h2-discussion

[rapid osprey]

the botw one

[orchid acorn]

i wrote and deleted like 3 messages earlier

[raven perch]

Pronto have you ever seen a man before

[indigo cypress]

Fair enough, totk he experienced twink death

[tacit light]

Guys Hera is so fine (RESPECTFULLY)

[oak ivy]

He's only seen chicken nuggets....

[indigo cypress]

And cheesecake

[oak ivy]

😔

[orchid acorn]

i am a man

[raven perch]

You don’t count

[rapid osprey]

are you a twink?

[orchid acorn]

im def not a hunk

but ill fight the twink definition

[rapid osprey]

twink confirmed

[tacit light]

Holly Molly

[raven perch]

More like twig

[orchid acorn]

im too tall for that

im more bear

w i d e

[raven perch]

Are you hairy

[orchid acorn]

yes

[raven perch]

I’ll allow it

Hephaestus is a bear

[oak ivy]

Ok I gotta go right now actually
Meow good luck 💔

[orchid acorn]

lilac always so busy 😔

[indigo cypress]

Spoiler alert: if twink is considered an insult to the person they're probably not a twink

Only a twink if it's purely observation

[raven perch]

Thank you I’ll need it

[orchid acorn]

this is why you don't procrastinate homework

[rapid osprey]

go do your homework lilac

[tacit light]

Speaking of Hephaestus I really like his design in hades!! Very cool handicap rep

[raven perch]

Naw dude some people don’t like being called skinny

[tacit light]

This is true

[raven perch]

I think it’d be cute if Mel and Heph talked about their respective prosthetics. Maybe to fuel a magic vs. smithery debate

[tacit light]

YESS

[indigo cypress]

Twink does not mean just skinny, there's plenty of other attributes

[raven perch]

I mean yeah but those attributes are “hairless” and “gay”

[indigo cypress]

Like lowkey it never makes sense like 75% of the time if used outside of a queer space 😭

[raven perch]

Calling someone “hairless” isn’t particularly considered insulting and most people ignore the “gay” part

[rapid osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bashful-gif-22016632

this is a twink

[raven perch]

This! Is my husband

[orchid acorn]

😔 all healing is dead

[raven perch]

Gayyy

[rapid osprey]

dawg I'm straight but why does link look so bad in that outfit

[raven perch]

I’m never ever touching scars 3

[orchid acorn]

@indigo cypress

[indigo cypress]

Welp guess Bounce Back's going back to the depths too then

[tacit light]

Are you sure 🤔

[polar abyss]

51 Artemis UW done (by me).

[raven perch]

The outfit itself has orientalist vibes but I think he looks fine in it

[polar abyss]

I used the block just in the Chronos fight iirc.

[rapid osprey]

yeah by bad I meant hot

[polar abyss]

And it was not the Instakill. It was the orbs and the pull attacks.

[tacit light]

Very cool

[polar abyss]

Blast builds are the stuff at 50 fear

Or at-least without Onion

I imagine it will be easier to do 62 Blast on Surface than UW

But I’m not proficient yet in Surface high fear

That’s 2/3 non Morrigan blades where I replaced its intended use for Blast spam

[indigo cypress]

They can kinda work but u have to swap out one of your duos for Hera, go blast then Bridal Glow

[polar abyss]

I see

The fun part in that run is I didn’t even have the two best duos.

I had Heph + Aphro, and tried fishing for the Apollo and Hestia duos, and didn’t get them in the successful run (but did get them in the run where Athena failed me)

Also I got Premium Service for the first time.

Side note; is Rival Hecate’s health 5800 (same as regular)?

[orchid acorn]

i wanna say no but im not sure

[polar abyss]

Idk how well it would translate at 62, but I somehow phase transitioned Hecate. She never teleported away after doing the two dark sides, because the blasts exploded.

[orchid acorn]

im not at home so i cant check but you easily can check yourself if you wanted

maybe wiki has it

[polar abyss]

Wiki says “Health: 5800”

It doesn’t list a difference for Hecate, but there are differences listed for say, Prom and Chronos

[orchid acorn]

idk check the enemydata hecate file and see where it says difficultyupgrade is if it has a new hp value

i i wanna say she does have a bit more hp but maybe not

although honestly thinking on it more if she DID have more hp it would probably time out erebus even more

so i can see why they didnt if its not changed

[humble urchin]

it doesn’t seem like she does

[polar abyss]

Well what I’ll say is I phase transitioned Rival Hecate’s twice (though it needed two curses, Furies cast, and a Heroic Blast with a few poms). Two of these blasts should transition, I think…

[frank mulch]

what transpired here

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/antman-what-the-hell-happened-here-avengers-gif-18240147

[frank mulch]

are we calling hunks twinks again

[rapid osprey]

only pronto

[orchid acorn]

[frank mulch]

come off it.....

[raven perch]

AD back me up Zag is a hunk yes?

[polar abyss]

I think it’s Zagreus being called a twink vs hunk, and also some discussion about Blast builds being better than Sister Blades’s intended use.

[orchid acorn]

Zag is absolutely not a full hunk, ill settle on twunk but thats as far as ill go

[raven perch]

It says her max health is 7250?

[orchid acorn]

Ill agree he isn't full on twink like link

but he isn't a full hunk either

[raven perch]

If Zagreus isn't a full hunk then what is

[orchid acorn]

bro is too thin

[raven perch]

He's literally not

[frank mulch]

he is hairless (in the in game sprite) but he is jacked he does not have twink elements

[polar abyss]

Is it better to say twunk, or trunk as the mix between a twink and a hunk?

[rapid osprey]

bro you cant be more jacked up than Zag unless you are fully roided up 😭

[orchid acorn]

trunk is in the pants

[raven perch]

we call em twunks

[frank mulch]

im suffering rapidly increasing psychic damage

[polar abyss]

I see.

[frank mulch]

it stacks

[raven perch]

go look up images of "hunk (man)" now

[polar abyss]

Stacks… like Shiva’s destructive force.

[rapid osprey]

from the circe psychic leash????

[indigo cypress]

AD dropping a new curse into H2?

[polar abyss]

We are manifesting Shiva’s power to curse AD.

[frank mulch]

the hades 2 chat is dropping a new curse on me

come on .

[indigo cypress]

One more curse and we get origination

[raven perch]

greg is online greg tell us Zag is a hunk

[dense light]

i might need to hop back on

[frank mulch]

he doesnt even need to just look at him

[raven perch]

just look at him!!!

[frank mulch]

melinoe is a twink. send tweet

[indigo cypress]

Suddenly in the announcement tab

[dense light]

but a controller just to play hades 2 cost like 69.99 minimum

[raven perch]

NO

[raven perch]

I bought mine for 30 dollars at Target

[little frost]

he's certainly not a twink thats for sure

[dense light]

honest question but

[rapid osprey]

controller is overrated all the best players play on KBM

[frank mulch]

my controller was 50 dollers its a gamesir something

but im a kbm warrior

[polar abyss]

I just had a great idea. A tier list / scale of Twinks to Hunks of the Hades 2 cast

[frank mulch]

its like a test

where are the bears tho

thye are nowehre in this server

[little frost]

real

[raven perch]

https://www.target.com/p/powera-wired-controller-for-xbox-series-x-s-black/-/A-89503151#lnk=sametab someting like this

[rapid osprey]

heph is a bear surely

[dense light]

hmm okay

[indigo cypress]

Hold up let me go make my new tier list of the proper gay terminology

[dense light]

i might just wait for hades 2 switch

[raven perch]

he would be if he was gay yes

[dense light]

honest question btw did the og hades have like cloud saves to steam on release?

[orchid acorn]

getting lore from the source

[dense light]

the switch hades

[orchid acorn]

it has had cloud saves since near release yes

it didn't have cross saves i think

cause i think thats what your asking

[dense light]

so cross saves took a second?

[orchid acorn]

a few months i believe yeah, and other platforms never got it

[rapid osprey]

I'm convinced everyone is at least 20% gay in this game

[raven perch]

Except Hades himself I think

[orchid acorn]

if olympian gay=true

real code leaked

[raven perch]

Hades is neither Chthonic nor Olympian so that tracks

[rapid osprey]

Hades just loves his wife and nothing else

[dense light]

tbh im not too worried if i have to restart hades 2 on switch 2 its moreso i just use my pc as a regular computer now LOL

[raven perch]

Hades is demiromantic yes

[dense light]

I could just play it on computer but i have no controllers i can bluetooth save for joycon 2 which im not sure would work

[raven perch]

you can try kbm but it's not a superb experience imo

[dense light]

Yeah no i tried once i hated it

[rapid osprey]

I need a dictionary for these terms istg

[frank mulch]

i like kbm 🥺

[dense light]

oh well i can wait another 2 weeks its not like hades is getting a major update anytime soon

[dense light]

worlds first hades kbm player

[frank mulch]

can you explain demiromanticism to me. i understand it as a concept but not why its a separate identity and not just an experience

come onnnn all the best h1 players use it

[rapid osprey]

Foolish is on kbm so its objectively the right answer

so is boated

[orchid acorn]

kbm is peak

and foolish uses it too and holds both wrs so i mean

whos really winning 😎

[raven perch]

It's part of the aromantic spectrum, the best way I can describe it is you only begin to experience romantic feelings for someone once you form a deep emotional connection

[frank mulch]

is that not normal? i feel like love-at-first-sight experiences are the edge cases

[raven perch]

So like, a demiro person wouldn't really develop crushes on anyone

[humble urchin]

not to shoot off anyone, but isn’t this…the norm?

i know it’s a spectrum but can you really experience romantic feelings without having a deep connection at first?

[rapid osprey]

you can feel attracted to someone without knowing them yes

[raven perch]

Yee puppy crushes and etc. Romantic attraction is essentially the desire to form romantic relationships with someone, you can have that desire with anyone really

[humble urchin]

but a crush is just a crush, more so being attracted to them, not having romantic feelings

[frank mulch]

i feel like there can be a desire for romance without feelings for someone specific. yk what i mean?

[raven perch]

There's different types of attraction

Aesthetic, sexual, romantic, platonic, etc.

[rapid osprey]

chat hollow knight hit a new all time peak on steam today! 66k concurrent players

[raven perch]

let's goooo can't wait for all that to immediately drop following skong release

66k players down to 50 maybe as everyone hops on

[rapid osprey]

I can't imagine the numbers on skong tho

[frank mulch]

im so scared of it

i wonder if itll break some record

[rapid osprey]

steam page is 100% gonna crash day 1

[raven perch]

I don't expect it to, but it'd be nice

While Silksong is probably the most anticipated video game of all time, the audience for that anticipation isn't as big as one would think

[rapid osprey]

I mean 15 million sales on HK is pretty huge. The fan base has increased by a LOT since back in the day

[raven perch]

15 million over its lifespan + that's probably not even the largest sale count of video games at all

Yeah the highest selling indie game is Terraria with 60.7 million

[rapid osprey]

oh yeah its not even close. Like terraria has over 50 million iirc. but its still pretty huge

its hype is very comparable to elden ring

[raven perch]

it's big! but it's not breaking any records any time soon

[frank mulch]

and how did that turn out

[rapid osprey]

wdym?

[orchid acorn]

like over under on bg3s record on steam

i'd say under

[frank mulch]

i thought people did not rank er that high in the fromsoft "scale"

[rapid osprey]

elden ring is peak

[frank mulch]

ya i enjoyed it

[orchid acorn]

wot

i swear ER is like.... the top of the top.

even in community polling

[rapid osprey]

fromsoft fans famously hate people having opinions and love gate keeping

I would know

[frank mulch]

maybe its just something i saw, im not stating it as a fact

i liked elden ring, i have not played any other of those games

[orchid acorn]

like afaik the scale is like ER>DS3>DS1=BLOODBORN>DS>DS2

[frank mulch]

i also have not finished it. i got lost

e

[rapid osprey]

like mfs say Bloodborne is better than ER and while its a good game, nostalgia is 1000% carrying that claim

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/marikiplier-e-meme-lord-farquaad-gif-22138504

[frank mulch]

ds2 so controversial

[lost ravine]

Skong being $20 means I think it actually does have a shot here

[rapid osprey]

yeah that sounds about right. sekiro fits between ER and ds3 imo

[raven perch]

silksong doesn't have the sexy white guy though :/

[orchid acorn]

over ds3? no shot

MAYBE = DS1

[raven perch]

i do not like astarion for the record nor have i played bg3

[rapid osprey]

ok yeah maybe not over ds3. just under

[frank mulch]

the only thing i know how to compare it to is old overwatch. ppl keep saying it sucks now and it was better then (i also said this) then they brought back the classic patch event and i was humbled

[orchid acorn]

but nostalgia carries ds1 so prob is > ds1

[frank mulch]

it sucked. its good now.

nostalgia is so strong

[lost ravine]

It is the most wish listed game on steam right? Combine that with unintentional meme advertising and an extremely accessible price point

[orchid acorn]

ds2 is just "hey lets jump this guy" simulator

[frank mulch]

not with that attitudeeeee

[orchid acorn]

encounter design so ASS 😭

[raven perch]

?????

[frank mulch]

im not even done with this im just like what

[raven perch]

why didn't you just do butch/femme ?

[orchid acorn]

literally barely looks but pos/sis is def not bear

[frank mulch]

i feel like i should delete this

[indigo cypress]

Oh yeah good point

[raven perch]

WTF IS A PASSAROUND???

[rapid osprey]

imma be honest I'm very immune to nostalgia lol. like its nice to have but none of my opinions are ever really carried by it

[orchid acorn]

sgg mod hates lgbtq content confirmed /sarcasm

[frank mulch]

ok my excuse is the swear

[indigo cypress]

Oh we all know, to me it's a compliment

[raven perch]

oh where swear

[frank mulch]

im the lgbt content

[raven perch]

I DON"T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS

THAT"S NOT A DENOMINATION

[frank mulch]

meg is also not a lesbian

[tranquil wren]

ds2 is a good souls game

[rapid osprey]

awe hell nah

[tranquil wren]

my "hot take" of the day

[orchid acorn]

meg def is lesbian coded in looks

[raven perch]

Meg famously has sex with a man

[raven perch]

you're wrong but whatever

[orchid acorn]

she just tried a bit of pp for fun

[frank mulch]

you dont need to be bi for that

[tranquil wren]

if you get ganked in ds2 it's an issue in skill

[frank mulch]

anyway lets rein it in everybody im getting afeared

[orchid acorn]

are we talking as a player who knows the encounters/follows a guide?

[rapid osprey]

my guy, have you SEEN frigid outskirts and iron passage???

[orchid acorn]

cause a normal player is def getting the wrong side of detroit simulator

[tranquil wren]

a player with situational awareness

frigid outskirts is undefendable, sure

[frank mulch]

oh this is what i dislike abt some of these games like. you need a guide to play them. otherwise you suffer not in a fun way

[orchid acorn]

so 10% of the playerbase

[tranquil wren]

lmao

[raven perch]

when are we getting puzzles in hades 2

lets turn this place into silent hill

[rapid osprey]

like ds2 has quite a few redeeming factors imo, but the encounter design was 100% turbo ass

[frank mulch]

when are we getting a capri sun. and by we i mean me. i am going to the fridge

[rapid osprey]

ADP was also a terrible concept

[tranquil wren]

I don't think anyone defends adp

[rapid osprey]

oh I've seen plenty of ppl defend it lol

[tranquil wren]

aside from elden ring, imo ds2 had the most variety in all aspects of the game

[rapid osprey]

dlc dungeons were good for the most part, and the game has really fun build variety, but the encounter design makes it so hard to enjoy

[tranquil wren]

but ds1 is probably my favourite because of the aesthetic

[rapid osprey]

majula was peak tho

such a beautiful hub

[tranquil wren]

true!

there's even a majula hub mod for elden ring

[rapid osprey]

I know I used that one lol

[frank mulch]

i got 2

[rapid osprey]

2 what?

[tranquil wren]

did you buy ds2

[rapid osprey]

please tell me you didn't....

[indigo cypress]

Some ppl drink alchohol to forget, AD uses caprisun ig

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/7wuKg3V

New meme

[stoic urchin]

chronos' what

[frank mulch]

yuh i bought like 20 so im indulging

[rapid osprey]

gooner is offensive 😭

[frank mulch]

chronos' nothing. you didnt see that

[rapid osprey]

its so over

[indigo cypress]

Last time I had a caprisun I found it in my freezer, drank it later saw it expired 2 years ago

[stoic urchin]

oh a mod is here i think its the first time ive seen one in chat

[indigo cypress]

But I didn't die ig

[orchid acorn]

if you didnt die it was fine

i once ate a pbj of ingredients that expired a year ago in the fridge at work

[rapid osprey]

I feel like that wasn't even top 10 weirdest message in this chat lol 😭

[orchid acorn]

i lived

[frank mulch]

i live here

[stoic urchin]

can i call you publicity

[frank mulch]

what

oh

[rapid osprey]

no ADs full name is ADHD

[frank mulch]

anno domini

[rapid osprey]

Anno Domimi High Definition

[frank mulch]

like my parent before me, BC

exactlyyyyy

[orchid acorn]

chat i think im finally old, i look at houses online that i can't afford 😔

[rapid osprey]

I don't do that yet but I do fuss over grocery prices

[indigo cypress]

You're like in the state between old and young, once you get actually old you decide to randomly move to like Arizona or something

[rapid osprey]

and if you were old and wise you would move out of america altogether 🔥

[hasty ocean]

why do all the old farts have to move to AZ

[frank mulch]

my landlord pissed me off so bad i did this and then realized i cant even get a mortgage

[indigo cypress]

They can go to Las Vegas outskirts too

Anyways my fun is over scarring yall with that list

Back to suffering thru 62f Artemis

[orchid acorn]

meirl

[astral mica]

Pizza

[orchid acorn]

i can afford 2k in rent but not 2k in morgage apparently

just gonna buy a rope and not extend my lease on life

[hasty ocean]

rightwing hack jordan peterson is moving to AZ for his health... I hope he gets heatstroke

[orchid acorn]

(sarcasm)

[rapid osprey]

my rent is 400 so I'm gucci

[orchid acorn]

400 rent

[strange frost]

How old are all of you?

[orchid acorn]

bro lives in the middle of bufu egypt on a 3 hour trip both ways to work

[rapid osprey]

I'm 67

[astral mica]

i dont buy it, not in the states

[rapid osprey]

I'm in columbus ohio

[raven perch]

maybe with a roommate?

[frank mulch]

how are people affording houses. i have one friend who owns a place and its because of inherited money

[rapid osprey]

3 roomates lol

[astral mica]

are you in like middle of nowhere is saskachawan or something

[raven perch]

yeah there it is

1600 rent

[rapid osprey]

just scaring yall

[orchid acorn]

god i don't want roomates 😭

just let me die

[strange frost]

Why not?

[raven perch]

Unbearable

[orchid acorn]

horror stories from friends + i work weird hours

[rapid osprey]

roomates are very hit or miss I agree

[orchid acorn]

so my ass will get up and leave for the data center at like 10pmor get home at midnight

[frank mulch]

i was actually really shocked i remember him saying "im looking at places to move and this one is nice but i can barely affort it" and i was like oh how much is the rent and he said no im buying it and i was like. What

[raven perch]

kill him

all homeowners must die

[orchid acorn]

family that helps them buy stuff

[rapid osprey]

in minecraft ofc

[orchid acorn]

meow can we get married so we can have a joint income and buy a house

[raven perch]

yes

[orchid acorn]

finally, land

[rapid osprey]

wont be enough

[raven perch]

then we kill each other in ritual suicide

[frank mulch]

pronto and meow lavender marriage happening in #h2-discussion and we have no choice to be invi

oh

[orchid acorn]

idk i make 55k a year surely we can afford something on a combined income

[raven perch]

i don't make nearly that much lmfao

[orchid acorn]

call me juliet cause im taking the fake medicine

[rapid osprey]

can I come to the wedding for the free food?

[raven perch]

she kills herself right after

[orchid acorn]

its fine just make like 30k and its affordable

[raven perch]

not even that

[orchid acorn]

😔 poor forever

[raven perch]

😔

[frank mulch]

sometimes i do this and then theres nothing dairy and i leave disappointed and with a headache from loud music and surroundings

[orchid acorn]

me going to funerals for the potluck after

[strange frost]

Really?

When I go to a wedding there barbacoa

[raven perch]

who's having weddings in this economy

elopement or bust

[orchid acorn]

SO REAL

[rapid osprey]

lol I love going to parties for nothing but the food. As a broke ass student I need to save where I can 😭

[strange frost]

Lol

[raven perch]

people don't invite me to parties 😭

[orchid acorn]

i stg if i get into a relationship she better know we are broke 😭

no big ass wedding mf we are sending your parents a postcard

[raven perch]

know your worth !!! which is nothing!!!

[rapid osprey]

no I just go to those weird sorority parties in uni where everyone is invited

[orchid acorn]

yeah just show up

[frank mulch]

i have no food ive been living off these caprisuns i think soon i will wean all solid food out of my diet and maybe survive on coke zero or whatever

[orchid acorn]

living off capri suns is wild

[raven perch]

for a year I lived off a $40/month grocery budget... god bless the 99 cent store

rest in peace 😔

[rapid osprey]

instant ramen is the best cheap food

[frank mulch]

they were so cheap and so tempting

[raven perch]

And you’ll get soooo sick off them

[elfin heron]

I wish there would be a Hades 3 in the future.

[raven perch]

I don’t!

Move on

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/kpop-demon-hunters-kpop-hunters-gothcci-rumi-gif-5474277863413812180

me to the ramen packets

[frank mulch]

no it cannot be.,..............

idk about 5 caprisuns in today feeling fine

[elfin heron]

Never

I do not care about the name, call it Thor or Cthulu

I will play it.

[frank mulch]

i dont want hades 3 i want a pyrequel

[rapid osprey]

I want an entirely new IP

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/money-fire-shovel-fairly-odd-parents-gif-10365440

i say this as a pyre fan please do not make a sequel 😭

[frank mulch]

no its a prequel

[orchid acorn]

please do not iterate on pyre at all 😭

[arctic fog]

I want an entirely new IP with an entirely new art style

[frank mulch]

i agree tho i like imagining things in my brain. i want an entirely new ip

[rapid osprey]

nah art style is already peak. they can keep that

[arctic fog]

I love hades and it changed my brain chemistry but I’d love to see something different from Jen Zee too

[raven perch]

I want them to do something victorian it's obviously in their wheelhouse

[arctic fog]

She’s my idol

And the pre-hades games also had a very different look

[rapid osprey]

as long as the designs are still hot I'll buy it

[raven perch]

you find the designs hot?

[rapid osprey]

you dont?

[raven perch]

not really no lmfao

[rapid osprey]

thats like the main thing hades is known for lol

[raven perch]

they're sexless to me

[rapid osprey]

hot characters

[raven perch]

these are my dollies

[frank mulch]

its clearly her art but the style is so different between games

[raven perch]

demonstrates a nice range!

[arctic fog]

Are you the type who’s not attracted to cartoon people or is it just that they’re like ur pets

[raven perch]

The latter yeah

[frank mulch]

meow is simply playing dolls

[rapid osprey]

I wonder if they will keep the roguelite formula or move on to something else

[arctic fog]

I’ve found that the hades 2 characters are my dolls and the hades 1 characters I feel a lot of lust for

[raven perch]

The only one who’s like somewhat sexy to me is Heracles 😔

Which H1 characters?

[rapid osprey]

my doll is dusa I will protect her with my life

[frank mulch]

yeah now thinking abt it i like playing dolls with hades characters and they are attractive but im not attracted to them....?? most of them

it must be said heracles is very hot

[rapid osprey]

surely prometheus too right?

[raven perch]

Yeee like I can tell that aesthetically they are very pretty but I don’t find myself getting blushy over them

Prometheus is hot in a literal sense and I do like his design but I feel no eroticism from his appearance or presentation

[frank mulch]

yes.

[raven perch]

Oh oh wait Icarus’ hot spring portrait.. now that’s something

[humble urchin]

well i’m straight so i don’t really feel any sort of emotion towards them, but some of them are objectively indeed very hot

[rapid osprey]

I simp for Mel's hot spring portrait

[humble urchin]

prom takes the cake IMO

[frank mulch]

its actually so embarrassing to get blushy over a fictional character appearance i hate it

[raven perch]

Let’s unlearn shame together

[frank mulch]

it gives me cuteness aggression but its hotness aggresion

[rapid osprey]

I think prometheus is hot in a way that I dont wanna bang him but I wanna be like him? If that makes sense

[humble urchin]

i get where you’re coming from Fraud, i’d say i think of it the same way

[rapid osprey]

same with icarus

[frank mulch]

nah im not ashamed of it, and it seems a large part of people on the internet are just as unashamed LOL but its embarrassing nonetheless like i could be putting myself out there instead im rotating fictional characters in my mind

[humble urchin]

i just looked it up and wowzers

[arctic fog]

I need Thanatos and Meg biblically

[raven perch]

One thing I don’t really like about the designs is I don’t like how everyone is so grey all the time 😔

[nimble inlet]

meow

[arctic fog]

I kind of agree

[rapid osprey]

I lowkey hate meg for some reason and I dont even know why 😭

[raven perch]

I can’t stand Thanatos I’m sorryyyyyyy

[frank mulch]

same. please dont pelt me with rocks

[arctic fog]

He’s whiny but it’s been so long since I experienced pre-growth Thanatos that now I just find him hot

[frank mulch]

abt thanatos. meg i love dearly

[nimble inlet]

That’s the chthonic symbolizer tho

[raven perch]

It’s not, even the Olympians are grey as hell

[nimble inlet]

Are they?

[rapid osprey]

are they?

lol twins

[arctic fog]

Athena’s super grey

[raven perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1238735494062542900/1410681912573558804/image.png?ex=68b48a69&is=68b338e9&hm=72933a3d58adb8888b4a24f90b6a572c6d8a35b5abd93da327e01e0e9ba6404b& here’s apollo

[arctic fog]

Oh gay as hell joke

I missed it

[nimble inlet]

They are usually more tanned and brown

[rapid osprey]

where's the grey?

[raven perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1238735494062542900/1410684409706971177/image.png?ex=68b48cbc&is=68b33b3c&hm=e3504787e919ce9574108f81cdbd1576eb8418c7da44a6046a2d64ae74d469a0& here’s an edit I made for some saturation

[rapid osprey]

oh you mean the saturation

[arctic fog]

I always felt like H2 art is grey because it’s moonlit nighttime

[nimble inlet]

Apollo isn’t gray dawg

[raven perch]

It’s not, Apollo and everyone have a very bright background

[arctic fog]

It’s more a color cohesion/theory thing than the olympians actually being grey

[raven perch]

Obviously I know that 😭

When I say “grey” I mean the lack of saturation

[arctic fog]

Lmaoo no but they were quite literally too grey in H1

[rapid osprey]

well I regularly play souls games so this game looks VERY colorful to me lol 😭

[nimble inlet]

Maybe there’s a huge storm around and above them that blocks light there for they aren’t brightened up?

[raven perch]

Naw it’s just a style thing

There’s no diagetic reason for it

[nimble inlet]

I’m just protecting

Ik it’s the style

[nimble inlet]

“Grey”

Peak

[arctic fog]

🙁

[rapid osprey]

this might sound dumb but whats the difference between grey and gray?

[raven perch]

One is more reddish

[arctic fog]

Americans spell it as gray

The rest of the world says grey, but that’s probably changing

[rapid osprey]

I'm ngl I say both 😭

[humble urchin]

as a non-native english speaker, i also use both

[arctic fog]

I feel like the only situation where they’re not interchangeable is earl grey tea

Earl gray looks wrong

[raven perch]

I heard once that they have different etymologies and it’s not just a spelling thing

[arctic fog]

“Both derive from the Old English grǣg.” Merriam Webster

Anyway I like the desaturated look in H2 even though it’s kind of jarring for Apollo

[rapid osprey]

I think both games look ass bc theyre not realistic

cant even see mel's pores smh

[arctic fog]

I took more of an issue with it in H1, though I guess they were meant to look otherworldly

[raven perch]

What?

[arctic fog]

And one of the ways they did that was by making them look like they were made of bronze or metal

Anyway photorealistic sgg game up next

[orchid acorn]

br*tish

[rapid osprey]

it was a joke btw I love the art in these games

[raven perch]

Oh some of them surely! The Nyx kin are meant to have greyish skin to highlight their connection to darkness

[rapid osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/british-gif-26077384

[raven perch]

Then you have the Fates who are Blue Orange and Pink

[arctic fog]

Yeah I mean the cthonics were all purple and grey adjacent and then hades was just like that because he’s him

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-gif-18571399

[toxic beacon]

Apollo is the god of the fcking s u n whys he greyed out

[orchid acorn]

when you give others what you cannot behold

[toxic beacon]

No hes a selfish bastard he wouldnt do that

[rapid osprey]

I genuinely can't understand what y'all mean by greyed out 😭 I need to play fewer soulslikes lol

[raven perch]

https://x.com/thencsmaster/status/1887336494894809360?s=46&t=nAnJGK1Zodh0c4TDjwzXcg

[arctic fog]

Apollo is lowkey weak af if he can’t overpower the blue grey dim of night 🤨

[toxic beacon]

Id play soulslikes if my laptop ran them

Or my family pc for that matter

[raven perch]

Apollo isn’t technically the Sun God here he’s the god of Light

[rapid osprey]

helios is the sun god iirc

[raven perch]

He’s Sun Incarnate

[rapid osprey]

with the chariot and everything

[arctic fog]

Ok I feel like we’re dancing on a technicality here

He is the god of light that skews yellow

[raven perch]

Apollo does like. Refer to the sun

He goes “The Light of the Sun!” But he’s the light not the sun

[orchid acorn]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQbrr0gTKyIIoK1QImngMN_10M-k_FU0so8aw&s

[arctic fog]

They should have just made him the god of music for this one

[arctic fog]

Landing via aeroplane btw

[raven perch]

He is that as well

[rapid osprey]

apollo is the god of a bunch of stuff

[toxic beacon]

Who isnt

[arctic fog]

I meant like boons and vibes wise

[raven perch]

I mean there are elements of that yes

[toxic beacon]

I do wish apollo had some prophecy related boons

[raven perch]

No

[merry whale]

apollo legendary: he sings his song in scylla's fight, instantly killing her

[raven perch]

They have to do an Apollo Artemis duet man they have to do it

[toxic beacon]

Pulls out the tactical lyre

[arctic fog]

No

[merry whale]

tru !

[toxic beacon]

Ngl when i first started playing hades 2 , with all the 3d models I expected to find all the Olympians modelled when i reached olympus but w the way things are going i doubt that

So idk if theyd do apollo arti duet cuz thatd mean apollo model

[raven perch]

They showed off a wip of a Hera model in one of the trailers, so it’s a possibility

And no it doesn’t

[arctic fog]

Also Artemis has too much beef with Apollo to sing with him

[raven perch]

No? They might have some sibling rivalry but she doesn’t Hate him

H1 end credit had Orphy and Eurydice sing without needing to show their models

[toxic beacon]

Isnt that after you already saw their models

[raven perch]

Yeah but it didn’t Need their models

[arctic fog]

I think you’re missing the point gio

[toxic beacon]

Im sayin for them to introduce an apollo song theyd want some model to appear somewhere sometime

[arctic fog]

It could be an end credits exclusive

I don’t see why they’d do that since Apollo isn’t really a /major/part of the story but

There are places to insert a duet

I still don’t think it’ll happen but like

It could

[twin wind]

What's the best bone to prestige conversion item?

[buoyant matrix]

only ways to convert bones to prestige is ash and psyche

do the math on them

[hard jay]

Is it just me or is 32 fear a lot easier now with vow of rivals?

Or did I just get a lot better in the last year

[buoyant matrix]

both

now you can 100% avoid hordes and onion for 32

[rapid osprey]

50 fear is the new 32 fear fr

[hard jay]

I’ve weirdly been picking hordes a good bit in my runs (though it’s mostly with weapons like nyx and eos)

Out of my 13 32 fear runs today and yesterday I only lost 2 of them (and both of them was with morrigan)

[rapid osprey]

morrigan is a bit hard to pick up yeah

[buoyant matrix]

time to do 40s

[rapid osprey]

higly recommend getting good with it tho.

most fun aspect in the game imo

[hard jay]

I pick it a good amount, I just get really unlucky with it for some reason

I first tried 32f surface Mel axe somehow

[rapid osprey]

that's a pretty good winrate for 32f. you can probably go even higher now

do you have frenzy on?

[hard jay]

Depends on the run

[rose canyon]

today i found out i could use my old 3ds as an xbox controller- decided to try hades

results:

• i discovered my B and R buttons are kinda sunk in the console
• didn't get past tartarus bc it's a lot of trouble not being able to use the dash or proceed buttons appropiately

ps an o3ds run would be companionless and call-less bc it doesn't have the trigger buttons
may need a circle pad pro or a new 3ds

[buoyant matrix]

how would a run be on the resident evil 4 gamecube exclusive chainsaw controller

[rose canyon]

i looked it up that looks horrifying

[cinder garnet]

does the zeus thing count as a curse for that one arcana

[raven perch]

You mean blitz? Yes

[sage fjord]

i beat typhon for the first time today

[frank mulch]

Gratz!

[old hemlock]

For heinous affront can you do it with just ares and zeus? or do you need apollos vengance effect? I'm wondering because i had a entire run where I had a pretty good setup for it and I ended up just not getting heinous affront despite having ares attack, zeus special, and zeus vengance

[raven perch]

Check the boon list

[old hemlock]

nvm I got it with the exact same boon setup, I must've been incredibly unlucky

thermal dynamics + heinous affront is some crazy work lmao

[old hemlock]

I have a really good run going but im going to leave it for tomorrow

thermal dynamics + heinous affront + brave face and I got the infusion that rarifies all your commons

[raven perch]

Why brave face

[crude dragon]

You don't need Light Smite to get Heinous, but Light Smite is phenomenal with Heinous

[crude dragon]

Please tell me you're doing Tough Gain with Brave Face

[devout abyss]

what do you mean silksong in 3 days

[raven perch]

Let’s all blow up and die

It’s in 4 days actually

[dawn marsh]

is it even possible to dodge rival hecate's 3 circle thingy if you get cursed?

[devout abyss]

pogress https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742056287264833546/1411611907135242240/a1541067dcc2866f5d67dba95d9cb186.jpg?ex=68b54989&is=68b3f809&hm=6a35a50ceadcd8eaeca50f5885554907efe29003f3da9c983888cb897787b472&

[indigo cypress]

Skyfall? Should be but you'll prob take some hits from Sisters of Dead unless u get lucky

[buoyant matrix]

soul master is free and tyrant is relatively easy do those next

[devout abyss]

i banged out a lot of these in a row so i'm resting for now

[humble urchin]

that’s a lot of banging you did

[buoyant matrix]

absolute banger

[devout abyss]

im quite experienced

i wonder if we fight god in silksong

[buoyant matrix]

depends, does pharloom have a god

[hearty trout]

as much as ppl trash the Unseen card, its pretty helpful when my gain boon is Born Gain

[devout abyss]

oh no bro

[hearty trout]

im using the staff upgrade that lets you double hit, but costs 5 mana

also i have posiedon on my attack, a 96% chaos boon and Arterial Srpay, so its pretty fun uwu

[snow palm]

Update yet

[indigo cypress]

Dawg just get Cardio Gain 💔

[cosmic basin]

Is it a bug that the auto-harvest incantation doesn't work on the items you can collect in Tartarus at 10+ fear? I feel like it probably isn't, but since Selene points them out as resources, it feels like it should gather them as long as you meet the fear requirement

[devout abyss]

not a bug

[indigo cypress]

It might be an oversight tho, doesn't really make sense why those don't autocollect

Wouldn't be suprised if they add it if ppl feedback it

[devout abyss]

to be the fair the incantation is from Gaia, and those resources aren't exactly natural

[hearty trout]

i dont have hestia tonight :( only apollo, pos, ares and hera

[cosmic basin]

Mkay. Only lost out on witch's delight so far and they're already useless to me, so nothing pressing

[indigo cypress]

Flood Gain is glitched w Mirrored Thrasher where it lets you use x2 attack at 0 magic

[hearty trout]

👀 huh

[indigo cypress]

Well ig idk if it's a glitch

Maybe that's how they intended it to work but I doubt it

Also Grisly Gain def better than Born Gain if you're gonna use grasp on Unseen anyways

[uncut galleon]

when you have primed magic, does that count as always having less than 100% magic for the huntress arcana?

[limpid oar]

Magick left after priming becomes your new 100%

I feel like with how often this is being asked this should be clarified in-game

[uncut galleon]

sad

[indigo cypress]

feedback! feedback! feedback! . . .

[uncut galleon]

so when i do mel staff with dash strike + special, how do i get in omega attacks to activate the huntress?

feels like it's not really possible without tanking hits?

[limpid oar]

Just send an ospec before you charge into the enemies, send it into the air, 10 magick spent, huntress active

Alternatively finish wave 1 of enemies without huntress active and use some fast omega between waves

[uncut galleon]

ah, that makes sense. maybe my mistake was taking aphro gain then haha

[limpid oar]

Yeahh if you want huntress active on aspects that don't omega a whole lot, you have to be careful with clicking a gain

[spiral isle]

anyone got a link for the black coat guide? I swear there was one, but searches aren't giving me anything... not sure what happened?

[limpid oar]

#h2-feedback message

[dawn marsh]

am i crazy or hecate seems the hardest on high fear

im trying 50 fear and when i get past hecate it gets much easier

[humble urchin]

erebus in general (including hecate) is very known to be an issue when it comes to timer

[sleek oar]

Guys i have a potentially stupid question

Can frinos familiar be used as a replacement for persistance? Cause i know people use persistance almost all the time, but i kinda wanted to turn it off, but im bad

But im wonderign if the extra magic that comes with it is like super useful

If i dont predominently play heavy magic builds

[limpid oar]

Idk if it's the hardest but it's definitely the first roadblock of high fear right now. There are still plentiful challenges later on, but I feel like if you learn Hecate then you should have the skill to learn them

[hearty trout]

So ive started a new save file to make sure i dont run my enjoyment of this game into the ground before its even finished

One of the saddest things about hades 1 is… after i completed most of the story bits, got max hearts with everyone, reunited with persephone, reuinted achilles and patroclus and orpheus and eurydice and exhausted all the dialogue to generic greetings, it felt like the game had finished its lifespan for me

And i dont wanna run into that wall with hades 2… thats partially why i waited until like this week to get it lol

[limpid oar]

How many hours did it take you to complete all that in h1?

I'd say there's nothing wrong in finishing everything there is to do (or everything you're interested in) in a game and moving on. Don't be sad because it's over, be happy because it happened ❤️

[fading knoll]

hecate is probs tied easiest with Cerb imo

probably easier tbh Cerb can have some rough ahhh patterns

atleast for UW
Poly and Eris are miles easier than anything in UW 😭

[toxic beacon]

Eris still a chump for running away from all my shots

She may be easy but she aint fun at all

[junior hollow]

just 100 percent hades and got hades 2 just wanted to ask whats the difference between going up and down?

[polar abyss]

In terms of the broader scale; Surface is harder than Underworld, but Surface gives you the chance to setup your ‘perfect’ build in the very first area (Ephyra).

[toxic beacon]

Ones better than the other (bias)

I think you unlock hera by going surface so theres that

[junior hollow]

is the boss at the end the same?

[polar abyss]

At Surface, enemies will hit harder, and will be tougher. But Mel will generally have more resources on Surface than UW

[toxic beacon]

Also obviously resources from each is different, for aspects or incantations later down the line

[polar abyss]

No. And each boss is unique

[junior hollow]

alright I think ill go to the surface cause ive been stuck in the underworld for the pass 80 hours in hades 1

[toxic beacon]

Shrine of hermes vs well of charon is notable
Shrine lets you buy items that will be delivered in a couple encounters, rather than immediately like the well ( or pay an extra cost for the insta delivery )

[junior hollow]

alright thanks

[toxic beacon]

Less chaos ( the character ) if thats relevant

[hearty trout]

True,,, its like the whole message of Undertale too lol

But it rrally struck me when i tried to go back to my mostly complete save file after two years, and i was immediately struck by how lifeless i felt playing…

[humble urchin]

no way you were able to 100% the game in 80 hours? wow

[junior hollow]

by 100 percent i mean only the steam achievements

theres like 1 more legendary boon and the spear weapon aspect i have to go to hades with (i hate spear) but I really wanted to get hades 2 before I spoil it

my whole fyp right now is hades 2

[tranquil wren]

guan yu is op

[icy umbra]

Hey I just realized I haven't seen Psyche be offered in a chamber for my last 10 runs. Is that by design?

[limpid oar]

I think so yes

[icy umbra]

Is it because my grasp is maxed? Or did an update remove psyche as a reward entirely? Cause I remember getting plus 5 magick for claiming it

[frank mulch]

yeah psyche is no longer a room reward

[icy umbra]

So bones give the extra Magick now?

[frank mulch]

you can get it in other way and it was a very small amount i guess?

[frank mulch]

the incantation probably says that, if so

[icy umbra]

thanks, can't wait for 1.0 to come out

Already put 200 hours in this alpha into two save files

[humble urchin]

yeah bones give max magick and ashes give health

the way to get psyche in runs is now only through pacifying lost shades

[polar abyss]

I did it!

Mel Blades 62 UW done

No TK at all

[sleek oar]

Lets gooo

Now do pan

[polar abyss]

And supposedly, it is the record.

[sleek oar]

Slash jay slash jay

[polar abyss]

Well Pan already has a 67

Kind of. It’s seeded.

[humble urchin]

seeded* 67

[polar abyss]

Here’s what I’ll say. Thermal Dynamics came in clutch against Cerberus, and Chronos. But the real MVP in my opinion is Static Shock.

It breezed through Erebus like I had never seen before

[humble urchin]

iirc the seed only needed TK, so technically with enough resets you could attain it unseeded, just might be a grind

[polar abyss]

Also, I got Lunar Ray shield spam for Chronos, allowing me to survive some big damage hits to sprinkle damage in against Timer

[buoyant matrix]

ayo what was the build

[polar abyss]

In theory, Artemis and Pan can do the same thing, but theirs will have to be different (obviously).
Pan trades high inconsistent damage of Backstabs for consistency with Specials (probably a worse tradeoff), and Artemis trades the backstabs for the parry, which I guess is some nice survivability

[polar abyss]

I started with a Blue Zeus Special, and aimed for Trick Knives thermal dynamics, but never got the full combo. Instead, I got Static Shock for the early game, and Thermal Dynamics late game.

[buoyant matrix]

so hestia attack with zeus special?

[polar abyss]

Yes

[buoyant matrix]

interesting 🤔

[polar abyss]

Though my first Hestia boon was Cast

[buoyant matrix]

vod when?!

[polar abyss]

Uh… eventually. Might want to make a better custom thumbnail than my 50F Circe. And I have two previous 62s I haven’t published yet

[buoyant matrix]

oh damn

[polar abyss]

**the two 62s being Circe and Mel Staff

[buoyant matrix]

well this 62 is a record so it should take priority

[polar abyss]

True

[buoyant matrix]

there's already a staffillion circe and mel staff 62s but no mel blades!!

[polar abyss]

Honestly, I think I need to change my opinion of Mel Blades. Like… is it the second best blade?

I.e. can Mel Blades do a seeded 67 also?

**and easier than Pan

[merry whale]

👁️

[polar abyss]

Like everybody loves Pan, but like… is the special following casted enemies better than the extra damage of Backstabs?

Because the other benefit of the OSpecial I imagine is not used at all

Anyway, idk how much effort I’ll try to put into the thumbnail, but maybe I’ll get it uploaded on YT (and possibly Crossroads) within a few hours

Also, now that I’m thinking about it… I genuinely wonder how many more of the weapons I can do at 62.

We’ve all had this perspective that Mel Blades is uh… bad. So I’ll see how far I can go

Still not touching 65 though. Or 67

The one weakness I feel I have is Axes. I can’t even do Nergal 50

[buoyant matrix]

use Lisa's super easy 50 setup for nergal

https://youtu.be/EejnbY7VQL4?si=0nImk_009hgJ7E3b

[polar abyss]

Oh… I see.

Why is Return not one of the vows used?

Like if it’s UW, I feel I’d prefer Return + Hordes over Onion.

**I guess it’s a preference.

[raven perch]

Where did Lisa go I miss em 😔

[polar abyss]

Something something, personal issues. That’s what I was told / saw

Better not to speculate imo. Just hopeful that they will be doing better soon.

Anyway, I am actually nearly done with setting the 62 Mel Blades video up. Just need to finalize this thumbnail

I’ll probably set it as a Premiere on YT (just for the suspense). But I’m not doing any commentary unless it (or myself) gets popular

[raven perch]

Aw I hope things go well for them

[merry whale]

i personally only put in very minimal commentary if i find a moment might appear strange in a vid

like my 62f mel flame run, i added one commentary line about me rerolling an onion door in fields

i wasted a reroll cuz i was dumb

[polar abyss]

I feel like the only explanation I’d need to give is the Renewed Faith setup. I deliberately lost 2 DDs to Cerberus, and 1 in Tartarus to aim for it

I know that it was risky, but it paid off imo

[merry whale]

o yea i had a similar setup in the same flames run lol, nice

it makes sense cuz u do risk saving a dd and waiting for athena later, but it pays off by lowering chance of dropping a dd by chronos

[polar abyss]

Oh wait. There is also Experimental Hammer.

[merry whale]

i still dropped a dd by chronos

[polar abyss]

That was just fishing for TK

Never got it, but the run was still generally clean regardless aside from P1 Chronos

[merry whale]

hammer seems funny on blades/axe cuz u do lower the chance of getting a hammer u don't want but u also risk getting dancing knives or that single slam axe

[polar abyss]

Oh. I took Dancing Knives to 62

[merry whale]

o cracked

[polar abyss]

Static Shock + Thermal Dynamics is nuts

That’s all I gotta say before I actually publish it (still working on the thumbnail)

[merry whale]

ye thermal and static are really good rn

[potent relic]

Any reason I am getting an error trying to add the h2 feedback role to myself to access and post in that channel?

[polar abyss]

Dyno (the bot that would give said role) is currently ‘dead’ / nonfunctional

[potent relic]

Ah. Bummer.

For people who have been here longer. Has there been any thoughts or feedback around

1. letting menus loop so if you scroll all the way down or up it loops to the other end

2. allowing us to view all god boons while in a boon pick screen instead of just that god

[toxic hedge]

Imagine Supergiant Games shadowdrop release date for Hades 2 on Pax west whenever it is

[polar abyss]

I believe Yes, and definitely Yes.

[potent relic]

Cool

[dire sand]

Sept 5th clearly

[buoyant matrix]

y'know at my current skill level i can probably reach the credits in less than 5 hours, i just don't want it to be near silkopuim because i know it will hurt their sales badly

[rapid osprey]

we should all collectively agree to play on a minimum of 50 fear when 1.0 is out so no one rushes the ending

[limpid oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/643387867833565184/1411743976217776301/2025083.JPG?ex=68b5c488&is=68b47308&hm=721df334efa96790b3ef94d64266b1fe4a04369551097be4e1af073ea000d258& chat i still got this one in the bag right??

[tranquil wren]

I can barely beat typhon on 0F

[raven perch]

I will break that agreement, rush the ending, and spoil You and You alone

[tranquil wren]

I'm so interested to see how they'll make the ending

[buoyant matrix]

I'm dropping everything except frenzy2

[tranquil wren]

I'm guessing both routes will lead to the same ending, but how

[polar abyss]

Totally. You’ll find Renewed Faith and some form of Healing somehow.

[raven perch]

No you need to do both to get the ending

[tranquil wren]

oh right

I did not know that, makes sense though

[buoyant matrix]

one thing I'm curious about is whether they'll be adding more dialogue for turning UR chronos on or off

zag and dad had a good few lines about em4

but here chronos only acknowledges it once and they never discuss it again??

[raven perch]

I hope they talk more about Babality actually

[polar abyss]

What would really be cool, is if Chronos commented on ||turning off Vow of Rivals 4 after defeating regular Typhon instead the previous run||

[raven perch]

People should be reacting to Mel being baby-moded

[tranquil wren]

baby mode?

[raven perch]

Babality

[limpid oar]

There should be a chaos trial where you play as baby Mel for an entire run

[raven perch]

She gets turned into a child in the Rivals Typhon fight

[tranquil wren]

lol what

[raven perch]

Yeah

[tranquil wren]

you deal less damage and take more damage, I guess?

[raven perch]

Nope you don’t do any damage and you are forced to avoid attacks

<@&456908176877551658>

[buoyant matrix]

yeah it was really funny for me the first time

[limpid oar]

guys my free crypto wallet got deleted what happened

[fleet sentinel]

Guys is it just me or the weapons stink ?

[buoyant matrix]

mods took all the money for themselves

[fleet sentinel]

I only like the base staff and the axe

[buoyant matrix]

it's just you buddy 😔

[rapid osprey]

just you

[fleet sentinel]

How are you supposed to play with the torches

[raven perch]

They are kinda smelly

[tranquil wren]

what the hell

[sleek oar]

Maybe you should try to wash the weapons

[buoyant matrix]

omega special

[polar abyss]

You need to specify which torch, because they all play differently imo

[limpid oar]

I think the skull stinks, it's literally a head of some dead lady

[lost wing]

@shy belfry #h2-feedback message

And regarding Pan, at least the code does not say they have an internal cooldown with Poseidon.

The ICD isn't in the weapon trait file. It's in the Poseidon file. It's an ICD on specific boons themselves.

[tranquil wren]

refunding hades 2 for being stinky

[buoyant matrix]

you can always watch some high fear gameplay

[raven perch]

Medea aspect is a bit weird

[buoyant matrix]

well I'm gonna refund YOU for being stinky huh how about that

[fleet sentinel]

Anyways if Silksong doesn’t improve its combat like hades 2 improved on 1 then I’m going to be so disappointed

[polar abyss]

Yeah, but there is spoilers for Rival fights if they care about that

[tranquil wren]

[raven perch]

What’s there to be improved

[sleek oar]

Mel goes to the hot springs sometimes, unlike zag, i dont think hes seen a normal shower in years

[limpid oar]

also the fact that in both Hades games the protagonist is barefoot is so unhygienic 😔

[buoyant matrix]

it already seems much faster and deeper from the teasers

[raven perch]

Zag bathes every time he dies, Mel only showers if someone is with her

[fleet sentinel]

Add a bit more depth , the trailers look good though

[sleek oar]

Does the blood bath count

[raven perch]

Yes because it’s not blood technically

[tranquil wren]

mel has a sand bath before chronos

[buoyant matrix]

chat i just realized
hades, zag and mel all have glowing feet
chronos also has glowing feet
so can we infer that this is a family trait and poseidon and zeus have glowing feet as well??! 🦶

[raven perch]

It’s red water

Sand bath? Mel’s not a chinchilla

[fleet sentinel]

Screw this fucking rat

[buoyant matrix]

i sent this like 2 days ago

[raven perch]

Probably!

[fleet sentinel]

He’s a run ender

[raven perch]

I don’t like the emoji

[limpid oar]

also let's be real Oceanus is one massive bath for Mel, she's taking care of herself

[raven perch]

Oceanus is saltwater

[buoyant matrix]

"at least my feet are clean"

[polar abyss]

When do we get the bathing scene with Mel and Scylla?

[raven perch]

Mel would get eaten.

[buoyant matrix]

scylla will be singing the credits song, probably then

[sleek oar]

They become friends and go swimming in oceanus

[raven perch]

Her feet that are made of fire btw

[fleet sentinel]

90 percent of the budget went for Scylla’s theme

[polar abyss]

Where did the other 10% go?

[raven perch]

Aetos

[rapid osprey]

I want scylla to eat me

[fleet sentinel]

The goddess of beauty

[limpid oar]

the entirety of Hades 2 is just advertisement for the Scylla and the Sirens world tour Supergiant Games has been working on before they thought of making a Hades sequel

[fleet sentinel]

Not complaining tho

[polar abyss]

Aetos’s vision? Or all the money is just stored in Aetos’s living space?

[raven perch]

VORE

[raven perch]

They just gave it to him

[polar abyss]

Understandable

[sleek oar]

So true, im waiting for my tickets 🤧

[raven perch]

He held them at gun point

[polar abyss]

Anyway, the thumbnail is done, so I’ll set my Mel Blades 62 attempt to premiere in 7 minutes. (So then it’s at a 30 on the hour for everyone)

[crude dragon]

Just get Stalwart EZ

[dire frigate]

If we got a three way with Thanatos and Meg in the first game, does that mean Moros will host an orgy in his pocket dimension at some point?

[raven perch]

Stalwart Shell? It’s a bad charm

[raven perch]

No

[oak ivy]

No!

[sleek oar]

No

[buoyant matrix]

shaman stone my beloved 🥰

[raven perch]

You need to die/close to death to be in his little pocket dimension

[oak ivy]

I can't believe silksong is in 4 days!!!!!

[rapid osprey]

steady body lowkey best charm

[raven perch]

Let’s all die!!!

[buoyant matrix]

schilk shlong

[rapid osprey]

solksing

[sleek oar]

Permanent trip to erebus?

[raven perch]

Songing silk

[oak ivy]

Silk and song!!!

[rapid osprey]

milkmong

[sleek oar]

Love milk

[raven perch]

Mongering the milk

[oak ivy]

Almond silk

[rapid osprey]

Skim song

[raven perch]

Slim slong

[sleek oar]

Shady song

[oak ivy]

Nvm

[rapid osprey]

milk schlong

[rocky lava]

Any day now I can feel the full release any day now

[raven perch]

Lilac come back

[oak ivy]

[sleek oar]

Any november day now

[rapid osprey]

november 2026 confirmed

[oak ivy]

Silksong hype is starting to overshadow any hades hype I had before 😔

[rapid osprey]

same

[oak ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-basketball-ice-dunk-hornet-gif-3999940650987546913

[rapid osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-hollowknight-gif-13824312416185164655

[raven perch]

Me too beforr I was like “1.0 better come out Yesterday” and now I’m like “I hope I don’t see Zag’s face until Thursday the 20th”

[oak ivy]

Same im now hoping for an October release hahaha 🙏

[sleek oar]

😞😞 i want to see zag’s face yestderday

[shy belfry]

Ahhh so pan still had the ICD huh, my bad then; thank you for correcting that piece of unintentional misinfo, truly

[raven perch]

I hope we never see him

[sleek oar]

😦

Why do you hope this

[oak ivy]

Chronos put zagreus in the silksong timeline!!

[raven perch]

For as much as I love my son I do get a bit annoyed whenever people make H2 all about when they’re going to see Zag again

[rapid osprey]

I hope zag is dead

or worse

[raven perch]

Me too

It’s not about him!!!

[sleek oar]

Ehh fair actually, i think a lot of ppl are maybe too hyped abt him

[oak ivy]

Yeah...

[rapid osprey]

I hope zag stays frozen in chronos' gooner cave forever

[oak ivy]

Something makes me feel ppl wouldn't feel the same way if the situation was reversed too...

[raven perch]

Well dont say that

[buoyant matrix]

remember that mel is going to wake up hypnos and kill chronos with his help then free thanatos and bury zagreus then marry hypnos and live happily ever after

[rapid osprey]

wait thats too far

[raven perch]

It’s just misogyny a bit yeah

[polar abyss]

Ok, I decided not to do premiere. Anyone who wants to see the Mel Blades 62 video can skip to any point, as it’s uploaded right now. I’ll stop messaging about it now.

[raven perch]

Hey spoilers!!

[oak ivy]

It really does feel like that 😔

[sleek oar]

Lowkey a bit yes

[oak ivy]

How does hornet factor into all of this?

[rapid osprey]

I hope at least hornet is immune to misogyny

[buoyant matrix]

i genuinely think zag and the old house of hades gang will have nearly no role in the ending, except nyx of course

[oak ivy]

She seems to be so far!?? But it's weird because she is a bug character after all

[raven perch]

I hope Nyx is important she f-in better be

[lost wing]

idk, I'm definitely going to be firing up H1 modded to play as Mel at some point if that mod exists

[buoyant matrix]

hornet is canonically super racist in the lore don't worry 👍

[raven perch]

Dude have you see all the Hornet r34??? Yeah man she’s a victim of misogyny

[sleek oar]

Isnt hornet a bug or something

[oak ivy]

Those Brief dialogues from her are so ominous!!!!! Sgg better pay it off!!!!

[rapid osprey]

I can already picture some ppl saying "omg hornet is such an insufferable girlboss. The knight was so sigma"

[buoyant matrix]

half bug half god

[raven perch]

Oh god

[rapid osprey]

and why do YOU know so much about hornet r34?????

[raven perch]

Because I’ve been a Hollow Knight fan for like 6 years now

I know my people 😔

[oak ivy]

I was gonna ask this too because I didn't know any of that 😭

[sleek oar]

People love to do thisss, its so goddamn annoying. Any female characters with any agency get marked off as annoying and rude

[raven perch]

You cannot explore any HK fandom tag without encountering it I’m afraid

[oak ivy]

They are NOT your people, meow 😔

[rapid osprey]

I'm a hk fan too but hornet r34 seems a bit too far

[raven perch]

Dude there is a whole subreddit dedicated to HK r34 😭

It’s notorious

[sleek oar]

WHY IS THERE R34 OF BUGS 😭

[raven perch]

don’t kinkshame !

[rapid osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-dance-gif-23861627

[raven perch]

Have you seen flukemarm

[sleek oar]

I fear i will for this

[neon isle]

i dont think porn existing is misogyny tbh

[dire frigate]

People really liked Kafka's metamorphosis

[neon isle]

people are misogynistic about hornet for other reasons

[sleek oar]

HELP

[raven perch]

Not inherently but think of the ways in which women get objectified and dehumanized for porn

Anyway this is verging out of appropriate territory

[buoyant matrix]

guys why did we reach from silksong hype to the dehumanizing of women in porn 😭

can the conversation turn back

[neon isle]

yeah but i think that really depends on how you as a person are consuming it/how its produced and its a slippery slope to censorship

but yeah we can move on

[rapid osprey]

the only hk r34 I will except is of carmelita the ant queen (and zote the mighty ofc)

[raven perch]

We live in a patriarchal society wherein misogyny is ever present

[tranquil wren]

I HATE ZOTE

[buoyant matrix]

well zote hates you too huh how about that

[tranquil wren]

he's never not hated me so nothing has changed

[raven perch]

My favourite HK character is a tossup between the PK and Ghost but my HK blorbo is Tiso 😔

[rapid osprey]

zote is a tsundere trust

[raven perch]

I like the annoying characters with an air of tragedy to em what can I say 😔

[neon isle]

im gonna put zote in a basket and float him down the river

[tranquil wren]

lol

[raven perch]

Don’t he’ll become the prince of egypt

[neon isle]

shoot

[oak ivy]

quirrel though!! ❤️

[rapid osprey]

for anyone who knows the lore of hk well, I feel like PK has to be among the favorites. The whole world is basically built on that one character

[raven perch]

I like quirrel! But PK and Ghost just intrigue me more. Quirrel is a strong 3rd though

[tranquil wren]

he killed hundreds of his children though 🥀

[raven perch]

So what

[tranquil wren]

killing you

[buoyant matrix]

medea killed her children too huh how about that

[rapid osprey]

I love the pure vessels story so much. I wanna hug the poor guy

[tranquil wren]

she's a girlboss your honour

[neon isle]

quirrel has one of the best fanfictions ever

[raven perch]

But yeah the entire kingdom of Hallownest is haunted by the Pale King’s presence, the entire point of Hollow Knight the game is Ghost rediscovering their heritage and origins, which includes growing to understand their father

[neon isle]

hes just a tragic character

[raven perch]

Stag Beetles and Broken Legs!!! I love that fic

Lemmquirrel is so good

Relic Seeker x Living Relic

Lionflame kinda remind me of em

[neon isle]

me when the characters are used as tools

[neon isle]

oh for sure

[rapid osprey]

I was looking back thru all the skong trailers and my god the combat looks so fun. It also seems like hornet can equip things to change her moveset? I'm so fking hyped

[raven perch]

Crotchety old fellers except I kinda like to perceive Heracles as a really grizzly 20 something

[raven perch]

No spoilers!!

[rapid osprey]

trailers are spoilers?

[raven perch]

Yes

I don’t want to know anythinggg

[neon isle]

i think waxwitch could also be about unlearning being a tool but mels not 600 yrs old

[rapid osprey]

you mean to tell me you havent seen a single trailer in your 6 years of waiting for skong??? you're stronger than me

[buoyant matrix]

silksong will reportedly include content at launch

[oak ivy]

Your nickname is meow!

[raven perch]

NOOO

[sleek oar]

Silksong is allegedly a game

Is all i know fr

[rapid osprey]

I hear the game will feature silk and song

[raven perch]

Actually something I enjoy about waxwitch is that Icarus is a bit of an enabler

[sleek oar]

Song? Like the thing scylla produces?

[rapid osprey]

silk? like arachne????

[neon isle]

oh youre so right actually

i do think icarus also makes mel act up more though

[raven perch]

Icarus actively contributes to Mel’s living weapon-ness, he doesn’t challenge her on that very much at all

[sleek oar]

Omg silksong is a hades spinoff

[raven perch]

He does! I think of it as, while Eris actively challenges Mel to rethink her situation, Icarus makes Mel want to push beyond the boundaries of her ‘programming’ per se

[rapid osprey]

hornet and mel collab when?

[neon isle]

hornet and mel are both similar levels of locked in to me

[raven perch]

Hornet is more locked in

Mel takes breaks and has fun and makes friends Hornet kills all her siblings

[rapid osprey]

mel accepts all the kisses while hornet takes NONE

[raven perch]

Hornet is badass

Mel is my scrungly daughter

[neon isle]

mel is also badass 😔

[rapid osprey]

true

[raven perch]

True! But she’s also cute

[neon isle]

i like to imagine little fight scenes whenever i beat chronos

thats true... uppy......

[raven perch]

Kibby…

[rapid osprey]

also hornet might be an old lady considering she has been alive since the fall of hallownest

maybe longer

[raven perch]

I don’t thinks so

[neon isle]

i like to think it wasnt that long ago