h2-discussion

[crude dragon]

Would she be traumatized by it, and then even more so when he treats it like nothing worse than a stubbed toe?

[broken glen]

ZAGREUS. RETURN TO SHADOW ZAGREUS.

Beowulf

[crude dragon]

Staying away with bow

[hybrid gulch]

You guys are comparing their foes in game but we don't actually know how strong Hades is compared to Chronos/Typhon and Mel gets help to "defeat" Typhon anyway (and doesn't actually defeat him, just knock him back down). Maybe I just have a soft spot for Zag* (whoops) or maybe I'm just feeling contrary but I think Zag has a chance. He's also older than Mel right? Do we know exactly how old Zag is? He may not have trained his whole life to defeat Chronos but let's not pretend he's weak

[humble urchin]

boonless beo isn’t that great though. boonless medea is still very bursty

[broken glen]

Moreso thinking about the shielding

Maybe chaos then

[orchid acorn]

the real answer here is twofold - one mel is quite literally made by both birth and through training to kill chronos}

Two - hades is still holding back vs zag in the game even in em4.

In a vacuum zag gets mogged by chronos 10/10 times, canonically unless we get player plot armor again. I wouldn't favor mel vs hades either, again assuming without player plot armor, but i could see her winning a few times.

it took the whole olympian gang to btfo chronos the first time

[broken glen]

Without boons both of the kids are cooked against hades

[orchid acorn]

saying zag would walk up and even remotely have a chance vs chronos is a joke

[orchid acorn]

depends how you take gameplay, cause there is both dialogue and the possibility to do it boonless ingame currently

which arguably makes it "canon"

[broken glen]

I’d consider that like a 80:20 win rate (favoring hades)

Without boons

[orchid acorn]

mel only has the chance cause she got birthright bs to help resist chronos

without that latent gene she gonna be hitting the zag dash animation in the bubble

[crude dragon]

Zagreus should've learned the Tiger Drop, it negates all damage

[hybrid gulch]

Well I don't want to dig myself into too deep of an assumption pit 😄 . I just like Zag and I think people here are underselling him because they're stuck on Mel being born/raised to fight Chronos. Isn't Mel's biggest advantage there that he can't use his timey-wimey stuff on her, so she can actually fight? We can't really compare the two based on Chronos - Zag wouldn't have a chance because he doesn't have the same plot armor.

But this hypothetical fight isn't between Zag and Chronos, it's between Zag and Mel, and as far as I know she doesn't have special protection against him.

What would be really awesome is if we could watch two top tier players, controlling one of them each, give it their all in a fight

(obviously not going to happen but it would be fun to watch)

[solemn fractal]

tbf neither did zag then

[solemn fractal]

i do think that zag relies a lot on his speed to get things done and mel has a surefire way of restricting him via cast

and the omega moves just add so much to her arsenal

[broken glen]

Overall I’d say it’s like 60:40 favoring Mel

[solemn fractal]

of course if it comes down to weapons it may be a diff story

[broken glen]

She has a bit of an edge but it’s not awful

[solemn fractal]

70 Mel - 30 Zag tbh

[hybrid gulch]

True enough! She'd have to catch him in it though. I mean I'm not saying I think Zag is the obvious winner. I just don't think Mel would roll over him so easily. It's not like he's just going to stand there

[solemn fractal]

yeah, plus shield and bow would be super good at keeping mel at bay too

[thorny adder]

Y’all are forgetting about the gun…

[solemn fractal]

and zag is really genuinely clever im sure he could figure out a way to catch mel off-guard

[solemn fractal]

oh damn how'd i forget about good ol rail

[broken glen]

Mel knows how to handle fighting the rail. She’s fought Eris

[solemn fractal]

ngl it's so funny that Rivals Eris gets Lucifer

[hybrid gulch]

I also think we don't know Zag's true strength and it's a mistake to try and base it off the bosses he fought. We already know Hades wasn't giving it his all, but beyond that - what exactly is Zag's baseline strength? I think he has physical advantages that aren't made clear by just looking at their respective games

[broken glen]

And she thinks it’s her real aspect 💀

[hybrid gulch]

Depends on who is controlling Mel 🤣 (I may have struggled with Eris for a while before I finally got it down)

Proud to say that I mostly don't struggle with her anymore

[solemn fractal]

yeah I think Achilles himself mentions that Zag is just starting to grasp his powers, and a fully unbooned Zag can defeat EM Hades, which is pretty insane

[solemn fractal]

Eris is literal Satanspawn confirmed?

[hybrid gulch]

FINALLY people starting to maybe come around a bit on Zag in this pretend fight we'll probably never see 😄

[broken glen]

Hey I like Eris

She just likes the glow bombs

[hybrid gulch]

If you don't like Eris at her worst, you don't deserve her at her...well, she's pretty much always the worst, but I like her anyway

[solemn fractal]

in the most loving way i could refer to eris (like a particularly ugly puppy) she is an endearing creature from hell

[broken glen]

||Off topic, but Eris felt like an allegory for neurodivergence/LGBTQ, so I love her. She doesn’t need to be “fixed”, because there’s nothing wrong with her.||

She gets way less aggressive once Mel accepts her for who she is

[hybrid gulch]

Yeah I actually really like that she is consistent in that regard. She is who she is and she's not going to change, and she's very self aware

[solemn fractal]

oh abs, i do really like the fact that Eris doesn't completely change, but allows herself to open up a bit more to people that genuinely want her as her

[fathom lake]

Except that shes very annoying

[hybrid gulch]

Well she's still Strife Incarnate, I mean jeez what can you do

[fathom lake]

Yea

[solemn fractal]

she is cringe but she is free

[fathom lake]

yeah!

[solemn fractal]

i do hope that she does get a position post-chronos that she is able to enjoy ngl

[hybrid gulch]

I think her "cringe" side is mostly acting out because people try to change her. In dialogues where she feels more liberated and understood, she's not nearly as annoying

[buoyant matrix]

you can never be based unless you accept the cringe within you

[hybrid gulch]

We Are Cringe

[polar abyss]

Perhaps the ones who call themselves based are the most cringe

[solemn fractal]

watch your tone buddy, i am a based sigma male and won't be talked down by the likes of you buddy ol buddy ol buddy ol pal ol schmeckins ol munchkin ol buddy

[hybrid gulch]

SCHMECKINS?!

[solemn fractal]

pardon i had a stroke

[hybrid gulch]

Had? What did you do with it?

wakka wakka

[broken glen]

People say that I’m annoying all the time. I can’t control the tone of my voice sometimes, I stutter a lot, I go on for too long… but it’s just how I talk! I can’t help it!

[solemn fractal]

i silked it, i silked it real good fozzy

how'd i spell fozzie wrong i suck

[polar abyss]

Oh no…

Folks, I have PTSD: Post-Traumatic Skong Disorder. I get flashbacks to years prior and it hurts /s

[solemn fractal]

im sorry for triggering ur trauma

[polar abyss]

It’s okay

[hybrid gulch]

there's only one remedy for that

[polar abyss]

Returning to shadow?

Spending time with the harem of Mel?

What would it be?

[buoyant matrix]

face your fears

play skong

[hybrid gulch]

more Skong of course

[broken glen]

You should return to shadow, now!

[hybrid gulch]

YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR

[solemn fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-lowtiergod-ltgstare-lowtiergod-stare-gif-10285104637921288731

how eris looks when i tell her to clean up after herself

[hybrid gulch]

lol more like she just laughs and throws down another wrapper

[solemn fractal]

she throws da burger king wrapper

[polar abyss]

I am curious though what the message shall be for each of these characters. Like yeah, the lovers’s bonds are “fully complete”, but surely that’s not the end of new content for them, right?

[hybrid gulch]

With no new encounters coming (allegedly), I would imagine 1.0 adds quite a bit of story across the board

[raven perch]

I sure hope not because that would be incredibly bad

[orchid acorn]

compare it to the similar quest hades 1 had for ares of killing enemies, there was no more content afaik

[raven perch]

Yeah but hypnos had 2 quests 🥺

We can do it I believe

Even if it’s something as small as “get a letter from so-and-so” as long as it properly explores the actual characterization and isn’t just a copout for romance im happy

[crude dragon]

I'd be skonged out of my mind rn, but I'm waiting until after I finish the first game to skong

[hybrid gulch]

Same. Bought HK ages ago, played but never finished. Trying to actually finish it now. I liked it then so don't recall what distracted me

[crude dragon]

Was it Deepnest

[hybrid gulch]

no I mean I got distracted by other games and stopped playing HK, haha

[hollow lily]

just found en edgecase of an edge case

if ur adapter settings are turned off then on mid game and you get connected to the internet again the game freezes completly until you hit a button again

[hollow lily]

k unsure if i understood it correctly or not. but im happy that the bond between melinoe and nemesis turned out to be them caring and looking out for each other.

i thought it was gonna be a haha now ur my love intrest type thing like the usual

at least that the way i interpreted it

[hollow lily]

https://tenor.com/view/waxwitch-melinoe-melinoe-hades-melinoe-hades-2-hades-2-gif-16453679598156053609

[karmic wadi]

Hello, a question abou Path of Stars Godsent. Does my choice of boons effect which olympian do I have in PoS? Is it the first I pick, I is one of mine I have? Or is it just pure rng? Thank you. 🙂

[slim pike]

There's 9 gods and 9 hexes

Each hex pairs with one olympian only

You need any boon or the keepsake of a god to make the godsent upgrade appear in its matching hex

@karmic wadi

[karmic wadi]

I see. So it is one of my set of boons in the run. I will take a keepsake of the missing ones to higher a chance. Thanks

[slim pike]

I'm not sure what you mean by this

Maybe an example:

[elfin forge]

umm excuse me??

[karmic wadi]

Well. I’m missing Ares Godsent for the prophecy. So I take his keepsake, get his boons, higher chance to appear Ares godsent in Path. 🙂 all clear? 🙂

[slim pike]

Oh. That's unique to the coat aspect of selene

That gives you skyfall, the paired hex for ares

[sleek oar]

Hit w the excuse me 4 days later 😭

[slim pike]

There is literally no other way to get Lance of Ares than by taking aspect of selene on the black coat

[elfin heron]

I'm responding super late, but I mean... those were completely optional post game content and I'm pretty sure you could still 120% (or whatever the number is) without them

[slim pike]

Yeah. But it still left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth to have a final ending denied by obnoxious false difficulty

[elfin heron]

I will say though I still havent beat p4 or p5 to this day LOL too hard

[karmic wadi]

Realy? Wow. Hard to find out. So I take black coat, first ares keepsake then selene?

Oh aspect. I see. And ares keepsake

[slim pike]

Yes, that will guarentee it

[karmic wadi]

Then I am missing Hera and Demeter. Any tricky things on these?

[slim pike]

Night bloom and phase shift, respectively

[stray wyvern]

I... I think I just had phase 2 chronos phase himself by hitting hitched hourglasses with his AoEs? He just suddenly died and went to phase 3 😶

Like, I was just running around dodging and suddenly it was phase 3 time

[silent vale]

phase 3?

I thought there were only 2

[fathom lake]

oooooooff

Embarrasing,,,,,,

This is the spoiler Channel YOu do know that right lmfao

[slim pike]

Usually...

[silent vale]

Is there more because I was just gonna stop playing until the full game was out

[sleek oar]

Ye you got vow of rivals stuff

[hollow lily]

they should add a talos defeat voiceline where meli calls talos a clanker

[silent vale]

Was that the chaos thing or the scroll thin

[sleek oar]

Vows are on the testament, where you go to add fear

Vow of rivals is what activates this game’s extreme measures, if u played hades1

[silent vale]

I did add things to that but I don't think any of the bosses were different

[hybrid gulch]

Only rivals changes the boss fights

well, mechanics anyway

[sleek oar]

I think theres an incantation you have to do before you unlock the thing

[hybrid gulch]

oh ya it's not part of the fear interface immediately

[sleek oar]

And then it unlocks with levels

[silent vale]

I'll have to do it later then, thank you for telling me

[hollow lily]

nvm, meli deserves a slur of her own for this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1252944071459209280/1413275872076632074/image.png?ex=68bb5739&is=68ba05b9&hm=3d83d6eb8a55206fa922e6fe19207c3628e0a66c1e12bd7b90fb3cb374ffb587&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1022&height=575

[hybrid gulch]

hence an earlier discussion about Mel's view of mortals, haha

[crude dragon]

That's the Extreme Measures thing

[crude dragon]

No, you just need a specific dialogue from Hecate

Either post-fight or in camp

The incantations are to unlock more levels

[silent vale]

Is it the thing that adds the rock and a hard place song?

[sleek oar]

Ye

[crude dragon]

Rivals Sirens does give you the new song, yes

[hollow lily]

can someone explain to me why did i draw 5 arcana cards after eris and then 3 after prometheus? i used circes pig only once and her boon is with me rn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1252944071459209280/1413278637775388743/image.png?ex=68bb59cc&is=68ba084c&hm=08b7531a9f5a5561da2cc5bb46c88eb76e451cb735e5b79cbcd829df02087150&

[crude dragon]

Did you hit the high roll and draw Judgement from Circe?

[silent vale]

alr ty

[hollow lily]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that explains it

yeahhh no wonder i have all 25 arcana cards active rn

[slim pike]

Highrolled

[hollow lily]

ok how many new mini bosses did they add to the summit???

i just met 2 new ones ive never seen before

[fathom lake]

Eye and Twins

[hollow lily]

Ye those two

Amazing how I managed to tank them

[slim pike]

There's a new oceanus miniboss too

And VERY rare ephyra miniboss

[humble urchin]

assuming it’s the boar, is it really that rare?

or is there a different ephyra miniboss?

[merry whale]

aren't ephyra and thessaly the only two regions where the game will just sometimes not throw a miniboss at u

boar is new in unseen iirc

actually fightable unlike champion

i think it's just cuz ephyra minibosses only show up sometimes

[humble urchin]

wait who’s the other ephyra miniboss? i don’t recall it

[merry whale]

satyr champion, dude on mt olympus turned into boss

[humble urchin]

heh, i must’ve gotten him so little i forgot of his existence

while we’re on the topic, are the oceanus minibosses equal chance to show up? i feel like i get Tony and the serpent much more than the octopus

[merry whale]

yea i actively avoid it cuz it's a legitimately unfair fight lmao

unreactable and will create three homing point blank projectiles

melee ppl have it tough they should move power surge into heartthrobs and buff heartthrobs

[merry whale]

it should be equal ye, prob just unlucky

[humble urchin]

i am said melee people

my favourite aspects are than and medea

moros growing on me honestly though

[merry whale]

melinoe melee flames is very fun

[humble urchin]

mel flames kinda feel lackluster to me unless i do fine line ocean swell spam

but that might be just because i’m not that good at torches overall

[merry whale]

ye fine line i think is supposed to be the way to play mel flames

ironically at high fear suddenly trying to manage +15 magick spam sucks ass so i don't play that way

[humble urchin]

i mean yeah heavy magick builds are very hard to make viable at high fear, you’d know that best especially with mel flames lmao

or was that East? I forgot

[merry whale]

prob both of us i imagine

east plays attack spam, i play special spam

i hate how mel flame attacks feel

i think east dislikes mel flame specials

[humble urchin]

my movement with flames isn’t great so i’m more attack spam, special spam requires good positioning

since flames’ biggest strength is probably the fact that you can be constantly moving, would i be wrong?

[merry whale]

yea using specials (for the most part) grants u the greatest movement flexibility

for like small enemies like wailers u can't point blank so u have to attack, which sucks when attack decides to lock onto another enemy while the approaching wailer approaches

[humble urchin]

KbM diff smh

[merry whale]

basically stagger-based enemies are a nightmare to deal with on torches

tru,

[humble urchin]

i’m usually a console gamer but i got H1 gifted on steam and naturally played it with kbm

so just stuck it out since then lol

[merry whale]

real

[humble urchin]

thinking about it, is the auto locking on thing one of the reasons you hate flames’ attack?

[merry whale]

one of many ye

[humble urchin]

ou what else is it that you don’t like?

[merry whale]

no piercing on regular attack (it does on o-attack but that's one every 3 or 4)

[arctic fog]

Can you rec a random, fun torch build that’s not fine line spam or Hera-Zeus shred

I want to do something new

[merry whale]

the movement's fine i think they expect u to use o-spec and attack at the same time, the problem is that it's literally moros playstyle but worse

[polar abyss]

Nexus Rush Supay?

[humble urchin]

true, i definitely noticed that

[merry whale]

blitz spec scorch cast, or blitz atk wounds spec come to mind

[humble urchin]

you’d want blitz too so wouldn’t that fall under hera zeus shred too?

[arctic fog]

Heinous affront always goes crazy 🥹❤️

[polar abyss]

True. But like… Nexus Rush.

It’s like the one build that uses it well

[merry whale]

wounds is really good at base until u put wards on, otherwise it feeds into heinous & grievous

[humble urchin]

always love it when the blow is G

[arctic fog]

I don’t play with wards

Easily my least favorite fear/heat setting

[merry whale]

wards is in a weird state where it completely guts single hit damage (not meta) while letting multi hit damage thru (already meta)

[arctic fog]

#bufftheaxeagain

I prefer slow weapons for the most part

[humble urchin]

wards is either top 3 freest fears or literal build killer depending on your aspect lol

[arctic fog]

And high, slow ticking damage

[merry whale]

ye slow weapons r fun i just cannot imagine trying to get them thru high fear lmao

[arctic fog]

Though scorch is obviously fun because it’s so busted

I do wish I struggled less with my favorite weapon

I started using the axe less at high fear bc I just couldn’t get used to it

I know nergal’s meta but its also my least favorite axe 🤕

[polar abyss]

I know that I have already said it in feedback, but I think that all the non-Nergal needs is some form of defense. Like having a defensive but weak attack to trigger wards would be perfect

[humble urchin]

i assume the alternate move set is what you’re not a fan of?

[polar abyss]

Only problem is they already did have a block, then gave that to Coat

[arctic fog]

P much, I just spin2win on it but I’d rather do that with aspect of Thanatos even though aspect of Thanatos is torturous to use

Like at least Than was built for that, I just feel like I’m cheesing on nergal bc the moveset feels too sluggish otherwise

[polar abyss]

Maybe the speed of Regular Special should be increased? Would that help Axes enough?

[humble urchin]

i love the concept of it but i do agree that it does feel sluggish/clunky

[arctic fog]

I feel like they should increase the AOE of the regular special a hair

[humble urchin]

like yes it’s supposed to be slow hitting but big damage, but something feels off about it a bit

[merry whale]

thanatos gutting the aspect after getting hit is the reason i don't want to play it lol

[arctic fog]

Makes it a piece of work on high fear

[humble urchin]

once again just don’t get hit comes to play

[arctic fog]

So hammer dependent

[merry whale]

it's pretty cool to just not get hit, kinda sucks when getting hit has more of an impact on the aspect that revolves around it

[arctic fog]

I stand by my idea that armor should protect your mortality status

It’s such a good idea idc idc

[merry whale]

tru

[arctic fog]

Most people (me) are too unskilled to make Thanatos work

It’s literally a perfect compromise—its not like mortality is that busted

And I lose armor so fast anyway

[polar abyss]

What, that Thanatos instead gets a mini Trusty Shield as its bonus?

[merry whale]

silken sash finally meta

it's still diabolical that they buffed ghost onion to work on scars when silken sash is right there in need of a buff

[polar abyss]

Like… “2/4/6/8/10/16 Armor upon entering a Location”?

**for Thanatos

[arctic fog]

Just that losing armor doesn’t count as taking a hit for mortality purposes—like maybe take a padded Arachne gown, grab heph as your 4th god

[polar abyss]

Oh…

[arctic fog]

The attack speed buff should stay ofc

[polar abyss]

Ok, really dumb idea. What if Axes gained +1 HP per kill?

**restored

[merry whale]

oceanus

[arctic fog]

That would be too cracked probably

[merry whale]

also nergal already heals,,

[polar abyss]

Well the other idea was armor per kill, which is so much worse / broken

[arctic fog]

It’s not like we’re being forced to pick one of them lol

They’d both be broken

[polar abyss]

I’m just thinking; Nergal is considered a fine weapon at high fear, because the punishment is less severe.

And also to see if some wacky idea is legitimate or not

[arctic fog]

Feels like the axe’s biggest issue is poor wards clearance and kind of… difficult gimmicks, nergal aside bc cracked and Charon aside bc not a real axe weapon

[humble urchin]

armor per kill would be very balanced, John Supergiant pls listen!!

||i just want my favourite aspect to be gigabroken||

[polar abyss]

Then some fast but weak attack could solve it, right?

[arctic fog]

Yeah and I feel like they should buff the aoe of the regular special

It does that multihit spinning thing but its so useless

Might as well allow it to hit more than one enemy at a time?

[merry whale]

armor per kill actually sounds fun tbh

like prob +1 per kill, then it caps based on aspect lvl

[arctic fog]

Get +2 armor per kill, to a maximum of 2/4/6/8/10 per encounter?

[polar abyss]

Or it could be a hard limit that could be reached within an encounter.

[arctic fog]

Ooh same brain

[humble urchin]

tbh even 1 would be crazy strong because it negates a ton of overkill damage

[merry whale]

there's already ares +hp per hit i think effectively infinite armor is fine

and ofc it wouldn't work on bosses since nothing much to kill

[polar abyss]

The actual issue would be if it’s okay that it’s yet another bypass to Scars 3

[arctic fog]

Armor prevents overflow damage as six pointed out

[merry whale]

see it's not hp but armor

[arctic fog]

Making it kind of op

[polar abyss]

It’s a bypass in a different sense.

Actually it’s better than just +1 HP.

[arctic fog]

Also an intentional scars bypass in the form of armor is actually a good idea and should be utilized by the game more often

[polar abyss]

And at that point we’re asking for Nergal to be Base Axe

[arctic fog]

Instead of just having random exceptions to the rule

[merry whale]

silken sash buff i beg

[arctic fog]

Silken sash my beloved

[polar abyss]

John Supergiant can all axes just be Nergal base kit?

**with their gimmicks of course

[arctic fog]

Axe should be the best weapon by such a large margin that we have to relinquish it to Thanatos by the end of the game for the sake of balance

20 beautiful runs and then we kiss it goodbye forever

#balance

[merry whale]

circe to thanatos pipeline

[turbid walrus]

Questione: when you dash towards an enemy/schelemeus, if you stop right in front of them, they get a little green splash effect in front of them, anyone know what that means?

[livid field]

Pissed themselves

[arctic fog]

Does it do this if you dash or sprint right past them?

[raven perch]

This is part of the Arcana, I think the swift runner? Anyway it means you can’t get hurt by them

[urban topaz]

Hi Greg

Drop da date

[merry whale]

gregory do you see that small vent on the floor

[autumn pollen]

Is there anything else you can do after defeating|| chronos||? Or is that in the 1.0 release?

[humble urchin]

well ofcourse you have the surface if you haven’t gotten to the final boss yet

[autumn pollen]

Yea I still have that to do but I think in hades 1 (I never finished it) you could beat the final boss multiple times for the “true” ending. Is that the same for hades 2? And is it implemented yet or will it be coming out with the 1.0 release

[hasty ocean]

No endings until 1.0

[humble urchin]

that in specific will be coming with 1.0

[autumn pollen]

ok sweet thank you!

[little mason]

yo i just got hades 2 1.0

[turbid walrus]

Ohhhh yeah makes sense 👍 thnx

[torpid sky]

when you could be playing Silksong instead???

[arctic fog]

What.

I.. I’ll spread the word…

[little mason]

im still waitin for it to release

is it still a meme

[arctic fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1413333929385267353/1413334222399082636/IMG_9855.jpg?ex=68bb8d91&is=68ba3c11&hm=ca308a1ca7bcf2b266565e80b2b93e6fc2156b8bc43b01a4ef9f0328bf248d4a&

Me when silksong releases for the 247th time this year

[torpid sky]

I literally am playing it

[arctic fog]

I assumed nergul destroyer was joking bc how could anyone not know silksong released today

It crashed steam did it not

[torpid sky]

Yes it did

[arctic fog]

Awesome

[little mason]

i doubt such a small indie game studio game could crash steam

[arctic fog]

Sisyphus rock was me waking up checking for silksong news every day to no avail until 2 weeks ago

[little mason]

wait but it actually released

[arctic fog]

[little mason]

i never saw it on my stream games

[broken glen]

[arctic fog]

You gotta go around saying this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1413333929385267353/1413334222399082636/IMG_9855.jpg?ex=68bb8d91&is=68ba3c11&hm=ca308a1ca7bcf2b266565e80b2b93e6fc2156b8bc43b01a4ef9f0328bf248d4a&

I’m obsessed with this stupid meme ugh

[broken glen]

I’m going to spread the word…

[arctic fog]

What.

I-….

[little mason]

IS THIS FOR REAL..?

[broken glen]

….

[arctic fog]

[little mason]

NO CAP?

ALL FAX?

NO PRINTER?

[arctic fog]

Go and spread the word

You’ll need a printer for that tho

Put up posters in ye old town square

Literally in this channel waffling bc I can’t play skong yet 🥀

[lament surge]

Hello lads, when you guys think the full game will be released?

[arctic fog]

Could be any time from now to like

[little mason]

maybe now?

[arctic fog]

October? Probably not later than that

[broken glen]

Tomorrow for sure!

[lament surge]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-glasses-source-gif-25910308

[little mason]

https://tenor.com/view/sanders-colonel-sanders-dark-helmet-when-will-then-be-now-how-soon-gif-25062380

[broken glen]

It came to me in a dream

[little mason]

https://tenor.com/view/combing-the-desert-space-balls-found-anything-nothing-yet-s-ir-literal-jokes-gif-10465625

[lost wing]

https://tenor.com/view/search-your-feelings-you-know-gif-5340126

[lament surge]

Makes sense.

[broken glen]

COMB THE DESERT

(I AM AN IDIOT)

[crude dragon]

We ain't found [CENSORED]

[broken glen]

I love that movie

Shame kids these days will probably never see it

[mossy shuttle]

Hey Greg, just wanted to let you know that it’s ok to delay 1.0 for another month, I’m stuck with silksong rn 👌

[oak ivy]

same

[arctic fog]

Greg if you’re listening please don’t do that to me

[oak ivy]

I play it so slowly I feel like it'll take me a couple of weeks at least to finish it 😔

[oak ivy]

why dont you just play silksong too?

i feel like everyone who likes Hades 2 would most certainly like Silksong

[arctic fog]

I’m depressed and silksong will make me more depressed while hades 2 eases the pain

[oak ivy]

💔

[arctic fog]

I adored hollow knight

I want to play silksong when I’m happy

[oak ivy]

huh....

i suppose i understand 😔

didn't expect such an honest response haha

[charred merlin]

1.0 wen

[arctic fog]

The repetitive nature of hades gameplay gives me peace idk

I just want the story now

[oak ivy]

anywhere between next week and late October or something

[oak ivy]

that's why I cant play Hades 2 anymore.. ive tried every weapon already and done the 32 fears 😔

I want the story!!!!

so silksong is helping me out in these trying times

[arctic fog]

I’m glad silksong is out so I can play it when I’m ready

[oak ivy]

if you wait another 3 years maybe a dlc will be out!

[arctic fog]

But I also need hades 2 NYOW

[arctic fog]

They will announce DLC in 3 days and we will receive it in 3 decades

[oak ivy]

why are you not too depressed to play hades 2's story though?

like what's the difference there?

[arctic fog]

I’m just already invested and the gameplay loop is satisfying with no exploration or new content

Barrier to entry is much lower than for silksong

[oak ivy]

Ah I see..

yeah that's understandable

[arctic fog]

One must imagine Sisyphus happy after all

[oak ivy]

One must imagine Hornet shaw'ing after all too 😔

[covert valve]

Mood

[merry whale]

one must imagine sisyphus

[cinder garnet]

Hello Hades 2

[hearty idol]

yesterday

[hollow lily]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-r32-redbull-skyline-gif-12196573578316062271

[limpid oar]

Hello exivite

[sleek oar]

Hello 🪭

Im sooo funny

[rocky agate]

I don’t get it

[covert badge]

what’s so scary about a boon/hammer being OP anyway?? like yeah, this one’s good but, and that one’s also good but

it turns into this never-ending pile of asterisks and nitpicky footnotes. they scrub the edges so much it just scrubs the fun right out of the game

[limpid oar]

OP boons only hit build variety which is okay, OP hammers can take away enjoyment of playing certain weapon aspects or even whole weapons when it's reliant on the hammer to perform well

For example I think non-Morrigan blades would benefit immensely if trick knives got nuked from existence and the weapon got buffed/reworked to compensate

[buoyant matrix]

make tk part of basekit with 2 knives instead of three

then make a hammer that increases it to three again 🤑

[orchid acorn]

3rd(4th?) hammer made basekit on blades lfggggggg

[buoyant matrix]

i think it would've actually been better if the community didn't do 62 fear with the base blade aspects

cause now they have less incentive to buff them 😂

[polar abyss]

Oops.

Clearly what we need to do is have every single 62 clear thereafter have Artemis, just to make sure Artemis chances aren’t increased. /s

[polar abyss]

Also, Unexplainedbacn’s Artemis clear did have TK.

[buoyant matrix]

yes but it did clear, idk how sgg takes these stuff into account for balance changing

[polar abyss]

Oh

[buoyant matrix]

they may leave it at that especially since we're so close to 1.0

[polar abyss]

I feel like the Pan clear though should be in favor.

Wasn’t that Antler Erebus and Strength?

[buoyant matrix]

the pan 62 isn't on crossroads

[polar abyss]

I do still feel like that these 62 runs are an exception to the standard of the weapon.

[fading knoll]

idk

at low fear literally every aspect in the games fs stuff up
so how much do they really care about blades becoming poo at higher fears

[polar abyss]

That too. If we consider “High Fear players” to be a small percentage of the player base, then I don’t know if these 62s or no 62s matter at all.

[buoyant matrix]

it's the same issue with axe

they're all so good till the 50 range

then mel and than are very hard to do 62 with

charon needs highrolls

[gentle hearth]

any news on that 1.0 ?

[polar abyss]

What are the high rolls? Lucid Gain + Special Boon + Giga Cleaver in Erebus?

[lone wing]

any tips on beating chronos? ;D

first time going to him

[polar abyss]

You’ve never fought him before?

[buoyant matrix]

with some boosts to ocast

[lone wing]

nope this is the first time im going to fight him

[buoyant matrix]

dash behind him for every attack

[polar abyss]

Ok, then I guess you don’t care about spoilers. Do note that there will be instakills. So go to the safe zone quickly.

[polar abyss]

4 boon Erebus + Giga Cleaver just to clear Erebus?

[buoyant matrix]

no giga and lucid are enough to clear erebus

i meant for the whole run

[polar abyss]

Oh

Even with Wards and Hordes it’s enough?

[buoyant matrix]

hecate and sirens will be ASS to play against

[dusk fjord]

Unfortunately.

[buoyant matrix]

you underestimate axe ospecial, it's an intercontinental ballistic missile

[lone wing]

he beat me , got him down to a quarter of hp RIP

[dusk fjord]

Mostly, for that is why I go for Surface runs.

[buoyant matrix]

gg you'll get him next try 👍

also @polar abyss another issue is due to onion you have to take hecuba for those first erebus rooms

[polar abyss]

Oh wait, yeah. Giga Cleaver OSpecial does fully clear Wards

[buoyant matrix]

the ospecial circles have some overlap with each other so if the enemy is just in the correct spot they'll get hit 4 times

most unarmored enemies die instantly

[lone wing]

tbh i wasn't expecting to get him that low the first try ;D

[polar abyss]

I am thinking that Racing Thoughts could also be very strong for a high roll

[verbal rampart]

Avoid staying in front of him, he is the most dangerous there.

[buoyant matrix]

you can watch daiyu's 62 fear surface run just to see how RIDICULOUS charon becomes when you get everything you need

[polar abyss]

My current best on Charon is 52. It’s not 62, but maybe I could go higher.

[buoyant matrix]

you definitely can

59 that is 62 without onion should be good

though you need serious practice for hecate and sirens

[lone wing]

yeah i kept staying behind him but those balls got me

[verbal rampart]

I hate his move when he tries to suck you with his scythe, or when he just launches it and it makes circles.

[buoyant matrix]

the suck move is free damage because you can just go behind him
scythe throw always spins clockwise (because he's time haha get it 😂) so you can get very consistent at dodging it

[supple nymph]

CHARONNNNN

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-squid-game-2-cheers-happy-excited-gif-13406404385856133045

BEST WEAPON OAT MENTIONED

[verbal rampart]

I didn't know about the clockwise spin! Thanks!

[buoyant matrix]

yeah we were discussing charon UW 62 potential

[supple nymph]

id rather do 59 cause onion sucks

in my 40f no-rivals and 50f r4 runs i didnt take onion cause its horrible

[buoyant matrix]

yeah it forces you to take hecuba

[supple nymph]

atleast with no onion you can get lucid gain room 1 and take something like gale

[polar abyss]

Or Cat

[limpid oar]

With no onion you can take anything really

On Charon

[dusky mountain]

where is Chiron in H2

supergiant pls

[supple nymph]

i take lucid gain then his special

or special then gain

cast would be good too but with denial its not realistic

so its gain - spec - supernova/prom flare - hopefully legendary

[dusky mountain]

do the charon special procs that cats Omega cast also depend on your cast damage?

like does it matter which cast i have for charon

[supple nymph]

if u meant cast buffs, then yes, they work on charon

[polar abyss]

That OCast is essentially treated as an OCast immediately going off

Stuff like Geyser Spout do trigger

[dusky mountain]

i mean does it matter if i have hera cast or zeus cast

[supple nymph]

they arent optimal on charon

[dusky mountain]

i know the Ocast boons increase dmg

[supple nymph]

i suppose hera is okayish when u have multiple enemies

[polar abyss]

Hera isn’t that bad, but I don’t think it’s the strongest

It’s a cast that does have an instant trigger effect

[dusky mountain]

so it DOES matter which cast you have

[supple nymph]

yes

[dusky mountain]

whats the best

[buoyant matrix]

poseidon

[dusky mountain]

poseidon?

[polar abyss]

Solar and Tidal Ring are probably the two best

[lone wing]

yeah the one with the circles took most of my health

[supple nymph]

you usually take poseidon, apollo, or in rare cases ares

[dusky mountain]

Ares? cse of the other cast boons of ares?

[supple nymph]

apollo cast has more damage but on high fear you cant take that many apollo cores

[polar abyss]

Also Blinding Rush exists, so the Daze effect isn’t as good

[supple nymph]

the sword ring puts you in hostile environment but so does meat grinder so its not worth it

[dusky mountain]

And does your Special Matter in charon or is your damage majorly from Cast?

[verbal rampart]

That's how he usually beats me. I'm around my 50th and only beat him twice.

[polar abyss]

Also Yes

I’d say Hera and Apollo are best.

Hera because it gives you a curse for Origination, and Apollo because it’s the second best percentage and makes the damage areas larger.

[supple nymph]

as dtb said, hera or apollo. apollo is the usual choice due to the many boons that charon benefits from apollo

[buoyant matrix]

damage mostly from special so it matters yes

[dusky mountain]

Why are you Here btw and Not skonging

[supple nymph]

apollo is nice if you want to get the legendary for whatever reason (not realistic in high fear)

[polar abyss]

I know that. I was just stating Apollo also because I assume they aren’t doing Denial and Debt

[dusky mountain]

I was gonna ask you Guys For your fav aspects but your names give it awa

[supple nymph]

wasnt trying to correct you, just stated it 😅

[buoyant matrix]

exam tomorrow

studying all the material for like the 3rd-ish time

[dusky mountain]

I havent Had an exam in 14 years

[buoyant matrix]

BIG gaming night tomorrow

[dusky mountain]

I dont miss em

[polar abyss]

Yeah. Genuinely, I think that Circe is the second best aspect in the game for High Fear (behind Medea).

[supple nymph]

school starts on monday for me 💔

it will be hell for another 9 months

[dusky mountain]

I defo wanna Play more circe, i enjoyed the clear i got with it

[buoyant matrix]

circe is the best for 62 because medea needs actual practice

high fear medea is actually very hard if you give it a try

[supple nymph]

i still cant play medea good enough

[polar abyss]

True. Its peak though is lower than Medea

[dusky mountain]

Theres No way this Medea makes to 1.0 tho right

[supple nymph]

who thought spamming lmb rmb was gonna be so hard

[buoyant matrix]

there is a way because reddit considers it to be one of the worst aspects

[polar abyss]

The Cast boost percentage bug for sure should be fixed.

[buoyant matrix]

it has a very low pick rate among the casual and low skill playerbase

[supple nymph]

even without it its still the best lol

[dusky mountain]

But muh storm ring

Whats the top 3 aspects in your opinion outside of medea

Charon, Circe, Supay?

[buoyant matrix]

people saw foolish use the storm ring bug and think he managed to win the run solely because of that

[supple nymph]

morrigan circe and charon imo

[buoyant matrix]

he already had plenty of runs make it to chronos without it

[polar abyss]

Not those two.

[dusky mountain]

I tried morrigan a lot and i dont get warm with it

[supple nymph]

anubis might be better than charon but i cant play it if my life depended on it

[dusky mountain]

Oh yeah i forgot anubis

[supple nymph]

morrigan is my highest fear win i will glaze it to the end of times

[polar abyss]

If I had to say it from a “High fear perspective”; Circe, perhaps Morrigan (haven’t done 50+ with it yet so it’s from others), and Mel Staff

[supple nymph]

is mel staff really that good now that it got the specials buff?

[polar abyss]

Nyx may also be a top 3

[polar abyss]

Yes. Definitely yes. Put on Aphro Special, Huntress, and Dual Moonshot, and you completely and utterly ruin everything with Dash Attack -> Special

Even with the 33% nerf to its bonus

It is that strong (used to be +60)

[lone wing]

what can i do with the pearls?

[supple nymph]

the base special? damn

[lone wing]

50th? jeez

[supple nymph]

the 30 power goes hard with the aphro special scaling xD

[buoyant matrix]

the ones from scylla? they're used in specific incantations and decorations

you'll find use for them later

[verbal rampart]

The pearls you collect from Scylla? Useful for some Arcana and Incantations, but also mainly for Weapon aspects

[polar abyss]

Yes. It’s one of 3 weapons I’ve done 62 with (Circe, Mel Staff, and Mel Blades)

[supple nymph]

mel blades? thats impressive

[verbal rampart]

Many players played much, much longer. More than 100 nights

[supple nymph]

what build did u go for

scorch?

[buoyant matrix]

though many have played much less

[polar abyss]

Basically, yes. Thermal Dynamics + Dancing Knives (tried to go for Trick Knives)

[verbal rampart]

The important is that there are many players. Each taking the time they need to slay the Titan and the Father of Monsters.

[polar abyss]

Also, that 100% backstab is a sleeper bonus. The other valuable hammer I got was Wicked Onslaught, and it too destroys so much.

[dusky mountain]

Really? I only played this aspect once, gt my First surface clear with it

[lone wing]

i have 6 nights so far, and already got to chronos ;D

[dusky mountain]

Also lmk your morrigan build and Hammers, maybe im playing it wrong

[lone wing]

is that good or bad?

[polar abyss]

Scorch spam special is crazy. The night spawn additionally apply scorch.

[buoyant matrix]

good

[polar abyss]

And Hestia allows you to then grab Cardio Gain for funding your OSprint

[lone wing]

also any tips for gold? like should i save up for the room before chronos or use them for boons?

[verbal rampart]

Then worry not my friend, because that is much better than me

[supple nymph]

@dusky mountain morrigan needs final slice, wicked onslaught, or sweeping ambush

i had the hera attack but was forced to swap on olympus endshop

[buoyant matrix]

buying boons is usually best

[polar abyss]

Without Debt, you want to basically always use money on boons and hammers if you want a specific hammer

[lone wing]

should i take Wicked onslaught for +20 to attacks or attack faster?

[supple nymph]

20 power is better

[polar abyss]

On what weapon?

[lone wing]

the daggers

[polar abyss]

No, what aspect?

[buoyant matrix]

wicked onslaught is a blade hammer

[lone wing]

or whatever they're called ;D

[buoyant matrix]

i doubt they have aspects

[lone wing]

hammer

[polar abyss]

Oh. Right.

Just take the +20 Power

[lone wing]

can i send ss somewhere? ;D

[buoyant matrix]

take wicked onslaught

[supple nymph]

which aspect of the blades he meant, 20 power is always the better hammer anyways

[lone wing]

kk ty

i think i have aspects

[dusky mountain]

funny, i also played scorch but in my attack. that was no fear though since it was my first clear

[verbal rampart]

Is that me or Scorch builds are considered the best?

[buoyant matrix]

on some aspects yeah

some prefer blitz or %boost builds

[verbal rampart]

For now I never played with aspects, I admit most of my runs are with the Torches / Aspect of Melinoë

[lone wing]

where can i send a screenshot? im not sure which blessing to take from echo

[frank mulch]

you can upload it to an image hosting site like ibb or imgur and link it here

(or post it in another server and link the image)

[lone wing]

i dont have access to post images ;D

[dusky mountain]

i was really confused there as why you took aphro attack on daggers lmao

[lone wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955948111904264192/1413490865757880370/image.png?ex=68bc1f73&is=68bacdf3&hm=a9e45c18445c2394495358e990f9ccb35daa6a518d4d91a34fe93106a74dbb05&

oh there it works ;D

my last one from aphrodite was +7 to power but primes 20 mana

[buoyant matrix]

evade evade evade is always good but depending on your build the other two can be great too, take whichever one you feel like!

[lone wing]

the thing is i evade a lot, so that will be gone in like 1 round ;D

[buoyant matrix]

no no dodge is different, it's basically a chance to not receive damage when you get hit

dashing =/= dodging

[lone wing]

OH

[polar abyss]

The follow weapons are weapons I’d say where Scorch is huge:

• Circe (Cast)
• Anubis (Attack)
• Mel Blades (Special, or Attack/Cast for Thermal Dynamics Blitz Special)
• Pan (Scorch isn’t the meta anymore, but still good with the Thermal Dynamics one)
• Eos (Special, also mainly for Cardio Gain)
• Nyx (Special)

[heavy nova]

i assume the former, but just in case: does aspect of eos' cloud calculate its aphrodite damage buff based on your position or the cloud's

[polar abyss]

I believe it’s your position to the enemy

[verbal rampart]

You have my thanks for this precious advice.

[supple nymph]

reward reward reward means you get another boon, not the same boon

[heavy nova]

there was some tiny part of my heart that was hoping it considered the cloud the source of the attack for the purposes of 'nearby' but yeah i figured :( maybe blitz would be fun on it with arc flash then...

[polar abyss]

Perhaps. I’ve seen Hera and Apollo Attack + Hestia Special

[heavy nova]

hestia special is always a classic on any torch for me

[polar abyss]

Ok, wait. Hestia Special isn’t the most common

[heavy nova]

wait i misread lol i meant hera

[polar abyss]

It’s actually Hera Special…

[heavy nova]

always mix up hera and hestia in my brain

LOL you too i suppose

[polar abyss]

No, I assumed that Hestia Special was strongest

[verbal rampart]

Funny, when I beat Chronos for the second time I had their Duo Boon. It's pretty cool I think

[polar abyss]

Most common build for 50+ Eos is;
Zeus Attack
Hera Special
Aphro cast (I guess to pull in targets to the cloud)
Apollo Rush (if taken. Actual most common is No Rush)
Aphro Gain

[lone wing]

also i hate strife

[lone wing]

bruh am dum xD

i thought it was the same one it gave last time

[orchid acorn]

always you, never the attack.

[lone wing]

should i talk to eris or no? cuz last time she gave me a debuff making me take 20% more dmg per encounter

[supple nymph]

you are forced to talk to her i think

[polar abyss]

Pretty sure that if she shows up, you are forced to talk to her and will give you that debuff

[supple nymph]

thats what happens when you go too far on early runs

[lone wing]

oh ye, thats stupid

[lone wing]

so im beating the game too fast and she's making me take more dmg cuz of that? xD

[supple nymph]

i dont know for how many runs shes going to harass you

[lone wing]

well im at night 7 so till like night 10-15?

[polar abyss]

It can only occur for the first 10 nights, according to the wiki

[verbal rampart]

"Should I" the question is meaningless. And by that, I mean : if you encounter her, then you do not have a choice. You must speak to her

[buoyant matrix]

Dyno can't give me the feedback role smh

it's still down 😤

[limpid oar]

Ohh by anything i meant any companion, should've made it clearer mb

[supple nymph]

ah right

[heavy nova]

oh cool support fire just flat out doesn't work on anubis attack. awesome

[polar abyss]

Ah yes. We can go back to the Charon 62.

Really hoping it can be done.

I will admit though that when I made a comment about what’s left for UW, I was wrong.

[limpid oar]

I think you should talk to her she's nice

[polar abyss]

Momus, and the 3 Non-Nergal axes are left.

[buoyant matrix]

most feedbacks regarding trick knives are a big text wall that also criticizes other stuff, we should make one just for trick knives

[polar abyss]

On it.

[buoyant matrix]

don't offer any solutions

just something like "I don't like the dynamic between blade aspects and trick knives it's like a whole other weapon blah blah blah"

[lone wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955948111904264192/1413496557797642280/image.png?ex=68bc24c0&is=68bad340&hm=1326aa95264bb0f096fc56512d31a7b09228c5e17de86270c26ed98ac38f2245& should i take the 300 option and 125?

seems better than just 1 boon

[buoyant matrix]

most of these decisions rely a lot on what you already have

[lone wing]

yeah i noticed that after ;D

[buoyant matrix]

go with whatever you feel like

[polar abyss]

How did I do for the feedback @buoyant matrix ?

[buoyant matrix]

good 👍

upvote it yourself too

artificially raise the numbers 😈

[polar abyss]

No. What needs to happen is to get everyone in the other discord to upvote it.

[dusky mountain]

This isnt a game that you can really guide like that, everything depends on your current build, boons, playstyle

Which makes it so fun and diverse

[buoyant matrix]

I don't think that'll be necessary

[hearty idol]

https://tenor.com/view/impeachment-love-democracy-i-love-democracy-gif-15723806

[lone wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955948111904264192/1413498221749207041/image.png?ex=68bc264d&is=68bad4cd&hm=a7e863d19adea5dc25f66748cd21eabcb03ff8a8f14e7b7b14beff48570fe3f7& is that actually it? lol

[hearty idol]

now time to go to the surface

[polar abyss]

Now it’s time for 50 Fear

[lone wing]

50 wat

[buoyant matrix]

no, now without god mode 🤑

[verbal rampart]

Congratulations

[buoyant matrix]

go to the courtyard, hecate left you a little gift

[verbal rampart]

How do you see they had God-Mode? Or was that a sarcasm?

[hearty idol]

the skull symbol

[lone wing]

wat is god mode?

[buoyant matrix]

symbol on the right side of aspect

the skull with 2 wings at its side

[verbal rampart]

A build-in "Easy mode" you apparently activated

[lone wing]

where da hecc

[buoyant matrix]

it's in settings in the gameplay tab

[supple nymph]

whats a tempus

[lone wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955948111904264192/1413499404492738610/image.png?ex=68bc2767&is=68bad5e7&hm=3a81f4bf9b517c2fc58e3f86edeb30367d1f398c42821eb791d481630fee7909&

[lone wing]

good question, i think traps XD

[buoyant matrix]

bruh why's the symbol there then

[lone wing]

i have no idea

[supple nymph]

my biggest flex is i never touched godmode on h1 nor h2 heh...

[verbal rampart]

Never did too, but I think a lot of players never felt the need to activate it

[lone wing]

i dont even know what god mode does tbh ;D

[verbal rampart]

If I'm not wrong (I could because I never used it) it greatly reduces the damages of your foes

[supple nymph]

makes the game easier

[lone wing]

i kinda wanna try it now xD

to see how easy chronos would be with it

[supple nymph]

you already did

[verbal rampart]

As you wish

[lone wing]

i didn't though, i haven't touched that yet

[supple nymph]

next to the weapon, skull thingy with wings

thats god mode

[exotic saddle]

What do you gain by lying when it's obvious that you used god mode? It's on the damn pic.

Just have your fun your way. No need for this.

Use god-mode, don't be ashamed.

[supple nymph]

new player and doesnt know what god mode is

they have the eris debuff which means its one of the first 10 nights

[exotic saddle]

But also 20 Arcana.

I don't remember, how much did you start with?

[hearty idol]

it could also been activated and deactivated mid run? i remember its still count in Hades 1 but idk if it does in 2.

[lone wing]

Well oke if you say so, i haven't touched it but hey, i dont wanna argue with y'all.

[verbal rampart]

What is the best aspect for the Torches btw? (Including the Hidden Aspect)

[buoyant matrix]

probably moros

[hearty idol]

Moros!

[buoyant matrix]

though we have woken up to how good eos is too

but best is still moros i think

[polar abyss]

Eos does have a higher fear clear

[verbal rampart]

Noted, I'll try my next run with Moros

[polar abyss]

The thing with Eos is that it requires a bit more setup than Moros, but its peak is huge.

[hearty idol]

oh but i remember using Eos Aphro attack with aphrodite + Poseidon duo and its a nuke

but i still like using Moros more

[lone wing]

am i the only one who hates torches? ;D

[verbal rampart]

Torches I love. Torches I live for

[polar abyss]

People sometimes wish for the old torches, where OAttack could occur constantly. But I think a lot of people have accepted New Torches.

[buoyant matrix]

nope, there's plenty who don't like them

also you don't have aspects yet

torch aspects are a huge upgrade to the weapon

[hearty idol]

i wish we still have the old special circle, that was fun to use

[lone wing]

how do i get aspects?

[buoyant matrix]

you need to unlock all weapons

shortly after hecate will give you the incantation

[verbal rampart]

Is there such a thing as a "best familiar"? And if yes, which one?

[buoyant matrix]

nope

depends build/fear/speed goal

[verbal rampart]

For now I admit I didn't really got any interest in them

[hallow vault]

So yeah so far Hades 2 and Silksong are my Favorite sequels ever

[buoyant matrix]

i also loved the evil within 2

[verbal rampart]

I mean, Hades 2 is even superior to Hades 1 by many aspects. Not all of them, but many.

[hallow vault]

Also u cant pause in the Chronos rivals Fight 😭😭

I figured it out Yesterday

[buoyant matrix]

lol @polar abyss charon 62 underworld is done

#h2-victory-boasting message

and it was without hecuba??

[verbal rampart]

Oh really? He regains his control of time with the Vow of Rivals?

[buoyant matrix]

you can do an incantation to make it possible

[fading knoll]

you dont need hecuba if u just choose to suffer first 3 rooms of Erebus

just like the ol days

[buoyant matrix]

i guess...

[brave urchin]

So now that we all calmed down from Silksong....

HADES II 1.0 WHEN???

Supergiant, pls. I am losing it.

[buoyant matrix]

??? i haven't calmed down yet

[verbal rampart]

Same. I literaly forbid myself to record it before the 1.0 and MY COUNTRY NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME

[fading knoll]

sir its been less than 24hrs

im skonging for a month

[hallow vault]

Silksong and Hades 2 1.0 in the same Year

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[brave urchin]

[hallow vault]

RIP other Indie Games

[verbal rampart]

Also RIP big studios. The launch of Hades 2 1.0 will be a big sting in their foot.

[brave urchin]

[hallow vault]

I mean Silksong was a full blown Punch in the face

To them already 😭

[polar abyss]

You’ve got to be kidding me.

I did see it, yes

There’s 3 aspects left I think. Momus, Mel Axe, and Thanatos in UW. Selene, Pan, and Persephone are done by Vytautas, but have to be uploaded.

[hallow vault]

I mean Silksong will dominate everything in the next weeks

But im sure Hades 2 1.0 will drum up hype too

I mean its in my Opinion an Amazing Game

Like legit it deserves the 96% on Steam

Supergiant are so Amazing

[verbal rampart]

Supergiant Games are in a very special category, the "Extremely loved developers". Along with Massive Monster (ya know, the devs of Cult of the Lamb)

[hallow vault]

Yeah

Team Cherry is too

And Solo devs like Concerned Ape and Toby Fox too

[verbal rampart]

Exactly

[oak ivy]

calmed down???? the silksong hype is only starting!

[oak ivy]

yeah I'm hoping h2 1.0 doesnt release for another month at least 🙏

let me enjoy silksong without needing to rush it

[dusky mountain]

Ravenswatch gets a New bih Update soon

Really fun Game , its basically Hades but you can Play with friends

[verbal rampart]

I tried Ravenswatch and I like it, but I think it's better with friends

[oak ivy]

I tried it once, it seems not bad but not nearly as well polished as Hades though.. it doesnt feel quite as good

[dusky mountain]

I mostly played it MP, wayyy Better than solo

[brave urchin]

[verbal rampart]

I can understand your point of view but please, do not wish for such things.

[oak ivy]

okay I understand ❤️

I'm sure it will come out soon!

I was one of the people who believed in the August release even 😔

[verbal rampart]

I'm waiting so hard. Because I intend to make a complete let's play of it, but I don't wanna start before the 1.0 comes

[sleek oar]

What would yall say is the best weapon to play ares attack/special with

[oak ivy]

Hornet's needle weapon

[sleek oar]

I will definitely try that on my next run

[raven perch]

I like it on torches but I don’t think that’s the Best way to play it

Uhmm maybe Selene coat

[oak ivy]

meow how much have you silksong'ed yesterday?

[sleek oar]

Dang coat is my worst weapon by far

[raven perch]

Like 8 hours.. i had work 😔

[verbal rampart]

Zero. I don't play Silksong, metroidvanias are not my thing.

[oak ivy]

I did like 5-6 hours because I was too exhausted...... soooo much to do and see in this game i was getting so fatigued

i'm already sooo behind everyone else lmaooo...

ry is probably already in the end game, they stayed up very late to binge it all

[merry whale]

i keep dying in silksong it's bad

(my skill is bad)

[sleek oar]

Is it issued even

[oak ivy]

it's soooo hard

[merry whale]

perhaps

[oak ivy]

the platforming and diagonal pogos are sooo hard to get used to

[raven perch]

I still hate ant Territory

[oak ivy]

I love it but wow it's very very difficult

[merry whale]

i legit might switch to keyboard cuz the diagonals are annoying me

[oak ivy]

OMG I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT

[raven perch]

Also this messes with my headcanon that Tiso is an ant

[oak ivy]

I WANTED SOOOO BAD to get through that gauntlet but i kept dying like 20 times so i just gave up 😔

||2 very tanky difficult enemies at the same time????||

this game is brutal...

[merry whale]

ant territory seems ludicrous like what do u mean i have to perfectly pogo or fall into spikes and return to the start

[raven perch]

Exactly it’s awfull

Getting a special item will help

[oak ivy]

enemies are so spongey and take so long to kill, even simple enemies have such complex movesets too.... and so many of them deal 2 hearts of damage..............

[oak ivy]

interesting!!

[merry whale]

oh wait there's a special item, good to know so i don't fail for no reason

[oak ivy]

yeah the spikes are so punishing!!!

[raven perch]

It’s just the ||drifter’s cloak||

[oak ivy]

the healing in this game is not very generous at all either...

needing almost the entirety of your spool to heal is so punishing

[oak ivy]

are you talking about the ||sprint mechanic?||

[raven perch]

No it’s the ||glide mechanic; go to the right side of the map past deep docks stag (you need the key)||

[oak ivy]

I am not very far yet 😔 i wont clikc on that then

[merry whale]

time to do some more exploring (later)

[raven perch]

It’s some advice for if you want help on where to go (it’s a good item)

[oak ivy]

okay!

I do love how acrobatic Hornet is though!!

when you do manage to pull off some cool tricks you feel so cool and elegant 😌

a feeling that I'd never get when playing the original hollow knight

[verbal rampart]

Has anyone crossed paths with Charybde? I did a few Surface runs and never met her

[oak ivy]

Yeah, it's just kinda rare

[verbal rampart]

Where does she appear?

[little frost]

you'll see her more than enough on thessaly for a lifetime if you play enough

[verbal rampart]

Ok, guess I'll just insist

[oak ivy]

only in Thessaly but there is a special way you can encounter her somewhere else... but it's spoilers so I wont tell you

[verbal rampart]

Oh also sorry, I didn't know the english name was Charybdis. We simply name her Charybde in french

[oak ivy]

It's close enough!

[little frost]

we understand what you meant :)

and that's all words have to do to work

[verbal rampart]

Well actually many characters have the same name in french and english, we simply add accents on some letters (Melinoë, Hécate, Poséidon, Héra, Arès, Héraclès...). One notable exception is Odysseus, or Ulysse in my tongue

[dusky mountain]

okay guys

what run should i do now, you decide

[oak ivy]

hmm.....

Moros torches!

[dusky mountain]

haven played those in a while, so be it

what gods should i play

[oak ivy]

uhhhh Hestia 🔥

set things on fire 🔥

[dusky mountain]

UW or Surface

[polar abyss]

UW.

[oak ivy]

Surface

[dusky mountain]

circe was faster

[oak ivy]

[dusky mountain]

lilac you can decide my companion

[oak ivy]

hecuba!!!

[dusky mountain]

not a hecuba fan but your wish is my command

[oak ivy]

free mana is great though

one of the best companions!

[dusky mountain]

@polar abyss should i do a fun run or try high fear

note that i have no idea how to play moros

[polar abyss]

How high are we talking from a jump?

[dusky mountain]

my highest fear so far was only 24

[polar abyss]

And you plan to try….

[dusky mountain]

32 eventually at least

but i wouldt use moros for that lol

[polar abyss]

You could either slowly push it or do a jump equal to or greater than your highest

For my first 62, I went from 32 -> 40 -> 50 -> 62

[oak ivy]

just do frenzy 2 and rivals 4 then!

good to get used to that

[polar abyss]

There was only 1 weapon where I jumped high from no idea how to play it, and that was Nyx (N.A. -> 51)

[dusky mountain]

i actually have never used frenzy befoore

[polar abyss]

It’s plausible, but I don’t recommend it cause I am a psycho

[oak ivy]

if you want to pursue high fear (40+) then you will have to get used to it 😔
if you dont care about 40+ fear, then dont bother turning it on!

[polar abyss]

If you are aiming for some higher fears, you’ll want to do Frenzy 2. Unless you want to practice Rivals, though even then it may be better to do Frenzy 2 Rival 4

[dusky mountain]

ive only done rival typhon, havent tried chronos yet

[oak ivy]

Frenzy is really only for if you want to pursue very very high fear eventually

[dusky mountain]

ill try a 32

[polar abyss]

But it does help with Timer.

[dusky mountain]

with the stuff you told me to use lol

[polar abyss]

Good luck and have fun

[dusky mountain]

hestia special or attack on moros?

gt both epic offered

[polar abyss]

One moment…

Hmmm…. I guess Special?

The most common Moros listed on crossroads is Hera Attack Zeus Special

Though there is also Aphro Special above or tied with Zeus Special at 50 and 62.

Not to say that that is mandatory, but I often try to share ideas to others based on what is confirmed to work.

I am thinking Hestia special therefore, and go for Hera Attack, Cardio again / Born again, and perhaps Incandescent Aura.

[little frost]

yeah a % on attack is nice cause the omega attack explosions on moros scale well, but it isn't strictly necessary to follow that, hestia would work on both attack or special

[dusky mountain]

bruh 1 hp after hecate lmao

i got hit 4 times by her fields while hexed fmll

[agile shoal]

hades 2 tomorrow

[verbal rampart]

Don't make me hope for the 1.0

[dusky mountain]

TIL sea star can proc on selene omg how nice

[fathom lake]

Aphro Special on Supay used to be so fun 😭

I should try it again to see if it holds up

With slow cooker prolly

[hearty idol]

why its not fun anymore? is it out of range to proc aphr special?

[fathom lake]

PRobably

I always ran Island Getaway when doing that run

[hearty idol]

slap aphro + poseidon and you'll be fine

yep

[shell widget]

You’ll be fine, rivals typhon is harder than chronos by a good chunk

[fathom lake]

HAHAHAHAHHsdfghjkl-ñ{ñoilukjn

Typhon rivals a bit easier to me

[shell widget]

I suck at dodging the one that splits ;-;

That one attack and the laser beam that comes back are the reason he’s harder

At least to me

[fathom lake]

I thank face a lot tbh

Thats why i started running DD when first playing Rivals

But i have lost that fear
Just get more life and spiritual affirmation [mybemloved]

[limpid oar]

Whenever I run surface Typhon is just a dps race to me, I should probably learn how to fight him properly at some point

[fathom lake]

Yeah

It works for me to Stay at the top and just dogge the headslam and the ocasional Evil Gale

[dusky mountain]

@oak ivy@polar abysseyooo I did it, 32 fear cleared with the stuff you told me to use xD #h2-victory-boasting message

moros damage is pretty insane i completely forgot how hard that thing hits

[buoyant matrix]

the only part you have to "learn" is phase 4 and babality

[polar abyss]

Nice! In the meanwhile, I failed 51 Moros…

[dusky mountain]

also used frenzy for the first time

[urban topaz]

October all in

[dusky mountain]

i could have easiyl done 35 fear cse i only took time 2

i had plenty of time left at the end

actually nvm, its 8 mins less with time 3 right?

[buoyant matrix]

yes

[polar abyss]

Time 3 is 5 minutes per region compared to 2’s 7 minutes

[dusky mountain]

sheesh

oh and my hecuba was only lvl 1, does compaion lvl 10 make a difference?

[polar abyss]

Yes.

[dusky mountain]

well then i have some more room to improve even more nice

[agile shoal]

evil what?

[wide socket]

just got morrigan... the triad damage is almost criminal

it does not get multiplied by anything right?

[fathom lake]

Evil Gust

Like

A gust
But EeeeeeEEVvvVIIiiLlll

[arctic fog]

Nope but Daedalus hammers and Hephaestus’s legendary can boost triad damage

[pallid cradle]

Okay Mermaid Man

[polar abyss]

New announcement!

||No it is not 1.0 but it’s still cool||

[arctic fog]

It made me tear up a bit

I’m glad SGG is so successful 🙁 I love it when creatives succeed

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/maçavras1-gif-16101498646883457546

[dire sand]

Need a breakdown of data of how many anouncements are game updates vs merch

[arctic fog]

Wow I am clinically unhappy

I think anything could make me cry

[polar abyss]

[arctic fog]

Idk it’s just nice that they’re so popular and that they’ve done so well with their OCs and they’re making merch of them and idk

I think I’m dying

Today is very emotional for me

Figma zagreus… what the hell is wrong with me

[sleek oar]

Whats the announcement

[hearty idol]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-liar-star-wars-lying-gif-8634649

[arctic fog]

Was literally a merch drop

I’m just tweaking don’t mind me

[sleek oar]

Merch is cool

Says my brokeass

[arctic fog]

I should buy merch

[polar abyss]

It is an announcement. ||It is also a troll for the 1.0 folks ||

[little frost]

you too, could have a lil guy from ur favorite greek mythology based godlike rouge-like hades in your very own room!

[sleek oar]

I drew zag on my whiteboard once

Thats merch enough right

[twin rivet]

Should they delay H2 until 2026 so it doesn't have to compete with Silksong for GOTY

[prisma monolith]

let them compete, h2 def can win

[hybrid gulch]

Sure hope not. It's not like the entire world votes on the designation so it'd be kind of silly to delay just for that

[twin rivet]

But... I want both to win

[prisma monolith]

lol

[hybrid gulch]

They can both win in your heart ❤️

[covert valve]

Lmaoo I came here to check what people had to say about the new announcement and I was not disappointed 😆

[hybrid gulch]

Seriously, don't put too much stock into stuff like GOTY. The game awards things are not a reflection on what game was best, and people's favorite games lose every year.

[prisma monolith]

what new announcement?

[covert valve]

They're releasing hades 1 merch

[prisma monolith]

oh really? where was the announcement

[hybrid gulch]

in #announcements

[prisma monolith]

thats actually sick

i want

[frank mulch]

It’s nice to know abt figma zag bc I kept forgetting and also only learned through this server outside of the announcement

I bought it like a few days ago but it’s still cool lol

Mel figma when tho……

[prisma monolith]

tf is "figma" tho

[hybrid gulch]

the figure seems cool but I'm not personally a fan of how his face looks. I won't get in the way of everyone else who wants one though 😄

[frank mulch]

Goodsmile’s action figures as opposed to nendoroid (the chibi ones, less poseable) or popup parade/otherwise (which are just normal statue figures)

[prisma monolith]

is that answering to me?

[frank mulch]

Yep that is a figma