Help with fleet please

[ripe summit]

How do I send images?

Nvm

I have these

[hollow python]

right then

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Hello

[hollow python]

I presume you have no UR Bullins?

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That's everything

Should I send images of how much shop stuff I have?

[hollow python]

Mob: Musashi, Unicorn, Essex, Yuudachi, Sumner, Laffey
Boss: NJ, Enterprise, Ark Royal, Portland, Helena, San Diego

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Does this work for siren too?

[hollow python]

kinda

[wind cape]

Eh where's the tank for Mob
He has Roon he could use

[hollow python]

Roon isn't even Dev 20

[wind cape]

oh right

[hollow python]

among other things you'll want to read Sam's gear guide in #bot-spam /equip

[ripe summit]

Idk what I'm doing tbh

I was going to ask that next

[hollow python]

and the uh shop priority guide also by Sam
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority

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Should I buy the ur bulin thing

[hollow python]

and Yuudachi can mob tank for the time being

[hollow python]

Specialized cores yes

[ripe summit]

Okay

Who should I use that for?

New Jersey?

[quaint oak]

NJ but u need 2

[ripe summit]

Ohkay

[quaint oak]

actually youll get one from cruise pass so its fine

[hollow python]

NJ remains limit break 2 for the time being

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I can only get one

[hollow python]

not ideal but it works

[ripe summit]

From the shop

Currently

[quaint oak]

is 2lb NJ better than warspite retro for him?

[hollow python]

and with the JP Anniversary in about a month I'd wait and see what happens

yes

[ripe summit]

So I should save the cubes?

[hollow python]

yes

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Okay

[hollow python]

really though

what you should be doing right now is farming the event

not pushing the campaign

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I will

[quaint oak]

you can prob do D1 easily with half decent gearing

[wind cape]

Gear wise this should be doable pretty easily
If you dont have white shells, the purple version is fine
if you lack black shells, just throw on whatever
if you lack enough washing machines (Hydraulic steering), naval camo is fine

And if you have those gold auxes that have HP + some random effect you can slap those on as a alternative to a 2nd toolbox on your DDs if you lack enough

the only things here that arent from crates are the black shell and gold rarity whtie shell

I left the AA gun slots empty too since AA pre-W12/13 really isnt that much of a threat so you can just throw on whatever you have but backliners would like Haze/STAAG alot more than regular AA

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What ship should I be researching?

[hollow python]

3 rudders is uhh rather optimistic

[hollow python]

doesn't really matter at this point to be honest

[ripe summit]

Okay

[hollow python]

you're not in a position where you can or should focus on PR

[quaint oak]

8 gold catapults is also rather high expectation

[ripe summit]

So for unicorn and Essex I only have one of the gold hellcat things

Who gets it?

[hollow python]

as is 4 quad mags and 5 Barracudas if I'm being honest

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And what do I give the other

[hollow python]

give the other Purple F4u Corsairs

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I have a gold seafang and 2 messerch...

If that matters

And a couple purple hellcats

[hollow python]

Messerschmitt is shit

Gold Sea Fang is about an equivalent to the Gold Hellcat

[ripe summit]

So do that?

[hollow python]

sure

[ripe summit]

For the torpedo is there much of a difference between quintuple and quadruple?

[hollow python]

yes

[ripe summit]

Okay...

[wind cape]

the quints are basically about as good as the previous rarity's quad

the extra torp is not worth the extra reload time

[ripe summit]

I have these

[hollow python]

could you just

post all of your SR and elite gear

[ripe summit]

Yes

[hollow python]

include stuff that's equipped on ships by tapping equipped on

also if you have any T4 and 5 tech boxes open them

and show what SR gear you can craft please

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Should I up these?

I'll just do it

[wind cape]

yes
convert up as many as you can (It only goes up to T3)

[quaint oak]

you can get purples from it so its fine

[ripe summit]

I tried to open the crafted ones but it says storage full when I did

[quaint oak]

look at /equip in #bot-spam and the safe to scrap list

if its grey scrap it

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Disassemble the blues?

I got these from the boxes

And I have like 10 more purple boxes of a few factions

[wind cape]

Here read this
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

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I got these from boxes

[hollow python]

empty slots mean use whatever there for now

[ripe summit]

Okay, thank you

[quaint oak]

also dont craft random stuff in opsi next time, or from core data shop

your prio in core data shop should be 3 white shell and 3 black shell first

[ripe summit]

So I'm missing one hydraulic, one of the twin 120 mm, a seafang, a firecrest, and one black shell

What should I use instead of those

Please?

[wind cape]

I think he meant to put firebrand instead of firecrest
Purple corsair instead of seafang ig
black shell you can replace with a Fire control radar
Naval camo instead of blue hydraulic steering
and ig gold twin 100mm to replace the twin 120mm

[ripe summit]

Thanks

I was able to buy the shell

Also are the cat things important or no

[wind cape]

currently no

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Thank you

Oh also what should I use for exercises?

[wind cape]

just whatever unless you want to tryhard that in which case, #pvp

[ripe summit]

Ohk

What exactly should I try to buy from event shop

Aside from the ship for collection

[wind cape]

get the event gear since it's always better to have it and not need it later than to not have it and need it later (as unlikely as it may be for most of them)

after that, anything you need
like in your case, tech crates for example

[ripe summit]

Okay

Thanks

Also like for the event farming

[wind cape]

farm the highest stage you can, D maps if possible since oil cap

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I have over 20k oil, I'll run out of mood before that, what do I do?

[wind cape]

put your ships in dorm and go touch grass

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Grass?

[wind cape]

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Isn't there other fleet options I could try or something?

[wind cape]

you could make more fleets but that's dependent on how many ships you have and how much surplus gear you can spare

Both of which you dont really have enough of right now

[ripe summit]

I have a ton of ships

Just maybe not a lot of good ones

[quaint oak]

dont do it

[wind cape]

not enough worthwhile ones for mainline use
and your gear situation is pretty dogshit right now anyways

[quaint oak]

just do dorm swapping and you can spend like 10-20k oil a day

[ripe summit]

Okay

What's dorm swapping?

[quaint oak]

assuming all ships in mob 119 morale, put 3 in dorm 2nd floor, sortie 12 times on desired stage
after finishing, swap those in 2nd floor with the 3 other ships on low morale
wait 2.5-3h
swap the 3 ships with 150 morale in 2nd floor with the other 3 ships that are lower morale
repeat

[ripe summit]

Huh

[quaint oak]

if you do this at a reasonable pace of 2 sessions a day, you spend oil faster than you gain it even on max canteen

just needs 3rd slot + 2nd floor in dorm

[ripe summit]

I don't think i have the 2nd floor

[quaint oak]

factoring in weekly rewards and comms and maint oil, you will still spend oil faster than you can gain it

[ripe summit]

Yeah, I just need to get the 500 gems

[quaint oak]

you should have it if you havent been spending your f2p gems on dumb stuff

[ripe summit]

I have 4 dorm slots and I bought rings

[quaint oak]

so you spent it on dumb stuff, well clear stages and buy 2nd floor with your gems

[wind cape]

and then in the future, invest all free gems in dock space

[quaint oak]

dont buy ring or skins as f2p you will brick yourself

[ripe summit]

I wasn't going to buy anymore

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Should I continue farming event or do stages?

[wind cape]

event takes priority right now
you can go back to campaign after it ends

[ripe summit]

Okay

Thank you again

How bad is it to fight on low mood?

[wind cape]

very bad
besides losing affinity, your XP gain is cut in half

[ripe summit]

If my ships are a high enough level is it so bad?

What does affinity do anyway except for the promise rings I'm not supposed to get?

[wind cape]

still just as bad

[ripe summit]

[ripe summit]

6% doesn't seem like much....

But if you say so ig

[wind cape]

i mean would you rather have the miniscule buff or the whopping -50% XP gain

[ripe summit]

🤔

Fine

So who should I have in dorm?

[wind cape]

Your mob fleet (aka the one with Unicorn) since it fights the most

[ripe summit]

I can only put 4 ships in atm

[wind cape]

If you buy the 2nd floor you can put another 4 in

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Wow

I thought it was just for aesthetics

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When I eventually hit the 400 is she the best option?

[wind cape]

Yeah
Shinano > NJ > Shimakaze

And when UvH enters perma, Shinano> NJ == UvH > Shima

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Who is that?

UvH?

[wind cape]

Ulrich Von Hutten
Another UR BB

[ripe summit]

I already have musashi and new jersey

[wind cape]

Then for you she's realistically collection (and at best, has a spot later on In Opsi but that's also slightly dubious)

[ripe summit]

Okay

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Is there any elites or super rares I should invest in aside from the ones on my fleet

I have a ton of the elite bulins and idk what to do with them

Does sub fleet matter?

[quaint oak]

it will not to where you’re at

subs only start to matter at w14

[ripe summit]

But is there any i should level?

In particular

Like I have a ton of those blue books and purple bulins

[quaint oak]

use those for other things not subs

[ripe summit]

Like who?

Or what

[quaint oak]

subs will not matter until you’re at w14

good subs are gold anyways

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Is it bad to prepare in advance?

I have a couple gold ones

[quaint oak]

it is because its a waste of resources

[ripe summit]

Archerfish and one I something something

[quaint oak]

you will benefit more directly in using resources on whatever other things you need now than something you need in the future

[ripe summit]

19 and 168

Okay

But what?

[quaint oak]

you’re farming event correct

[ripe summit]

Yep

I can't rn because mood low

[quaint oak]

and in campaign you’re sitting at about 9-1

[ripe summit]

Yeah

I got to 100% all of A and B in the event

And then mood hit orange

[quaint oak]

on your way to 12-4, you want to look into research ships, namely fdg and pr4

[ripe summit]

Idk what that means

[quaint oak]

research ships need fleet tech points, which you get from obtaining ships of the faction, MLBing them and getting them to 120

[ripe summit]

What mlb?

[quaint oak]

max limit break

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Ohk

So who should I do that for?

[quaint oak]

ill just give you a rough timeline of what youll be doing, assuming you want to grind the heck out of the game and progress alot

[ripe summit]

Thanks

I want to do that

Try to anyway

[quaint oak]

1. farm event
2. after event finish, push campaign to 12-4
   2.1. while doing this, get fleet tech points for fdg and anchorage, and construct them
   2.2. also while doing this, you should have opsi unlocked, grind the heck out of opsi
   2.3. also while doing all that, learn about protocore, research catchup, gearlab stuff, proper gearing for hard content, fleetbuilding basics for w13 and w14
3. plan for w13, and get whatever you need for it based on guidance by others
   3.1. grind what you need, and learn about the game through other people
4. complete w13, and look to develop and build agir and haku
   4.1. at this point you can look at w14, and learn about it the same way that you learned and prepared for w13
   4.2. the game is not a sprint, it is a marathon, expect 4-6+
   months of login since now to start working on w14
5. w15 will take another year or so, using the same process as you did for w13 and w14

[ripe summit]

My brain froze

Too much information

[quaint oak]

i didnt include everything in this timeline, its just a sketch of what you would be doing if you want to tryhard

[ripe summit]

There's more?

[quaint oak]

if i included everything it would be too long and more of an autobiography of my own progress and frankly not needed to dump on a newish player even if they seem interested to tryhard the game

[ripe summit]

Okay

[quaint oak]

you will get to understand more about the game by simply playing more, and sitting in gph asking questions that are directly relevant to what you have problems with

[ripe summit]

Okay

Does siren consume mood?

[quaint oak]

no

[ripe summit]

I already have it unlocked

Idk what fleets to use because apparently not the same

[quaint oak]

while you are farming event, you can learn about some other stuff that will help like protocore, how to get more of it, what not to do concerning protocore, core data shop stuff, medal shop priority, guild shop, etc

[ripe summit]

I'm still confused about what fleets to use for siren and how to use them

And this, what do I do here?

[ripe summit]

Then do I just put a bunch of eagle union ships on a team and farm event?

I think I can do lower stages without gear, possibly

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Is roon or roon ų better?

[ripe summit]

Why does it say this then

Kind of misleading

[quaint oak]

i had a nap, follow the timeline and farm event

dont worry about everything else just yet

[ripe summit]

But you said while farming event, to try and develop Anchorage

And one of the things is getting combat exp?

[ripe summit]

So should I use eagle union ships?

[ripe summit]

Also does retrofitting ships count towards the fleet points thingy

[ripe summit]

Also for these ships what skills should I prioritize leveling?

[hollow python]

uhh, pretty much all of them you'll want to level

though I guess the main ones would be

Musashi's and NJ's barrages, Lucky E for Enterprise and Unicorn's healing skill

[wind cape]

Retrofits do not count for fleet tech/tech points

[ripe summit]

Thanks

[ripe summit]

After I buy the crates am I done with farming event?

[wind cape]

If you have the event ship and the event gear already and you feel like you don't need anything else from the shop yee

[ripe summit]

So then I start story?

I'm like 300 currency away from being able to buy the last crate

The only other thing I might need is gold

Because limit breaking is expensive

And retrofitting

[wind cape]

Yes

[ripe summit]

Okay

Thank you

[ripe summit]

If I get dev 20 is she worth swapping someone for?

[wind cape]

No
For one, research ships don't get all of their bulk until D25, and even then, they would like to be D30 asap since that's their equivalent to MLB

[ripe summit]

Okay

I will work on that

But it's expensive

[ripe summit]

Although, if I have started researching Anchorage, would it be better to save my gold for her development instead?

[wind cape]

in terms of pratical useage Anchorage is miles better than Roon as a tank
but Roon still has value as tech point fodder for other german research ships, namely FdG