h2-discussion

[sharp nymph]

ty ty 😄

[short raft]

congrats

[cursive kayak]

gg!!!

[indigo cypress]

What was the build that did it

[sharp nymph]

i did it with the hex cape

i SUCK at making builds tho tbh

i dont really get how to get good synergyes to much

i luck into it sometiems

[slim pike]

Understand the underlying systems and builds become more apparent

[sharp nymph]

and the second one was skill with zues

yeah there is a LOT to understand really

but it also is just gonna be playing i guess to learn

ive been watching some vids and stuff to see how people decide what to do , but i dont wanna just copy X op build, cos its not reaaaly goona teach me much

[slim pike]

Understand how power, function speed and additive percentage multipliers work

Then what the stats of your own functions are

I just had a build that gave me +40 attack power. With the axe that would be decent, but I had it with the blades and it wrecked face

[indigo cypress]

Selene first clear? Huh didn't think it was that beginner-friendly

[merry whale]

yea tbh as someone who never looked into guides at all, best thing u can do is just lucking into "oh wait this build works really well i should keep note of this" or "wow this boon sucks ass i'm never taking this again"

[merry whale]

selene does stupid damage surprisingly

annoying to actually charge up usually and it'd be nice if it was usable on skelly for practice,,

[somber juniper]

Do we know when on the 25th the full game drops? I wanna know if I need to stay up late on the 24th.

[crude dragon]

Lance of Ares go violence and bloodshed

[orchid acorn]

officially we have no idea

very likely its the same as literally every other update which is gonna be like 12-1pm EST

[sharp nymph]

i just got him again with the selene with aphro and Here and demi - i can build the first part of a "build" but my issues are trying to tie the supports/duos/legendaries in - so far is 90% luck based. i need to spend a lot of tiem reading the journal now its all unlocked

[lucid bronze]

will be ready gmt for when im back from work

perfect timing

[lyric matrix]

Depends on the switch release. Aren't they usually around midnight?
Do they delay those?

[raven perch]

I’m mildly disappointed they aren’t releasing on a Wednesday actually

[oak ivy]

why?

isn't it better to have it be closer to the weekend?

[raven perch]

Because it always used to be on a Wednesday 🥺

Whatever happened to narrative symmetry

[merry whale]

chronos moment

[oak ivy]

It's gotta be narratively significant, Chronos is messing with the timeline!! it means the incantations WONT work!!!
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSySDArKAOS56QOXF90BPhI1neLujwFfniXMQ&s

[torpid grove]

Cant wait for the battlepass

[granite mauve]

the charon pass

only 8.99 usd

[little mason]

6.99 subscription to reduce charons shop prices by 30% permently

24 dollars to make 1 item free in charons shop once per night

[meager garden]

there should be an option to let me pay to refill on health during a run

[raven perch]

Yeah it’s called buying Fresh Sustenance

[granite mauve]

watch an ad for 50 gold

[meager garden]

where are the ads in hades 2?

all we got are adds

[oak ivy]

gold? usd?

no we are paying in rosaries now!

80 rosaries minimum

[lavish sequoia]

is this new? "Testament marked. Fear exceeds requirement, not that you care."

[lyric matrix]

Except for when it was Tuesday

[devout abyss]

it happens when you exceed the fear by 10 points, dunno if it's new

[haughty hill]

nah that's been around since at least warsong

[candid nimbus]

I recently started the game and I got Burning Desire... Is it just me or is it pretty good? The DPS can go fast

Not sure if I'm missing something 😅

[crude dragon]

All 3 Scorch duos are pretty good

[sinful rose]

Damn i just saw 1.0 is releasing the 25th

Best september in years

[crude dragon]

Burning Desire's the least good of the 3 because it's not as much of a power spike on its own, but it's still solid

[sinful rose]

Silksong, JJk S3 trailer, Hades 2 1.0 the 25th, MC Live the 27th we eating so good

[cursive kayak]

the end of time is so damn good

louis cole never disappoints

[short frigate]

Yeah this is DEFINITELY my game of the year.

https://youtu.be/U8lJRcUeEMs

The 25th can't come fast enough.

[cursive kayak]

absolutely my game of the year as well and im a hardcore utdr fan

so many good games this year

[merry whale]

sooo many bangers this year it's unbelievable

[limber summit]

chat do i replay the game on release

[merry whale]

if u value the pure 1.0 experience ye

i value keeping my save

[atomic river]

yo ive beaten typhon multiple times now my record on 20 fear and i still havent unlocked the animal familiars??? i only have the frog and the cat someone help

[limber summit]

the balace has changed so so much since i last played

wait no which update was typhon

[merry whale]

i think warsong

[limber summit]

has another update come out since then

[merry whale]

ye, unseen

[limber summit]

ah i havent played that one

[hollow stratus]

is prometheus the most difficult boss in the game for anyone else

takes like 2 death defiances sometimes 🙁

[idle crater]

you need to visit the erebus fountain room

[bright fern]

@atomic river raki (bird) is in erebus fountain, hecuba (dog) is in mourning fields NPC encounter, gale (polecat) is right outside prom. iirc you can just pet raki multiple times to get him but for the other two you have to give them treats

[limber summit]

lowkey i use the one that buffs me but i have no death defiance

[idle crater]

it used to be, until you learn his moveset

[atomic river]

is that the first level

[idle crater]

first region in the underworld

[atomic river]

idk how like ive not seen that place is it just luck i swear ive nevber been in that fountain

[idle crater]

it took me forever to get it too because i was never on low enough health in erebus for the fountain to spawn

[atomic river]

oh thats how it works

so should i just like killmyself until 1 hp or something

[hollow stratus]

oh fountains spawn based on health? thought they were just pure random room generation rng

[idle crater]

i mean, you never get fountains at full health

[merry whale]

nah fountains can drop at max hp

[idle crater]

really?

[bright fern]

nah you def can get fountains at full health

[idle crater]

i have never had that happen to me

wait, then why the heck did it take so long

[bright fern]

iirc mel has voice lines for it too

[merry whale]

not getting hit is surprisingly hard

[idle crater]

nah i ran armor spam for all my low fear, so i was always at full health

[hollow stratus]

pure randomness to my understanding so you really can't control how fountain rooms spawn don't think, just gotta be lucky for themn

[atomic river]

bro WHAT i beat chronos like 7 times in the past 3 days and a fountain never spawned on any of those how rare is it

[merry whale]

dw my recent surface clear had zero npc room besides one heracles

[hollow stratus]

well you've done the incantation for them to exist right?

[merry whale]

tartarus has no fountains, oceanus fountain is extremely rare, i don't think fields even has a fountain

[idle crater]

tartarus has a fountain

[atomic river]

no thats my problem diont you have to get the bird first for it to happen, thats what it says on the wiki

[merry whale]

there's no way tartarus has a fountain

is it a side room thing

[idle crater]

yea

you can only get it on a reward room

[merry whale]

ig that makes sense

[bright fern]

it def does, it’s the fountain room from the old game but dusty, it seems to be pretty rare

[merry whale]

i wish tartarus reward rooms were meta in high fear

[atomic river]

also how do i feed the frog treats i go to him in the little weapon area i got like 4 of them n i cant

[hollow stratus]

I don't think so but I'm not 100% how accurate it is on WIki, I thought that as long as you've unlocked the incantation for fountain rooms, it's possible for them to spawn

[merry whale]

u need all the pets first

otherwise frinos starves

[atomic river]

omds bro

[hollow stratus]

incantation also iirc? I don't have dog pet yet still can upgrade the animals

[atomic river]

i js want the bear lookin thing bru

i just checked my cauldon and the only pet incantation i have is the faith of familiar spirits, am i missing something or am ijust unlucky with fountains

[hollow stratus]

nvm i forget spawn of typhon exists

how does one typically avoid his entire room smash

[idle crater]

either iframe it or go in between the marked pink areas

[hollow stratus]

always feels difficult to read since you have so little time to react

speaking of rare instances, how rare is artemis singing in crossroads?

51 nights on this save, only 2 have had artemis sing

[worldly sky]

Oh boy...

I might have to get Hades 2 at a later date

[cursive kayak]

no idea but i know it was added in warsong

I do wonder how rare it is

[worldly sky]

Wait why does only the Switch 2 version get a physical release 💀

[mystic cypress]

I think it'll have the same trigger as (H1 spoiler)||Orpheus' Good Riddance|| once you beat the underworld run Artemis will appear and after that she's random

[lyric matrix]

Because it's console exclusive to Nintendo

For now, anyways

[worldly sky]

But why not Switch 1?

[lyric matrix]

If you're asking about Switch 1, they're the same

[worldly sky]

Switch 1 is also getting the game

[lyric matrix]

Switch 2 is just the box facing art. The Switch card is the same for both systems

[worldly sky]

So you can play the Switch 2 version of the game on the Switch 1 but no using the upgrade pack right?

[lyric matrix]

That's my understanding.

[worldly sky]

I see that certain other games like Pokemon Legends ZA and MP Beyond contain includes the Nintendo Switch game plus the Nintendo Switch 2 upgrade pack

[buoyant matrix]

8 days

[worldly sky]

So I assume that the cartridge in that box works on the Switch 1 as well but you can't use the upgrade pack

[lyric matrix]

https://x.com/SupergiantGames/status/1967277514155577438

Supergiant Games (@SupergiantGames)

@RanciOgrO @PAABLOO64 Yes! The physical edition of Hades II is compatible with both the Nintendo Switch 2 and original Nintendo Switch, with both versions of the game on a standard game card. Also includes a full-color Character Compendium booklet, soundtrack download code, and reversible cover.

X · Sep 14, 2025, 5:21 PM

I think it just runs the game at 720p/60fps on Switch 1

[meager garden]

yeah, on both handheld and docked

[worldly sky]

In handheld mode right?

[lyric matrix]

Both

[worldly sky]

Weird considering the first game ran at 1080p in docked mode

[lyric matrix]

Hades II takes advantage of the new Nintendo Switch 2 hardware, offering up blazing fast 120 frames-per-second performance at 1080p while playing in TV Mode. In Handheld Mode, the game runs at 60 frames-per-second at 1080p, while the Nintendo Switch version runs at 60 frames-per-second at 720p in both modes. Players who purchase the Nintendo Switch version may download a free upgrade to the Nintendo Switch 2 version if they have both consoles.

[buoyant matrix]

i wonder what percentage of the game's sales will be on switch

[meager garden]

maybe because switch hades performance was a bit shaky

[lyric matrix]

I think they want it at 720p so it stays at 60fps

[worldly sky]

I played it in docked mode before and it didn't have any issues

[worldly sky]

It stayed at 60 FPS for me in docked mode when I played the first game

[cursive kayak]

probably quite a bit

esp since it’s been in nintendo directs

[lyric matrix]

Maybe they ran into issues with this game and felt this was the best way to handle it?

[buoyant matrix]

yeah hades 2 has way more stuff happening on screen

[worldly sky]

First game sold well on Switch.

I go to the Eshop and check best sellers. Hades popped up there quite a bit

[lyric matrix]

I'm sure it'll sell really well considering how many people have a Switch if not a Switch 2

[worldly sky]

Welp that is a downgrade from the first game

[buoyant matrix]

the game itself is a big upgrade so it's fine 🤑

[worldly sky]

could try at least 800 or 900p docked

[meager garden]

it's kinda funny that Galaxy 1+2 is selling better than Prime 4 on amazon rn

[buoyant matrix]

no idea what any of those are

[worldly sky]

Well at least the Switch 2 physical version works on Switch 1

[lyric matrix]

I don't know that it's locked to 720p, it may just be that that is the most consistent with 60fps and if you go above you'll see frame drops?

[worldly sky]

Super Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime Beyond

[meager garden]

galaxy 1+2 is a rerelease of 2 Wii games
metroid prime 4 is the newest release in the metroid prime series, after 8 years of development troubles

[mystic cypress]

Definitely not made by any company worth any money

[buoyant matrix]

oh right, nintendo games

[lyric matrix]

Prime 4 doesn't come out for months and Galaxy 1+2 are available right away, right?

[worldly sky]

Idk the first game had no issues running at 1080p.

[buoyant matrix]

sorry i only play fairly priced content

[meager garden]

I think I saw some reddit posts calling for boycotts of galaxy
too bad people love mario too much

[worldly sky]

Galaxy comes out in October

[meager garden]

it had some framedrops at busy rooms of later regions

[buoyant matrix]

yeah but the first game had way fewer stuff happening on screen at all times, hades 2 is way more chaotic and visually stuffed

[granite mauve]

I kinda feel like its the opposite

[lyric matrix]

Zag's model alone is noticably ...lesser than Mel's

[worldly sky]

Well at least the physical copy of Hades 2 works on Switch 1. Maybe I will just get the physical copy (since I have Hades 1 physically)

[granite mauve]

with exceptions of course

[worldly sky]

Hmm, well I hardly notice it

[cursive kayak]

nah imo the backgrounds for 2 are much more detailed

[buoyant matrix]

I've played both games at a high level and hades 2 is significantly more visually cluttered

[worldly sky]

Any frame drops in the first game for Switch is barely noticeable unless you are really really sensitive to that kind of stuff

[lyric matrix]

That's what I did, even though I already have it on PC. I like having the physical versions.
Plus it's all cross-save anyways so it doesn't really matter

[granite mauve]

👍 ok

[mystic cypress]

H2 is probably better optimized even with more on-screen stuff

[worldly sky]

Yeah Im gonna get a physical copy for my Switch 1.

And hopefully when I get a Switch 2, I'll upgrade it.

it's coming out in November so prayers that it gets on sale for Black Friday/Cyber Monday

[cursive kayak]

yeah

[worldly sky]

Also I do kinda want to buy Super Mario Galaxy 1

[mystic cypress]

Buy it on Dolphin

[worldly sky]

don't have emulator

[worldly sky]

Will get both digitally. SMG 1 for 40 and then SMG 2 on the MAR10 sale

[worldly sky]

Yeah not gonna happen. I am gonna get SMG 1 first for 40 (I am buying it individually) and SMG 2 later on.

Hades 2 will have to wait because I am buying it physically

[meager garden]

fair nuff

galaxy 1 did come with 3d allstars a few years back though

though that was limited time, probably pricy now

[worldly sky]

yeah I didn't get that

Plus if anyone DID get that, they only need Mario Galaxy 2 then

[lyric matrix]

So much stuff coming out 😭
Hades 2
Absolum
Terminator 2
Marvel Cosmic Invasion
Mortal Kombat Kollection

[worldly sky]

At least you can buy it indivdually AND indivdually wise, they're not full price

[meager garden]

the pricing is pretty ridiculous though

[hearty fog]

Kirby Air Riders releases the same day as physical Hades 2.

[lyric matrix]

Shinobi was great

[worldly sky]

I am gonna see if I can get my hands on the physical version of Hades 2 for my Switch 1. And then when I get a Switch 2, will use the upgrade pack.

So I am holding out on Hades 2

I have the first game physical.

Gotta have the 2nd game physical as well

[lyric matrix]

I'm not sure if you need the upgrade pack if you have the physical, that might just be for the digital

[worldly sky]

Physical copy comes with upgrade pack iirc

and physical copy works on Switch 1 and 2

[lyric matrix]

I keep seeing them say on social media that it comes with both versions on the card

https://x.com/SupergiantGames/status/1966973532044489032

Supergiant Games (@SupergiantGames)

@Ai_iki86 Hey thank you! The physical edition has both the Nintendo Switch 2 and Nintendo Switch versions of the game on a standard game card (not a game key card). Also includes a full color Character Compendium booklet, soundtrack download code, and reversible cover.

X · Sep 13, 2025, 9:13 PM

[worldly sky]

Only certain games have that: Hades 2, Pokemon Legends ZA, Metroid Prime Beyond

[worldly sky]

Not a game key card is a W really

[worldly sky]

The pricing for the MK Kollection physical is insane:

Switch 2 version is more expensive than the PS5 version

[lyric matrix]

I get the idea behind the keycard, allowing for it to still have resale value, but I don't think people are into it.

[meager garden]

depends on the game I think

for a game like ff7 remake it'd be hard to get it onto a gamecard

especially since they're pricing it at 40

[nimble inlet]

But time itself is against us

[meager garden]

it's kinda how like switch 1 would have cloud versions of AAA games

[worldly sky]

yeah but then again CDPR managed to put CP2077 + PL on one cartridge

[worldly sky]

Time is always against us no matter what (Hades 2 wise and real life)

[lyric matrix]

I saw it on Steam for $45 right now, but it's not physical.
No clue why Switch 2 is so expensive compared to 1 considering the games are almost as old as me and Switch should be able to run it just fine

[worldly sky]

yeah but 50 dollars for that? Yea gonna have to wait on sale for that

[meager garden]

yeah idk how they squeezed it on a 64 gig cart

[worldly sky]

Super Mario Galaxy is priority number 1 for me

I never played SMG even tho I had a Wii

[nimble inlet]

No, time is not against us irl nor with us, it’s just there because that’s how it is, and you can look at the limit of time or the positive things you can do with your time

[lyric matrix]

Oh, yeah there's a lot of games on it, though, tbf and that's been their pricing even for the TMNT collection.
But I getcha. I'm sure it'll be on sale soon enough.

[worldly sky]

perhaps

[nimble inlet]

Sorry it’s 7 in the morning and filling philosophical

Feeling

[oak ivy]

no it's strictly against us, it makes us wrinkly and old...

[nimble inlet]

Damn

[nimble inlet]

That’s air

And it’s also not against us because we need it to live

[oak ivy]

no it's time, not air

[nimble inlet]

Old yes but that’s the point of the last one, wrinkly it’s air

[worldly sky]

Depends. If you already have All Stars, then SMG 2 is enough. Thankfully you can buy both individually and individually, its not full price.

For me I am gonna buy SMG 1 first and then get SMG 2 on the MAR10 sale (Mario games get discounted on that day, physical (and digital too iirc))

[granite mauve]

air does certainly take a lot of time to kill us

😼

[worldly sky]

Time and age

[oak ivy]

what's age if not time????

[oak ivy]

I thought it was the sun???

[nimble inlet]

What’s time if not age? It’s pointless

[granite mauve]

time is nothing at all buddy

[nimble inlet]

Multiple factors

[oak ivy]

y'all 😭

[granite mauve]

nothing is real and nothing matters so just give up

[nimble inlet]

Time is a reminder

[granite mauve]

einstein said so

[nimble inlet]

Nothing does matter, the void between atoms seems pretty important

[oak ivy]

Philosophy is when edgy and semantic:

[granite mauve]

theres no reason for those atoms or the space between them to exist 👿

[granite mauve]

on the internet everyone is a philosopher

[nimble inlet]

Maybe there is, that’s something we do not know

[granite mauve]

searching blindly for greater purpose is foolish

but on the other hand foolish cleared 67 fear so maybe its a good idea?

[nimble inlet]

Idk

I don’t believe in any upper being I just can’t really deny all of their beliefs

[raven perch]

But they do lol

[crude dragon]

Was struggling to understand what you meant there for a bit since SMG auto-translates to submachine gun for me

[atomic river]

what fear?

[oak ivy]

67 fear

it's ALL of them

[atomic river]

lol

[hearty fog]

Does max Void allow for Judgement?

[oak ivy]

no

[ebon oak]

If you have an enemy charmed or resurected and they kill someone in a Nemesis encounter, they should have their name pop up under Mel and Nem's as visual gag. Then if they somehow get the most kills, Nemesis just calls it off.

Familiars should also get their names by Mel and Nem's, but their score just gets added to Mel's at the end.

[hearty drift]

Is there ever a reason to not B-line hephaestus if you can? lol

[oak ivy]

Heph is not even that good what do you mean?

[broken glen]

A lot of heph propaganda has been pushed forward in this past update

[oak ivy]

I don't get any of this Heph hype...

I only like Uncanny fortitude, that's it

[broken glen]

Security system and trusty shield are nice

Especially if you have scars/haste and/or a skill issue (like I do)

[sour flower]

okay, weird. so this is how i originally thought it worked, so i thought it was pretty good. but then last night when i used it, i felt i kept getting stuck at 0 magick, hence my message. i must have been tripping (i was... a couple bottles of ambrosia in)

[sour flower]

his boons can be fun sometimes but most of the time i avoid him yea

i did a circe build with his cast and just stacked other gods omega cast effects and it obviously wasnt some optimal meta build but it was honestly very fun lol. i ran toula and just stacked my casts on top of each other as frequently as possible. i killed chronos with a venn diagram and it was very satisfying LOL

[merry whale]

even if u get stuck at 0 magick, once flood gain reactivates u get to use magick again anyway

so having more max magick ends up basically being a buffer for when flood gain is down

[sour flower]

yea i understood your first message, i was tripping

[formal hornet]

Hey everyone, can I get some help on how to unlock hidden aspects? I have only unlocked 1 - the staff and don't know what to do next?

[sour flower]

if you've already unlocked one, you're on track. just keep playing like normal and you'll unlock them. the main tip i could give you is that you get every hidden aspect by talking to a character that has an aspect. for example, you got the hidden aspect of the staff by talking to circe, because one of the aspects of the staff is the aspect of circe. for the daggers, it will be artemis that unlocks it for you. for the axe, charon. etc. etc.

[buoyant matrix]

trusty shield??!

[oak ivy]

Okay that one too yes!

[devout abyss]

"i am going to bed soon"

[oak ivy]

Not my fault I keep being tagged 😭

Let me sleeeeep

[limber summit]

https://tenor.com/view/x4ndrr-jake-gyllenhaal-gif-34612794103494451

[formal hornet]

could you tell me the exact requirements or its not allowed because of spoilers?

[buoyant matrix]

you have to unlock the three base aspects, upgrade one of them to max level, then ||speak with the owner of the second aspect||

[devout abyss]

why does you phone make noise

[oak ivy]

Because I like it 😔

[sour flower]

what @buoyant matrix said ^^ i forgot that part

[devout abyss]

okay but i don't

did you factor that in

[oak ivy]

I'll turn it off then ❤️

[devout abyss]

lilac house but it mansion

[oak ivy]

😭 I wish

[devout abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742056287264833546/1417735343385477331/show-me-your-silly-cats-v0-wplu39sp6l1d1.jpg?ex=68cb906e&is=68ca3eee&hm=4b9e48eff563a19dc3afda6570cb13e2e61a126768660aa435cd7dde24be6123&

[oak ivy]

Hades has Hypnos..
But who's the sleepiest character in Silksong?

[buoyant matrix]

darren korb in the studio watching louis cole grow two extra arms to play the end of time

[limber summit]

lace has been spotted sleeping multiple times

[oak ivy]

True but she doesn't give off a sleepy vibe..

[devout abyss]

me bro this game boring af 🤣

[buoyant matrix]

in hollow knight it's obviously cornifer

[limber summit]

idk man . when u arnt fighting her she is sleeping

lowkey this might sound like blasphemy but i like shakra more than conifer

[oak ivy]

The courier guys often sleep!! You have to smack them to wake them up

[oak ivy]

I agree, Shakra is so freaking cool

[devout abyss]

poSHANKA

[raven perch]

Me

[oak ivy]

Oooooshkaroooo

[devout abyss]

kalailailai

[limber summit]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-gif-17870535188958174605

[devout abyss]

is thay deku

[oak ivy]

What's rage bait?

In this conversation

[raven perch]

Shakra is wife Cornifer is bug uncle

[devout abyss]

buncle

[limber summit]

https://youtu.be/YwAs4SgrYfY

[devout abyss]

bunc trippin

[raven perch]

Odysseus kinda gives duncle vibes

[devout abyss]

dead?

[oak ivy]

Ry you need sleep too

[raven perch]

Dad-uncle

[devout abyss]

i slerep sdoon

[raven perch]

I was sleeping until i got woken up by the sound of amateur saxophone playing in the nearby vicinity

[devout abyss]

i went to bed at 5 am

[oak ivy]

... and played games in bed until 7 am !!!

😈

[devout abyss]

no i went to sleep at 5

who would chriss pratt play inthe silksong movie

kratt?

[oak ivy]

Lmaooo yes

[devout abyss]

priss chratt

[oak ivy]

Kratt or Mario

[oak ivy]

Who would you play in the silksong movie?

[devout abyss]

i think luigi is very cute

uhhhhhhhhhhh

let me think about my strengths

[oak ivy]

Trobbio????

[devout abyss]

maybe

[oak ivy]

TROBBIO 🎆 !!!!!!!!!!

[devout abyss]

is this VA or live action

[oak ivy]

VA I guess

[devout abyss]

grindle

[oak ivy]

Great answer too!!

[digital helm]

Mild question here do we think the keepsake container will ever be completely full? My OCD want it to be full

[raven perch]

Probably

[oak ivy]

Yeah it's likely

[raven perch]

No they’re actually gonna add one more over the limit so it’ll be slightly off

[oak ivy]

Eris would gift you a second keepsake just for that

Oh jeez okay it's 1 am

Goodnight!!

[raven perch]

Nighto

[limber summit]

bankai

[empty abyss]

the new companions gon be crazy. I wonder what it will be

Imagine Hades giving you Cerbie plush so now you can do the Santa Air Strike

[raven perch]

I don’t think we’re getting companions, they said no new abilities

[devout abyss]

i like all the custom familiar resting locations

[loud stirrup]

trobbio my goat 🙏

[glossy shadow]

It feels like they added base kit stun when hit, so that with frenzy you can be locked in place for a full half a second taking BARRAGES of damage, neither able to walk or dash away and not allowed to attack or cast or hex

[buoyant matrix]

that only happens with a few specific attacks

[glossy shadow]

The soggy shamblers' pathetic falls over on u attack in biome 2????

[sour flower]

they did not add base kit stun when hit lol

[buoyant matrix]

who the hell is soggy shambler 😭

[sour flower]

rare miniboss, only have 0.1% of encountering it

[glossy shadow]

I know the basic zombies get different encyclopedia entries, i know both surface and underground biome is water so the biome 2 shambler is named something about wetness

But the basic-est enemies in biome 2 sneaking up behind me when I'm smashing the big biome 3 mechs (vow of next biome enemies) and interrupting my hammer smash so I can't dodge the other big mech's ten thousand rapid lasers attack

Which holds me in place long enough to eat the first mech's light saber tornado attack and a dragon spewing fire over me

Extended duration stunlock from a whole cluster things that, like, shouldn't stun in the first place? In a run where I never saw a chaos gate so didn't have the "stunlock my whole situation up fam" curse

[sour flower]

bro has a cursed version of hades 2

[raven perch]

It’s just sea-shambler I believe?

[daring osprey]

Huhh? Did I read something wrong -

[glossy shadow]

I had a different curse just a couple days ago 😭😭😭 I already reinstalled over never seeing the mini shops mid-biome for like ten runs and I've consistently seen one(1) across whole runs since

On steam deck

Gave me the dark souls 2 poise instead

[dusky mountain]

Is it 25th yet

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-done-gif-24674884

[covert valve]

Frr man I keep counting days like a toddler excited for their favourite movie

[sharp cosmos]

days until we can pet the damn dog

[lucid bronze]

true but we’re pretty much guaranteed 2 new keepsakes

hopefully a 3rd to fill out the cabinet

[sharp cosmos]

they're gonna release 4 of them, and the extra one just gonna lay around the crossroad, gonna have to do a scavenger hunt every time you want to equip it

[lucid bronze]

eris keeps moving it around whenever mel is gone for the night to annoy her

peak game design

[glossy yew]

wow it's finally gonna be v1.0!

wonder what changes are gonna be in the final one

[ivory flare]

wish they would also put patch notes out

[buoyant matrix]

patch notes will drop at the same time as the update itself

[glossy yew]

osum

[little mason]

i want them now

😡

[ivory flare]

now would be the good time

[slim pike]

Close the entire discord first

[little mason]

log out too

[merry whale]

the one with the 67 all weapons will be given the 1.0 build before all the others

[lilac kiln]

When the v1.0 will be released, all our progress in the early patch we have till now will be deleted?

[slim pike]

No. Only zsand and void lenses

[lilac kiln]

Ok thanks a lot for the info!!

[marsh spear]

If they leave empty slots in the cabinet again ISTG I'll appear on the news

[sharp cosmos]

ban everyone, then post the patch notes on the discord only

outstanding move

[acoustic ruin]

"Florida man runs naked through neigbourhound, firing a gun and screaming about" WHY DID YOU LEAVE IT EMPTY" More on that in the 5 O clock news"

[sharp cosmos]

Or, alternatively, appearance in the city news bulletin gamer enjoys a release of a new game "I wish they'd completed this menu to look neat, but whatever, I'm having fun". And now, on the topic of the neighbourhood granny, who's cat is lost, once again

[buoyant matrix]

good ending 🥹

[empty abyss]

is Hades safe for work? The premise of the game is to defeat yo dad also being your boss

(I dont think the workplace will think this is safe for them)

[empty abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1385897089460076597/1417820007949271120/image.png?ex=68cbdf47&is=68ca8dc7&hm=41af35d1f0c8ca42e2b8aa35900b48b6d23571f5923fb18920ef3b0d9b6a6ac2 Insane face card

[verbal rampart]

She is so beautiful

Especially when she's flustered

[empty abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1385897089460076597/1417823262892757062/image.png?ex=68cbe24f&is=68ca90cf&hm=96bf5e1716daadb152e54363f1930ae3f52bf04323c13eda91e49c5d1255ac57 I swear this lass laughed so much when shes cursing our ahh like she defly enjoys doing it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1385897089460076597/1417823262892757062/image.png?ex=68cbe24f&is=68ca90cf&hm=96bf5e1716daadb152e54363f1930ae3f52bf04323c13eda91e49c5d1255ac57

[acoustic ruin]

If you think about it that forehead must be huge

[empty abyss]

have you seen The Ghoul from Fallout amazon show?

[acoustic ruin]

No I didn't

[empty abyss]

they nerfed Poly's command grab

[empty thistle]

Hades 1 is that, yes, however hades 2 is different

Hades 2 is qhite safe for work id say

[empty abyss]

Hades 2 is overthrowing an evil guy who stole his son's company to turn it into a war hunger organization

[empty thistle]

Yes, fulfilling your duty, performing the same near impossible task until you get the result you want

Think about it, add a few deadlines, like the fear, and suddenly it is not only safe for work, its recommended

[empty abyss]

yes protecting your family whos are known to destroy human's life for their own entertain and fight against the people who wants to make a change

Olympus: Toxic workplace
Chronos: Union

[empty thistle]

Yup, so hades 2 is definitely sfw

[pastel hearth]

How much of hades one should i have played in order to play hades 2?

[tranquil wren]

ideally you'd have beaten the game, but hades 2 is set up so that you don't have to play hades 1

[pastel hearth]

I did beat the game

Got the main ending, is that enough?

[tranquil wren]

yea

the epilogue is mainly to tie up loose ends in H1, not necessary for H2

[orchid acorn]

more or less yeah. All you really need from h1 is that mom is home and back as queen

epilogue has some implications in h2 but its mostly fluff

like the olympians came to visit etc

but its mentioned in h2 anyway so who cares

[cinder gorge]

so I just noticed something

why was Ares not shown in the trailer if all the other gods were? (excluding Hades obviously)

[undone saffron]

My queen

[orchid acorn]

spoilers since he is a lategame unlock

[limpid oar]

More than enough

[cinder gorge]

hmm, so is Athena

by the time you get to her you're usually a few runs in

[orchid acorn]

tinfoil hat theory, they heard our feedback that ares sucks and just like the familiar incantation we complained about they are just gonna cut him from the game

[limpid oar]

Or maybe he is switching sides in the 1.0 story stuff

[orchid acorn]

"his boons all suck cause he was sabotaging us"

[idle crater]

since when does ares suck. is this a high fear thing

[orchid acorn]

pretty much since launch and repeated nerfs after new toy syndrome wore off

the one good thing he has currently is HA

Sword drops have been nerfed via the duo, as they now drop less swords innately so "doubling" the swords is less damage

Blood drops are ass, and now are capped

[pseudo wing]

I dont think they will rework ares, but if they do, id be so happy
His sprite and his voice r so good but most of the time id rather getting any other boon

[orchid acorn]

wounds are .... ok? but are more of a means to an end to get stuff like double damage going

Ares exists for his minicrits and thats about it

[idle crater]

huh

[orchid acorn]

Overly reliant on his legenday to make blood drops playable
His magick is a joke, reused and nerfed one of the worst magicks in the gmae that got reworked for a reason(flood gain, but worse)

his posiedon duo boon was nerfed
his aphro duo boon was nerfed, cause hearthrobs can't have anything remotely viable apparently

his ares-demeter duo boon was nerfed for circe cause it was too strong to have double casts following you

[marsh spear]

Yiikes

When you lay down the timeline like that it's painful to read

[sharp plank]

Hey, so I just started my run and got steady growth as my second boon, and now have the option to take bridal glow, having a 50% chance of making it heroic. I read somewhere that the heroic version of steady growth was bugged, this should be fixed, right?

And beside that, it already is epic. Would you consider it worth it taking this risk or should I just go for hitch on cast? 😄

[orchid acorn]

I don't recall steady growth being bugged at heroic

BUT i do recall something along the lines of rarifying steady growth resetting the countdown

so if you were like 1 room away it would reset to 3 or 4 whatever heroic countdown is

[sharp plank]

It would go to 3, and it currently is at 3, so nothing to fear there

[orchid acorn]

then no real reason to not take it unless theres a big im not aware of

[sharp cosmos]

Hitch on cast is very good for cc, especially for oceanus
But at the same time, if you're at the beginning of the run, like location 3, upgrading to heroic will snowball so much it'd be a waste to not do so

[sharp plank]

Well I could instead just take hitch on cast to get my second debuff on enemies, which is the safe way. If I take bridal glow it could also just upgrade my attack from epic to heroic which is not bad of course, but worse than just going the safe route

[sharp plank]

Yeah that was what I was thinking

Oh well, I will go for it. Wish me luck it upgrades the right one haha

Nope. I got the attack upgraded 🫠

Wait, can steady growth upgrade itself?

[sharp cosmos]

That'd be weird, but I've no concrete answer to that question

[maiden salmon]

I believe so.

[sharp plank]

Well I am in the first region on the surface, so I can take 3 encounters giving me no boons, so after this I still only have two boons, one of which already is heroic, the other being the epic steady growth

So I would think it should upgrade itself then - let's see

Okay nope, it just gained levels 😅

So it wont upgrade itself

[orchid acorn]

not since the last balance patch

(unless its the only option)

[sharp plank]

It was the only option

It still did not upgrade itself

[orchid acorn]

· Steady Growth (Demeter): now will only Rarify itself if you have no other eligible Boons

what was the other options it had

[sharp plank]

flame flourish, already heroic

I think it granted flame flourish leves though

I do not think I upgraded it with anything and it is on lvl 3 now

[orchid acorn]

you said you gained levels, that means it rarified bridal glow

which gives another pom

[sharp plank]

🤦‍♂️

Oh yeah

[orchid acorn]

its not just core boons its ANY boon

[sharp plank]

I forgot bridal glow still stays as a boon, even though it technically only has an effect once

[orchid acorn]

you can sell it for cash, thats why

[sharp plank]

fair enough

Ohh man, I was so hyped to not only get my first epic steady growth, but also even getting it to heroic

Well I guess I can still be happy about it activating every 4 instead of 6 encounters

[hallow vault]

Just 8 days lol

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-taste-hahaha-funny-creep-gif-15086659

[sharp plank]

I might be dumb, but how good is slow cooker? +2 power per fire boon does not seem all too much

I have 5 fire boons atm, and can either take this or freeze burner

[orchid acorn]

if you asked 3 months ago it was the most broken boon in the game due toa bug

[sharp nymph]

man , ive always avoided the kings ransom , untill this run, ive never had such high lvl boons lol

[orchid acorn]

but as intended slow cooker is just... kinda ok? its flat power based on fire but fire people don't really.... WANT power.

[sharp plank]

Well if it is a bug, then it does not really count, does it? 😄

[orchid acorn]

it counts when it added power to EVERYTHING in the game

so +2 flat damage to literally anything

fire walk? +2 damage per power.
Gusts that tick every .2 seconds? +2 damage stacking

etc

[sharp plank]

Okay but would quality air not be even more powerful then?

I mean they removed its dmg upgrade from scorch, but still in combination with gusts it works, doesnt it?

*Air quality I meant

[orchid acorn]

no because air quality is the literal last thing in the damage step

Air quality is "if the damage isn't 50, make it 50"

power is before ANY % damage boosts etc

[sharp plank]

Ah so you could go way higher than just 50 with slow cooker?

[orchid acorn]

more that you can get 50 damage with like.... any number of variations of % damage boosts

[sharp plank]

But like, assuming you got like 8 fire boons, with slow cooker that would be +16 power

[orchid acorn]

16 flat damage added to the calculation yes

[sharp plank]

You would need to at least double or even tripple this to get over the 50 dmg

[orchid acorn]

You're forgetting % damage boosts and the base damage of the abilities

[sharp plank]

of course neglecting the starting dmg

[vernal carbon]

avoiding damage in this game is so freaking hard. fighting Prometheus just now I had a good fight, but I still took 180 damage. even on the memory game, I couldn't get from top to bottom fast enough, and there were some attack combinations I just couldn't dodge out of fast enough. like a circle of fire where he then kicked into the only space I could run.

[orchid acorn]

Lets take a epic demeter sprint

16 base damage + 16 power =32.

Origination is VERY easy to activate so thats %50 damage.
Furies is VERY easy to activate, so another 30%

That alone is 80% damage, so we're doing over 50 damage already just off arcana, let alone literally anything else you get that run

[sharp plank]

Yeah I see

Okay well, still that got fixed though 😄

[idle cypress]

If you struggle with moving across the map you should stay close to the top / bottom since the distance is shorter

[sharp plank]

I guess I will just take freezer burn then?

[orchid acorn]

which yeah now slow cooker is just back to being mid. Its ok but like most infusions its just supplemental stuff t your run

[sharp plank]

I mean I am ridiculously strong as is, everything else is just win more at this point

[vernal carbon]

now I'm fighting ||spawn of typhon|| and it's 10x worse. how tf are you supposed to avoid these attacks? you're in a tiny arena with fast attacks that cover the entire room and there's nowhere to freaking go. I always end up losing 1 or more DDs to the stupid minibosses in the final region.

[orchid acorn]

In order

1- The memory game failure is a skill issue. When i tested it to myth break you literally have enough time(assuming frenzy zero) to walk with one singular dash across the arena when the memory game is on opposite sides

2- You can avoid every single one of proms attacks, most involve dodging through him not AWAY.

like a circle of fire where he then kicked into the only space I could run.
Sounds like you should've known that he spawns the circle of fire at your location and yknow.... not corned yourself.

now I'm fighting spawn of typhon and it's 10x worse. how tf are you supposed to avoid these attacks? you're in a tiny arena with fast attacks that cover the entire room and there's nowhere to freaking go. I always end up losing 1 or more DDs to the stupid minibosses in the final region.
I too used to think spawn was BS. Then i saw how other players did the fight and realized that he is timing based and has incredibly easy tells. He does a 3 hit sequence, dash through him, dash through him. dash through his AOE stomp, punish during his animation CD

[fathom lake]

UPLOAD JUMPSDCARE

[sharp nymph]

i actually found moving away from DD into strength gave me way more many wins due to the extra dmg being so muchb

in fact i hadnt even got to typhoon b4 i swapped to str

[vernal carbon]

the game does an incredibly bad job of teaching players how to approach the fights. if you try "dodging through" some bosses and attacks like polyphemus or, yes, Prometheus, you get hit for huge damage. and how do you "dash through" his aoe?

if you're talking about using the iframes on dodge to avoid damage, that's honestly kinda garbage.

[orchid acorn]

You dash through the boss before their animation finished and they are attacking the side you arne't pon

[marsh spear]

NEW SONG DROPPED

[vernal carbon]

so you're saying that the game demands you learn every animation down to the frames for every boss? that doesn't seem reasonable...

[buoyant matrix]

99% of games today involve using dodge iframes to avoid damage??

[orchid acorn]

No, im saying that the game expects you as a player to learn what bosses do.

You don't need to perfectly iframe dodge these things

[vernal carbon]

lmao. sweaty tryhard souls games maybe, sure.

[orchid acorn]

He only has so many moves and they slowly expand as the phase changes

[marsh spear]

Dude

[dim kernel]

have you tried godmode

[orchid acorn]

He does 1/2/3 moves in a row in phases 1/2/3

[buoyant matrix]

https://youtu.be/iDfSTMw9qsI?si=Q92CW1B7MDY6ivr2

[orchid acorn]

You can either play at a distance waiting for them to resolve, or be more aggressive like you seem to want to be and punish him

but if you aren't good that latter strategy won't work

play safer, learn the tells of the bosses like... most games this age

[vernal carbon]

I'm not talking about what bosses do. I'm saying if the only way to avoid an attack is to dodge through it on the exact right window, and the game doesn't really teach the player how to do that, that's lame. and very different from the first game.

[marsh spear]

I compensate for my bad dodges by seeing it as a life tax. I'm not kidding

[orchid acorn]

Its not, im telling you how i tend to solve it

[marsh spear]

Like, i plan and put aside HP as a way to go through Prom

[buoyant matrix]

the first game also included iframing through a lot of attacks idk man

[sharp nymph]

most bosses with an AOE type dash move that follows u want u to be pre dashing so u get caiught in iut, if ur patiennt u will see the pause just b4 it fitres and can dodge out i t

[marsh spear]

Dad spear spin

[sharp nymph]

excuse my typing 🙁

[orchid acorn]

For the move you are describing from prom you can either

A- bait out his attack and run away
B- dash through him
C- poke from range until hes forced to do the attack and you can dodge it normally

etc

[vernal carbon]

and that totally works. I've cleared 8 fear on both routes by just stacking enough health. but in H1, I could actually avoid the damage. taking away the double dodge and then making the enemies faster and giving them more aoes was certainly a choice...

[final token]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY HADES FIRST OF THE NAME

[sharp nymph]

i just want Eurydice grotto back and my life would be complete tbh

[marsh spear]

PLEASE

[orchid acorn]

For the move you're describing against the spawn of typhon you can

A- bait him into walls
B- dash through him to punish the attacks(NOT iframing, literally just dashing through him when his attacks are cose
C- use the breakable terrain
D-dash last second to the left/right

etc

and more depending on your weapon and build

[wintry dagger]

Yeah but now there are no mini self destructo chariots coming to chase after you

[marsh spear]

Eeeewwwwwww

[vernal carbon]

he destroys all the walls, no?

[orchid acorn]

eventually yes

[vernal carbon]

I legitimately don't understand how "it is WAY harder to avoid damage now that enemies are faster and we don't have a double dodge (or 50% dodge chance) and reliable Athena" is a spicy take.

[orchid acorn]

but its good to keep distance for the first half of the fight

[orchid acorn]

its more that you are refusing to engage with the game as designed. Yes, it IS infact harder now that you can't just sit in a corner with shield up 24/7, or athena deflect everything thats not a spicy take

[sharp nymph]

athena dodge was a crutch - there, i said it

also i took it ALL the time 😄

[orchid acorn]

also is it just me or did they just not list a time in #announcements

they don't seem to be live right now so...

[polar abyss]

They did not

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-smol-small-ragey-gif-26398063

ill just assume it'll be like noon(2~ hours)

[dim kernel]

2.0 tomorrow

[vernal carbon]

ugh. got stuck in a corner. tried to dash across to the right, and it turns out she can't do that. the room design definitely compounds the movement problems. https://imgur.com/a/mxJxzeI

[polar abyss]

You are right and wrong imo. You are right, in that Hades 2 IS harder than Hades 1 mechanically. You are wrong for complaining about said difficulty (imo). Plenty of video games are praised for trial and error learning, and just because you cannot damage trade a boss, does not mean it is bad.

Fixed the language. Sorry for the more judgmental nature of correct and incorrect

[orchid acorn]

yeah this is a valid complaint

you should absolutely be able to dash over the fountain

[vernal carbon]

woohoo! I'll take it! one valid complaint let's goooo

[orchid acorn]

i would argue however that cornering yourself was a problem on your end in the first place, but i originally expected to dodge there too

(granted i did it to try and move to the other door exit)

god damn why are you so rich

[vernal carbon]

got a chaos boon and poseidon boon I didn't actually want for more money, and then haven't had anything to spend it on.

[orchid acorn]

i'd ask if you didn't buy at the hermes shop but you clearly did 😭

bro is mr moneybags

[buoyant matrix]

oh god this damn fountain has repeatedly pissed me off

[orchid acorn]

we pray that this is actually the midfountain in disguise at 1.0

🙏

[buoyant matrix]

i just remembered, did the game have an incantation for a tartarus midfountain?

[orchid acorn]

yes

[buoyant matrix]

WHAT

what are the chances of it appearing?

[orchid acorn]

its side room only

[buoyant matrix]

i know

[sharp nymph]

on suface i have en empty shop spot in the mid areas after bosses, is this an unlock im missing?

[buoyant matrix]

i always took every sideroom before seriously grinding fear

[orchid acorn]

idk what the chances are but its like >3 depth or something and can't be the 1st side room

[buoyant matrix]

we're expecting it to be added in 1.0

[orchid acorn]

theoretically yes at 1.0

now currently no.

[sharp nymph]

aha ty 😄

[orchid acorn]

the dark horse theory is they forgot

and its getting removed at 1.0

[wintry dagger]

shop slot will just be Zag sitting on a sofa chair asking if everything is going well

[orchid acorn]

its actually dio when we bulli him into taking part in the war

"fine but im not leaving this chair"

https://tenor.com/view/courage-the-cowardly-dog-eustace-clah-blah-blah-not-leaving-this-chair-gif-14137060

[lost wing]

there's a video called something like "Let's Not Get Hit by Prometheus" that's pretty useful

goes through his whole moveset and how to avoid

[daring sun]

what would you say is the most forgiving/beginner friendly build and weapon?

[lost wing]

Oh, should have scrolled, someone already linked it

[orchid acorn]

depends HOW beginner

[daring sun]

ive gotten to chronos in the underworld with with the small staffs

not beaten phase 2 though

[orchid acorn]

Like if you don't have hera unlocked fine line o-attack spam on torch isn't gonna work for example

[daring sun]

hera ?

[orchid acorn]

Shes unlocked after you're able to play on the 2nd route

[daring sun]

yeah I got her unlocked

just having problems with chronos and promethius

[empty abyss]

https://youtu.be/TRSpQDZMctA?si=vb1BKxoebXdWCKvm

[orchid acorn]

Simple enough then

Take Mel torch(Or moros, but that gets a bit more complicated weaving in o-specials)
Take hera keepsake
Take born gain first, fine line as soon as you can get it
Take as much magick pot rooms as you can to increase your max magick
Take any of the following gods in the pursuit of their omega enhancement boons: Posiedon(also has a duo boon that makes this better)/Ares/Demeter/Athena
Hold down attack button in the general direction of the enemy

win

i dunno if anything else is more braindead than that, it used to be pan which was simple and strong but now just feels clunky

Circe maybe? borderline melee playstyle is more risky though

[polar abyss]

You can take Zeus keepsake though for Lightning Lance + Storm Ring

[daring sun]

I mean I only had issues with chronos and promethius 😛

[orchid acorn]

yeah fine line magick spam is literally the i win button since its ranged and high damage for the most part

[daring sun]

I think a big issue with my playstyle overall is I never use that spell on Q button 😅

[polar abyss]

I assume this is the non-Rivals versions?

[daring sun]

Ive never beat them

[orchid acorn]

yeah for general rooms literally just spam that button 24/7

[polar abyss]

Ah. Ok. How far have you gotten into the fights?

[orchid acorn]

there is never a downside to using it basekit

it has near zero animation, zero cooldown(other than it not being allowed to spawn twice) and is INSANE levels of mob cc

[polar abyss]

And also is there a specific attack that is troublesome?

[daring sun]

chronos I got to phase 2 I think its called

[polar abyss]

With the clock arena?

[daring sun]

uhm, the camera view is different

which I think means phase 2

[polar abyss]

Ok. Have you seen any arena that is not the House of Hades?

If so, that is Phase 2.

[daring sun]

yea

and it makes 3 different crircles of different sizes you gotta be in

[polar abyss]

And for Phase 2, I’d recommend as a start that you recognize the two instakills (if you haven’t already). One has a golden circle safe spot at one of the 12 hour marks, and the other has you stand around the middle ish of the arena.

[daring sun]

yeah thats were my runs have ended

the smaller circle on the left side

[polar abyss]

Ok. Don’t try to rush Chronos down. You can put him into Phase 2.2 during the Instakill duration, but it’s very risky, and more often than not requires White Antler as a keepsake (which I would really not recommend doing for your first clear).

Play it safely with the instakills

[daring sun]

would the sash be the best?

[daring osprey]

Make sure you have some DDs when you reach him if possible

[twin apex]

nah, just facetank it, trust

[daring osprey]

Oh wait not everyone plays with DDs

[polar abyss]

Armor can protect you from the instakill, but for a first clear, I’d recommend you take Pin if you have Death Defiances, or Knuckle Bones if you have Strength.

[daring sun]

so what ways are there? the cat, a keepsake anything else?

[polar abyss]

NPCs can give you DD refills

[daring sun]

forgot to gift athena 😭

[polar abyss]

||Narcissus, Echo, and Athena are the characters with DD refills||

[daring osprey]

Yeahh she can refill all DD

[twin apex]

also if you have enough gold, charon's shop can have DDs

[daring osprey]

Errrr two keepsakes, one you will get later on I think? The cat works well too if you have her level up

[daring sun]

||how to get the echo one? Ive met echo like 5 times atleast but no gift option||

[daring osprey]

Ah- is not her keepsake its the boon

[polar abyss]

You need to have at-least 1 empty Death Defiance

[icy blade]

what are the thoughts on strength vs dd with the current values? I've been playing with strength but I'm not that confident in the choice

[daring sun]

ive got like most the stuff

what torches are the better choice

[bronze oak]

Strength feels pretty bad as a defensive option but the dmg increase is still great. Overall its gonna be your confidence in how much damage youll be taking

[twin apex]

i would say usually supay, especially since it's easy to pick up. moros has the best damage output if you understand how the aspect works though

[orchid acorn]

Theoretically strength is always better if you just don't die 4head cause its free damage

In reality, DD's are almost always better now post nerf to strength

[daring sun]

supay? is the the mel ones?

[bronze oak]

I still use strength cuz i like it more. So sad that they've nerfed it so much 💔

[orchid acorn]

At low fear + low experience, you need the safety dd's provide you

At higher fears scars nuke strengths relevancy and almost every bug that bypasses scars has been fixed

[polar abyss]

It depends on Fear level and type of run.
Speedruns prefer Strength
But for fear for the average player…

• Death > Strength for first clear up to like… 8 fear, maybe.
• Strength > Death all the way up until around 50 Fear when you have learned and can basically clear a 0 fear run 100% of the time
• Death > Strength from about 51 to 62 Fear when you are forced to take Pain, and Scars 3
• But Strength > Death on some aspects because some aspects don’t do enough damage to go through the Time Gates of Erebus, Rival Eris, and Olympus / Rival Prom
• Strength > Death at 65 Fear, because Judgement will roll Death eventually, and you can get that extra damage in.

[twin apex]

dw about it yet if you don't recognize it

[orchid acorn]

at low fear + high experience strength is better cause well you're not dying anyway

if you find yourself winning runs with 2-3 dd's and didn't athena refill them its time to switch

[daring sun]

I got rank V on aspect of mel but I can unlock the Moros ones

[twin apex]

you could use mel torches, although moros is quite a bit better if you know how to use it. just... stay away from eos

[orchid acorn]

for the mana dump i was talking about?

[daring sun]

no what aspect is better

[bronze oak]

Eos was my favorite aspect before torch rework 💔

[polar abyss]

Eos and Moros are probably the two strongest torches right now

[orchid acorn]

Debatable, but moros is likely the best torch

Eos if they buff it at all might have a claim at 1.0

like giving it hidden helix back

[polar abyss]

Yeah, I think literally any semi-meaningful buff to Eos will make it the best torch.

[orchid acorn]

or letting us o-attack without resetting

even just regular attack

[polar abyss]

Like some people say that Night cycling is required for Eos, but it isn’t. You can just play the aspect straight with Hera / Zeus Attack + Scorch Special, and kill everything (Pyro Technique + Burning Desire later on for boss killing).

[orchid acorn]

optimal =/= required

but realistically you will be night cycling anyway

[polar abyss]

Perhaps. I just don’t usually like changing my setup. I’ve had to only change my setup once now for 62 clears (my most recent Artemis traded Boatman for Artificer Huntress just to get out of Erebus)

And I still kept the kitty

Oh, speaking of.. I’ve been stuck for the past 30 minutes trying to figure out a thumbnail for this thing. I don’t care if it’s memes… any suggestions for some Artemis video?

[orchid acorn]

go yoink some artemis fanart

[polar abyss]

I don’t want to just plaster her on the thumbnail. Though I did do that with Charon, and somehow that was the best performing video for me as of late.

[orchid acorn]

whats the context of artemis in the run

just huntress

[polar abyss]

It was a 62 Fear clear, wherein I didn’t take Trick Knives.

[orchid acorn]

oh right aspect of artemis is a thing

LMAO

[polar abyss]

Yeah, Aspect of Artemis

What did You think it was?

[orchid acorn]

an artemis boon or huntress

[polar abyss]

Ah.

[orchid acorn]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS03e0Br1ir0ZKf62TXd6YeYXLFoAwXI6Op8A&s

Replace this with chronos on the left and a frame of artemis parrying an attack on the right

[polar abyss]

Ah. Perfect

[mossy shuttle]

Does anyone know when the livestream is?

[polar abyss]

I was thinking of just taking the Eternity picture of Chronos though

[orchid acorn]

clickbait the new 1.0 trailer

with him all fangy

[orchid acorn]

assume its gonna be like the livestream a year ago, so like noonish EST

[mossy shuttle]

What about the day it’ll be?

[orchid acorn]

or like 30m give or take an hour

[orchid acorn]

presumably.... literally today

aka the anniversary

[polar abyss]

Oh. True.

Wait, I got a great idea…

[mossy shuttle]

Aight so I can watch the vod when I get home 😌

[polar abyss]

Give me a few minutes

[mossy shuttle]

I wish there was a satisfying parry mechanic in this game 🥀

Closest we got is Athena

[tawdry rock]

do we know when this anniversary stream will happen?

[lyric matrix]

Nope, which is annoying!

I don't see a time on their youtube page

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/4aeC4oz https://imgur.com/H3wsY3r possible frames

[orchid acorn]

twitch title just changed

so i confirm its today, likely soon

[polar abyss]

That second picture is what I need I think

I got a terrible idea.

[lyric matrix]

Yeah they said it's today, or at least heavily implied it was today for the anniversary of Hades

[frank mulch]

clearly you dont own an air fryer

[glacial parrot]

So scawy- ACHILLES IS MORE THREATENING THAN YOUUUU
Also hi everyone

[orchid acorn]

or if you want him cool https://imgur.com/fEgUqqV

[glacial parrot]

I do like his fit tho

[polar abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/zagreus-hades-thanzag-gif-11699709061626994537

This gif here, and others make me kind of cringe

I had an idea to do something like this for that second photo

[mossy shuttle]

Man I can’t wait for the 1.0 cooking minigame where we make tasty meals to help grandpa put on some weight

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/FcWcMkN

[mossy shuttle]

He looks like he hasn’t eaten since the last century

[candid nimbus]

Uhh question, does Island Getaway affect Glamour Gain Magick regeneration effect too? I see the Weak is applied, but did not notice if the Magick regen gets affected too

[polar abyss]

Probably because he hasn’t eaten since the last century

[slim pike]

Yep

[polar abyss]

Dude skipped breakfast, lunch, and dinner to be the chef that “serves revenge”

[slim pike]

You still have mana regen cooldown when you spend it

[glacial parrot]

Well… wait would they have.. WAAAAIITTT

GUYS GUYS GUYS

[mossy shuttle]

Chronos when he sees the child shaped steak: 🤤

[glacial parrot]

IF KRONOS IS BASED OFF EGYPTIAN THINGS

WHEN THE OLYMPIANS TOOK HIM DOWN, DID THEY MUMIFY HIM? LIKE TAKE OUT ALL HIS ORGANS ETC?

[raven perch]

They didn’t they cut him into pieces

That’s why he has the kintsugi marks

[candid nimbus]

Ohh, neat!

[glacial parrot]

Which in both Egypt and Greece was taboo because the culture and religion said it would prevent the cut up one from going to the afterlife

I do love the kintsugi too

[raven perch]

Well that’s kinda what they wanted haha

[glacial parrot]

The Egyptian practice of sealing broken pottery together with GOLLDD

[raven perch]

It’s Japanese?????

What

[glacial parrot]

I found sources that it was both

Huh guess i was wrong, thanks for the correction:)

[daring sun]

also do trials give any benefit other than the dust?

[raven perch]

Not really

[frank mulch]

a sense of achievement

[orchid acorn]

they unlock other incantations and stuff but its all chaos trial related

and stardust is used in recipes, such as making more pet treats or moondust iirc

so... yes

[mossy shuttle]

I mean there’s other aspects of his design that are Egyptian

[daring sun]

its unlocks stuff?

[orchid acorn]

behind the scenes bascally everything unlocks other stuff yes

[mossy shuttle]

It’s kinda crazy how I’ve done speeds and high fear but I still haven’t gotten around to knocking all the trials out 😭

[orchid acorn]

what exactly i couldn't tell you for sure but im fairly sure its just more chaos trials, replaying chaos trials and like bonds for chaos

wouldn't be shocked if theres something else tied to chaos trial completions though

[mossy shuttle]

There’s prophecies

[polar abyss]

Ok, I am done with the video thumbnail, I think

[sleek oar]

Lowkey i find chaos trials (minus the completely random ones) boring

[orchid acorn]

they are neat little excursions

certainly a worthy addition to the game, but not exactly replayable

which kinda sucks but w.e

[sleek oar]

I think i have about 8 that i didnt complete

[orchid acorn]

i had hopes for a seed system for sharable community chaos trials but i doubt thats happening

[sleek oar]

Because they feel like the same biome run

[west fossil]

A good old "sense of pride and accomplishment"?

[sleek oar]

But maybe thats just me being picky idk

[polar abyss]

Oh wait… I just saw a better thumbnail idea. Hang on…

[cursive kayak]

i think chaos trials are good for the casual player to see like the sorts of builds they intend to work

cuz yeah making your own builds and figuring it out on your own is best, if there’s aspects you don’t use or are unfamiliar with, it could be a good starting point

[sleek oar]

I havent looked at all the steam achievements tbh so ive been assuming therell probably be one tied to the chaos trials

[mossy shuttle]

I just hope they update the ones based around stuff that doesn’t exist anymore

[orchid acorn]

they already did.

Just.... not as good as i would hope

[mossy shuttle]

Sad

[orchid acorn]

the golden rule trial for instance now has paid dues

nevermind the fact that has nothing to do with posiedon/hera

or they removed the boons that give more money

[bronze oak]

theyre fun for vets too because they're usually "dream" builds that you might have been chasing for several runs and just cant get lucky enough for

[orchid acorn]

but it IS still money focused

[sleek oar]

Sasuke has bong water??

[bronze oak]

yea

[sleek oar]

Crazy

[polar abyss]

Ok, no. I’ll go with the first one, I guess.

I’ll upload the video I guess on the hour, and share the thumbnail here.

[bronze oak]

that would be so sick but sg seems to have their hands full already 😭 theres sm more i want from 1.0 which is crazy because h2 already has so so much more content than h1

[bronze oak]

IF ONLY you could farm specific resources from chaos trials like when you need 12 marble or iron for hidden aspects 😔

[mossy shuttle]

At least it provides a good place to put the entrance for modded content

[fathom lake]

8 dddddddaaaaaayyyyyysssss

[glacial parrot]

Fire name

I love Prometheus SO MUCHHHHHH

[fathom lake]

YES

MY HERO
GO TAKE THE GODS DOWN KING

[glacial parrot]

I draw him so much

[fathom lake]

AWeeesooooommmmeeee

[glacial parrot]

Okay hear me out, the song “whats my name” from descendants

The lyric “no ones gonna stop us so the world will be ours” is so lionflame coded

[polar abyss]

@orchid acorn Thank you, and You are welcome https://youtu.be/elEevKSimag?si=mRJplwPMXhYL8wbo

[orchid acorn]

lmfao

[frank mulch]

me when someone mentions olympus aflame and i have no choice but to listen to olympus aflame again its compulsive

LMAO

[fathom lake]

a

[polar abyss]

I was torn between this frame, and the one where he had all his teeth out, but that felt a bit much

This one is just right into showing Chronos be mentally stable /s

[glacial parrot]

What keepsake should i give for the nectar?
Lionflame art
Lionflame art
My actual hades oc’s keepsake after im done drawing it
Or lionflame art

[fathom lake]

I love how animal-esque Chronos looks in the trailer we never get to SEE how terryfying he is but the trailer really sells it as Melinoe Paralysis Sleep Demon

[glacial parrot]

Omg he is a sleep paralysis demon

[fathom lake]

Yes

Somebody draw him as the spot and my 62 fear run is yours

[glacial parrot]

I see it now

[glacial parrot]

BET. Which scene

[polar abyss]

True, but I also really was hoping for snarky Chronos. Like yeah, he’s an evil monster who shaped Mel into a child soldier, but like…. His dialogue isn’t often that

[fathom lake]

Pelase dont make do a 62 fear run

THE scene

[glacial parrot]

The final one??

[fathom lake]

Yes

[polar abyss]

There’s like 3 bits of dialogue I can think of where he acts a bit more up to par. 1. Is his flashback with Hades, and the other two are his anger outbursts of moments like “WELL THEY FAILED!”, and “Why did you not prevent it?”

[glacial parrot]

The “fill the holes with more holes?”

[fathom lake]

NAh

https://tenor.com/view/the-spot-across-the-spider-verse-spider-verse-gif-14244803388618741396

[glacial parrot]

Which scenee

[fathom lake]

I mean like in that style

[glacial parrot]

THATS THE SCENE I JUST SAID, NO?

[polar abyss]

No. That’s a scene where he figures out his powers

[polar abyss]

This scene I believe is when he tells Miles “It’s our future” ominously

[fathom lake]

See you back home Spiderman

[glacial parrot]

Spot is gonna get miles home, i bet

[hearty fog]

I do not remember those frames from Across the Spider-Verse.

But I also wasn't wearing my glasses when I saw it.

[fathom lake]

I just want to see Chronos as Mel Paralysis Demon

[glacial parrot]

Ares or Artemis chat

[glacial parrot]

B e t

[hearty fog]

Artemis.

[polar abyss]

Were you saying you were gonna do a 62 Fear run for the artwork?

[fathom lake]

OH god please dont do it
Anything but the 62 fear

[polar abyss]

Hey, it’s not that bad /s

Circe 62 is alright. Just don’t do Surface

[daring osprey]

62 fear no Arcana lets gooo

[polar abyss]

Well that’s just 67

[glacial parrot]

You don have to win the run

I just want want to see you try

[daring osprey]

Ouh, why not on the surface?

[fathom lake]

IM dying to hecate f

[daring osprey]

Welll 5 points "for free" to reduce to 62 fear lmfao

[polar abyss]

I have my own biases against 62 Surface. Typhon can take a DD off in a single hit, and Prom is a meaty wall of HP

[polar abyss]

No. If you were to die, it would probably be to Timer

[fathom lake]

OHHHHHhh yeah

[polar abyss]

62 UW requires you get like… 3 room skips or a sacrifice of all DDs with a near perfect Hecate

[fathom lake]

I hate timer so much

[polar abyss]

And then you have the rest of UW, which isn’t as tight on Timer except for probably Cerberus and definitely Chronos

And even with 3 room skips, you have to still get solid boons early on

In contrast, Surface has an Erebus of its own in Mount Olympus

[daring osprey]

I see I thought Circe is like- extra bad there, which I misunderstood

[daring sun]

does tula do extra damage against uh oh?

seemed like it

[polar abyss]

No. I said Circe staff, because it’s like… the best weapon to try 62 with for a newcomer.

Medea does more damage, but it’s much less safe imo

[daring osprey]

I see I see got it

With Circe do you do the "same combo" as witch one? dash strike into a special?

[polar abyss]

In fact, I named myself this username, cause Circe staff was the weapon I used for basically every benchmark past 32. 40, 50, and 62.

[polar abyss]

Yes, but you do want to position the cast well enough

I have two videos of me clearing 50 Fear with all rivals, and I do have a 62 Fear clear, but compared to even some of my less clean 62s, it by far is the least clean.

I said I’d stop after Nyx 62, and Artemis 62, but maybe I’ll do a redo of Circe 62.

But also plenty of others have done Circe 62, included Boated who just uploaded a Circe 65 clear.

If anyone wants to do a 62 before 1.0 releases therefore, Circe is the best weapon to attempt it imo.

[daring osprey]

Hmmm if so on the surface route, what would you say its the most consistent/safest weapon/aspect?

I am trying something stupid with 50 fear surface but I doubt I can do it before 1.0

[polar abyss]

Hmmmm… Circe or Medea again feels right. Surface requires you to get a higher peak of a build, so Medea may be better just for damage against Timer.

Though for the few who have done it, I still think Circe may have more clears at 62

[daring osprey]

Gotchaa maybe I will seriously give Circe a try then

Medea feels hard to use, very

[polar abyss]

Actually… at Surface, the aspect that has the most clears at 62 is Mel Staff, at 3 players

This is assuming that there is no duplicate player runs counted

[limpid oar]

Imo you should play Nyx

[polar abyss]

Why’s that? I never knew you were a fan of that aspect. Never used it personally

/s.

[buoyant matrix]

medea isn't safe for someone that doesn't know all the enemy attack patterns

the aspect feels braindead easy for us but you have to realize it's actually tough to use for casual

[normal mountain]

I don't know if anyone else feels like this, but what stops me from taking most of artemis's boons is the "chance" that it might inflict critical damage. - it either is or it is not. - I don't really like being forced to take a boon that has a "chance" to activate or not.

[polar abyss]

I know. But also I feel like an exception because I keep dashing in a bad way..

[buoyant matrix]

the "chance" will still occur regularly throughout your run, it's a good addition

[polar abyss]

Like I’ve done so well with Persephone, but somehow Medea is just not it for me.

[daring osprey]

Medea is probably the hardest weapon for me, but that's a huge skill issues on my part

[daring sun]

if you pick a boon room in the last part of underground instead of a number one, does it get harder?

[fathom lake]

Saitama or Mel with 100% Dodge Chance lmfao

[sharp nymph]

watching that run or ateris daggers really shows how trash i am at this game lol

i feel like Nemmis probably did after that zone 1 encounter

[normal mountain]

If I saw their coding for the boon, I'd probably understand it more and it will make sense. - because then I'll be able to work out how often it activates and how they work out that % chance in the coding. but we aren't privy to any of that information so I guess i'll never know lol

[daring sun]

like whats the difference if I pick a poseidon room or the III room?

[hearty fog]

Tartarus gets harder the longer you stay in it.

[daring sun]

chronos too?

[orchid acorn]

all regions get harder the longer you are in them

[hearty fog]

I don't know, but I think he doesn't.

[orchid acorn]

the boss doesn't, its just a roomdepth mechanic that spawns more enemies

[daring sun]

oh then Im not skipping boons

[orchid acorn]

5 rooms in a row = roomdepth6 (cause the starter room is room1)

Vs if you do like 3 side rooms is 9depth

[normal mountain]

technically.. but even when I have maximum fear on hordes it still feels easy to me lol

[lyric matrix]

Hades side room also increases the depth, or did

[orchid acorn]

ALL rooms do

full rooms anyway im not positive on how ephyra side rooms interact with depth, let alone rerouting through crossroads and the room again

https://www.twitch.tv/supergiantgames

stream is live btw, not like doing anything yet but live

[hearty fog]

Kinda. He certainly tops Than, but Meg tops everyone.

[hollow lily]

Miss me with that bisexuality

[orchid acorn]

sound on stream noway

[raven perch]

Thanatos is fugly

[orchid acorn]

thantos looking like hes part of a kpop band and about to drop some bars

[raven perch]

You’re so right. We should kill him

Wait they got his chiton wrong where’s his right tit

He’s not showing enough skin

[fiery laurel]

This is a weird question, I'm trying to make something but I can't find transparent pngs for Xinth or any of it's aspects, the wiki has them for every other weapon but not that one, is there anywhere I could find them?

[orchid acorn]

you should show them how its done meow, do a cosplay with full tit

[raven perch]

I’d rather die than cosplay Thanatos

Hate his bony white ass

[sleek oar]

Cosplay meg then

[daring osprey]

I remember seeing Thanatos front facing portrait in hades 1 for the first time and It scared me lol

[raven perch]

Ha!

[sleek oar]

I wanted to date hypnos insread in h1 🤧

[raven perch]

YOU GET ME

Not even like, for me! I feel that Hypnos and Zag have so much more in common, and they kinda sorta flirt, and there was such great potential there

And then Zag had to be such an ass

[polar abyss]

Tbh, I have no idea where they got the PNGs (I assume the game’s files), and I was hoping to also do something with them.

I guess go ask the specific users who made the other PNGs, because there are names listed in the wiki

[fiery laurel]

that sounds like an exercise in futility to track down wiki editors ngl

[orchid acorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1242476138400452648/1296163449172398181/Icon-Suit.png?ex=68cb9907&is=68ca4787&hm=696450b1e1dabc34b1e35fa52ed944c76e399f8e65e1182baf64bddf07d2a757&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

Found with a quick search

[raven perch]

Hypnos in H1 was my greatest disappointment because you have this story about generational trauma and parental abuse and emotional neglect. And then you have Hypnos, a character affected by generational trauma and parental abuse (Nyx goes out of her way to socially isolate him because she views him as unlovable to an extent) and emotional neglect, and you make fun of him

[orchid acorn]

not at home so i can't find more but ill keep digging in other areas

[fiery laurel]

what did you search thank you

[frank mulch]

integrating this into my lexicon btw

[orchid acorn]

other servers that shall not be named

[fiery laurel]

fair

[orchid acorn]

but there should be a file with all the icons transparent

[sharp nymph]

wot does the glitterball that shows up sometimes do? is it just like "lets party?" lol

[orchid acorn]

you took figleaf

[fiery laurel]

ah actually after looking at the aspects thats where that came from, I need the actual weapon like how I can find witch's staff and it's 3 reskins

[orchid acorn]

it skips the encounter for that room, like 33% chance

[sharp nymph]

aha ok ty

[sleek oar]

Yesss i felt bad for him bro, i think he was one of the more sympathetic characters 🤧

[orchid acorn]

you mean like. the model?

[sleek oar]

I hope whatever happens with him now is like, very interesting, im very excited

[hearty fog]

It definitely does not make up for how the story treats him at the start, but at least Zag, Than, and Hades all have the stance of "We were wrong about him, he's good at what he does and it's okay he is who he is," by the end of the game.

I don't remember Nyx ever moving past "I gave up on him."

[fiery laurel]

yeah sorry, the in game model. Like I said on the wiki you can find it for every other weapon, including their aspect reskins

[raven perch]

Hades is actually the only character that actually compliments Hypnos and sees value in his individual personality and not just his work ethic

[orchid acorn]

you'd have to extract it with the tools shown in the modding server, or you could ask there for them to do it for you afaik. See the pins in #self-promotion

[raven perch]

Which is also interesting! Zag’s abusive dad sees value in the black sheep of Nyx’s family

[hearty fog]

Aw, okay.

[raven perch]

She says she’ll check in again in a few millennia

Which. Ouch

[sharp nymph]

im just watching that arti 62 fear run and he ditches his DD after Cerby? why would he do that?

[hearty fog]

Damn, Nyx.

[polar abyss]

If that was me, it’s because of Renewed Faith

Renewed Faith DDs are more powerful than regular DDs, to trigger the Gorgon Amulet I need all of my DDs gone, and I lost the DDs after Cerberus instead of in Tartarus to save time on the Timer

[sleek oar]

Hypnos is just like me fr

(Eepy)

[sharp nymph]

oh ok 🙂 so much depth to this game lol. TY really fun to watch this run

[polar abyss]

Spoiler alert, though I do clear it, my Chronos fight was not as clean as the rest of the bosses and regions

I genuinely did not expect to have such a good set of boss fights prior to Chronos. Usually I may lose all of my DDs to Hecate or Sirens.

Yet I held onto 3 by Cerberus.

[sharp nymph]

yeah just watching the end of it now, the hecete fight looks so BUSY, i could hardly see what was happening just watching it let alone playing it

[polar abyss]

The hex I got for that run is probably one of the easier ones to avoid. The worst of them is probably the Lunar Ray, because you have 3 laser walls that spin, and 3 very fast Twilight curse balls chasing you.

[sharp nymph]

im still trying to get my second statue 🙂 keep failing at sorting out a decent gain

[polar abyss]

With enough practice, I know you can do it!

I remember when I felt like it was impossible to get 32, or 50, or 62.

Now I feel….. semi-competent at the near-highest difficulty

[sharp nymph]

ive gone from my first typoon kill 2 working on second statue in a couple of days, so heres hoping

or not even fuirst typhoon first promethus , he is hardest boss while learning him but his not bad now

[orchid acorn]

https://www.twitch.tv/supergiantgames

stream is officially live not just music btw

"last played sept 2020" is crazy

[glacial parrot]

Ohhhhhh @fathom lake

Check the fanworks chatttttttttttt

[little mason]

is ther egame laging

or it is just me lol

[oak ivy]

they engage so little with the community, it's really unfortunate yeah 😔

[orchid acorn]

even sgg knows phalan shot is ass in h1 and they leave it as is in h2 😭

[mossy tangle]

Tf you mean it's been 5 years D:

[little mason]

lowkey op