h2-discussion

[orchid acorn]

have you actually like. talked to dora.

[cinder gorge]

yeah

I talk to every npc every time

[orchid acorn]

im at work so i can't look up the unlock reqs but i recall them being VERY easy

[cinder gorge]

she keeps going on about Prometheus even though I already beat him like 10 times

[orchid acorn]

yeah you need dialogue from prometheus to continue her story

[cinder gorge]

last time I tried rivaled polyphemus and got my ass handed to me by Medea and then proceeded to wait for 1.0 xD

[orchid acorn]

if your doing rivals prometheus that just adds even more dialogue into the mix

[cinder gorge]

haven't gotten that far sadly

I wanted to unlock rivals sirens to hear the new song

[orchid acorn]

common charybdis L

[cinder gorge]

charybdis has nothing to do with this lol

[orchid acorn]

yes it does.

[cinder gorge]

I couldn't beat rivals polyphemus

[orchid acorn]

In order to unlock rivals sirens you need to meet charybdis at least once technically

but if the roadblock is losing to rivals poly then 😔

[cinder gorge]

isn't the requirement to beat both tier 1 bosses on rivals?

[orchid acorn]

Yes, AND specifically for rivals 2 meet charybdis

[cinder gorge]

I killed charybdis like 20 times

[orchid acorn]

because hes in that fight and they don't want players going "Wtf who is this"

[cinder gorge]

back when she appeared in every single surface run

haven't seen her since that one patch

[cinder gorge]

I mean come on

that fight is tough okay

unless there was a nerf to Medea since release that I don't know about

I tried that fight like day 1 the update dropped

[orchid acorn]

its been nerfed yes

[cinder gorge]

how big was it?

[orchid acorn]

no longer breaks fountains
Fountains clear all poison in a decent AOE around the fountain
Fountains recharge their use faster
poly grab range reduced

pretty massive, like it nuked the boss basically hes free for the most part

[cinder gorge]

okay that's pretty big yeah

[orchid acorn]

still taxing on strength players cause they can't rely on reducing the 1hp poison ticks but

like the boss is a joke compared to day 1 unseen

[cinder gorge]

yeah day 1 was insane, I could barely get him down to half health lol

legit harder than day 1 prometheus

[slim pike]

Don't shun that double heart room in Ephyra

[cinder gorge]

at this point I'll just wait for 1.0 I think

I still gotta beat silksong

[fathom lake]

Same!

[orchid acorn]

i am a centaur heart addict

the fact artemis can spawn there just makes it even better

[slim pike]

I had sea star proc on that before, feelsgoodman

[fathom lake]

Same

[normal mountain]

I bet the requirements will be quite alot, which means even more grinding I cba with. lol.. I'll just wait for spoilers. cause no doubt they'll be a ton.

[orchid acorn]

they added in the requirements a few patches ago on accident for the typhon incantation, and they were very low(i had <10 void lens's and it was showing white)

has since been removed but i guarantee you it'll be some variation of like 10 to mirror h1 probably. So 20 total for both routes or something

[granite mauve]

I believe in the code it was 5 void 5 sand total to get both incantations

[orchid acorn]

i'd believe it.

for both is crazy though lmao

[normal mountain]

for the record, spoilers don't bother me. - it might do for others though.

[dire sand]

Tbf we have #h2-for-new-players

[normal mountain]

20 more runs 💀 potentially lol

[dusky mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-warlock-marvel-rivals-born-again-adam-warlock-gif-14928195181941100344

[paper marsh]

guys whats a really strong boon/duo boon for a cast build?

[twin apex]

what is adam warlock if not just male hera?

[mystic hornet]

JUST ONE MORE WEEK MOOFOOOSSS ASFJHGSDJLFHASKJFJSAndasDG

[pallid cradle]

I got absorbed by no man's sky. What is a Hades or Silksong. Damn

[bright fern]

this might be a dumb question better asked closer to release, but does anyone know what Time the game drops on the 25th ?

[dusky mountain]

Winners Circle

[merry whale]

it prob gonna be whenever they feel like it

usually it lands between 9am-12pm pacific

[daring sun]

whats the best of the dagger and sicle ?

[cerulean lake]

I hope its early enough in the evening for me

Ughhghgh i wish i could skip work to play hades

[fathom lake]

Morrigan or Mel blades

Pan its kinda low now
Notbad though

[daring sun]

whats morrigan

[twin apex]

RIP panseidon

[cursive kayak]

the secret aspect

[fathom lake]

Idk WHOs Morrigan
but the wHat morrigan its secret aspect

[daring sun]

haha I beat bosses on both sides but barely unlocked any of these secret stuff

[oak ivy]

it takes a while to unlock the hidden aspects

[twin apex]

isn't it technically The Morrigan? isn't it like a coven of 3 gods? idk other mythologies that well

[twin apex]

also i just realized, goated username tbh

[oak ivy]

lmaooo

[fathom lake]

💖
Hades II - Olympus Aflame

[twin apex]

i've said this before and i'll say it again:

SGG if you're reading this, please give me the full score for olympus aflame and my life will be yours

[fathom lake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZqyPhatEpg

Now your life is mine/j

[bright fern]

literally asked the question coz i’m trying to find time to pencil in hades 2 play time into next thursday Bruh

[royal sluice]

Is the official steam release of v1.0 the same date as the switch 2 release ?

[orchid acorn]

digital yes
physical no

[orchid acorn]

more or less exactly 7 days exactly from now the game will release

give(mostly likely) or take an hour

[twin apex]

how was i not aware of this before?

[daring sun]

oh think I have 2 without knowing they were secret

[oak ivy]

which ones?

[cerulean lake]

Its midnight rn nooo

Well at least ill basically get it friday then i can just play all night

[daring sun]

actually only 1

[oak ivy]

Rip asian time zones 😔 (or australian?)

[cerulean lake]

(manila 😔)

[daring sun]

I have nergal, I barely use the axe aswell lol

[oak ivy]

yeah you unlock the secret aspects ones you've upgraded the regular ones enough

so it implies you fully upgraded some axe lol

[daring sun]

oh, thought you needed to talk to someone to get them

[oak ivy]

yeah you first need to upgrade one of them to max and THEN talk to someone

[orchid acorn]

you did. but to get the option to talk to people theres hidden requirements in the game

basically everything in the game is tied to other stuff

hidden aspects require

• all 6 base weapons unlocked
• all 3 aspects of a specific weapon unlocked
• at least 1 of those 3 level 5

THEN you get the option to talk to specific NPCS that will give you the waking phrase, and that NPC is related to the characters with aspects in the game currently.

[daring sun]

ohh

[orchid acorn]

for example nergal required charon, and there is a charon axe

[oak ivy]

I like how Pronto always has an essay ready for this stuff

[orchid acorn]

i literally just typed that up

[oak ivy]

🤭

[orchid acorn]

[oak ivy]

essay ready in your head*

[daring sun]

its tied to gifting or no?

[orchid acorn]

directly no.

[oak ivy]

I like how Pronto is always being semantic 🤭

[orchid acorn]

in a roundabout way maybe probably

i don't recall how you unlock aspects in the first place

[oak ivy]

you should be gifting everything to everyone anyways tbh!

[daring sun]

well I just recently realized the book on C

[orchid acorn]

i think its beat hecate with the first 5 weapons so i don't think thats gift related

hecate gives it to you on your 3rd win

[twin apex]

it's an incantation no?

[orchid acorn]

ye i recalled it like 5 seconds after i wrote that

couldn't remember HOW you got that until i did

[oak ivy]

also you know the person you need to talk to because it's the person of the 2nd aspect of each weapon (aspect of Selene, aspect of Charon, Moros, etc)

@daring sun

[daring sun]

yeah

[azure marsh]

chat I need your opinion again for the same question: will you start from a new save or keep your old sone going

[oak ivy]

old one going !

[daring sun]

but moros wont give me the one I want

[oak ivy]

#h2-discussion message

[daring sun]

oh

[orchid acorn]

moros has the exception that he can't be the literal 1st aspect

[azure marsh]

do you not feel fomo for the new interactions that may or may not exist at the beginning or am i mentally insane

[oak ivy]

this person said they got Nergal already

[daring sun]

I need to actually unlock

[orchid acorn]

99% of new interactions are retroactive

[daring sun]

lmao I just had it available

[orchid acorn]

you'll just play them out of order

see how i was yapping about medea and mel questioning what was on the mountain making all that noise

when i had already killed typhon like 20 times

[azure marsh]

me after having intercourse with all the chars "so whats your favorite color"

[oak ivy]

the game is structured in a way that you don't really miss out on anything I don't think..
but even then, not really, I only care about the endings now haha

[orchid acorn]

that being said restarting has some good implications on experiencing the story in order as intended

[daring sun]

is that in the pool?

[orchid acorn]

and ill restart after i see the initial ending

though honestly im debating on that cause im now realizing that i won't get to play with the new keepsakes and stuff at 1.0 if i do restart

[azure marsh]

oke so I keep my save file and just play for the endings, if I regret it it's not my fault and I will curse you people in chat

[orchid acorn]

idk ill prob make a new file eventually

[azure marsh]

OH CMON I JUST MADE UP MY MIND

[oak ivy]

feel free to curse me!

[raven perch]

Just do what Im gonna do and get the endings then restart

[oak ivy]

that's too much tiiiiime

[orchid acorn]

i flip flop a lot cuase i know im gonna be skilled enough to win.. fairly fast and break the meta anyway

[azure marsh]

thats also my issue I already have 82 hours in the game

[orchid acorn]

and then the grind is a negative, even if its marginally better

but experiencing the story fresh in over a year will be good

but its a story i already know for the most part

[azure marsh]

I mean 82 hours of fun which isnt bad but with media now new stuff constantly releases

[oak ivy]

I don't want to play without having my arcana unlocked.... I genuinely won't be able to get past Hecate without the Unseen 💔

🤭

[oak ivy]

I remember it so well because of meow always yapping about different story bits and reminding me of them! (thanks meow!)

[raven perch]

Yay! You’re welcome

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-stamp-death-gif-1064401640711287211

[raven perch]

Yeah for me i’m not gonna restart cuz there’s very little of the story that I don’t know

[orchid acorn]

make up your mind woman https://imgur.com/UXzqk9x

[azure marsh]

and I just wanted to agree with you now I am seeing evidence that you flip flop

cant even trust people on discord anymore

[oak ivy]

I am the only one that doesn't flip flop

I will only play on my current file !!!!

[orchid acorn]

i restarted for hades 1, for the record

just the meta progression in hades 2 scares me

i still have nightmares over driftwood

[cursive kayak]

while I want to experience the story in chronological order, I do think I’ll be able to put it in that order good enough where I wanna finish my file first

[orchid acorn]

buffed spawnrate in literally every major update in some way i think

[cursive kayak]

then I’ll start a new one

[raven perch]

I said I’ll restart laterrr I’m not restarting for 1.0 release cuz I don’t neeed toooo

[cursive kayak]

hard to abandon 400 hours of work lol

[azure marsh]

the only thing I am always short off are the tears that cerberus drops

[raven perch]

I’m not flip flopping I’m being consistent

[hollow mulch]

for me it's olive branches

[azure marsh]

the mods should make a poll or something so I can follow the crowd instead of thinking for myself

[raven perch]

Flip a coin

[oak ivy]

Tails

[raven perch]

The Fox

[azure marsh]

it gave me heads??? Which side was for what

[oak ivy]

Idk...

[raven perch]

You were supposed to decide that for yourself 😭😭

[oak ivy]

no that's Toby

[raven perch]

Heads you don’t restart

[oak ivy]

no no heads should be you DO restart

[azure marsh]

what are we doing here , I am just gonna finish the story on my old save man and if I feel bad for not seeing the new stuff I will restart gonna be an adult about it

[orchid acorn]

again you'll see the new stuff anyway

[azure marsh]

ok it was tails this time

[orchid acorn]

in 99.9% of caes

[oak ivy]

OKAY EVERYONE LETS COMPROMISE !!!!

• restart and play 50% of the story/progression
• then go back to the original save file and finish the story there

Problem solved 🤭

[raven perch]

I’ll die

[dire sand]

Let's compromise

• play game

[oak ivy]

that's like the worst option

[daring sun]

who is this https://gyazo.com/ad7450fbf27fac5ffdb73209afaece9e

[azure marsh]

too controversial

[oak ivy]

Prometheus

[cursive kayak]

prometheus

[daring sun]

oh ty

[dire sand]

Ye okay compromise

• dont play any games ever

[oak ivy]

hell yeah

[raven perch]

That’s my husband

[dire sand]

Solved

[oak ivy]

No he's taken >:(

[cursive kayak]

omg ur herc?

[oak ivy]

omg meow is heracles??

[raven perch]

We can share

[orchid acorn]

the very few things you won't see on an existing file are interactions like

• time limited chances, like fresh file meeting chronos/winning that you very likely weren't going to get anyway even if you DID restart
• any retroactive changes that CAN'T be done on existing files for whatever reason such as Revival of a Desecrating Pool for files pre unseen

i think thats it tbh. Everything else will still play, even if its hilariously out of order

[daring sun]

I want to be able to use heracles club

[oak ivy]

meow how strong are you?

[raven perch]

Not very strong at all

[oak ivy]

understandable 😔

[azure marsh]

oke I am 100% going to play on my old save, I was convinced

most likely going to watch one of those 1 hour essays how "Hades 2 story is deeper than you think" with someone just retelling the whole story

[raven perch]

Good. That’s what you should be doing

[normal mountain]

go gym, lift weights, get strong. 😛

[daring sun]

is ares boons actually good on twin flames? or am I just thinking that cause I got them latest? 😅

[orchid acorn]

like i said before, the only reason to replay is if you
A- need a refresher on the story as an early EA adopter and haven't done a playthrough in like 1.5 years
B- don't mind the grind

[raven perch]

I don’t think anybody has ever made that for H1 either

These stories are nottt that complicated lol

[azure marsh]

but they are cute

[raven perch]

They are cute

[orchid acorn]

i honestly can't think of a worse combination off the top of my head.

[daring sun]

😅

[normal mountain]

I'm doing a fresh run, finding out that all my best bits about the game have been nurfed to hell

[orchid acorn]

ares boons are ass in general but its not like the torch does anything for ares

[orchid acorn]

such as

[normal mountain]

mainly boons.

[daring sun]

but hephae's boon molten touch is really good right?

[normal mountain]

and heph, they've made him faurly useless.

[raven perch]

I don’t mind using ares on torch attack but it’s certainly not the best

[daring sun]

extra damage to armor seems good, no?

[raven perch]

It’s better than dem on torch attack at least

[orchid acorn]

if thats the armor one, its not exactly good

[daring sun]

oh

[orchid acorn]

but i wouldn't call it....like bad.

[normal mountain]

None of his boons seem to be any good anymore

[raven perch]

Molten Touch is the one that makes you do more damage to armour I think

[normal mountain]

Tough gain is ok

[orchid acorn]

it just exists. Its a premium now that the armor destroying hammers are pretty ass though

not something you actively seek out but its nice to have if you have heph

[daring sun]

ok then I'll take uncanny fortitude lol

[orchid acorn]

now that is a good boon

[daring sun]

extra life

ive mostly used zeus boons tbh

also hera got that born gain that is really nice

is cat the last familiar?

or can you get the dog and the squirrel?

[orchid acorn]

its a polecat, but yes

[oak ivy]

@buoyant matrix unleash your wall of text !!!!

it's your time

[orchid acorn]

🐸 Frinos 🐸 Found in mels bedroom. 20/30/40 max hp. Blocks projectiles, including hecate sheep hex. Landing on enemies deals 40 damage. Increases Shade 👻 spawn chances.
🕊️ Raki 🕊️. Found in Erebus Fountain. 2/3/4% universal crit. Pecks enemies for repeated small damage and marks them for an additional 15% crit chance. Increases Ore ⛏️ 🪨 chances to spawn
🐈 Toula 🐈. Found on the docks. Attacks 8/9/10(? i have no idea how this scales now post buff) times for 99 damage each. must dash or sprint over toula to activate. Grants 1 60/70/80 hp death defiance. Increases Fish 🐟 chances to spawn.

After bonding with the above 3, using their abilities in runs AND upgrading 4 total times across any pets can you unlock the following two pets by talking to hecate

🐕 Hecuba 🐕 - Found in Echos chamber. 30/45/60 max magick. Stuns enemies on a 6~ second cooldown. Digs up magick restoring potions when you are low and occasionally digs up a sandwhich at low hp. Increases seed 🌱 chances to spawn
🐿️ Gale 🐿️ Found at Olympus endshop. Grants 4/5/6% dodge chance. Blocks up to 3 hits per region dealing 300/350/400 damage in return to the enemy that hit you. Increases 🌸 and other flora chances to spawn

[daring sun]

whats a polecat lol

[orchid acorn]

its basically a weasel

[oak ivy]

what's a weasel?

[normal mountain]

a type of rat

[oak ivy]

tempted to say what's a rat?

[orchid acorn]

check a mirror

[normal mountain]

a larger version of a mouse

[oak ivy]

😭

[normal mountain]

They all alike cause they part of the same species

[daring sun]

sid from iceage is a polecat?

[cursive kayak]

no sid is a sloth

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-lick-mlem-cute-funny-gif-25264237

[daring sun]

that looks like a raccoon if I look fast

[normal mountain]

A polecat is a mustelid (a mammal in the weasel family) that is roughly the size of a ferret, which is its domesticated relative. The term most commonly refers to the European polecat (Mustela putorius), known for its dark brown coat, buff underfur, and a distinctive "bandit mask" marking on its face. Once hunted to near-extinction, populations have been recovering in parts of Europe.

[little frost]

polecats and weasels and such are all mustelids which is just carnivorous mammals that are that shaped

[normal mountain]

boom

[daring sun]

whats a mustelid lmao

never heard that word

[cursive kayak]

a mammal in the weasel family

[normal mountain]

it's just a scientific mumbo jumbo to tell things apart

all split into different classes/species etc

[little frost]

mustelidae is the family

it's latin which is why it's weird

[normal mountain]

yeh it's gets confusing fast

they use latin names for pretty much every species of animal

[orchid acorn]

https://i.redd.it/e9tebbvv8u3d1.jpeg

u

[normal mountain]

I don't know why, but whenever I hear polecat... my brain conjures up a cat dancing around a pole for some reason.

[oak ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-hornet-slapping-w-hornet-gif-18230401068834176368

[orchid acorn]

i didnt hear a denial

[normal mountain]

What the hell is THAT

[little frost]

just remember guys from ur middle school biology classes Dear King Phillip Came Over From Great Spain

[orchid acorn]

lilac

[normal mountain]

No, the evil tooth wearing a red dress

[little frost]

takes one to know one I would assume

[orchid acorn]

its true i am lilac

[brave urchin]

ONE MORE WEEK, GUYS!

[little frost]

so much self hatred

[brave urchin]

[orchid acorn]

quite literally less than 7 days officially woo

[brave urchin]

Oh what time EU will it come out?

[orchid acorn]

literally now give or take an hour

[oak ivy]

feel free to call me a rat but there is no greater insult than calling me Pronto 😭

[brave urchin]

I will take a day off next friday.

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/EtEwzbJ

[normal mountain]

I should be alot more excited for this... but i'm not. - mainly because i have 500 hours in this game already and i just want it to end now lol

[oak ivy]

don't you find it cringe that you're talking to yourself using different alts? 😔

[orchid acorn]

yes

but i own my cringe

[normal mountain]

You just have a good imagination

[oak ivy]

why do you have this username thing? is it to be at the top of the users list on the side? 😭

[normal mountain]

💁

[oak ivy]

why do people do this lmaooo 😭

[little frost]

good question tbh

[oak ivy]

it's lowkey cringe....

[orchid acorn]

isn't it just attention

[normal mountain]

probably

[oak ivy]

I guess that's why it's cringe 😔

[normal mountain]

i don't get it though

[orchid acorn]

better than that one scam guy i pointed out to the mods who was there for multiple weeks i guess

[normal mountain]

oh i get alot of scammers in my DM's though.

[oak ivy]

so why do that??

[normal mountain]

do what?

[oak ivy]

have this nickname

[normal mountain]

I like it

[orchid acorn]

lilac can you add ! and spaces to the front of your name so i can stalk you easier thx

[oak ivy]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[oak ivy]

I can add my home address to my nickname to make it even easier than that

[normal mountain]

why do you have the nickname lilac?

[oak ivy]

no I'm talking about the "! " part

[normal mountain]

ah

so i'm top

[raven perch]

PYRE IS 7 GIGABYTES???

[normal mountain]

I ain't the only one who does it bro.. there's like 20 other people with the same thing

[oak ivy]

yeah it's kinda cringe 🥀

[orchid acorn]

thx

[normal mountain]

and?

[orchid acorn]

other people doing stuff isn't a defense for you

[brave urchin]

Oh i am not excited for the gameplay. I wanna know how the story eeeends.

[oak ivy]

so well said damn !!!

[normal mountain]

Not defending my position. I do what I want.

[oak ivy]

makes you come across like you're starving for attention 💔

[orchid acorn]

can't wait for the story to end with hypnos waking up and zag coming back from his latest security patrol "wow what a dream" fade to black

[normal mountain]

idc how it makes me come across though lol. - i don't really care what people think of me.

[oak ivy]

if you didn't care about other people's opinions you wouldn't do this though 😔

[normal mountain]

That's your opinion. I said, I do what I want.

[normal mountain]

I just want to know what hypnos's part is in all of this

like wtf, why is he asleep? why doesn't dream vapours wake him?

Why didn't I get a keepsake when I gave him nector?

[orchid acorn]

i mean that lasto ne is pretty god damn obvious

[normal mountain]

idc

i want a keepsake lol

[orchid acorn]

mf is asleep and mel won't even steal from the shop when its unmanned

[normal mountain]

fair point

[orchid acorn]

you think shes gonna frisk him down like they do in UK?

[normal mountain]

depends who's doing the frisking

[orchid acorn]

literally mel

or mel asking someone else to do it and why would she

[normal mountain]

if mel wants to frisk me, then i wouldn't say no lol

[orchid acorn]

mel pouring nectar all over hypnos
"keepsake pls"

[normal mountain]

that would be hilarious

and then he wakes up

[orchid acorn]

fresh meme https://imgur.com/FHJsaww

[raven perch]

Imagine we don’t get a hypnos keepsake

Imagine Hypnos just never wakes up

Imagine the devastation I will wreak over the entire bay area

[oak ivy]

Pronto the Memelord 🙏

[raven perch]

That’s like the meanest thing you could say

[orchid acorn]

unless achievements were bait

[oak ivy]

wait really 😭

[orchid acorn]

we know he wakes up

[raven perch]

I STILL DONT HAVE THE PROPHECY MAN

[crude dragon]

Hypnos doesn't wake up until Hades himself shows up in the Crossroads

[orchid acorn]

wot how

did you not do the 2nd dream

[raven perch]

I THINKit’s bugged for me

[raven perch]

I did!

I’m gonna check again after this run

[crude dragon]

Then he shocks awake like in H1

[orchid acorn]

did you interact iwth hypnos again

[raven perch]

I interact with him relatively frequently

[orchid acorn]

honestly wouldn't be shocked if it broke

[raven perch]

I’ll check again in a moment but mann

[orchid acorn]

a lot of stuff broke in recent patches with side character story plots

dora was broken for like a month i think and some files are still bricked or they are just bad at pathing to get the right stuff

[idle crater]

i dont have the second dream either but thats more because i only get to speak with medea like one in every ten runs

[orchid acorn]

could also be cause you havent gifted her twice

[raven perch]

How often do you run surface

Imagine if I’m the only person who cannot wake Hypnos up

I will literally kill everyone in this room

[idle crater]

i have

[idle crater]

half the time

[oak ivy]

It's like Pizza being the last person to start playing Silksong haha

[orchid acorn]

sgg is cursing your save file to be bricked for hypnos

restart or never see the ending

[raven perch]

I will cheat and look at the files

[orchid acorn]

and see the dialogue? and miss the voice performance? for shame

[raven perch]

Sniff

Im scared

[orchid acorn]

better start a new save file and recreate your save now meow

you got 6 days 23~ hours

[raven perch]

I’m trying to reach 1000 nights on my first save

[orchid acorn]

yeah 1000 nights without hypnos

[raven perch]

I’ve suffered longer

[hybrid gulch]

"1.0 Patch Notes: Hypnos can finally be woken from his long slumber (except for player Meow, who will suffer for all eternity)"

[raven perch]

They would do that to me

[meager garden]

every copy of hades II is personalized

[twin apex]

there were 3 copies of the game sold at the start of EA that just hard lock you out of the hypnos storyline, and you don't know until the patch releases and there's also no way to get around this, even by buying another copy or switching to a different console

[granite mauve]

🪦

[west plank]

The biggest question that I have for 1.0 is can I pet the dog?

[orchid acorn]

you can pet the dog now

||just its hecuba||

[west plank]

Fine, I will rephrase, can I pet Cerberus

[solemn fractal]

no not yet

i think v1.0 yes

[daring sun]

Can I pet that dawg!!!

[solemn fractal]

it's prob going to be a story thing where after the family is rescued, cerberus begins to trust you more, thus leading to petting

[orchid acorn]

i mean it would be pretty stupid if we couldn't do it with everything around it during ea

[west plank]

There are also like 200 requests to bet the dog in #h2-feedback

[orchid acorn]

its basically the entire reasoning why im sure hades and hypnos will have keepsakes at 1.0, cause its more or less already set up in the game

[daring sun]

https://media.tenor.com/2mxdAOdqD6oAAAAM/can-i-pet-that-dog.gif

[west plank]

Yes, it's a good dog, be unafraid

[daring sun]

I mean Mel already pet nemesis

[paper marsh]

https://prnt.sc/HGcRPfixkzV2 which one is the best? im using medea

with zeus on attack and speical

[mossy tangle]

Zagreus with a beard.

I'm calling it now.

also WE'RE ONE WEEK AWAY

[fringe sparrow]

Zag in a leopard speedo and nothing else

[mossy tangle]

well he IS Dionysus according to some interpretations of mythology...

[fringe sparrow]

Orpheus sang so in H1

Well no he was his son in that song I think

[cursive kayak]

orphic myths 🔥🔥🔥

[mossy tangle]

yeah something like that

I might take up H1 again once I'm done with H2

but yeah, I'd love to see how Mel will interact with her brother

[normal mountain]

None of them. - Wide Grin and fetching array are the best hammers for the skull.. nothing else matters.

oh for medea... dunno, that aspect is weird

[orchid acorn]

its the best aspect in the game

by miles. not exactly weird

[orchid acorn]

prob already picked but im pretty sure its colossus for medea, not like you have possessed

[normal mountain]

I can't get used to it's playstyle.

[orchid acorn]

wait you didn't even mention POSSESSED?

the hammer so broken that they had to bandaid nerf it by making it have unique wording

[crude dragon]

Boosted Ignition

[mossy tangle]

I remember Hel being BUSTED on launch

melted rooms with scorch

[crude dragon]

Colossus is also good for survivability

[orchid acorn]

posiedon was the meta, but ok.

hestia was also just giga op at the time so that tracks too, but its secondary now

[normal mountain]

I'm a circe staff and knives player.. I barely touch any of the skull aspects. - but when I do use them, I always try and get wide grin and fetching array. - and I only use persphones aspect

[orchid acorn]

yes possessed is still the best

its a free omega attack animationless when you pick up your skull

literally disgusting

[mossy tangle]

ehh I don't really care for the meta, I just go with the flow on my runs

[orchid acorn]

straight up nuke

[crude dragon]

Fetching is just QoL, and not even all that necessary of a QoL after Warsong

[orchid acorn]

wait what is fetching i thought they removed the hamemr that succ'd skulls after it became basekit

[mossy tangle]

yeah I'm gonna need some practice before 1.0 comes out, my brain is too hooked on BotW and Silksong right now

[crude dragon]

Fetching is auto-return

[orchid acorn]

Your Shells fly back to you automatically and 100% faster.

.... i thought this got removed lmfao

[normal mountain]

nah

i used it on my last run

[orchid acorn]

nightmare are you aware that you can literally just press special and it auto collects the skulls

[crude dragon]

It's completely unnecessary these days

[orchid acorn]

not specialing into the skulls, literally just special period

[crude dragon]

Yeah, the pickup radius for the special is, like, half the screen

[orchid acorn]

OG skull loop kinda incentivized using special/ospecial to cross the map to collect the skulls

[crude dragon]

At minimum

[orchid acorn]

literally anywhere on screen more or less. Which radius wise mel is always in the center so i guess it is half screen

[crude dragon]

Side note, how are you playing Medea? @normal mountain

Ripping the pin on all 4 grenades or just 1-2 at a time?

[normal mountain]

I don't use it. Not used it since the warsong update when I decided to never use it again.

[crude dragon]

And prior to Warsong?

[orchid acorn]

wasn't warsong pre skull rework

i think the balance patch for warson like 2 weeks later was the skull rework

[urban topaz]

One week.

[normal mountain]

I couldn't tell you, I just never liked the playstyle.. I know it's OP and used for speed running but I never got on with it, I've probably used it maybe a handful of times.. it's the same with the bow and the shield in hades 1... I just never liked them

[orchid acorn]

more than speedrunning, its OP period

[fluid dock]

will you start a new save when 1.0 comes out?

[orchid acorn]

Has the world record for speedrunning and max fear

[crude dragon]

I want to say it's the only one with a 67 Fear clear

[orchid acorn]

if you could medea fresh file im pretty sure it would be on that leaderboard too

it is the best aspect period

[granite mauve]

it needs buffs!

[normal mountain]

Who's got that record? boated i guess?

[orchid acorn]

foolish.

[granite mauve]

#buffmedea

[normal mountain]

eh

why would they buff an already OP weapon? lol

Where's this 67 fear WR then?

[crude dragon]

Funy

[crude dragon]

https://youtu.be/LCimToTp0es?feature=shared

[normal mountain]

thanks

[orchid acorn]

the joke is that medea has only ever been buffed since launch, except for one MINOR lovetap

[idle crater]

its really weird to use, so for the mass of players not going for high fear, buffing it is the only way it'll actually get used

[orchid acorn]

it was already buffed when it was considered one of the better aspects in the game for olympic update

and that was a bit questionable

[idle crater]

at least, this is why i think it got buffed

[orchid acorn]

more of skull in general i think

back then basically any community poll would tell you two things, people at large HATED torch and skull

there were staunch defenders, i still remember people defending EA release torch yet it got giga buffed like 1 mont in

[raven perch]

I loooved torches

[orchid acorn]

more than a giga buff it was actually a borderline rework

more damage more stagger more movement(you couldn't move while attacking or something)

then skull had its whole clunky playstyle of an ammo weapon, but you can't reload it manually you need to physically pick up the skulls

that basekit special collection really helped, yet its still not on any tooltips

[mossy tangle]

out of all aspects Medea is the one I used the least

not sure why tho.

[raven perch]

Nope I still do not have the prophecy

[mossy tangle]

Supergiant just said "screw this meow guy"

[raven perch]

They hate me soooo much

[polar abyss]

Dyno’s assault was the warning shot

/s.

[tired herald]

Hi everyone, do you know what time version 1.0 will be released on Steam in France ?

[cursive kayak]

which are you missing?

[lost ravine]

I'm in this unfortunate place where low fear feels too easy but high fear is a massive clusterf***

I detest the way enemies are designed in this game

[merry whale]

yea some enemies r actually atrocious in high fear LOL

they tuned down a lot in p11 so hopin they tune some more in 1.0

[cursive kayak]

there’s not a confirmation of time, but people are guessing noon EST, which would be 6pm for u

[lost ravine]

Some enemies are atrocious, some fangs effects are too and the visual noise is so bad

I can't see what's going on

[cursive kayak]

them nerfing the olympus enemies was a good choice lol

[lost ravine]

and enemies punish you for getting too close to them when like half the weapons are melee what is this

[merry whale]

real, visual clarity i hope gets ironed out more

hopefully melee playstyle expands beyond medea,,

[tired herald]

thanks a lot

[lost ravine]

Even medea is riding the fact that it's so broken that it gets to kill enemies before they do anything

That's the only reason that aspect is worthwhile lol

[cursive kayak]

anything can be played melee if you aren’t a coward

[raven perch]

Hypnorse

[cursive kayak]

ah

[raven perch]

I did the second dream and interact with him and I still do not have it

[lost ravine]

I don't think you can do that prophecy yet right?

[cursive kayak]

aren’t there only 2 dreams so far?

[raven perch]

No, I don’t have it as in it’s not on my list

[lost ravine]

oh well that's weird

[cursive kayak]

huh. weird

[raven perch]

It’s bugged for me

[cursive kayak]

I hope it fixes itself

it’s not tied to like friendships of other characters or anything is it?

[raven perch]

Nope

[cursive kayak]

damn. im sure it will fix itself with at least 1.0

[buoyant matrix]

i was silking my song

[oak ivy]

omg okay that's good

[rare marten]

im so torn between starting a new file when 1.0 releases and just finishing the game on my current save that has everything done so far

[dusty tapir]

and miss out on the intended pacing?

[oak ivy]

I will keep going on my current save file

[craggy widget]

just do both :3

[oak ivy]

I don't care about any intended pacing, I want the endingsssss

[rocky agate]

Same shit

[lost ravine]

Seeing the story from the start would be cool but not the grind

[rocky agate]

Ugh

[idle crater]

im starting over

the grind really isnt that bad tbh

[rare marten]

yeah the grind is the only thing stopping me

[rocky agate]

Wait no like I am facing the same problem

[idle crater]

i've done it every major update

[raven perch]

That sounds awful

[idle crater]

nah its great

[shell widget]

🥀

[orchid acorn]

whatever the time 3 hours ago is, somewhere between then and now, historically for all updates

[lost ravine]

ik the grind isn't hades 1 bad or anything but miss me with that

[idle crater]

why are people skulling me there's no way im the only one doing this right

[orchid acorn]

skulling you doing it every update like a psychopath

[rare marten]

what is the intended pacing? starting from the beginning?

[shell widget]

You kinda are

[oak ivy]

I'll speedrun the endings, come here and spoil everything for all the fresh file people 😈 😈 😈

[lost ravine]

yeah uhh let me have less options

[idle crater]

😭

[lost ravine]

I love that

I do appreciate the way hades uses metaprogression to pace it's plot, it's very ingenious for a roguelike, but normally metaprogression is by far my least favorite part of this genre and I'll do anything to cheat around it

[crude dragon]

No, you definitely are

[lost ravine]

I don't mind levelling up the first time in these games but I don't see a reason to do it again

[craggy oriole]

Man, just 7 days left...

[idle crater]

why havent you guys been doing it

[rare marten]

I already have 200+ hours in the game, why would I grind a fresh file every update?

[raven perch]

Frankly I kinda think playing til the end on my maxed out save might be more narratively satisfying because imagine opening the game, beating chronos run 1-3, getting the incantations run 15, and having to listen to all the dialogue about the biomes post true ending

[orchid acorn]

because literally nothing has changed except for the most recent update for anything to warrant a fresh file?

[raven perch]

Yeah like there is literally no benefit

[oak ivy]

exactly !!!

[orchid acorn]

i mean there is the partial benefit of knowing you can have a true 100% save file that existing files can't

[oak ivy]

doing it fresh file is not any better because we're so good at the game now

[orchid acorn]

but its a completely irrelevant incantation you're missing

[oak ivy]

we will mess up the pacing anyways by knowing so much of the game already

[raven perch]

I tried a fresh file months ago and I beat chronos night 3

[orchid acorn]

average meow W

[oak ivy]

so might as well just continue your current save file

[lost ravine]

I guess there's the humor of seeing if you can beat a run after getting eris cursed in Oceanus

[rare marten]

is there any stuff retroactively added to the early game that I would miss if I just finished the game on my current file?

[lost ravine]

That's about it

[craggy oriole]

I'm honestly just going to gun it for the endings, I'm eager to find out how things resolve.

[orchid acorn]

technically yes

in a meaningful sense, no.

[lost ravine]

I'm pretty sure the only early game changes have been to crafting recipes

[orchid acorn]

assuming you started pre unseen update - in the current version of the game any save files that made to tartarus prior to this patch cannot get one specific incantation

[lost ravine]

oh god yeah fresh file means all that fishing and mining and digging and farming all over 💀

[rare marten]

idk, I think I might wanna take my time and reread all of the story from start to finish. and I could always just give up if it gets boring and finish my maxed out save.

[orchid acorn]

its literally just an incantation to fix the tartarus purging pool which is now broken for new files when it started fixed in older updates

[rare marten]

not like I need to delete my current save to start a new one

[lost ravine]

That sounds like something that'll get patched with 1.0

[orchid acorn]

theres nothing to patch

[lost ravine]

Oh I misread

[orchid acorn]

this is, quite literally, intended and in the code its specifically there with comments "for if the player has already used pool of purging" or something

cause otherwise it would break the tartarus pool of purging randomly which they could do ig

but you would've already gotten the one in the other 3 regions

[lost ravine]

frankly I feel done with hades 2 before 1.0 even comes out LOL

I'm looking forward to the story conclusion

[orchid acorn]

again completely fluff meaningless incantation that existing players already have the benefits of innately

but its a technical incantation you will never unlock

forever 99% save file

[raven perch]

Pronto No you’re gonna trigger everyone’s fomo

For something with zero utility

[oak ivy]

😭

[rare marten]

sometimes I feel like thats a problem with early access. by the time everything is done im already finished playing the game

[oak ivy]

this is so funny...

[orchid acorn]

:^)

[brave urchin]

That is what we all signed up for going into Alpha.

[lost ravine]

I'm especially getting burned out by finding low fear to be too easy, but high fear to be a slog

[orchid acorn]

gotta find that sweet spot

[lost ravine]

some of these enemies are not fun to fight with 40% more speed

[orchid acorn]

mine is like 43 i think

[rare marten]

I havent played since July

[orchid acorn]

see thats the neat part, 40% speed is the default speed since i never took it off

[lost ravine]

well the default speed is too high for enemies that punish you for being near them lol

[orchid acorn]

such as? i can't think of any enemies that feel cancer at 40% speed anymore.

like i despise hippos but its irregardless of frenzy

all the surface enemies got nuked from orbit

for the 1.0 balance pass a few months ago

[lost ravine]

idk I'm just tired of seeing rooms with like 20 spinners and a bunch of projectiles and armor perks and other garbage and knowing that if I step a toe in the wrong place I'm gonna take damage, while not being able to see what's going on

[orchid acorn]

[lost ravine]

The unrivalled underworld bosses, ironically aside from chronos just feel bad to fight

[rare marten]

if I start a new file, will some things happen in a different order? or do things happen in the order they were added to the game?

[orchid acorn]

Completely random based on your new playthrough, unless it has the story critical tag internally forcing it to the top

everything is randomly pulled if it has the same weight internally for the most part a lot of stuff does

but you may not have that dialogue unlocked cause you haven't pulled the required prereq in your save yet

such as meeting a certain character, or getting to a certain room

[lost ravine]

I think ares is an unlock for reaching typhon in a similar way to hera? that's the only thing I can think wouldn't be obvious to someone who's been playing since day 1 of the beta

[orchid acorn]

correct, ares requires you to meet typhon as his req

[rare marten]

yknow I've always wondered but never knew, how does the story work in Hades? will I hear every bit of dialogue a character has even if I progress faster than im supposed to?

[orchid acorn]

characters can only play dialogue once per run

you CAN get dialogue out of order because of this yes

[lost ravine]

I think so, the game tries to react to what you've done but this can lead to getting dialogue in strange orders if you're good enough at the game

[orchid acorn]

but for like 99% of things, its all eventually going to play even if it makes zero sense to your current context

[rare marten]

as much as I love both games, the ambiguous story/dialogue triggers and completion confuses me a bit

[orchid acorn]

the 1% is stuff like extremely conditional stuff that you can't repeat or get a second shot at

like a fresh file clear winning night 1

obviously you either win, or you don't

[rare marten]

yeah I remember a ton of weird stuff Hypnos would say in the first game based on what enemy killed you. I had like 250 hours in the game and still got a new line because somehow I hadn't been killed by that enemy before

[orchid acorn]

those are apart of the 99%, cause you are never locked out of getting them

just you need to do something hyperspecific yet its still obtainable.

not obtainable dialogue is stuff like mentioned above, fresh file meeting and beating chronos night 1

you get one shot and if not, never can see that dialogue.

[rare marten]

true, I wish there was a way to know if theres still new dialogue left with a character. I hate missing content

[orchid acorn]

technically there is but it involves you looking in your save file to see if flags are set for dialogue, since they don't repeat

[rare marten]

unless its the super hard conditional stuff you're talking about

[orchid acorn]

you either have the flag for artemispegging01 or its not flagged

[granite mauve]

hypnos saying you'll beat the hydra eventually after your 300th run

[hybrid gulch]

👀 definitely missing this flag

Seems like it would be some memorable dialogue

[rustic mesa]

Announcement incoming

[lyric matrix]

https://x.com/SupergiantGames/status/1968765145892421869

Supergiant Games (@SupergiantGames)

HADES II v1.0 arrives in less than one week!!🌒

It will be available worldwide at 9am PDT on Thursday, September 25, or your local time, on Nintendo Switch 2, Nintendo Switch, Steam, and the Epic Games Store.

X · Sep 18, 2025, 7:52 PM

I beat em

I am become Greg, announcer of things

[near ridge]

I alr have ea on steam but ughh cant wait for the physical release on november 😭 theres no preorder to this is there

[oak ivy]

@orchid acorn we were right !!! ✌️

[little frost]

a shrimple calculus

[hybrid gulch]

9am? Huh, alright then!

[cursive kayak]

YAY

noon sounded about right, glad it’s confirmed!

[cerulean lake]

Midnight 💔

[fathom lake]

https://tenor.com/view/its-shrimple-shrimp-funny-haha-meme-gif-9312733212572166512

[hollow lily]

so i was messing around with memory codes and guess what i found https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1252944071459209280/1418327563742347425/image.png?ex=68cdb7fa&is=68cc667a&hm=cb6556321085f181ad03a6bb12a30b893aa70dab4bbaf9688f570eebbfcded5f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1022&height=575

good job me. i just ruined a plot point for myself

[granite mauve]

nice photoshop bud

[broken glen]

Can you believe it guys? Hades 2, just a week away!

https://tenor.com/view/can-you-believe-guys-christmas-one-week-until-christmas-im-so-thriled-about-this-information-christmas-christmas-meme-gif-24202287

Oh wow, it came so fast

[granite mauve]

is this accurate <t:1758816000:R>

[cursive kayak]

hades 2 tomomorrow (x7)

[broken glen]

Hades 2 in a week!

[granite mauve]

<t:1758816000:f>

[cursive kayak]

😭

[hollow lily]

this is definitley coming next week dude. fck how did i fck up this bad 🙁

[oak ivy]

okay I'm sorry 💔

😭

[cursive kayak]

no that’s in early access

[oak ivy]

what are you even talking about?

[polar abyss]

Yeah, that’s already happened

[cursive kayak]

as someone who has completed everything that you can currently do. I have done that lol

[polar abyss]

I just assumed you haven’t seen the EA moment

[oak ivy]

same yeah

[hollow lily]

back to dumpster diving i go

[summer hedge]

Idk if I’ll get thru BL4 before next Thursday 🙁

[cursive kayak]

i was gonna start hollow knight but honestly I don’t think I’ll finish it in time for hades 2 and hades 2 takes priority

also im sick so its already not gonna happen since i need to rest

[broken glen]

Rest well! I was super sick last week and it was awful

Being sick sucks

[cursive kayak]

thanks ❤️ seems to be going around rn

[broken glen]

I was just mindlessly playing tiny bookshop the whole time (and throwing great chaos above/below)

Got me through it

[zenith mist]

how big will changes post 1.0 be if the original hades is any basis? i didnt pay attention when i played it i just was like yaaaay

[crude dragon]

Well, the post-launch patches for Hades 1 were just bug fixes and pom scaling tweaks

[zenith mist]

thats what i figured. nothing major

[broken glen]

Yeah probably just balance to give the game a healthy future

[zenith mist]

so excited....

[broken glen]

…was the Medea cast damage bug ever fixed?

I don’t think it was

[zenith mist]

i feel silly cuz i bought it on steam in a haze of excitement and it barely ran on my computer. so now ill have to buy a new edition for switch. but anything for hades

[broken glen]

I bought it on my Mac only to realize my Mac had the wrong type of chip 💀 (silicon vs intel)

Luckily I’ve got a PC now so I can play it!

[zenith mist]

i did eventually buy a pc so i could play it on that but i just love using it on switch. im willing to shell out the extra money for my impatience lol

[broken glen]

I hate waiting for games to go on sale…

Like if it’s a $60 game sure but if it’s a $20 indie game who cares

I want to support the devs with money

[crude dragon]

Nope, still a thing

[broken glen]

Hopefully they’ll take care of that

[crude dragon]

Well, the Zeus cast bug is what made 67 Fear possible

So

[orchid acorn]

common pronto W

[oak ivy]

I WAS SAYING THIS TOO

[orchid acorn]

you're my alt, your Ws automatically are mine

[oak ivy]

[orchid acorn]

your Ls are your own though, thats what alts are for

so they don't trace back to me

[oak ivy]

.......

[orchid acorn]

should've read the contract better

[oak ivy]

smh stealing other people's credit... typical male behaviour

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/GmYb0gI

This appearing and disappearing like 5 times was so funny

i could imagine the smile write delete cycle

[oak ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-non-sense-cat-nonsense-meme-anime-gif-25776994

[young kelp]

what

[oak ivy]

what

[orchid acorn]

yapyapyap

[oak ivy]

yapyapyap!!

[acoustic ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-yapping-yap-cat-yapidi-yap-yap-yap-yap-gif-11479956768894629287

i think this one fits much better

[orchid acorn]

lilac is a s tier yapper so if anything its not enough

sounds like nonsense most of the time too so i like the elf better

[oak ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/hibike-anime-anime-yapping-yap-shut-up-gif-14097572782261890092

[oak ivy]

no I delete the nonsense parts

[acoustic ruin]

another new title for lilac 😔

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-fascinating-interesting-fake-sure-gif-4110253572494542171

[oak ivy]

I only leave out the good stuff

[oak ivy]

Be careful or I'm gonna give you the Zag stare

[orchid acorn]

this one isn't new

[oak ivy]

[acoustic ruin]

well its new for me

[orchid acorn]

[oak ivy]

[orchid acorn]

i don't want to get mod actioned so ill let you win this one

[acoustic ruin]

lilac the yapping, malnourished, 10min slaying god 😔

[sleek oar]

[oak ivy]

hehe I win

[sleek oar]

Mel grin to counteract zag stare

[orchid acorn]

i cast domestic violence

[sleek oar]

What

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/too-much-alarm-sound-the-gif-24675087

[oak ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-hornet-slapping-w-hornet-gif-18230401068834176368

this gif counters ANYTHING ^

[orchid acorn]

this isn't fair lilac has silksong gifs now

[acoustic ruin]

lilac wins that one tho

[oak ivy]

hahahahahhaa

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/you-ded-you-dieded-died-dieded-hornet-died-gif-8163515769741623680

[oak ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-lace-lace-silksong-boss-lace-git-gud-git-gud-gif-7957022372270461499

[crude dragon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/570506285615808512/1163137707661348985/hello.gif

[orchid acorn]

wtf is this silksong gif

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hornet-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-pharloom-gif-11339581464096100828

and why is it one of the top ones

[oak ivy]

lmaooo

😭

[hollow lily]

ERIS YOU BTCH

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1252944071459209280/1418337307412533279/image.png?ex=68cdc10d&is=68cc6f8d&hm=35bd291b8f6447863683b9d4adf10be99ad136c964f005d6cad0bd8664891f39&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1022&height=575

he first 2 phases i could manage just fine on my first try this is just too much dawg

[mossy tangle]

Oh the beam tracking on launch was nightmarish

[quaint pumice]

Horent.. es un Diddy blud?? 😢

Ts gif problematic....

[tribal sluice]

Hey do we know if 1.0 is gona have hell mode or hell mode equivelant?

[orchid acorn]

we have no idea

hell mode was added way before EA ended in hades 1 so if an equivalent WAS going to get added i assume it would've been already

[indigo cypress]

Do we even want hell mode tho

[buoyant matrix]

no

it was very inconvenient for high heat

[indigo cypress]

A no hitstun protection vow just amplifies the bs of this game 😭

[buoyant matrix]

you had to use a modpack to switch it on and off

[buoyant matrix]

it also forced hl1 cp1 js1 lc1
the equivalent would be forced pain1 scars1 hordes1 grit1

[indigo cypress]

Ew

If they were gonna do hell mode only thing I would be okay with is making the testaments higher fear and requiring Rivals victory to reach true ending

Since that is identical run-wise and only makes progression harder

[daring sun]

when you pick the random hp boon from dijonisos is your hp supposed to be "???" rest of the run?

[meager garden]

yeah, you can't tell

[daring sun]

that sucks

[meager garden]

"but how much you have becomes a mystery."

[devout abyss]

dijonisos

[meager garden]

just don't worry about it

and lock tf in

[daring sun]

oh nah this run I'm trying out the hungover

[plain remnant]

So excited for full release, I got 250 hours in this game already and have played it since day one beta. Devs deserve success.

[molten obsidian]

Easy this game will lead Metacritic and op this year. I can’t see how they’d give it less than a 9.

[granite mauve]

too much water

8/10

[wise ledge]

Too much gay, 7/10

[royal minnow]

Is the game coming to ps5?

[daring sun]

nothing planned as of now

#hades2-faq message

[twin apex]

not enough gay

[molten obsidian]

2026 ☝️

[crude dragon]

Eventually

There's an exclusivity deal with Nintendo that needs to run its course first

[stoic delta]

Hades 1 was nintendo exclusive for around 10 months iirc

[meager garden]

12

[sharp plank]

Is there any reliable weapons/aspects tier list? The only one I can find is months/a year old

[meager garden]

Haelian and Boated both made one for this patch, I think

anything from 1 month ago is current

[sharp plank]

Got Haelians, and it is indeed quite new

Thanks!

Another question, regarding gameplay: I have watched just a few videos now, and noticed that I seem to just not use Ω-Attacks/Specials (and definitely not Casts) during my runs. I still got to 16 Fear with the axe, and 10 fear with the torches quite comfortably, are those really needed or is it just a different playstyle?

[normal mountain]

Whats everyones go to for the umbral flames keepsake... specifically the aspect of mel?????

[devout abyss]

hesstia

[meager garden]

depends on the aspect and god setup, but yeah, a lot of the time you can ignore omegas

[devout abyss]

i mean you should definitely be using cast on every weapon

[sharp plank]

Yeah casts, but not Ω-Casts

[daring sun]

to get a specific god I use zeus

[devout abyss]

oh omega cast is a pretty bad move on most weapons

[daring sun]

but then I use others, when I get better at dodging im gonna be using the sash in my runs

[sharp plank]

I mean I have been in situations where I used Ω-Special or Ω-Attack, but Ω-Cast just feels like such a waste of mana and time every time

[normal mountain]

Except when you use the circe aspect. 🔥

[devout abyss]

1/24

[crude dragon]

Hera for Fine Line or Born Gain, whichever comes first and has good rarity

[normal mountain]

Good shout

[daring sun]

oh spell

I was saying keepsake 😛

[devout abyss]

spell?

[normal mountain]

I can switch to the fan in the next region

[daring sun]

boon my bad

[hearty fog]

Last week was the release date, this week is the release time. I wonder what's next week.

[daring sun]

born gain makes everything so muych easier

[crude dragon]

That's what I meant as well, you take the keepsake because those two Boons are something you want to get into a standard torch build

[normal mountain]

it's such a broken boon lol

[crude dragon]

It's called Broken Gain for good reason

[devout abyss]

the release

[sharp plank]

Does the born gain prime stack? Like if you run oom twice in an encounter, do you prime twice?

[neon isle]

yup

[crude dragon]

Yes

[normal mountain]

that's why it broken 😛

[sharp plank]

Yeah well, but then again - if you run out in the next encounter, you will just stack again, right?

[crude dragon]

It resets per encounter

[neon isle]

it resets per room, if thats what you mean

[crude dragon]

Or per room

[normal mountain]

unlimited magik

[neon isle]

not per encounter

[daring sun]

fry is nice for clearing fast but kinda not good for bosses

[crude dragon]

Unless you have massive MP spend, Born Gain with around 200-ish MP makes it nearly impossible to run out except on, like, Rivals Typhon

[devout abyss]

@oak ivy

[daring sun]

if you get tons of lightning and born gain with umbral, it gets so easy

they all multiply each other right?

[crude dragon]

And if you do have massive MP spend, you're usually looking to stack up to 300-400 max MP

[oak ivy]

Then sacrifice Born gain with the duo to get more damage!!!

[daring sun]

whats the duo, I forget

[crude dragon]

Broke: Blowing up Born Gain for Zeus boons

Woke: Blowing up Zeus boons for Born Gain and Fine Line

[oak ivy]

Queens/King's ransom, depending on what you're sacrificing

[daring sun]

I really like the omega attack lightning activation boon

[crude dragon]

Sacrifice Hera or Zeus's boons to buff the other spouse's boons by 4 levels per sacrificed boon

[daring sun]

oh yeah the lightning everytime you use mana is nice too 😛

[crude dragon]

And you can sell it to do it again

[oak ivy]

It's considered one of the worst boons in the game 💔

[daring sun]

oh what ? why

[devout abyss]

it does so little damage

[daring sun]

I use mana alot

yeah maybe you are right

[sharp cosmos]

The only consistent time I pick it is on Meli's twin flames, as you mana spend every second or so

[oak ivy]

ry is always right in my experience

[crude dragon]

Because the stuff that used to synergize with it all got removed

[sharp plank]

Speaking about bad things: Is it just my feeling, or is Ares just not worth it?

[oak ivy]

it's kinda mixed after they changed how the attacks work there...

[crude dragon]

Torch Omegas aren't as rapid anymore, Zeus and Heph sprints were changed, etc

[sharp cosmos]

Yeah, Ares is kind of in a bad place

[daring sun]

whats better volcanic strike or lightning ? volcanic sounds like its alot of damage but it also has quite the cooldown

[crude dragon]

Ares kept catching nerfs to a kit that was never all that stellar to begin with, so yeah

[sharp plank]

Okay good, I was wondering if I just did not understand how his boons should work or if they really do not do too much at this moment

[sharp cosmos]

I mean, it's not a high prio, but it's a nice lil addition

[crude dragon]

Never, under any circumstances, take a Heph boon that is not at least Epic

[daring sun]

oh

[sharp cosmos]

The plasma ain't good without the legendary, the mana on plasma is weak and absolutely need other plasma boons just to be viable, and the blades are... meh, even more so without duos like apollo's

[crude dragon]

Especially if it's a blast like his Attack and special

[sharp plank]

What? I love her debuff on cast, never mind what rarity

[crude dragon]

Hephaestus

[sharp plank]

Ohh

[sharp cosmos]

Hephaestus, so hammer forge guy

[sharp plank]

I misread that, and read Hera

[crude dragon]

Reason being is that each rarity takes 2 seconds off the recharge time (which is 2 poms' worth), and you want that recharge as fast as possible

It caps out at 2 seconds, BTW

[daring sun]

I read somewhere you could change to phial and use fountain right after but for me it doesnt seem to work :S

[hasty ocean]

Heph blasts with the lowest cooldown + Chain Reaction is cracked, but it takes a lot of luck to get there and you could be putting that effort into something better

[daring sun]

am I just not doing it right or too tired or something or does it actually not work?

[oak ivy]

yes you can do that!
did you actually have a common boon at that time though?

[daring sun]

ohhh

[sharp cosmos]

Isn't affected by anything, including Heph x Poseidon Duo ?

[oak ivy]

it only changes common boons yeah

[daring sun]

i got commons now, gonna check

oooh yeah it worked

[oak ivy]

nice!

[daring sun]

is born gain good to have higher rarity?

[oak ivy]

yeah sure

[crude dragon]

It shaves off 2 mana per rarity

[daring sun]

feels like better to have others higher rarity

[oak ivy]

it means you don't need to pick up any magick potions

[crude dragon]

It's subtle, but it adds up with repeated refills

[sharp cosmos]

The more you spam omoves, the rarer you need it

[crude dragon]

It's affected by Heph/Pos duo and goes down to 1.35 seconds, yes

[sharp cosmos]

aight, thanks for the info :)

[daring sun]

you cant find the 3 fates now right?

[sharp cosmos]

nope

[crude dragon]

Correct

[sharp cosmos]

nor ||wake hypnos||

[crude dragon]

That's a 1.0 thing

[daring sun]

what does the latest potion do ?

I been in the dreams

[sharp cosmos]

potion ?

[daring sun]

but now I got a new one I can make in the couldron

[sharp cosmos]

Wdym potion ?

[daring sun]

uh whats it called incantation

[sharp cosmos]

Do you know its name ?

Or maybe its icon, or reagents ?

[daring sun]

hm

im on a run now

but it was after going into his dreams

[sharp cosmos]

Don't sweat it, just ping me again when finished, and I'll be able to answer you w/ more info :)

[oak ivy]

you just go into his dreams again

[daring sun]

oh

[oak ivy]

for the second time yeah

[sharp cosmos]

Haven't done that yet

[oak ivy]

👀

[sharp cosmos]

(Also, sorry to the mods and bot, I'm usually swearing a lot, which I shouldn't but habits die hard)

[oak ivy]

It's okay, that's why the bot is here

[haughty hill]

do not apologise to the hall monitor bot it is very silly

[sharp cosmos]

aight, you know what, time to log on the game, and just wing the 24f surface run

because why not

[oak ivy]

everyone treats Dyno in here like a god wdym??

🤭

there was a mass panic when Dyno died for a week or so

[haughty hill]

number of times I've had to stare at a post and go 'the heck was the problem with that' and I'd dropped a letter somewhere....

[sharp cosmos]

time to go all chronos on the bot then ? >:D

[long totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280383240280215614/1418376036097462293/2025092.JPG?ex=68cde51f&is=68cc939f&hm=13a1f84951b264e78cd6cb2b7c4ed0b2f42c8a04057119b4aeda495cdc287bd0&

GUYS I KNOW WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FATES' KIDNAPPING!!!

[sharp plank]

What, there are still incantations? I cleared both chronos and typhon >5 times, when do you get the chance to get an incantation to go into a dream? 😅

[oak ivy]

Idk at some point later... have you gifted Nectar to Hypnos?

[sharp plank]

Yeah I did

[oak ivy]

in that case I don't know what the trigger is...

[raven perch]

Medea convo

Are you talking dream 1 or dream 2

[oak ivy]

dream 1 I assume

this person implies they havent been in a dream period

[sharp plank]

Yeah I did not get any dream stuff at all

[raven perch]

Okay yeah you need to gift Hypnos at least twice i believe

[sharp plank]

Someone on reddit suggested you need to gift two nectar to hypnos

[oak ivy]

pour it on his head!!!

make his hair all frizzy

[sharp plank]

Yeah, just read that. Holy moly, I would have never got to that point on my own. You did not react to one? Okay, you do not get a second one

[sharp cosmos]

That'd be very consistent with the prophecies, as all of them tied to a character needs 2 nectars to appear

[raven perch]

What? I feed Hypnos any chance I get I miss him more than god

[daring sun]

is the 3 headed doge in the underworld child to the huge doge in olympus?

[raven perch]

Yes

[daring sun]

ooh

[raven perch]

Typhon is not a dog but yes

[daring sun]

oh

[oak ivy]

huge doge 😭

[oak ivy]

he got that doge in him !!!!

[sharp cosmos]

Oh, Typhon has been deemed a dog, no wonder I was confusef

[raven perch]

He’s kinda doglike

[daring sun]

promethius memory thing so anoying

[daring sun]

whats the thing in summit? an ostrich?

[meager garden]

he's a monster

[bronze oak]

But like, which one

[oak ivy]

the FATHER OF ALL MONSTERS

[daring sun]

not him

[sharp cosmos]

I'd say some kind of abomination beyond human grasp, but let's go with Ostrich

[daring sun]

the first one

the birdy

[sharp cosmos]

Eris ?

[meager garden]

the... mega dracon?

[oak ivy]

bird??

[meager garden]

the white harpies?

[oak ivy]

summit? not Olympus?

[bronze oak]

I think they're thinking of the tail

It kinda looks like a beak at the end

[meager garden]

oh no way

[oak ivy]

the Tail of Typhon????

it's all Typhon!!! @daring sun

it's his parts that you fight

[meager garden]

never in a million years would I have made that connection

[sharp cosmos]

The confusion in this chat is propagating

[bronze oak]

And then there's the eyes by the tip of the tail too

[meager garden]

how's that a dog though

[daring sun]

hmm but the other boss is a rhino though?

[meager garden]

he's a kid of the dude

typhon is a daddy

[sharp cosmos]

Greek mythology shenanigans

[bronze oak]

The deep gravely voice 🙏 😻

[sharp cosmos]

I mean, Zeus was able to conceive a child while being some rain.

[meager garden]

ok but zeus is like, prime freak

[bronze oak]

If only he didnt look so goofy in h2

[meager garden]

I think zeus looks fine

poseidon is the one that looks weird imo

[daring sun]

its a rhino/monster/humanoid? https://i.gyazo.com/f0829216d71fa162b250a4212dd55bdf.png

[bronze oak]

What no poseidon got so hot

[sharp cosmos]

Oh, that's a spawn

Regular monster and all

[meager garden]

erm actually it's a horror

[daring sun]

ok this is the normal one but theres a similliar thats a boss

[meager garden]

Spawn of Typhon is the miniboss
given that healthbar, it must not be the miniboss, so it is the regular enemy called a Horror