h2-discussion

[wintry dagger]

Casts having innate damage on 1.0 would be the funniest possible patch note

[snow elk]

[solemn fractal]

while it would be peak it might be too strong ngl

like cast is unironically one of meli's strognest moves

[zealous wing]

for the chronos fight should I take Deep Dissant or Cinerary Circle, not too educated on what boons are good from hades

[raven perch]

Deep Dissent

Cinerary Circle isn’t too useful

[zealous wing]

thank you

[orchid acorn]

the answer is always deep dissent if its offered

even moreso if you're playing rivals

[zealous wing]

oh? Ive never had much problem with the allies he spawns but I also have not beaten him so im like the worst person to add their opinion atm lol

[orchid acorn]

its more that its one of the only things that matters

and rivals the mobs are actually more annoying since

• they self destruct
• skips the miniboss phase
• all 3 phases has adds in it
• specifically in phase 3 it affects the clone chronos

non rivals it just removes the filler, but its not like anything else will do much else for you comparatively.

less time killing adds more time killing big bad

[raven perch]

B-but… I thought killing Time was the whole point 🥺

[zealous wing]

thank you everyone for the advice got through Chronos without even using a death defiance

ill post it in victory

[raven perch]

Huzzah!

[orchid acorn]

wicked thrasher mirrored thrasher aphro attack is a disgusting read

with the bugged posiedon magick to have infinite magick too 😭

7k toula damage too jesus

[lost wing]

wait what's the bug with Flood Gain?

[orchid acorn]

mirrored thrasher consumes 5 magick on attack

flood gain constantly restores it without going on cd

[lost wing]

oh wow

[zealous wing]

it was a nasty build, Chronos phase 1 died in maybe a minute and a half mainly because he would shield himself

also is there no way to save Hades and the rest of the house at the moment? I would assume itd wait until V1.0 released but at the same time I dont know how Chronos could still function as the final boss if he has no hostages

I do hope to see Nyx and Zagreus again

[orchid acorn]

those are 1.0 features coming in like 4 days

[zealous wing]

Oh wow thought it was atleast a week or two from now

[crude dragon]

Nope, it's the 25th

Mark your calendar, dress nice

[lyric matrix]

They're counting it down on social media

[zealous wing]

how exciting, truly happy Hades 2 is so fun when I heard a year or two ago we were getting a sequel I was so happy now its actually here

amazing game honestly top 3 roguelikes/lites along with isaac and ror2 for me

[orchid acorn]

may as well post it here too

<t:1758816000:F>

[twin apex]

living in PDT is great, i love getting it earlier in the day than everyone else

[lost wing]

*Arachne intenifies*

[buoyant matrix]

8-ish pm for me. great cause I'm done with the day by then and just planning to chill 🔥

[wise ledge]

19:00 for me, right about the time I wake up. Nice.

[twin apex]

09:00 release and i don't have class to go to on that day

it's silksong all over again

[orchid acorn]

PDT people when they are employed tho

[twin apex]

play it at work 🔥

[raven perch]

Quit your job

[wise ledge]

If your job prevents you from playing hades 2 on release, do you really need that job

[craggy widget]

this week gonna be fire, jetlag episode on wednesday and hades 2 on Thursday🔥

[orchid acorn]

thats gonna be me

i work at 4pm but its steam deck time

[wintry dagger]

Thursday my work is full of boring on-camera meetings. Sick Day is guaranteed.

[sleek oar]

Thursday is when i go back from uni 🔥

[orchid acorn]

who tf is setting fire this chat

@mods lilac and spooki are arsonists

[fast jewel]

lvl 12 boon.
I'm sorry for sleeping on you Echo, I wasn't familiar with your game

[oak ivy]

🤭

[fathom lake]

PROMETHEUS

[wintry dagger]

Whenever I see Hera pop up, I don’t see hitch, I see potential +4 levels for each Zeus

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/skara-skara-toh-arson-arsonist-unhinged-gif-26600210

[light gull]

rivals cronos is too strong😭

[bitter vapor]

Same for me lmaooo 18:00

[wintry dagger]

Chronos really loves to hop around with rivals

[bitter vapor]

I haven’t played in a while, maybe it’s a dumb question, but is there a ‘next stage’ (another room) that’s still locked after beating Typhon, like there was after Chronos?

[idle crater]

yep

[orchid acorn]

no.

[idle crater]

what

[orchid acorn]

well yes kinda

its not like a whole region but its gonna be the one room greece equivalent

its the ending of the route

[light gull]

oh my god, when he spawns 2390849 balls around and then suddenly teleports and those balls go straight to my face fgsdgsdgsdfg like there is no way i can dash this

[bitter vapor]

That’s why I put ‘another room’ in parentheses

[raven perch]

Take frinos

[orchid acorn]

ye my brain took the whole next stage and skipped forward

[bitter vapor]

Np lol

[raven perch]

Naw mate Mel is gonna roll down the mountain like Sonic T. Hedgehog/j

[orchid acorn]

why was my dumbass sitting here like "sonic has a middle name?" for a solid like 30 seconds

[raven perch]

Yeah it’s “The”

[orchid acorn]

yeah i figured that part out

[raven perch]

Pfft

[orchid acorn]

i was like t??? 🤔

[oak ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-26454802

🤭

[oak ivy]

Reminded me of this gif

[raven perch]

Sonic Testosterone Hedgehog

[crude dragon]

Charles Entertainment Cheese

[tender river]

4 days until 1.0, friends.

[vernal echo]

Hello Admins , I have a question ?

[orchid acorn]

admins likely won't respond to you, mods might but they prob won't have the info you want

[tender river]

or maybe we can help you

depends on the q

[orchid acorn]

personally im expecting "Why no console release date"

[worldly drum]

when is icarus keepsake useful? I find it hard to use

[tender river]

it will launch on switch and PC together, right? not sure about others

[orchid acorn]

3rd biome lets it stay for the rest of the game, assuming max rank

you just take it as a default choice if you havent hit your good hammers

[worldly drum]

but what are the chances you get something good

the same thing applies for chaos going for random feels weird

[orchid acorn]

more that there isn't many chances of you getting something bad

and if you are missing the good hammers the chances are higher

[worldly drum]

understood

[orchid acorn]

basically only questionable on axe which the single strike hammer can brick some builds

or at minimum increase the workload of your ability to keep it a viable run a lot more than it previously was

[tender river]

@vernal echo what's your q?

[orchid acorn]

PC and switch 1/2 digital launch same day

switch physical is a game cart launching nov 20th

[crude dragon]

You take it in the third or fourth region, depending on rank

And yeah, like Pronto said, there's a low chance it picks something that outright bricks your build

[orchid acorn]

hammers are better than basically anything else you can get general, at worst its literally useless on average its beneficial but not run defining(Armor shred etc) but the 1-2 hammers you can hit that blow the top off are worth it

[candid geode]

half a switch

[silk vigil]

Is anybody else struggling to find Medea ever?
She's the last person I need to see to get the last hidden aspect (I assume given the weapon has her aspect) but I've done so many runs back and forth to the city and even after rerolling she never shows up

[candid geode]

She will come to you when she decides to

Medea comes and goes as she pleases

Amen

[silk vigil]

Medea really is the most wicked of all the witches, she's got desire sensors dang

[idle crater]

istg her spawn rate feels like once every ten surface runs

[candid geode]

I had her twice in a row wdym

[orchid acorn]

shes like a 30% chance to spawn but the main thing that is tragic is the fact ephyra generates once

so it feels worse

since you enter ephyra > did medea generate > yes or no

as opposed to like any door between rooms like 3-9 being any other npc in other regions for example

[silk vigil]

oh so rerolling doors is useless then?

[orchid acorn]

all ephyra doors are preset

medea can only spawn on that one room on the right side

you can't reroll into any NPC encounter in any region for the record

[silk vigil]

I've stayed away from the will of the night just in case she can't spawn w/ it, I swear I'm this close to recreating the in-game rituals irl

oh good to know, thanks lol

[orchid acorn]

she can spawn withi t

[raven perch]

You just have to do Ephyra runs frequently

[orchid acorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1245594586135527466/1358678593252757567/image.png?ex=68d18acb&is=68d0394b&hm=bdc14846d901aec760c2d5ba6a2bdea2321bc074a9f9d449b84777acfc7cb818&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=309

Medea is always in her one specific room

she either spawns or she doesn't

[silk vigil]

oh wow that is a very useful chart

tysm!

[orchid acorn]

the maps are preset too like i said for the other rooms

i think that image is missing like two rooms

guess it hasn't been updated yet

i swear it was tho

[silk vigil]

that's already really useful dw lmao

[crude dragon]

This is before the boar was added, right?

[orchid acorn]

yeah pre boar thats the one missing room

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1402121667223752817/1402125146181079230/Ephyra_Rooms_2.png?ex=68d1658d&is=68d0140d&hm=d3908999acfa50a41bc83c1ea542bc2a0598c2f05d21b8398e8ab47dba0d370e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
found the newer one

• Up to 3 side rooms in: 8, 18, 22, 24
• Up to 2 side rooms in: 1, 4, 5, 13, 23
• Up to 1 side room in: 3, 9 10, 11, 15, 16, 17

now with side room info™

[crude dragon]

Still missing the boar room, pretty sure, since isn't that next to Medea?

[orchid acorn]

wrong image linked xdd

[sharp garden]

Did you make this ? Really informative

[crude dragon]

Think that's a speedrunning Discord project

[slim pike]

Foolish fun zone? Lol

[west fossil]

That's actually really good to know.

[arctic valley]

How do i unlock aries boon?

[idle crater]

you need to make it to typhon

you dont have to beat him, just get to the fight

[arctic valley]

ok, thx

[orchid acorn]

no its from speedcord

lots of little channels with info in there

you can tell its speedrunning focused by the legend bottom left talking about if you should take it or not xdd

[cloud python]

forgive me if this is already answered but for my save file I made some fairly substantial progress during some of the earliest EA versions of Hades 2 and haven't played since. Will the game fill me in on any scenes I would've missed because it wasn't implemented when I reached them prior?

[orchid acorn]

There have been literally zero scenes added retroactively to the game since the launch of EA

there are some dialogues and stuff they sprinked in every now and then, but those cna play in any order

you may (likely will) recieve them out of order/context if you already meet the prereqs though

for example getting mourning field dialogue when you've beaten chronos etc

[cloud python]

That's good to hear, thank you

[little mason]

It would be better if they just killed everyone's saves and made us buy the game again

[orchid acorn]

so true

sunsetting the PC version, switch exclusivity for 1 year

no save transfer

[little mason]

Buy it on switch now to keep ur save file safe legal blackmail

[orchid acorn]

only transfers to switch 2

buy a new console to play your save /s

[cloud python]

"Time cannot be stopped, because if you come close we'll stop you instead"

[merry whale]

time cannot be mopped

[arctic valley]

what is a good arcana set for the black coat, for reaching typhoon

[orchid acorn]

the arcana setup is the same 99% of the time excluding like 6 grasp to pick for yourself

[wintry dagger]

Albertsons when they tell me they’re sold out of herbs

||thyme cannot be shopped||

[cloud python]

Time cannot be stopped, thanks to the Switch 2 enhancements allowing for stutter-free 120fps play at no extra cost

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/MqtPyqF
23 grasp
split the remainder between artificer/huntress/lovers/origination/night

choose str if you really want to over death ig

[raven perch]

Consider: pick up Unseen

[orchid acorn]

consider dying

[raven perch]

I certainly have

Out of budget

[orchid acorn]

thats crazy

i can kill you with like 5 dollars of rope

[broken glen]

Turn off everything except unseen and do a judgement build!!

[raven perch]

What am I, the size of an ant

[orchid acorn]

i wish

[merry whale]

consider strength

just don't get hit

[wintry dagger]

Strength was almost always the better pick a few patches ago but it’s actually super balanced now imo, sometimes but not always the better pick than 3 DDs

[swift stream]

How is the EA to 1.0 transition working in terms of the save itself

[meager garden]

everything carries over except for final boss materials

also there will be cross save between Steam and switch so you should be able to use your Steam EA save on switch

[swift stream]

final bosses for each zone or just the final boss of the run

[meager garden]

run

[swift stream]

ok ty

[meager garden]

probably for story reasons so people can't instantly get true ending

[swift stream]

makes sense, I've been holding off for the 1.0 experience generally, but though I might farm some meta progression today

[cursive kayak]

i wonder how much prestige each will give

[merry whale]

idk bout balanced cuz i like bringing strength in low fear settings, but esp once u put on scars strength becomes objectively dogwater

[meager garden]

it's weird because last patch people still used strength in 55f I think

[merry whale]

55f max void?

[meager garden]

oh wait I'm stupid

[buoyant matrix]

no origination? 🥺

[meager garden]

50f lol

[buoyant matrix]

yeah cause strength had a bajillion cheeses

[meager garden]

it's been a while I forgot the old benchmarks

[merry whale]

yea i brought strength for warsong 50f, it was also cuz of the funny charity bottle cheese

[buoyant matrix]

literally just take that one demeter boon that heals you for picking up resources

[merry whale]

then they nerfed strength in p9 before fixing the cheeses in p10

[meager garden]

Plentiful Forage my beloved

[merry whale]

ig onion is fine but damn i do wish it was on silken sash then they can make dmg resistance actually work with armor again

[cursive kayak]

i remember that boon pre nerf it was great

i get why they changed it don’t get me wrong

[buoyant matrix]

it's still great on scars2 and below
especially now that greatest gift of gaia exists 🫀

[cursive kayak]

also ngl the old version isn’t as good without choosing what tool to run with anyway so

choose shovel
get demeter boon
oops! all max health

[orchid acorn]

usually on but not always

[rose canyon]

question is there hades merch besides the zag figma and the stuff in fangamer?

[cursive kayak]

people individually make hades merch but it’s not official

the official merch is on fangamer afaik

[rose canyon]

and there isn't hades 2 merch yet right?

[cursive kayak]

there was the melinoe nendoroid i think?

which ngl i do wanna get

[meager garden]

Who was doing bingo again

[cursive kayak]

me and a few other people

[wise ledge]

Bingo?

[cursive kayak]

my board ranges from “yeah fairly obvious” to “???”

[meager garden]

if it's not there already, add "Supay gets its ball back"

[cursive kayak]

nah im not changing mine

[merry whale]

didn't supay already get a ball back

[cursive kayak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/610608285527048212/1418654802312822824/image.png?ex=68d18bbe&is=68d03a3e&hm=ac34ad4ccbe154bbbfa5629504ba5ee579bf132054bdfc93318be3c6e236cde4&

[meager garden]

oh wait I forgor

[merry whale]

they should bring back ospec stagger on all flames

[rose canyon]

can you believe it guys? hades II! just 4 days away!!

[broken glen]

https://tenor.com/view/can-you-believe-guys-christmas-one-week-until-christmas-im-so-thriled-about-this-information-christmas-christmas-meme-gif-24202287

[long totem]

I'm trying to ignore the days so they go faster

[cursive kayak]

gotta get my majora’s mask gifs ready

[long totem]

Like ignoring the thing you're downloading so it goes faster.

[normal mountain]

they're stealing all our z sand and void lenses off us all cause they can and they hate us

[sleek oar]

I should probably buy the music im missing w the lenses and stuff

[meager garden]

they're taking from the rich(people that have played EA for a bajillion hours) and giving to the poor(switch players)

[cursive kayak]

i think i have forty something sands and fifteen lenses?

im curious as to how much prestige each nets

[rose canyon]

https://imgur.com/a/q0Vl4xt

[sleek oar]

Real

[normal mountain]

i have like 100 of each, i'm not giving them back to SGG without a fight

[cursive kayak]

“fight”

[meager garden]

turn off auto updates of any kind so they never get them

[cursive kayak]

ohhhhhhhhh

[lucid bronze]

actually Medea will be buffed i am john supergiant

[normal mountain]

fine, I will spoil myself when I come onto discord, on release day idc. lol

[meager garden]

thank you john supergiant

[orchid acorn]

me leaving the technical test open for 4 days after it closed

[lucid bronze]

we are increasing the damage bonus to 120% and making it global

[cursive kayak]

hi john supergiant im a huge fan

[lucid bronze]

we will also be nerfing pan

[orchid acorn]

chat do we think the patch notes will leave out anything important this time

[meager garden]

soldier who kept fighting 29 years after technical test

[normal mountain]

yes

[orchid acorn]

not like story stuff

[meager garden]

1 million more stealth nerfs to strength

[orchid acorn]

stuff like how they neglected to mention strength and divinity nerf for some reaso

[normal mountain]

it's in the patch notes, but its very missable

[meager garden]

it wasn't there initially

[orchid acorn]

yes because they edited it in

[meager garden]

they patched those into the patch notes

[normal mountain]

they patched the patch notes

[meager garden]

yuop

[normal mountain]

say that 6 times when you've had 10 pints

[cursive kayak]

patchception

[merry whale]

1.0
no strength mention
look inside
removed from game

[normal mountain]

lol

[crude dragon]

Hi

[lucid bronze]

strength will now give negative damage reduction

[orchid acorn]

no strength mentioned in patch notes
open it
its now a damage penalty for 50% DR

[polar abyss]

“New Update!”
Looks inside
No Photochad
No Roffle
“Who are all of these Hot people?”

[normal mountain]

Strength Arcana.. removed from game. - (NEW!) The ace card. - gives 50% damage buff to hecate

[crude dragon]

❓

[orchid acorn]

yknow theoretically if it worked both ways...

speedrun arcana lfg

[lucid bronze]

buff medea

[bitter vapor]

Hey, is anyone else having trouble launching the game? I was able to run it two weeks ago, but since the new Steam update, it won’t start anymore

[polar abyss]

It’s a meme from the Balatro community, because a lot of Roffle’s videos (a YouTuber) has Photograph and Hanging Chad.

[potent relic]

Any news on release time for steam

[meager garden]

Altar of Ashes

• Strength: reworked! Now grants bonus gold for each enemy defeated in a run.

[merry whale]

if ur on mac, there's a solution in #h2-tech-support

[lost wing]

yes

[orchid acorn]

<t:1758816000:F>

[cursive kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-locket-photograph-hanging-chad-photochad-balatro-gif-12609521762114386191

[bitter vapor]

Windows lol

[potent relic]

ET? Thanks.

[orchid acorn]

Its your local timezone

[potent relic]

Oh interesting. Cool.

[meager garden]

PST

[merry whale]

ah, prob go to #h2-tech-support anyway and ask bout it

[orchid acorn]

there hasn't been any hades 2 updates in the past like 2 months

[meager garden]

EDT is noon

[bitter vapor]

I speak about STEAM UPDATE

Not Hades

[meager garden]

dead game?

[polar abyss]

Yes. Because there’s a lot of Dead people

[crude dragon]

It'll go live when I wake up on a day off, life is good

[lost wing]

it's over

[meager garden]

why did sgg abandon us

[orchid acorn]

sales were down

[lucid bronze]

i will get back from work at like 5:45 💔

[orchid acorn]

on to make pyre 2

[lucid bronze]

almost an hour behind

[meager garden]

I will be in school

[meager garden]

wait nvm sgg based?

[crude dragon]

Every day we stray further from Greg

[orchid acorn]

its now a hybrid of lacrosse and volleyball

[meager garden]

I feel like sgg has been a lot less active on the socials for this time around

maybe I'm crazy idk

they used to repost fanart and stuff

[lost wing]

pyre 2 brainstorm:
dev 1: "okay, how do we shake up the formula a bit?"
dev 2: "hear me out. in Pyre we did underworld basketball--"
dev 1: "I like where you're going. so like this time maybe it's soccer"
dev 2: "that's an interesting idea. but actually I was thinking what if we did overworld basketball"

[meager garden]

what if they were in cars this time

[lost wing]

overworld bumper cars it is

[orchid acorn]

less active with fans in general tbh

like excluding this last update where we kinda were too loud to avoid with shiva and heph noise, look at the patch history and you won't see very many major shifts in the game with a next to it. Majority bugfixes or qol stuff

its like tools, sorceress drama and then shiva + heph in recent memory

heracles i guess is in response to people complaining maybe

[rose canyon]

why would chara make sgg be less active with their fans :(

[orchid acorn]

let me check if that is

[lost wing]

some of the stuff not marked with has also been feedbacked stuff so it's kind of not a perfect metric. like, there are things that got heavily feedbacked but I guess they already had on their radar

[orchid acorn]

it WAS !
Reworked Heracles combat encounters — vanquish specially-marked foes for a bounty in Gold
So ill count it

[long totem]

dude dont scare me like that 😟

[merry whale]

what was old heracles

[raven perch]

You just killed enemies for money iirc

[merry whale]

so same thing but just not marked

[cursive kayak]

old heracles sucked

I can’t remember much about old heracles but I distinctly remember not liking it (and I remember it used to not stop the timer lmao)

I think u just got like. 100 coins at the end or something

the marked system is much better

[lucid bronze]

old Heracles did literally nothing I thought

[raven perch]

I think it was similar to Nemesis where you had a counter

[orchid acorn]

im prety sure it was literally nemesis but surface

[raven perch]

I totally forget though

[orchid acorn]

the only difference is nemesis robs you

[raven perch]

It was Nemesis but Heracles didn’t steal your moneys afterwards

He just wouldn’t pay you

[orchid acorn]

yeah heracles rewarded you for killing more

NO

meow baited me

[raven perch]

?

[orchid acorn]

it wasn't that at all

you got paid no matter what

just the amount paid depended on how many you killed

[lucid bronze]

i thought it was literally just a counter i don’t even remember getting money

[orchid acorn]

you got the extra money as you killed the enemy

[raven perch]

Yeah and if you didn’t kill as many he wouldn’t pay you as much

[orchid acorn]

depending on the enemy you killed it varied

small enemies gave like 5 gold, big ass enemies were like 25

a lot of people were confused because you didn't get the money afterward

[raven perch]

My thing with that is like, how is that significantly different than a regular encounter

[orchid acorn]

but instead all enemies in that room gave money on kill

[orchid acorn]

think of it like you get double money reward on kill(was prob more than that statistically)

new heracles can give up to 180 gold nayway which is more than the previous version

[cursive kayak]

have any of you ever beaten nemesis with her having 0? ive gotten close but not actually done it.

is it similar to h1 with than where u get double reward?

[orchid acorn]

yes, but there is no double reward

[raven perch]

I don’t think I ever did but that’s cuz I suck

Did H1 give double rewards???

[orchid acorn]

i did learn from watching my friend play that you only bet for how much gold you have

so if you only have like 50 gold when you bet with nem, you can only win 50 gold

[cursive kayak]

if u beat than with than as zero yes u got 2 centaur hearts

[raven perch]

Damn

[orchid acorn]

idk when that changed cuase you used to be able to get 100 gold if you had 0

[wise ledge]

Mel with Circe growth boon is probably like two Zags tall

[raven perch]

She’s actually only barely as tall as Icarus . Meli is smol 😔

Granted Zag is also small as hell

[wise ledge]

Imagine if Mel grew up super buff and big as her dad

Like on Skelly statues

[rose canyon]

[scoffs] short one.

[nocturne zenith]

i think mel and zag share the short genes. standing her next to icarus in the crossroads it looks like she comes up to his shoulder? and icarus is (was) mortal, not a god of any sort.
https://imgur.com/wH62XDk

either that or icarus is just a big boi for some reason

[raven perch]

She comes up to his breasticles

[devout abyss]

3 days?

[raven perch]

Icarus is a freak of nature and should not be counted

[raven perch]

Nope still 4

[nocturne zenith]

thursday 9am pacific us time

[devout abyss]

its 2 days for me

[raven perch]

You’re crazy

[rose canyon]

WHY IS HE SO BIG

[nocturne zenith]

i think

[devout abyss]

il lyk how it is

oh wait 2 hours i mean not 2 days

[raven perch]

Ry you’re trolling

[meager garden]

game came out last year idk what yall are talking about

[devout abyss]

uhhhh yeah definitely

i dont have hades 2 in my hands rn lol juuuuust a joke guys

[wise ledge]

<t:1758816000:R>

[raven perch]

I already know the ending

[devout abyss]

sister of the void

[raven perch]

Obviously

Tartarus is the void technically

[wise ledge]

Discord timestamps are cool. You can make them show how long until the date-time in the viewers local time zone

[devout abyss]

mister mushroom lands in the crossroads

[merry whale]

wing gaster

[raven perch]

Unix!

[devout abyss]

i hate viewerse

[meager garden]

I can't believe that's 2 highly anticipated indie games released in September 2025 end with intense yuri saving the day and defeating the bad guys

[raven perch]

Nyx and Persephone make out sloppy style and kill Chronos with the power of sapphic love

[nocturne zenith]

btw i did surface with no fear for the first time since turning on vow of rivals and prometheus said something along the lines of "heracles answers to a higher power. if you want to fight him again, you know how to make it happen." so, like, i know there's been lots of discussion in the past about who's side prometheus is really on and what's up with him and heracles but come on. there's GOT to be more than meets the eye here.

[meager garden]

peak

[nocturne zenith]

i really hope 1.0 ties up that particular plot thread

[raven perch]

The only thing here is that Heracles is a wage slave and Nyx is probably richer than god /j

[nocturne zenith]

i mean if i got the chance to be friendly with prometheus i definitely wouldn't turn that down iykwim

[raven perch]

They still haven’t fixed the slash commands

[meager garden]

/ban chronos

[nocturne zenith]

heracles too. we can be a throuple. no complaints.

[devout abyss]

the fun module is disabled???

[raven perch]

Yup

[devout abyss]

https://gyazo.com/965b3b8d397b68d6ba52ece37dbfef63

[rose canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/no-fun-allowed-no-fun-sonic-gif-3237927308381590617

[orchid acorn]

@devout abyss

[devout abyss]

googoo gaga

[orchid acorn]

can u check to see what the req for the aspect unlock is

[devout abyss]

which aspect

[orchid acorn]

its still beat hecate with first 5 right

[orchid acorn]

aspects in general

[devout abyss]

ass pecs

[orchid acorn]

also hecuba + gale cause had a guy telling me he got hecuba before toula and i highly doubt that changed

[orchid acorn]

im about to nocturnal your arms

[devout abyss]

kill hecate 5+ times and have 4 weapons unlocked

[raven perch]

I’m pretty sure it hasn’t

[orchid acorn]

they changed it noway

[devout abyss]

and not being a chaos bounty

the NPC unlock requires you to go surface 3 times in a row lol

[orchid acorn]

npc?

[devout abyss]

NPC hecate vs enemy hecate

[orchid acorn]

ah

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-17474838830648097856

and the hecuba + gale unlock?

[devout abyss]

have 2+ familiars, use frinos' gather, use raki's gather, interacted with toula or hecuba once, spend 2+ treats

[orchid acorn]

2+ treats instead of 3+ now

interesting choices

interacted with toula or hecuba once
im assuming this was a mistype

[devout abyss]

yes

gale

[orchid acorn]

makes me wonder if 3+ treats was an accidental mistype in previous versions

[raven perch]

So wait Toula’s gather isn’t necessary?

[orchid acorn]

cause it was always really weird to require 3 treats used AND use frinos + raki in previous version

[raven perch]

Huh! If so then it is possible

[orchid acorn]

yeah its never been required to use toula

was just "use 3 treats" and in order to use 3 treats you had to recruit toula

[devout abyss]

yeah i think they want toula to be optional to get hecuba

[orchid acorn]

you ended up being right, good catch.

this is why we do fresh file playthroughs on release to catch these new changes right gang

(or have ry on speeddial)

[long totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280383240280215614/1419453077643202590/image.png?ex=68d1d031&is=68d07eb1&hm=253c8cb5836a20457ae20d4aee4377ddfc2ab304bf6e41e0bf52dd786db32992&

HKASJDAKASD HUUHHH!!?!?!?!?!?????

[raven perch]

Yes welcome

Moros is a flerty boy

You shall be married in the morning

[cursive kayak]

i hate the dawn plotpoint. it sounds like it’s setting up for a stupid misunderstandings trope

[broken glen]

I love how much more creative the conditions for the romance scenes were in this game (well except for Eris but her’s was funny)

[cursive kayak]

the thing is, I don’t even inherently dislike the misunderstandings trope. but it has to be done well

[raven perch]

Yeah I hate it too

I don’t like it because it center’s Moros’ emotional journey on his romantic relationship with Mel

He chooses to defy the Fates because he has hope that he can court Mel- but what if Mel rejects him? Is it just proving the Fates right, that she’s not the one for him?

[cursive kayak]

imo the whole point of moros’ character arc is learning to think and live and feel for himself, and not just to be an extension of his sisters. bringing something like that up so late in the game is jarring

[raven perch]

Yup yup exactly

This should have been a thing since he first came to find Mel

Not something you unveil after however many gifts

[orchid acorn]

maybe im misinterperiting it but i understood it as it being open ended

cause they both seem to fit both eos and mel sorta

this way they can't be wrong

[raven perch]

It’s open-ended that it’s either Eos or Mel. If the prophecy is Mel that’s also bad

[orchid acorn]

either mel accepts moros or rejects and the path continue forwrad either wy

at the same time its basically how every prophecy works lowkey no? Generalized statements that can fit to so many things

[raven perch]

Think of it this way: Moros rejects Eos for Mel. if Mel rejects Moros, then is Eos now the right options? Are the Fates correcet in assigning him a lover he does not want and is not ready for?

[cursive kayak]

it’s bad bc if it is mel then it’s “oops it was a misunderstanding! it really is you” and if it’s not mel it’s a “my whole arc about choice and choosing how to live is directly contradicting this”

[raven perch]

What if Mel is the right option? Then Moros choosing Mel is just him following the Fates' plans for him, despite how he set out on this whole thing trying to Reject their control over his life

[raven perch]

This is exactly it

[orchid acorn]

all i care about is banging the spider at 1.0

human transformation optional atp

[broken glen]

Keep on dreaming

[raven perch]

Even if we don't bang the spider we should still romance her

[cursive kayak]

the thing is, the arc for moros was so solid until that point, it feels like such a damn fumble

[raven perch]

give kiss

[raven perch]

I didn't think it was especially solid because it was hardly realized 😅

Moros comes to the Crossroads and has to exist without his sister's foresight for the first time in his life. What does he do with that? Not much, apparently

Except crush on the first woman he meets who isn't his sister

[little mason]

While listening to you spin me round right round by Flo rida

[cursive kayak]

it’s small things imo, but you’re right honestly. he isnt doing a whole lot more

[raven perch]

None of the romances are doing a whole lot, really

[cursive kayak]

maybe that’s something they change or give better context to

or maybe i need to replay bc there’s dialogue ive forgotten

[raven perch]

They better. What I'm hoping for is that Love Interests will have a secondary questline outside of their romances

[cursive kayak]

I hope!

[little mason]

She will be the dusa of hades 2

[cursive kayak]

Arachne?

[little mason]

Yeah

[raven perch]

Eris deals with Nyx, Nem deals with Hecate. Moros with the Fates. Icarus with his involvement in the war

[cursive kayak]

i hope so too

[raven perch]

I don't really want to see Daedalus because I do kinda like that Icarus is (for the most part) over it

[cursive kayak]

I know a lot of people are mostly invested in the gameplay. and I love the gameplay too, don’t get me wrong. but it was the story of 1 that endeared me to it most

[meager garden]

it's weird that it's flipped for me

[raven perch]

I like the gameplay a lot but I would not care about this game if it weren't for the characters

[cursive kayak]

^^^

[raven perch]

expound oh wait nvm

[orchid acorn]

bad meme time https://imgur.com/PoaFTXk

[raven perch]

This is really awful and you should be ashamed

[cursive kayak]

granted I am a writer and like narrative focused so it makes sense that the story is important to me

[orchid acorn]

what is your opinion on peak fiction above

[west fossil]

Ah yes, """peak""".

[wise ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/peak-vinny-vinesauce-jerma-steroids-gif-3103987778992787353

[cursive kayak]

im gonna be so honest i dont know what thats from

[oak ivy]

Are you for real 😭

[orchid acorn]

https://i.redd.it/i-decided-to-read-the-source-of-a-cat-is-fine-too-funniest-v0-iex58a3cb5w91.jpg?width=770&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72c5d4a4660563dd2fa039c4319294a3ab237b6d

[orchid acorn]

see above

[cursive kayak]

OH

😭😭😭😭😭

[oak ivy]

Animal abuse isn't funny though... Arachne can at least consent..

🍅

[cursive kayak]

is this what weebs get up to

[orchid acorn]

the cat was originally a human

[oak ivy]

Yeah and the 8 year old is actually secretly a 10000 year old 🍅

[orchid acorn]

then that panel comes next

tsukihime peak

[cursive kayak]

im gonna be so honest things like that do not make me more inclined to get into anime or manga

[oak ivy]

Please say sike........

[orchid acorn]

sike

fate is better. rin best girl

[wise ledge]

Eh, there are a lot of people with weird tastes in every culture. Weird things just get memed a lot

[oak ivy]

Did you remove that?

[orchid acorn]

ye

[tranquil wren]

honestly, good choice

there's only like, two anime I can think of that do not contain any weird stuff in it

everything else is just creepy as sin

[raven perch]

It’s a little prejudiced to assume all anime is gonna be pervy

[meager garden]

just a lot of it

[cursive kayak]

there’s weird things in every genre for the most part

[tranquil wren]

lmao

[orchid acorn]

i think thats more of a seasonal anime being 90% trash

[raven perch]

American television is equally as weird

[orchid acorn]

and its like if you called all of western TV and i started pulling up modern housewives and pawn stars as peak cinema examples

[meager garden]

ok but it is

[tranquil wren]

I'm sure there's anime that does not play sexual harassment for laughs, but I can't find many

any time I watch something recommended, it's just trash

[orchid acorn]

there are a lot of absolute trash anime, and at least half of all seasonal is garbo peddling whatever novel they need to sell

[wise ledge]

Yeah, if you think about cult stuff like spongebob, griffins, simpsons and all that, they are gross and weird as hell

[cursive kayak]

hop off pawn stars i wanna see the cuckoo clock expert analyze the clock to see if it’s a modern reproduction or not

[meager garden]

I haven't watched anime in forever, I just read trash manga lol

[wise ledge]

I haven't seen them when I was growing up, and god damn that stuff is gross

[raven perch]

Like watch ghibli movies

[meager garden]

simpsons is gross?

[tranquil wren]

spongebob does not have sexual harassment

[meager garden]

wait simpsons is... cult stuff???

now Im' confused

[orchid acorn]

a sleeper at least IMO is Run With the Wind

[raven perch]

It probably does

[tranquil wren]

studio ghibli is great

[bronze oak]

Frieren, Fullmetal alchemist, witch hat atelier, basically any manga written by women

[raven perch]

Do you not remember the panty raid episode :/

[tranquil wren]

lmao ngl not really

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/panties-undies-panty-raid-patrick-spongebob-gif-5611702

[cursive kayak]

(I do have the flip side of my friends having impeccable taste and being into good anime and manga too. I mainly just never have gotten around to any of it. feels like too much of a commitment)

[bronze oak]

The tickling episode was sus

[tranquil wren]

I agree with fma brotherhood and witch hat atelier. not watched frieren

[meager garden]

sailor moon?

[bronze oak]

Would recommend its so good

[tranquil wren]

not watched that either, but isn't that more for early teens

[tranquil wren]

okay but if there's a SINGLE sexual harassment scene I will be very mad!

[meager garden]

if you want anime specifically for adults there's less of that, I think

[cursive kayak]

honestly as long as it’s enjoyable who cares

[bronze oak]

Honestly cant think of one but you can shoot me or something if you find one

[cursive kayak]

avatar: the last airbender is a kids show and it’s my favorite show of all time

[tranquil wren]

I won't shoot you

[meager garden]

does... berserk count? it has sexual harassment but like

[tranquil wren]

atla is peak, true. same with lok

[orchid acorn]

anyway
FMAB
Run With the Wind
Silver Spoon
Chihayafuru

there are a lot of anime that aren't weird tropes, it just so happens that those weird tropes sell well and the young/teen adult male in japan eats it for breakfast and want to see panty shots

[cursive kayak]

(I didn’t watch it as a kid, I watched it as an adult, so this is without nostalgia bias)

[bronze oak]

Sexual harassment is an understatement.....

[meager garden]

fr

[orchid acorn]

a silent voice is also a peak movie

[cursive kayak]

batman: the animated series can be considered a kids cartoon but is also peak

[raven perch]

Atla has a sexual harassment scene just so you know

[cursive kayak]

same with og teen titans

[meager garden]

gravity falls is another good one

[tranquil wren]

yeah, iroh and the tracker

[bronze oak]

Real but it makes me so sad because of the arson attack

[tranquil wren]

so so bad

they could have just never included that scene and it would all be fine

[bronze oak]

TEEN TITANS WAS SO PEAKKK

[tranquil wren]

atla as a kids show is different to me because it's not based on a villain of the week premise

I think sailor moon is, and teen titans also (though it has some story arcs as well)

[raven perch]

Steven universe?

[rapid osprey]

Atla is might be aimed towards kids but it has genuinely some of the best storytelling I have ever seen

[meager garden]

didn't steven universe kinda fall off

[raven perch]

It did but a lot of that was cuz of studio meddling

[tranquil wren]

never watched stephen universe tbf

[raven perch]

I still hold that SU has some excellent writing

[tranquil wren]

but I've heard the owl house is similar

and that was great

[raven perch]

I’d say SU is a bit more mature than Owl House in some regards.. and a bit less so in others

[meager garden]

oh yeah I heard Over the Garden Wall was good

[raven perch]

Oh yeah OtGW is excellent

Perfect for the fall season

[tranquil wren]

american 🫵

sorry

[orchid acorn]

yall gotta watch running with the wind frfr

[tranquil wren]

ty for the recs

[rapid osprey]

yall gotta watch Vinland Saga fr fr

[tranquil wren]

castlevania is a very good animated show

[rapid osprey]

I've seen it. genuinely peak

[tranquil wren]

I watched vinland saga season 1, was not really impressed

[meager garden]

I fell off castlevania after dracula got unundeaded

[tranquil wren]

the protagonist is so whiny and such a loser

[rapid osprey]

oh you're in for one of the greatest character arcs of all time

[raven perch]

Oh sorry I should’ve called it 秋节 /lh

[tranquil wren]

I watched a bit of season 2 where's he's just chopping at trees

[rapid osprey]

Thorfinn being flawed and misguided in the first season is exactly what makes his growth so good

[tranquil wren]

but tbf he had that cool moment where he defended himself against that guy

[rapid osprey]

also Askeladd is a fantastic character imo

[tranquil wren]

I hate that guy

[rapid osprey]

I love to hate him

[tranquil wren]

lol

wait what

[rapid osprey]

lmaooo

[tranquil wren]

okay what

ohhh I see

[meager garden]

did wotakoi ever get a second season

[oak ivy]

Dyno doesn't discriminate...

[tranquil wren]

everyone sucks except for canute

[meager garden]

I really liked that anime

[tranquil wren]

there we go, alternate spelling

[orchid acorn]

thats what im here for

[rapid osprey]

that's the whole point of the world. Its a cruel place. Thorfinn at the start of season 2 feels so soulless because his entire life and personality was based on revenge and when the guy he was chasing died, he was basically left as an empty shell. Season 2 shows him start to rebuild his life once again and finally see some semblance of true happiness

even canute gets tainted a little in season 2

[tranquil wren]

yea that's fair but it wouldn't hurt to have some redeeming quality in the main characters

but I just hated them all

[rapid osprey]

yeah that's kinda the point. The morality of that world is very different from what we consider good or bad now

Askeladd kills Thors, but it really was nothing personal and just another day on the job for him

[tranquil wren]

well idk about that lol. the killing of hundreds of villagers is not what you'd consider good even back then

gosh dang it

I think castlevania does it better at showing differing moralities in the form of trevor, sypha, and alucard

[rapid osprey]

well viking culture was very much based on strength being absolute and plundering and destruction was part of their identity

[tranquil wren]

still doesn't make me like them or want to continue watching

[rapid osprey]

fair enough. Its not really a show for everyone and I understand that

[tranquil wren]

I can only feel invested if I can at least empathise with the main character, even if I disagree with what they're doing

[wise ledge]

I tried to read it, but it felt boring af

[meager garden]

hm what's the last series I watched/read that had a protag I really disliked

[rapid osprey]

Waltuh

[tranquil wren]

lol

[meager garden]

lmao

[rapid osprey]

damn this is the second time today that one of my favorite pieces of media is being slandered 😔 Maybe I just have terrible taste 💔

[wise ledge]

Nah, most people find it really good. It's probably me who has bad taste, I like reading slop

[rapid osprey]

you like reading slop? may I recommend Rent a Girlfriend? 💀

[wise ledge]

Nah that's too much even for me

[meager garden]

I prefer good slop like 100 gf

[rapid osprey]

straight up one of the worst pieces of fiction on the planet

[plain remnant]

So y'all doing new game for 1.0 or continuing current save?

[wise ledge]

I've been reading for the first ~200 chapters, then bailed out. Looked into it like 150 chapters later, and they are still going at all that.

[meager garden]

current save

[rapid osprey]

both kinda

[cursive kayak]

current save, then starting a new one once I’ve finished

[plain remnant]

I think I'll have to do that same, I was planning on new save, but I'm going on holiday on the Saturday it comes out, so I don't have much time to get the full ending

[wise ledge]

https://i.imgur.com/H4iwSXR.png

[tranquil wren]

I'm definitely continuing

I've only beaten Typhon once anyway

[meager garden]

I don't think I'd feel much joy working through old dialogue to get to new dialogue, either

[plain remnant]

Ive played since beta release date, so I wanna see how the games changed from a new game perspective

[plain remnant]

I'm sure they've added/tweaked dialogue though since original launch

[cursive kayak]

it’s been a long while since I’ve read the older dialogue which is why I don’t necessarily mind doing it again. but im finishing my 400+ hr save file first

[plain remnant]

I think Im on the same page here, I'll get the full 100% game save then do another game (hopefully in the hellish game mode)

[tranquil wren]

I've never actually tried hell mode, what does it do?

[orchid acorn]

enabled some pacts you can't turn off, and disabled zags invulnerabiltiy window between hits

[tranquil wren]

ah

[orchid acorn]

think it was grit hordes pain and scars 1 equivalents

[cursive kayak]

it totals to like 5 heat though so it’s not bad at all lol

yeah

[orchid acorn]

plus the unique pact of punishment you can't get without playing on hell mode

which disabled the iframes like i said above

[plain remnant]

Imagine if hell mode in Hades 2 gives Mel a stamina bar lol

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-nick-nickelodeon-patrick-gif-17195320

supay users in shambles with the 5th targeted nerf

[meager garden]

there would still be a LOT of dialogue I've heard before
Especially since Hades 2 only lets you get 1 conversation per run, basically

[orchid acorn]

yeah lot of stuff that has been rerecorded or shifted

they changed the delivery on dora witch for example iirc

[plain remnant]

Yeah I saw on Reddit today, someone started playing and within their first few runs, had artimese singing in the cross roads

Like that's a very different kinda start

[orchid acorn]

more that her requirements to show up are very low. doesn't really change much

[plain remnant]

Yeah but she didn't used to do that at all lol

[raven perch]

Which is schtewpid

[orchid acorn]

i don't even think she has that much dialogue period in the crossroads

[raven perch]

She doesn’t

A lot of it is just “mel come sing with me!”

[orchid acorn]

yeah im looking at the file now its literally 90% repeatable or generic

[meager garden]

and "we don't talk about business here"

[raven perch]

Arty please say something normal

[cursive kayak]

I only remember like 1 or 2 instances of artemis dialogue by the cauldron

[meager garden]

I miss orpheus

[plain remnant]

I'm hoping they add some feature where you can choose your hex in the crossroads with arty

[raven perch]

Why does Artemis even come to the Crossroads if she’s not gonna do anything

No I don’t care that she sings

[raven perch]

Wait why would Artemis let Mel choose her hex

[meager garden]

(I don't even like the song that much)

[orchid acorn]

ArtemisHubFirstMeeting01 ArtemisHubAboutChronosBoss01 ArtemisHubSinging01/02/03/04

.... and thats it

[vital hollow]

Okay, is there some sort of hidden requirement to get Hymn to the Eye of Night from Circe, I've been playing for over 120 hrs and haven't seen it once

[plain remnant]

Because artimis is as much of a moon goddess and Apollo is a sun god

[orchid acorn]

thats actually crazy work

[raven perch]

We should take Artemis to the hot springs or something man whatever

[orchid acorn]

Have an offensive hex.

[cursive kayak]

selene is the one who has hexes not artemis though

[long totem]

him and nem fighting for us lmao

[raven perch]

Apollo isn’t even a sun god in this though… he’s a “light” god

[plain remnant]

They are still very related

[long totem]

and mel like: why one when we can have two?

[raven perch]

Not quite

[raven perch]

There’s 4 actually

[long totem]

yesyes but im rejecting icarus and Eris said non commitment lol

[orchid acorn]

If you don't have a hex, you can't be offered it
If you're hex isn't offensive(does damage) you can't be offered it

Circe is a mid biome 2 NPC and you very likely aren't intentionally taking selene unless it was forced room 2 of ephyra before the courtyard and you didnt reroll it so the chances of you meeting those reqs are low

[raven perch]

How could you…

[plain remnant]

Apollo is the god of like 10 different things from prophercy, music, medicine, the sun, harvest and light. Artimis is the same

[cursive kayak]

casual relationship is still relationship

[raven perch]

Well yeah but that doesn’t negate that Artemis is not at all responsible for Mel’s hexes

[long totem]

https://tenor.com/view/lashes-gif-24544945

[raven perch]

She can have boons that boost the hexes! But that’s it

[orchid acorn]

she is like 10% responsible cause she can maek them crit

[stable jewel]

I just ran into a visual glitch. Didn't stop thew game or anything, but figured I would report it. What's the best channel to do that?

[raven perch]

Press F10 on your keyboard

[plain remnant]

I'm just saying it's not unreasonable that Artemis could have more of a role with the hex system

[stable jewel]

Ah, ty

[cursive kayak]

it wouldn’t make a ton of sense in game and would just be confusing imo

[wintry dagger]

Artemis duo hex boon should be +% crit chance on all sheeped enemies

[plain remnant]

Why not? They are literally silver sisters...

[orchid acorn]

not all silver is equal or something

[meager garden]

Artemis should give us the quest to unlock bounties for nightmare

[cursive kayak]

also like. so many of them are silver sisters. everyone with that crescent logo

[orchid acorn]

ngl i do wish there was a bit more interaction for some of these systems but they feel the game is done so w.e

[meager garden]

chat rank the silver sisters

[orchid acorn]

theres literally like 4
artemis
medea
selene
hecate

5 counting mel

[plain remnant]

All I'm saying is it thematically makes sense, and gives artimes a more significant role within the cross roads.

[orchid acorn]

actually is medea even one

[meager garden]

no

[orchid acorn]

so 4

[cursive kayak]

oh nvm LOL

[plain remnant]

Medea isn't a goddess and isn't a silver sister, just a witch

[raven perch]

Medea isn’t

[meager garden]

Chat rank the Unseen

[orchid acorn]

0/0 cause i can't see them

[meager garden]

so true

[raven perch]

Is John Cena a member

[cursive kayak]

mark grayson is bc he’s invisible

[raven perch]

Not his name!!

[plain remnant]

I think Circe should nearly be a silver sister tbf. She's close enough to a goddess

[slender sparrow]

Yes.

[oak ivy]

I wish you were a member of the Unseen then 🤭

[wise ledge]

You would need to donate a ton of darkness to hum then, so he can rank up

[little frost]

he has to earn it tbh tbh

no donations smh

[slender sparrow]

Rank U, for Unknowable

[granite mauve]

Rank S, for Styx

[broken glen]

Just get a gain boon

[wise ledge]

I wonder how much darkness I could get by playing all day for the next three days in hades 1. I need like 170k to get to the Unseen One

[hollow iron]

4 more days huh

[vital hollow]

Okay, weird discovery, I just got a the godsent Lunar Bean, but I don't have any Apollo boons, but I do have his keepsake.

[meager garden]

yeah keepsake should work as well I think

[raven perch]

It should yes

[west fossil]

Yup, it says in the requirements, any boon or their keepsake.

[atomic river]

exeptional talent has gotta be the best legendary ts is so good

i js beat 24 fear surface with it and nergal first time ever using nergal too

[west fossil]

Except for when it just doesn't work.

[atomic river]

whebn doesnt it work

is it bugged or somethin

[west fossil]

Uhh... It's mildly janky.

[west fossil]

For example, torch omega specials.

Also you get 2 daybreakers, but only 1 copies your specials.

I think nergal spins twice as long, while the other axes spin twice as fast.

I don't even know how it works with supay.

Momus only gets 1 extra shot total, instead of 3.

[atomic river]

the torches are purposefully unaffected i thought

[atomic river]

idk i was js spamming the special its op

[west fossil]

Nope, it works on omega attacks, and the tooltip even changes to represent that.

Coat attack second hit is base charge, instead of what you had it at, and special only gets 2 more rockets, instead of double.

[atomic river]

shi bruh idk its mad fun with the scythes and hammers though

[devout abyss]

the torch special is coded to not interact with exceptional talent

[atomic river]

thats what i thought

[wintry dagger]

exception to the talent

[sharp nymph]

how do u unlock the incant for picking up stuff when u leave the room

[raven perch]

@sharp nymph

[dusty tapir]

116 hours and I dont have this XD

I dont think I bothered to max all my familiars

[unkempt zodiac]

It's probably the fish

Oh dang even after all that time

[nocturne zenith]

i'm actually lowkey surprised i had all the fish by the time they added the incantation

[dusty tapir]

its probably both

[nocturne zenith]

like, chaos fish are annoying to get

[unkempt zodiac]

I was missing 1 but I continued to miss that one for approximately forever

[dusty tapir]

I use strength like 100% of the time so I havent leveled Toula much

[unkempt zodiac]

I'm still missing 2 fish types in hades 1 despite having way more playtime in that game

[nocturne zenith]

i was too scared to run strength for a long time so i took toula for everything by default just so i wouldn't have to do the fish minigame

[wise ledge]

I probably fished like a few times through all my 300+ hours, but I had the cat with me ever since I got her. Well, before they added the polecat.

[unkempt zodiac]

I took toula for that exact reason seeing as she's basically a downgrade 💀

[wise ledge]

Toula is cat. Cat is good.

[wintry dagger]

Me when I accidentally activated Greatest Gift of Gaia immediately when its patch went live -

[wise ledge]

Same

[unkempt zodiac]

Now that I have greatest gift I don't think I ever use toula

[cursive kayak]

greatest gift of gaia is so useful. once I start my fresh file my muscle memory of leaving the room is gonna mess me up so much😭

[wintry dagger]

Toula is an extra DD and DD is good for high fear now so there is legitimate reason to bring the cat

But pre-Strength nerf that wasn't much the case after getting all the fishies

[sharp nymph]

oh wow lol

i have alll my fams maxxed tho!

[empty fractal]

time flies...in a good way! 3 more days woooooo!

[wise ledge]

Three WHOLE days D:

[empty fractal]

god, imagine a dnd themed hades game though

[unkempt zodiac]

Nerfing strength was such a bad idea I really cannot understand why they would discourage the objectively better way to play the game

[dusty tapir]

well, if you dont count the rest of today and half of Thursday depending on timezone

[dusk mirage]

I roll to make a sarcastic joke to Typhon

[empty fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/nat-20-baldur's-gate-baldur's-gate-3-critical-sucess-gif-14789122616741343796

nat 20!

[dusk mirage]

Wait release is in 3 days?

Bro i got midterms this week

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[dusty tapir]

rip gpa

[empty fractal]

pain

risk the gpa...hades is foreva! im kidding follow your dreams

[cursive kayak]

<t:1758816000:f>

[dusk mirage]

Wait

It's right after midterms

SAFE

[empty fractal]

EH! NICE

wait a sec, is it 26 for you too ? at 12 am?

[dusk mirage]

Yesh

[empty fractal]

:0! eastern friendo

[merry whale]

prob only gonna be able to play thru 1.0 on friday... unless i do an all nighter 🤔

[dusk mirage]

We live in in a similar line across the eastern side of the planet

[little mason]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-staring-orange-cat-staring-cat-gif-13724146065807985297

My honest reaction

[empty fractal]

i cast 🍍

CANNON

[cursive kayak]

for me it’s noon on the 25th so im gonna have a lot of time to play

[empty fractal]

yipeee

[little mason]

Somewhere it will be the 25th before you

https://tenor.com/view/idi-naxui-gif-26345237

[wise ledge]

Doesn't it release on a specific global time and not your local date?

[meager garden]

it should be specific time

[cursive kayak]

yeah it’s a specific global time

https://x.com/supergiantgames/status/1968765145892421869?s=46&t=LH8TG7F7jhDBxlTV9sYbtQ

Supergiant Games (@SupergiantGames)

HADES II v1.0 arrives in less than one week!!🌒

It will be available worldwide at 9am PDT on Thursday, September 25, or your local time, on Nintendo Switch 2, Nintendo Switch, Steam, and the Epic Games Store.

X · Sep 18, 2025, 7:52 PM

[little mason]

some people will be sleeping when it is released 😭

[empty fractal]

if zaggy boy should make a return i really hope he gets a beard would make him look more mature!

[wise ledge]

I don't think he will have a beard - his model in the flashback (and the painting) was just his regular self, and from the looks of it he, unlike Hades, is in the stasis

[cursive kayak]

zag beard: broke
than long hair: woke

[cursive kayak]

yeah I don’t think there’s gonna be any character changes like that either

[meager veldt]

damn. i gotta get off socials and youtube dun wanna be spoiled

[little mason]

chronos is going to turn everyone into children

[cursive kayak]

they all turn into their nendoroid counterparts

[wise ledge]

Zag and Mel will be able to grow up together, how cute ❤️

[little mason]

why doesnt mel just athena dash when he turns her into a child

ez reflect

[wise ledge]

We need baby Chronos

[dusty tapir]

Athena dash nowhere near as good as it was in hades 1 huh

[little mason]

it was only good because you could dash 6 times

in a row

[meager garden]

it's still great

[cursive kayak]

it’s still a solid pick

it’s just not insanely broken like last game lol

since sprinting is a thing and it doesn’t apply for that

[meager garden]

(and usually locked behind using strength which some people find icky)

[cursive kayak]

ehhhh

u can still get athena naturally spawning

[meager garden]

yeah but not guaranteed purple, and also only for surface, and only for zone 3, and rng

[wise ledge]

Nice, I managed to beat dad in hades 1 on my tenth try on a fresh save. I've gotten rusty from playing hades 2 for too long huh, honestly thought I would beat him in maybe 5 attempts

[cursive kayak]

very fair

[meager garden]

still I pick it up all the time

you really do feel the extra iframes

[cursive kayak]

my 31/30 setup is a death build so I never really play strength.

i need to make a separate strength build

I just find seeing the 31 in the top left corner of my screen very funny

[old hemlock]

question, how do I get n mare? I did a run on 1 fear thinking I was gonna get some but I didnt so now im confused

[raven perch]

You get Nightmare by completing the Testaments of Night: the Oath of the Unseen should have some pictures of bosses with a certain weapon type + fear count associated with them. You need to defeat that boss at that fear level with that weapon

https://static0.thegamerimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/wm/2024/05/testament-activation-conditions-in-hades-2.jpg?q=49&fit=crop&w=825&dpr=2 in this image, Scylla is highlighted. You would then need to defeat Scylla at 2 fear with the Staff.

[dusty tapir]

wtf

I have never seen this screen before

or that vow

[idle crater]

thats the old UI

[dusty tapir]

ohhhhh

and I guess starting with 0 mana was a too easy to deal with

[crude dragon]

I mean, you can also lose all 3 DDs by Fields, take Amulet, and then get Survive Survive Survive from Echo

:3

[long totem]

In thirty minutes there will only be three days left which means we only have to wait 72 hours which means we have to wait 4320 minutes which means

I am being soooo normal about the release

[raven perch]

Not quite

[long totem]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-hitori-gif-27014251

[long totem]

It's 11:30 for me😭 the game comes out at 9 pm in Argentina

[spiral isle]

I'm pretty sure it's 83 hours away, no?

[dapper abyss]

Is it okay to continue my save for the V1 update or is it better to do an new game ?

Anything im gonna miss if i use saved games ?

[lyric matrix]

Entirely up to you.
If you want to replay from the beginning to get the story "as it was meant to be experienced all at once" then you can do that.
Or you can continue forward with your save, the only thing you should be missing is whatever you've forgotten while playing for the last X number of years or months

[lost wing]

https://tenor.com/view/flcl-amarao-naota-gif-26359850

[granite mauve]

when 1.0 releases im going to ghost social media so hard I WILL experience the epilogue unspoiled

[merry whale]

truth

[oak ivy]

why not play Silksong in the meanwhile?

[oak ivy]

I will mail a spoiler straight to your home 😈

[lyric matrix]

I'm just going to keep going back and forth between the underworld and surface until I stop getting new dialogue

[granite mauve]

NOOO

in the name of hades I reject these spoilers

[atomic river]

what do yall think the entropy for the final encantations wil be

[granite mauve]

id say its probably going to be from the fates

[glad plover]

it's gonna be hard for me since this is one of my busiest weeks of class so far, i have so many deadlines... but i WILL finish h2 unspoiled even if i have to uninstall some social media for the next week and a half

[oak ivy]

the most likely theory I've seen so far is that it's just a placeholder material and it will be removed with 1.0 oof

[granite mauve]

yeah that might also be it

[meager garden]

ur classmates on canvas are gonna spoil the ending for you

[granite mauve]

I feel like they would have given it an icon to more accurately express that though like a clock face

and not weird pink blob thingy

[oak ivy]

if that happens cyver would be like:🗿

[granite mauve]

🗿👎

moyai disapproval

[oak ivy]

🗿 VS

who wins?

[glad plover]

my school isn't smart enough to have canvas 💪 been struggling through blackboard since '23

[granite mauve]

if bouldy used his ambiguity bonus it might give me a little trouble

[long totem]

THAT'S EVEN WORSE

[long totem]

... I won't lie chat... I didn't play hollow knight😔

[oak ivy]

omg you have a lot of catching up to do then!

play hollow knight first and then silksong!! these two games will already cover you for like a month!

[long totem]

I think I'll try (taking a break from cs till Tuesday lol), because I didn't get too far in the PS5. I do watch a friend play silksong

Love the musiccc

[oak ivy]

it's greattttt

genuinely 11/10, it's in my top 3 games of all time now.......

but yeah it's highly recommended to play the original hollow knight first

[long totem]

https://tenor.com/view/sherma-silksong-hornet-music-dance-gif-10959803614592847416

[long totem]

My favorite thing ever:

[meager garden]

hollow knight still holds up dw about it being old and crusty

[oak ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-lace-laugh-villain-laugh-evil-laugh-gif-15852753054655955151

[oak ivy]

it really does!

[meager garden]

guys break it up we'll get obliterated if we talk too much about silksong

[long totem]

Eh, I played KH 1, I'll be okay with old and crusty lol

[crude dragon]

Can confirm, the original HK is still quite good

[oak ivy]

mods are asleep shhhh don't wake them up

🙂‍↕️

[meager garden]

I went back to do some godhome for funsies and it was like riding a bike

[long totem]

I miss my son Sora chat😔

[rapid osprey]

speaking of old and crusty games, do yall have a moment to talk about our lord and saviour Dark Souls 2?

[crude dragon]

I'm almost finished with it, just need to get the Artist, Sage, and Knight Pantheons done, and the Void Heart endings

And NKG

[long totem]

I think that game is from before I was born

[meager garden]

Waiter, waiter! another knight please!

[oak ivy]

😭 nooo if you want to level adaptability you can go do that alone ➡️🚪

[cursive kayak]

I hope not considering you’d be too young to be on discord

[rapid osprey]

but guys! majula tho!

[long totem]

Scratch that, I thought that game was pre 2006

[meager garden]

wasn't dark souls 1 like, 2012 lmao

[crude dragon]

Bear seek seek lest

[cursive kayak]

2014 was dark souls 2

[long totem]

Yeah no I thought it was older😭 like 2004 or smth

[rapid osprey]

it certainly feels like it lol

[meager garden]

it does feel like a series that coulda gone all the way back to the ps2

[scenic gust]

hmm Carnal Desire and Success Rate ain't working together. The rate should be higher when picking Plasma but it isn't

[long totem]

I genuinely thought it had premiered on ps2

[oak ivy]

what's Carnal Desire again?

[scenic gust]

Plasma for Hearthrob from Ares/Aphrodite. 35% rate

[oak ivy]

ohh

[crude dragon]

Nerfed Open Heart, Ares/Aph Duo

[rapid osprey]

dark souls 1 is still s classic tho. Just don't talk about the bit after getting the lord vessel and before the dlc...

bed of chaos and four kings 💀

[long totem]

I can't talk about ds but I can talk Kingdom Hearts oh kingdom hearts

https://tenor.com/view/mickey-mouse-kingdom-hearts-king-mickey-mickey-mouse-kingdom-hearts-choke-gif-23602089

[oak ivy]

demon's souls is such a classic too.. Just don't talk about the bit after the beginning of the game and before the end of the game.....

[crude dragon]

Would like to remind everyone that Carnal Pleasure used to be guaranteed Heartthrob on blood pickup and it still wasn't great

[long totem]

Ohhh yeah I remember that boon

[cursive kayak]

yeah :/

[rapid osprey]

TRUE! that game is some real ass. You couldn't pay me to play it again. ppl dog on ds2 and forget that demon souls exists

[cursive kayak]

they just need to buff heartthrobs

like every scenario heartthrobs are in they need buffed

[oak ivy]

I will still dog on ds2 (I haven't played either haha) 🤭

[rapid osprey]

I'm sure DeS was great for its time but it did NOT age well

[oak ivy]

yeah probably! it had a dedicated following from what I understand!

[long totem]

Literally, heartthrobs is the boon you grab when you have nothing else (still aph is OP so)

[crude dragon]

Also, Open Heart was a better name because it was a double entendre

[rapid osprey]

even ppl who don't know the first thing about soulslikes still bash ds2 😔

[crude dragon]

Open (adjective) for Aphro
Open (verb) for Ares

[meager garden]

can't wait for the bluepoint ds2 remake

[long totem]

Shameless attitude + healthy rebound are crazy, and if u have the one that gives you hp based on ur mana you're pretty much immortal.

[oak ivy]

well I've seen some lets plays! the animations on your character look so wonky 👀
also adaptability is awful... 😭
and it wasn't directed by miyazaki....

[rapid osprey]

trust me, it plays even worse than it looks 😭

[oak ivy]

😭

lmaooo

[long totem]

fought Typhon with 600 hp😭

[rapid osprey]

only good thing about ds2 is lore and the art direction in the locations, but that's kinda just consistent for all fromsoft games

[oak ivy]

you can push these numbers even further tbh!

[long totem]

Yes! That was as far as I got on that run

I want to try aph And Dem duo with Heph heroic health boon. Plus security system

The aph boon that gives you health and mana perm and shameless attitude.

[rapid osprey]

there's also Fume Knight and Sir Alonne in the dlcs which are really cool fights, and Shulva, sanctum city is one of the coolest designed dungeons in the trilogy

[meager garden]

dlc is cool

[rapid osprey]

but those redeeming factors are kinda nothing compared to the mountain of issues the game has

[meager garden]

Dark souls 1: 1 dlc
Dark souls 2: 3 dlc
Dark souls 3: 2 dlc

why fromsoft

[oak ivy]

nothing will beat Ashes of Ariandel for me though!!!! that area was sooo majestic

[rapid osprey]

sekiro: 0 dlc 💔

[oak ivy]

elden ring: 1 omega-dlc !!!

[meager garden]

I was trying to forget it 😭

[oak ivy]

see I said "omega", we're still on topic for hades 2

[rapid osprey]

It's a matter of taste because I rarely ever like plain snowy areas in any game. mountaintops of the giants is also my least favorite location in ER. I LOVE Friede tho, so Ashes of Ariandel is automatically S tier just because of her

[meager garden]

why is sekiro the only game to have a bossrush mode

[oak ivy]

yeah snowy areas are like my fav 💔

[meager garden]

where is my ds3 godhome

[oak ivy]

that death fakeout REALLY messed with me so much 😭

but yesss it's one of the best fights ever made by From Soft

[rapid osprey]

society when fromsoft actually starts adding a boss rush to all their games:

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

[meager garden]

friede is cool and all but I'm not about to do 20 hours of walking to rematch her once

[rapid osprey]

bro I can beat the entirety of ds3 in like 8 hours lol. Its a very linear and short game

it makes the perfect game to replay when I'm bored on a weekend but also dont have like 30 hours for an elden ring replay

[crude dragon]

Isn't there a bonfire within spitting distance of her arena?

[meager garden]

the walkback is starting a new game