies on zeus

[winged knoll]

and being gay as hell

[tranquil wren]

try the #h2-for-new-players channel

[meager garden]

idk

[ivory slate]

"hey weird that ive been at sea for the past 12 months and you gave birth.. thats weird."
"Um. It was zeus"
"I knew that swan living near us was suspicious..."

[crude dragon]

If only the same question you posted in another channel got answered

[ivory slate]

TBH your question is easily googleable.
I dont mean that to be rude i just mean youd get an answer 5x faster by googling

[thick bronze]

for some reason it doesnt ping me or show the yellow text like in this chat

[crude dragon]

I turned off the ping

Also, AD, any chance we could get the slow mode in here reduced?

[frank mulch]

nope

[meager garden]

increase the slowmode

[frank mulch]

that i can do

[meager garden]

I can't take this blazingly fast speed

[jaunty arch]

but it's so fast already

[little frost]

based increase the slowmode

[crude dragon]

Yeah, but Google might turn up outdated info

[frank mulch]

yeah make your messages count because i will next see you in 6 hours

[tall spoke]

STAN HECATE

[meager garden]

time to write some essays

[rose canyon]

How do I use Anubis

[frank mulch]

anyway move on from this. class does anyone know how to unlock aspects of the same weapon like in the first game?

[meager garden]

nope

[jaunty arch]

omega attack then special

[tranquil wren]

just by playing the game

[little frost]

by playing the game more until the game lets you unlock them 🔥

[ivory slate]

You can set parameters in google to find info after a certain date.

[meager garden]

dash attack + cast, then spam special
hestia/poseidon attack, demeter/aphro/hestia cast
omega special shoots nukes, special is good to apply debuffs

[tranquil wren]

no one remembers because it's so early to unlock them

[potent prawn]

Me reading back this chat like https://media.tenor.com/7CqSWvgYOFwAAAPo/squidward-tentacles.mp4

[buoyant matrix]

@frank mulch when are we getting embeds again 🥺

[jaunty arch]

NEVER!!!

[ivory slate]

Lets discuss something important chat.
Which siren is the cutest.

[frank mulch]

there is no need to be rude to people who ask a gameplay question in this channel. this is what the channel is for

[limpid oar]

It's got to be Jetty right

[ivory slate]

Im not trying to be rude. Idk how to say it more nicely tho /srs
The advice im giving is genuine. Its easy to find this info on google and if youre worried about outdated stuff you can make google only show results after a certain date. Ive done that with some games that have huge run times of early access like 7d2d

[tranquil wren]

I mean I'm fairly sure Cezar is trolling with the questions

[frank mulch]

many people ask questions here instead of searching them up because it's both updated information and also a discussion, like the name of the channel

[potent prawn]

Stuffs also changed since initial early access release

[jaunty arch]

what's 7d2d

[limpid oar]

omg hi AD

[frank mulch]

its nicer to give people space to answer instead of turning them away

[ivory slate]

a zombie survival game thats infamous for its lengthy time in early access. I think it spent about 7 years in early access?

[uncut ferry]

Does Hades 2 have an equivalent to Hell Mode yet?

[frank mulch]

hi Coldshade hows it going

[jaunty arch]

wow, hence the 7?

[jaunty arch]

6 gazillion fear

[tall spoke]

anyway how is everyone?

[rapid plaza]

I think that's just eris making your early runs harder

[meager garden]

no and it never will

[limpid oar]

Pretty okay! Just died to the dawg

[uncut ferry]

aww

[ivory slate]

Im gonna be honest.
I dont like any weapon besides the axe.
And thats because the axe has spoiled me.
Being able to one shot bosses with that monster is terrifyingly evil

[jaunty arch]

what aspect do you prefer

[ivory slate]

The +50 dmg one

[jaunty arch]

oh, m'kay...

bit disappointed...

[uncut ferry]

I quite like that weapon (I did a 0 grasp 32 Fear run with it once) but I'm surprised that's the only one you like

[ivory slate]

why
I love big BONK

[jaunty arch]

cuz.. you have.. ||nergal|| funny tung tung tung tung

[meager garden]

there's a bigger bonk

[ivory slate]

im not sure if ive unlocked that one

[potent prawn]

Imo the worse weapon is the umbral flames

[jolly hound]

I feel similar. I also love the skulls but 3/4 of my runs are axe and skulls. You are seen

[jaunty arch]

the hell

[ivory slate]

should i try the skulls more? I tried them and didnt see the appeal

[frank mulch]

i love the axe as well but im really fond of the torches

[jolly hound]

I’m convinced the flames get really good once you’re really good, but until then, they’re mid. Someone tell me how to use it lol

[jaunty arch]

you put coat over flames?

[meager garden]

it's a grenade launcher

[uncut ferry]

yes, make sure to alternate attacks and specials
skulls are very versatile. personally I like em best with pumped up magic costs+hexes

you can even put Aphro on attack with Skull for bonking

[jolly hound]

I got room 1 clockets hammer and unexpectedly had a 1-0 record vs the big man after that attempt so that helps a lot lol

[frank mulch]

i just started the game so i gotta unlock everything again. sad but its fun starting over

[meager garden]

special has a magnet effect to reload

[jaunty arch]

fun!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wanton cypress]

Any idea when Hades 2 OST will come to Apple Music

[jaunty arch]

never

[ivory slate]

Im not gonna lie
Hephaestus boons SUCK

[jaunty arch]

I LOVE YOU!!!

[potent prawn]

Yeah I just don't like the way they play is all some aspects are alot better then others on it but I prefer other weapons

[main sapphire]

is it possible to gift wrong items to people?

[frank mulch]

no idea, if there is no information on that you can use this page to ask about it https://www.supergiantgames.com/contact/

[ivory slate]

And i love you, random citizen.

[jaunty arch]

I feel honored

[uncut ferry]

his offensive abilities require tons of set up but his utility is bonkers outta the box. all that armor...

[pallid cradle]

The Coat is right there

[winged geyser]

People are allowed to have bad opinions

[jaunty arch]

yes

[winged geyser]

(I'm biased, I've always love Heph)

[uncut ferry]

I wanna love the coat but all of its aspects are weirdly painful to use, aside from the boring Mel aspect

[winged geyser]

*loved

[ivory slate]

I thought id love the coat but i think its like a worse gauntlets

[jaunty arch]

yep

[frank mulch]

i love having bad opinions does anyone wanna hear some bad opinions of mine

[potent prawn]

Just rocket spam with cloak

[ivory slate]

go on, ad

[tall spoke]

sure

[uncut ferry]

I do think ||Shiva|| is pretty fun now, but I've also managed to tank a build mid run with it like 5 times

[jaunty arch]

yeah

[ivory slate]

NGL does anyone know who wrote charons lines?? Theyre so beautiful and poetic 😭

[frank mulch]

i like and enjoy playing gilgamesh fists in hades the 1st they are the best hidden aspect in the game and perhaps out of every aspect

[jaunty arch]

hrgrhh hggrrhrh is my favorite one

[pallid cradle]

Okay maybe we should take your account from you.

[jaunty arch]

that's not a bad opinion, I feel the same!

[uncut ferry]

yeah Gilgamesh was my first 32 Heat clear

[frank mulch]

just kidding there is no such thing as a bad opinion if people enjoy playing a weapon or with boons that you dont its okay :) you can simply stick to the weapons and boons you like

[buoyant matrix]

gilgamesh was my last 32

i did 32 heat with every single other aspect before i touched gilgamesh

[frank mulch]

i lied tho my favorite is hera bow and base fists are not that bad. i like the rapid pace of them in general

[pallid cradle]

My first 32 was either Eris or Rama

[uncut ferry]

I think the easiest 32 Heat clear is with the uh... Hestia Rail? the one that does one big shot. very very easy to use

but uhhh it took me a while to rebind reload Orz so I didn't see its potential

[pallid cradle]

The default reload bind is one of the most questionable button bindings I've ever seen in my life

[jaunty arch]

I like talos, 32 heat talos

[buoyant matrix]

"tactical multiplayer fps game" ahh binding

[frank mulch]

i use mmb for reload and hex

[crude dragon]

Apparently it's Hecate dialogue?

[pallid cradle]

What tactical FPS have you ever played where the right stick is the reload bind?

[uncut ferry]

yeah idg why buttons like interact get a whole shoulder button, when it's never an 'action' button yk? but reload is essential

[buoyant matrix]

ah i meant the keyboard, it's on R

[frank mulch]

i used to play nothing but talos, almost feels bad beating him up here LOL or good??

[plucky night]

super random question, but does anyone know if you can play hades two without wifi on steam? i’m going on a long trip tonight and want to know if it’s playable lol

[jaunty arch]

I like beating him up

[crude dragon]

It's offline

[polar abyss]

AD what is your “worst opinion”?

[maiden dagger]

Is there a better attack on moros flames than hera?

[frank mulch]

yep, but achievements will not come up until youre on wifi again

[bitter ivy]

5th time loosing to ||typhon|| 😔

[crude dragon]

Zeus so that you can go into Arc Flash

[jaunty arch]

you'll get that thing

[frank mulch]

i hate dishwashers

[crude dragon]

As in the job or the appliance

[jaunty arch]

like, the people that wash?

[buoyant matrix]

that's so tame. my "worst opinion" would probably get me banned from here

[frank mulch]

the appliance. i prefer to wash them, thanks

[maiden dagger]

But then you might as well go special

[bitter ivy]

i feel like i got close but i have no idea

[crude dragon]

Because any of the former will agree with you on the latter

[polar abyss]

What about “worst SGG game opinion?”

[jaunty arch]

huh.. now I'm curious, dms...

[crude dragon]

Nah, you put it on attack because that'll hit first and then the OSpecial instantly pops it (Arc Flash won't pop from an Omega that applies it)

[bitter ivy]

i had a fun run though with staff

[rapid plaza]

transistor it's the only one i haven't gotten all acheivements for

[frank mulch]

okay check this one out quite controversial ||i dont like thanatos at all and especially not his romance||

[polar abyss]

No, I meant worst opinion relating to their games

[jaunty arch]

I like his ||aspect||

[crude dragon]

Death

[buoyant matrix]

yes that's the guy

[dense yacht]

So you have not chosen Death. 💀

[frank mulch]

and please dont start fights here, its good that you know what is and isnt appropriate to say in a space youre in 👍

[jaunty arch]

I think thanatos got a big ||scythe||

[polar abyss]

I know… I just thought to ask cause you did ask if people wanted to hear them

[maiden dagger]

but I like fighting! It's fun and some aspects are really gud

[buoyant matrix]

ok hear me out. we should start a club...

[bitter ivy]

I got a lot of bad opinions i think

[frank mulch]

that was not aimed at you, just a general statement ! everyones good

[jaunty arch]

what's it gonna be called? Fight.. club?

[frank mulch]

do you want to know my favorite movie

[jaunty arch]

yes yes yes yes yes yes

[polar abyss]

I guess since my question was answered, I shall share my “bad opinion”. Name a topic ig, and I’ll think if I have one

[buoyant matrix]

food

[maiden dagger]

pinneaple sucks on pizza

[jaunty arch]

art

[frank mulch]

it is in fact fight club

[polar abyss]

I mean I did mean SGG content, but okay, sure…

[bitter ivy]

my favorite movie is howl's moving castle

[jaunty arch]

you have NEVER tasted good hawaiin pizza

[bitter ivy]

i dont like pinneaple

[maiden dagger]

I've also never tasted good pizza but that's infinitely better than pinneaple pizza

[frank mulch]

more for meeee

[bitter ivy]

nothing wrong with it being on pizza i just dont like it

[maiden dagger]

Hawaiian pizza is disgusting

[buoyant matrix]

never tasted good pizza? you're missing out homie

[frank mulch]

if we argue about food here the member count of the server may have to be cut in half

[jaunty arch]

my favorite movie is schindler's list OR superman 2025

[polar abyss]

Hmmm… Stuffed Crust Pizza is better than regular pizza. Idk if that’s a bad opinion though, but even if I’ll eat the crust, I hate it compared to the actual pizza.

[frank mulch]

i also really like gone girl

[jaunty arch]

Onions and garlic are the pinnacle of ingredients

[buoyant matrix]

hmmm interesting

[polar abyss]

But if you want something actually bad… I guess I don’t care for Ketchup?

[bitter ivy]

i do like garlic

[jaunty arch]

Blue cheese is actually good

[frank mulch]

i agree with you, it has immense amounts of sugar in it which i dont like. tomato sauce is fine on occasion

[jaunty arch]

Poutine is insane with foie gras

[bitter ivy]

my favorite food is a chicken sandwich i once made with spicy mayonaise

[polar abyss]

Yeah I think that maybe is a bit “weird” to the average person. I love Tomato Sauce. But I don’t want Ketchup

[pallid cradle]

Yea on controller it was right stick click

[jaunty arch]

cheese is part's of God's choir

[frank mulch]

i had grapes yesterday and i think they were the best thing i have ever eaten maybe

[rapid plaza]

love fois gras. you can taste the evil

[jaunty arch]

ughnnn foie gras...

[bitter ivy]

grapes are definetly up there with the best fruit

[frank mulch]

i like lychee and mango

[jaunty arch]

mango mango

[bitter ivy]

strawberries

[jaunty arch]

blue cheese, foie gras, baguette, grapes = perfect afternoon

[polar abyss]

This one’s a bit harder for me to think about personally. “AI Art isn’t art made by the ‘programmer’, and it feels soulless” is a controversial opinion in some circles (but not this one probably.

[rapid plaza]

kalamata olives

[jaunty arch]

hear me out: Olives with GARLIC in it

[bitter ivy]

ai art is definetly not art in my opinion

[jaunty arch]

like a whole garlic stuff in the olive

[frank mulch]

i didnt like garlic OR onions for for the longest time

[jaunty arch]

mushrooms are actually good

[frank mulch]

garlic tastes great now that ive warmed up to it. onions... still situational

[jaunty arch]

red onions are better than golden onions

[bitter ivy]

not if theyre baked

[jaunty arch]

I'm baked

[rapid plaza]

vadalias got me to love onions

[bitter ivy]

are you an onion?

[jaunty arch]

yeah

[frank mulch]

i feel kind of perplexed by mushrooms

[bitter ivy]

well damn

[polar abyss]

I guess my “bad art opinion” that would offend or upset the most people, is sometimes less is more. just because you have more pixels, that doesn’t mean it is better than some pixel art. And also I don’t care for just getting the highest resolution monitor possible. We’re fine now, and have been fine for art quality in gaming and movies

[jaunty arch]

FOREST MUSHROOMS ARE GOOD

[frank mulch]

i feel the same about eggplants. i do not feel compelled to ever eat them, even if theyre very delicious

low poly games are totally on the rise! i think "movie games" will age badly

[jaunty arch]

poly

[bitter ivy]

i hate sweet potato and dislike normal potato except fries

[quaint verge]

Lmao sun worshipper works on the sirens

[frank mulch]

they kind of already have

[polar abyss]

[real otter]

do i have to go out of my way to somehow find the fates or does that happen as part of the true ending?

[bitter ivy]

red onions go really well on sandwich and salads

[jaunty arch]

burger

[bitter ivy]

i agree but are burgers considered a sandwich

[shell widget]

Why would they not?

[jaunty arch]

huhhh

[polar abyss]

Oh, the cube rule of food. That could be a discussion

[bitter ivy]

yeah i also think they count as one

[jaunty arch]

I read this with his voice

[polar abyss]

Woah. Chronos is here…

[rapid plaza]

you have to do a bunch of stuff listed on the fated list. namely make friends with a bunch of people then find them in ||oceanous||

[bitter ivy]

if chronos himself said so it must be

[frank mulch]

anyhoo, we should move the everything-conversation to #off-topic-discussion

[rose canyon]

Why is there an update

[buoyant matrix]

bait?

[rose canyon]

I had a 2 mb update for some reason lmao

[buoyant matrix]

does it have a little "patch notes" button next to it

it may be the hotfix from three days ago

[gaunt slate]

rich soil hotfix 🤞

[marsh wyvern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/641696000821690388/1423735878509133936/image.png?ex=68e164dd&is=68e0135d&hm=0c28aa4cd6c3f9ad3862aa0c80de73c5df16044a21c870eef04ce73c9c07d682&

how do i get access to nightmares?

[gaunt slate]

unlock oaths probably?

[marsh wyvern]

27 cards and ive used like 6 already and they dont show up

[merry whale]

will i see zeus if i start a run rn

[marsh wyvern]

i already did that 15 nights ago

[rapid plaza]

oath of the unseen/chaos trials/ order from charon/buy from broker/ find them at final shop in area 4 sometimes

[marsh wyvern]

have spent like 9 nightmare alrdy

[polar abyss]

Oh so there’s a new hotfix

[merry whale]

yoo they fixed the eternal zeus bug

[devout cairn]

any chaos trials that give me access to dionysus im tired of gambling for him in normal runs

[rapid plaza]

there should be an olympus only run on one of the trials. don't remember which it is

[pseudo wing]

did they change chaos's trinket? i got the bonus gold effect three times in a row lol

[marsh wyvern]

ik but i cant order from charon

[jaunty arch]

rng...

[buoyant matrix]

no it's just weird rng

[devout cairn]

worth a try

[snow elk]

[pseudo wing]

i see, chaos truly chaotic, thx for answering lol

[marsh wyvern]

night 22 alrdy beaten chronos night 7 and typhon night 15 dunno why it doesnt appear when i alrdy have spent like 9 nightmare and got a total of 12 lifetime

[rapid plaza]

not sure what the unlock requirement is. might just be lifetime gold spent at his shop

[swift flare]

i still have not figured out how to use nightmare lol

around 25th clear

[rapid plaza]

mainly upgrading non mel aspects of weapons

[marsh wyvern]

30k should be enough

[lost wing]

Another patch come and gone... Another patch with no fix to Coat omega attack speed.

[marsh wyvern]

u will get an incantation once u || defeat Hecate with the first 5 weapons, so staff to skull||

[spark vessel]

My god this game is super optimized as hell

The game boots up in less than 5 sec , you can go from the menu into the game and out in mere seconds

It's almost like there is no loading at all

[marsh wyvern]

whats wrong there?

[swift flare]

AH right, i forgot to check upgrade weapon lol

[kind gull]

Has anyone found if theres an interaction between odysseus saying hes had his mind on the sirens songs and then you playing the sirens songs via the musician in the crossroads?

[lost wing]

#h2-feedback message

Stuff that's been bugged since Coat debuted a year ago + a new bug they created when they lowered the channel time for the omega attack for the non-Mel Coat Aspects.

[sharp spear]

Hate to echo this but I got to the ending and it really sucks?? :(( I really thought I was going to be mel and fight chronos with ||Gigaros|| like h1 or change to ||zagreus|| and have ||phase 3 with chronos|| but it falls so flat. I know they needed to do the whole keep doing runs thing like h1 but ||chronos whiplash makes me not want to play any more||. I can't even go back into ||zags room|| and that was one of my fav bits

[swift flare]

huh, so violence
Isn't it nice that ||you get to change grandpa to being nice and live as a whole family?||

[sharp spear]

well, no? because they repeatedly say that their family doesn't work like that and if you know anything about the greek gods is that they aren't exactly besties

[stoic osprey]

Anyone got tips on why someone with 30+ hours still can't trigger incantation for familiars?

[wary garnet]

guys tell me there isnt an achievement to have all keepsakes level 3 😂

[sharp spear]

also at the very least with h1, even after the ending, the characters are still true to themselves yk, it just feels so off and awkward and it's so surprising because it's so well done up until that point

[buoyant matrix]

there isn't

[swift flare]

Well, once you play tag with Mel, any evil villain will change

[wary garnet]

amen

[sharp spear]

touché

[swift flare]

call it bewitched or something

[pseudo wing]

first time using fig leaf, and apparently it works even after u take it off? nice, it makes it more useful

[jaunty arch]

for real?

[idle crater]

yea it does

[jaunty arch]

damn, crazy

[limpid oar]

it's confirmed now || that Scylla wrote Bewitching Eyes after I played tag with her in the rivals arena ||

[pseudo wing]

yeah, i took it in prom fight location and it didn't work, i changed to moro's pin in the next location and it worked there lol

[swift flare]

Also, in Hades 1, the whole theme is about mending a broken family, so ||this is doing the same thing. Though I will admit that this time it's less following real Greek myth.||

[pseudo wing]

the disco ball on top is so fun lol

[granite pelican]

so does any one actually like the ||shiva ||aspect of the coat, i feel like its game play loop is just so bad and that their isnt a good special to actually put on it, i try treating the omega special l||ike a three prock omega cast but the fact it has an arival time and and iss so slow between bounces it just feels so bad||. all its omega moves also cost so freaking much.

[jaunty arch]

I hate the coat

[vague urchin]

Only a fan of ||selene|| tbh. Definitely my favorite of the coats.

[pale path]

I'm doing a run with fully upgraded Judgement arcana where I also used Circe's Crystal Figurine keepsake in the first zone. I just defeated Cerberus and made it to the last zone and Death still isn't unlocked. I didn't think that was possible, I thought that this should unlock all available arcana cards. The only thing I can think of is that Crystal Figurine targeted 2 cards that Judgement already unlocked, didn't know it could work that way but it must be so. Wow that's unlucky.

[limpid oar]

get that Canadian some aspect of Nyx gaming

[granite pelican]

i have no problem with any other aspect of the coat just that one feels so bad and its the only one i have left to have to get the all aspects to the final boss prophecy.

[jaunty arch]

well now how do you know I'm Canadian

[sharp spear]

i feel like they could have had something like everyone ends up turning up at the end, ||you have mel who beats typhon so the olympians are all free and you beat chronos, he's down on his knees and the whole family turns up and goes it's releasing hades, persephone and zag or you die, and THEN maybe he starts redeeming himself but like not just falling flat on his face and being some weirdly loveable grandpa, almost all grandads i've know are at least a bit sarcastic||

[limpid oar]

idk I was guessing

[jaunty arch]

damn it

[granite pelican]

you dont like to were coatss your either midwestern or canadian its a 50 50 chance

[jaunty arch]

lmao

[limpid oar]

it's not like your discord username says thebestcanadian

[jaunty arch]

well you clicked

[naive torrent]

Aspect of pan is the most janky aspect to use in the game its probably not the worst but it feels so bad to use

[jaunty arch]

I like ||morrigan, nergal, anubis, ||

[rapid plaza]

yeah, I think you really need lightning lance/glowing ember or the hades cast in first biome to make it work

[granite pelican]

i like the aspect of pan i just wish it snapped on as well as Chiron's aspect from the first game

[crude minnow]

how hard is || R4 Chronus compared to R4 Typhon ||

[limpid oar]

Pan isn't gonna be the worst aspect as long as they keep Selene and Persephone in the game

[jaunty arch]

lmao

[devout cairn]

selene is amazing though

[jaunty arch]

I hate the coat

[limpid oar]

I'd rather play aspectless blades than either of these 2

[heavy glen]

there were some stories where ||zeus let chronos out and he ruled the isle of the blessed in elysium||. no comment from hades. XD

[granite pelican]

honestly i like Persephone but thats because it just rolls in the ranks, and selene is nice, it gives you a solid hex every time. the only aspect i dont like is ||shiva||

[devout cairn]

Selene is like regular ol' coat but you press right trigger occasionally to nuke enemies. I think I got one of my fastest runs with it

[jaunty arch]

I got 14 minutes with nergal:D

[heavy glen]

iapetus was another titan that was locked up for good, but we don't know a lot about him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapetus

[jaunty arch]

don't laugh at me

[heavy glen]

congrats!

[vague urchin]

Also not a ||Shiva|| fan, but I'll use Selene every single time. Love the hex on it.

[dusk dove]

any tips if you are using morrigan and some enemies are somehow giving multiple blue hearts to EVERYONE

[granite pelican]

i love nergal causse itss just always starting ith the chop effect of the hammer but now you also get to heal yourself

[shell gazelle]

|| is there anything more to do in history after beating the bad chronos after finishing the mission/credits?||

[limpid oar]

that attack does lots of hits you should be able to wear down the hearts if your build has got anything useful at all going for it

[rapid plaza]

||find the fates||

[dusk dove]

thanks since im still trying to figure out how to use morrigan effectively

[broken tusk]

I've done many runs with Toula, and on a few of them, Toula would mirror my spell cast, and for the duration of the circle, there would be a purple laser beam connecting Melinoe and Toula. What causes that effect, and can I get it for every run?

[limpid oar]

it's the aspect of circe on the staff

[broken tusk]

oh on the weapon, thanks

[limpid oar]

Yeah, and it works for every familiar so experiment with them to see which plays best with the double cast for you!

[fresh kelp]

I unlocked aspects for the first time ever, man reminded me of my first time with aspects in hades 1

[dull whale]

Yup that aspect. Your familiar copies your cast and your both binded by a line that I think does 10 dmg on contact

[dull whale]

And like Coldshade said, the placement of the second cast depends on your familiar. Some stick by you, others zip around. It's a fun aspect

[broken tusk]

I'll experiment with the various familiars for sure. Thanks!

[carmine moss]

Hi folks
I need a lil help

I finished the epilogue, and have only "Unfinished business" to complete here in the fated list
BUT, steam has an achievment that says "complete born to win"

how do I unlock make "born to win" appeaer in the fated list?

[jaunty arch]

apollo attack

[granite pelican]

ahh but aphro gets you to a point of being nuclear with enough poms into it.

[jaunty arch]

hmmm

[tall spoke]

GUYS I JUST FOUGHT SCYLLA AND I HEARD BEWITCHING EYES FOR THE FIRST TIME

[jaunty arch]

but apollo got that REAAACH

[tall spoke]

THE 80S POWER BALLAD

[dull whale]

And potentially some misses

[heavy glen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/1nx0h2m/i_dont_blame_her/

[jaunty arch]

ok..

[dull whale]

We love Apollo

[heavy glen]

congrats!

[tall spoke]

i think the fish lady is gay for melinoë

[jaunty arch]

||the statues are the greatest thing || spoilers

[dull whale]

No I mean like on top of reach, Apollo's daze can cause enemies to miss

[tall spoke]

bewitching eyes not being on spotify is a crime

[jaunty arch]

oh!!!!!!!!!!!

[dull whale]

Yeah haha you're good

[jaunty arch]

not even in the soundtrack?

[tall spoke]

no!

[sage patrol]

Morrigan is such a fun aspect i’m having a great time—

[jaunty arch]

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[granite pelican]

true but consider hitting for 3600 in one attack because 200% damage increase from aphro, and double critting with ares and artemis.

[jaunty arch]

omega attack + attack + special

[jaunty arch]

awooga

I am in my college class right now, very funny

[granite pelican]

my favorite game play loop before the full release was takin meli axe getting chop and then finnal combo hits twice and just seeing how fast i could kill every thing. i think my fastest was 12 minutes to typhon because i got a heroic boon out of aphro right at the start.

[jaunty arch]

wow

aphrodite is hot

[hallow vault]

Found Someone who called Hades 2 Overrated cause of DEI sweet Baby inc stuff 😭😭

[jaunty arch]

what is dei sweet baby inc

[hallow vault]

Antiwoke Gamers use that cause Hades 2 has black gods and Lesbians and Homosexuals

[jaunty arch]

it's greek myth and a modern take

what did they think

[hallow vault]

Idk

Idk why it started with Hades 2 when Hades Literally did the same

[jaunty arch]

and there's like, 1 black god

[hallow vault]

Nah more then that

Athena,Dionysius,Apollo,Hestia

[jaunty arch]

well Hestia's just burnt

but fair enough for the other ones

nevermind hestia's black

I thought she was BLACK BLACK

but she's obviously not black black

[tranquil wren]

stop digging the hole

[jaunty arch]

I..

Look, I obviously play with low luminosity so I obviously couldn't see very well

I'm not racist

I'm not

Anyways

[devout cairn]

huh

[iron sonnet]

hey so I just fought Polyphemus ||with the knuckle bones, I got the prophecy,|| but back at the ||crossroads Odysseus didn't say anything||. Did I miss a step or something

[royal fable]

You also need to visit Circe and Scilla, its in the Prophecy

[bronze bloom]

hey guys, is there alot of difference between the release game and from when it first launched early access? is it worth playing again? i never beat it but i got pretty far into act 2

[royal fable]

its like two completely different games

[devout cairn]

a lot more

[heavy glen]

the story is finished

[bronze bloom]

interesting gonna have to play it again then, without spoiling too much what stuff did they add/change

[royal fable]

dude, you missed like 12 patches 4 of which were major updates

and a full game release

[final token]

Guys how ||do the hell I save Arachne|| ?

[royal fable]

the game is finished there are no missing content now

if you liked the game in early access then you surely wont be dissapointed

[final token]

Help me guys

[royal fable]

wdym by that, her Prophecy?

[final token]

Yeah

Athena and her don't want to give me anything

[royal fable]

speak more

[stuck lagoon]

where can I unlock athena

[final token]

Bruh to who between the two of her ?

[devout cairn]

olympus

[royal fable]

both I think

[final token]

Bruh

[royal fable]

its hard to tell

[final token]

but i spoke to them like 15 times

[royal fable]

I had 100% content before release so I dont remember really

[final token]

meh

[royal fable]

you can share screenshot maybe to me in dm?

[hallow vault]

Chaos only helping cause they are bored in both Games is funny lol

And kinda cause Chronos took their kids Hades 2

In Hades they are bored and enjoy the Family Drama Story

[stuck lagoon]

aside from these gods + athena and ares who else am I missing

[royal fable]

bored so much it changed appearance

[jaunty arch]

I feel like you speak french

[royal fable]

just play the game, its almost impossible to miss content unlike hollow knight for example

[hybrid flicker]

is Hades 2 DRM free on steam?
Hades 1 was, but im seing some people say its different for 2.

[royal fable]

there are some prophecies that require specific scenarios but eventually you will see all content

[dry pecan]

is there a known bug of total eclipse hitting yourself? Is this supposed to happen

[fiery herald]

so i got the black coat, this weapon feels weird like it doesnt exactly belong here man...

[jaunty arch]

it's extra bad

[fiery herald]

whats the point just spam basic attacks and try to weave specials even tho it sometimes just misses?

[royal fable]

so does adamant rail in hades 1

[jaunty arch]

but that was fun to use

[stuck lagoon]

either A. you're fighting Hecate or B. this is one of the most stupidest bug I've seen or heard so far imagine wanting to fully charge total eclipse to knock a whole wave of armored enemies only to eliminate yourself in the process who are you Hidan from Naruto?

[fiery herald]

no the adamant rail is just a gun that was super fun to use, especially the hestia gun, probably my favorite weapon of that game

this just feels akward

[dry pecan]

I was having difficulties getting it to go off since everything seems to interrupt it

[jaunty arch]

lol

[royal fable]

do you have icarus hazard boom?

[dry pecan]

I thought it might cancel if you move too far away from it

I don't think I've even met icarus yet

[royal fable]

oh

[fiery herald]

also on top of the black coat being weird, theres that one black coat that starts with a weird hex and i just dont get it

[jaunty arch]

selene's fun, but the coat is so ass I just don't use it

[royal fable]

its just hex

[honest hill]

quick Question: I reached credits now and never saw a family dispute, the kind of room where you have to choose between two gods. I thought they just werent in the game but saw them in a stream. Do i need to unlock them?

[jaunty arch]

lance of ares

[stuck lagoon]

btw guys umm does the same thing apply from H1 to H2 hammer over any boon even selene

[royal fable]

selene aspect just means ares every run

[jaunty arch]

huh?

[fiery herald]

Also what about that third black coat that just steals your mana for what seems a meaningless buff

[royal fable]

game will always try to force you to have at least 2 hammers

[jaunty arch]

300 damage rush level 1

[fiery herald]

how do you deal with that? what happens if you dont wanna spend mana? it just seems to take it

[royal fable]

you can completely avoid them but they will continue to appear

[limpid oar]

Nyx is amazing stop with the shade throwing 😔

[jaunty arch]

Nyx's hot

[idle crater]

stop sprinting and running into things then

[royal fable]

if you dont wanna spend mana then why are you taking aspect that literally says "I have special hex"

[jaunty arch]

means nyx

[royal fable]

ah my bad

[cold wasp]

is it normal to not have gotten a single non-common fish after being solidly into the midgame? im probably at 60-70 runs

[fiery herald]

no not that

[bronze bloom]

is controller reccomended or can i get full experience on mouse keyboard?

[idle crater]

either works

[royal fable]

I have 400+ hours on mouse keyboard

[bronze bloom]

what does the team reccomend tho

[limpid oar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8EbzKUJ6bk if you wanna see an easy Nyx build take a look here

[jaunty arch]

don't know but I feel WAYYY more comfortable using controller

[royal fable]

controls feel good on both controller and keyboard, just take what you are more comfortable with

[unreal hare]

Both work but I prefer controller myself

[dry pecan]

does the champions allow you to reroll hammers of daedalus?

[royal fable]

nothing allows you to reroll hammers

[jolly hound]

use whatever you used for hades one; failing that use what you use more. I love my controller back paddles

[maiden dagger]

Ok I thought that rivals 4 UW was ridiculous but I'm glad I'm not the only one

[dry pecan]

Towards the end I feel like I just died of natural causes or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05L63nk48-o

[maiden dagger]

Just saw someone at 600 health go down to 40 by the end of the fight

[gloomy heart]

am i tripping or did chaos kill itself between games

[late steeple]

@bronze bloom use a side button in the mouse for special attacks and its great

[royal fable]

oh actually good point, I completely forgot i rebind cast to M5

[maiden dagger]

Is VoR 4 UW even beaten no-hit?

[jolly hound]

Inevitably

[untold berry]

I'm playing after the 1.0 update and I swear it didn’t have the dialogue about him having a fiance before. I know it’s not a dating game, but still, the sad guy in the corner is my favorite
we will se this 'fiance'? :(

[royal fable]

rivals?

[maiden dagger]

yeah

[jolly hound]

extreme measures from hades 1 it’s called vow of rivals here (i basically mix and match words from both games tho…)

[royal fable]

I read that just as Vow

[maiden dagger]

no it was vow, I edited it

[jolly hound]

you’re good homie it is referring to the end boss being way harder you aren’t missing anything secret

[royal fable]

I guess without frenzy 2 it should be fairly easy

with lovers and snow queen

[jolly hound]

It’ll be easier, but that doesn’t mean easy

[cosmic swift]

Do relationships with the gods offer anything (Like rarity chance for boons) or nah

[royal fable]

it depends what do you define as no hit

[maiden dagger]

just no hit on the boss itself

[royal fable]

no damage or literally no hit

[ocean bough]

how do you get the wretched broker to offer nightmare?

[maiden dagger]

No hit, self-damage and stuff like that is fine

[royal fable]

no its just for dialogs

[cosmic swift]

Alr thx

[maiden dagger]

But I don't think VoR 4 UW no-hit is doable

[royal fable]

and if u give every good at least 1 nectar you will be able to see their boons in the book

[maiden dagger]

The only run I've saw where they didn't lose 200 health over the fight was a run with tough gain

[dry pecan]

can anybody help me figure out how I died here

[royal fable]

its also depends on how much dmg you have

[royal fable]

honestly I have no idea, I have never seen this in my 400 gameplay

[maiden dagger]

I'm doing 1000+ DPS

[dry pecan]

I've also instantly died at some point by dashing into cerberus, though I didn't have screen recording back then

dying to that is actually what made me turn on screen recording lol

[royal fable]

I mean after VoR came out im playing 34 fear constantly
Time 3, menace 2, shadow, fangs 2, frenzy 2, VoR 4

and I can sometimes die to Chronos because this fight is insane

melee builds are insanely hard to play vs chronos

[maiden dagger]

Yeah VoR 4 Chronos is just waaaaaaay overboard

[royal fable]

but some build that can stay at distance can just kill chronos no hit

[maiden dagger]

Which is weird cuz VoR 4 Typhon is totally fine

[royal fable]

like cast builds with hades howling soul feels like walk in the park

[royal fable]

I guess the issue is that u cant really oneshot Chronos

in first phase he has like immunity every ~20% of missing hp

second phase is fairly easy because he has i-frames only at 50% health

[maiden dagger]

That's not much of a problem, I've beaten Typhon with terrible builds before

[final token]

Comment t'a deviné baguette ?

[maiden dagger]

The issue is actually managing to dodge the craziness of that fight

[royal fable]

which is not really an issue if your build is not melee

if u can keep distance chronos cant do anything basically

[maiden dagger]

But then you can't do damage with most things

[royal fable]

thats why im explicitly saying "not melee build"

[maiden dagger]

What's the threshold of not melee, cuz i'm using moros flames

[royal fable]

moros for me is melee

u have to be up close to actually deal damage with explosions

[waxen lake]

I'VE FINALLY GET THE ARACHNE'S ACHIEVEMENT

AHHHG THE ONLY ACHIEVEMENT I NEED IS THE ODYSSEUS ONE, I HATE HIM AHHG

[royal fable]

range builds are like coat specials, any cast build with lance/fireball/howling soul (preferably), staff Omega attack/special, axe omega specials, skull attack

[deft pond]

Sooooo yeah. Almost every outlet giving this a 10/10 almost certain makes this a very close contender for game of the year. And after playing it, heh, boy was I wrong in calling this just another small indie rogue likes to throw into the pile of all the other cheap indie rogue likes

[gleaming parrot]

Did you not play or hear of Hades 1?

[tall meteor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-9zvrQSHbg

[sacred meteor]

am i just not understanding how to use her or does hera suck
i have found zero reason to take her instead of something like hephaestus

[gleaming parrot]

Hitch is great. It melts rooms, just not super useful on solo bosses

[royal fable]

Hera is like one of the best Gods in the game

[polar abyss]

Hera’s main use is Hitch, which is a fantastic status (AoE clears)

Also, Hera has rarity boons (Bridal Glow and Proper Upbringing), which is also really good

[royal fable]

basically utility God

[gleaming parrot]

Born Gain is one of the best Magick in game save for a few edge cases where you can effectively run out early into a run

[sacred meteor]

hm

[gleaming parrot]

Maybe your current build or weapon are skewing things

[late steeple]

You do know the first game got a lot of Goty awards, right?

[limpid oar]

idk I find Moros range fairly generous rn

[waxen lake]

Who I need to talk first to get the prophecy any Odysseus(?

[royal fable]

not for chronos

[deft pond]

Nope.

[sacred meteor]

i play anubis staff 99% of the time

[polar abyss]

Then Hera can be used for Special or Sprint

And Bridal Glow could hit something like Zeus / Hestia Attack, or Cardio Gain

[waxen lake]

How people can play with Anubis staff 😭 for my gameplay it's so uncomfortable, I prefer Momo's stuff

[sacred meteor]

i find the spacing very fun

[crude dragon]

Dash-strike

[sacred meteor]

i like moros too but it doesnt hit the same as anubis

[waxen lake]

I'm the boring problem 💔

[tribal yew]

How many hearts do people have? I have Dora on 10 and it looks like it's still nowhere close

[sacred meteor]

max hearts are different for each character

[waxen lake]

I NEED ODYSSEUS HEART TO BAD, I HATE HIM AND HIS PROPHECY AHHHG

[solid coyote]

has anyone here been able to get the get to the final confrontation wearing arachne's armor achievement? that seems impossible to do 💀

[waxen lake]

I don't recall if he gives me that one dialogue

[waxen lake]

Heh~ of course I did, my first achievement. I'LL TELL U HOW

First take Hephaestus keepseye, go for the boom who gives u armor, then find Arachne and pick the best armor

After defeat Hecate, change to Arachne keepseye, AND KEEP FARMING

I recommend you to use the Coat for more safety

[crude dragon]

Your big hurdle is going to be getting it through Hecate, since afterwards you can grab Heph or Arachne keepsake

[waxen lake]

Also u can buy some armor at Charon

[crude dragon]

Assuming he's cooperative

[waxen lake]

I ended with +300 w armor

[solid coyote]

Oh I forgot about that keepsake. Yeah that makes it a little more doable

[solid coyote]

Jesus

[devout cairn]

Must be nice having Circe appear to GIVE YOU THE STAFF AAAAAAA

[waxen lake]

Is it "keepsake"? Holy sh I was writing so bad

My bad, but yea, that was my strategy

Black Coat carried me

[solid coyote]

Yeah lol

[waxen lake]

Srry abt that

i dOnT sPeaK eNgliSH

[maiden dagger]

Okay I'm back

[maiden dagger]

I'm trying to do f32 UW because it's also my last nightmare testament for the flames, but I just don't think it's doable with VoR4

[waxen lake]

Hallo, can u help me w that one Odysseus achievement 🥹?

[royal fable]

playing 34 fear every time with this vows because in my opinion it's the most difficulty while still keeping fun

like denial or onion are not fun vows

and scaling enemy dmg/health is not fun either

[maiden dagger]

No clue what it is

[buoyant matrix]

denial isn't fun?

[royal fable]

ofc not

[buoyant matrix]

onion and enemy numbers i understand but denial?

[maiden dagger]

-1 boon and having to start with a boonless weapon is cringe

[waxen lake]

For making him full heart

[maiden dagger]

Actually I'm mistaking it for the onion one

[royal fable]

try to get fun build with denial bro

when you are erasing boons you need for duo/legendary

[maiden dagger]

Denial is...meh. Sometimes it can help a lot with trimming the pool, other times it forces you to lose a chance at the legendary

[buoyant matrix]

i have, regularly

[maiden dagger]

Denial is free fear either way

[buoyant matrix]

it's not as bad as you think

[royal fable]

when denial was making legendaries appear because pool is empty it was at least understandable

[royal fable]

my most fun builds are always with hermer travel deal

[limpid oar]

denial is that vow that I find free whenever I do fear push but would never click in a for-fun run because I wanna experiment with boons without worrying about denial clearing out my selection

[bitter verge]

Does anyone know how to unlock more plots for planting?

[royal fable]

im getting 30+ boons per run

with denial my pool would be empty after 10 boons

[bitter verge]

Im on night 33, ive cleared below and above, but i still only have two plots. in EA i swear it was easier to get more. is there a story plot im missing?

[ebon tulip]

I choose to delude myself into believing the developers of Hades love another game by the name of [Satisfactory] and every time a character uses that line, its in tribute to that game. 😅

[rough horizon]

Other than the arcana cardbacks, is there any decoration needing Witch's Delight (familiar treats)?

[crude dragon]

Well, what other characters from the Odyssey are in this game?

[royal fable]

Odysseus prophecy?

[crude dragon]

Yeah, trying to nudge them towards the right answer

[waxen lake]

The siren, Circe, the one eyed guy

[crude dragon]

They have unique dialogue for bringing the Knuckle Bones to them

[waxen lake]

I max my friendship w Circe

[royal fable]

its literally said in the prophecies list no?

[waxen lake]

Odysseus keepsake?

[crude dragon]

Yep

[waxen lake]

Ahgggg, WHAT A PAAAIINNNN

[royal fable]

But I just checked its literally written in the prophecy list what you have to do

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420836540760195072/1423777427041292449/image.png?ex=68e18b8f&is=68e03a0f&hm=dbd1fc6953dd0bf6f37a761d19ea453d2ce7515d313cf4efd7b979d4cd2a04b9&||

[ivory slate]

Does old herbal remedy (any healing effects are stronger this night) stack with the hex healing thing?
And does growing in size increase my hitbox?

[royal fable]

ofc it does

[vale lava]

would someone here mind explaining what "sprouted" means exactly? When I look it up online seems to mean something very different from an older version of the game which I didn't play so it's confusing

[rough horizon]

Damn, Night Bloomed Charybdis against Scylla, but she sadly doesn't pop the achievement

[broken glen]

Basically, whenever you deal damage with olympian effects (e.g scorch, Poseidon splashes, blitz- but NOT things like the % bonuses to the attack/special from the Olympians) sprouted gains charge. The more charge you have, the longer your omega special lasts. After you use your omega special, all charge in the sprouted meter depletes.

[vale lava]

gotcha, thanks. Is the meter on screen somewhere? Feel like I'm missing it

[broken glen]

It’s a bit confusing

[fair void]

would be nice if both surface and underground had something like fear loadout

[broken glen]

It’s to the right of your health bar- a little circle

[vale lava]

oh ok I'll look for that next time thanks

so something like zeus or hestia attack is preferable then?

[fair void]

tried 8 fear on underground and surface and it did not feel the same and changing it each run is annoying

[broken glen]

Yep! Anything that provides an Olympian effect!

[rough horizon]

Heph blasts when pommed are, well, a blast

[broken glen]

(The charge scales with how much damage the effects deal)

[ivory slate]

strife makes me SO mad

[jaunty arch]

eris?

[ivory slate]

yeah.
Where is she even getting so many disposable single use plastics???

[broken glen]

Charon

[jaunty arch]

just exchange them for kudos duuuh

[vale lava]

ok how many times have you used that one in here before

[jaunty arch]

if it works it works

[fair void]

how did charon get plastic in the first place

[jaunty arch]

humanity...

do you guys think climate change is just actually the greek gods having another fit and we'll have a third hades game based on this

[fair void]

yeah but i dont think they figured it out by then

[jaunty arch]

time travel!!!

[fair void]

erm i guess thats a possibility

[broken glen]

I mean… it’s not necessarily plastic. It’s a wrapping that looks like plastic, but no one ever says plastic

[rough horizon]

1st time (so far)

[calm spindle]

Whats the best weapon for hephaestus

[fair void]

that is true

[jaunty arch]

like fully pommed out?

[calm spindle]

Idk man im new and i like using hephaestus

[jaunty arch]

oh huhh

I mean I like using aspects you don't have, but I'd say the axe is pretty great?

[ivory slate]

Athenas new design made her ugly.

[cunning wolf]

||how do i complete the aspects of momus atremis eos charon medea||

[calm spindle]

Rip

[jaunty arch]

duuuude what

she's hot as hell

[devout cairn]

if you want heph as your main source of damage probably axe? But I'd still prefer Aphro or Apollo on that.

[calm spindle]

Hmm alr

[jaunty arch]

my thoughts

[ivory slate]

you mean the big helmet that shows NOTHING but her lips??

[calm spindle]

Cuz so far ive been doing hephaestus on the dash and special with sister blades

[jaunty arch]

You mean the big god woman that makes me FERAL

[devout cairn]

it isn't bad though, I had a really fun run on axe yesterday with heph on my attack

fully upgraded with heph dash too, prometheus exploded

[jaunty arch]

I hate that guy

[devout cairn]

prometheus haters

[calm spindle]

Who even is that 😭

[jaunty arch]

but he's hot

[devout cairn]

it's good you don't know greek mythology otherwise this would've been a big spoiler

[fair void]

some guy who stole the gas stove

[jaunty arch]

and my heart

[calm spindle]

Oop

[fair void]

he do be looking cool

[jaunty arch]

except his model is ass

[swift flare]

Well, you have to re-write the story from scratch

[fair void]

gotta get a good look on him, forgot it already

[jaunty arch]

people who say ||Mel should've killed Chronos are dumb|| heavyyy spoiiler

[fair void]

why did i click

[jaunty arch]

oh my go

I'm sory

I'mjm so roryy

[fair void]

||its fine, i never expected him to die anyway. way too cruel of a fate for mortals and good guys dont do that ||

[buoyant matrix]

it's the spoiler channel and you even marked it, it's totally their fault lol

[devout cairn]

oooo prometheus || as the main villain with god's treatment of humans not just being a side story || would've been cool, although "Death to Prometheus" doesn't sound as catchy

[fair void]

its fine, my fault for being in this channel

[jaunty arch]

I didn't say heavy spoiler ebfore!!!

[fair void]

mhm

[jaunty arch]

Death to Prom'

Death to Poms!!!!

[heavy glen]

lol not the pomegranates

[jaunty arch]

I wonder what they taste like

Pomegranate's so divine you gain a powerup

[fair void]

i thought you never had a pomegranate for a second 😭

[obtuse hatch]

Idk if im just bad but charon on 32 fear is so difficult

[jaunty arch]

well I've had like, one time

[unique onyx]

So is it possible to get used to frenzy 2 lol

I was told that if you are just a god gamer frenzy is free fear bc you can just get used to it and then it feels free

[obtuse hatch]

Ive only touched frenzy 1 and aside from projectiles it isnt too hard

[unique onyx]

I’m trying to train myself by just perma leaving it on but struggling way too much

Especially with some of the rivals fights

[obtuse hatch]

Me with vow of time

Im struggling sm dawg 😭😭😭

[unique onyx]

(Scylla, Hecate, Eris I can’t consistently beat)

[unique onyx]

Except on Medea skull but that’s just OP

Eris I feel close to being able to beat I can dodge her like 90% of the time but when she hits on rivals it does 30 dmg every hit

[rough horizon]

I perma leave frenzy 1, but 2 is a bit much for my liking. Not like I'm going to ever run 40-50 fear or the like, so it's good enough for me.

[sharp cosmos]

If bridal's glow sacrified for the Zeus / Hera duo, do you lose the Heroic quality and extra levels ?

[obtuse hatch]

I feel so dumb bc I cant even win a run with medea I always run into projectiles

[unique onyx]

Feels like you almost have to nohit the fight and she’s dashing too much to actually stay behind her

[polar abyss]

I assume the answer is No, because you keep the quality and levels if you sell it.

[unique onyx]

I do this too but just take death defiances + hephestus and you can just facetank

[polar abyss]

Also, Bridal Glow is only lost if you take King’s Ransom.

[unique onyx]

If you get to typhoon with DD left you can legit just dmg race him and not dodge any of his chin slams lol

[sharp cosmos]

Yep, that's the plan

[unique onyx]

It’s so stupid how much dmg it does

[obtuse hatch]

Which heph boons?

[unique onyx]

security system and the other armor ones

Heph = goat defense god, his offense boons are meme build bait imo

[devout cairn]

People who said Rivals Eris is easier lied to me, some of these mob spawns can be so gnarly, also getting hit by the laser is so much worse than getting hit by the normal bullets, and you can even take cover. She's not hard but still

[polar abyss]

IMO, they are not. You just either need to build into them, or put them on a boon that you won’t use naturally.

[rough horizon]

Yah, I don't think I know the Typhon fight well because I usually reach him with a really strong build and just dps race him during the last phase

[unique onyx]

Especially with Menace on, if she spawns the Olympian guys I wanna kms

[obtuse hatch]

Ive actually never run a medea build before what offense god am I looking for

[unique onyx]

Even best case scenario I feel like 1-3k dmg every 1.5 seconds is similar to other builds dps, and it’s more in chunks vs consistent, and it’s harder to get consistently

[obtuse hatch]

Ngl I still find rivals Eris easier but it depends on the weapon and aspect

[rough horizon]

Zeus special

[polar abyss]

On Patch 11, where Pan was considered one of the worst aspects to many, I used Hephaestus blasts to clear 56 Fear UW.

[unique onyx]

Dmg in chunks is bad bc of overkilling mobs or losing dmg when you put boss in phase

[unique onyx]

Try Demeter attack if you struggle with the defense aspect of Medea

[obtuse hatch]

I still dont see how pan is bad im ngl

[unique onyx]

If you get the freeze extension boon you will never take any mob dmg as long as you’re juggling freeze correctly

[ivory slate]

Could i get some advice for defeating ||typhon|| its my 2nd time with him and its unbearably hard

[polar abyss]

Pan was considered bad because Mel, Artemis, and Morrigan had far more useful effects, when Poseidon Waves didn’t work well on it,

[unique onyx]

Using your many dashes to keep all enemies perma frozen

[devout cairn]

if I cant instantly take down the robots armor I'm gonna get hit, screw those guys

[unique onyx]

They’re the worst

[obtuse hatch]

Stay near his chin and be ready to dodge the slam thats really it

[unique onyx]

They do so much dmg too with 0 pain on even. Like wtf it’s doing 14 per shot…

[polar abyss]

You want to do movements back and forth. Forward to dodge lasers and eyeball drops, backward for the chin / head slams.

[unique onyx]

And it’s so hard to dodge too once it hits you once so you take like 50 dmg it’s absurd

[obtuse hatch]

His stupid Laser whiffs if youre near his chin so I hug him

[ivory slate]

I HATE HIM
I HATE HIM SO MUCH I HATE HIM

[unique onyx]

Back about Medea, blitz build is obviously best, but the aspect itself just boonless has so much dmg you don’t really need it to win a run

[obtuse hatch]

Honestly prometheus is harder than chronos and typhon for me

[ivory slate]

Whose attack does more dmg
Apollo or afwodite

[unique onyx]

Yes but you have to be rlly good at timing the chin slams then

[hearty fog]

He's the hardest boss in the game, full stop.

[rough horizon]

aphro

[unique onyx]

But that’s a good strategy if you are

[devout cairn]

they gave these a-holes literally everything. AOE, they can snipe you, I swear they are the only enemies in the game who can shrug off hits without armor. That should be illegal fr fr

[obtuse hatch]

I personally find it easier to dodge the slams than the laser

[ivory slate]

By what %?

[polar abyss]

Aphrodite deals the most damage, provided you are up close. Apollo deals the second most damage of the Olympians, but always does it, and has an AoE boost

[unique onyx]

It’s a bit easier but does more dmg