The Gear Set Ups on the three Vanguards that i am running
#Gear on my Vanguards
vagrant lodge
Guam wants an evasion aux, SG is🚮
vagrant lodge
VH is not the worst thing at this point but dual eva or eva with toolkit safer in general
fresh seal
anchorage should be tanking instead of non-mlb guam tbh
So i should swap the twos spots?
vagrant lodge
also just give Laffey another HP aux don't use HPAAR
fresh seal
also just give Laffey another HP aux don't use HPAAR
Like Pearls Tears?
native rune
anything that +hp
vagrant lodge
if in doubt 2 tookits, Laffey doesn't need/want rudder
honestly only Anchorage is properly geared of those 3
native rune
my personal fave for laff2
vagrant lodge
don't enhance random gear past 10, twin 127 not worth it
fresh seal
my personal fave for laff2
I put that and Pearls Tears on laffey
fresh seal
don't enhance random gear past 10, twin 127 not worth it
Yeah, i realized that after doing it once or twice
native rune
pearl's tears can work though personally i find it a waste since she will almost never sink
to get that heal out of it
vagrant lodge
pearl generally not great for campaign because you don't want ships to sink at all
native rune
^ that as well
fresh seal
pearl generally not great for campaign because you don't want ships to sink at a...
fair
native rune
it usually has more use on say, helena or sirius
vagrant lodge
anyway, rudder/toolkit for Anchorage, EDC/toolkit for Laffey should do for now
vagrant lodge
not MLB Guam not optimal but should survive 11
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max limit break
fresh seal
also all gear you use hereon should be +10
one i get the purple plates i will have them upgraded to max. my second fleet is hurting more in the Vanguard level department, so it has most of my level 10 stuff
Out of curiosity, how much of a difference is there between a PvP and Campaign build?
fresh seal
ahh, thank you
acoustic wasp
@fresh seal just do it here
acoustic wasp
welp, unzen shimanto are underleveled..
waxen portal
You're having trouble pushing 13 with that?
fresh seal
welp, unzen shimanto are underleveled..
yeah, i am working on them
acoustic wasp
is shimanto even FS5?
fresh seal
You're having trouble pushing 13 with that?
Pushing past 11, getting ready to start 12
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Pushing past 11, getting ready to start 12
You can auto 12 with decent purples and poverty gear
fresh seal
is shimanto even FS5?
Dev Level 29 (310/400)
acoustic wasp
aight
fresh seal
had spare Multi Prints, shes now FS2
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Just grab your 125's and breeze through 13. You might need to make some changes to clear after 13, but until then you can click the auto button and sleep as long as your AA is fine
fresh seal
how do i tell when a ship is a good tank vs DPS?
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how do i tell when a ship is a good tank vs DPS?
Generally by reading the abilities and checking their HP stat
Heavy cruisers are also more likely to main tank, in general
You have LF2 and Guam, who are 2 of the best in the game
fresh seal
so i should have the First Fleet be Anchorage, Laffey II, and a DPS. 2nd Fleet be Guam, Unzen, and another tank?
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Anchorage in a fleet with Either Guam or Laffey is redundant because you don't need 2 main tanks
native rune
anchorage + someone + laff2 off tank
guam + someone + unzen off tank
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It's a ship that is still tanky but not as tanky as the main tank
It's the top vanguard position
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Kind of. It's a support or DPS slot
You put something there that isn't super tanky, but has a really strong effect
fresh seal
who would you recomend for those spots?
fresh seal
You put something there that isn't super tanky, but has a really strong effect
Helena is the only one that comes to mind there
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It depends on the stage. For instance, worlds 12 and 13 need more AA, so San Diego Retro + Aug is very strong
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Helena is the only one that comes to mind there
Helena Retro is a good middle slot for bossing
This includes campaign boss fleets
fresh seal
so run fleet 1 as my boss fleet and fleet 2 with Sandy for the smaller fleets?
acoustic wasp
this is what i suggest
fresh seal
Fleet 1 with Helena
acoustic wasp
works for w12 and 13
get levels on w12 before going into w13
i find your lack of useable BB concerning...
fresh seal
i have Musashi and New jersey
acoustic wasp
your NJ isn't even mlb
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Have you developed FDG yet?
fresh seal
it wouldnt be hard for me to, i have a copy of NJ just need to get a bulin
acoustic wasp
just save it, new UR coming
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Don't spend UR Bulin until after we see the new ship
acoustic wasp
you should use good gold SR BB like Owari instead
fresh seal
Have you developed FDG yet?
yes, just the 2nd Data Collection left
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yes, just the 2nd Data Collection left
Time to start grinding W 12 then
fresh seal
my issue is a lack of German Mains
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my issue is a lack of German Mains
TBH I bit the bullet and used crappy IB CVs
We're talking purples
acoustic wasp
in the future, invest in Volga, Sirius, Eldridge if you have her retrofit item
fresh seal
Odin is still Dev Level 9, and my next 3 highest are Tirpitz, Bismarck, and Lutzow
fresh seal
in the future, invest in Volga, Sirius, Eldridge if you have her retrofit item
I have Eldridge, just no Retrofit item, shes 100 aswell
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I have Eldridge, just no Retrofit item, shes 100 aswell
Do you do your hard mode stages?
fresh seal
Do you do your hard mode stages?
will from now forward
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will from now forward
Make sure you click the missions tab and do the missions for 3*ing them. Here is a guide for cheesing it so it only takes one attempt per. https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips#hard_mode_cheese
fresh seal
try and get kazagumo from DD medal shop
Obtained
acoustic wasp
good, then raise the 4 when you're done with w12 and/or w13
fresh seal
Make sure you click the missions tab and do the missions for 3*ing them. Here is...
thats funny, why didnt i think of it
I do have Sirius up to 70
fresh seal
i find your lack of useable BB concerning...
Which BBs are usable btw?
acoustic wasp
mlb your owari, use her
she can flag for your w12, take the chance to raise her
kick off essex, move enterprise to off, owari flag
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Also please make sure enty is boss fleet like we talked about in main thread
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lmao true
acoustic wasp
moving enterprise there is useless
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For some reason I forgot this guy is stacked
fresh seal
kick off essex, move enterprise to off, owari flag
My first fleet is Ticon, Musashi, Essex. second fleet is Hakruyuu, Amagi CV, Shinano
waxen portal
Kick Essex. She is one of your worst main fleet ships
acoustic wasp
here, follow this
forget about your hakuryuu, forget about ticon essex
if your ships aren't max limit break, don't use them
as simple as that
there's only a few exceptions like agir plymouth, but generally non-MLB=garbage
acoustic wasp
15 can tank easier content, 25 can fully tank
fresh seal
here, follow this
I do not have great gear, but will try and match this
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Read this. https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment
acoustic wasp
i'll make budget friendly version then, gimme a few mins
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It will answer basically any gear questions you have
fresh seal
here, follow this
Is the top Vanguard the lead, or the bottom?
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Vanguard are the 3 ships you see on your screen while playing
fresh seal
wait, i see the numbers, i am dumb
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Main fleet 3 back ships
fresh seal
meant in the image, which ship was leading the formation
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Ahhhh, I see
fresh seal
My Carrier Gear
acoustic wasp
"holyfuck im poor" version
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"holyfuck im poor" version
Still better than half the AA guns I use LMAO
acoustic wasp
use hellcats if you dont have flapjack
fresh seal
BB
acoustic wasp
use the 113
you can do this, all 113
will work
you're pretty much there... your gear are fine
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use the 113
BTW for general off-tank, would you rec. dropping Roon, Kitakaze or Mainz?
acoustic wasp
if you have someone better
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Sorry, I mean pick 2 to keep, drop 1
acoustic wasp
cant recommend without context
fresh seal
Would you still recomend Unicorn if her skills arent leveled?
acoustic wasp
yes, she's basically your main healer from day 1 until day 19999999999999999
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Would you still recomend Unicorn if her skills arent leveled?
She needs to be retro, but yes
acoustic wasp
start leveling her skill
fresh seal
She needs to be retro, but yes
she is
fresh seal
The only 3 ships that are carrying over, are thier build good for the time being?
acoustic wasp
no
fresh seal
I do not have the Black Shell thing
acoustic wasp
buy them from Core Data
fresh seal
and the stuff that isnt leveled i will level up as i get the plates
fresh seal
buy them from Core Data
yeah, as i told Papa a while ago, i forgot Hard mode was a thing for three or so years, i got no core data atm
acoustic wasp
then use purple ones
fresh seal
other then that, what would you change?
acoustic wasp
i posted two different version of them, idk why you can't follow them
they are all obtainable from tech boxes
except that beacon
just use another steam catapult
fresh seal
out of curiosity, why stick with the purple Dive bombers and Catapults?
acoustic wasp
because helldiver is your 2nd or 3rd best dive bomber
better ones include Tenrai or Skyraider
you have one tenrai. put it on amagi
this DB is absolutely garbage
fresh seal
and the Catapults?
acoustic wasp
steam catapult gives the highest AVI for CV
they are Best in Slot most of the time
you won't find any CV not carrying at least 1 steam catapult
except in PVP
also words of advice, don't enhance your gear beyond +10 randomly
acoustic wasp
this DB is absolutely garbage
you wasted your gold plates on this DB already
fresh seal
did that back when the BTD was my favorite WWII Aircraft. three years ago me was a special case