#h2-discussion
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it’s real
Buzz buzz
I mean all greek family disputes end up threatening the world ya know
the lack of Zagreus in the trailer made me sad
Theyd keep smth like that under wraps
oh 😳
Unless they really wanna draw him with the infernal eye properly
Hades 1 trailer makes it white
Tsk tsk tsk
Question, are we pretty sure it'll run basically fine on switch 1?
1.0 is coming and so am I.
wish it was during my PTO but oh well, at least it's 2 weeks away
I almost wish it was in October so I would have more time with silksong
you should check that out with a doctor 
NO WAY...SO THE TIME OF EARLY ACCESS IS...DONE?
I can make a very bad joke about a certain doctor procedure for that
Now what lmao
Sept 25th.
OMG OMG
2 WEEKS.
Announced today during Nintendo Direct
RAAAAAAAAAAH
My ass is buying the game 3 times 😭
we all go back to making HL3 Confirmed memes
understandable but it would also undercut melinoe
Both siblings need their time to shine, we'll get our beautiful prince soon enough
there is a whole game where zagreus shines and mel doesnt even get a peep 
Yup
We will meet Zag again really, really soon. Patience.
INB4 we get to play Zagreus once again
ohh ye i read your message wrong 💀 thought it was one of those "zagreus needs to be in h1" guys 
If zag was in H2 what would his keepsake do
Ain't gonna happen.
nah yeah I loved playing as baby melinoe in the first game, i can't wait to see zagreus in the 3rd /j
Turn Cast into bloodstones?
Also im moreso wondering where chiron is
Ehhhh maybe but how would that work
Like howling soul kinda does that
Or turn her Hexes into something related to her brother instead of Selene
"Path of Blood" or something like that
A zag hex like dad call
"If you want to play as zag we made a cool game 4 years ago that starred as him" - sgg 2024
Or we could have Zagreus give boons this time. He is a god after all...
2 dashes but no sprint
I see that happening
Thatd skew a lot of rush boons though
daily reminder that keepsakes require a scaling mechanic
Yeah
not just "have a 2nd dash" 4head cause that can't be spread between 4 levels
They would prob just do another Stutter Step like effect before that
Second dash and rush boons have their damage increased by 10/20/30/50%
EZPZ
Supay specific white antler
Like how Dad keepsake levels just made you start with more call gauge
Speaking of which, what's dad keepsake gonna do in Hades 2?
cerb
Hypnos
in this game i think that'd be horrible
Cerberus doesn't have an affinity tho so idk if we'll be able to bond
imo
hypnos should have a keepsake that makes rooms go to sleep so i can deal with automatons in peace
Only confirmed keepsakes we have are Hypnos and Hades, theoretically there could be no other 1.0 keepsakes
Maybe zag can give us a nice keepsake, and boons similar to hades, OR just help with upgrades. but idk
Do NOT give zag mom pom please
the two borderline guaranteed keepsakes we're getting at 1.0 is hades and hypnos
anyone else is pure speculation, though likely to fill out the 3rd slot
i HIGHLY doubt they expand the case - again - but its possible
Zag or maybe nyx?
the likely candidates are nyx/zag/fates
I forgot about the fates 💀
nyx because we follow the will of night, and she is literally night
zag for obvious reasons
Fates cause they seem to be a cornerstone of the plot and have a whole ass fated list to find/free them so surely we meet and thus can gift
Yeah
I only have a single question about the full release - does Chronos have a disney villain song?
no.
he deserves a villain song
SMASH TO CHRONOS
I just hope they add a new sort of buff when we get Keepsakes with maximum bond
Or actually wait he sings during surface rivals4 sometimes
It doesnt make much sense to me having maxed bonds and no effect on the keepsakes whatsoever
Me when I complete all 48 testaments and Nyx rewards me by pretending I did nothing.

It's to avoid gating gameplay progression behind a single affinity too much, especially since some have to be maxed out later than others
No companion keepsakes yet
I say yet but we may just not get them
that 100% falls underneath abilities
Although given the number of pals we have in this game id be surprised
i doubt we will get companion keepsakes when we literally have companions 2.0 for every run 💀
which, again we know they're lying about at least some part of the roadmap but companions are a BIG gameplay affect they would be shipping with no testing
Whats to be expected from 1.0, besides the conclusion of the story?
A few balance changes
I think i got everything i wanted out of the trailer gif wise
hopefully some achievments because i need to 100% this one too
yes, i am one of those people 😂
Oh yeah, true
i’ve been waiting for achievments since day one, i actually want to get those more than the end of the story
all character story lines, a few balance changes, some secret fight that's the equivalent of the charon fight in h1
and yeah the achievements are a given
Achievements were leaked a few weeks ago so you’re in luck
oh i didn’t see that, i’ll be surprised i guess
Yeah better to avoid spoilers
when 1.0 releases are you gonna do a new savefile or continue with the old one?
new
old one because upgrading everything again would take a lot of time
I'll be busy with irl stuff
Would there be major updates after release?
no
Very unlikely
will there be like a special marker on your save that it was an early access save
unlikely
i am like a sleeper agent, when new update comes i’m sucked into the game for 3 weeks, play what i can and then go back to hibernation lol so i’m safe to say i won’t see anything
Whatever is behind circe door
i might do a new one just to see the content in full because i don’t remember a lot of things from the beginning of it since i play it in on and off
i kinda want to try a fresh file run ngl
could you imagine the first night meli goes to slay chronos she succeeds 100% lmao
Eris makes it a lot harder
It’s so difficult though
I've always thought of doing it but every time I walk into fresh file in the speedrunning discord I get too confused what a sheet is 😭
absolutely, way more difficult than h1 fresh file
i will mourn the sister blades, those are my fav weapons, but a new save could be better story wise
there's a speedrun category for that yeah
I mean you unlock them second they wont be gone long
wrong lol
At least h2 is built around one dash h1 is not
H1 fresh file is def harder bc no double dash in a game built around dash spam
oh i know myself, i am not very good and takes a lot of attempts to get through the levels 😂
it took me 3-4 tries to fresh file hades 1 tho
Ah lmao
i think the increased damage and speed of hades 2 will be way worse
The humble guaranteed room 1 athena boon:
merciful end be like:
you can just avoid eris
me: 100+ tries in, god mode turned on and on maximum… ummmmm
H2 fresh file first clear should be pretty quick as long as you take your time, reason why the speedrunning category is bigger than H1
hmm ill try it rn
i just know i’ll put 100 more hours into the game after 1.0
Chronos looks absolutely DEVIOUS in this trailer i LOVE IT
i am extremely excited to see how the story progresses with each successful run
lol yeah, i would've kept him in but i wanted to keep it concise as possible, but entire trailer is immaculate
chronos devouring his granddaughter
literally the story, thats about it
Anything "Expected" is a short list
2-3 more keepsakes, only 2 realistically based off ingame stuff atm though
1 secret fight, due to leaked achievements last month that i can no longer post the ss of
after that, its all just lore.
There was something monstrously feral about Chronos in the 1.0 trailer.
he's hungry bro
king vermin lore...
I wish I could do that
@orchid acorn how is bl4 btw
p. good
better than 2 or nah
had some big performance issues at first but messing with settings fixed it
crashed like 6 times though before i fixed it all LMAO
I'm doing training to get my dream job, which is great and all
But the heavest parts of the training (and studying for huge tests) is the very day hades 2 1.0 drops
figures
so I can't binge the game
slightly below or on par atm? im not the biggest fan of the open world tbh i like linear more
same happened with bl3 launch though to a lesser extent
I just want them to go full stupid on the preorder physical release.
Gimme vinyl soundtrack with 80 colors, a statue, keychain, doorstops, ARTBOOK, posters, prints, a small comic that fits in the Switch case ||ART BOOK||
crazy how hades 2 was literally the only notable thing of the direct though
@buoyant matrix run this request up the chain, they OBVIOUSLY love you
Do we know who will be selling the physical copy??
excuse me?
wut
fire emblem 3 houses sequel is peak
I was happy to see the MK kollection getting a release date
new megas from the dlc that weren't in the tera leak is peak
i have a source that brings info to me
i have no means of sending info to them
the fact its a day 1 DLC isn't peak but w.e
Chaos Trials are so annoying because they force me to deal with Death's Defiance
Was very excited to see the release date info come out today
theres a date?? (also, ur gonna o great in training, so mote it be!!!!)
25th September
Having Death's defiance is such a huge nerf
yeah, the 1.0 release date just dropped
we evolved from on disk dlc to day 1
-20% damage
60 fps, 720p... think that will be fine for me, I can't afford a switch 2 right now.
not too big
WHAT HRE IM GOING TO IMPLODE I JUST WOKE UP ?????????????????
Do we know when the h2 eshop will be updated? It still says “coming soon”
I'm gonna need you to send some smoke signals, carrier pigeon or put a pepperoni pizza under a box propped up by a stick.
Whatever it takes!
check the trailer in #announcements
sorry dave that's just not how it works 😔
The 20% damage boost isn't that amazing. It's also not the part I'm talking about.
elaborate
If you don't know how good the damage reduction is for both your effective health and healing, then boy do I have good news for you.
You mean preordering on the Nintendo eshop, because I was able to preorder it this morning on Switch 2
Yeah e-shop is updated
Play without death's defiance and watch how much easier the game becomes.
Yeah! That’s weird, it hasnt updated for me
Maybe ill shut down and refresh
strength is 167% effective hp, death defiance is 220%
the selling point of strength is the 20% damage boost
Playing Nergal with death defiance its the gameplay of all time
Temporary health effectiveness, yes. It doesn't last the whole rub. And if you're playing in a way where you don't take damage at all, then you might as well use strength anyway.
also at higher fear where you're forced to run scars3 death is considerably better
the nintendo direct was today
it gave us the 1.0 trailer
And the Mario galaxy movie
Holy cow I cant wait for that...the first one was such an amazing experiece
at a casual and middle skill level yes
but at +50 fear it's REALLY hard to run strength
At normal fear I think its pretty balanced ngl
I swtich between Death and Strength a lot
At that point the math is different. For doing chaos trials, having death's defiance just makes it harder.
ERISS!!! WHEN I GET MY HANDS ON YOU ERISSS!!!!!
i don't understand how it becomes harder you effectively have more hp you just deal slightly less damage??
and you still get regular healing anyway
i regularly use both cards below 50 fear and they're both good
what
I just watched
tbf the main thing about chaos trials is since they tend to be mostly just 1 section it's ok
I SCREAMED
i legitimately wouldn't mind if they buffed the dmg from strength over the reduction, so it becomes more distinct as a "do more damage -> survive easier" compared to dd
Because healing from death's defiance procs is ass and you're always playing like you're about to die
13 days left!
OMFG IT'S LIKE THAT ONE MORNING WHEN I WOKE UP TO THE KH 4 TRAILER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I CANT WAIT
it's 40% of your max hp
bruh my semester has been so insanely derailed it's not funny
YESYEYES OMG
it's just mental, you probably get anxious when you see you're low on hp and play worse
If I'm playing with Strength all the time, which you think is harder, then I guess I'm better than I thought? Either way I always feel weak and so easily killed with death's defiance.
you have to below a specific hp threshold for her to not appear
10 runs, IIRC
i said strength is harder at +50 fear, I'm just saying it's not any stronger than death
ngl strength does make the game surprisingly more stable to play, it's just uhh bad at high fear
ah looked it up on wiki apparently it's below 50% hp good to know
ong the abs
Mother.
And I'm talking about chaos trials.
SHE'S SO COOL omg!!! I loved their chanting
does the game not force arcana on u in trials
Yeah, but remember that fountains heal you for 20%, so your real goal is 30% at the end of a region
Sometimes
mfs really arguing about arcana instead of simping for hecate
some do
yes, where it's not stronger than death, you're just suffering from placebo effect
oh that's big brain
Abs,,,, 🤤
but really what happens to icarus
So you're saying death's defiance is stronger 100% of the time?
i need her to do skullcrushers with my skull fr fr
Ab Witch ab witch
oh my god sulfur I'M SAYING THEY'RE EQUAL
THEY'RE EQUALLY VIABLE
pancakes waffles tweet
This ENTIRE GAME feels like they just went
Ok, it doesnt matter if it makes any sense, or if it's accurate to the mythos
Just make all of the characters hot, buff, or some combo of the 2
tbf they're gods
if i was a god and ugly id prob just jump off mount olympus ngl
Hephestus is supposed to be SO UGLY other gods outright try and kill him, and his wife refuses to be anywhere hear him
In this game?!?!
oh you wouldn't have to, they'd THROW you off olympus, just ask hephaestus he has experience
tbf hephastesus did jump off mount olympus lmao
give me my braincell back
If you have to shout, please remember you're trying to explain the math of high fear runs to someone who's doing chaos trials. Then getting mad when I don't find your input relevant.
ayy daddy zeus lmao
bro heph did one good thing for his mom and his reward was getting chucked off mount olympus i hate these mfs
honest question. Are there any ugly characters in this game?
Hello everyone,
I had a question about the PS5 version.
If I play the game on PC, when Hades 2 comes out on PS5, will I be able to transfer my save and therefore unlock the trophies on PS5?
I know there’s no official information yet, but I hope some of you might be able to guess based on the first Hades.
Thank you very much.
the enemies
ok nevermind, i give up, use whichever arcana you like 👍
I'll keep it in mind when I'm doing 50+ fear runs.
Stop being passive aggressive and pretending that's normal please.
what weapon type do you use the most in your runs?
that highly depends on what you're into i think
nope
I prefer the staff mostly, but I find all of them enjoyable. Except for skull.
also i'd argue the majority of the characters, if not all should be asthetically pleasing cuz the greeks are protraying them as the most idealized version of themselves
Skull just feels meh
try aspect of hel for skull
It's the best of the four
the laser attack actually feels so good
The skull is so fun
I still think the torches are my least used though
ye torches are kinda low in popularity rn
torches are kinda stronk though, just low popularity
the ankh staff + hesta >:)
Why the 1.0 announcement wasn’t tag everyone 
i only know about it from videos
I dont want to set the worldddd onnnn fireeeeeeeeeee
Supergiant games you can't just shadow drop the final reveal trailer while I'm busy silking the song 😭😭😭
ooh if you could get the demeter hestia duo it slaps
It's tagged for everyone who wants announcements I think
get ready for all your time to be consumed buddy lmao
it was tagged @ here
it was a @ here tag
I HAVE COLLEGE MAN
GOD HELP ME 😭
so only people who are online at the moment
btw guys, has anyone turned off the pact of punishment? Or just left it on permanently like I have
oath or pact
i haven't ran anything below 32 for a long time
The update before used everyone
Well there more content to offer with it on so you know
although when 1.0 drops i will turn off everything except frenzy2
Hrmmm
But for this instance it's going off
bro same istg this was planned to sabotage my classes lmao
IM GETTING THOSE BOTTLES OF SAND
scarlet hollow ch 5 drops tomorrow too (i lied)
I have a question with the switch release does 1.0 include all the content that was on early access on PC
I wonder what new music will be added in the 1.0
Like is 1.0 the newest version
I'm gunna miss Heroic tough gain once I start doing super high fear
Team cherry and supergiant games deliberately sabotaging the education of thousands by releasing in the worst possible date 💀
yes it will launch on 25th September for pc and switch
yeah 1.0 is the complete version technically
exactly
Ahhh ok
Nergal tough gain strength, turn brain off, brrrrr
ending and epilogue completely added
zagreus: "this fish in oceanus told me she and her band have a performance later tonigh-"
mel: "no"
Another 240 million to team cherry and Supergiant games
👏👏👏
inb4 my sweet prince icarus sacrifices himself to return meli's arm in the climatic showdown
Also apparently Hades 2 has way more content than Hades 1 I put around 900 hours into hades 1
Do we have any news if there plans for dlcs or it ll be like the first game ?
it has yes
another 200k rosaries to Pharloom
around 2x content
I'm so ready to have a whole week of PTO just to play Hades 2
sgg has never released dlc so count on none being planned
Can you stop pulling my heartstrings.
there's a lot more content, a lot more playstyles
the arcana set (the diff version of the mirror of the night) has a lot more variability
Im a big Axe fan
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@buoyant matrix
based
Protip. Just cheat in college with online resources. Most degrees are worthless anyway. No one knows what they're doing. Meritocracy is a lie. People in power operate on vibes-based decision making.
Oops. I said a curse. Anyways I'm done now actually
Please don't summon the power levelers
But, brave Icarus now lives solely in the Princess's heart...
Well I'm gonna go out of this chat I don't wanna get spoiled have a good night everyone
Now play video games without regret.
Let them come
NOW I'm done
is this boon-less melinoe or with boons?
Yes
Typhon looks massive in the trailer i love it
It's Melinoe after she mews and chad faces
while you do have some merit, we should still strive to learn content if we are trying to contribute to society
like if my doctor's looking up how to cure me on chatgpt i might as well stay sick dawg
ROFL, in that trailer, Dio is not on either the Mel or God group
Though Eris is Among Us
I would eat an apple in front of them if I saw them doing that
I'ma assume this is internet joke/sarcasm but if u cheat to pass, at least learn something as u go
dio and icarus both die??? can my heart handle anymore betrayal???
Icarus, Nass, Echo
betrayal indeed.
I agree. I should add the context that the A-F grading system is a joke and that tests aren't applicable to real world performance either. People learn in different ways, and if being a test-taker Andy isn't your way, then cheat.
narcissus is too busy staring at his own face to appear ngl lmao
aye that's a good point
maybe he go with echo?
Echo? She help us... help us... help us...
yeah ur cooked. One thing for a doctor to look up or ask information from another doctor, but asking ai (for more than just the fact it sucks) to help with ur health is so dystopian
honestly fairly possible i really enjoy his arc of being slightly less douchy
yeah a doctor looking up info or asking it is just them being good at their job and prioritizing the patient
a doctor using chatgpt, brother im gone
What
nem cured him
any chance we get companions (from hades 1) for hades 2 or no because they make some parts too easy
oh god does that mean hephastesus becomes a crypto bro in the future
In the future our doctor appointments will involve visiting the on-site Ai chatbot who will diagnose you.
we have pets now if that's what ur asking
"Witchie, Bitcoin is the currency of the future"
@fathom lake i like power surge because it acts as denial fodder so i can get the other good boons later!!
HESPHESTUS NO
hephaestus get awya from that rug!!!
im trying to escape the current ongoing situation for a while so i really don't appreciate when you tell the future apollo
"witchie the nft market crashed witchie"
what you dont do that already? /j
"witchie aphrodite left me witchie"
HEPHAESTUS NOO
"Aphrodite said I was special, why did she leave me"
Hephaestus why are u driving so fast slowdown
hephaestus pulling up to the gods council and saying "pack it up mates i just lost the mountain"
DRIVING IN MY WHEEL!
RIGHT AFTER A CASK
Hephaestus taking a sponsor from Gamer Supps for his twitch channel
i wonder what heph thinks of corium metal (nuclear reactor core melted with control rods)
heph x ares duo boon: Hiroshima
I hate knowing what gamre supps is please take this knowledge away from me
guys check #fan-works RIGHT NOW
why
Are you sure
POV ur persephone
i wanted y'all to see that
"Let me break it down for you Zagreus"
Persephone be like "okay he's kind of authoritarian but those cheeks tho"
packing heat in his underworld bro
you think hades is authoritatian, persephone after hades 2 is gonna be like the most helicopter parent ever
SEP 25!!!
thank u
Are you sure?
tbf he didn't really have a choice for picking what area to rule
they literally drew lots (mentioned in hades 1)
Melinoe when she reaches 100% dodge chance
I had one more in the chamber.
Am I nuts or was that Asterius in the trailer
I KNOW WHO I AM THE MOONLIT LAKE TOLD ME
This for the person that made the rainbow flag picture for melinoe i already forgot ur username im sorry
Who would win, Melinoe at 100% dodge chance or Goku?
Bugs Bunny
charon lover 3000 or something
Exactly
shaggy
Me
.
Arachne vs. Hornet
Not the game having a voiceline for reaching 100% dodge love it
sorry its such a late reply again XD, but whats wrong with shiva?
They'd have tea and crumpets together or something
i just really find it lame is all
yakuza reference
ishowspeed
She makes hornet a nice dress :>
Is there really a line for it?
charon aspect my beloved
two princesses? they def chatting
Exactly
Haelian has a video reaching 100% dodge and THERE is a line
from who?
ong i want an arachne crest for silksong now
hornet lowkey evil tho
guys where do we post hades 2 fanart
what does it say
#fan-works
or rather has an innate tendency
I dont rember
Its from definitely not Homer
Silksong intensifies
slight story spoilers tho
tendency? battle tendency? JOJO'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE
tyty
Overdrive yeah that's what it is
I really hate Eris fight
She just needs a hug
Its so obnoxious trying to dodge the laser beams
lukewarm take but rivals eris is easier than normal eris
I swear I cant bear how awful it is
they hit like wet paper tissue anyways so it doesnt matter
She always takes 2+ health barts
i still get blasted for a ton of damage when i get poked by them lol
like rivals is straight up just easier no doubt, just that it's a little annoying trying to decipher her laser patterns
Thats my issue
the laser only hits for one tick whenever i fight her, the machine gun on the other hand gives me ptsd...
wait a moment. it looks like I'm missing a pet. I have ||Frog, bird, cat, dog|| but there is still an open seat
also the bomb on normal eris does like 50/100 damage or something
is it in the game yet, or am I missing content
theres the squirrel on olympus endshop
ye ur missing a pet rn
.......I'm so dumb LOLOL
When al the shot gun bullets get you in the last phase 💀
gale the polecat on olympus yeah
I thought it was a polecat
mf said squirrel 😭
ah hell nah
i hate the shotgun thing
it isnt a squirrel wtf?
no in what world is he a squirrel 😭
i always thought it was
you thought wrong
he's a dog no?
tbh i woulda thought it was a sq- WHAT
wtf even is a polecat that looks like a squirrel
I had no idea what gale is he looks like a racoon lowkey
I need to have a mom discussion with hecate and Persephone PLEASE
hecuba is the dog
arent polecats just weasles tho?
same tree different branch
i thought meli got that dawg in her tho???
Persephone might be your mother but Hecate is your momma
where does medea fit in all this
fun fact, she's the trojan queen u.u
the mommy in bed
The drunk problem aunt
not so fun fact actually
ive never heard the word polecat lol atleast i know what a weasel is
your mother from another daughter
hmm maybe zag's keepsake (if he gets one) will change one aspect of ur playstyle similar to hades keepsake changing ur call?
medea and persephone are skull aspects 🔥
maybe ur cast becomes a bloodstone
if i wanted to play like bloodstones i'd just play skull
oh so a detrimental keepsake
weasels are mustelid but not all mustelids are weasels
dont call hecate mom
ferret/weasels/stoats/otters etc
yall play lisa the painful
What does Mussolini have to do with this
polecat is in that family
he probably had a pet weasel idk
Persephone is mom
hecate is mommy
fair
fascism aspect?!
new weapon leaked for 1.0 release
i am more excited for patch notes than i am for 1.0 story 😭
she's a mother not a mom, never had the chance to raise a kid lmao
i need to read the patch notes so i can be let down or excited
rare pronto W
im so ready to ask my gf for hades 2
Im equally excited for Story Resolution and final patchnotes
ask her???
I’m so ready to dump another 500 hours into hades 2
im NOT excited for the medea cast and eros heal bug being fixed
Thatd be cool
yeah because theyll get it for me bc they love me so much??
ah mb i was never loved
Poseidon internal cooldown its not getting removed
how sweet, i hope u 2 enjoy it
1.0 secret encounter we’re so close
real if i saw right they changed persephone Ospecial?
we have seen poseidon with no icd on pan aspect they arent removing it lol
Its Zagreus. /hj
it just takes you in a straight line now
yeah she gets sprouted instead, ur boons get lvl ups randomly
i watched that part like 4 times THINKING something was off but couldnt tell
which tbh works really well cuz in h1 she had pompower
My first thought was “we beat him up and take his money” but we already do that to nemesis
it's legit so funny to me cuz blitz like dominates 99% of all builds, but suddenly when pan has the benefit of having a unique poseidon build they decide to nerf that
look at the way mel moves theres no fluidity you def have a fixed path now id bet money on it
HONESTLY i'll take it if they give me a god damn pom
even if a person did it it would move slower to account for how much u can move around
Power Surge nerf yall 🔥
lowkey it was just king tide that was the problem
bruh poseidon special only good on pan or supay torch bruh
blitz and lightning effects have crazy ass tier 2s and duos? easy, just nerf poseidon!!!
I remember way back in the day when people thought blitz was ass
it heals enemies for 10 hp per magick cost!
probably bc of poseidon + hestia synergy
it sucks too cuz he genuinely is really fun
every torch even
valid
im a masochist i put poseidon special on the axe (NOT nergal)
praying for icarus to get some more story relevance
atleast the attack doesnt have an icd on hel
"We removed Revenge Boons to nerf Heinous Affront!"
oh man when the axe had that 3 hit poseidon special was actually really good
heinous affront nerf isnt real, they even buffed it like the first week it released or something
ngl i feel like aphro is the strongest boon giver
objectively wrong
either her or demeter from olympians
like at least poseidon's froth is genuinely super solid rn and turns poseidon into a solid support generalist, kinda sucks when his already relatively niche splash boons get target nerfed
i still wish they made the ares/hera duo stack infinitely like i thought it did
Uhhhh wtf
200% damage for being close to ur enemy???
i thought it was 20% of your new total not perma 20% speed at all times
Why did I get a notification saying H2 is releasing 25 September
it is
because it is
because it is
v1.0
Because H2 is releasing 25 September
1.0?
apollo and hera are better boon givers if its about the atk / special
Yes 1.0
im buying it again on my switch bc thats just the best way to play hades games i fear
You missed the explosion of chat many hours ago
apollo...
It’s been alive for so many hours since
hitch may be good, but apollo? really?
There is an internal clock of 13 days now
apollo is only good on the axe for the flat dmg buff and u might as well get aphro bc she gets more dmg and scales better with poms
Does anyone else think the new trailer has some Jojo vibes in the art style?
I agree with you Charon enthusiast, but disagree on the reasoning. The actual reason imo is Blinding Rush exists. That is huge.
i agree w/ hera, born gain, hitch + bridal glow is all good but apollo?
apollo has the bigger area effect, also opens up exceptional talent which is just good on every build.
also on the atk aphro only gives 20% more than apollo
Is the Hades 2 switch 2 physical actually $50 when it was stated it would be $40?
more castlevania than anything else
light smite, blinding rush, exceptional talent
Not on every build. Coat is not so good with Exceptional Talent
yeah but exceptional talent is legendary that's hard to find ngl
I can certainly see Castlevania.
And also several aspects won’t even use Omegas (e.g. Circe)
its good with the ospecial on shiva and selene
chat i need 3 more things for my patch note bingo
i find the best apollo boons rn are his rush boons and his daze cast, maybe backburner too
oh hang on Athena is also really good for boons
show da full thing
is medea balancing on there?
I guess. But the actual damage of the missiles is not worth it for Nyx and Mel Coat
its not randomized yet
good news guys, we actually dewinged Eris in v1.0 she's no longer an issue lol
Damn you @ kid_zomb I was studying for my exams, why didn't you ping me???
That's it. I'm gonna go play spec ops the line.
toula buff is not happening vro but we WILL get another strength nerf
toula does not need another buff she is perfect rn
Toula needs spawn changes
wait ur right
toula is already good with the damage and 80hp dd
She doesn’t need spawn changes. It would a nice QOL feature
yeah that sucks
She needs to either A- spawn INSTANTLY upon entering the room OR spawn in the middle of the room. The 2 second delay on spawning in the room sucks ass
Pet the dog
I like apollo because i like big ahh Attacks Double attack and Double omegas
thats basically guaranteed though
make it the free space
ok fair
I’d say that Toula is the most consistent familiar with DD already. Though that’s because Renewed Faith is busted.
hades keepsake maybe?
I'm making a bingo board gimme some ideas
frinos buff?
again basically confirmed
fair
grrr you're already making one
the main issue i can present to you is go play with her in mourning fields vs literally any other region
Fair Enough
#MSGA Make Strength Great Again
i mean tbf everything sucks in mourning fields
In mourning fields she is FORCED to spawn at the loot underneath mel, which is ACTUALLY amazing since you instantly activate her and she fights.
cause u can gift nectar?
it's mourning fields
I have Pronto. And I’ll tell you that it isn’t even necessary.
hell yeah
ill take 45% damage negation and +15% damage dealt
in every other region her spawning on a 1.5~ second delay at the door is horrible
oooh the girlies are fighting again
I’d advertise my 3 62 Fear UW clears with Toula here (posted, I have 4 total), but you can look it up if you wish cause this channel probably wouldn’t be fitting.
There are several other things imo that need more attention than a Toula QOL change.
Spt 25th huh
No
ayo hornet u unlock the attack helicopter upgrade yet???
Now y'all got me stuck between a rock and a hard place dawg. Do I study or do I play hades 2
Like I don’t disagree that such a change would be good. But also I don’t think it is required. She’s imo the best familiar for me right now. And again, there are several other things that should be changed first (such as Exceptional Talent not working super well on Coat).
study
Are you stuck in the tentacles
u have a test soon, and hades 2 will come back later
I hate material Mechanics
just like they're prepping v1.0, u gotta prep for ur exam
whats that
Yall think they will bring hell mode back again for hades 2
Okay, real nintendo switch question for the physical edition. Will it be allowed to be played on another friends switch as long as they have the cartridge installed?
im sorry but u gotta do it
hell mode?
It was in hades 1, it locked the pact of punishment to 5 right away from ur first run
Mechanics of materials, driving shafts, Structures, buckling, and shiet
And u couldn’t turn it down
In other words, engineering
Bro i just lost all of my rosaries i was so close to getting it
Pfp is accurate depiction of myself btw
I hope it’s more interesting this time tho
Hades 1 Hell mode was boring after the first few hours
HIIii guys
HEdido
Hegaleeeee
Shawwww
If you still can't give names to ur arcana sets I'm gonna be pissed because it's such an easy thing to do
will it be an accurate depiction of me if i study engineering in uni?
Depends, what field
25 Sep!!
sad no answer to my physical edition question. Hope I learn eventually
YASSSS
either mechanical or computer, dont like electrical
This is just my theory, considering that they didn’t say it was a game key card maybe it’s all on the cartridge?
I doubt it
Tbh, I don’t know. Haven’t played Switch 1/2 in a while, and I don’t remember all the details of how the new game cartridge system works now
a lot of games still require some additional download, but don't bindthemselves to the switch.
But supergiant is an indie studio so idk if they’re gonna go for the full cartridge
I have my prejudice towards computer science (cus I don't fw coding and shiet). Mechanical is cool af but taxing due to the amount of stuff you learn. Same with electrical.
Between all 3, I say mechanical and Electrical are the cooler ones.
I mean I already pre ordered it for switch 2, I’ll prolly buy it again once the physical comes out anyway
it was like 30 bucks so another 30 can’t hurt
A retail version of Hades II for Nintendo Switch 2 and Nintendo Switch on standard physical game card is coming November 20.
This is the only info we know
Standard physical game cart isn't a game key cart afaik
i wake up to find out we finally reaching 1.0
I haven't done it yet, but I think there is somehow a way to even transfer digital games to friends, don't remember how it works.
im not doing compsci cause i dont wanna end up a homeless vibe coder 😭, comp engineering is being more of a jack of all trades since u mess with hardware too.
it enough to make a grown man cry
Just as long as you don't choose no god damn "Industrial Economist engineer" yeahhh ok bro sybau and go back to the business major Coloring books
Hades 2 Hype is Real
nvm, probably doesn't matter much to me. I share hades with a friend that loves hades so much, we'll want our own copy anyway.
i still got time to think since i only just started my junior year in hs
Its trending on Twitter 
business majors when they have to write an 100 word essay (hardest assignment of their lives)
gamers are eating good recently, several amazing games came out all recently... hard to focus.
Maybe a Chiron fight?
A secret bss fight? Yes
Maybe dark Zag?
Charon Boss Fight? No
(Mel wouldnt steal shes a good girl)
I'm still scared of chiron in hades 1 with several of the weapons and builds, especially early matches.
The only other thing I’m thinking of is about that one achievement.
why would we fight chiron
Something something, Elysium.
IM SO HOPING ITS THAT
But its not likely.
Bro, Zag didn't steal, it was clearly there for whoever wanted to pick it up.
Tldr, do Electrical or mechanical
Same reason as Hecate maybe?
Asterius and Other Guy!
finally Hades is officially coming out
chiron not charon
How likely is a bingo here chat
Goof for em
Beat asterius into the ground!
Hades 2 i meant
Mel Axe its not getting a buff.

faith
Still.
The Mel Axe buff is only really necessary for higher fears. 32 is easy with Mel Axe
Alternate character agrees with full story?
Its a normal aspect
- 35 power its really good enouhg
dio buffs isnt happening
so i wasn't tweaking that rivals hecate hard
God I wish
idk i can see reckless or the money one getting touched
i'm betting on coat buffs
Zagreus and if course not.
Zagreus Mel interactions
yeah on the basic attack that thanatos does better, especially post power basekit
uhhh I've 3 most spots left to fill wait
No, the actual problem that you are missing with the “Mel Axe needs buffs”, is that “Mel Axe needs buffs”. Axe is too slow, so the bonus damage can’t often be felt.
whats hippo 😭
fat ass spitters in oceanus
I'm making more obscure tiles so it's actually hard
hate those hippos with a passion oh my god
the imploding guys?
BOULDY PLAYABLE CHARACTER
And again, that is for higher fears.
Dude I hyped so much the power went off
so much hp, so much armor, they waste my time exploding as the last enemy alive, they triple shot homing bullets
guy hades 2
aaaaaaaaaaa i hate hippos
Pls help I was in the middle of a drawing and I didn't save. I DIDN'T SAVE
i didn't want to go too hyperspecific with most
Like Mel Axe (and Axe as a whole) is great for the range that it’s intended at (0-32). But when 50+ is pushed, it’s not so easy to win with Mel Axe. And that’s because Axe is slow, and Mel Axe has the worst buff out of the Axes to make up for it.
almost as bad as the auto seeker pre-nerf
i just remembered we know what achievements will be in the game
So do we just start a new save? I’ve beaten heat 30ish
I mean even from a casual standpoint idk if Mel axe deserves to exist anymore when Nergal is right there 🤷
me waiting for the patch notes so sgg can let me down one last time with the mel skull wide grin interaction https://media.tenor.com/bSx28vEbLV0AAAAM/one-last-ride-vin-diesel.gif
two tiles left
no, it carries over
Why does she have 3 eyes again?
No but should we?
what does mel skull do with wide grin that needs to be changed?
Mel Axe exists so you can unlock the other Axes and get used to them 
Do you think the Mel coat person will have to change their name if it doesn't get fixed 😭
idk why would you
1.0 let’s goooooo
it removes your aspect bonus in most realistic gameplay scenarios :^)
Mel Coat has a worse buff tbh
if they actually nerf deep dissent it's over, i'll just stop playing
Mel Axe has really niche uses like me using only the normal attack
Hey, you can still win with Unseen Ire probably
oh the power thing, iirc some skulls do more damage than others because of it
mel skull says "for each skull you have fired already, gain power"
Wide grin says "fire all skulls at once"
4 skulls at once = 0 skulls fired already x 15 = 0 bonus power
pre nerf unseen ire will be remembered
tragic
I hate that so much
yall gimme some specific theories that are actually possible in 1.0
Imagine that Medea and Deep Dissent get unchanged. 
Why would I change it if it doesn't get fixed?
meeting the fates
That would be glorious /s
already have fates keepsake
https://media.tenor.com/zE5_70K6lhkAAAAe/soldier-kept-on-fighting.png
me and you marshal.
Ykw I respect the commitment, fight on soldier 💪
i have a single more tile left
Some sacrifice takes place to defeat Chronos / Typhon
Like… some character death, or the gods losing their actual powers for the incantation
that sounds very unlikely idk
Human arachne
Nyx's mirror is in Zag's room and will be crucial to defeating Chronos / Typhon
i don't want it to be too specific man idk 😭
already put in
something similar already in
nah i guarantee you at least the bugfix happens
stubborn defiance vs chronos 🔥
No, specific is “Zagreus dies because he sacrifices himself to defeat Chronos”
i'd love to see
I AM however worried that medea is going to get supay'd
or pan'd depending on your POV on supay
So bad weapons that can still clear 62?
ok gimme some general stuff then
Rule of Three exists for a reason. 
Do you have nyx family reunion
supay with no staggering is so weird
uhhh no
has there been a non TK clear on pan
Hades 2 is wild, I watch videos, and I still can't figure out what is going on. I think it'll feel like learning hades 1 all over again. I'm so looking forward to it.
Chiron representation somehow in 1.0
cause im not really counting trick knives as a pan clear tbh
Yes. Vytautas cleared it a week ago
already put in! 🔥
And also I know it’s not 62, but I did clear 56 without TK
Rip Supay you will be missed
Can we just have a list of what you put in so we know what isn't 😭
Oughhhh i need an artbook so bad for this game
why did they not add tk to morrigan, not like morrigan specials even do damage for it to be broken
Charon transportation scene is also smth i think might happen
Morrigan Specials are fake they dont exist
mel really did the goku warmup jumps
We need that one Goku meme now with Mel
Yeah, this one
And the ending part could be Darkside hex
I haven't touched early access in a while so I'm hoping my muscle memory will have eroded and I can get the experience of playing the full game from the beginning
I assume bc confusion of it counts as regular special or omega + the cooldown is supposed to appear like it limits to one active special
This just in, the Ѕeх Update is finally coming to hades on September 25th
One to see the underworld, one to see the heavens, and one to see destiny.
i was just going t ask
do you all think ashley barret will get to sing a song instead of scylla
I am praying for you @lost wing
0 dialogue zag damnn
God I'm gonna be so devastated if zag doesn't get any dialogue lmao
why is everyone talking about chiron? did i miss something?
Ashley voices roxy iirc so she'll be in one by proxy
Only aspect from H1 to not have a character present
everyone depicted in the arcana was a character in h1 or is a character in h2, everyone except chiron, who is on the centaur card
Because ||Heracles mentions Chiron in a dialogue piece, and how it was terrible to do such rigorous training||
plus he has an arcana doesn't he
aspect of arthur or something too
🙏 The day may come that I change my nick to Marshal (MelCoatΩATKSoGoated) 🙏
If only...
why is the oatk bugged
The day that coat omega attack is good... I can't even think of something funny to say
hmmm
i know, i meant as the lead
Petting Cerberus, Mel never realizing Hypnos is a jokester, Medea being secretly nice while Circe has a dark side, Hearty Appetite fixed, boon offering unlock easier, hidden aspect arcana card backs, etc.
Someone should make a bingo board that is just the opposite of Pizza’s.
pffft why 😂
Do we know what is going to reset and what is going to carry over from our early access saves?
Unexpected nerf they increase daybreaker cost on eos
Because BINGO! We need one.
Everything except void lens and z sand
Zagreus won't even be in the game, bet
does apollo lego create 2 daybreakers?
yw, I've been waiting for an SGG art book for a decade and I suggested it several times during H1 EA
Just chronos and typhon rewards convert to entropy
No it pulses twice
Very nice. Never managed to beta the surface so i might just save that for 1.0
Converted to WHAT
Cus remember, NOTHING EVER HAPPENS
The probably super ADHD/ASD community of SGG demand for a bingo on the bingo board Pizza!
prestige, not entropy
The most creatively enclined studio - doesnt release an artbook 😀
Ah i forgor
If the speed stuff and Exceptional Talent get fixed, the math is there to make it truly great vs Wardens & Guardians at the least. And if you aren't running wards vow, absolutely fine vs regular enemies too.
oh wow that's close
It literally do be like that and it hurts my soul, especially after we saw all the awesome Pyre concept art
I still gotta play pyre its the one sgg not on switch
Oh, of course, I just can't imagine them changing it at this point, seeing as we've been complaining for a year
Mandatory shout-out to fitgirl for introducing me to hades, ain't gonna lie I bought both right after
I mean ppl complained ab Heph on ea release and he only got fixed Patch 11
Gonna be honest though, I don’t think that Arachne will become a human, and I kind of don’t like the messaging of it.
Well, they clearly signaled they were trying to fix it in one of the last couple patches, both changing the base frames (supposed to be on all coats) and saying they fixed bugs with things not working with its omega attack. So I have hope that it remained their intent over the past ~2 months and they actually figured out where the problem was in that time.
yeah honestly I don't think it'll happen either but it just had to go on the board because it's a popular theory
Guaranteed, same happened with Sisyphus
JUST SAW THE NEWS!!!!!! I'M CRASHING OUT
Ur free now but haha I'm gonna stay here with bouldy
Yea arachne kinda likes her curse anyways
steamrip better, both hades games arent that heavy to need a fitgirl repack
Like that feels opposite of what SGG might say about Arachne, because the curse could be translated to any example of a disorder / disease, and ‘fixing’ is very unpopular from what I’ve seen in those communities.
SEPTEMBER 25TH AAAAHHHHHHH
anyone know why physical releases two months later?
Production time ig
I don’t know
because digital sales are more profitable
Crunch time
Have to design box art and put the game in a cart, make sure it runs ok etcetc
Also Nintendo Switch cartridges are proprietary so that slows down production timeline
life is so good right now oh my gosh silksong and hades 2 we are WINNING
Physical edition Hades 2... 
sorry guys i'm just really excited about this...
Nah the box art and PR is the easy stuff, adopting it to platforms is what takes time, and distribution too
WE ALL ARE RAGHHHHHHH
i wasn't in early access for that long but i'm still so happy i was because it made me feel so part of the community 😄
I'm curious if NS2 Hades will have mouse control support
I don't disagree that the sentiment is there but we'll see. Fingers crossed, anyway
I'm over here stroking my sister blades, I got boons on my sister blades I'm zippy af mane
Hoping that they fix him again for release lmao
Ok I feel like I may get executed for saying this but
They won’t they hate us
True, i cant see it being chosen over reg controls though
Security System is actually good and I'm considering putting it in at least A tier
Security system is good! That’s not controversial I don’t think
Security system is lowkey better than mint because it procs revenge boons and who is losing 75 armour in 7 seconds
And it benefits heavy metal
it's good; people are just (in some cases) rightly annoyed with the order of application of shields / temp armor and stuff like that
Only issue is the stacking, itd be cool if temp armour was a different colour
Security System is fine but Smithy Rush remains terrible, Molten Touch is uselessly weak, and the damage calculation for Heavy Metal is really weird
Heavy Metal being flat damage (not power) is such a disappointment
me
The nerf to Fortitude was also totally unwarranted
Did we or will we get any info of what we're getting in the 1.0 update?
Like will I get more things to spend prestige on?
i already gave all my extra reagents to the vendor cause the game said they no longer had a use
we know we'll get the post-Chronos/Typhon story content. no other news really
And the trailer doesn't show any new content, unless the aspects that they use are meant to imply changes to those, and also the turn speed on Lunar Ray might have been increased?
Holy WOW, though, that's one of the best-animated things I've seen in a loooong time, absolutely gorgeous trailer
IM SAYINGGG
I love how fierce Chronos looks and how huge and horryfying Typhon looks
The camerawork the lighting the effects AHHHHHH
are you guys planning on starting a new save or going straight from your original save when it comes out???
nah
The scene with the olympus aflame horns and mel and hecate AHHHHHHHHHH
Absolute CINEMEL ✋️
🤚
oh my gosh that trailer is literally so perfect i'm so obsessed with it
Ive watched it like 10 times
WHO made ts
Assuming its the same as the last 2
But they havent posted yet
I hope Mel saying "I'll do both" means we'll get to do an underworld-into-surface run or vice versa run in 1.0
I'm going to fresh file it I think. I may wait to see what the launch patch notes look like (and whether I'm incentivized to do shenanigans with the Arcana or incantations to improve RNG). But barring that, fresh file.
I want to see how the story stuff paces with the changes they made throughout EA since by the time they added stuff in I was at endgame.
i think i'll fresh file it as well i just want to experience everything again 😄
With the way the incantations for typhon and chronos are worded i think mel will use the power of both to imbue herself in the fight? Like a typhon version of mel v typhon
I like how Chronos hisses even though he's normally level-headed
also in my original save i said no to moros and nemesis because i don't like them as romance options as much as icarus and eris but this time i will say yes to all of them to see the dialogues
Like bro????
Since her eyes arent red during dark side but they are in the animation?
I doubt it, but would be funny. Would certainly make a fun mod if nothing else. Get so many boons.
Peepaw off his meds
"please stop praying for my grandpa he has escaped from the hospital and becoming too powerful" or whatever that one post said
Im thinking theyre typhon eyes
Also will we finally get dialogue when we use a Godsent Selene boon during Family Dispute?
It just means she’s bisexual
Ah I've used it with Aphrodite a few times and she's silent
i got one for apollo, it was soooo funny he was like "oh NOW you want my help???!!"
If you use it with Poseidon he has lines
i love apollo he is the loml
I'm pretty sure the idea of sexual orientation isn't even a concept for the Gods
She can go up or down ??? 🤨🤨🤨
No kidding!
in todays day and age physical isnt as proffitable, so they get focused less
I love Ares lines about it
He sounds almost proud but equally enraged
You’re right it actually means she’s a switch
They all have family disoute lines I'm pretty sure
Who doesn't . . . ?
so we finally got a release date
Like Trolls from Homestuck going "what the fuck is a homosexual? you have a word for that?? human love is weird."
Hephaestus
We’re not getting into Homestuck sexualities
Rip they were too focused on blast changes
oh you DON'T want to talk about quadrants?
