Fleet reccomendations/Ship development

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Fleet reccomendations/Ship development (I'm at 7-1 for info)

Fleet 1

Fleet 2

Dock

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Sort your ship by rarity and post your dock in the thread, make a main and vanguard sections

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you mean put what ships I own for main and vanguard separately?

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Ok, priority should be retrofit unicorn first

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Yeah, but I can work with this

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already working on unicorn/portland/laffey retro

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Good, they should be work on first

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also working on helena retro

but going a bit slow cuz of portland

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Prioritize port before Helena

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are there any ships I need to pull for/look for to substitute anyone on the fleets?

also, how should I organize mob/boss fleets with ships I own? I know enty is boss fleet

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No, do daily light build, your roster is good enough

[fast oyster]

Just wait for events to pull for ships

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Enty is bossing but keep her in mob to level up and max limit break her

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Also just stick to 1 fleet till you reach w10

W10 is where 2 fleet starts to become more important and it is campaigns first difficulty spike

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can't get 3 stars with 1 fleet tho x.x

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You can, just fight with no ammo

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also rookie missions want both fleets to average lvl 90 to finish

so I can get hood

instead of pennsylvania

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Well if your fleet is strong enough then you can brute force without ammo anyway

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Also have you started any pr ships yet?

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I know but even though my main fleet outlevels maps by 15 lvls

i still struggle to clear all spawns +boss without flagship dying

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yeah, saint-louis

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What is getting to your flagship to kill them?

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just need the retro blueprints

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Change flag to enty, you won't get snipe and when uni get retro, she can heal backline as well

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Probably enemy BB sniping

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planes....and enemy bb but I've already put the best AA guns i own

and made them +6

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I doubt enemy BBs are much problem in w7

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its mainly planes

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Not yet, it will be worse in w11 but put enty as flag help anyway

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Show use your carrier gearing please

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I was told by others that BB with barrage has to be flag tho

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And w10, w10 is the first spike in difficulty with BB spam

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1 sec, i'll show carrier gears and inv

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Also enty flag will get revealed by enemy planes and sniped even worse

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Normally yes but Penn barrage is a bit underwhelm

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She have better AA and by the time she got reveal, battle should almost over, she will take bit dmg over time but nothing she can't handle

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It could be worse, but this is decent enough

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Focus your plane prints on levelling your carriers fighters

Also max limit break will help massively with your carriers aa contribution

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You mean prints for crafting planes right? don't you just get random prints from lab research and dailies?

how can you focus

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Plane prints as in the upgrade parts

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i can max them now easily, just haven't done the last one because they are only 84 and oil costs..

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Purple plane plate that drop from map

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oh yeah oki

I have a decent amount

like 100

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Use them

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but i was told to not do purple gear higher than +6 if im not sure i will use it long term

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Once Uni and Laffey retro, you can run 1:1 fleet with them

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Upgrade the Corsair as much as you can

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Helldiver can be upgrade to 10

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No, the purple one shouldnt

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sorry if its a stupid question, 1:1 fleet? >.<

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What? That's purple helldiver, one of the best use DB

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Corsair is fine to +10 because it upgrades to pancake

I thought you said hellcat

My mistake

I ENed

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1 main + 1 vanguard

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like, u mean clearing with 2 ships in a fleet? for farming?

im a little lost

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Like this

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Mainly for when/if you farm fox mines or poi, can be useful for even map first clears.

Otherwise the majority of farming you will do will be oilcapped

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so both helldiver and corsair to +10? is my plane setup fine? should I change planes?

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Both actually, Uni is bit broken after retro, she and laffey retro can clear map until w12 and a staple in low cost farming

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Maybe faster reload torp plane on uni

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this is all I own atm, I've been wanting to change for a while but no good drops

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Blue cuda is fine until they get a purple/gold one

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Yeah, open gold royal navy box to get more gold barra

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I'll pray to rng gods

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Cuda is the best you can get until either the vit-2, wyvern, or breguet.

(for mobbing)

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so I should leave the gold barra at +6?

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Gold Barra is fine to +10, wait until you have +10 your fighters though

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They better at 10, also make reload faster

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ok, do you guys mind giving me equipment help with the other ships? sorry if im taking a lot of your time

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I can't remember if w7 has as much suicide boats as w6

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it has a lot

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Sure, post screenshots

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or at least it seems similar to w6

im only at 7-1 tho

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7-1 not good for farming too much mob in your way

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i'll probs look to swap london to saint-louis once she is researched for fleet 2 but thats later on

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oh yeah, I meant in general, not just farming

idk if theres much to farm on 7-1

so far just been farming kaga/akagi, helena and uni

and tenzan blueprints

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Give Helena secondary to laffey, mlb Helena and get her the crossbow aug if you can, and penny wants twin 128 purple if you have it

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oh yeah, is this an augment?

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No, crossbow

This

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then nope, i probs don't own any

bow is the only one i have under "special"

if thats where augments go

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Do you have the materials to make one

If you click the + on the augment section you should have a menu that lets you make them

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i think so

is this the first augment i should focus on tho?

not one for enty?

or uni?

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It will help against aircraft

Other than that, next aug could be officers sword to help penny not get hit as often, it gives some Eva stat

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for penny you mean for secondary or primary? I have only 127mm for secondary and 380mm twin for primary

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oki, so those 2 augs are the most important atm?

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Yes

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Penny wants a better secondary, that gun likely won't do enough damage to kill all of the suicide boats

What DD guns do you have available

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these are all equippable secondaries for penny

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Just keep her current secondary for now then

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oki

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All I can really recommend for survivability against planes is either more levels for penny, an AA boosting aux gear or a toolbox for more hp

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i'll do what I can

should I spend retro blueprints on saint-louis as soon as i get enough?

I have 7/10 t2

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Spend what you need on port first, then you can get Saint Louis

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yeah honestly im just starting t2 on portland

since i didnt have enough t1

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Port will still be your tank, sanrui is better as an off-tank damage deaoer

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the only sustainable way to get them is research right? which costs cubes

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No

You get them from hardmode

Hardmode is daily times

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but helena is off tanking? so sanrui goes to fleet 2?

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That's fine, sanrui will be tankier than London though

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I kinda want to make a fleet around Noshiro tbh since she is waifu and I've heard she is a good off-tank

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Noshiro can tank mob fleets

She can also be used in PvP if that's your thing

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I adore pvp

but idk what fleets are good in pvp so im just winging it atm

also most people are just way stronger so i dont bother playing it much

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The pins in #pvp have a spreadsheet that has all of the fleets

It's alot easier later in the game

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so ur saying if I want to build around her it should be a mob fleet

and she should be main tank?

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Not necessarily

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with sanrui offtank?

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But port is your boss tank, sanrui can either tank or off-tank mob and so can noshiro

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whats the best torp dmg dealer in the game atm? to use with noshiro in vanguard?

i was thinking that laffey can slot in there, she seems decent

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Shimakaze by far

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and z23 can sub laffey

in boss fleet

but idk

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Shimakaze has 2 preloaded torps and the highest torpedo stat in the game

And barrages every time she fires torpedoes

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okay, lets not get ahead of myself....I love shima but im probs not getting my hands on her anytime soon 😄 whats the next best

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And her all out assault has even more torpedoes

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Ayanami with augment

Shimakaze and Ayanami are also good for PvP if you wanna get into that

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ah, i see

i get ayanami after i mlb the 3 starters right?

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Yes, she also appears in light build after you get her from that

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cool, should I rush that?

I can do it instant, only missing 1 lb on z23 and all of javelins

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If you want to build a torp meme vanguard sure

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why meme >.<

is it considered bad?

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Z23 gives good fleet tech so you should keep her after mlb, javelin is kinda meh, she doesn't do much. She can be scrapped after mlb

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also technically I'll only be using 1 DD......haha

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Not necessarily, it's just because it's primarily used in manual play to murder bosses

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ahhhh, i've heard that before

is it because the AI is sh*t at aiming?

😄

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Ai can auto aim up close but it's usually half way across the map when it fires torps

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seen that happen to me way too often

and it hurts my eyes

when my best ship atm is laffey

😄

btw from z23 and laffey, I've heard z23 excels at FP for destroyers right?

and laffey is just average at everything?

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Z23 and laffey do similar things. Laffey is a generalist with decent torps, decent guns, decent AA and insane amounts of reload

Z23 is entirely focussed on guns with not great torps and below average AA

Both have a custom augment

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I see, tyty, I'm planning on keeping both

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When all of laffeys skills are activated, she has more than 700 reload

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probs oathing laffey at some point

after prios

haha

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isn't that kinda nuts?

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Yes

Incredibly nuts

Only for a short time though

And it's a random chance as to if the skill activates

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its like 5% activation chance

so rng

for skill one at least

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Her retrofit skill is the majority of the reload buff

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ohh yeah forgot abt retro

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70% chance every 20s for +200% reload

And 5% every time she fires a salvo for +40%

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yeah crazy

im almost done with her retro, mid tier 2 upgrades atm

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Do you do the augment weekly challenge

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this?

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Yeah the Belfast one

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yeah

i realized it exists 3 days ago

and I've been playing for like 12 days 😄

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Keep doing it till you can get laffey augment

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should I get the portland and helena ones now anyway?

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Yes

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alrighty

what prevents suicide boats from hitting my main fleet?

only bb secondaries?

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BB secondaries or your vanguard killing them

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is there a way to make sure my vanguard focuses them? or kills them faster?

except playing manual....

hmm, oki

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