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Huh
Apollonius writes that she (just like every other descendant of Helios) had flashing golden eyes that shot out rays of light, with the author of Argonautica Orphica noting that she had hair like fiery rays.
In game she has bright golden eyes and sharp red hair so it definitely looks like she's descended from Helios. I don't remember if she directly says it
full ost album on streaming when.... need it in my bloodstream
You can see it at the shrine when picking how much fear you'll do at the top, who and with what weapon
In any case, I kind of have the suspension of disbelief on a level that I'll accept anyone with some amount of divinity has a loose human form with some creative liberty thrown in like a tail
Okay, ||Where is this scroll supposed to be? I've been to every shop in Erebus here...||
Sorry we're figuring it out a bit still too. Maybe talk to others including parents more first?
took the knuckle bones to Polyphemus, still didnt unlock Odysseus gift options. and theres not a new prophecy so idk what to do next
He has other people he has had past with
that doesnt tell me anything
Circe isn’t just a descendant of Helios. She is his daughter. So she is less demigoddess and more straight up demititan
What are some other characters in the Odyssey that happen to be in this game?
||take the knuckbones to scylla maybe circi. If you've not read the Odyssey it's great||
still cant believe i beat typhon finally
Nobody is in this game.
Indeed
Lol yes
Feels so good
wdym maybe? is it both or one of them? why do I have to answer a riddle to figure this out? just tell me what I need to do ffs
For me it didn't unlock the gifting options the next night, but the night after that.
I think just scylla worked for me, but this isn't exactly a science, it's tough to figure out the triggers
theres actually 4 characters and one honorable mention in this game from the odyssey. ||Scylla, Charybdis, Polythemus, Circe, and 'Nobody'||
It is odd one sea monster can talk and the other can't
i might be wrong on one of those but like, my most up to date odyssey knowledge is Epic: the Musical
||Man, imagine if Charybdis had an interaction for seeing the Knuckle Bones||
I wish they had added Calypso as well. Imagine going through the encounter door in the rift expecting Circe and you end up at Calypso’s 💔
Technically a bunch of the gods are in the Odyssey too
TBF, one of them used to be a Nereid prior to Circe cursing her
The gods are mostly present in the Iliad. They appear in the Odyssey too but not as much
Dear Mel's friends (Artemis, Icarus): Please stop showing up. It just makes more enemies show up.
Mostly Poseidon and Athena, IIRC
I mean actual mythology tho, he basically just sails by them after being tied to the mast in a couple pages and that's it
But timer pause...
Those two sharing a screenplay never ends well for people around them
Literally. Nothing infuriates me more than running high nightmare, being at the last enemy and this annoying ahhh shows up
I think Hermes too? My fav
I'm pretty sure that Scylla being a nymph that Circe cursed over them both competing for the same lover is from the myths
Also, Toula should get bonus damage against King Vermin.
That'd be funny as hell
Oh I know no more updates but imagine if hecate could turn Mel into the king vermin on accident, at like a 1% chance and you get a huge buff in that form
This is stated in Ovid and other later sources. Homer didn’t give her a backstory, and she was mostly just always a sea monster
Greek playwrights continually rewrote basically anything tangential to the Odyssey, there's a lot of different versions. Supergiant uses a lot of Roman interpretations as well
OK that makes sense
It'd be hilarious if as an Easter egg it was just "King Vermin shows up, roars... Toula eats King Vermin."
guys how do i do the filter thing so i dont spoil stuff ?
||Like this||
With Greek myth, there is no such thing as a true myth and a false one. There’s so many sources, and all the myths are basically a product of the times and not a representation of the actual deities
No spaces
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||WHY IS ZAGREUS SO HARD TO BEAT||
Lmao. It's fitting isn't it?
||Because he's essentially the dad fight from Hades 1 in Hades 2||
Most of the popularized versions of what we think of as Greek myth are actually Roman retellings. Like how we mentioned Ovid earlier, he was a Roman poet, and stories like Arachne being turned into a spider is specifically from Metamorphosis by Ovid
||i guess youre not supposed to fight him in erebus ? i just killed him after 3 tries by spamming anubis and letting him chase me||
Why is he so damn hard to find?
I will never forgive Super giant for ||hyping me up and not letting me actually use Gigaros at the end 💔||
roguelike stuff
||ya shameless spam ranged and run seems to be the way to go. His scroll keeps spawning in first shop for me||
Real, I swear if I see someone else talking about the Medusa Roman myth and hating on Athena I will crash out
It's like the Charon fight in the first game, you're ideally fighting him once you have a build put together, though you can always try and rip it off the bat
||same xd, and i have like 70 hp and every hit deals 30||
i didnt struggle with charon at all
its telegraphed af
Am I crazy or spoilers for secret fight ||does Zagreus' sweep attack completely ignore blocking via fists||
never tried it, im a fist hater (i want block on charon back)
Looking at old screenshots of Hades 2. Its funny to see them now.
We used to have tools to increase likelihood of certain things to appear and it used to be that you'd always pick shovel because of Demeter's boon.
I've done all of these yet I cannot see the incantation, have the requirements changed since 1.0?
Now take hecuba for that
Actually that is spoilery, nvm
you dont even need to collect anything anymore
Yes but it's not an issue anymore kind of. Back in the ancient days when Demeter used to give health increase lol.
I also noticed placeholder texts and a lot of UI changes
Well I won with 6HP and did manage to block once or twice, but the hitbox is seriously a bit wonky and particular to being angled at least when you're directly in front of them
tbh i just kept completing stuff until i eventually unlocked it
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Are these still the requirements for unlocking "Acceptance of Another Fate" ? I've done all of these and haven't unlocked it yet
Why is typhon just miles easier than prom sometimes
His big hitbox makes him take a ton of damage from certain boons/aspects
Still a heal and plants still help you get bones
Yeah i was doing a circe run makes alot of sense
Uhh question regarding a late game incantation ||I got Alteration of Familiar Forms, but for some reason I only can change customes to Toula, why can't I do that with the others?||
Also, the fact that Typhon is immobile makes him easy to smoke with certain things.
He can't dodge
Might need to reach max rank with that pet first?
Like, "Oh, 1000 hit point blast that hits in several seconds? Well, guess who ain't dodging?"
||Don't you get that incantation when you get max rank with all pets?||
Me when I type without thinking first
||is there another secret boss on the surface like zag ?||
If you said the dude with teeth on his "tail", you are correct.
And eye ball
Whereas Prometheus is actually pretty dodgy, and also can hurt you bad in melee combat.
Just unlocked || Nergal || and damn the animations look sick. Supergiant was cooking with these hidden aspects

||is the knuckle bones prophecy bugged.? Scylla and Circe talked to me when I brought the trinket but Polyphemus did nothing and it didn’t progress||
There's a few bosses that just suck for melee builds. Typhon isn't one of them, once you learn to dodge his chin.
worked for me for him
Might have had to do some other dialog first, try again
do have the fear on to make the boss fight harder? I was thinking perhaps that’s what got in my way?
I know it's "literally unplayable" type of complaint but I would've loved if you could get UI modifications like you could in Hades. They all looked so good
freezer burn is broken wtf
||bird up, once I saw Medea show up I realized like oh maybe this won’t actually trigger the prophecy progress. However, I had rivals on for Scylla, and Odysseus did indeed show up then. Not sure what’s going on but I’ll give it another go now.||
Finally got the last trinket. Big spoilers: ||seems like you need to beat him 3 times. I was able to get contract in like 7/9 underworld runs when picking shop as early as I could into Erebus, it showed here in 6/7 runs of mine except one time when Nemesis was in the room. I don't think it can spawn when another like Nem or Heracles is there||
Give it another go, there's the tag line for all such games
Still confused ||I want to add costumes to my familiars! 😭 ||
You need to ||max out your familiar bond before you can alter forms! I had trouble with this since the UI between "fully upgraded" and "one step down from fully upgraded" looked the same but just keep sharing those beast-loved morsels and it should unlock||
||That's what confuses me, I got the Incantation, doesn't that mean all of them have already maxed out their bond?||
Hi there, I need a help with a specific prophecy
The ||Drowned Ambitions|| , does anyone know how to do it? I don't understand it fully tbh
Am I crazy to say I feel stronger with aspect of Mel skulls than with aspect of Hel? The fan pattern and the Omega attack Daedalus upgrades are just that good
how do i ||gift chronos? i met him twice already at the summit entrance||
only 10 more achievements on steam 
Broooo || typhon is huge || it’s like giving me god of war vibes (the og ones not 2018 and ragnorak)
It's not crazy, but it's good that hidden aspects don't completely negate the reason you'd want to play base weapons
||you gift him in between the first and second region of the underworld after talking to him there a few times||
oh i see i havent gone back to erebus for a while. thanks
why does the family picture sometimes get covered after a run?
Anyone with the Heracles bond already?
not sure what i have to do, im already champion of the night and stuff
Have to say it sort of just happened after doing a ton of runs. Suppose you have to talk to him more?
might be it, good ol Hades rng
I think I was at like 20F for the "darkest" night description of what more he wants and got the dialogue
must be because mel thinks she is brooding too much
soo i assume is not retroactive?
was the bond even available before 1.0? cant remember
I thought you had to meet him during it, but I don't know specifically
So i began a new file from my EA one, fastest way to unlock secret aspects?
I finally see a Hammer Boon on Night 2 before Hecate fight. I hope it’s something good.
Does the ending ruin the game
no.
what would you mean with ruin the game lol
after finishing the story, ||how many runs I need to start forming a bond with chronos||?
it does not!
I wonder if we could mod out the ending
||where should i kill myself to locate the three fates ? im on the last step||
dw they found a way to kill them without killing them for the aspect of roguelike
I got Rapid Thrasher Hammer! That will help with my Hestia Attack Staff build.
No, it’s just ||misogynistic ||
??????
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At some point on every Hades player career will come the moment where the only reason to keep playing is to improve and try to clear the hightest level of heat...or get all the archivements, so no, the ending can't ruin hades 2.
Huh?? 😭😭😭😭
you'll find out when u finish the game
??? LMFAO what???
or to get all the decorations
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why do you have the worst boss as ur pfp
It's in the prophecy lol ||Oceanus||
im stupid, didnt read it thanks
Hades players never read, just watch at how some people stream it
fr
Wolf Howl feels crazy on Shiva. I can omega special for 55 mana and immediately Wolf Howl where lands/bounces, repeatable
how do they play the visual novel part then
what is the incantation of ||long arm thingy?||
i unlocked it, ||the bar i can upgrade but i have no idea what does it do||
they dont
fair nuff
Ranks, like in the first game
just badges
the fanbase that doesn't play the game the most still goes to Persona 5, I think
undertale,,
no steam achievement right?
oh god not the Dio banner 😭
nah undertale runs on basically anything and is pretty cheap
The ending very much feels ||misogynistic in nature even if they didn’t intend it to be. Zag wasn’t even part of the game, so why did he get to make the final decision?? Mel should have had that choice. She’s the one who carried the entire story. Zag already had his own game. Giving him the decisive role in hers felt like those historical men who take their wife’s work and stamp their own name on it. In the final moment Mel’s agency is stripped because she trusted Zag after she worked so hard to get there. Even if Super giant didn’t intend it that way. It definitely feels misogynistic in nature ||
then i should focus on others first
||It is INCREDIBLY odd that Mel and Zag don't work together||
i want to get all the little ||npcs funko pops|| first
ye, i mean the fanbase used to feel like it only had like 40% of players
I expected ||a bossfight as Zag|| lol
but would just make it worst
i like the ending tho
||forgiving sounds like what Hades 1 do when Zag and his Father forgive each others that believe can break the cycle||
imo it's just bad / lazy writing, it's misogynistic if the theme had been repeating 24/7, which isn't the case at all
anyone know how to put the spoiler thing on mobile? I'm struggling
Only missing one and it's driving me mad
might just be crazy but it looks like torches omega special circles farther away than last time i played (Warsong update)
am i right in assuming they no longer count as close enough for Aphrodite Attack on Moros aspect?
It does make sense. ||I never trusted Zag to go along with killing Chronos. But having him actually make the decision and be the literal hero is just no. ||
the moment that happened I was angry as hell , but hey at least we got an amazing song
I somewhat agree with this too. It's just befuddling. ||I don't think it does Zagreus any favors with most people, he doesn't seem very heroic or especially competent because of this. It's just bleh.||
He trusted a ||being who ate his kids over his own sister 💔||
i still think that is correct way to write ending,
||if you vanquished chronos, i mean if the multiverse / multi timeline like Marvel Kang does. i guess you just repeatly beating chonos and like... nothing happen and all the middle plot / progress is telling nothing as a story?||
or the Matrix, never ending.... mr. smiths
||Bro is batman. "Everyone deserves a second chance." and all that||
||the sis he had like 5 convos with her and the first one is very hard to believe... like cmon||
Has anyone gotten all the ||chthonic chids? looks like i’m missing four, i’ve got hecate, dora, nemesis, charon, moros, eris, artemis and selene||
especially when you remember that melinoe lost all of her childhood , trained 24/7 and only had Hecate alongside her
I fully expected Zag to ||not kill Chronos (it just isn’t his style) and then that being the reason he gets freed and everything in the story actually happens. A literal time loop. Zag’s decision caused everything in the story to happen. ||
||I haven't got all yet but I've gradually unlocked more as Ive maxxed bonds. Hecate's wasn't available until I maxxed her and was immediately there afterwards.||
||Why couldn't they just let Mel truly travel back with Zag, and work together for a peaceful solution? Is that really that much of a stretch????||
||i know max bonds are the unlock condition, just wondering who i'm missing if i can be bothered||
i unlocked the second path but i only beat the game once
i dont know should i play first or second path
either way I'm in it for the combat , the music and the art. The story didn't interest me much at first and certainly not now
Mel could have also ||just defeated Chronos in the present herself. She literally had Gigaros 💀||
first path, probably, it's meant to be gameplay training wheels
*Mel. I think the logic is "||Boohoo, he's way too strong now. We gotta go back and kill him when he's still weak and reforming||."
I saw meg and I was very confused
thought u meant megaera for a second
Which makes no sense when we were able to ||defeat one of the strongest being in all of mythology (Typhon) ||
I wonder what super giant will work on next. I’m guessing they will keep the Greek mythology theme since that clearly makes them money and has a lot of attraction rn
so what's the point of performing dissolution of time
I have. all i did was keep playing and dora eventually unlocks them all
Letting Zag ||ruin your hard work by forgiving granddaddy ||
||You need to max bonds with the specific characters, they're asking which ones they have left. I was gonna check for them after this run. Be great if you'd be able to!||
great question
Am I misremembering or did EA have a cooler UI for the individual weapons and aspects thats not there anymore?
||they had to split to use it on both final bosses ig||?
thats how it made sense to me
I thought I was being stupid but apparently not
i have ||selene, icarus, skelly, oddyseus, charon, eris, artemis, dora, nemesis, hecate, moros. you're missing icarus, skelly, oddyseus||
Hades 3 when 😂
I’m begging for a young Hades game now
The goal at the end is kidnapping Persephone. Jk jk
Unless
That would actually be kinda dope. To play as Hades himself
I hope not, please make something new now! let those nongreek juices flow
Why not though
having a hard time to figure out how to get some achivements. i didnt found anywhere the awnser. 2 in specific, impropable resolts, and chaos in hell. names might be off as i dont play in english
Lol 😂
SGG really shouldn't be "the hades company"
If they continue the Greek mythology theme (which I’m guessing they will since it clearly makes them popular). I’m guessing they will move on to other gods and their children. My biggest guess would probably be Zeus
While I agree there. Both the Hades games in my eyes are magnificent
Which child of Zeus. That is the question
I think they'll do something new before hades 3
i doubt the next game will be a greek myth, knowing sgg they wanna try something new
also please don't just do Norse or Egyptian next
I wouldn't mind Chinese mythos
i do hope if they decide to do another hades like game they bring the stakes back down, something at or below the stakes of the first game would be great
Heracles game would be dope as hell. Just going through all of his labors, aiding in the Gigantomachy while being tormented by Hera xddd.
Some of his labors would be hard to gamify I would say. But it would be dope to fight the lion
There's still a lot of myth that hasn't made it's way into the series yet. I was really hoping we'd see Bellerophon + Pegasus, Perseus, Andromeda, Telamon, Calypso, Hippolyta, Chiron, Oedipus, the Chimera, Pygmalion, Adonis, Jason, Psyche, Eros, Tantalus, etc. I wouldn't mind the series continuing as spinoffs to some degree even if the same formula or etc
I do think Bastion was certainly a precurser to hades in a lot of ways. I wouldn't mind a bastion 2 or rather I want Rucks to narrate another game
I think the level of content in the second game is a perfect spot to stay at. I like the second path option
I went from hating Cronos to loving him.
I think it caused a lot of headaches for story though, hope they can iron it out
Shinto it is
I’m very disappointed that Jason wasn’t in the game when Medea is right there. I don’t think he’s even mentioned at all
im not saying reduce the content, im saying the stakes. so where hades 1 was a smaller family conflict, hades 2 was a much larger fate of the world thing. both work really well for games but the problem with trying to then expand on that is alot of people go to increase the stakes again which gets difficult to do well
Story wise, it was definitely a headache but as I haven't completely finished the second game yet there not any problems with it yet
If there's one consistent theme with supergiant. they are really good at that
that'd be cool but easy to be inappropriate, I think
shinto is still really actively practiced
Ah I see what you're saying now. I do agree with you there.
As a character chronus is honestly portrayed Really well
Considering most weapon aspects clearly are of Norse and Egyptian gods. I’m guessing that an Egyptian/norse mythology game is in their idea list
there is an argonaut. but I think that's the only reference
They are amazing, the game is a gem, it's Hades 1 but better and bigger
did you roll credits yet
Nah only about 14 hours in rn
thank you! ||any guesses as to who the last one is?||
ok credits is a huge paradigm shift
I'll keep that in mind
huh thats an interesting thing ||jeweled pom gave me old grudge, which is obviously useful but especially because I got a hammer first room it means im gonna have a pretty weak build for a while||
||there are only 11 dolls to collect||
||I thought it might be Circe being another unseen, but I have maxxed bond with Medea and i think by that logic she would be one too but evidently not||
how do I activate the secret ||zagreus boss fight for the second time?||
If Orpheus hadn’t been in Hades 1, he would have been such a good player for another game.
Just him basically getting to the underworld over and over to get Eurydice and failing each time.
I wanna play as sisyphus pushing bouldy
Anyone else keep 1 of every fish as a little record of all the fishies?
||oh i see, i have the two on the end on the top shelf so i assumed it would have 6 like how it is on the bottom shelf||
Nah sell them all need them bones
But some of them are so cute nooo
The inventory and the record keeper exists btw
Early on when you encounter Narcissus, is it better to get Silver or Fate Trimmings?
i do hope if we get another game based in greek mythos that we see bellerophon and pegasus, i think that would be neat and you could do a little side story with them
Silver
only goldfish
You need that stuff by the boatload for 4 of the 6 weapons
silver 100% silver gaurds all the tools and all the weapons. fate can eventually be ordered from chiron and bought at the broker
Sister blades best weapon 100%
I love Narcisuss in this game. And I say this as someone who’s favorite myth character is him 💔 I love his design, everything
Shiva + Wolf Howl feels like it should be illegal
Silver isn’t popping up on Narcissus 🙁
Echo is my favorite. Always will be
artemis has gone from a weapon i barely used to probably my second favourite aspect in the game, and morrigan isnt far behind lol
Heracles design got me into the game
I still liked Narc a bit better when we couldn't see his face
I enjoy the original one. The backstabbing is fun
I still think it would've been hilarious if Narc's final art had him with a paper bag over his head
Second this
What got me to try Hades 2 is I loved Hades 1 and they finally added my QUEEN (Hera)
literally the only weapon I don't like 😆
Heras boons are amazing ngl
But then it wouldn't justify his infatuation towards his reflection no?
I can't stand the skull. I'ma be real.
It’s unrealistic though, he’d be flaunting that face card all the time
The 3 base aspects are kinda garbo for it, and the hidden has a particular rhythm you have to learn
how do i get ||soot||?
She’s lowkey the strongest god in the game
see mel blades are fun, but i find them a little flimsy just because of how much you have to get behind the enemy which can be annoying (it does work really well with daze though)
I don't really know what works with the hidden aspect
yeah but it was just really funny to see this dude talking so much about how hot he is, with a smooth nick cage voice, and we just can't see him
||get the ending, keep doing underworld runs||
Do y'all think Mel has to eat the centaur hearts to gain the max hp? My bf and i were talking about the onion item and how she probably has to eat it for it to heal her and now im curious lol
How often are you Special-ing?
Daze and the blades are amazing. My biggest thing is I may spam the omega move to much
Poseidon POSEIDON POSEIDON POSEIDON
Do you think she eats the onion like she's biting into an apple?
Roughly about 40% of the time
it also would be fitting for how he lost his appearance in death but is still obsessed with the idea of it, to the point that he cant even recognize that he no longer looks how he did
Yeah that's what im thinkin haha
I like hel for skull haven't tried anything else since it was unlocked
So it's the duo boon with Ares?
Does Narcissus with Silver show up early like Night 2?
since i am on pc im nearly done, my guess is in the ||lava lake, cant remember how to spell it||
The torches are really nice as well imo
Hmmm, fun fact for y’all. Medea was actually one of Achilles’ brides. After the whole Jason thing, Hera basically wanted to make her marry Achilles when she died
I miss when moros omega special had a smaller radius
After ||Chronus sends you there, how do u get back. Is it by chance||
she eats the boons and hammers too
Om nom nom for real
mel torches are my favorite weapon I think poseidon attack/zeus special shreds
Icarus: "Mel, what do you have in your mouth?"
Mel with a hammer-shaped bulge in her throat:
||its by chance, so i think its all luck based
||mel makes it to the palace for the first time, and apollo offers to send her home via boon, and she just goes "wtf? how is food gonna send me home"||
neh she just eat the boon, to their bewilderment
I use hestia for the torches. Fits the aesthetic
Person named n1 Nergal fan is my twin
The #1 thing to do in Night 2 is Silver 100% right?
also somehow this has become a hera special focused artemis build lol, i took a random rare hera special, which was level 3 to start due to shenanigans, then got an epic bridal glow on it without meaning too, and 2 more poms, so im now gonna go fight hecate with a level 8 hera special and trick knives (oh and rare PP)
i was not aware of this but alright, that works for me i suppose
Anyway i came in for silly question but i see discussion about fav weapons and I say i adore the blades, aspect of pan and the hidden aspect are both very good imo. The blades are both my most wins and my fastest wins lmao but i have been trying to branch out more and try the other weapons and aspects. I dont go for any specific build with any specific aspects, i just go with whatever sounds good while im playing because that's fun for me
blades hidden aspect got me a 13 minutes run today lol
zoom zoom
I like the Nergal axe the most.
I’m currently in a run with skull hidden aspect tho
Like the flash
i got a 14 minute with artemis yesterday, was my fastest ever till i beat it next run with a fine line torch build
hestia is great! my problem is I stack 999 too quickly and don't think it's worth it unless you have "freezer burn"
I definitely agree with you there
both my uw and sf records are with morrigan
I haven't played any blades other than morrigan in a long time
I don't really mind capping tbh. Scorch does a ton of damage per second, and your weapons will still deal damage
just get pyro technique and level it up
my bf's fastest run (17 min down) was with hidden aspect axe which is Crazy lmao
The Chaos trials made me realize how good some of the weapons are with the correct boons XD
The axe is honestly a skill set Im not prepared for yet
I loveee itt. My fav
I love to mash the attack button, the axe is Too Slow
I second this
Nergal is literally that
left click, spacebar, left click, spacebar, and you have now learned how to do a simple axe run
I honestly just dont like slow/heavy weapons in basically any game haha
My m1 never breathes and my index finger cramps but we spam
oh If i can't get Poseidon I'll run hestia for sure but if I do I'm looking for demeter special/cast
Real
hidden axepect is currently the fastest axe, it got a sub 5 time in early access
I don't really like freezerburn lol
Froth goes hard on any build
nergal is also great for high fear since it cares nothing about vow of scars
Fr fr
I think ive only tried it once, ill have to give it another go next time axe shows up with the.... uh... yknow, more bones thing
Something I’ve noticed, I haven’t received an Ares boon at all in playing the game, is that unusual?
The ||Chronus second phase jump scared me ngl||
It's my damage and I want it now!
you need to see the final final bos
Ares will only first appear after getting to ||Typhon’s boss fight ||
Ahhhh I see
ares is this game's demeter, late unlock god
||Prometheus kicked my butt last time. Taking a break from the top||
Ares my beloved
ares is ok but I don't like plasma
Hera as well, but she appears before him
Areas still have doom mechanic?
so this hera special build on artemis that ive accidentally run into is not going great, my damage is good but im taking so much damage too lol
yes and no
it doesnt help that charon wont let me heal either
Ares lowkey trash. 💔
Just wanted to confirm, was removal of all the ||Z sand and V lens|| accumulated during EA intentional?
Do we get another charon boss fight?
yes
you take that back
yes, transformed into kudos for decoration
I can’t
Hah. I like how ||Athena comments "Your Brother's Favorite" when you pick up Divine Dash because of how OP it was in hades 1||
yes so you dont breeze through the story bc they are required for incantations
thanks, thought i was developing dementia
something like that, but after beating the game
not as far as i know, he just wont put food in the shop lol, insisting on useless magick
its on the last patch notes
moros needs a hug
Give me my heals you boat muncher
the nectar he got was his first tribute EVER
so I just rolled credits but still don't have Observance of Gaia's Secrets available even though I've maxed all of my crafting tools - am i insane or is there another way to unlock it
I don't like Flood Gain. I keep taking it because I hear people compliment it but then I keep sitting on virtually no mana and regret doing it. I don't recover nearly enough for it to be useful on aspects like Shiva
And his keepsake is really nice imo,helps with no death defiance runs
ok but like seriously, ive got 27 health rn and no DDs lol (atleast this is accidentally turning into a queens ransom build, i got a hera attack and a random zeus boon, so if i can get ransom before echo and then pom pom pom i will murder everything instantly)
yeah it's not great for an omega heavy setup
Istg Artemis and Icarus appearing and pulling enemies out of their ahh when I was in my last few enemies, in high fear with low health make me want to crash tf out 💔
floodgain, imo, is best for one where omegas are something you use occasionally, to buff yourself or something
It's looking to be a good run then.
but also, why not just use hestia gain? most builds attack fast enough to top off your mana anyways
ONG, why they just join at the last moment 😭
MAYBE NOT LOL, NO HEALING RIGHT BEFORE SCYLLA, JUST A SINGLE CENTAUR HEART
lucid gain is so good after this patch tho
You got this 😂 no hit Scylla
Silver is still not appearing for Narcissus. Is Night 2 too early?
welp time to see if i can do 16 fear scylla with only 51 health lol
unironically better than ionic gain for me
Literally annoying ahh aspect of the game. Why can’t they just pull up after. They don’t even actually help in the fight
Why is Apollo and Artemis’ mom in the chat
Then Artemis complains if you take her kill
Heracles does a better work than both of em together
bro stuns you
Least he gives u gold for your troubles
oh i love having lovers, 3 free hits each boss is so incredibly helpful
Heracles being Nem 2 😔
Until there gone
note how lovers gives you three hits. this is a reference to how orpheus and eurydice are poly
nope, only needed 1 free hit
Is there a way to guarantee that I get into || asphodel||?
no
Nice
you used to be able to get silver night 2 from narc patch 1.0 may have changed that
with this the run has most likely been saved since i'll get fountain here and keep nuking everyone
check if all your familiars are maxed out too
Send me your build afterwards?
Chat, how do we unlock the last heart of Heracles
i'll post in victory boasting
beat him up
Works for me
Oof
also im not sure what keepsake to take for fields lol, obviously no god keepsakes but hmm
You mean like, get more kills than him?
they aren't - but my friend i don't think has her familiars maxed and has it? wiki says i just need all tools unlocked - it's on the minor prophecy with 'upgrade each tool once'
Can anyone else confirm?
I don’t want to keep different paths. I see the same results of fate, ash, and bones.
give him stuff? ||you may have to do rival 3 prom||
Arachne? It's my favorite one rn
fair, armor would be nice since even after a fountain i dont have a ton of health
||prometheus|| is gonna make me ragequit
That's what I was thinking plus the boss is a nightmare
nah its not rivals cerb so its easy
lol wait till you get to ||Typhon||
Swap paths for a time 😂
True
Im just glad I can play it on a potato though
why no god? mid-late game I like taking pig or selune to buff up
Hexes are overrated
||spoilers||
I got close. i beat ||prometheus|| twice and then died the next few chambers.
Bro, I remember when I first unlocked the surface, I grinded so much on it out of pure spite of being beaten all the time that by the time I remembered the underworld and Chronos existed I had a 10 minute run 💀
do you get new dialogues if you "lose" the run during your way to the True Ending?
lol I agree
Hexes are underrated imo. There's still plenty of players who tried them when they first came out, decided not to touch them ever again
Understandable the chambers after take time
It's the opposite for me ||Olympus sucks||
aphro darksude? yes I will take 2k+ dmg for free please and thank you
hexes i feel are mainly an issue of not being able to just take one and forget you took it, most of them are too weak to be worthwhile if you dont invest and if im already doing something else with my build i dont wanna invest
Yeah but by the time it goes off there already dead
I LOVE HEXES. I literally main Hera and Selene’s hexes. Some of them do so much damage fully upgraded
Even if you made that decision then gave them another chance when they added godsents there are like what? 2 good ones? Dark Side with Aphro and I've heard the Apollo Lunar Ray is good.
It doesn't matter whether hexes are weak or not because they can be so cheap, that you can spam them every second
The Rez an enemy hex is fun...
Or the morph one
What are the chances that ||chronos sends you to asphodel||?
Your never returning there low
The beam, the meteor and the making fallen enemies fight for you are the best ones
I appreciate that every boss has a voice line for saying nope that won't work
If you take Selene trinket and Shiva then get Wolf Howl first room, you immediately can Wolf Howl after each bouncing omega special. So you're just invincible, using a more advanced dash, as often as you want/need even if you don't take a single extra Selene boon
I like how Hecate has the line for using a familiar to block hers
Moonwater and Total Eclipse don't count because they were already the best ones without godsent just because they were quick utility/set and forget.
moonwater's godsent doesn't even do that much
in normal encounters sure. I'm talking bosses. some hexes straight up give you +50% dmg if you have that option you should take selune to get to that
Twilight Curse is bonkers cheap at like 40 mana and it can polymorph minibosses, armored elites with perks, and dangerous lategame enemies
True. In reality it's a case by case basis. If it fits in your build take it. If not then oh well
also everyone knows the real use for selene ||is to feed to chronos for money||
agree, I never go out of my way for selune or even second selune but if I have a good path I'll take selune keepsake in act three to get my build
Hexes feel easier to use on the surface cause I can just buy Selene boons from Hermes
Sea Star can also give extras
Hermes shops go so hard
I'm also not a huge fan of hexes because path of stars kinda dilutes the loot pool
That one time I accidentally double clicked and put a rush on and order...
If you got the gold rush it

I don't got infinite gold
yet
Key word yet
Nah I don't mind waiting most of the time more good to spend on his next shop
Besides every so often you get the funny 3 deliveries at once lol
Hexes are in a really good spot now even if you don't invest a single perk into them but it's still contextual. It's just not something you can wholesale dismiss for every aspect or build combo, some are absolutely broken, some might not be worth taking for certain builds. But they're in way better shape than they were on initial launch
If put like that true. I only see myself needing his shop once a run though
That reroll corner goes hard just saying
If I can afford it I'll always grab Hermes boon mystery boon or health upgrade.mm everything else is a bit more picky
Hexes are so good, fully upgraded some of them deal so much damage that I genuinely don’t understand why anyone would skip a Selene room
Oh, for Narcissus we need to unlock Cresent Pick for Silver to be chosen….
Wolf Howl + Shiva really feels like it should be illegal. I'm invincible for like 80% of my gameplay if I just spam omega special > wolf howl on repeat
Synergy.
It depends on how u play the game. I enjoy knowing the dangers that I can die if I mess up timing
dunno if anyone has figured this out but if you take the boon from echo that gives u a choice of 3 from the previous nights boons it counts the ||chaos trials|| as well and not skips over them to your last normal night
No more Night 2 Silver from Narcissus
yep
I like keeping 150-250 gold on hand in case I get a forced shop I want at least a boon
i just got heroic healthy rebound cause of it lmao
I keep around 300 for health that's about it
Also armour in this game is so nice
I do try to keep that much on hand unless I get a ton of them it usually works out ... That medea money drop curse goes hard
but you rush orders? where are you getting this money?
||having 2 hades boons for most of tartarus has gotta be one of the best additions 1.0 had||
I start my runs with the money tarot and keepsake
wdym
|| ran that keepsake yesterday for the first time and got the health replenish boom... Urgh ||
||i got howling soul 8x in a row yesterday||
||whos the keepsake for||
I love how Dora remarks at least two times how taxes are her fault
yeah. I like that and +5 magic per encounter and always go medea first
I basically never use charon's keepsake anymore
starting all runs with gigaros dash
I enjoy it. Nice having that extra pocket money every run
Tbh this sounds like Supay meta.
That magic one is funny if I see that it means I literally don't have to worry about magic for the rest of the run as long as I get some Regen boon if any time lmao
god keepsakes are too good for consistency, at least without onion
thought abt that
I like boatman but have since removed him 5 is just too much he should be a 3 and dd/strength should be 5 inho
i still dont know how to play supay ough
I don't like consistency. I make a new build every run personally
Boatman is only worth if you're taking all the cards for 10 rerolls
well the endgame is for you, there's some stuff that rewards going full rng
I definitely agree there
Also i remember getting up to 3 hammers per run before 1.0
now i barely get 2
Pray that my run is good. Or lose. Simple as that
Granted I will say starting with 300 gold is nice but it's not 5 grasp nice without the rerolls
ayy not the biggest queens ransom either but considering i went full rng an extra 12 levels is not bad
That's why reroll corner and no dd card go hard with boat
sometimes I'm like that but god keepsakes are too tempting lol
It is really easy to make Hades 2 really consistent though
Which takes a lot of the fun out of it imo
i love the insane amount of damage old grudge + knuckle bones throw for the start of chronos
||”Has crafty prometheus proven too much for you, that you believe you shall fare better against me?” - chronos after I died 3 times in a row and gave up on the surface||
it's hard to say I think.
It rewards knowledge, study, and discussing meta with people.
that is also a big element of roguelikes,
I had chaos set to my default start boon if I don't feel like using a god keepsake. Sometimes runs get really funny really quick if I roll something like 80% attack or something lol
He's heartless man. His va is also amazing
True!!
bro he is HARDER THAN YOU, be quiet old man
mid game purse is probably the best starting item but I really love embryo to start cause you can get some nasty things going with a free epic chaos boon
I avoid metas like the plague. Optimizing the game to much kills it for me
that new keepsake is insane i can put on other arcanas and not worry about rerolling
ON GODDDD BRO I’ve prevailed against him 4 times
I’m doing a 30 fear run rn and lost 2 DDs with Eris 💔
True though. Didn't think of it like that
what the hell just happened, i died to an insta kill but i was in the circle, like directly in the middle
The gambling is fun it really is
pretty valid, but it depends for me. Sometimes I just want to know what I'm doing instead of flailing blindly.
Especially in Hades 2, when it can be hard to tell what in your build is doing what. And if it is actually helping, or just being flashy
just live 
lowkey i was sleeping on the axe
Maybe you didn’t have enough time
Heh, you’re welcome
That sounds weird out of context
I agree there to a point. But again everyone plays games differently
apparently
well good thing it's not out of context 🙂
I still don't jive with any of the axes except the hidden one .... Unga bunga
have you used hidden axe yet
time was not on his side 
i did a run with just mel axe and kinda liked it
im gonna try than axe tomorrow bc its late and i have a big test in 2 days so i should get good sleep
Poor run fail
Nergal axe my beloved 🫦
i dont have a single hidden aspect yet lol
Good luck on the test
nergul my amazing spear
Is nergal considered good now?
Than axe is so fun. Like it was fun before but it’s even more fun now
tyyy ill need it
Hidden axe might be my favorite hidden ..m it's so fun
give me Thanatos or give me death...wait
for people who have not clicked the spoiler text it IS out of context
It is peak
maybe ill have to look into how to get it and try it out
yup 🙂
peak braindead
🤣
Axe is great. It's not a coincidence that it's really good, and basically every weapon in the game is really good if you don't immediately dismiss it
Nah I'm dismissing the skull
I was sleeping on Umbral Flames
im surprised i liked axe because normally i dont like slow attacks
I’m dismissing Mel coat
Nergal is peak if you get psychic whirlwind. If you don't, congrats you're playing a C tier weapon in the best of builds.
It's goated trust
ong
If you want a hint || the easiest way to figure out who you have to talk to is to look at the other weapon aspects ..m there's always one person who has an aspect of that weapon you can talk to ||
the omega attack is completely optional with the right build lol
Skull can be great 🤷♂️ So can coat, though Mel has less going for it than others
thats literally every axe
Nah I'm dismissing mel axe
I’ve never done a nergal build with the special… is it even worth it?
I just got the coat. Doing a run on that after my movie
Mel axe hits like a truck since 1.0 imo
axe is just Excalibur which is great cause that was the best weapon in hades 1
mel staff special power plus aphro and duo boon to make close any distance 🙊
Big number slow attacks. Im out. Big numbers fast attacks sign me up
Mel Axe doesn't care about it. Than Axe gets boosted by it but far less than Nergal, and Charon doesn't even press the attack button.
Literally wrong.
The Nergal special is very good. It feels like dodging and attacking at the same time
The fact that you can dodge mid combo helps
"I'd rather not play a section of a game that I paid for" 🤷♂️
||YET ANOTHER HOWLING SOUL TO START AHHHHHHH||
I like big damage numbers and Mel Flames gimme crit damage regularly so I won't dismiss it now xD
Tbh I'd you have this opinion of Thessaly, I completely support you.
I'm ok with not playing some parts of the game, to be fair
I paid for 67 fear but heck no am I not doing it
the fact you need gimimck dodges from nergul :
Starring this
Aspect of moros is so brain dead and I love it. Everything explodes.
I mean it's nice for repositions and more smashing
Just tank the damage yk become Hercules
no become kratos
In not saying I don't tank but it's kinda mobile cause you can do that lol
see with ares and heph legendaries you can freely tank all damage
me with nergal having +200% attack sppeed 
Noted
imagine getting a single legendary in your run
When you take the mirror and she offers you the attack boon without rerolls
I barely used the omega attack on my first successful Nergal run lol I had 205k damage on regular Attack compared to 41k Omega Attack
I don't think any of my favorite Nergal builds had Psychic Whirlwind, I don't use the omega attack often with it
blood spree plus nergul heal per hit
I use Nergal with Hera boons mostly
(I don't think I've seen a legendary in my last 10 nights lol)
Nergal's omega is so so so good
it didnt take me too long to get my perfect nergal run when i did it lol, heph and ares legendaries, iron core and 2x dash strikes so i had instant infinite healing ¯_(ツ)_/¯
The game gave me shocking loss once as a treat
perhaps use the arcana card that inceases the legendary rate by 50% !!!
Try Persephone, big numbers on boons are cool
I used the omega attack a bit cause I took the Icarus keepsake in some 3 and he gave me psychic whirlwind so I felt obligated
Do i need to have certain fear to trigger True Ending fights spoiler || The Underworld fight with Zag || ?
I run it multiple time now and i need to fight one more time
than axe seems like it wants to use omegas a decent amount is there like a certain one i should be using or is it build dependant
no, I don't think I will.
I'll give it a shot
Right before Typhon... Literally the final shop. I cannot tell you how useless that felt.
On a side note, I’ve been loving the ||fate’s whim|| keepsakes. Really forces me to play with whatever the game gives me
omega attack probably
final chop then dash
oh, I had ares legendary and heroic hermes swiftness. nergal was attacking like the staff and when it went beserk it was basically daggers 😆
Maximum unga bunga
I like the omega special, AOE ranged attack
Pales in comparison to EA uncapped plasma (+999% attack and move speed)
I ran a few runs of nergal, but I still think I like morrigan better for melee unga
wth
It was so funny. I’m so sad that it’s gone. Never forget EA plasma
It will be forgotten in a week
I remember you could stack so much in EA you would die because you were so fast you couldn't properly avoid things
I already forgot it
still need to try morrigan, i dont wanna do combos waa
nah trust you don't really need to(for nonbosses)
Morgan only good with final slice, Apollo atk and double dose
Morrigan is great with Hitch
nah those are great to have but not necessary imo
How good are Hera boons?
forget what
The truck is special and omega special hit them on the way back so if you finish with either of those you already have 1/3 of the next teio done
I wish I could forget plasma/blood drops but discord doesn't let me (I mean neither does the game when I'm just trying to get Ares attack + Grievous Blow them never take another door with him on it)
I disagree with ur bad statement 🤓 👆
very good supplemental, Hera is incredible support
Amazing
ok what fear are we talking
if this is 62 then idk, you probably need them
This makes me wanna boot up Hades and do a run
hell yeah. I like starting with ||pom|| but I think the best you can do is ||card, vial, pom fleece/drop/bones/antler||
who saying Morrigan is bad lmao
Omega attack >attack > special >omega attack > attack morrigan is fun. Idk if it's the best daggers but it's fun
Broo I finally got the ||Pool of Purging|| for every region I was missing that
no clue I forgot
Fear 99 
Winner's Circle can immediately make Blood Triad pretty simple
99 heat? from hades 1?
do it, you wont
I remember those runs
Does omega cast count?
hecate with artemis aspect is the most fun and easy fight ever lol
If I had my switch back I would. But had to sell it. 😭
yes
Huh I must've done something wrong I swear it didn't ... I'm dumb
Where do I even get ||Soot|| man
wait I wanna know too
|| after credits underwood run Tartarus Hades room||
I like Morrigan's attack pattern overall, it feels fun and makes you deliberately cycle through for Blood Triad instead of spamming the same thing
how do you do sheep's clothing?
either break a tree onto a witch or just bite them repeatedly
top teir typically. esp. when in fear runs
||what familiar boosts the appearance chance?||
I'm trying to figure out what to do now. I did ||both my runs of the surface and underworld after the ending rolled and now my fated list objective is done but I can't turn it in||
A tree is easir
Or have payback on damage boons like Zeus
both are effortless lol, and biting is funnier
True 😂
||time to go beat up zag lets goooo||
Gl
Oh non rivals ok that makes sense. I was dashing into the ghosts
|| literally just talk to Hades ||
did not end well lol, i had like no build put together by then
...what does your fated list say?
I'm overall really satisfied with the gameplay loop. I got about 220 hours into EA in every update, then have played the game all week since 1.0 and am still playing
where would I do a bug report? I'm playing in a new save instead of my early access one and I encountered Eris in the crossroads before ever fighting her on the surface
Lol figures
this is normal, she's a crossroads npc, you chat with her a lot
yeah but I haven't met her yet on the surface lol
||romancable as well||
That's normal
she's not surface only
like we haven't fought yet
did you do an underworld run?
You don't seem to be getting the idea that that's intended
not a bug
huh ok
she shows up to troll in underworld as well lol
You can literally meet her on your first run... You've been able to since the start of Early Access. She's not a surface exclusive NPC
nah she had a conversation that made it seem like we'd met before
You're supposed to have already met her when you fight her as a boss the surprise is that she IS. Boss
Also I finally maxed my first social bond. My dear boatman friend got the privilege X)
the best ||romance||
Ah ok
yeah they're like, childhood frienemies
Mel has met her before in the story of the world before the game started
||The only one duh||
it's a bit jarring how many people Mel already knows, but you get used to it
She's a frienemy... ||That you end up smashing in both the literal and figurative senses||
Still waiting for the other one she's been maxed out for a while ...
😆
is it me or are ||persephone's|| eyebrows really weird looking in this game
I'd smash,
her wings off,
god I hate her so much
Being wrong is fine
being right is as well
What if I'm neither right or wrong? Is it fine or
LOL at Toula getting "assist kill" on ||Zagreus||
This is wrong
Nyx be like HAHA MELINOE YOU ARE || BANGING MY CHILDREN||
nuh uh
yep
I never romanced icarus with his fake wings. eris all the way
Gotta catch em all
I accidentally romanced nem but that's it
I mean... Zag did it too.
Yeah but zag only did 1
i do all the romancable characters because why not, but eris is by far the best
Mel going for a record
Is it still too weird to mention how quick Zag and Than were DTF after finding out they weren't cousins?
eris still makes the least sense to me, they have like, negative chemistry
Enemies to lovers bro
It's Greek mythology, I'm surprised they held back until after.
I think they already had attraction but were holding off because they thought they were
still enemies
Not in my heart
I did all but icirus. My mel has no time for mortals only ||stife, retibuition, and doom||
enemies to... maybe lovers? is nem
Also imma be real I always forget zag thinks nyx is his mom
TO BE COMPLETELY FAIR, SGG has done an incredible job keeping that specific aspect of Greek mythology out of their game.
That plot point is out of my brain
nyx is mom in my heart
so is persephone
2 moms
This
Nyx is everyone's adoptive mom
to be fair by the end of hades 1 nyx is zags mom in law
But, the Hades' kids have a type: "Conscious".
||third mom incoming||
😂
"Vibes to be about the same age"
I'm just glad they didn't to a multi romance event on this game... It would've been awkward considering the candidates
just like mythological zeus
the only option would be icarus and one of the others and that dont go well lol
Icarus does not strike me as someone who would be down for that
what counts as weapon damage?
especially because im sure he's terrified of the 3 options lol
Tbh I'm shocked Icarus was down with Mel...
Like I'm sure he's fine with the poly but at the same time
I mean, apparently Artemis ||is a swinger||.
Incest is not abnormal in greek mytholgy. but I agree with you.
Any hits done directly with a weapon's attack or special, including Omegas
Look at Zeus
Oh it's not but supergiant has specifically tried to get rid of it as much as possible so
Again,
Though it does result in some weird stuff like how Selene is sisters with hera and hestia and Demeter but is a titan for some reason
I'm pretty sure they changed a bloodline to avoid it. Wasn't it Aphrodite's?
Oh I have
hera hestia and demeter
Yea that sounds right
Do you know actual myth?
I mean they also merged chronos and Cronus so
I think the reason Flood Gain feels bad on something like Shiva is because your MP regain stops once you start charging another omega attack. But that feels natural to do: omega special in a section then immediately omega attack to hit on 3 charges when bouncing stops, so I keep running out of mana
i mean that one is incredibly common
Zeus dropping the subtle line of "I have many children"
Every person who knows real Greek mythos was like "yea, we're completely aware bro"
Hera, Hestia, and Demeter became Hyperion's children
That's wrong on so many lvls
It is and I'm glad they did cause Titan of time just rolls
Reaches chronos for first time, dies in 2nd phase
Oh huh, already at the final boss. This game was shorter than expected
Checks achievements
6/50
oh...
Gng Hades three is the Roman variants. Opinions?
yeah, I have a degree in philosophy and religion. Greek mythology comes up a bit 😆
Chat does he know?
Mans is not aware
the fated list just threw this run for me i think lol
Welcome to the genre of roguelite...
That's dope not gonna lie. Let me ask this. How was Aphrodite created. Let's see which one u know. Or all of them
I see you're new here.
Screw the list duh
I joined specifically to say this
Real
the simplest one is her rising from the sea foam and the blood of ouranos
The only one I remember fully is the Ouranos one
And becoming the first of the Olympians
yes in that variation she is the eldest
I threw a run away once to get zeus' legendary....
There to many varieties of it though 😂
Sob
i cant use my attack for 5 areas, on artemis blades
W run w chaos moment
Chaos does a little trolling
Zap!
Hope your special is Zeus or Aphro
rn my only hope is to survive with my cast (which is at least decent) because i have no special boon lol
OH GOD THIS IS LASTING INTO THE SCYLLA FIGHT
😂
Time cannot be stopped
Dead run
ok charon shop gave me a rare heph special, that helps a little bit
What fear?
now to run around the arena yeeting lightning lance poseidon casts and heph specials
Blue Heph boons...
Did anyone else get jumpscared after the ending when || the codex had a heart and nectar thing for chronos ||
16 fear, also the heph boon is level 4 to start so its not horrible
It might be salvageable
Im waiting for the speed running to start officially ngl
Just go for the no-hit special spam. You got this
i made it through the first half of the fight, dropped 2 of my lovers hits though
U got this
roxy dead, origination off glow and froth is so helpful
can't believe you lost 2 of your lovers
jetty gone
What's even the reward for winning this chaos curse? Was it worth it?
the reward is its off the fated list
😂
anyways i won the fight, took like 40 damage doing it lol

That means no
also my reward is i use 40% less magick...on artemis blades where i dont even need this common cardio gain i have because i use so little magick
we take arachne sash, i need health lol
Indeed we do
Saying I need HP and taking Arachne Sash is the reason Ghost Onion is a garbage keepsake.
i havent leveled onion yet, arachne sash is 2 encounters off max
what's wrong with ghost onion?
Ghost onion sucks
I cannot think of a single point in time where Ghost Onion is the correct keepsake choice.
also i lost armor immediately so rip, i can now attack again though so life is fine
If Ghost Onion was just a Patroclus Hydralite (or even regular Hydralite) for a region and not a limited pool, it'd be so much better
Just dodge better
now i need more poms and i need seismic servo
it's healing that works in scars tho
Ah so I was right (sent you a dm @neat thicket ) didn't think that it was worth considering philosophy in a general chat
I was the one who asked 😭
i used ghost onion a lot at first due to misreading the effect
i have not seen any message request
and also not knowing it expired. like an onion. XD
Yeah, but by the time you're ratcheting up Scars on the Testament, you're probably at the point where you're also wanting to do everything to cheat out on taking damage
Does anyone know what the preqs for unlocking upgrading familiars is? I have 3 familiars but it still hasn't unlocked for me, and I've rolled credits
He probably meant to ping me
maybe take them all out for a run? not sure. You should get an incantation to let you feed them
That might be it, yeah
i can confirm its not, i havent used gale or toula and i can upgrade
I like toula
yeah but you can't get gale until you upgrade the first 3 a few times
I've taken all 3 out for a run
She just kinda lays there and does nothing. My spirit animal fr
since when? im like 90% sure i got both hecuba and gale before upgrading
The cat, frog, and bird
i take toula every run cause i like cats 
i love cats
oh wait a minute hermes legendary might actually be useful now although probably not
On that note I have 9 just running around my house rn smh (5 are kittens)
uh the requirements for gale and hecuba are kinda hazy and keep changing but you were supposed to feed your first pets enough to get hecate to let you get the others
but i also love frogs, weasels, ravens, and dogs <3
taking it for prophecy though
Toula is great at reminding you why domesticated cats are bad survival partners.
We love all the familiars
"Spent at least 3 Witch's Delight (lifetime total) or more on Animal Familiars"
So, recruit 3 familiars, which it sounds like you've done.
Talk to hecate a bunch? Requirements might also just be weird/bugged right now, I've seen others ask how to upgrade.
in mythology hecate had a skunk familiar too
Anybody who was joining in my confusion of how to unlock the weapon aspects
I did not have to beat scylla, but I still have no idea what the actual prerequisite would’ve been
oops wrong tag. I apologize
Nah, it's still dogwater
Movies over time to run more runs
i've had multiple runs in 1.0 where i walk into chronos with an extra like 4k gold lol
why does poseidon do so much damage
the ocean is powerful
Is that what happens if you take all the extra tart chambers? Damn.
also i got servo in time for cerb so ive got pretty quick cooldowns now, get some poms in tartarus and im stacked lol
just ask odysseus
I think it's just ||rolex||
Fair enough
its both
That with the new keepsake, though?
i feel like its built to be more of an area guy but it does SO MUCH single target damage like
because poseidon rules the seas and is low key the most powerful of all gods
I hate the vampire so freaking much
doing tart with all chambers is so awesome lol, I feel like an arpg god
Nahh Hera lowkey got the best
yeah bro got jacked in 1.0
i do all chambers in any run even if its a useless chamber, purely because i enjoy it except if i need well items to last or am on time
"· Phantom (Fields): significantly increased Life drain effect"
He was annoying before and they made it worse
That guy took me 3 minutes to beat when I first started
he was a chump before, imo
marriage over trading? I guess I can sea that
So, I just made a hilariously bad Chaos boon choice.
he still is, simply dont get hit
"Enemies will throw a bomb at you when they die..." Which I chose just before the Scylla fight.
he hells off his buddies though, I gotta take them out first
I just accept every region has one midboss I really don't wanna see.
Cutthroat
Sea Serpent
Vampire
That last stage where she summons tons and tons of flying fish? Holy crap.
the fish in the last phase...
it's so funny
I was about to kill him and he regained over 1000 hp 💔
Real
lol i didnt know that, tbf most runs ive just been using artemis against him so i just parry and nuke him instantly lol
Just kill Scylla quickly and you won't have to worry about the adds swarming you and becoming a minefield :3
2 bombs, you're good right?
he like fully heals if he uses his suck ability because he's gonna clip some enemies
Like 300 bombs once the fish started coming in.
like actual 50% to 100% it's so funny
I forget about that phase because it's normally so free. fair point
exactly, so you parry the suck right at the start of the fight and then nuke
also ||boon! gold!|| yay
I will actually crash out with this vampire bro
just kill his minions
I did
Did I somehow break the game by defeating ||Typhon|| on my first try I wonder...?
Nah, I did it too
same, progression accounts for it
Is this what its like beating the game at 32 nightmare before v1.0
i actually killed him very early on during the first beta he showed up in, but recently he killed me and everyone in the crossroads started doomposting about it being impossible again
i should've taken white antler for here, wouldve worked really well with my infinite money paid dues
nah EA players got that with prom
why bewitching eyes is so good 
I can not tell you how mad I was on such a good run with 600 health to be given white antler on "great chaos above"
also.. i am 100% sure i used that one "revive an enemy and make them fight for you"-boon during the beta on the scylla fight but i did not get the achievement for it
now selene is lowkey hard trolling by not offering it to me ever again
I don't think it was retroactive. I had to unlock it after 1.0
there we go, 16f beaten
Yeah, I am going to crash out with the vampire.
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The axe is too slow to continuously hit him without him hitting back.
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I have no cast rn.
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My hex will just give him more health because I have the hex that makes fallen enemies fight for me
I’m trying to do this too rn
yeah i did it with the most cursed heph build possible on artemis blades
oof, time to pray for selene i guess
Brother, he was at half health. Hit me and got 1000 hp back
WAIT I JUST HAD AN ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE IDEA PROVIDED IT CAN WORK
are you...reloading saves to kill the vampire? it's okay to lose...it's literally a theme in the game
yeah they really overbuffed that guy in the 1.0 patch
Worst God Boon giver?
heph? maybe?
or maybe ares
so paid dues uses 3 gold per damage point to ignore damage. Chronos insta kill doesn't just kill you, it does actual damage. THEREFORE, so long as it doesnt ignore paid dues, I want to facetank insta kills
NEVER BACK DOWN NEVER WHAT
Knuckle Bones or Evil Eye
I have no Death Defiance
knuckle bones is probably better but evil eye is funnier
i got the first 2 fear statues back when you could go staff > poseidon special and just delete bosses and i'm very afraid of trying to get the last one now that you actually need to play the game
why play the game when you can circe
Am I crazy for thinking Posideon is weak?
why play game when you can anubis
Yes. He controls the Sea and can make earthquakes that is terrifying
not really tbh
I like hestia better than poseidon most of the time, and they have similar niches
ngl my brain is too smooth to use anubis
Poseidon is def usurped by other gods rn
no it's actually free
dashattack + cast, and just let them run into it
I've never died to him since the patch
I loooove anubis I love putting down my nuke blitz attack and just letting everything die
I played 1 Anubis run and I didn’t like it 💔
I can't hate anubis it cooks enemies too fast lol
i managed to get a full run with it for the prophecy but i never felt like i was actually dealing damage then suddenly everything just died which was funny but not satisfying
Hestia attack, Demeter cast
add in some zeus stuff like air quality and static shock
Every enemy will die horribly when they walk in
there is also the option for big apollo specials
I’ll try hmm
Anubis staff too goooood
I need to give that a shot sometime but hestia keeps cooking for me
its so much fun that way, take apollo special, anything else you want, and grind out the legendary
Hestia on the staff is simply my favourite way to go
Anubis is possibly my favourite aspect
Definitely mine
||anyone else just shredding these runs with the new Zag + Hades/Persephone keepsake? Just so good to have free heroics||
i should prob unlock that
can someone explain to me what power actually does, hearing "+10" feels so tiny of an upgrade
GUYS QUICK EXTRA DOSS OR PERFECT IMAGE FOR NERGUL
any other case, perf image, but nergal likes extra dose
|| my fav is card/vial/pom (whatever you need to beat the boss)||
Extra dmg
+10 power is 10 damage flat, which is then multiplied by the ones that do % bonuses.
is it just +10 or is it a multiplier
you ever play balatro?
power is chips
Thank you #1 Nergal Fan
Flat, that gets multiplied by any % bonuses you have
lets say you have +100% damage, and your attack does 50 base damage. This means it does 100 damage.
Add 10 power, now it's +100%, and 60 damage. Now it does 120 damage.
Delivered after 7 encounters... Mr. Hermes I'm at the summit
I hate that you said it that way but that makes so much sense
||grinding for the Arachne prophecy right now, does anyone know if it has to be a natural Athena or can I force it with the keepsake?||
you'll get it still
I know right!
Do people run freezer burn on Ygnium's hidden aspect?
just like balatro, the ideal would be a square
too bad we can't crank up our power to match our % boosts
surface can be natural. under obviously needs keepsake
idk I don't, it does a ton of damage already with scorch
"Dashing into attacks" Award
Demeter
||I mean, can I get the Arachne dialogue if I encounter Athena with the keepsake or do I have to meet her natural on the surface? Ive been avoiding using the keepsake and doing surface just hoping she appears||
so far on the safisfaction scale
twin flames - my fav weapon i mained it in beta when it did 0 damage and still main it now that it deals 0,5 damage (moros is my fav)
staff - big fan of all of them but i miss beta staff damage
twin blades - 10/10 on nuke builds, 0/10 when i am low on health and the melee aoe damage enemy is bullying me
axe - have not played enough to decide but this weapon has the funniest hammer upgrades
skulls - i'm not sure whats the best build for them but its extremely funny to just dash into all danger
xinth - this weapon feels awkward most of the time, if the hidden aspect is not raw i will be sad
hephy
xinth is fun if you use both buttons, imo. you can't just rely on attack or just special
On the subject of the skull: Just you wait until you get Medea
me when auto special hammer
This is not my first time asking but are we sure ||bewitching eyes|| has no conditions to fulfill because otherwise I am heavily unlucky
i got all the hammers for my autos to proc specials and prayed
demeter's legendary literally takes away 25% of a bosses health.
Nah, clangs are good with proper investment, Trusty Shield is a free hit per room, even Security System is pretty alright
which i find really nice with aphro attack, zeus special, and their duo boon
The block is something, the fact that there're unlockables that is actually indicated this time means you can't just use blocks like in Hades 1
honestly after playing early access and seeing the game grow and shift, I hesitate to say any of the boon givers are bad now compared to where they started
I never use omegaattack on coat
I tend to go for poseidon the least though
10%, you mean, and are you going to sit here and tell me that you would actually go for a Demeter boon that isn't her cast?
I almost entirely use omega attack on coat.
poseidon's niche overlaps too much with hestia I think, and hestia is just better a lot of the time
p much
Wait, no. Omega special.
I was gonna say, that's very odd but I respect it
I don't want spoilers, but I have a question I needs answered...
Do I ever get to pet Cerberus?
