h2-discussion

[twin apex]

this doesn't look like a hades 2 discussion...

[glossy beacon]

I think UK and Australia and New Zealand are the only places its not frowned upon because I know in europe its diliked

[raven perch]

They’re British it’s fine

[twin apex]

don't boo me, i'm not complaining i'm just wondering what i just walked into rn

[robust basin]

Afaik in the UK it is normal insult like bastard or something... In Australia it is a positive word. that's the crazy part!

[glossy beacon]

Feks sake i Cannot verify my bloody age with this terrible verfication thing

[robust basin]

You can start a Hades discussion. Everyone here is happy to switch at any time

Even though I haven't played in 3 weeks... So much SS

[twin apex]

i just beat SS so now i'm waiting for the hades drop

[robust basin]

Oh god... Use an AI generated id

[robust basin]

So cool... I still have some bosses to defeat... I'm not a good gamer

[glossy beacon]

i did the face scan it completes nothing happens and it wont focus on my id because of the stupid hologram

[wintry dagger]

Identified User as: Hologram
Error
Holograms Not Permitted to Discord

[bleak viper]

i really hope theres an achivement for getting one of arachne dresses to chronos

[meager garden]

there is

[orchid acorn]

^

[bleak viper]

WE ARE SO WINNING

[turbid walrus]

Question, why do people seem to say the circe staff is the best weapon? Haven’t tried it yet but is it just cuz of the double cast?

[orchid acorn]

well for starters, medea is the best weapon

this isn't a debate

circe is arguably 2nd best though for sure

[bleak viper]

ngl i've been playing whats fun

[turbid walrus]

In that case what is it for medea? Just good dmg output ig?

[orchid acorn]

reasons being

• doubling casts is insane for dps, with all of the t2 boons that upgrade your cast
• aoe is always good, and this lets you get two aoes
• or instead of more AOE you just overlap them

[twin apex]

i'm still a full moros supporter. medea is obviously the strongest, but i legit think moros is the 2nd

[turbid walrus]

So far I’ve just been using the daggers ngl, but wanting to basically understand the pros of different ones

[robust basin]

There is... A haephestus run😭

[orchid acorn]

medea is good because

• extremely simple to play
• high mobility, effectively giving you 2 dashes
• high % damage boosts innately, letting you kill things VERY fast
• two near simultanious hits with special>attack detonating after eachother constantly so you can do stuff like blitz or wounds effectively

[bleak viper]

It’s all good I love all of his boons

[orchid acorn]

only downside is that you are the projectile so you can take damage very easily

you trade safety for being a mobile nuke

[robust basin]

The moment Medea clicks the other skulls feel so garbage... Then you uncover Hel, and it's a whole new paradise

[polar abyss]

Kind of like Sister Blades, but without the damage. /s

[robust basin]

• Cast bug

[candid nimbus]

I honestly like all skulls, they feel neat, but yeah, Medea is its own different league

I like Persephone the most though

[turbid walrus]

Okay makes decent sense, I’m gonna play around with it to get the hang of it i suppose, such a different style compared to other weapon attacks

[orchid acorn]

cast bug is relevant but not really at large.

[robust basin]

Good hammers

[robust basin]

EXACTLY AND IT IS SO COOL!

[robust basin]

Oh!

[orchid acorn]

like literally almost doubling zeus cast damage is insane but its not like THE REASON to build around the aspect

plus it was the best weapon before we even knew this existed

[mild pilot]

guys any tips to play in release date for tons of hours without getting eye strain?

[orchid acorn]

roll better genetics

[oak ivy]

take frequent breaks is the best advice

like take a 10 minute break every run

that's the best thing you can do for your eyes

[robust basin]

Eye drops. Lower luminosity of the screen. Disregard health

[merry whale]

my eyes will go down when i tell them to go down

[lost wing]

also can consider something like a yellow filter

[orchid acorn]

piss filter from mexico hades 2 edition

[oak ivy]

oh yeah, something like Flux is great!!!

the less blue light the better it is for your eyes

[robust basin]

Wow... Lilac with actual health advice... Are you called Alice in real life? Because she also seldom followed her own advice...

[oak ivy]

😭 lmaoooooo

[robust basin]

Does it actually work?

[oak ivy]

yep!

[robust basin]

Wow

[oak ivy]

blue light is what's the most damaging to our eyes, so having an orange filter on your screen helps A LOT

[robust basin]

Wow... I like the idea of bloody Mel

[lost wing]

in a friend's experience, yes. I haven't used one personally

[maiden salmon]

Is it Thursday yet?

[oak ivy]

why is it so common for people to appear here, ask a question and then disappear immediately 😭

[robust basin]

Because they aren't cave goblins like ourselves

[oak ivy]

😔 damn

[lost wing]

healthy boundaries on their time?

[robust basin]

And also they are very rude

[oak ivy]

is it healthy to ask a question and leave instantly? you don't even get to read the replies to your question??

[robust basin]

Hmmm... Saying thank you would be appreciated

[lost wing]

tbh I'm not even sure which individual you're talking about and I definitely haven't clocked when someone has joined or left the server, so 🤷

[oak ivy]

the person asking about eye strain

they came in, asked the question and just disappeared

[lost wing]

I can't take this seriously after the WH incident 💀

[orchid acorn]

you scared them off

[oak ivy]

ohh good

[lost wing]

did they? just clicked view profile or w/e and it doesn't have anything that suggests they aren't a member of the server anymore i don't think

[oak ivy]

no I mean they disappeared from the chat

not from the server entirely

[orchid acorn]

i see mutual server still

[scenic jungle]

I think some people just kinda lurk

[lost wing]

maybe they're just gonna check it later?

does this matter? lol

[oak ivy]

yeah maybe

[oak ivy]

it really doesn't matter AT ALL, I am simply pondering

[robust basin]

What happened?💀

[orchid acorn]

though honestly im seeing a linktree in their bio so maybe it was just a bot add

then again they have some interesting art on twitter https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaXQTgRWUAAg8kb?format=jpg&name=medium

[brave urchin]

[orchid acorn]

ofc luna shows up

[brave urchin]

WHAT?

[lost wing]

https://imgur.com/a/9K3FzyI 😆

[oak ivy]

😳 😳 😳

[orchid acorn]

honestly probably a bot they keep posting the same messages on twitter on repeat

idk

[oak ivy]

what bot would come here to ask a question about eye strain though...

[robust basin]

Which message?

[robust basin]

A smart one

[orchid acorn]

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[robust basin]

They catfished pronto

[maiden salmon]

I really want to see what Selene's model looks like when she visits the Crossroads.

[robust basin]

Oh god...

[orchid acorn]

honestly i was expecting onlyfans when i saw the linktree

[oak ivy]

omg you're right it IS a bot

[orchid acorn]

only reason i clicked

[robust basin]

Ahyes she was always cloaked!!!

[oak ivy]

@lost wing see I was right!!! there WAS something up with that person

[brave urchin]

LOL

[robust basin]

That is a harmful stereotype! U_U

[orchid acorn]

also they have a lot of furry art

[brave urchin]

The dead internet theory gets realer every day.

[scenic jungle]

Ayo

[oak ivy]

you're so right 😭

a clever strategy to ask a random question like that sort of makes sense...... so we'd never suspect.....

[raven perch]

big horse moments

[orchid acorn]

is it though

like a solid 90% of linktrees i have ever seen in my life go to onlyfans/patreon/fansly etc sites

[scenic jungle]

I see most people use linktree for socials but maybe different conmunity

[orchid acorn]

maybe like 80% generously

[scenic jungle]

I feel like patreon is a bit different than an onlyfans link

[orchid acorn]

issue is its usually for their nsfw art

[scenic jungle]

I never really think about it much because I follow alot of nsfw stuff already

[robust basin]

At this point I don't understand. The Mel art doesn't look like AI...

[sleek oar]

What is happeninh

[robust basin]

EXACTLY MY VISION!

[plain shale]

I got the vow of rivals what does that do tldr

[scenic jungle]

Extreme measures

[robust basin]

Maybe because you don't engage with a lot of visual artists but mostly with a different type of artists 🤔

[sleek oar]

Its like extreme measures

Just a different harder version of the boss

[orchid acorn]

idk instagram captions, discord bots(like above) etc

different sources, same result

[robust basin]

It's soon going to change because of visa and MasterCard 😭

[orchid acorn]

but i don't really engage with art that much so

[sleek oar]

Normal ppl use linktrees

[scenic jungle]

Unfortunately

[orchid acorn]

maybe reg people do use it for good

[robust basin]

Exactly

[orchid acorn]

i just always see "check my links below ⬇️
(porn)
(porn free trial)

[raven perch]

Eh even if they do use it to link to their nsfw feeds that’s not inherently problematic

[scenic jungle]

The world sucks but at least hades 2 is only 3 days away ✨

[shadow tulip]

So true

[orchid acorn]

2 days 22 hours 36 minutes

[lost wing]

https://tenor.com/view/see-nothing-hear-nothing-know-nothing-gif-4351550

[oak ivy]

lmaooo

[maiden salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520

[raven perch]

It’s never coming out

[robust basin]

Lol it ain't gta6 or SS

[plain shale]

Oh ok

[vital hollow]

Wait, crazy idea, What if once you complete the story in 1.0 the final bosses completely change to better reflect you defeating Chronos and Typhon. And if you want to access the old fights, you can go to the Pitch Black Stone and do an 'old' run through a chaos trial.

[raven perch]

Maybe!

I don’t think they’d change the boss fights in any remarkable way outside of VoR

[robust basin]

Yeah we did think of this, but the UI would be affected and so it is unlikely

[vital hollow]

I mean, I'm just wondering how are we still going to fight the Titans if we completely remove their immortality acording to the story

[oak ivy]

wait Haelian is streaming with Amir right now???

whaaaaat

[orchid acorn]

amir is in 240p 😭

[oak ivy]

😭 Idk why

[orchid acorn]

feel like there is a meme there

[oak ivy]

I can't think of any...

[orchid acorn]

6ft vs 5'11 referencing the quality meme

[oak ivy]

omg Amir and Haelian both said they like Blue prince !!!!!!

[orchid acorn]

blue prince

[oak ivy]

it's sooo goood

[merry whale]

remind me to watch the vod later

[orchid acorn]

same i gotta watch it at 2x speed

[meager garden]

blue prince is cool

[orchid acorn]

way too little yapping and not enough gameplayto stimulate me

[oak ivy]

it's one of the best mystery games out there for sure!

[meager garden]

I wish blue prince had better pacing, I guess

[raven perch]

Somebody ask if they’ve played silksong

[vital hollow]

Honestly, I'm glad I didn't play Blue Prince, some of those puzzles were way too complicated for me. Watching someone else was good enough for me

[meager garden]

Once you open your first couple ||moon doors|| the amount of puzzles is kind of a trickle

[oak ivy]

I mean getting to room 46 is doable enough on your own! but beyond that yeah it's pretty rough

[robust basin]

Yeah... Unless we put the whole crossroads in the stone as well🤔

[meager garden]

also blue prince needs an in game notebook

idk how you'd do it for consoles but itd be so nice on pc

[robust basin]

Hades 2 at double speed is crazy

Haelian doesn't even speak that slow🤣

[oak ivy]

I hate haelian why does he troll us 😭😭😭

[orchid acorn]

i watch basically everything not a tv show at 2x speed

at minimum 1.5x

[meager garden]

ok zoomer

[orchid acorn]

im not though

[meager garden]

fried

[robust basin]

Me too! I also dreamt at 2x speed after I started doing it... T_T

[robust basin]

It is more boomer behaviour "time is fleeting and I cannot waste 30 minutes on this video... But 15 maybe"

The grind is real

[meager garden]

I dont even think so boomers are retired and trying to veg out

[cursive kayak]

i only speed a video up if they’re like doing that annoying YouTuber thing of stretching a video to ten minutes by dragging out their words

[orchid acorn]

its more the fact that some people speak. .... so.... slowly and now i attribute that to everyone since i make the slow people speaklikethis so now the regular speakers are slow

[meager garden]

Existence is already overstimulating for them

[orchid acorn]

pisses me off when i click on music after though and i still have it set at 1.5x

[raven perch]

I find it hard enough to find videos worth watching

[meager garden]

I actually enjoy speaking slowly and deliberately, it almost always makes their speech more clear

[wintry dagger]

Dev Team when the Launch Hades 2 button is the same as the Nerf Medea button

[bleak viper]

Getting back to back sea star hits feel amazing

[cursive kayak]

there is a difference between speaking deliberately aaaand speaaaking liiikee thisssssss

[meager garden]

lets go gambling!

[orchid acorn]

enunciation is for nerds start spitting

[oak ivy]

Amir said that they don't plan things ahead much........ 😭
and instead they assess how the development is going and make decisions more reactively apparently

[orchid acorn]

i can believe it

[raven perch]

NO KIDDING

[orchid acorn]

look at the entirety of the unseen balance patch

[raven perch]

Making us do all the work

[meager garden]

imagine what this game would be like without early access lmao

[orchid acorn]

nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf nerff

[orchid acorn]

see release hades 2 and .... it was pretty good

[oak ivy]

it was in reference to duo boons in Hades 1 in particular.. they were like "yeah we'll try putting these in, if ppl like them I guess we'll make more of them, if not, we'll delete them" 😭

[orchid acorn]

like clear issues looking back but honestly i think EA release axe aspects were in a better spot than they are now

[raven perch]

It was fun! Not perfect (looking at zeus) but good

[meager garden]

thats so much work for "we'll see if ppl like them"

[oak ivy]

I thought they had more of a deliberate design vision......

[raven perch]

That’s so funny

[wintry dagger]

Shiva after getting bounces to become viable:

[orchid acorn]

axe

• has block and not a useless button you only press to animation cancel
• mel axe has innate attack speed
• thanatos has global crit
• charon exists and is broken with hearthrobs

all is right in the world

[raven perch]

They didn’t have their ending written when releasing ea

[oak ivy]

OMG 😭 WTH

HOWWWWWWWW??????????

[meager garden]

wtf

[raven perch]

I KNOWWWWW

[oak ivy]

that's insane............................

[cursive kayak]

just being like “🤷‍♀️ we’ll see” instead of intentional deliberate design is baffling to me. my anxious self could never

[raven perch]

It’s unfathomable

[cursive kayak]

???????????

[orchid acorn]

i mean lets be real here

it was absolutely written but its not WRITTEN

[oak ivy]

HOW DO YOU NOT PLAN AHEAD

[orchid acorn]

aka in stone being implemented etc

[raven perch]

It’s possible they had it outlined but they said they didn’t have it

[orchid acorn]

that was what that interview was talking about

[oak ivy]

Toby Fox is like the opposite of SGG then... Toby literally planned everything back in 2012 honestly lmaooo

[orchid acorn]

not "lol idk we just finished this current build and said ship it"

[meager garden]

they are artists

[robust basin]

The sped up podcast jingle is funny

[raven perch]

Let’s hope

[merry whale]

they just like me fr

[robust basin]

Yeah... Wish I had that

[distant sail]

Does my saves will go to version 1.0

[raven perch]

Yes

[cursive kayak]

yes

[oak ivy]

Amir said the plural of "early access" is "early acci" 😭

[wintry dagger]

I think it's because there were two ways this story could go, and one of them leads into a possible Hades 3 ||where dialogue released in later EA patches, especially revolving around Prometheus, suggests rebellion against the gods in a follow-up title||

[distant sail]

thank you guys

[raven perch]

they’re not doing a hades 3

[oak ivy]

they're DEFS not doing a hades 3

[cursive kayak]

early excess was right there

[raven perch]

Nope

[meager garden]

we're gonna make a world where hades lives forever

[oak ivy]

I'd be extremely disappointed if they actually made Hades 3

[raven perch]

Me too

[maiden salmon]

All your Zodiac Sand and Lenses will be turned into currency for decorating though in order for you to experience the story properly.

[raven perch]

Get over it. Move on

[meager garden]

Supergiant is now the Hades company

1 million more hades

[orchid acorn]

i'd get over it cause MORE HADES

[robust basin]

That is a way of doing things. The valve way also. You need to test things as soon as possible to understand what to do and not waste time and resources. It is a savage land

[wintry dagger]

Born in Another World: I Can't Believe Hades Hates All My Decorative Choices - The Gacha

[raven perch]

But you should at least have a solid vision to use as foundation for these valve type changes

[maiden salmon]

Hades 2 feels like it's going to have a very firm conclusion to everything with lasting consequences.

[cursive kayak]

i agree yeah

[oak ivy]

I guess I personally don't like it at all, that's not how I'd do things if I was a lead in a game company, I love planning things out ahead of time too much

[meager garden]

I'm excited for Hades 3 reloaded

[raven perch]

Speaking of which, it has been said that Thanatos was not initially intended to be a love interest

[robust basin]

In the design/art world you risk getting lost very easily without feedback. Take it from an expert! U_U

[oak ivy]

I'm not saying to not listen to feedback

[robust basin]

There are too many options!

[oak ivy]

I'm saying to not compromise on your vision!

[orchid acorn]

gee i wonder why

[meager garden]

yeah! buff medea!

[oak ivy]

what do you mean?

[raven perch]

Cuz Than is your brother

[orchid acorn]

the whole half brother incest thing

[oak ivy]

oh

[cursive kayak]

i think there’s a balance of planning things out and reactionary fixes. because if something works on paper and doesn’t work in practice, and you’ve written every single dialogue and dialogue tree and situation that happens with it already, then that’s time and money down the drain when it doesn’t get implemented.

[orchid acorn]

but not really cause now its step half brother

[oak ivy]

right.....

[cursive kayak]

im sure they have enough of an outline

[robust basin]

Well, yes ofc, but imagine you have this clear vision and when you develop it it is just not fun, and 6 months of dev time are now gone

[orchid acorn]

lilac is willing to look over incest, more news at 11

[oak ivy]

I forgor................

😭 meow...

[raven perch]

Forgot not to swear

That’s why you have playtesters

[meager garden]

can someone playtest dyno

[raven perch]

I miss when dyno was dead

[oak ivy]

same...

I am so sick of dyno let's invite EVERYONE to the sherma server

[cursive kayak]

i mean yeah I agree. playtesters are incredibly important. and i think planning everything out is also better in the long term.

[raven perch]

All 100,000 people

[robust basin]

Start doing art and you will see how it goes... Also everyone is different. Maybe you can work as a planner? As opposed to a pantser.
Also I think it is clear the plot and story is clearly written ahead, it is the game mechanics that aren't.
Because you cannot predict fun

[raven perch]

I do do art mate

Lilac is currently studying art, and I used to study art

[oak ivy]

I am literally an art major yep...

[meager garden]

hehe do do

[hollow iron]

3 more days lesgo

[raven perch]

Ill kill you

[oak ivy]

And I've studied a good bit of gamedev on my own too!!!!

[raven perch]

I have not!

[meager garden]

is anyone here not an art person

[oak ivy]

Programming is very difficult 😔

[raven perch]

Pronto

[robust basin]

You are missing the point. Imagine you have a plan that you invested a lot of time to create, but the moment you try it you only get bad feedback. That time is gone now.

[robust basin]

I don't think they ever did

[orchid acorn]

what d id i do

[raven perch]

That’s kinda how it works sometimes, when you make art it’s not gonna be for everyone

[oak ivy]

that's a skill issue! you should get feedback sooner then and adjust accordingly without compromising on your vision

[raven perch]

You’re not an art person

[orchid acorn]

o ye for sure.

[oak ivy]

that too!

[orchid acorn]

i enjoy art but thats about it.

[robust basin]

Always copy your message before hitting send

[orchid acorn]

or yknow

not be stupid and just press ctrl z

[meager garden]

you enjoy art?

[raven perch]

There’s nothing wrong with EA! I think it’s very good actually. But to admit that you don’t have your ending written before shipping it out is insane

[oak ivy]

you often choose to risk things and make a more artistic creative thing or take a safe road and do something that's popular that will actually succeed for sure

[meager garden]

you cant feedback your story's ending until its already out

[robust basin]

And you plan every single thing and never let you be carried?

[oak ivy]

SGG did the former with Pyre, it flopped...
then they did the latter with Hades by making it a rogue like + EA and it worked

[wet hull]

I always think you take that too literally. if it's totally outlined, which I have the impression it was, then...?

[orchid acorn]

pyre had more issues lets e be real

[oak ivy]

but Pyre was a much more impactful experience!!

[raven perch]

You’ll see 😔

[robust basin]

I was saying that to lilac but now I am in awe with everyone here!

[cursive kayak]

ive helped my friends make a game and intend on going into gamedev as a career. for my personal project which i hope to make someday, im planning on writing everything out first. granted, some things will inevitably shift, and i will have to deal with that when it comes up, but I prefer having a solid foundation that makes it easier to adjust things when needed

not saying that’s not what sgg has done, i don’t know what happens behind the scenes. but that’s my philosophy anyway.

also hella playtesting

[meager garden]

Hades was a lot more impactful to their wallets

[oak ivy]

yeah I acknoweldged that

[merry whale]

ye prob ideally just a mega rough provisional outline of the main beats

[robust basin]

Yeah ok, but the problem is fun. You cannot plan for fun.

[orchid acorn]

i am convinced that if they actually voiced pyre correctly it would've been a bigger hit

[merry whale]

the ending should prob be one of those main beats but i trust 1.0 will be cool

[meager garden]

we need a pyre hd remaster

with funky mode

[robust basin]

It doesn't have to be. Look at SS sitting at 80% on steam. The point is that it should be for someone

[merry whale]

maybe sgg's 6th game will have two words in the title

[meager garden]

isnt that because the chinese translation sucks

[robust basin]

Again about vision... Why do you think they compromised their vision?

[raven perch]

It should! It’s for you the creator

[robust basin]

WAIT ACTUALLY?????

When did I miss that?

[meager garden]

bruh

[oak ivy]

lmao............

[wet hull]

it was in a pretty early interview

[orchid acorn]

im of the opinion that meow is taking it way too literally but yeah it was in the ..... 100 questions with hades 2 devs i think?

[oak ivy]

sadberry straight up not reading our messages 😭

[robust basin]

Original Hades was bad... Thank god they changed

[orchid acorn]

https://youtu.be/ubzq814bwsw this i think

[merry whale]

the source is that i made it the up

[meager garden]

bro was fighting a war they didnt know the sides of

[raven perch]

I am probably taking it too literally lol

[wet hull]

but I don't think it means that it was NOT PLANNED like they knew what would be in it, they just hadn't put the words down

[raven perch]

We’ll have to see

[wet hull]

I say "they" I think it's just greg

[raven perch]

Ough

[orchid acorn]

ok i just relistened to this

[robust basin]

I need to Google it

[raven perch]

They just sent the link

[orchid acorn]

and the question was

"How many endings do you need to get the hades 2 true ending"

to which the response was
"we don't know cause we havent made it yet we are still working on many parts of it

[robust basin]

I got into the convo at the dual boons part!😭 I thought we were talking about game mechanics!!!

[raven perch]

SEEE

[robust basin]

I'm sorry everyone

[orchid acorn]

meow this is anti your point 😭

[robust basin]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[robust basin]

Wait that is not the same as not knowing the ending as everyone was saying

[orchid acorn]

this translates to "we don't know cause we haven't decided the mechanics of the game of which to give an answer to how many runs" cause at this point they only had thessaly done

[raven perch]

Not everyone, just me

[orchid acorn]

and on top of taht it confirms its being actively workshopped

[raven perch]

The “we’re still working on many parts of it” shows that they didn’t have certain parts finished

[orchid acorn]

correct and you're taking that part way too badly. They can't know it cause they didnt have surface done

[wet hull]

I wonder what they're referring to as "true ending" here, credits or epilogue?

[meager garden]

do you guys think sgg are like me and havent written the ending of 1.0 yet

and are gonna do it on the 24th

[raven perch]

But surely they knew what the surface would have

[robust basin]

But again. Not having settled on how to have the ending play out, is very different from "we don't know/didn't knowhow the game would end "

[orchid acorn]

that being said through literal technical test datamines(That i can speak about since its in the game now) we knew the final boss was typhon over a year before he was in the game

[oak ivy]

wow this was the shortest conversation EVER.... amir left in like 30 minutes 😭

[merry whale]

dw gerson boom told me that we have the power to write our own ending

[raven perch]

Well of course

HAELIAN?

[oak ivy]

Haelian 😭

[orchid acorn]

so very clearly the game was outlined they just don't have an answer to "how many runs will the game take"

that entire take is so out of context meow and you ran with it 😭

[oak ivy]

haelian accidentally called Amir Mommy?? 😭 😭 😭

[raven perch]

But that’s my point, they knew it would be Typhon but they didn’t know what the ending would be like? How does that track

[oak ivy]

What is this freudian slip 😭

[merry whale]

mother amir

[broken glen]

Accidentally?

[polar abyss]

Lilac, why is this the first thing I see when I look at #h2-discussion ?

[orchid acorn]

reread the question meow

[raven perch]

I did admit that I’m taking it too literally! I’m notoriously uncharitable

[polar abyss]

What happened?

[meager garden]

why didnt sgg just read the hades wiki to learn how to make the game, it already has all the info???

[merry whale]

i have been a bad child but i don't think i deserve five clanger hyperspeed auto seekers in my room

[candid geode]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-bart-grandpa-hat-leaving-gif-4991453

[oak ivy]

blame haelian not me!!!!

[orchid acorn]

"How many runs will it take to beat hades 2

"We don't know(how many runs it will take)"

[raven perch]

The question is “how many run completions” and the answer is “we don’t know, we’re still working on some parts.” They weren’t still working on the Typhon implementation into the narrative so what were they working on?

[meager garden]

theyre literally me

[polar abyss]

It was a question

[wet hull]

the questions is "how many runs"

[oak ivy]

the answer is I don't know 😔

[candid geode]

the answer is why many runs

[raven perch]

Yeah that’s what I meant

[orchid acorn]

Exacthttps://imgur.com/dQrFZWB

[oak ivy]

that interview was sooo nothing 💔
amir didn't say almost anything tangible 💔

[orchid acorn]

you edited it

[polar abyss]

Interview?

[meager garden]

did they confirm medea buffs

[oak ivy]

I was hoping for more inside knowledge!!!!

[raven perch]

Yeah because I miscommunicated lol

I knew what it was referring to I just said it wrong

[broken glen]

Medea buffs are implied

[wet hull]

but the actual number of runs is kind of a logistical thing and it's pretty far from the actual content of the ending

[broken glen]

It’s starving

[merry whale]

i'll edit a ytp of that vid trust

[oak ivy]

Amir if you're reading this, here's a real question!!!

are you thinking of making Pyre 2??? !!!!!!

[orchid acorn]

• cast bug made innate
• fixed the specialS text error by making it affect the omega special too

[meager garden]

good or else I'd boycott the game

[raven perch]

If it’s anything like H1 then I wouldn’t think so necessarily, but you’re right. My thing is also like, what else could they possibly need?

Were they waffling on whether entropy would be necessary? If so that means they didn’t have it finished

Because then they need to decide whether to implement the entropy collection system or not

[oak ivy]

Haelian had a chance to talk to Amir on stream

[robust basin]

Dude it's one year ago... There were too many moving parts before that...

[polar abyss]

When?

[meager garden]

mm waffles

[bleak viper]

Ik I missed the feed back window (and I’m hella sad about it) but it would be cool if you could talk to Jetty and Roxy if you have the Summon last slain foe hex + the no time limit

[orchid acorn]

literally 5 minute sago

[oak ivy]

30 minutes ago

[broken glen]

I just want them to make something original. The hades series is great, and I love seeing what they can do with Greek mythology, but their unconstrained worldbuilding is IMMACULATE

[raven perch]

That’s what I mean! If there were so many moving parts that they didn’t know for sure then it wasn’t fully visualized by that point

[oak ivy]

true!

[wet hull]

no one is arguing that they had it finished. but it clearly wasn't a situation where they had nothing planned. which you may not be arguing but saying "they didn't even have it finished" in the way that you do comes across that way

[oak ivy]

wait are you a secret cousin of Amir, Mir????

[cursive kayak]

brain hurt

[raven perch]

Then yeah, they definitely had something planned, I’m just arguing they didn’t have it fully conceptualized back then

[meager garden]

the incorect takeaway I will take away is that sgg didnt know the ending of hades until they wrote it

[wet hull]

I think you're the second person to make that joke 🤡

[candid geode]

amir and his cousin bmir

[raven perch]

They did know Hades 1 of course

[orchid acorn]

the real definition here is what do you mean by "fully conceptualized"

[oak ivy]

the fact that they don't plan that much ahead makes me even more worried about the ending of H2 being disappointing 😭

[raven perch]

Such as “how is this going to mechanically function” in a sense

[oak ivy]

lmao I'm sorry 😭

[raven perch]

With H1 it was “escape 10 times” but with H2 it’s much less clear.

[oak ivy]

amir and his cousin Togore !!!

[raven perch]

Because of the whole Entropy thing

[robust basin]

True... Do you know what the Devs of HK said when asked about death mechanics for the Knight? They said "surprise" but they later admitted they had no idea. It makes you question how much of the world was actually thought out as it is now.

[meager garden]

they chose wrong it should require 64 heat to get true ending

[candid geode]

i remember when i read how they originally were planning on hades to be more focused on theseus and the minotaur

[raven perch]

Ye ye

[raven perch]

That’s the concept stage that’s fine to be unclear about

[orchid acorn]

cause literally no videogame plot has the ENTIRE thing conceptualized that early

They have major story beats they want to hit ( ✅ we knew of typhon over a year pre his addition)
They have major characters that they know they want to touch on ✅ we have the initial flashbacks and hypnos, assuming he is relevant in the crossroads in the earliest playable builds

What else do you need

[candid geode]

yeah but it was still interesting to compare the game we know now

[raven perch]

It’s not that early if they were shipping it out

[candid geode]

the game to come out

[orchid acorn]

no mew, they didn't know that they needed exactly 13 of both resources to combine into entropy to wake hypnos to then give you a side quest to then trap chronos in that exact detail

[oak ivy]

Amir talk to us please 🥺
we're so much more fun to talk to in here!!!

[orchid acorn]

but they absolutely have had the story beats in concept art and storyboarding

[meager garden]

did they write the ending of hades 2 yet

[raven perch]

There’s no guarantee that hypnos will even be relevant

[meager garden]

or is that still a wip

[orchid acorn]

not yet, its gonna be post launch dlc

[merry whale]

they wrote your ending, september 25th count your days

[oak ivy]

yeah they're rushing the ending right now super quickly surely!!

[meager garden]

ok but thats the due date, did they finish it yet?

[orchid acorn]

me writing in the death note

"Meow, Heart attack september 25th 11:59AM EST"

[candid geode]

pronto thats not how that works

[wet hull]

greg isn't allowed to do interviews because he's in the back typing up a storm

[raven perch]

A better fate than having to play the game

[merry whale]

light that's not how the f-ing book works

[stuck kestrel]

hi friends, whats the upgrade for navigation support in the mourning fields called? i see yt videos where ppl can have arrows on their screen pointing them to where the items are

[cursive kayak]

oh oops LMAO

[oak ivy]

"Pronto, death in all the ways he threatened others with" 🤭

[orchid acorn]

something something golden bough

[candid geode]

tree

[stuck kestrel]

do u have to press and hold a keybind after to have it on?

[meager garden]

reviving a mournful husk

[robust basin]

I'm starting to think the situation is really dire

[meager garden]

an incantation at the cauldron

[orchid acorn]

you need to find the golden tree in the same place of the like 8 rooms that MF has and interact with it each run

that will reveal the loot in that level

[raven perch]

Wait how so

[stuck kestrel]

ah i see got you, thanks

[meager garden]

Hades 2 is getting a battle royale

[raven perch]

1 Mel vs 1000 Nems

[orchid acorn]

COOP LOOTER SHOOTER HADES 0.5 FIGHTING CHRONOS THE 1ST TIME RAAAAA

[robust basin]

That we actually have a bundle of chaos and loose ends and not a game?

[robust basin]

EZ clap

[meager garden]

you just noticed?

[cursive kayak]

nah they absolutely have an ending written

[meager garden]

I'm worried stuff isnt gonna get tied up awesome

[raven perch]

Well we have a game and it’s a really great game! But yeah the narrative is a bunch of knotted lines that I’m not so sure they’re going to unravel satisfyingly

[robust basin]

Exactly...

[raven perch]

Based on H1’s ending I’m notttt holding out that much hope

[cursive kayak]

im a bit nervous about some writing decisions and narrative aspects but we will have to see

[meager garden]

its why I'm more excited for gameplay changes lol

[robust basin]

Like if they did it and they really didn't have it planned last year it is crazy.

[orchid acorn]

ill be honest i don't really care much for the story cause it isn't really mind blowing me so far like how other games have so im more here for the gameplay

[raven perch]

They had something planned for sure, just not all of it of course

[meager garden]

moderate expectations for story

[cursive kayak]

they almost certainly had an idea for the ending since the beginning

[raven perch]

I’d hope so

Eeennnnnnn

[oak ivy]

yeah 😔

[robust basin]

Like Hypnos felt so wrong to me in the beginning... Then I thought it was a central plot line, and now I don't know what to think

[orchid acorn]

like e33 is peak

[raven perch]

I’m here for the story always, if a game has good gameplay but a bad story I’m not interested

[candid geode]

better live up to their goty poster boy

[robust basin]

A good gameplay with no story will never be memorable

[raven perch]

The crime Hades 2 commits is that it has great gameplay and a mediocre story . Which will always haunt me

[robust basin]

That is why people get angry

[orchid acorn]

i dunno if i'd call it mediorce

[raven perch]

We’ll see

[robust basin]

We'll see

[orchid acorn]

but its certainly.... mid? maybe slightly above average

[cursive kayak]

and also, to be fair we can’t say that rn definitively since the main through line is not in the game

[meager garden]

gameplay only games are memorable tho

[raven perch]

That’s what mediocre means 😭

[oak ivy]

Haunt... like the haunting...... like in silksong.................... 🥺

[robust basin]

Mid= mediocre?

[candid geode]

i think we just have to wait for the full release for the pieces to come together

[merry whale]

i saw a yt let's play of celeste where they actively skipped the dialogue

[robust basin]

Example?

[orchid acorn]

mediocre is below average

[raven perch]

Mediocre is average what

[robust basin]

That's just sad

[candid geode]

fornite

[merry whale]

literally

[meager garden]

I remember that clutch ass match of counterstrike from 8 years ago

[oak ivy]

mediocre AND mid both are SLIGHTLY below average in my view

[wet hull]

hypnos will get resolved in some way. we can't know whether it's a central plotline until the game comes out, but I don't think it necessarily has to be "central" for it to be a good resolution

[orchid acorn]

honestly thats just on me i didn't realize that was literally mediocre

[raven perch]

It doesn’t have to be central but if it’s completely unimportant I’m killing myself and then everyone in this room

[oak ivy]

I'd describe something average as "okay", not "mid"

[oak ivy]

will you leave me for last at least 🥺

[raven perch]

Yes pookie

[orchid acorn]

like to me mediocre is the like a 4/10 while mid is like 5-6

[raven perch]

Mediocre is 5/10 mid is 5-6/10

[robust basin]

Is it actually?

[cursive kayak]

i think the EA story has suffered bc the side relationships and story literally cannot tie back to the main plotline yet. it is possible they add extra dialogue to those relationships and tie it all together, but it’s not something we would have seen

[oak ivy]

mediocre and mid to me is 4/10
while "okay" is 5-6/10

[candid geode]

dont know
never played it

[raven perch]

Fortnite might be enjoyable I don’t think you can say it’s memorable though

[cursive kayak]

it’s hard to judge from this perspective when it’s clearly incomplete

[robust basin]

Yeah, but that is a challenge. It is not exactly the same

[merry whale]

hades eternally trapped in npc room,,

[robust basin]

You remember a challenge with friends or mutuals

[meager garden]

I think most of my memories of games are from experiences and not narratives

[candid geode]

i remember hecate beating me up

[raven perch]

That’s your experience that you’re remembering, not Counter Strike itself though

[robust basin]

It does not... We'll have to see

[sleek oar]

CS is hell i wont lie

[meager garden]

What is a game if not experiences though? Thats basically all they are, to me

[sleek oar]

You make a good point

[merry whale]

silksong is a game with an experience

[robust basin]

Lol

[meager garden]

one of the experiences of all time

[orchid acorn]

this is ALSO a reason to restart

[cursive kayak]

CS is also not a narrative heavy game as far as i know. different genres are memorable for different things

[merry whale]

experience points?

[candid nimbus]

Can you call it mediocre when it's not finished, though?

[raven perch]

Think of it like this: counter strike was the vehicle by which you had a memorable experience. If you had the same memorable experience in a different shooter you would still remember it fondly

Hades has a narrative. Remember the feeling you got seeing Zag climb to the surface the first time. A different story would not provide a similar experience

[sleek oar]

Red id your pfp from that new cartoon

[orchid acorn]

maybe you can literally wake up hypnos like night 30 or something

[oak ivy]

Execution points, you mean?

[merry whale]

ya knights of guinevere

[robust basin]

I still have nightmares of UR Hecate...

[cursive kayak]

like undertale and in stars and time are definitely most notable for the story, not the gameplay

[merry whale]

a way of quantifying the pain you have inflicted on others

[sleek oar]

Oooo i loved the pilot so much

[merry whale]

the more easily you can bring yourself to hurt others

the entire undertale script is ingrained into my mind

[oak ivy]

that's something to be proud of in my opinion

[robust basin]

Silksong is a game with a lot of pain. And a lot of song.
And maybe some silk.

[wet hull]

I would say for both of those that the story is inextricable from the gameplay

[merry whale]

yeaa dana terrace having absolute creative freedom is peak

[oak ivy]

Silksong has maybe 60% silk and 40% song

[cursive kayak]

that is very fair actually

idk different genres have different metrics is my point

[robust basin]

Good point... I will train 50 fear. If I can make it to chronos I will make a new save file

[cursive kayak]

59% silk 40% song 1% pet the dog

[robust basin]

So cool

Dana ate

[orchid acorn]

this chat at 1.0 https://content.imageresizer.com/images/memes/WHICH-SIDE-ARE-YOU-ON-meme-7.jpg

[merry whale]

fr, andi is peak

[robust basin]

Hmmmm... Because I need the silk to survive the pain....

[oak ivy]

but you also need pain to get the silk.... it's a neverending cycle of silk and pain and song 😔

[wet hull]

I don't disagree. if we're talking a visual novel then your experience really is mostly story whereas something like an fps is mostly an experience of gameplay (probably). but I don't think gameplay and narrative can be easily separated

[orchid acorn]

ugh im so bored i think im actually gonna play hollow knight 😔

[oak ivy]

Omg let's goooo

[robust basin]

I think there are some people b0rn in fire that can get silk with no pain

[oak ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-hornet-trobbio-dramatic-death-gif-4926813514533061211

[gritty ingot]

What’s the over under on a strength buff for 1.0

[orchid acorn]

i honestly cannot calculate that

[robust basin]

Io odio gli italiani

[oak ivy]

b0rn in fire?

....... say that again?

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[merry whale]

if they just make it 50/30 again without the cheeses it'll instantly be better

[orchid acorn]

it was never 50/30

[merry whale]

or 50/25 idk

[robust basin]

Hornet is so unresponsive compared to the knight... I'm suffering

[orchid acorn]

50/25 yes

also revert divinity thx

[merry whale]

but 50/30 to compensate for the lost cheeses, 5% tax

[orchid acorn]

hollow knight time i forgot what i was doing time to start a new file

[robust basin]

Almost... Fireb0rn

[oak ivy]

you still havent finished the game? 😭

[robust basin]

Nein... I'm courting a nice old singer

[oak ivy]

blogpost about it in the sherma discord :)

[merry whale]

excellence should be 100% rare

overtune everything trust

[oak ivy]

even then I probably wouldn't take it...

[merry whale]

me neither but it'd be fun

[oak ivy]

true true

[loud oasis]

Do we know if Switch 2 and Steam will be able to share saves easily?

[orchid acorn]

yes, "simple menu"

[wise ledge]

The biggest victim of Chronos is actually the Tiny Vermin. Chronos nerfed him so much

[wintry dagger]

It should be as easy as in Hades 1, where on the Steam version it's just saving as normal and letting Steam save to Steam Cloud upon exiting the game, and on the Switch 2 version it's just letting it sync with Steam servers upon loading in / saving when exiting.

[loud oasis]

nice! will pick it up on switch 2 as well so i can play on pc or switch as desired -- and also to support supergiant!

does switch 2 have preload / preorder?

[scenic jungle]

It does tmk

[wintry dagger]

Yes, and preloads have gone line

I'm still going to try loading into the Steam version first and then saving before loading the Switch 2 version just to make sure it's syncing with a 1.0 save though, in case that matters

[lost wing]

any skong?

[merry whale]

ye there's digital preorder for h2 rn

ah discord force scrolled me up

[hollow iron]

I can't tell if it's worth trying to learn how to play h2 on the controller or if I should stick to keyboard

[cerulean lake]

Like 3 more days...

[buoyant matrix]

keyboard has gameplay advantage in some cases

but controller lets you lean back and relax

whichever one rows your boat

[cerulean lake]

Wherever youre having fun and achieving whatever you really wanna achieve

[wise ledge]

For me controller was a game changer back in hades 1

[hollow iron]

Fair enough, I don't think I'll ever do any run above 15 fear so relaxing could be more fun

[wise ledge]

I never owned a controller before, but after getting one playing hades became so much more comfortable

[buoyant matrix]

my ass can NOT go below 32 anymore 💯

[wise ledge]

So imho the recommendation to play with a controller in the main menu is completely justified

[cerulean lake]

All my games growing up were on a ds, 3ds, ps4 before going to pc when i was muuuch less hardcore on games

Kbm will never feel as familiar to me i fear... 😔 People bully me for using controllers for shooters

[wise ledge]

using controllers for shooters
Okay THAT is justified :D

[cerulean lake]

Yeah but literally what does it even matter

Go outside etc

[buoyant matrix]

one of the first games i ever played was super meat boy on a keyboard

starting with a ridiculously tight platformer on keyboard set me up for life

[meager garden]

I use controllers just for emulators or for driving/flying games

[wise ledge]

I mean. If you are playing extremely casually - doesn't matter that much. If you want to WIN - then using controller becomes a problem, because they objectively suck at aiming, quick camera movements and stuff like that.

It's like handicapping yourself on purpose

[cerulean lake]

Yeah, you assume my primary goal is winning & that my fps downtime affects my friends wellness

My goal when i play games is to have fun, and fun isnt meant to be a one sized fits all.

Im not sure ive ever tried kbm on a driving game, ive mostly played those types of games on console

I think i tried driving w a kbm once and got so annoyed i uninstalled

[wise ledge]

I'm not saying it should affect your friends in any way lol. If it really bothers them, it's their problem, not yours.

It's ok if you have fun with controllers, it's just that for most people not being good at a shooter game is not fun.

If you have fun - no problems

[meager garden]

yeah I tried to play ace combat on kbm once and I went insane

absolutely the wrong way

[cerulean lake]

Real
Im always gonna be a sucker for controllers, i spent wayyy too many years on my 3/ds

[tacit light]

Totally unrelated but I love your profile

[cerulean lake]

Thank you!!! Yours is so cute too!
Ajfjak i get wayy too much enjoyment out of setting up my profiles

[tacit light]

TY! And so real cause same 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

[cerulean lake]

Im just an avg marvel comics liker and idk how all my faves ended up in rivals. ...

[tacit light]

You just accidentally manifested them 🙏🙏

[little mason]

only 1 more day till 1.0

[tacit light]

Are you a time traveler by chance

[meager garden]

1.0 released yesterday let's freaking go

[primal lance]

Hey all, I feel like I heard or read somewhere that some of our items from early access will be converted to prestige once v1.0 drops.

Is that true or can someone point me to where that was stated? I’m not mad about it, i’m just trying to be ready.

[meager garden]

yeah, final boss items

sorry if you killed chronos a bajillion times you'll need to do it again a few times for true ending

[cerulean lake]

So glad i didnt make myself stockpile boss items

[merry whale]

1 million prestige before 1.0

[cerulean lake]

What even is prestige. Is it the furniture currency.

[primal lance]

I’m trying make something in the cauldron before it drops so I may need to do some farming before then

[meager garden]

yeah

[primal lance]

I think so

[cerulean lake]

Okay slay actually, im so poor on prestige & i love decorating

[cobalt sorrel]

I'm gonna start a new file anyway

[candid nimbus]

I've got it like 3 days after the 1.0 announcement, so not very concerned lol

[mossy tangle]

It's the final countdown, people!

[tacit light]

SAME I’ve basically bought almost everything

The more clutter the better ❤️

[mossy tangle]

not sure if I have every piece of furniture

[limpid stream]

Made it to the ||Ships of Thessaly||, made it past ||Eris|| first try

[mossy tangle]

legend

[cobalt sorrel]

well done

[limpid stream]

Made it all the way to ||Talos||

[mossy tangle]

I remember when surface runs stopped there

[tacit light]

WOOP WOOP good job

You don’t have to spoiler btw!

[limpid stream]

Always wanted to clear a boss first try glad I got to check that off my bucket list before I ran out lmao

[tacit light]

Hehehe

[tall sparrow]

when hades 2 releases will there be a release discount? Or will it be same price

[meager garden]

no one knows

[cerulean lake]

Am also considering this, mostly just to see how fast i can beat h2 from fresh i think

I Probably dont have the patiencr to start over for real though lol

[cobalt sorrel]

i doooooo

[limpid stream]

Wait we have to buy Hades 2? Our EA copy isn’t just upgraded?

[meager garden]

or have your steam family buy it for you

[raven perch]

No your ea copy is fine

They’re not gonna make you buy it twice

[cerulean lake]

Pls lend me some of it 🙏

[raven perch]

Unless you get it on different devices

[limpid stream]

I’ve bought Hades 1 3 times I’m sure I’ll get it again lol

[plain shale]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

Care to show the collection for flexing

[meager garden]

if you played hades 2 ea you cannot play after 1.0 drops, so that other people can get a turn

[limpid stream]

One time on Switch (physical), one time on Steam, another time on Steam for a friend

[plain shale]

Ah

[limpid stream]

In my defense the Switch copy was used I think lol

Also my dad bought it lmao, so I’ve bought the game twice

[wind solar]

I wanted to try to simulate early game for myself so I could practice before 1.0 and starting a new file, and apparently with an inactive trinket, an unleveled companion and my worst weapon aspect I can still beat Chronos with no arcana at all

[cerulean lake]

Lol????

[limpid stream]

You can level up companions???

[orchid acorn]

...yes?

[plain shale]

Did your dad enjoy hades

[limpid stream]

I’ve just been using Frinos to save time on those stupid soul qte

[orchid acorn]

frinos can give you 40 extra hp, increases psyche spawns and stomps enemies

[plain shale]

What how can you upgrade him

[meager garden]

treats

[limpid stream]

Lol I wish, he bought it as a gift I dont know if my dad would even know how to connect the joycons to the switch

[remote panther]

You feed him

[orchid acorn]

unlock the ability to upgrade pets by recuriting the first 3 iirc

[plain shale]

Ok

[limpid stream]

Oh that’s why I didnt know I only have Frinos

[little mason]

pets are for noobs

[orchid acorn]

just checked, its >3 familiar points spent

so recruit toula frinos raki

technically can get gale or hecuba after toula and frinos now

[remote panther]

Just hit rivals 4. Chronos is brutal

[little mason]

should of been a fear opition to remove pet

[orchid acorn]

circe challenge hard mode

[sleek oar]

Can you do runs without a pet anymore

[orchid acorn]

yes you have always been able to tell them to stay

[sleek oar]

Just realized ive never tried to unequip them

[plain shale]

So is physical coming out in November right

[sleek oar]

Ohh okay okay

[orchid acorn]

for switch yes

[plain shale]

Ok thanks

[haughty hill]

rivals 4 unseals his secret stash of cocaine

[little mason]

https://tenor.com/view/stay-good-boy-fake-pillow-gif-3541470

[remote panther]

Among other things lol

I’m so glad they gave Chronos back his unpause powers for rivals 4 I really enjoyed that mechanic

[tidal cliff]

How do you beat hecate without any abilities if the game forces you to take a gods ability at the start of a run? Do you just restart until you get some thing else or

[meager garden]

are you trying to do boonless

[tidal cliff]

Yeah

[meager garden]

correct me if I'm wrong but I think you might be forced to take boons and sell them sometimes

also onion helps

[remote panther]

Yeah onion is the way to go

[meager garden]

and rerolls, but I think you might still be forced to take boons

[tidal cliff]

But doesn’t sell only show up later after hecate?

[meager garden]

yeah

pick a boon that you're not going to use, maybe?

[tidal cliff]

oh is it not have any boons or just never proc one?

[meager garden]

I mean what are you tryna do, get the dialogue with chronos?

[tidal cliff]

If it’s just not proc one that’s way easier

[meager garden]

or submit a run to the leaderboards?

[tidal cliff]

I thought there was a prophecy for it

But now that I’m checking I don’t see one

That’s odd😭

[meager garden]

yeah it's just a very optional thing for a little dialogue

[vital hollow]

Do hexes count as boons for this?

[meager garden]

wha

[orchid acorn]

im... im fairly sure that says no ARCANA

not nothing PERIOD

[vital hollow]

*boons

[meager garden]

I'm surprised dyno didn't kill you for that

[orchid acorn]

HEX: TITTY

Stun all enemies in that direction by flashing them

Costs: Self esteem

[wise ledge]

https://i.imgur.com/fg9rhTY.png

[candid nimbus]

There is one for no Arcana, but no for no boons

And you can get the Arcana one with one of Chaos trials

[crude dragon]

Yeah, was about to mention that the Arcana-less one is basically free since you just do the fresh file Chaos trial

[karmic wadi]

Hi there. Is there a chance, that fig leaf doesn’t proc during the whole region? Happend to me once and it felt strange.

[orchid acorn]

yes and its intended

[stoic flint]

Hades 2 is going to be released in less than 69 hours! This is not a drill. I repeat, this is not a drill!

[crude dragon]

Unfortunately, yes

People call it the scam leaf for good reason

[raven perch]

As if Mel would feel shame

[finite talon]

Get on the good side with Aphrodite, amiright

I had a chuckle at demeter calling aphrodite out in h1, in the most passive aggressive way possible

[polar abyss]

I mean there is that one moment with Dora, and another moment with Polyphemus that’s less applicable

[raven perch]

With Dora that's more about the privacy of an intimate moment rather than any shame over her body.. with polyphemus I don't remember though

I know she tells Poly what she looks like 🤔

[polar abyss]

I think she accidentally tells Polyphemus “I’ll look for it (the eye)”

[raven perch]

I can't find that yeah 😔

[karmic wadi]

Clean coil or Dividing blaze on Supai zeus/poseidon?

[polar abyss]

“Nobody took out your eye? You must have lost it. I’ll keep an eye out for it! I mean… augh…”

This was in a dialogue relating to Odysseus

[raven perch]

That doesn’t have much to do with shame about her body though? Which is the idea I was referring to haha

[polar abyss]

^

I thought this meant Shame in General

[raven perch]

Ahh yeah, no Mel has a lot of insecurity about other things! But she walks around half-naked cuz she don’t care lol

[granite mauve]

mel has hourglass figure she might be a spy for chronos 🤔

[raven perch]

oh my god you've cracked it

[granite mauve]

mel first came to the crossroads right when chronos took the house of hades... this cant be a coincidence

[limpid stream]

How long do you think until someone mods Zagreus and the infernal arms into H2

[pallid cradle]

Brother what

[raven perch]

They’ve been trying

[granite mauve]

they have to remake them from scratch to support h2 so maybe never

[limpid stream]

I’m sure that someone will eventually

[pallid cradle]

I just want the speedrunner modpack but that one will probably be much harder to do in this game.

[cursive kayak]

zag has inverted triangle figure, he is spy for dorito

[limpid stream]

What I really want is a creative mode of sorts where you can do a run with whatever boons you want so that I can try out wacky builds (is there an H1 mod for this?)

[devout abyss]

3 hours :pog face emoji:

[tame stratus]

are those achievements earnable yet, or are they still being implemented?

i can like, see them in the library

[raven perch]

They’re not

[orchid acorn]

are they live again?

oh hey they are. guess review codes are out

wait they added a new achievement theres 50 now

now i gotta compare aa

[polar abyss]

It’s probably “Earn all other achievements”

[raven perch]

What the hell

[orchid acorn]

nope that was there before

and was something i was pissed about

[polar abyss]

Really? Ok

[orchid acorn]

because we had 1 less total achievement than h1

49 achievements yet one was the get all achievements

[devout abyss]

what is the new one

ur really SLACKING pronto

is it fair fight?

[cursive kayak]

oh shoot achievements are out?

[tame stratus]

ty

[robust basin]

Yeah, that is a meaningless achievement

[orchid acorn]

ok so they changed a few achievements

[tame stratus]

kinda like dead god except dead god has some extra stuff

[orchid acorn]

"prestidigitation" is now "giving back"

i THINK this one is new cause im not seeing a match but im gonna keep looking https://imgur.com/9jhWOF1

WTF

https://imgur.com/8rZ9WYU
OK THIS ONE IS ABSOLUTELY NEW AND WE WON

@oak ivy

@little frost

[polar abyss]

So wait, how many were listed in the leak?

[cursive kayak]

THEY GET COSTUMES????

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[orchid acorn]

same as h1, except 1 was the platinum so it was 1 less in reality

[polar abyss]

Well we see at-least one costume in the icon, presumably.

Toula may have some Wizard like hat.

[orchid acorn]

hand of the fates has been doubled for some reason

how many minor prophecies are in h1 rn

[cursive kayak]

i need all of frinos costumes immediately

[orchid acorn]

it went from 30>60

[wise ledge]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

[orchid acorn]

ok so this achievement was cut from the gamehttps://imgur.com/Jp14iiM

[wet hull]

this one is beat with all aspects

[orchid acorn]

and in exchange we got https://imgur.com/8rZ9WYU https://imgur.com/9jhWOF1

[sleek oar]

Are achievements out???

[polar abyss]

Interesting

[wet hull]

I'm not seeing anything else new

[cursive kayak]

familiar costumes……..

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/YSgN9ic

Yellow was changed with wording

or mechanical in the case of hand of fates, it went from 30>60

[granite mauve]

omg achievements !

[sleek oar]

Where can I find the full list

[orchid acorn]

literally in your steam library

ill make a new compilation i guess

[sleek oar]

I don’t have my laptop rn

[granite mauve]

I wonder if arachne dresses are getting some changes because dressed to kill seems way harder than a 16 fear run

[sleek oar]

I’m typing on my goddamn iPad

[wet hull]

https://steamcommunity.com/stats/1145350/achievements

[sleek oar]

Thank youuuu

[cursive kayak]

is dressed to kill keeping the dress the whole time?

[granite mauve]

starting the chronos fight with a dress active

[cursive kayak]

ah

it’s really not all that bad. u get heph boons and u use arachne keepsake

[granite mauve]

yeah I guess so

[haughty hill]

dressed to kill is easy if you're actually going for it specifically

[cursive kayak]

yeah

[sleek oar]

I saw 1000 gold and started wondering how I’m supposed to do that in one run 💀

[granite mauve]

after doing rivals 4 on frenzy 2 dodging the normal bosses should be easy 😭

[haughty hill]

there are gold increase boons

[cursive kayak]

my highest gold in a run is like 6.6k

[granite mauve]

im so glad theres an achievement for all achievements this time, its very unsatisfying that the steam version of hades 1 didnt have it

[haughty hill]

No, it's that you can walk into chronos with like 400 armour

[mossy tangle]

yeah, they're not "earnable" yet

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/pVm2z1T

there

[cursive kayak]

appreciate you pronto

[haughty hill]

also notably you don't need to beat chronos without losing it

[wet hull]

prestige called kudos??

[orchid acorn]

that was the case before too

[sleek oar]

Pronto my goat

[haughty hill]

Right but it makes it way easier than the silk-saver titlecard

[orchid acorn]

huh i missed that i just looked at the achievement name.

[raven perch]

This isn’t ao3

[orchid acorn]

makes sense why it was renamed from prestidigitation then

[mossy tangle]

hah

[granite mauve]

is there any new achievements this time around

[mossy tangle]

i've been bingeplaying BotW and now I mix the buttons when I go back to pc

[orchid acorn]

yes two.

One prophecy
and one that confirms familiar cosmetics

[mossy tangle]

I keep pressing B thinking I'm pressing A

[sleek oar]

Wym, we’re literally getting asterius and Theseus wedding, didn’t you see the achievement

[mossy tangle]

damn you Nintendo.

[robust basin]

Thank god

[devout abyss]

???????

[robust basin]

This sounds so crazy

Are they already unlockable?

[little frost]

im gonna cry

this is incredible

[granite mauve]

not until 1.0

[orchid acorn]

no

seem to be hooked to the newer version

which isn't uncommon

we don't have the logic filled out in achievementdata

[granite mauve]

they're probably making sure the code that rewards achievements to old files is working correctly

[orchid acorn]

that was what happened like a month ago

[sleek oar]

Are all the prophecies on the list rn, if anyone checked

[orchid acorn]

two aren't

unfinished business ody side quest
silk and spitefullness arachne sidequest

[sleek oar]

Oop okay bet

[devout abyss]

i feel like 90% of silk and spite is already done

[sleek oar]

Arachne human get ready guys

[cursive kayak]

arachne human would be like really cheesy idk if i want that

it’s more likely than not though

[orchid acorn]

so true bestie

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/1uHM33nFy4TE5r1FdgXg_OjsYRdHXG_GnW96SDfOI_M/https/i.imgur.com/PoaFTXk.png?format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1006&height=1175\

[raven perch]

STOP

[cursive kayak]

not again

[granite mauve]

[sleek oar]

Damn wait, fulfill 60 minor prophecies?

[orchid acorn]

o yeah that changed too

[sleek oar]

Are there that many in the game 😭

[cursive kayak]

how many are there currently?

[scenic vessel]

if anyone here is interested in speedrunning I'm running Hades 2 on GDQ Hotfix in a few hours, you can see the schedule here https://gamesdonequick.com/hotfix/schedule

[cursive kayak]

YOOO sick!

I’ll stop on by

[sleek oar]

Rip Europeans

(Me)

[orchid acorn]

minor prophecies are just the entire fated list right?

[scenic vessel]

i was given 9:20 eastern time as an estimation

[sleek oar]

Yep

[orchid acorn]

right now theres 7....8? i wanna say

[scenic vessel]

might be a bit earlier/later

[orchid acorn]

ill watch ye

[cursive kayak]

i wonder if im still a mod on the twitch channel bc i was a mod for flame fatales

[sleek oar]

Damn that’s a lot more than I thought

Cool though

[orchid acorn]

way better than the 30 they had before

30 was literally "Exist"

this is at least.... somewhat completionist

[molten obsidian]

200 hours for Completionist here we go.

[orchid acorn]

probably gonna go to 90 at launch give or take

[sleek oar]

They removed my h1 goat of level up every keepsake

I hated it but I loved it

Stockholm syndrome

[granite mauve]

thats because epilogue will require this and max friendship with every character (trust me!!!)

[sleek oar]

For some reason I can’t trust you 😔😔😔

[wise ledge]

Just something to do while you fish for the Pat storyline to continue T_T

[orchid acorn]

i just saw this

[sleek oar]

Pro rat

I like your username

[orchid acorn]

i take back everything i said about sgg unless they nerf my weapons. pets having costumes is peak

im now more excited

[sleek oar]

Reaaaaaal

[devout abyss]

i hope frinos straight up dies

[orchid acorn]

ty mr amir and greg and rest of the team

[sleek oar]

Who tf is trobbio

[devout abyss]

lol

[cursive kayak]

I knew they had like little beds/decoration for their area bc of the trailer but I was not expecting costumes im so happy

[devout abyss]

lmao

laughing in your face and spitting on your shoes

[sleek oar]

Rofl?

[cursive kayak]

i need one of frinos’ costumes to be a melinoe costume please

[molten obsidian]

Each Golden hat’s gonna take like 10 hours to farm .

[orchid acorn]

i do not care

[granite mauve]

amir please buff medea again 🙏

[orchid acorn]

i will farm for a golden hat for my glorious queen toula

[devout abyss]

i hope toula chokes and lives

[orchid acorn]

thats just having a hairball

[sleek oar]

Bro I need a raki costume

[devout abyss]

you are too big to wear it

[wise ledge]

https://i.imgur.com/UGoSv8i.png

[sleek oar]

How do you know

[devout abyss]

hidden camera

[sleek oar]

🤨

Mods I’m being stalked

At least someone wants to know about me ig

[devout abyss]

you agreed to it??

[sleek oar]

Yeah why not

[granite mauve]

"clear oceanus" has 0%... sirens might need a nerf 😬

[devout abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742056287264833546/1419808824470274140/3ec66e887361d51efd01812578527679.png?ex=68d31b82&is=68d1ca02&hm=2ee5a31bc838461f245ed924e00fae6ccbb0c2f6e61497bdd86e745845aeda5a&

[sleek oar]

Help?.?? 😭😭😭

[devout abyss]

how is this my fault

[meager garden]

1 month old receipts is wild

[sleek oar]

I have the memory of a fish

Ok I guess I can’t complain

[granite mauve]

supergiant needs to add a steam achievement for 67 fear surface and underworld who agrees!

[meager garden]

me!

[cursive kayak]

please no

[granite mauve]

with every aspect as well!

[little mason]

They need to jail those people are dangerous

[meager garden]

100% should only be achievable by like, 2 people in the world!

[orchid acorn]

ill be the biggest fraud on earth

SAM by beloved

[granite mauve]

you cheated not only the game, but yourself. you didn't grow. you didn't improve. you took a shortcut and gained nothing. you experienced a hollow knight victory. nothing was riSked and notHing was gained. it's sAd that you don't knoW the difference.

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/coldplay-ceo-andy-andy-ceo-caught-cheating-gif-6062910238618808761

[devout abyss]

are these people famous or something

[orchid acorn]

CEO that was caught cheating with his HR manager at a concert via the big screen kiss cam thing

[devout abyss]

yeah but are they famous

[orchid acorn]

the ceo was

[wise ledge]

They are NOW :D

[scenic jungle]

they put the achievements up again😭

[orchid acorn]

see above

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1417914455714566155/1419805045225951372/image.png?ex=68d317fd&is=68d1c67d&hm=c92e15ed551029b0c980f2b79a2eb3fa8e06ae9757c552c8acf1c4d07f6e0033&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=714&height=159

[scenic jungle]

OMG

alt familar costumes

[devout abyss]

oh i get it, unfamiliar

[scenic jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-gif-23893070

[oak ivy]

Define "famous"