h2-discussion

[hazy parrot]

mfw i play charon and dont get geyser spout or giga cleaver offered

[prisma monolith]

me who uses ap2

[hazy parrot]

🙏🙏🙏

[buoyant matrix]

still stronk

[hazy parrot]

sorry king i will never complain about boon offerings agfain

[prisma monolith]

i had a build with 2 legendaries yesterday

[hazy parrot]

it iss but i want my geyser spout. especially when i used your keepsake specifically to get it!! you hear me poseidon???

[hazy parrot]

yooo insane. which 2

[prisma monolith]

erm shocking loss and another, will check after

that never happens with ap2, crazy stuff

[nova oar]

Why would you need more details than that?

[tardy swift]

Anyone know how to trigger “Alteration of Familiar Forms” and “Greater Removal of Rubbish” incantations?

[nova oar]

First one is circe, second is picking up enough rubbish by hand

[pallid cradle]

The fact there's an incantation for rubbish is hilarious

[tardy swift]

Ah ok. I’ve picked up over 500 pieces. Know the specific number needed?

[prisma monolith]

i love it

[tardy swift]

Anything specific needed to bring to Circe to trigger her dialogue for it?

[prisma monolith]

I do hate she throws one only after you get close

[pallid cradle]

I keep taking knuckle bones into Thessaly. (Damn you Odysseus)

[austere reef]

because i cant remember any boons and want to look back at which ones were which lol

that i had before without pulling up a wiki LOL

[nova oar]

Nope just keep talking to her and giving nectar

[wise ledge]

Wait, so the aspect of Circe is basically that awful duo from Dem and Aphro that makes your casts aim at you, but even worse? Wow.

[prisma monolith]

No?

[nova oar]

The aspect is amazing what?

[tardy swift]

Aspect of Circe is great

[prisma monolith]

It does nothing of the sort

[silent cedar]

it lets you place down 2 casts at once

[nova oar]

Get a good cast build and it goes crazy

[tardy swift]

I’m with you on this one. Would be a nice QoL feature

[buoyant matrix]

????

[silent cedar]

is prominence flare good

[prisma monolith]

yeah im confused

[buoyant matrix]

only on aspect of charon

[wise ledge]

Oh, ok, double cast is better. I tried it when the familiar was off screen and the only effect I saw was the laser

[hazy parrot]

circe is super powerful my dude. just focus on stacking omega cast boons itll shred

[pallid cradle]

No, but it no longer blocks you out of the other cast boons so there's no downside

[wise ledge]

Double cast is not bad, I just have really bad memories of getting that laser duo right before Hades

[silent cedar]

what's the best familiar for circe

[nova oar]

F o r g (i'm biased)

[prisma monolith]

toula probs

[pallid cradle]

Raki. He's an aggressive little birdie

[buoyant matrix]

raki

[broken raven]

Any of frinos toula or raki - if you want to use storm ring raki is good, if you are planning to use the cast more for area clear like engagement arctic or smolder ring then frinos and toula are good

[tardy swift]

I like Raki best for Circe still he more consistently stays on the enemies. Although it feels like less so since the latest patch, but maybe that’s just a placebo effect

Toula is good but she requires too much micromanagement since she falls asleep and you have to go after her to wake her up

[burnt forum]

anyone know how to unlock circe bond?

[tardy swift]

Storm ring can be good on it but it only targets one enemy and doesn’t count toward Origination

[pallid cradle]

I usually use Demeter or Zeus on Circe Cast

[wise ledge]

What are the requirements for unlocking chaos above/below? Do I need to finish every other chaos trial?

[sterile pendant]

while playing Hades 2 because 1.0 and the new Scylla song, and then the conversation between them about songs and feelings, and generally taking time to appreciate Scylla, I gotta really praise the VA. She did a spectacular job. Fav ¨villain¨ of Hades 2

[wise ledge]

There are only 7 left, and 6 of them are with the weapons I really don't like T_T

[buoyant matrix]

no hestia? 👀

[tardy swift]

I prefer Hestia cast as well

[pallid cradle]

No Hestia

[tardy swift]

Scorch doesn’t stack between the two casts but damage is still nice and it helps with Origination

[pallid cradle]

Bring back blade rift as a cast

Falling sword cast is bad

[long cliff]

is this a BUG or what for hestia? i've tried many times https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/684945888585842701/1421571297674137821/20250927155549_1.jpg?ex=68d984f0&is=68d83370&hm=6949db2b5c06a0883bd655dc82b5a925f03673a030694bff8ee82cdce339c269&

[tardy swift]

Ares is so bad. I can’t believe they didn’t buff him with 1.0. RIP

[misty birch]

Waiting for full release to play this game was absolutely the right call. People who played in early access ruined the experience for themselves

[tardy swift]

I loved it. No regrets

[austere reef]

my my thats a bold statement!! i only played like 15 hrs of early access and killed chronos once and thats how far i got, just kept talking to people and doing runs and didnt do anything else. not having to start fresh is v nice LOL

[prisma monolith]

did they remove the typhon tail from the sky when inspecting in the starting area of summit?

[tardy swift]

Good question. I feel like I couldn’t trigger that scene anymore. But I haven’t checked since 1.0

[prisma monolith]

i just checked

[toxic hedge]

Twinky Chronos art 😭😭😭😭😭

[trim tulip]

I'll admit there are a couple story beats that disappointed me, considering how much they were hyped up throughout early access. But otherwise I couldn't be happier with having played since the start. 10/10 experience

[trim tulip]

Those are muuuch rarer now

[tardy swift]

Not sure what’s the point in making it rare

[serene stone]

So I'm 50 nights in, and still haven't gotten the recipee for familiar cookies... meaning I can't get Hecate's familiars... what am I missing? Got all other three, is it really that based on chance to get the dialogue / unlock?

[trim tulip]

I guess people disliked it, idk
Never had a problem with those. I even liked it because it killed the remaining enemies

[prisma monolith]

what are you talking about

im talking about the thing where melinoe stands and you can see the sky with the tail, not actual combat

[tardy swift]

He was referring to the animation when you walk up to the edge and see the storm before entering the 4th area on the surface

[prisma monolith]

they have it in every area

[frosty flume]

Trying to remember. Some gods are locked between || upper and lower levels correct? ||

[prisma monolith]

only ares iirc

[loud stirrup]

ive gotten it multiple times when standing out there, maybe a bug on your end?

[serene stone]

Yup

[toxic hedge]

Ending might be underwhelming but the credit song definitely isn't

[frosty flume]

Gotcha thank you!

[toxic hedge]

||Moonlight Guide Us interpolation in the song||

Beautiful

[pallid cradle]

Okay bug type.

[trim tulip]

Oh lmao
Then idk, haven't checked it since a first time back then the final area was added

[pallid cradle]

I'm sorry, I had to.

[vernal hinge]

i have 5000 gold right now.

(i don't have the gold to damage boon :( )

[graceful thistle]

Get the losing gold instead of taking damage then

[dusty fern]

So...do I need to restart a save to get the full experience or anything? I have one with 100+ nights (granted end game progess was zapped so eh). Did they add more stuff or was it just an ending and other stuff...I've been having fun with the current stuff a fair amount.

[maiden dagger]

How is Xinth nowadays? Aspect of Selene felt pretty good before, but idk if they changed it

[sharp scroll]

Hi everyone, quick question for those who made it
For the Unrivalled Prowess prophecy, you really only need to kill each boss once? I've killed them multiple times and I can't unlock the last two
Is there another requirement?

[prisma monolith]

good

[spare tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386625846409953281/1421574193954422886/image.png?ex=68d987a3&is=68d83623&hm=fa919346cb373ca9232ef1cd3d44b9c8ad63dd2d4746ce727d6e2fb8fa16ff19&

Icarus hammer upgrade + Heroic Success Rate from Hermes, gottdamn

[dusty fern]

I beat a Vow of Rivals run with it...the extra damage due to moondrop is nice

[prisma monolith]

last 2 you need to finish the story or something i beleive

[buoyant matrix]

reach the credits for the last two

[sharp scroll]

done that, still nothing

[prisma monolith]

Unlocking the final rank of Vow of Rivals now requires having reached the True Ending

[daring sun]

how can I ||unveil the covered up things in the crossroads?||

[sharp scroll]

ahhhhhh got it

[prisma monolith]

fear

[mystic dust]

People here, can I ask a question?

[sharp scroll]

thanks!

[nimble inlet]

I just got the means to kill Typhon

[prisma monolith]

no

[spare tinsel]

yes

[merry whale]

maybe

[prisma monolith]

technically you already asked a question

[merry whale]

so that's 2 questions left

[mystic dust]

about the game

[prisma monolith]

no

[merry whale]

||we just wrote better dialogue than the fates||

[prisma monolith]

ask your question man, this is discord

[mystic dust]

It's just that I can already kill Typhon, but I want to complete the game's achievements.

[wind solar]

achievements question: ||why do all achievements say that 0.1% of players have achieved them? I can't believe that that few people haven't even beaten Erebus||

[merry whale]

early access saves

[prisma monolith]

you can

[merry whale]

actually idk why it's so much .1%

[wintry mantle]

theres unblockable attacks now? thats disappointing

[prisma monolith]

go ahead and thwart him, dont worry

[mystic dust]

If I kill him even though he hasn't done all the orders, can I do them later?

[prisma monolith]

yes

[mystic dust]

yujuuu

[prisma monolith]

youre able to keep playing the game after with no problems

[buoyant matrix]

a great number of people have likely bought the game but yet to play

[mystic dust]

And get the achievements, I want Hades 2 to be my first game where I earn all its achievements.

[prisma monolith]

this sounds like steam being steam

[icy umbra]

I just rolled credits. The ending reminds me of a very particular Wizards 101 meme

[prisma monolith]

yes, you can get all the achievements, nothing changes

[pseudo wing]

i hate yt algo, i got spoiled a part of story by a random thumbnail 😔

[buoyant matrix]

"unfortunately, life is cruel"

[mystic dust]

Thank you, that doubt made me not want to kill him out of fear

[icy umbra]

you know ball

[terse egret]

guys is it normal to make it to underworld final boss without even unlocking aspects?

[prisma monolith]

yes

[icy umbra]

yes

[mystic dust]

Now we have to kill him and then go for the damn chronos

[wintry mantle]

my insane run just almost ended because i got frozen in time

[nimble inlet]

Did you know that if you beat Hecate using a blessing of Athena and the hex aspect of ||thanatos|| it will summon a secret ||steam support|| boss fight

[icy umbra]

However I only did it because I had 200 hours in the early access, even on a fresh file

[terse egret]

so aspects are tied to (usually) after underworld region?

[prisma monolith]

what

[nimble inlet]

Ours 🔥

[icy umbra]

blast

[nimble inlet]

Bro became hades

[terse egret]

like did u beat time bozo b4 unlocking aspects

[prisma monolith]

i dont remember, been months

[spare tinsel]

dont have to beat chronos to get the aspects unlocked no

[nimble inlet]

Time bozo is an epic name

[prisma monolith]

it depends on the person, each person progress at their own pace

[terse egret]

his cool name dont fit his personality so time bozo it is

[nimble inlet]

I still didn’t beat that Hecate boss thingy

[icy umbra]

although I feel like I beat the game WAY too early. Barely unlocked aspects, only failed 5 out of 20ish runs

[prisma monolith]

rivals?

[nimble inlet]

[prisma monolith]

what hecate boss thingy?

[nimble inlet]

Nope

[spare tinsel]

you havent beaten Hecate at all?

[nimble inlet]

Regular
-# I’m just kidding I have weird humor

[static anvil]

guys

[prisma monolith]

i think you forgot the punchline

[static anvil]

I'm in echo room and there's no echo but I cannot go forward what to do

[prisma monolith]

look harder

[solar sonnet]

when do polecat and pup come back? they seem to just disappear after like 10 runs and they havent been back in like 15

[long totem]

So. Um. Is it too late to ask them to change the ending /hj

[pine olive]

are heph blast boons limited to 4 second cooldown now?

[nimble inlet]

Tomorrow I’m gonna use the incantation of dissolution of ||Typhon||

[icy umbra]

you gotta find them

[solar sonnet]

oh they move kk

[icy umbra]

GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALL

[nimble inlet]

I think I forgot, period

[spare tinsel]

need to get all the other pets first before Hecate gives permission to get them

[woeful oriole]

i forgot i never learned EM4 chronos, i guess ill have to learn it now to make getting the true ending more interesting

[balmy shuttle]

how do i locate three fates?

[terse egret]

yall got any fav synergies for sisterblades (other than fire/lightning and pure aphro)

[prisma monolith]

did you try looking for them

[balmy shuttle]

where

[nimble inlet]

I don’t think so? Also you can do the Poseidon heph duo to make it shorter

[prisma monolith]

everywhere

[icy umbra]

did you see the ending?

[spare tinsel]

step 1, wait for Moros to say "Death To Chronos" when you talk to him at the crossroads
step 2, look at the prophecy again, it changed, follow its directions

[nimble inlet]

The fates and Echo are playing Hide and Seek with us chat

[balmy shuttle]

when does he say death to chronos?

[prisma monolith]

at one point

[spare tinsel]

randomly, just talk to him every run

[pine olive]

I currently have the duo and epic attack at +2 for a 4 sec cooldown. just rerolled poms 5 times and didnt get upgrade choice. guess im just insanely unlucky

[jaunty chasm]

Hey question, anyone here know how to view records of specific previous runs like in hades 1, i can only see the total statistics

[balmy shuttle]

oh nevermind i think i need to use moros keepsake?

[spare tinsel]

no

[prisma monolith]

in the taverna

[nimble inlet]

Yeah I think it’s just a skill luck issue

[spare tinsel]

you just.. .you just talk to him, we've said it like 3 times

[torn parcel]

hope that bewitching eyes comes out on spotify this song is so good 😩

[balmy shuttle]

prohpechy says something like use the keepsake 3 sucssive times in oceanus

[nimble inlet]

Ye

[jaunty chasm]

Where there is only the guy who offers overall statistics not like wins and losses of your recent runs?

[prisma monolith]

go all the way to the left

[nimble inlet]

And ||fated glory||

[jaunty chasm]

Oh found them

[torn parcel]

i love the sirens

[wintry mantle]

sometimes i seriously forget how difficult chronos can be, but its also kinda depressing in a weird way? like i know his every move and how he will use it but i cant dodge them anyway

[torn parcel]

theyd get me so easy LMAOO

[nimble inlet]

Fr

Flying fish in Erebus

[wintry mantle]

chronos kinda ruined my self esteem a little lmao, he has the same moves but he hits harder now

[torn parcel]

why chaos jus give me a heroic, rare and legendary boons dammit now i have to decide what i want

[nimble inlet]

I’ve been doing a lot of unrivaled lately for the story, I lost once to a bad build and won like 9 times since the update

After rivaled it’s pretty damn easy

[wintry mantle]

and ive lost to chronos because he kept hitting me from off screen lmao

[nimble inlet]

If only you had echos keepsake on it…

Have you tried stealing all of the options and jumping into the portal before it reacts?

[torn parcel]

what.

[spare tinsel]

what's that even mean

[nimble inlet]

Ive decided to give Hypnos type advises

[fleet chasm]

Hey, what does this ||shining blue icon|| mean next to the mana bar?

[spare tinsel]

thats from your weapon aspect i assume, depends which one youre using

[nimble inlet]

Are you using ||aspect of Thanatos?||

[torn parcel]

speak of the devil i jus came across echo!

[nimble inlet]

Yuppie

[wise ledge]

Can we all agree that the spinning octopus is the worst miniboss in the game, or is it just me?

[prisma monolith]

i hate the pirate more

[median shuttle]

i only have like $21 cad on my prepaid card (it was a gift im 15) and i wanna buy hades 2 on steam. rn its $39, do yall think it will go on sale soon?

[spare tinsel]

nah worst miniboss is still Charybdis

[prisma monolith]

who knows

[nimble inlet]

She’s a fun mini boss tho

[torn parcel]

echo my bby narcissus never deserved u 💔 😭

[wise ledge]

Okay, true, I forgot about charybdis

Worst miniboss in the underworld then :D

[kind wharf]

Does anyone remember how to unlock ||boss modifier fear||? My friend hasn’t gotten it yet and Idr how I got it

[final radish]

Just got the ending and...man, that was so disappointing. I had super high hopes.

[keen hull]

can someone tell me who is it I have a target on? or how am I to tell who is it?

[nimble inlet]

Ah yes the Yargonaut

[nimble inlet]

Beat Hecate 3 times

[prisma monolith]

it says so in the vow table

[nimble inlet]

I’m pretty sure

[long totem]

Does anyone know if we'll have Odypen reunion. I'm desperate at this point.

[nimble inlet]

Mhm?

[kind wharf]

Oh he has already but i dont think hes went downstairs since the patch that added it

[nimble inlet]

His gun is so goofy

[keen hull]

I am at the oath place, and I can see an icon for the skull weapon. Red eyes, flowing black hair but I have no idea who this mofo is I am supposed to beat with the weapon and +3 oath

I'd share a photo of the situation but seem to cannot for understandable reasons.

[prisma monolith]

sounds like scylla?

dm me if you want with the pic

[nimble inlet]

Red eyes? ||scylla or Prometheus||

[fleet chasm]

@nimble inlet I'm using Aspect of Artemis I believe?

[keen hull]

red eyes black flowing hair? 🤔 I thought the hair of scyllas was blueish of the tentacles

[spare tinsel]

that means your Parry is ready to be used then

[prisma monolith]

dm me a pic

[nimble inlet]

Flowing is more like ||scylla|| but red eyes is more like ||prom||

[nimble inlet]

Yes, sounds like rivaled Scylla tho

[prisma monolith]

it was prometheus

[nimble inlet]

I think it’s the parry

[prisma monolith]

targets dont show rivals

[keen hull]

Ah yes, Thanks!

[nimble inlet]

That’s what I thought but black hair got me

[prisma monolith]

yeah it was prom

[balmy shuttle]

yall why are yall trying to mislead me

[nimble inlet]

Yep, suspected so

[prisma monolith]

cause youre asking questions that boil down to "play the game"

[mental gyro]

After killing Chronos for the first time I didNt klick on the golden globe that spawns in the boss room and directly went to the zag bedchamber (i thought the globe will reset me and not the bed). what have i missed?

[balmy shuttle]

||keep talking to moros yall said i just used the keepsakes 3 times and died on purpose and found the three fate?||

[prisma monolith]

ok 👍

[spare tinsel]

she just says a little line, youll get more chances

[wise ledge]

||Yes. 3 consecutive times and die. Also pls spoiler it||

[nimble inlet]

||Oh I didn’t find the fates yet, moros keepsake you say? Alr||

[random lintel]

I somehow was able to get my than axe to go to 30% mortality, how did i do this because im really confused now

[spare tinsel]

did you have the Heph legendary that increases the rank of your weapon maybe?

wait no that would only increase the attack speed

[nimble inlet]

Heph legendary?

[balmy shuttle]

||go to oceanues use it 3 times in different rooms then die on purpose||

[keen hull]

eh, I'd argue If I'

[nimble inlet]

K

[random lintel]

Never had it

[nimble inlet]

Maybe it’s some sort of Icarus thing?

[keen hull]

If i'd fought with him in the past, the game should tell me, its prometheus 😄 but thats just me.

[random lintel]

It was in the underworld

[nimble inlet]

Let me think

[elfin heron]

how to complete the melinoe help us quest

[spare tinsel]

play alot

[final radish]

What a bummer. All that EA time to not like the ending.

[prisma monolith]

that wasnt replying to you sorry

[main jungle]

Without spoilers, did they add an ending to the surface path?

[prisma monolith]

yes
game is complete

[mental gyro]

Will there be another feedback round for future patches? I am playing on an ultra widescreen monitor. Many games allow the UI to be more centered so it's easier to see your health/mana bar (and casts). would be nice to see this feature in the future. #h2-feedback

[elfin heron]

I beat both chronos and typhon

[spare tinsel]

finally got the 3rd new keepsake, definitely not as good as the first two but still neat

[spare tinsel]

have you rolled the credits yet?

[elfin heron]

nah

[spare tinsel]

gotta get the credits and then play even more beyond that

[elfin heron]

how I get the credits

[random lintel]

ping me if you find out the cause bc I have no clue

[spare tinsel]

do the main quest, kill time

[nimble inlet]

Looking in the book of shadows for any clue

[elfin heron]

alright so is there no way to get my hands on N-mare rn '

[prisma monolith]

win runs

[spare tinsel]

you get nightmare from the Testament of Night

[prisma monolith]

you get nightmare from testament, from broker, from charon delivery, from charon shops

[crude dragon]

You get them after your first win

[nimble inlet]

I have an idea but it’s pretty absurd, maybe it stacked critical chance from Artemis with the mortality?

[prisma monolith]

no shortage of nightmare aqcquirement, thats for sure3

[crude dragon]

You mean Charon? Not Chaos?

[elfin heron]

I won twice

[prisma monolith]

apologies, yes

[restive charm]

i don't believe they did that for hades 1 so i think it is unlikely they will do it for this game. but i could be misrembering here so if i'm wrong anyone is free to correct me.

[prisma monolith]

keep winning

[crude dragon]

Do you not have the bounty board Testament of Night in the training grounds?

[prisma monolith]

oh you meant that now, nvm

[final radish]

Not likely. They closed the feedback channel. I think overall I'm far less satisified with how SG handled Hades 2 than Hades 1. Both development and story.

[random lintel]

I think I did get the +4% crit chance but it would go to 24% if it links together

[lucid frigate]

Anyone got any advice, I'm having trouble unlocking the incantation to be able to rest/upgrade pets. Neither "Attending a Faithful Beast", nor "Bravery of Familiar Spirits" are appearing. I have frog, cat and the bird, I have completed runs with all of them and I'm sitting on 16 of the Witch's Delight.

[meager garden]

I think gameplay cooked, though it coulda gone further, and story is meh with some good characters

[nimble inlet]

Maybe you upgraded it or perhaps it’s from the arcana?

[mental gyro]

SG?

[elfin heron]

yea I do the place where u make the game harder right

[meager garden]

supergiant

[random lintel]

Not arcana related, I don't change mine. Only upgrade I did was the 50% higher chance of effects happening from hermes

[final radish]

I still like the suite of Hades 1 weapons more and thought the concept of 'cast' wasn't handled well at all. Zag's cast felt so much more dynamic than Mel's, despite her being a witch.

[crude dragon]

Have you noticed how you get a specific boss marked to use with a specific weapon?

[meager garden]

whaaa cast is so much more fun here

[elfin heron]

yea its purple skulls though not N mare

[nimble inlet]

That’s the answer then, 50% of 20 is 10 so it went up to 30

[meager garden]

putting down a big aoe trap that enemies melt in is a lot of fun

[final radish]

I hate how samey every cast is...none of them feel that different from the base one, and 'circle on the ground' isn't super exciting.

[nimble inlet]

That’s my best guess

[spare tinsel]

you get nightmare when you beat them at the listed fear level 4head

[astral bough]

is it normal that im 300 nights in and i still havent got the Silk and Spitefulness achievement? how many dialogues is it left

[elfin heron]

ohhh

[astral bough]

and ive already had the ones about the curse iykwim

[final radish]

Mel and Dora are great. Eris is fun, some of the new additions are cool, but agreed that some characters aren't as great. Resolution of the story is far and away my biggest issue.

[random lintel]

But That's so weird how that works, but this is probably the answer. thanks for helping!

[mental gyro]

As of right now I really like hades ii. Music is great, game doens't feel too different from hades I (which i like), story is good so far.

[graceful sundial]

guys, finished the longtime quest of ||killing chronos||. dont know how to feel actually. ||should I wait for the epilogue before making up my mind?||

[nimble inlet]

Np, also it makes sense, it’s +50% more chance the critical thing from the mortality will occur

[meager garden]

I like the house of hades crew a lot more than the crossroads crew 🙁

[nimble inlet]

Yep

[meager garden]

I think hades 2's surface npcs are super good though

[final radish]

I miss Meg and Than and how dynamic their relationships felt.

Hades 2 cast most of the character relationships don't really change start to finish.

[nimble inlet]

Support or including Icarus and such?

[meager garden]

yeah including icarus and heracles and such

[nimble inlet]

Oh then yeah, there’s a lot more

[astral bough]

💔💔

[final radish]

Oh yeah I love Icarus.

[meager garden]

Heracles, Medea, Polyphemus, Icarus, Circe
And then you get gods like Athena and Dio
very fun

[final radish]

But Aracnae is not my favorite, ESPECIALLY not compared to Eurydice and Orpheus.

[atomic river]

is the auto collect items incantation real where you have to catch all fish?

[nimble inlet]

I need daedalus too tho because he helped us so much in Hades 1 and 2

[meager garden]

yeah
and also max out all familiars

[atomic river]

does it count if i use toula

[nimble inlet]

Fr but the dress part is cool, effects wise not so much tho

[meager garden]

I don't think the thing where you need to collect them all in one run is real

[atomic river]

yeah i mean can i catch the fish with toula or does that not matter

[meager garden]

you just need to collect every single fish? I think? Poseidon will give you a dialogue and achievement
Yeah toula is fine

[supple nymph]

ending spoiler ||why does good chronos look so zesty||

[nimble inlet]

Also Arachne is kind of a fun killer sometimes, she can bring down the mood

[atomic river]

alr ty i was wondering cz the incantation isnt on the wiki

[final radish]

I will say Ody was a great replacement for Achilles. Loved both.

[nimble inlet]

I hate myself for pressing that

[meager garden]

the wiki hasn't really been updated since Unseen update(June)

[supple nymph]

he looks like a fruitball

[nimble inlet]

I DID NOT FINISH

[minor stirrup]

Do you have to ||tame the familiars in a certain order before others will show up|| in the expected places? Basically I have ||Frinos and Toula already, and have encountered the raven once, and Hecuba and Gale are missing from the Crossroads now, but I'm wondering if I have to tame the raven before I can start encountering and taming Gale?|| (I'm really sick of the Underworld and want to spam ||Surface|| for a bit) - spoilers for a mechanic that seems to unlock after about a dozen runs

[supple nymph]

bro pulling up to the function feeling like a bad bih

[meager garden]

eh not a fan of ody because he feels like he doesn't do that much, but maybe he gets better later(he's currently locked for me)

Achilles was a great "wise big bro that's got your back"

[nimble inlet]

Mhm?

[supple nymph]

ody gives you knuckle bones best keepsake oat 🔥

[meager garden]

that is true his keepsake is very good

[nimble inlet]

I half like Oddy, I think he needs to do more story time tho

[meager garden]

I said this a week ago but like, it's so sad that odysseus is always like "Goddess, watch out! Reports indicate that there's a scary monster in this zone!" and mel is always like "Yeah, I know, just died to them."

because odysseus isn't allowed to spoil bosses, I'm pretty sure

[nimble inlet]

Fr

[supple nymph]

i was going through the credits and theres a mod section for the ponywarrior guy wtf?

[nimble inlet]

The who

[supple nymph]

person who made the ponymenu

[minor stirrup]

I think Ody would be more compelling if he were a romance option. He's got hot beefcake energy, and could have a lot to say about mortal life and his adventures, but he seems like the sort to properly open up only in a more intimate setting

[meager garden]

I woulda preferred if he had more dad energy I think

[fringe linden]

Does anyone know why with Aspect of Hel Melinoe will periodically decide not to charge her Omega Special or Omega Cast?

She will hold the Skull like she's charging it but never start channeling

[nimble inlet]

Wouldn’t date Odu because of his past with women

[meager garden]

no mana?
you can't ospecial until your normal special is back
and ocast can't happen if there's still a cast on the ground

[nimble inlet]

Yes, and more story time

[minor stirrup]

True, he should have a lot of either one or the other (either hot beefcake energy or protective dad energy), as he is right now he feels a bit milquetoast

[meager garden]

I think moros is much more milquetoast tbh, not a fan

[fringe linden]

Special is returning & she is holding it as if she is channeling, but not channeling. Mana is full & skull has completed it's little lap

[final radish]

Moros is....bland. I don't hate him, but he's just boring.

[prisma monolith]

i recon after the credits chronos no longer sends you to asphodel?

[minor stirrup]

I do kinda agree with that, I like Moros but he's a bit too reserved and his personality doesn't really shine much

[ember glen]

Hades 2 ||does anyone know why they left the Eris curse in the game? I was so certain they’d only implemented it for the beta so people wouldn’t blast through the content too quickly. It feels like an artificial means to hold you back from progressing, whereas in Hades 1 you could theoretically beat the game on your first try.||

[meager garden]

I can't help but keep thinking "sorry, your brother thanatos was way cooler than you"

[nimble inlet]

There are some good moros parts tho

[meager garden]

I agree!

[nimble inlet]

And Hypnos

[final radish]

Agreed. He just doesn't have a personality. He's meek and doesn't really have feelings beyond "sheltered kid" energy.

[fringe linden]

I figured it out. I have the hammer that extends Valkyrie Form after using the Omega Special & you cannot Omega Special while Valkyrie form is active. The Omega Cast thing is when the Omega Special is flying for some reason

[graceful sundial]

guys I can't deny feeling ||let down by the ending||. 😭

[prisma monolith]

it wasnt to stop blasting thru content, but rather the story so it makes more sense, so keeping for full release is only logical

[meager garden]

my guess is that they thought the game would be too easy and progression too quick if they didn't have Eris. Not my favorite design decision though.
It still is very possible to clear your first night, but it just feels very direct and mean.

[tall meteor]

devs very adamant on "you will NOT progress through the game at a reasonable speed on second playthrough, go eff yourself"

[fringe linden]

What a awful feeling aspect. Why does the hammer make me unable to use part of my kit for 3 extra seconds

[pallid cradle]

Prometheus didn't have to roast Raki like that

[meager garden]

isn't valk mode supposed to be your main dps though

[fringe linden]

I already think Revall sucks & is by far the worst feeling to play but somehow this is worse than chasing down the skulls

[void bear]

there's a leftover artifact in game. anyone know where i can send the pic of it?

[fringe linden]

yeah but now my entire rythm on resetting it is screwed up by the hammer

[ember glen]

Story-wise it makes sense for her to do it every night, or every couple of runs, though. It feels completely arbitrary that it’s only when you’re early on in the game.

[meager garden]

special will magnet up skulls, you don't need to run at them

[humble current]

Do you think there’s a chance SGG will change it in some way? I wouldn’t think so for any developer other than SGG, who built Hades off of responding to player feedback

[graceful sundial]

play medea. to me is one of the strongest aspects and once you get the hang of it, pretty much it will carry you up to 32 fear

[minor stirrup]

Yeah same, I don't mind them introducing mechanics to slow down the player, but the way they chose to implement it with Eris feels frustrating and at times really discouraging, like the developers are smacking you and saying 'NO, you will lose this run because we said so!'

[meager garden]

it's part of why I hate eris the most in this game, she should've been the real villain

[final radish]

0% chance. They did a lot less general community changes in EA for Hades 2 than Hades 1, and definitely aren't changing the story of a fully released game.

[fringe linden]

already beat 32 fear on underworld with most of the other weapons. Revall has not cleared its first boss on fear

[ember glen]

Also, for anyone who played in the beta: is there any weirdness story-wise when you’ve beaten a few runs already in beta, but obviously haven’t seen the ending scenes yet?

[prisma monolith]

i think eris is fine, is only like 10 runs anyway, and lots of players wont even see her

[humble current]

Putting down the cope pipe 😔

[prisma monolith]

around 300 hrs in early access, everything seems just fine on my end

[meager garden]

I'm just saying, it's not a coincidence that my first clear was night 11
(it's because eris finally decided to go away)

[fringe linden]

Yeah its the only one I enjoy & it's just copying the homework of the Beowulf Shield in Hades 1

[humble current]

I haven’t gotten the chance to play yet but I did watch the ending and I’d be fine with it so long as all the characters feel consistent. Like, Zag would definitely do that, but I don’t know if Chronos would lol

[ember glen]

So when you ||beat Chronos|| for the first time after launch, it launches you into the usual first time cutscene? For example

[meager garden]

yeah

[prisma monolith]

yup, lorewise we never killed chronos

[final radish]

OH, speaking of that. The axe's special feels like absolute crap and I cannot believe they never improved it in all of EA. AWFUL design.

[meager garden]

they just buffed it lol

[ember glen]

OK, thanks everyone

[minor stirrup]

Agreed, and I think it's really strange to have one of the romance options be both a major and annoyingly repetitive hurdle to your early game progress and also a ||boss||, who also constantly negs you and has such a snotty insufferable attitude. The way she's written, and tied to frustrating mechanics, makes me loathe her and I would never consider romancing her because of it

[graceful sundial]

After so long? I don't think so. I mean, the ending has already been released, but it feels such bittersweet. For EA players like me Idk, feels even worse ||to play for so long and expect chronos to pay for his deeds and... Are just supposed to accept another timeline and forgive him? Come on. Vengeance is a part of life. Chronos had his chances. I am kinda disappointed that ZAGREUS is that one who chooses, like, the game is all about Melinoe.||

[fringe linden]

im only doing runs with Revall now because i still need to beat a surface run with it (the last one for the prophecy) and beat a run with Aspect of Hel & Aspect of Melinoe (I did Persephone earlier today) so that I can never have to touch it again

[meager garden]

nah they release and move on
there will be no Mass Effect 3 patch for Hades 2

[prisma monolith]

too big of a change, if it was early access maybe, but thats no longer the case

[fringe linden]

and legitimately i think there is a 0% chance i ever use it again once im done with the prophecies. I already got its daedelus hammer one

[minor stirrup]

My first kill of the final boss was with an axe omega special run, if you choose the right Daedalus boons and get magick regen it can be pretty busted and the range on it is stupid

[meager garden]

I think revaal is fun lol

[fringe linden]

everyone is entitled to their own opinion, playing it actively makes me miserable

[gleaming parrot]

I love Hel and base skull

[meager garden]

Hel is just pure dakka
Base Skull is spamming a rocket launcher

[prisma monolith]

theres not a single aspect i dont like

[fringe linden]

it just doesnt click at all for me

[final radish]

Did they really not add any resolution to all the gods clearly treating mortals like crap and ||Prometheus' implying he did this because he had to or anything? Or is that later prologue?||

[graceful sundial]

It feels like ||TLOU 2|| but somehow poorly executed compared to that. Like... ||melinoe trained all her life to achieve her revenge and all of a sudden that lifespan duty is thrown away because Zagreus decided to give gramps another chance|| 💀🤡

[nimble inlet]

Same, it’s like the rail special from one

[prisma monolith]

i think this question is better suited for #h2-story-discussion

[nimble inlet]

I like doing the air strike build

[meager garden]

oh yeah I saw WideGrin + Oattack in the trailer and I was like "wait I never thought of that, that sounds fun"

[west berry]

why is chronos roasting me cause|| i pressed pause|| lmaoooooo

[strong grotto]

Not looking for spoilers, but it feels like doing more runs to take on Chronos is the way to go to get the ending. Nothing much seems to be going on up top.

[west berry]

i hope more people see this without knowing about it

[meager garden]

you need both
the surface clears feel kinda underwhelming

[nimble inlet]

Can you say what do those hammers do? Don’t really remember names

[meager garden]

wide grin = shoot all skulls at once in a speard
oattack = omega attack airstrike

[nimble inlet]

Oh yeah

[strong grotto]

Yeah that is what I was thinking. Wondered if you had to deal with this down below first.

[minor stirrup]

Do ||Chaos portals|| not appear in the ||surface regions||? I need to advance some stuff with them but I've done 3 ||surface runs|| in a row and not* seen any opportunities to visit them

[broken glen]

They do not! Only underworld (wait nvm) (they can spawn in Ephyra and Olympus, but I’m not sure about Thessaly/summit)

[humble current]

All things considered, I’m not that disappointed and I’m certainly used to worse, but I still didn’t expect it from Hades 2, but eh

[west berry]

is there a chronos timer dialouge like hermes in the first game?

[buoyant matrix]

only first room of ephyra and olympus

[meager garden]

they're rarer but yeah they can show up

[minor stirrup]

Gotcha, many thanks folks

[broken glen]

Yep, sounds about right

[oak bloom]

you’re right. ||he had his game, she should’ve had hers. zag never really forgave his father so it rubs me the wrong way that he berates mel and they all just.. have to take his word for it. its wrong on so many levels that it pisses me off. I don’t even believe zagreus would do this||

[fringe linden]

this hammer is going to make me lose what was going to be a really good run

[meager garden]

why do you need your ospecial so much?

you're using hel, just hold down the trigger
to kill typhon, shoot him until he dies

[fringe linden]

i keep going to throw it to reset valk form a second to early & then when mel doesn't do anything i freak out

[meager garden]

even normal valk form lasts longer than it takes for the ospec to return to you

[hollow mulch]

in the early access he wouldnt even let you pause

[nimble inlet]

Oattack is an hammer?

[graceful sundial]

Somethings are ||forgivable. But ruined families and broken bonds beyond repair also exist, and they should also be addressed. Would you forgive someone who took everything from you, imprisoned your father and your whole family and threatened your headmistress? I feel like Melinoe lost so much, not Chronos||

[meager garden]

oattack = omega attack

[nimble inlet]

Ohhh

[west berry]

i wish that was the case

[meager garden]

removed after a month or so

[nimble inlet]

I’m not very bright

[west berry]

oops wrong reply

[final radish]

||To me it also feels so weird that the WHOLE game builds up Mel wanting to be with her family and then she IMMEDIATELY leaves them and we get exactly zero time with them bonding or making up for lost time?||

[west berry]

he did sat some evenings i might not allow this

[hollow mulch]

still sad about that, it was great flavor

[meager garden]

(it's still in the game in ||rivals||)

[open oar]

How can I unlock the last ||vow of the rivals? I've done both previous bosses but it doesn't appear||

[west berry]

so who knows maybe he will unpause one day or night

[fringe linden]

yes. i understand that. but it doesn't last the extra 3 seconds that the hammer makes it last. so when i go to throw it at the same time i would have before the hammer, melinoe just holds it up like it's her show & tell presentation. i understand it's my fault i am not getting the timing, but i would not have taken the hammer if i'd known it would throw off my timing. hence why the hammer is gonna cost me the run

[gleaming parrot]

And tons of people still complained about it

[meager garden]

yup

[nimble inlet]

Oh also with more shells hammer

[grim beacon]

Hi everyone! I have an issue with triggering unfinished business prophecy - I played the game in early access and I am wondering if it might be caused by using an older save. I have max hearts with Odyseuss so what are other possible prerequisites?

[meager garden]

I think people argued it was an accessibility thing because you should always be able to pause

[oak bloom]

||EXACTLY 😭 she didn’t get to experience her childhood, ahe lived all her life as a weapon. whenever she met chronos he would belittle her, mock her, threaten her and taunt her. and she has to back off now because… zagreus says so? the man who never forgave his abuser? right ||

[meager garden]

I'm curious to know this as well, I can't find anything to let me progress him

[west berry]

you think he has a dialogue for the timer display?

[gleaming parrot]

I think that's mostly a copout response for the level of pushback it received. It's a 2 - 5 minute fight at the most, not being able to pause for a 2 - 5 minute window isn't the biggest issue in the world

[oak bloom]

||it feels like they had to make it so everything comes together for the gameplay loop to still works, but they couldve thought harder on it lol ||

[fringe linden]

ive had timer on since day 1 & i dont remember hearing anything, but i havent gotten into speedrunning or anything so my fastest clear is like 15 mins which probably wouldn't be fast enough

[nimble inlet]

Yeah it was a nice Easter egg

[random lintel]

I think #h2-story-discussion might be a better place for this

[graceful sundial]

I feel like the ||forgive and move on thing has become so overrated and common as of late. Like... We all hold grudges from time to time. Some things can't be solved. Relationships won't be mended. This is life. And Melinoe wasn't even given the chance to make this choice. Come on.||

[final radish]

I feel like relocating or having the OPTION to visit the house/crossroads/whatever would have made this a lot less crappy.

[nimble inlet]

Not a very secret one tho

[west berry]

im assuming he has for reaching him super fast

[oak bloom]

youre right, sorry i was engaging with chats so ill be mindful

[west berry]

but what about super slow like an hour plus

[oak bloom]

I wholeheartedly agree

[random lintel]

No no you're fine! Just wanted to point you in the right direction for the future!

[fringe linden]

yeah idk for sure, thats why i wanted to say i havent gotten any crazy quick ones

[oak bloom]

also makes sense, ill @ you on the story discussion room because i have thoughts

[oak bloom]

I appreciate it!

[meager garden]

idk if there's dialogue, but there are special win titles for that

[grim beacon]

|| yeah and this combined with the resolution of the Fates quest - it makes this all feel rushed and kinda lacking. Mehcanically finding them was kinda fun, but it lacked the story payoff and reward of the previous game. It works for prometheus, but other than that nobody really achieved what they were going for.
Hecate reveal is maybe the only thing in the endgame that was satysfing to me and surprised me. ||

[meager garden]

ok chat what do we think will be buffed/nerfed or bugfixed in following updates

[sturdy goblet]

Scorch and Hitch nerfed to the ground

[meager garden]

pls no

they need to buff medea I think

[sturdy goblet]

Hestia's aoe blast also

[sleek oar]

They need to nerf pan i think

[meager garden]

I agree, this is very true
Nerf poseidon and Heph while we're at it

[sturdy goblet]

Anubis' staff again nerf it to the ground

[meager garden]

supay should get a ball removed

[sturdy goblet]

You can clear the entire map with a single omega attack with apollo

[sturdy goblet]

We just got it back 😭

[meager garden]

actually take them both away for symmetry purposes

[tidal cliff]

I got my duo boon in area 1 and my my main gimmick boon in area 2 I think this game loves me

[oak ivy]

they should make it so medea's special snaps to enemies when using it on a controller.... 💔

because I can never hit any enemies

[merry venture]

Did you get this to trigger yet?
I think I have the same problem. Pretty far through a new game, but ||still can't take Frinos out with me||.

[meager garden]

equal and opposite reaction
your next 5 runs will force you to take heph or poseidon, whichever one you like less

[unkempt kelp]

are the new ranks that you can unlock just a cosmetic thing or what

[meager garden]

yeah I think so, you get the chibi portraits

[fringe linden]

heph is so goated i love him

[tidal cliff]

💔

[fringe linden]

poseidon on the other hand...

[real otter]

if i remember correctly, the chronos sands and typhon eyes i had before 1.0, were supposed to turn into some perstige thing after 1.0 dropped, right?

[fringe linden]

yeah, its called kudos

[sturdy goblet]

Kudos

[fringe linden]

it was prestige in EA though, they changed what the currency is called

[real otter]

coool. where can i find it?

[fringe linden]

is dora decorating for you yet? you spend it at her

[sturdy goblet]

In your inventory? You use it for decorating mainly.

[meager garden]

decorations are oddly late unlocks imo

[real otter]

oh that's kudos

[sturdy goblet]

Yeah

[elfin heron]

What do we need to collect alongside time dust to kill Kronos and bring about the true ending?

[wooden basin]

cant get new ||scylla´s song|| out of my head

[strange berry]

Hello ! I was a huge fan of Hades 1, I have like 140h on it and wanted to complet everything on it but I didn't play it since like 3 years maybe? I have done almost everything (I think I have the true ending, it's just challenges and some cosmetics missingà but when I wanted to play it again, I was totaly lost, like I forgot all of my builds...

I really want to play Hades II but I'm afraid of being frustrated if I don't complete everything on Hades I before starting II or being unable to play the first one after spending a lot of time on II :c

Do you have any tips please? (Sorry for my english, it's nor my first language)

[gleaming parrot]

You can sell excess resources to the merchant for kudos

[meager garden]

Do you want tips for starting Hades 2?

[gleaming parrot]

Either play Hades 1 again, or play Hades 2. I'm not sure what we could really tell you

You're going to be rusty at anything if you have several years gap between.

[atomic river]

how do i get more stardust ive done all the chaos trials i have

[gleaming parrot]

You can buy at least 1 from merchant

Per Crossroads visit I mean

[prisma monolith]

i dont exactly understand what youre asking for

[elfin heron]

Does anyone know what's up with the three fates quest, does me practically completing the game in early access lock me out from completing these quests? I have the related Hypnos cauldron incantation thingy but have seen absolutely nothing in terms of progressing these 2 quests

[unkempt zodiac]

honestly... hades 1 postgame grind is stupid huge. once you get the true ending, youve fully completed hades 1. maybe win a run with each aspect if you want to have the full experience. but hades 2 is approachable at any point

[mortal stag]

might be an odd question but what is the file name for Hades 2 that contains the info about all my resources
i checked ResourceData and ResourceLogic yet i cannot find it

[sturdy goblet]

Typhon x5

[prisma monolith]

try the modding discord, i doubt the average folk here will know about the files

[elfin heron]

Thanks

[fringe linden]

its a secret just keep beating up the old man until hecate says to beat up the big scary guy

[mortal stag]

let me find the server then

[fringe linden]

then keep beating him up

[elfin heron]

Thanks

[gloomy goblet]

yo way is my computer crashing when i open hades 2. It was working fine in the EA?

[mortal stag]

okay i cannot find the modding discord, can anyone help

[prisma monolith]

ill dm you

[minor stirrup]

Imagine if James Woods voiced Hades in this series lmao (he voiced Hades in the Disney Hercules animated series for those that remember)

[prisma monolith]

ill keep logan, thanks

[wise ledge]

Any advice on how to play supay? Other than the build, I need it for the chaos trial.

[pure mist]

Im sorry did they just make aspect of thanatos better ?

[meager garden]

mac or pc

[prisma monolith]

yes

[pure mist]

its so fast now

[gloomy goblet]

pc

[meager garden]

yeah, it was actually kinda underwhelming numerically before

[pure mist]

im happy i like it :)

[minor stirrup]

Oh Hades' VA in this series is wonderful and most appropriate, I'm just laughing thinking about James Woods doing all the serious and disapproving dialogue in these two games

[meager garden]

this is a new thing with 1.0. check out #h2-tech-support

[elfin heron]

sounds like your drivers are wack

[gloomy goblet]

I can asure they are not

[meager garden]

woods was so excellent in hercules
renaissance disney had such good VA

[radiant fulcrum]

holy schmit* scylla ft charybdis is SO DAMN HARD
i HATE it

[brazen ibex]

||The Chronos keepsake is so funny he gives you a Rolex and recycles rewards into more gold 😭 || story keepsake <

[elfin heron]

that boss fight is so free wdym, best part is you can resurrect one of the sirens to fight for you lmao

[meager garden]

it's so goddamn hard

[strange berry]

Thanks for your advice. Yes, it's a little hard to explain. I know I sometimes have "ODCs," and I'm afraid of getting frustrated at not having completed everything 100% of Hades and starting Hades 2.

But returning to Hades 1, I'm completely lost after all these years without playing it. I don't even know exactly what I have left to do anymore, but yes, I do think I got the true ending. I've played 140 hours and completed about 90 escapes.

[radiant fulcrum]

absolute bullet hell

[cobalt quest]

I came to him one time he asks how I stole ||the rolex|| 😂

[meager garden]

*OCDs

[brazen ibex]

Oh my god

[strange berry]

thanks

[radiant fulcrum]

i was running axe too so my attacks are too slow to get hits in between dashes

[fringe linden]

also to whoever asked about bugfixes a little bit ago i hope to god they make it so you have control of Melinoe during the big Bond Deepened message for maxing out your relationshiips or unlocking the cap because a few runs ago I took 60 damage after maxing out Poseidon to one of the Rolling Stones in the Fields of Mourning

[elfin heron]

they keep buffing the aspect of artemis sister blades, they were always OP, now they are stupidly OP, try em out

[fringe linden]

just took 60 damage before i got control of Melinoe back, and the enemy had come from off screen during the dialogue

aside from that i really am happy with everything. just give the player control while the Bond Deepened message is on screen please. personally i am just not going to gift anyone anything else in the Mourning Fields

[fathom lake]

Than Axe its my favorite axe now

[pure mist]

Wait hephastus's cooldowns arent synced? you can have one on sprint, special AND attack? ??? bro im learning so much stuff

[slim pike]

Kinda funny how the aspect of charon feels like it has even less of a badic attack than before

[fringe linden]

making it 40% attack speed was so unnecessary but it makes me so happy

[slim pike]

Look at the boon icons as they're recharging

[prisma monolith]

serious face poseidon looks so uncanny

[pure mist]

I know i just realized but thats so op

[devout cairn]

Guys I'm so good at this game, only 0.1% of players have each of my 21 achievements 😎

[strange berry]

But what you said is interesting, what do you mean by postgame grind is stupid huge in 1?

[fathom lake]

Yeah lmfao

[prisma monolith]

the amount of stuff you can buy

[strange berry]

There is less in 2?

[prisma monolith]

id say around the same

[west berry]

i think ||chaos ||trials Intervene with the dialogues

poseidon told me you reach oceanus faster than the usual but i only did that cause of the trials

[meager garden]

chaos trials are funny because it passes a night and everyone has super generic dialogue
easy way to gift everyone really fast

[granite prawn]

I did this and it didn't work for some reason. Not sure what I did wrong

[west berry]

its so confusing

im tempted to not do them early cause of that but i will become too strong doing the trials in end-game

[velvet hearth]

Imma be honest, im some 10 hours in Hades 2. And I think everything is better than 1 gameplay wise, excpt. The dialgoues, character interactions and characters themselves, just aren't as good as 1. Melinoe isnt as interesting or charismatic as Zagreus. And the companions/secondary characters aren't super interesting.

I hope as I keep playing this changes but ive been sayting that since hour 4

[west berry]

the funny thing is i find echo the most compelling

[velvet hearth]

LMFAO TRUE

[random lintel]

Tbf the setting for mel is much more serious than zag's was

[meager garden]

I kinda agree
once you hit surface the game is a lot more appealing, imo

[velvet hearth]

is she tho?? Zag could be very serious, its just she doesn't have a lot of personality, idk if its playing into the "warrior kid" trope but she just doesn't have a lot of charisma

[unkempt zodiac]

Maxing all your weapons takes like 200 runs

[elfin heron]

my main gripe are the weapons, they just dont hit the same, i want to be able to shoot myself with a rocket in order to make my machine gun do more damage

[west berry]

but i think it has to do with melinoe to begin with cause she is a warrior/witch since she was born she knows nothing else and she is ||luna snow|| and can sing

[strange berry]

Oh boy

[velvet hearth]

im about to concut the thingy so I dont die fast in surface

[fathom lake]

Shes very fun sometimes

[meager garden]

surface just feels very exciting when you're doing it for the first couple times

[strange berry]

So for you, what is "completing" Hades 1?

[random lintel]

||She was raised to kill one dude and kill him hard. She barely has good social interactions in the beginning||

[unkempt zodiac]

Actually I'm probably underselling it maxing all your weapons prob takes way longer than 200 runs

[velvet hearth]

there was something about Zagreus tho, he had this "smugness" about him but he also deeoply cared for htose around him that made him compelling

[meager garden]

nah I'm close and I'm at 190
coulda done it faster if I was focused on farming nightmare

[velvet hearth]

if this is is 10h+ spoiler im not reading it 🙁

[unkempt zodiac]

I mean h1. In h2 it's way more reasonable

[pure mist]

I felt the same at first but after some experimenting with funny builds i managed to get some pretty fun stuff :)

[random lintel]

just relating to mel's attitude, I'm just spoilering to cover my ass

[meager garden]

oh, idk I never got too far in H1 after getting ending lol

[minor stirrup]

For me, when I get the True Ending I consider games like this having been 'completed', though I will happily continue to play them for post main-story content (like maxing weapons, pushing Fear as high as I reasonably can, etc)

[unkempt zodiac]

H1 weapon grind is like 2 or 3 times longer than h2

[elfin heron]

i just stick with sister blades aspect of artemis since it just 2 shots most bosses 😭

[meager garden]

H1 in general feels more grindy than H2, which is weird because H2 has way more resources

[unkempt zodiac]

H2 stuff doesn't cost as much and there's way more ways to get resources

[pure mist]

True xD If you managed to get a crit with like a super powered strike it can do a few thousand damage

[elfin heron]

its so easy to get crits too

[unkempt zodiac]

Between broker, running on 12 fear, testaments giving up to 3 nightmare, Charon cards

[west berry]

also the cast she is with are not really diverse you have two sisters who hate you idky (eris/nemisis) a serious mistress witch (hecate) , chronos which you know nothing about

[elfin heron]

raven pet + artemis keepsake

[pure mist]

whats raven pet

[pure mist]

oh wait dont tell me i just restarted a save so im still just unlocking aspects

[unkempt zodiac]

I agree with this, the story is a little weaker. The gameplay is such an improvement that h1 legitimately feels unfun at times tho imo

[west berry]

like i feel disconnected to a lot of the cast cause they are in the crossroads cause its a (safe zone) and just cause

[unkempt zodiac]

It is very rare that I'll have an h2 run that I dislike. H1 that's like at least 30% of runs

[devout cairn]

zag and mel are kinda too vanilla, I agree Zag is more "playful" but they are still so similar, too goddamn polite and considerate of people's feelings 😭 . I wouldn't have minded Melinoe to have a bit more spice than Zag.

[elfin heron]

well, you can have pets, im pretty sure me saying that isnt spoiling anything

[velvet hearth]

true, odysseus is goat tho I love him, meli is nice girl, artemis nice girl, but thats it...they dont have an edge to them like Meg for example had, or Hades himself

[meager garden]

In Hades, everyone feels like they're at work, trying to get through another day
In Hades 2, they're all supposed to be at war, but it doesn't feel that tense

[pure mist]

oh pet i read keepsake bruh im blind or something

[west berry]

the down time in this game really feels off

[velvet hearth]

Also hot take, the game shouldn't be as high rated as it is when it's lost one of the biggest appeals Hades 1 had.but again im only 11 hours in this can change for me

[elfin heron]

well artemis keepsake is kinda nuts its so strong

[west berry]

and having the whole olympus waiting for melinoe to beat typhon doesnt make sense to me

[prisma monolith]

just did the contest of champions, and i have nothing to say but absolute cinema (i totally didnt lose 3 death defies in it)

[pure mist]

its still the same ?

[serene plume]

How do you progress further after || Main story chronos becomes good u fix timelines together happy family || I have no idea how to get the last 2 trinkets || Chronos for sure and Zagreus ( I guess) || and looking for direction

[elfin heron]

they're greek gods, they're lazy

[west berry]

what was the biggest appeal?

[minor stirrup]

My god, that one song that plays in ||Ephyra|| and ramps up during the ||Polyphemus|| boss fight is so damn good, I keep stopping just to bop to it

[devout cairn]

that is a hot take, this game is better than Hades 1, the positives far outweigh the negatives for me. And I say this as someone who loved Hades 1

[prisma monolith]

i think the biggest appeal is the gameplay, and the gameplay is phenomal

[strange berry]

Thanks for your advices, I need to check if I did the true ending of the game

[elfin heron]

yes iirc 30 health cap for +40% crit chance for only 1 location

[velvet hearth]

The characters themselves imo is the biggest appeal, each run felt different and amazing never boring. Here the dialogues are a drag many times, nothing of substance is being said that makes you go "oh what a fun interaction"

[pure mist]

damm

[velvet hearth]

Disagree

[elfin heron]

they needed that 1 location cap because +40% is just insane

[west berry]

even the new boons they are less appealing to me

[velvet hearth]

me too, but its because of new melinoe mechanics I'd think

[west berry]

except selene i love her

[cobalt quest]

1st is ||underworld between 1st and 2nd region|| 2nd just ||check every mid region shop and you will find out, you need to do the thing twice||

[west berry]

i think i should clarify that i mean the new characters who give boons

[pure mist]

I disagree i feel like the new base effects for olympians allow for more control over your build type

[elfin heron]

Can someone let me know what the 3 new keepsakes are?

[prisma monolith]

gameplay wise i feel like the game is good

[velvet hearth]

ahh aphro's husband is so boring and the heart hoddess too xD I also dont like her design tbh

[west berry]

thats not what i mean

[fluid pagoda]

I just got this, and i just want to say:
"THANKS YOU SG! THANKS YOU!!! " https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332559238580535357/1421603913324433438/image.png?ex=68d9a351&is=68d851d1&hm=7e06a0722fcce73b395789a80ee9f8950ee942c18371a9ca28d59a0a38f2c549&

[serene plume]

So i just do underworld runs till i unlock the things?

[cobalt quest]

2nd works on the surface

[ember glen]

Hades 2 surface route ||someone on another server thinks Prometheus is the final boss of the surface route. I can’t wait for her to beat him and realize ||

[valid ore]

What sprint boons work on dash and which don't? Unpleasant surprise taking pos dash on torches to replace heph dash

[cobalt quest]

1st is 50% chance for him to appear between regions but I don't think he will let you gift him on the 1st encounter, might need to see him several times (I am not sure!)

[crystal bramble]

just finished the story

[prisma monolith]

i assume you can fight ||zag|| in the surface with the same rules from h1 rules?

[minor stirrup]

He is currently utterly demolishing me, I don't think I dodged a single one of his attacks last time I fought him and I had 4(!) death defiances! I'm so scared of what lies beyond lmao

[west berry]

like heras boon doesnt make sense to me , having hephaestus when we had daedalus hammers before , and apollo doing more damage and thats it

idk it doesnt hit right with me

[toxic hedge]

I remember people thinking that Ares could be the big evil

[pure mist]

But more range D: and funny hammer bonk :(

[pallid cradle]

Alright, I got the ending... I mean I guess.

[meager garden]

people thought a lot of stuff

[prisma monolith]

first or second

[fluid pagoda]

First time|| i fought him was in the Coliseum, i beated him first try, using three DD lmao. ||

[pallid cradle]

First one

[buoyant matrix]

i found it to be ok, wbu 👀

[devout cairn]

I still have a hard time differentiating between his attacks, their startups are too similar. Name of the game is to hit and run instead of relying on your reaction time I guess

[pure mist]

I better stop looking at this channel before i get spoiled lol

[west berry]

like aphrodite charming enemies , dionysus poison them , and defensive athena and critical hit artemis was cooler in the first game imo

[prisma monolith]

i called the first ending, not exactly as it did, but the end result, so i cant say im displeased

[minor stirrup]

I wish ||Heracles|| was a romance option, this dude is like a sexy aloof bear (or dare I say lion) and I want him to carry me away in his enormous arms (surface route spoiler)

[pallid cradle]

Meh, it's not as bad as I kinda expected but I don't really think it was great.

[fluid pagoda]

you better lol.

[meager garden]

||yeah as soon as he starts, I back off
in phase 2-3, he has a new pattern
2 non AOE attacks, 1 aoe attack, and then he cycles
I think that's the pattern, at least||

[pure mist]

Im starting to read some crazy stuff xD

[fluid pagoda]

spoil it please.

[dreamy dove]

Where do I get soot?

[granite prawn]

||Post-game talking to Hades||

[minor stirrup]

Great advice, I appreciate this honestly

[serene plume]

|| Ye had a couple of encounters with friendly Chronos (atleast 3 ) and he was busy entire time once the introduction then a talk with nemesis and started to doubt its there||

[west berry]

like the witches enhancements ,arachne dresses , and icarus inventions seems way better boons than the other new ones and couldve replaced the boons instead of olympians

[meager garden]

no names but fair enough

[cobalt quest]

Ye it's there but you can't do your thing with npcs if they are busy with someone else

[edgy pawn]

It may sound dumb but how could I completed ||family confidant|| prophercy?

[prisma monolith]

confide

[toxic hedge]

Just found a weird altar at Charon shop

[prisma monolith]

mmmmhmmmmm

[west berry]

will the game explain eris motives except that she do this just cause?

[cobalt quest]

Confide 👍

[dense light]

||how are people under the assumption that jetty actually wrote bewitching eyes? I get scylla says she did but the lyrics out of my shell and give you my pearl pretty heavily imply scyllas just lying about jetty writing it LOL|| Scylla and sirens new song

[toxic hedge]

||THEY ADDED ELYSIUM TO THE GAME????||

[prisma monolith]

shes strife incarnate, that explains it

[dense light]

im like shes very obviously deflecting

[toxic hedge]

She does it just cause. She says so. She's strife. That's her job

[meager garden]

so does her blood make her be annoying or something

[west berry]

we have a friendly doom incarnate wdym

[meager garden]

she says she didn't choose this life but she also chooses this life
I don't get it

[toxic hedge]

Try using his keepsake and dying :3

[pallid cradle]

... The first dialogue with Dora after the first ending... Nah I agree with her

[west berry]

thats how most characters feels like to me

[prisma monolith]

who is now freelancing because nothing is being written to doom

[meager garden]

yeah it's really friendly and good

[maiden dagger]

I've been trying vow of rivals 3 surface. This is pain and I wish to delete this enemy

[meager garden]

I think it can be a lot of fun lol

[royal mural]

anyone working on "long arm of the unseen"

[elfin heron]

Death defiance is not the method, Strength is simply way too good of an arcana

[maiden dagger]

I'm using Selene Xinth. There is no fun

[prisma monolith]

i refuse to strenght, i like death defiances

[minor stirrup]

But my crutches 😭

[toxic hedge]

||please tell that we fight Asterius and other bloke in Hades 2||

[maiden dagger]

Just torture and being chased by cocaine bear

[west berry]

like she is a "traitor" and melinoe is so aggressive towards her and then she goes oh hey babe take a nectar

[pallid cradle]

||The Titan you said you were going to slay this whole time... Assisting us. Hate to say it, Mel, but sounds like you totally blew it. At least the Titan part||

Nah, she cooked.

[prisma monolith]

no

[meager garden]

Strength gives you free ||athena ||though

[prisma monolith]

dont care

[toxic hedge]

Evil charon of this game because tf you mean he chipped away 45 health just by one attack 😭😭😭

[tulip comet]

You can't use Gorgon amulet then

[elfin heron]

It does what

[prisma monolith]

and thats totally fine xd

[meager garden]

gorgon amulet is soooooo good

[prisma monolith]

thres plenty other keepsakes to use

[elfin heron]

Eh, -40% incoming damage and +20% outgoing damage is the real crutch over just respawning with half health

[royal mural]

how

[toxic hedge]

||He's playing way too mercifully lol. Otherwise we'd be zooming around like kid with ADHD||

[prisma monolith]

athena keepsake

[tulip comet]

Im just leveling mine have 3 left to unlock👀

[buoyant matrix]

yeah lol, at least it's funny

[toxic hedge]

Goated amulet and a run saver at that

[prisma monolith]

wouldnt call it a run saver, but it is good yeah

[minor stirrup]

I do hear that! Once I get a bit more familiar with the fights that are new to me right now, I'll definitely swap over to Strength

[meager garden]

||Divine dash|| exists in this game
It is still very strong

[pallid cradle]

Acknowledging your ending was kinda C tier does not absolve it unfortunately

[tulip comet]

Build maker 😄

[prisma monolith]

numerically its around the same, dont think the death defiances save you more, aside from the chronos one shot

which you shouldnt be getting hit by

[minor stirrup]

Oh yeah, I never get hit by that

[prisma monolith]

then you should be fine

[buoyant matrix]

honestly as long as they fix the onion bug i don't mind the mediocre ending

[west berry]

why is chronos sending me to asphodel in chaos trial lol

[cobalt quest]

I used to waste (not purposely) my death defiances and then get the amulet to replenish them 👍👍👍👍

[buoyant matrix]

need me my high fear runs! 🙏

[elfin heron]

because its time travel his entire thing

[meager garden]

he does a bit of trolling

[prisma monolith]

all fun and games will athena doesnt give them back

[toxic hedge]

||At least now I know how it actually felt fighting Zag|| 😭😭

[west berry]

i thought chaos trials were like a single levels didnt expect that

[pallid cradle]

I'm gonna keep playing because the gameplay of Hades 2 is great but I'm not in a rush to push for the true ending.

[merry whale]

trust

[cobalt quest]

There's also ||echo||.... However, you can't use rerolls on her

[prisma monolith]

i thought the champion of elysium would make one item from the shop free, is even better than that

[cobalt quest]

You can sell this item too 👍

[prisma monolith]

wdym sell??

[meager garden]

buy low sell high???

[prisma monolith]

oh like you can purge the contract thing, ok

[cobalt quest]

Like... Exchange for gold 👍 (but with ||one of the new keepsakes||)

[prisma monolith]

oh i havent gotten the new ones yet

[plain remnant]

♦️ 🖐️ ♦️ 🖐️ ♦️ 🖐️ ♦️ 🖐️

[cobalt quest]

But you can't purge lil pieces of poms from ||icarus|| even though you can do so with +5 hp things

[elfin heron]

Where does one get aspect of medea?

[violet gull]

guys, can someone tell me how to use spoiler keepsakes

[prisma monolith]

in the skulls

[elfin heron]

oh wait i can just buy it lol

[cobalt quest]

What's the question? How do you activate them or how do you play with them?

[prisma monolith]

so hows the game

[cobalt quest]

You rely on fates instead of making your own fate 😎

[prisma monolith]

me with ap2

[buoyant matrix]

carrot playing the new keepsakes way before 1.0 launched, absolutely massive brain size 🔥

[violet gull]

i have no idea how use them. like bot of them imply i can use them and i need to use one of them for quest but i have literally no idea HOW to use this keepsake

[prisma monolith]

oh shoot is a keepsake now?! poggies?!

[chrome plaza]

out of itnerest, anyone playing on switch? as in, switch 1? friend is planning to get it and wants to know if it runs well

[tiny apex]

do i have to encounter the crow multiple times to be able to bond with him? i've been clearing erebus and wiping for an hour now and have only gotten one fountain encounter and i greeted the raven there but it didnt give me the option to gift him anything

[buoyant matrix]

not really, I'm joking 😂
one of the keepsakes needs you to ||never have rerolls in the run||

[wise ledge]

Why is the three eyed trial of the daemon with the damn supay is so, so much harder than five eye trials. What the hell.

[pallid cradle]

Also wait I just thought about this

||What's going on with the surface now? We eradicated the final boss? Prometheus the final boss again?||

[prisma monolith]

ah, i dont use the rerolls so perhaps ill consider once i get it

[cobalt quest]

Basically you just use them all together 😂 1st then 2nd then 3rd, they have the same requirements and give huge pay offs for relying on fates

[wooden basin]

||Heracles|| bond was there before 1.0?

[supple pelican]

i found out you can pet the dog now. 10/10 fantastic update

[prisma monolith]

yeah seems like prometheus is just big dumb and evil

[meager garden]

darn 🙁

[tiny apex]

?

[wise ledge]

||Timey wimey ending magic||

[violet gull]

oh, they could have just wrote it

[prisma monolith]

not really?

prometheus isnt affected by that shenanigan

[buoyant matrix]

it has another very tough condition so you'll reconsider

[pallid cradle]

man screw this ending. Thank god Mel is so fun to play

[spare tinsel]

believe it or not but this is how it works in the music industry, people write songs with the intentional knowledge of who will be the one singing it

[wise ledge]

||Yes, because the Typhon is still the final boss, and HE is affected by the shenanigans?||

[prisma monolith]

they asked about prometheus

[tiny apex]

how hard is it to answer this question

[cobalt quest]

||If you mean you dont understand how to activate them, you need to not use any of the 2nd row keepsakes except the last one, and not have reroll cards||

[meager garden]

yeah you need to see each fam twice

[buoyant matrix]

just twice, you need to give him a cookie

[wise ledge]

||Reread their initial question||

[tiny apex]

gosh dangit itlooks like another hour of wiping at hecate thank you both

[spare tinsel]

thats how it works for all of the pets btw

[prisma monolith]

reread the second half, it had context added

[cobalt quest]

I think you need to see him for the 2nd time

[meager garden]

do you need to pet frinos twice to recruit

[spare tinsel]

well i guess it doesnt work that way for Frinos, but for all the other ones yeah you need to meet them once, then meet them again and give a cookie

[wise ledge]

||They are literally asking who is the final boss of the surface now that the typhon is gone and is Prometheus the final boss now. Which he isn't, because thank to time shenanigans they bring back the typhon to be the final boss||

[prisma monolith]

with typhon dead, prometheus becomes the new final boss, in terms of story

[meager garden]

this is why frinos is the best

[wise ledge]

He doesn't. Maybe before you reach the ending, idk

[prisma monolith]

typhon is just an illusion, meaning prometheus is the last true enemy you fight

[spare tinsel]

nah once you perma kill typhon you just cant go to the surface anymore until you also deal with chronos

[fringe linden]

ik i talked a big game about hating poseidon but i just had a run with Black Coat with his Attack boon & his Ares duo boon & it out DPS'd the rest of my attacks by 20k, so maybe he's not that bad

[wise ledge]

Who cares, the Typhon is still your final fight on every surface run

[devout cairn]

poseidon is great, I love his attack boon

[prisma monolith]

they literally asked? perhaps they care?

[fringe linden]

ik Melinoe Black Coat is probably the best Poseidon weapon but it felt good

[buoyant matrix]

typhon is REAL TO ME and i will NOT take medication

[meager garden]

wait I love your pfp

[toxic hedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/922839614148993086/1421609894972493854/1145350_653.jpg?ex=68d9a8e3&is=68d85763&hm=1b12c38cf8eddaf9e072877eecf555e82cc7acdc0e83a48326b544596b60e292&

I love Dionysius

[rough sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5FkEvfVMU0&list=LL&index=10 they need to make this meme but change it to facing the stages and Typhon for first time

[spare tinsel]

i dont think they care about the semantics of typhon being real or not, i think they just want to know if typhon is still a boss fight at the end of the run

[prisma monolith]

i missinterpreted the question then

[slim pike]

The status quo of a run is god

[toxic hedge]

Also Lowkey weird how Dionysius still doesn't have the background art for his dialogues like other characters. Is it a bug or intentional?

[fluid pagoda]

basically, almost all weapons with poseidon is godlike (no jk intended lol)

[slim pike]

Hel is the best posideon weapon and it isn't even close

[fringe linden]

im not usually a fan, or at least wasn't in EA. was he buffed for 1.0 or is he just better than i give credit?

[cobalt flint]

True

[tiny apex]

Wait complaining made it so I got it on my next attempt haha

[nimble seal]

Is there any way to keep the god mode damage reduction on, but keep it from gaining anymore? I'm at a sweet spot where I'm enjoying it, but I feel like if it goes up any more it'll be too easy.

[slim pike]

He was never bad

[prisma monolith]

Frinos jumpscare

[tiny apex]

Personally a fan of Aphrodite on axe and blades

[meager garden]

there is a setting to set your limit, I think

[slim pike]

Yes. There's a slider

[oak anchor]

Has anyone figured out how to re unlock Great Chaos Above?

[cobalt quest]

It doesn't increase if you stop dying? I think?

[fluid pagoda]

true true, but highly depending of Aspects used.

[toxic hedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/922839614148993086/1421609894481498112/1145350_655.jpg?ex=68d9a8e3&is=68d85763&hm=69c2213f019dffa254805922116847d6363d5418297cdbfd0e4bdcf0a6a0ea1c&

And ||what do you mean I can't visit the House of Zeus anymore||? I loved that song from ||Apollo||

[nimble seal]

i said I was enjoying it, not that I'm not still terrible at the game

[tiny apex]

I use ||Thanatos and the morrow||

[halcyon trench]

Yeah i thought i was tripping i see neither now

[prisma monolith]

same way you cant back to greece in h1

[toxic hedge]

And also I'll never stop glazing Prometheus's design from game. Definitely the most favourite one for me

[meager garden]

his new vfx on his portrait are gorgeous

[oak anchor]

I have Great Chaos Below, but not Great Chaos Above. Not sure what I have for below that I don’t have for above.

[meager garden]

I think the shine is a bit much for some gods but it's great on him

[fluid pagoda]

Aphro is the best for them indeed.
For ||Morrigan and Pan||, pick Poseidon (mostly because it multihitting)

[elfin heron]

also the new boon vfx are so cool

[cobalt quest]

Im not mocking you, im just saying that as far as I know, you only get easier runs if you die with god mode on, so if you don't die, I assume it doesn't make your runs easier

[toxic hedge]

Yes because there was no reason for zag to go there anymore since Persephone came back :(

LET ME HRAR THAT SONG

[prisma monolith]

wdym whos gonna tend the garden1?

[halcyon trench]

Ima get his can't be broken quote tatted on me one day

[toxic hedge]

Aphrodite. Aint no other better god for this

[meager garden]

you can just set your % now though

[cobalt quest]

Ah sorry misunderstood ur 2nd message 😂 yeah I don't know if that has extra sliders, other guys will give you better info

[fluid pagoda]

ask ||Medea||

[halcyon trench]

If anyone figures it out, lmk? /gen

[devout cairn]

my favorite design in both games, they cooked with Prometheus

[toxic hedge]

Zag does that. You didn't heard that zag died by hitting a rack to his face because he stepped on it like a tom and jerry episode?

[fluid pagoda]

i don't really like to fight him, but it's a good definition of "get gud" honestly

especially with ||VoR||

[prisma monolith]

the prom vor fight is my fav

[toxic hedge]

It feels like they've removed Great Chaos Above because I think they would've added achievements for both otherwise

[prisma monolith]

its still there

[night abyss]

is scorch still the second worst thing to have on your attack or not anymore?

[fluid pagoda]

it's my least fav so far for me (even for Kronos)

my most fav VoR fight is Scylla (of course) and Polym.

[buoyant matrix]

scorch is good now

[night abyss]

oh, what did they change?

[prisma monolith]

xd

[toxic hedge]

People hated Scorch?

I still find it funny that goddess of Hearth has better aggressive options then a literal God of War. WHAT makes it even more funny is that Ares had a good boon and they gave it to Hestia 😂😂

[prisma monolith]

at launch scorch was pretty bad

[buoyant matrix]

it was abysmally bad for a long time in early access

[oblique walrus]

|| its two of these in front and back to spoil friend

[night abyss]

scorch was pretty bad in the beta, yeah

[prisma monolith]

whoever is tryign to spoiler put it twice, beginning and end ||

[west berry]

they removed a trial?

[fluid pagoda]

Scorch is meh. I just love the Legendary bound of it, nothing else.

[prisma monolith]

no

[night abyss]

what did they change to scorch?

[toxic hedge]

I cannot confirm yet but it feels like it given that there is an achievement for great chaos below but not for above

[minor stirrup]

OMG why does one of ||Circe's pigs|| have a distressed expression and an anchor tattoo 🤣 My sides

[oblique walrus]

the random chaos trials got relocked cause I assume you need the 3 new keepsakes

[tiny apex]

interesting. i use aphro on ||morrigan as well (i typo'd and meant morrigan when i said morrow|| seems pretty strong imo

[prisma monolith]

i can confirm it exists

[oak anchor]

Ohhhhhh

[prisma monolith]

is just significantly harder than below so it makes sense no achievement

[oblique walrus]

they still exist you just need to unlock them again

[fluid pagoda]

well, ||Circe|| is knowed to ||curse sailors, just like Scylla||

[west berry]

i think the chaos trials have so much potential

[devout cairn]

i hate ares' plasma gimmick, I have a hard time noticing the Wound damage so I don't wanna disregard that just yet but so far it feels underwhelming

[buoyant matrix]

increased scorch dealt on attack and special boon, removed the anti synergy boon that depleted all scorch at 300 and dealt half the damage, increased natural tick rate to 100 dps

[minor stirrup]

Ahahaha, that makes perfect sense, no wonder he's distressed

[random lintel]

his legendary boon may help with that...

[toxic hedge]

I hate saying this but doom in Hades 1 was war better than wounds in h2

[loud python]

i found a TYPOOOOO

[west berry]

either with replayability and with randomizer too

[buoyant matrix]

there are a few in the game

[night abyss]

Oh yeah, that tick rate I don't understand, so it's 100 always? why does it change tho? for example, this flame strike at lvl 2 does 75 scorch damage

[fluid pagoda]

true true

[desert hound]

guys how do you do bitter tears quest ?the one to get the drop of cerberus with the intent to boil it

[west berry]

too bad you cant replay trial as far as i know

[loud python]

super giant hire me as a proofreader i would never let this slide

[tulip comet]

It's good. Takes a lot of runs to get resources. So much silver

[prisma monolith]

sure you can

[vagrant mauve]

I got the endings, 10/10 game

[rough pivot]

||gift in the fountain room after Erebus and complete infernal contract twice in midshops||

[west berry]

im guessing it unlocks later on

[buoyant matrix]

75 scorch is 75 damage, it takes 0.75 seconds for the enemy to take said damage

[violet gull]

waaaaaaait. it need to be 3 in the row, sad

[desert hound]

nvm found it

[fluid pagoda]

you got this one? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332559238580535357/1421603913324433438/image.png?ex=68d9a351&is=68d851d1&hm=7e06a0722fcce73b395789a80ee9f8950ee942c18371a9ca28d59a0a38f2c549&

[toxic hedge]

Lemme see early access vids to see how bad it was

[cobalt quest]

God of plasma...

[vagrant mauve]

I got the ending where ||chronos became a good grandpa||

[fluid pagoda]

spoil it plz

[vagrant mauve]

There

Now I'm damn tired

[rough pivot]

Turning off rolls and using at least 2 of the 3 new keepsakes + turning on excellence feels like the meta now lowk

[fluid pagoda]

Ok, i can tell you: ||Welcome to the endgame. You're not ready for whats come next||

[vagrant mauve]

1 year of progress and all testaments down

[west berry]

athena appeared after i killed everything in the encounter , cmon athena be better

[violet gull]

||guys, just tell me. To find fates i need to use Zagreus keepsake 3 times in a row and die? I don't want to repeatedly try it with his keepsake and then do it again with someone's else||

[vagrant mauve]

Ik, it's been the same in hades 1

[slim pike]

Wrong keepsake

[fluid pagoda]

Moros' one, and yes.
||Avoid death 3 times in a row, and die the 4th||

[rough pivot]

||moros keepsake in oceanus, trigger it in 3 rooms in a row, clear the first 2 but die in the 3rd one||

[devout cairn]

guess that's a motivation to try to do an Ares run

[violet gull]

Moros one? It literally makes no sense, but thank you

[meager canyon]

I'm so confused how do I get the Summoning of Musical Rhapsody incantation I can't find info anywhere

[fluid pagoda]

actually, yes. Check ||the Fates list||

[devout cairn]

wasnt Doom kinda of just okay too? I don't remember thinking that was very good

[rough pivot]

||it does say “our emissary” in the prophecy, makes perfect sense||

[devout cairn]

it has been like 4 years since i played hades 1 though

[vagrant mauve]

So hades 2 and silksong is a tie for me

[fluid pagoda]

Good. Because Hades 2 isnt H1. You'll feel a difference.

[vagrant mauve]

All I can say

[fluid pagoda]

Same.

[wintry mantle]

i underestimated the power of room start effects

[violet gull]

||i checked. It says "with keepsake from our friend in Oceanus. And Moros isn't their friend. He is their subling. brother if you want. And Zagreus makes way more sence as a friend. Especially with his challenge appearing in oceanus||

i guess translation issues

[devout cairn]

I mentioned that because I don't remember if Doom from ares' boon was good in Hades 1 😅

[rough pivot]

He can also appear in erebus, so it’s not exclusive to oceanus

[fluid pagoda]

From my language (french), ||it said "our emissarry" which means litterally Moros.||

[cobalt quest]

Translation issues

[violet gull]

yeah, thank you guys. at least i can finish it now

[wise ledge]

It does though. ||Fates were sent to the shadow realm void. Void is where Moros finds you, and where you go during return to shadow. Moros is also their brother, so he has some connection to them. By activating his keepsake you establish connection to the void, and when you die you go into the void, into the correct coordinates||
And yes, originally it says "our emissary" iirc

[toxic hedge]

And this exactly shows how bad wounds is if doom is better than it

[cobalt quest]

He is emissary, not a friend 😂

[fluid pagoda]

translation issues from the game

[violet gull]

it is awful translation, what i can do if it misleads so hard

[cobalt quest]

Ask us

[rough pivot]

Wounds is much better than doom, wut

[violet gull]

literally what i did 😄

[rough pivot]

And we got a better version of doom in this game called blitz

[slim pike]

Blitz is better than wounds, yes

[prisma monolith]

i got the conversation between hecate and nemesis, does that mean i get to see nemesis above now?

[cobalt quest]

I spent so much time helping another guy figure out what he was doing wrong with that specific quest, and turned out (after like 2 hours) he just spoiled himself a way to finish the quest and tried to complete it before it appeared

[toxic hedge]

Anything is actually

[prisma monolith]

blitz is also like the best effect in the game

[rough pivot]

Wounds is better than doom too🤣

Literally best in slot on medea attack

[fluid pagoda]

hmmmm. Burn is beyond godlike imo

[meager garden]

glow is better than wounds?

[wise ledge]

I actually wonder if you get some interesting dialogue if you do that sequence before getting the quest