#HVAR nolifer megathread
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with how events are timed out in azure, reruns just let you breathe for a bit before the next UR ship. I have about 6 reruns of breathing room so im thankful for that
are you a proper azur lane superfan if you don't go 110% in every event
what if you 200% one event and 0 the other
i dont complete the points ladder in every event...
220% maybe
last yk2 event burned my oil reserves for over a year lol
i think i got to 85-90k in rumey
100k is actually kinda hard to hit if you dont preload a bunch of oils, do low costing, or steal some from storage
i was going to stop at 30 but there is a certain someone who pushed me to 55k 
I got 90k in rumey as well since 2nd z52 and bps and gear skins
yeah
imo 55k is overrated if you're not active in gph
bet i'll clear 100k for this one tho
the ladder doesnt go past 50k no?
i mean gold plates are nice
cause that means you're casual
oh yeah true
shame
the one time i definitely guarantee 100k+ on full costing event
do yall play on bluestacks or just a phone?
100k easy on events like tempesta/collab but for 267 oil d3s its much harder
I'm playing on iphone and ipad
bluestacks 
bluestacks make it too easy to do computer work and just remember to repeat sortie or change a team every 2 hours
i agree tbh
gold plate nice but it's not exactly essential, while 30k is much more important for the bulin
tho i view it as if you need more than 30k from the shop then the next good stopping point is 55k
On that topic, has anyone just been doing 1:1 but switching out different ships. I've been rotating between 3 CV ships and a random UR vanguard cause moral juggling is annoying and i want to finish this event asap
ive been doing 1:1 0 morale 0 affinity
yeah I'm switching out different ships, but I have 12 dorm slot so idk
MANUAL?!
i m using 4 fleets because i have 8 dorm slots
its 2 clicks every 30s

to each their own but i wouldnt be able to stand it
you've more patience than me in spades
tbh if you have a good cross fleet you dont really have to do anything even in manual mode
i mean not being able to autosearch
its easier than switching out fleets imo
how much bps are yall at
17/99
im at 5
49-25 from freebie
nice lol, ive only gotten 12 but ive been grinding all day
all 3 fleets are sleeping now so ill do opsi or something ig
4, 14, 38, 66, 25, 25 morales
who is dying 
that 4/14 is kinda sus
probably because switching2
and theyre all desynced bc ive been using multiple different combos to preserve morale instead of 3 fixed rotations


yea ngl the limitation is obviously oil
and probably morale if you are a productive person
we all have no life??
I mean I know some people definitely won't spend 6 hours a day for a week minmaxing and thinking and asking in gph just for some BiS light armor plane that's not even that useful outside of low reward single target boss fight
apparently I did my hvar calc wrong
The correct one is I only have 22 prints so far, 10 from milestone, and 12 from drop. I have 16770 points right now, which I should be able to calculate the amount of run I did
turns out it is not that easy, I thought 6 hours per day without HECLP would be enough, it would probably need 8 at this point
im at 34k and 25 drops pretty much 14% rate
done with 1 
i am 22/25

nah you cant there's lots of missionslol
drop rate so ass fr
what fleets u guys using for hvar farm
my boss fleet is low on morale wtf

60-70 range
chat
should i count my sp run(s) into my data
im not even running sp after today
is sp run 3 elite strat good?
14% drop for 1 battle seems broken
shouldnt matter much 
isnt it 1.5 for the elites
faer why is sp isn't done
1.5% for elite yes
are those CN rates?
i m keeping it separate but i m sitting on a fat 0 there 

15% is much better than 1.5%
and you only need 7 instead of 10 battle, no wonder it's not even considered
SP isnt 10 tbh
it is 8 iirc
aggregated data from baguette grinding in 2020 and community data shows that other event drop is similar rate
so we just use that as a standard
makes sense
where are you getting 15% from
sry 14%
1.5% per battle vs 14-15% ish from 7 battles
you can do the math
plus there is repeated entry cost to consider
@grave canopy how can someone deal with moral if the fleets are depleting it in 30 min
?
get more fleets 
as long as u are doing 2 3x sortie per hour just chill
k time to log into the remaining forgotten 6 games 
stop using heclps if you are limited by morale but not time
unikai w/ asw plane + sandy w/ purple asw aux or hedgehog

well my sandy is like lvl102 and i probably wont do more sp but ty for the recommend
then use a UR BB + one or two good frontliners for the boss fleet
sad
you forgot commissions
that's the baseline, i consider urgent comms as bonus on top
4k is just canteen, missions, and guaranteed daily extractions/awakening normal comms * 10 and a rough estimate of night comm output
yep, not like me checking them every 2h
so all urgents you get would be on top of that
surely, scylla works
volga eld
@crude iris aurora created this thread just for the hvar farming discussion 
eldridge is on the slower side so this is actually pretty decent
she is getting mvp because of her built in hedge 
oh thank you!
welcome to hell 
how many hvars do u want
?
me? I want to try to get 4 more, if Im lucky I'll try to get six and call it quits there
its avg 177 runs for 1
6 is kinda very hopeful there
getting 4 from drops is the most realistic
4 is 130k oil
at the moment Im just uses ships with preloads and such that I don't have leveled
Works like magic
yeah I don't have that.. I have around 80k in storage
if u have a decent oil stockpile u can use full fleets
most of us are doing 1:1 to save oil
u need to most cracked setup to be able to get more than 4 using the 12 oil 1:1
can u do it ?
I just checked and I was wrong by a good amount, I have 96,200
tbh just need +13 moga gun and ddg missile
if you're doing 12 oil...i feel like time/morale might become a bigger problem lol
keep in mind james is ignoring affinity pop up
so unless you're also ok with that
yeah that is why the most realistic one is 19-20 oil imo which will never net more than 4 hvars with 96k oil
36k event tokens 1 HVAR for me 
i expect 3 but hope for 4
yea im manual so i dont fail
you need 8 hours a day on average for 4 hvars over D3
i expect 5
4 will be really pushing the limits of my oil and would require slightly above average total rng
on heclp you can reduce that by some amount
faer never disappoints to prove that he is the ceo nephew 
tbh that is par for the course
what ships do you even use for such cheap D3 clears?
uni ty 
18/111, the avg is tipping back down to 0.14 slowly but surely
uni anshan π
DDG + 0 lb ranger seems to work "most of the time"
otherwise run unicorn + DDG or any 9-10 oil CV + DDG
i m kinda hesitant to buy her retro item 
i am impressed u are tracking runs this well 
ranger + cassin lvl 110+ works as well
dont have that 
131 > 17 
help calculate, I haven't done hard stage yet, I did the pulls, I only rush C1 to D3
Calculate what?
to the hvar nutters out there, don't forget:
How many runs u have done?
66 runs
so 12/66
lucky
dont forget u get 1k tokens tomorrow from login as well
so dont include it in your calc
you dont need to count your runs if u just keep track of token 
oh i forgot daily missions
wait so it's lower than 66 
if it's the same as Roma event,
One Time
Daily login: 1000
Clearing rewards: 200 400 600 400 600 800 = 3000
Recurring
easy: 30 40 50 60 70 80 x5 = 1650
hard: 90 100 110 120 150 180 x3 = 2250
sp: 800
missions: 150 300 300 300 = 1050
Total daily: 5750
Total 7 dailies and one time points: 44250
How many hvars do i need btw
need 0-2
probably not the same huh
soy magi nakh
honestly better ask gph general about that 
amagi nano plac might be best heavy
medium/light is some combo of YKII plac fritz neko
with kear/soy splashed in
very high cv rld tech req but is flexible and good
2070 c1-d2 since c2-c3 only need 1 clear 1050 daily 3000 clear rewards
no hm yet, so 750
oh i remembered right good
depends on your time, your oil, your fleet
177 runs for 1 hvar
you literally have to align the stars a little bit
Should be way more than enough
there's something wrong
c2 and c3 only need 1 clear for 100%
they also give 3x for first clear
cn gamer 
wait how does that work
no idea but for some reason its like that
no im jp
c1 needs 2 clear and day 1 it gives 90x3 + 90
C2 gives 100x3
etc
γΉγ€δΈγγγ³
hello fellow jp spy π€
all this time i thought it was written θͺε on the top and not θͺεΎ
what is this

nice bonus

my TY keeps dying 
idk how u guys are doing TY + 0 lb ranger but it is not foolproof

avoid 3* bb/cv and switched to an shan
whats the gear on them?
what is your van x fleet?
just guam with halford/random ca
Good, I get to live
only way they die is the bb/cv node plane/suicide boat reveals backline
2* dies to crossfleets and 3* u get rng checked
idk what is happening 
are you guys on doube line?
this is the gear
ranger was double cata but still TY dying
maybe mog gun needs +13
im double line because an shan was dying
gear is pretty much the same
except double cata on ranger and+ 13 mog gun
yeah boss fight is tight and mobs are rng
maybe I just ditch ranger 
probably an shan buff something2 over taiyuan
im on circle because the only thing messing the consistency is the two siren that i screenshotted
im just manual avoiding it since 0 morale
man manual is hardcore 
still afk by old shool runescape standards
2/1/1/2/2/3 for clears needed
ohh
i thought 2 1 1 3 3 3 lol
not bad I guess
you lucky mf XD
smol sample size 
yeah in the end it should be between 12-16
4/58 is crazy
smol sample size 
actually a bit lower, forgot to add the initial 3 runs
ye
single line 
did u forget to change emulator setting
nah single line means more damage
if you can cover up with strong gear +13, go for more power
im single line
whats your crossfleets?
yes, thats what i meant. if youre progressing player ill take my bogue fleet instead
sashi alsus amagi guam halford unzen
I can't use those fleets cause my halford's 34
dont u have selector prints and books 
are u having issues with TY + ranger dying in boss or mobs
mainly boss fight
idk boss is rly weird
sometimes doesnt take dmg
changed cat to justice and seems to be better now
sometimes ddg shoots the missile at the ads spawn
I'm using unicorn tbh due to the fact that idk how much time I need to do these farmings
I am running 5 fleets
ddg are strong so can afford bad backline
so trying to save some oil with that
3 fleets are 20 oil and 2 fleet 12 oil 
my an shan isnt raised
unexpected
actually annoying, there's this one time where all my la9 and spearfish rockets just target those instead of the boss
no chang cun as well?
CC and TY raised 
tbh might be able to do an shan just need to do some calcs for YKii bulins
go with cc. ty want full fleet remember
my an shan is level 120 and skills maxed I think
just not retroed 
I am using both tbf
@worn turret is the 3* bb/cv at 0 ammo consistent?
the hermes fleet only run once, the bogue fleet yes. the screenshot ealier seems like the worst case since i take all 3* intentionally
what aux on the bogue fleet?
chang chun doesnt even reach boss with ranger 
switch ranger
yeah 
ANY POGCHAMP IN THE CHAT?!
I mean about 14% of your hvar drops gonna be btb
i got 40% of my hvars in one single 3peat sortie with helps
(5)
i think im still under rates
wait what is help
2x thingy
oh ok, thanks alpha
probably gonna call it a day
lmao what is cheeky doing up here
scroll up
are you gonna do the sp? just once?
since sp is probably just for the score and not that oil efficient anyways
like is it worth doing sp?
i've heard people getting more than 1 bp from SP, probably worth doing tbh
goes from getting 0 to getting as many as 4
what do u use
uni + ddg
they died last mob
i got 0 from sp
used boss for last 2
is the boss heavy?
how are things looking on your end mori
idk I use 3 unicorns, zuihou, aquila, and perseus and they all work with some permutation of 3 ddgs, jav, leander, and laffey
π not farming d3, just doing for point. b1 and sp and daily bonus
b1 
i tried b2 but it's pretty tough
dont go too nolife at it guys, especially if f2p
i had 5 hvar and i still couldnt 1shot the meta π
guess between me and alpha who's f2p
arent you some max tech guy mori?
yes

5 +13 btw
mori played a lot with no mail oil
in the end oath is stronger than +13 f2p
what meta even lamo
probably wichita?
scary
i think wichita yes
people could 1shot with 2hvar+bf109g π₯Ή
not saying you shouldnt farm
get as many as hvar as you can, that's for sure
but dont go redbull every night x6 days for it
you copied team but it didnt work without oath? 
also I played for 8 hours straight today, spent about 40ish helps, and got 20 drop. Probably for 5 hvar target, 100 prints drop, you only need 40 hours accross the week if you have at least 300 helps
yeah, couldnt 1shot even once
i think it was a 4strike comp
i could only pull off 3.3 strike
oath diffed 
such is no oath comp
i was under the impresion mori was p2w
dockspace dolphin
same!
20 drop in 40 helps wtf 
i had 17 in 62 helps
WTF
this is my run, it's my bad for not accounting helps usage, but should be estimatable given I ran about 8 hours across my playtime
im almost to my first farmed hva
serious question
when you guys say
i farmed x amoutn of runs
do you divide by 2 when ur using helps
multiply by 2
in my case my runs are net run with no heclps
I mean like I do mixed runs because I don't wanna overspent heclp
so all my runs are net there, equivalent to 50.5 heclped run
anyways good night yall, have fun hvaring
considering a 7 day period and 25 blueprints to synthesize one, you can exchange for one plane (15 from the shop + 10 from point rewards). if you manage to farm one, thats already pretty good. theres no need to stress over this, this will likely be added to the research lab or shop before long. personally, im not a fan of βusefulβ equipment dropping from events. the main reason is that the efficiency of farming D3 is too low. the rewards needs to be comparable to those of chapter 13β15 stages
ye like on occasion

good morning, time to grind
no shot
i hate ddgs, there is some node where planes detect lb0 backline and bb onetaps her
In my D3 sigma grindset yesterday I almost forgot to do SP
Got it 10 min before server reset
same, good thing I woke up
interesting, i was 2/3 help run when reset hit, then it did the 3rd run and i dont have the x3 multiplier (not that it matters but still funny)
Scammed 
im rank 9 for points on avrora 
Are we cheating by not having a life chat 

i forgor 
can confirm, little E went crazy with this one since this is their first yorktown event iirc
amagi's Ha Take That and cheeky isn't even 40k
oh thats why its so high, i was 2nd with only 43k
20/148 

5 prints (there are 2 more below) in 3 runs maybe life is worth living still 
Oooh I'll do that when I get the fabled 6 Print Runβ’οΈ
The old legends (from 2022) still remain, it must be real right
2 prints in 1.5 k oil
no do it when u get a 9 print run 
6 runs 0 bp with 0.14 avg is not that unlikely
got my first hvar
24/178 -> 29/184
im running into a different problem
im getting too many good urgent comms without enough comm slots or time to do all
I'm popping my mail oil already, around 25kish dumped
No HVAR yet
I got 4 (!) gem comms
wifi so bad i get maint notifications
im running low on baseline oil, probably starting on mails later today
on jp ?
EN (phone)
im apparently #3 in avrora 
actual zoomer speedrunner
gonna sleep once i run all my fleets to low morale again

should take maybe another 30 mins
9 or 12 runs alrady and i still see no hvar prints
i m here 1k event points aways from the #1 
smol sample size 
hmmm
ig the main only needs 2 more hvars
i had multiple sets of 0 hvar followed by one with 5. it'll even out over time 
gonna farm more though since it;ll be gone for a good while
How many do you have already?
3 from the original run
u are hard chilling then
smh
i was not at home
well i guess the jp account is the one in shambles
on some faraway place with shitty piso wifi
You really only need to farm 1 since we get a freebie
yes lol, was made like way back
no i meant to bring it back to the normal hvar count 
184 runs 
i fail to see why i am not on the LB
Updates hourly
i count helped runs as 2 keep that in mind

for proper droprate%
π€
IK but still 92 runs
its now 32/196
lucky
only slightly above the expected result atm
35/250 here 
and that's after reaching 0.12 average then jumping to 0.16 lol
24/178 to 32/190
now still 32/196 and we'll see 202 soonish
and then i 
oh i lied it wasnt 0.12 
or it was at some point earlier maybe? i think i was stuck on 20 for a while
this shit so rng
suffering from success smh 
the rate counts in a 2x drop from boss so its gonna be like that
48 prints so far at .138
confusion
man didn't sleep
did you separate the hvar prints from d3 and those from shop + point rewards?
oh i read it wrong i see
yea i gotta find out if my roads gonna be frozen
sleep is for the weak 
73 prints total 48 farmed
I believe this too, I got more BPs in a couple lucky runs really close to each other than I did the whole evening yesterday
They turn the print machine off when we're winning to much 
yeah many times i get double drop from boss 
rates are better on the jpbro account once i turned off the browser
wait it's the same chance? we get bps *or* gold boxes? 
might be i dont think ive ever seen both drop
I've been scammed so much then 
idts, you just see the gold thing then its not a bp and you are let down
apparently i have miscounted my prints once
its 33/202
im not claiming shop or milestone til farm ends so i can just look at depot now
no no no
its just i see gold flash
and then its a fucking box
you can just get all then craft one
uh
how many prints you can get from both the shop and point milestone rewards?
enough for one HVAR?
25 total
Ah figuress
ic ic
Just think that every box is quadmags and the non ib are catas 
this happened to me too couple of time to the point that i suspected that the game gives ghost prints that they don't show on the result screen 
1 more session and im free
See it's all in the mindset
You just need to β¨ manifest β¨ it
taking a break to farm opsi while i go do quick errand
taking a break to log into the other forgotten 7 games 
taking a break to 
goodnight 
A third of the way there 
I've given up on full 1:1 and now I'm doing 1:1 mob + xfleet boss
A bit more morale to juggle but it's faster and I don't have to sweat for S rank
damn., they are going full speed
Now I feel bad I had to sleep. I was in the top 10 before bed
ok, γΉγ€δΈγγγ³ update
current stocks
it'll take a miracle to get enough for 4 hvars
Looks like I am averaging 4 min 20 sec per full sortie. Is that about what other people are seeing with their 1:1 fleets?
@grave canopy san, assuming I spend on average 750 oil per 3 sorties, is 3 or 4 hvars possible?
Can respond anytime, I'll probs be asleep by the time you come around to comment. Do ping me please π
it is around 179 run per hvar
so the storage can barely do another one
i m at 5.3 min i think
why not go full oil at that point
u are only saving 17 oil per run from not full sortieing 
expected oil left should be ~32k oil from dailies (if 4000/day) + weekly mission + weekly pack + event oil
so u need 92k oil for 52 more prints (4 total HVAR) and will have 82k oil
I think u can do it if u get lucky and have good urgent comms
5 total hvar unlikely tho
is the boss heavy or medium? 
medium
tyty
what's better on Eldridge and Yuudachi then, the Mogador gun or the Sakura(?) UR gun?
probably mog gun for both tbh
and the gun is sakura yeah
i mean eldridge barrage is good so maybe twin 100 works as well on her
@worn turret how are u dealing with AA with ranger
ooa CV node kills me 
even with +13 UR AA
The one and only time I'm ever topping the leaderboards
Amagi slacking 
Yeah idk why
I guess the server it's filled with π΄
I'm not fighting for the spot, when I get my hvar fill I bail completely
In the meantime waiter waiter seconds please
look all these zoomers
smh
realizing its ~30k-40k oil per hvar pains me
45k
that's w/ oil cap
it's ~27k w uni:ddg
oh i see then it is very doable
4+1 
now that i think about it i have 3 +13 bf
and i don't have enough to even do 2 2 2 2 on the conv torp

getting 5 hvars might be pointless 
inb4 gearlab powercreeps in a month
Gear lab update should be even sooner 
if u are talking about the hvar it is very unlikely
But I doubt it can easily creep the hvar
or they might lower the number needed for it by an event for example
faer should i go for 4 drops
seeing how am struggling with plates
most likely i won't be able to +13 them and i already have +13 bf which is better i think than +10 hvar
4 total u mean?
Sure thing
3-4 is optimal stopping point imo
I just want 6 cuz I am a carrier fanatic 
you dont need more than 5 unless kear gets powercrept for light
you got like 200 plane plates each month though
120 for gold and 360 for rainbow

so if i have spent 360 and i have 800 now knowing that i was playing regularly opsi from feb
how many per month is that
about 100
yeah sounds about right also i recently changed to getting plane plates from the guild shop
i was on main gun for a year
My UR enty cope 
80-100 base seems right I think
Higher for aux
Add 80 from guild
So with full focus 180-200 plane plates is doable
Even more with selectors 

i swapped to only planes a bit ago
i do want to +13 a plygun but after that imagine needing gun plates 
I feel like even then it would replace nakh and not kear
Both are needed 
Depends what u value
I prefer CV 
Good point
I just want 6 
isnt it 3 times weekly so 120? 
resets on monday and friday
Twice weekly + refresh
So 5x2x2x4

yeah carriers need way more, its kinda silly how unbalanced it is
pvp 
the only gun u want +13 as UR is 1 georgia for w15 mob boss mob
and who knows what the future hold
i m very suspecting a champy creep very soon for some reason
but but but my mk7s
these are the URs I have that aren't mlb, which should I do first? Im assuming Z52, yorktown, shimakaze I only have one atm but Im decently close to getting a second one
why this thread lol
I forgot to switch to the actual channel :p
to make it simple
z52
if u have anymore question abt it, pls go to #gameplay-help
yeah I will after Z52 is done probably, it'll take a long time to get the others done anyways
getting back on topic
what crossfleets are you guys using for 1:1?
im using amagicv,sashi,alsace, unzen,guam,shima
any better options?
i dont use ranger yet
i use rumey over amagi but idk if its better
also
is 5 fleets on dorm enough to juggle around constantly fo full uptime?
yeah should be fine
it depends on your clear time and how much u mess around swapping, when i lock in 5 is not enough for me to fully heal the unit i used first
This is what Iβm using nowadays
if u use proper backline then im kinda sure 5 is not enough 
i do 3 lb0 and 3 proper (because 3 of my fronts are weaker and lb0 dies sometimes)
yea i dont think its enough
im on the zh + laff cycle
and theyre only at like 100 morale
how much morale does a 3x with helps cost
i can do 2 sets of 3x help run and my units will go to like 4-10 morale from 150
interesting
then i swap
ive been grinding since 9
so i think its about this time where all fleets run out of morale
She is supposed to be like, top few DPS CLs
also
note, rikka no good at 1:1
LMAO what is this
it was a sheet to know which fleet cycles after the previous
unicorn cheerleader + jabbers
unicorn mage + laffey
unicorn retro + tai yuan
perseus + chang chun
zuihou + an shan
aquila + leander
This is mine
apparently 6 fleets is too much, can't even keep up with morale regen
even with HECLPs
idt javelin laffey and leander are too fast
maybe I spent too much time on shuffling and enhancing
probably thats why
true, a game of matching
still no Hornet drop, can you believe it
how much points? 
i just use 3 fleets and its enough with HELPS; i throw in a c5 run if i run out of morale though
i think 3 is maintenance for 0 helps
yalls with such minmaxer comps
I'm using those 5 (1-1) fleets I posted :3
can't c right now but almost 40k
at least after this event I can help newbs in estimating the parameters in case time like this come again in the future
damn
I'm fine with a shy Hornet if the hvars keep coming home
Should I use high efficiency logistic plans
if u wanna maximize your hvar prints and have the fleets to do so yes
highly recommended if you are aiming for like 3-4 farmed
and if u dont have time
if u can farm 16h per day i think you can farm 4 without help tho
implying u got the oil
Iβve got 7k and another 90k barrels in storage
on avg luck and ~130 oil per d3 thats like 3 hvars i think
im only using helps to be safe, i probably dont need to use them all the time tbh
if you use helps all the time your moral recovery won't be able to catch up, at least that's happening to me
even with 5 fleets (and yes I have the 2nd floor)
how many bps are you guys at
this is my full data
i had 0.16 rate few hours in on day 2 but then it went below day1 even 
ima t 62 with shop rn
how many runs
damn youre tracking days
what lvl is the boss in d3
and is it higher than d2 boss
so 47 prints in 260
how many are you at?
thats kinda lucky damn
37
35/220
i use it so i can still play opsi and stuff
thats almost 0.16 rate
indeed
today i m at 76 > 4
cursed
4 prints in 76 runs?
its jover
I got 20 bps today so far
23/423
theres no way
Yeah truly cursed, I have more prints at 5/20
yeah but also from another angle i think i m not going for more than 3 drops imo
plates are a hard bottleneck for me
you mean you want 3(+1) hvars?
10 prints 28 runs 
i havent got a single one in like 28
woe is me
for a 1% drop rate item in a certain game i went dry for 800 runs
i was actually getting it from a 0.1% source more than the 1% one
like nani
i once went dry for about 300 runs in a game for a 2.5% drop rate item
probably worst rng ive seen
i think i calculated my overall percentile for rng for it and i was like
bottom 1e-6th percentile across 11 drops
38/226 dont hate me 
I haven't started today's shift
interestingly cause that's actually right
that's even more scary
chatgpt is honestly pretty cool lol
3-5 is realistic and should be able to cover the 95% chance of finding a good sync for 6 fighters slot total
3-5 is realistic for very few
Does this mean helps also drain morale twice as fast along with oil?
yes
Bruh
it is just a time saver
but doenst help with morale
one of the few resources linking in game resource and time
the only place in which helps are important is war archives, you double the drop rates of whatever you are farming in each key
41990 points till i got my first HVARCat from print drops
seems like I am on 47/370
today has been rough 
that's a good rate, ain't it? 1 hvar a day
I'm faring a bit worse, I have more points than you but I also did A1 to B3 yesterday + 2 SPs
oomf i forgot to separate the shop + pt reward hvar prints
i havnet gotten a print in like 5k 7k points
I got 5 bp's in a single 3runs screen but they didn't fit in the screenshot, then I went on a drought
it's not so crazy to believe, the 3 sirens that spawn at the start can also drop hvars
It's crazier to acknowledge that I'm still Hornetless
i have 10 hornets
is it 2 days since the event?
1 day for en 2 for jp cn
yesterday was just a half day for euros because maintenance
only got 3 hornets in 450 runs
I'm within the top10 of Glexington
39/232 
How many from gacha?
looks like i miscounted
21 prints atm
including the freebies? (shop or milestones)
none.
farming depression is real
excluding it since the first time i did that, someone malded
damn you are luckious
rich
i made a mistake it was 9 hornets
i have 3
is my calc for the number of runs wrong?
maybe i got some of the missions that give event pts
I was stupid because I used 2 SR bulins on hornet
very
if youre wondering how things are going on my end 
#trophy-room message
how many hvars
0
what server are you from Slap at that?
imagay Amagi
I will prayg to end up with less score than alpha
ex?
didnt do it yet
i will end up highest on all EN 
did you just delete your message? lmao
pray that no one in numero uno or one of the other top guilds in other servers overtakes u
i avearge 10 hours of AL a day
now i will average 15 hours of al these 2 days
I finally got Hornet uwu
riddle me this
what drops from d3, is gold and takes up 10 pf my dock space
Guys, is this enough HVAR, relic from first event run
interesting
very possible given the past rate and this amount of play
hacked apk
idk how to hack apk, but i did farm those
wait you the fleet power farmer from avrora
yeah
im a big fan

My experience with Windborne and Fargo lol (got 10 from gacha)
this is the logical next step of discovering a useful bug
you abuse the fuck out of it
i wasn't really farming hvar specifically, just byproduct of farming for event pt
explain this 
avrora records for the OG run by bazzoka
just a prank 
all good
average toolkit farmer 
hits too close to home
not mine
from lil-e bros
4 in 1 is possible 
little E's having their time of their life with 300k event points target
my drop rate is now dipping below 18%
and I am at 12.8% 
faer what's little E's exercise pace lead rn
I can check in 10 mins 
I really need to know if I have a chance at EoS
i'm at 7%
He nuked the basement thread the last time? 
yeah lets stay on topic 
18% hax
11/51 or 21% currently (it was 35% earlier) 
I just stop whenever I max my commisions
Not going doing so many runs yet, mainly as I already had 2 HVAR before this event
Still have yet to withdraw any oil from mail lol, and didn't hit oil soft cap before doing this
ive withdrawn 15k 
is it worth 3 starring
sometimes I wonder if I misclick D3
Your d2 should be lethal if u didnt clear more than once 
including shop?
alpha working hard to not get the thread nuked i see
fybre working hard to get the thread nuked i don't see
test
lets go
since there's 5 days left and im already at nearly 300 runs im wondering if it might be safe to stop using helps
sure
yknow just in case a new farm drops soon xd
it's up to you really, it's not like I can farm with helps anyways with my 20k mail oil
how many helps do u have remaining
450 something for me
i havent even touched mail oil yet
im thinking it's probably safe to stop helping for 2 days and then pick it back up if i need to?
I'm gonna share stats later
700+ Helps with 200k mail oil left
70 prints without touching oil mail wtf?
started with 25k + weekly pack/quests not claimed
same here
and i had to claim 27k and farmed only 57 prints
whats your total cost for 1 run
i was doing 94 oil the whole time
theyre using ultra low oil
Z52 + 0 lb ranger I'd assume
ddg + 0 lb ranger
14% 
probably gonna try booking halford as exp books are cheaper than mail oil
nvm it's kinda ass since I don't have much time irl as I only have 1 level 70 ranger
lvl 70ing is like 84 book or something like that, basically nothing
the fleet isnt 100% consistent either
3* cv node will kill backline depending on plane spawns
97 iirc
and again mail oil for meis just a failsafe in case of bad event rng
and can be ignored if I just plan my coind enough
I guess it's time for me to ignore the coin cap 
Open your tech boxes and mass enhance blue/purple gear (that can be upgraded to blue/purple gear) and then upgrade to get back plates and some coin
Since you won't be using most of the material mats anyways
Wait let me record a video
wait, what's the purpose of this
It lets you hold more coins than hard coin cap
Hilariously inefficient but you don't lose any gear plates
But only do this after you buy out cat boxes
omg like 4000 + 800 coins for like 800 coins in return
nahhh I'd rather just coin cap, thanks though
Just buy out shop and cats first before that yeah
Btw you meant hard coin cap right?
I meant ignore softcap lol, I don't think anyone has ever ignore hardcap 
just ignore softcap
but at that hardcap pointI guess there's nothing they can do other than that
Oh then yeah ignore soft cap lol
also how tf aurora has 18528 messages in like 4 months
chronic yappage
13/58 prints with runs
hvar sama ohayou gozaimasu
I am honestly fairing very well with my 15 hvars per day, probably jinxed it, but regardless I'll keep farming cause rng is a fickle thing just to be sure.
75 prints at the moment. God knows how much oil I've burnt.
you will be judged for your climate crimes
Goodmorning sweatys rise and grind, the sooner you get to your bp target the sooner the torture ends
atp im just trying to minmax oil usage so i end up as close to 0 as possible so i save as much storage as possible
felt like we are all in a camp or something
we at the saltmines
I'm mostly in the same predicament now
I can grind, but if I hold till monday weeklies + pack goes a long way. On the other hand, i have more grind time on weekends 
I'm 44/75 rn
I'm over for the day
damn that's like 0.16
exactly 0.16 yes
Living proof of drop rate being correct 
nah drop rate is 0.14 i am lucksack
crazy how 0.14 canmake oil spent/hvar from 24k to 27k
maybe after this event tho we'll all have enough personal data to compile together
and see if that old CN thing holds up
or if it's slightly higher/lower
What old CN thing is this? 
2020 single 138.6 baguette gun data collection
which is where the estimated rates came from, 1.5% elite, 6% boss with a 50% for 2
idr the exact number, boss is like 6.4 or something
all in all it roughly adds up to 0.14 per run
So 4.5 + 9.5%?
boss would be 9% on average in that case
its a bit over 9% which is why it roughly equates to 0.14









