Pyörremrsky and her Blahaj
#artist-lounge
worthy pine
warm ingot
sick ocean
normal scroll
I'm here and still drawing I am working on it I'm just trying to build my motivation to do so
verbal sequoia
So cute
urban sage
Floof
calm karma
Base colour done
plush knot
kind warren
verbal sequoia
2 years ago it looked like this
Fluffy Ears!
serene crow
nin nin! XD
Been a while, but made some progress on Cooper today =] Using a new brush for the hair and it's a devil of a task to learn. XD
just chippin away at her
obtuse mountain
Hey guys, I finally done with the Design for Genderbend ver. Philip & Shotaro from Kamen Rider W. Enjoy.
scenic isle
Fluffy Ears!
Hahaha they are gone, turning them into fake ears now
honest flume
Hey guys, I finally done with the Design for Genderbend ver. Philip & Shotaro fr...
ehem ehem
CYCLONE
JOKER
obtuse mountain
lucid talon
Been a while, but made some progress on Cooper today =] Using a new brush for th...
Yoooo, i was just wondering share you were 
I think you should space out the eyes a little more
scarlet turret
gun
serene crow
Yoooo, i was just wondering share you were <:Glowow:611004137210904579>
Haha still breathing xD been writing a book so all my time has been towards finishing the manuscript xD it’s currently in editing so now i have some time to do other art stuff xD
And I see what you mean. I’ll space em a lil more 🙂 thanks 🙂
languid light
timber hinge
what if its art someone drew for you, but you didnt, like pay them, it was a gift
honest flume
elfin prism
I'm not surprised but at least they will allow users to use ver 1.x perpetually... for now. Likewise, they are slowly moving to what Adobe's been doing and if you want an up-to-date ver of CSP, you will have to opt-in for a subscription plan, either monthly or yearly. No more classic licenses. This means their software has successfully become a live service.
quiet monolith
past badger
if I made money off my art I wouldn’t be too upset about this, but I definitely do not make anything to offset the charges
im glad theyre still offering service for their paid for software
very glad we are still able to use it, I dont need upates for it anyways
sketching, lining, and painting is still perfectly viable for me thankfully
elfin prism
In a way, I haven't been keeping up with all the updates lately, but from what I've seen and what I know, 1.x has more or less everything you need or you'd ever need for creating great art. As long as they keep it available as it was, its fine. The real problem arises when they will try to pull a 180, remove the legacy version and move fully to live service model.
native furnace
they targeting pros
like me
i make money from csp
so yeah i will have to pay for updates
its just annoying
and i hate it
everyone and their mom doing subs
elfin prism
Yes but thats not going to be much of a problem for you, if the pricing will be fair. Likewise, I'm very much against live service model.
elfin prism
Same
native furnace
its a principle issue
im making thousands off each art
paying 2 a month is nothing
but i hate doing it
elfin prism
On one side I understand they need to both sustain themselves as a company and want to earn too, 10 years of free updates for just a single license is quite something and software isn't expensive either.
It's a great program too.
native furnace
yeah but i hate them for joining the model
so i hope they recoil from the backlash
elfin prism
We can hate them as much as we want, doesn't change the fact it's probably unsustainable for them to continue like this in modern day with all the arising issues.
Hence the change.
I can understand that but still...
native furnace
understanding doesn't mean approval
elfin prism
There's this gut feeling somewhere inside that tells me it's not entirely true, nor fair
elfin prism
I mean, they could just state they move on to 2.0 and you will have to pay for it
native furnace
30usd for 10 years of license
im surprised they can survive this long without sub
elfin prism
Its a popular software suite for artists
elfin prism
Maybe not as much as psp, but it also aims at an entirely different demographic
elfin prism
i dont think software sales can offset it
They might be a joint venture company with shareholders; never looked into it, but they probably play on the market and have sponsors as well.
native furnace
yeah that means they have to sustain growth
elfin prism
Eitherway, I'm glad 1.x will remain on a normal license
But the moment they do something unfair, I will roast the hell out of them
In a way, it's a bit sad they don't try to be transparent enough
I just want to know why they think this change is warranted
native furnace
they need money for sure
im completely aware that 30sud for constant updates over x amount of years
is kinda unreasonable
elfin prism
Adobe really pissed me off
I hoped they will keep their legacy versions available and in the beginning they did
Until they decided they won't and purged everything off their websites and servers and furthermore - disabled all the old licensing servers
They literally disallowed us from legally owning and using the software we paid for back then, under that ToS
In many ways, as old as it is, psp6 was good enough if you did traditional painterly style art
Sure, newer versions had many new important features, some very useful
past badger
Eitherway, I'm glad 1.x will remain on a normal license
im okay with the live program because as it stand it seems only pros may use its new features (whatever they may be) so it seems like commercial use fee
the 1x version still available to use and is still perfect for normal person
but what you say about 180 does give me a frighten, csp loves to help users learn its program, so deep down I hope they wont remove features over time but with big money you never know
past badger
also I pay for csp ipad monthly, it is fine honestly even if I dont make money from my drawing, I kind of use it commercially but not directly
it is only $5 and they do have regional pricing
elfin prism
You know, as long as pricing is fair, it's fine
5$ isn't much for something you use a lot, especially if you use it professionally
past badger
I use ipad to make emote art , so in a way I am using commercially, it a software helps me make art for my job, therefore I am fine to pay for it
elfin prism
The problem is how much we can trust them from now on they will keep it all as they used to
And in a way, won't start stretching and probing how far they can go with milking their userbase
past badger
my job is streaming, without emotes and it allowing me to make art for my channel, I would be in debt from all the artists I have to pay to do something for me 
yep, I can hear a very loud vocalness from people that make thousands, up to 6 figures off their art that use this program complaining about it though
elfin prism
Thats kinda funny
past badger
problem with licensing fee/commercial pricing is that csp cannot control rich people who try to cheese the system to make more money by refusing to pay simple fee
elfin prism
I'd be grateful instead, personally speaking
past badger
but there are people like myself who choose to pay for commercial licenses on things like LIVE2D because I would be using it commercially
elfin prism
If software I use to make such money off asks me to pay 5$ a month to support them, it's a no brainer
past badger
I will I honestly pay my royal dues lol
elfin prism
and hobbyists won't need anything beyond 1.x
past badger
yes $5 is very minimal, but this is for ipad 1x (which will receive 2x benefits if ipad tech allows) and reportedly no price change just for csp Pro
elfin prism
1.x is fantastic as it stands right now, prolly the best suite on the market you can buy for that price
past badger
I own both pc and ipad csp, and can interchangeably use my icloud between them, I gladly use the $5 
elfin prism
the amount o functionality CSP offers at their pricing is incredible
and it has fantastic tools for many a hobbyist you possibly wouldn't be able to get at this price range either
without paying hundreds of $$$
Here's hope they will keep their end of bargain and won't purge 1.x in the future
past badger
not to mention csp holds 50% sales every year multiple times a year
elfin prism
In worst case, there's SAI as well
timber hinge
@past badger if you still lurking can you answer my question from earlier?
past badger
check pins
timber hinge
oh oki, well it wasnt like a twitter or anything, jsut posted in discord, and theyre not a professional artist so..
you mightve seen it in #off-topic earlier
scarlet crest
quiet monolith
tranquil wing
Corporatism is cancer
light flint
say no to corporatism
say yes to corpiratism
ripe olive
Metaverse... D: noooooo!
elfin prism
You all might be wondering why csp is going full adobe
bloody hell
I wonder exactly why are they joining with an american "metaverse" company, for what reason, what purpose? All current experiences show metaverse is an idea the world is not yet ready for, its completely unfeasible and doesn't bring in substantial profits to warrant pursuing on a mass scale.
languid light
https://twitter.com/krita_painting/status/1561629411409100801?s=21&t=zpOw9MsnxVg1WQpiPrBPUg man even Krita is flaming them 
languid light
I wonder exactly why are they joining with an american "metaverse" company, for ...
Iirc meta verse “bought” csp
And people want money
elfin prism
so they got bought out by basically what is a venture capital?
That's just fantastic 
Well, nothing good will come out of this. We probably just lost one of the best manga/anime oriented software suites on the market.
Ironic, because its exactly what it is - you create a governmental-like entity with financing behind; companies will be forced to join or risk exclusion. The sole purpose of this is to dictate both technology and business standards to the market; standards that will benefit this entity to grow and earn even more capital.
The only good thing about all of this is that Metaverse is basically a pipeline dream concept at this point... at least for now. Eitherway, it means Celsys won't be free anymore to take their own decisions and will have to respond to the needs and requirements of this organisation in the near future.
In practice you can mark my words they will milk us and it's not going to be even Celsys' fault. They simply became a stock good. Someone probably did earn a lot of money from this, though.
Oh well 
ripe olive
i guess i'll have to check out the other programs to see how their comic/manga paneling is like.
tranquil wing
i guess i'll have to check out the other programs to see how their comic/manga p...
Stick witb sai or try out krita
elfin prism
In a way, in their defence, I'll say that CSP became more or less feature complete with the recent updates. Anything that comes that might be actually substantial is potential technological updates. As long as they keep 1.x available as they did until now, I wouldn't fret that much about. Yeah it doesn't bode well for the future of the entire company, but vast majority of people cares about their software, not Celsys.
tranquil wing
Or not updating csp at all
elfin prism
you don't have to, if you don't upgrade aka buy the new monthly plan, you stay on 1.x
1.x will keep receiving the last incoming updates and will be marked as feature complete final release for basic commercial license use
They did deliver everything they promised 🤔
inb4 ai-driven safeguard that will detect what you're drawing and boot you out if its lewd lolis 
tranquil wing
Lol people asked what does metaverse have to do with csp?...
Well look at World Economic forums and compare the goals and mission
Lmao
elfin prism
its all the same
tranquil wing
Literally the same but metaverse is for digital artists, creators and wef is economics and politics
Both want money
Always follow the money
ripe olive
i hope they wont start peeking at your wips... wait, they already do lol.
elfin prism
I've yet to know what the entire true idea behind this Metaverse is, but it's probably their way to influence the digital creators and force their standards on everyone
If this grows, similar to WEF, as a company you will be forced to join in or risk complete market exclusion. more business = more money. They will start funding or literally bribing companies to join them with money and enforce their rules. This might create a world where companies that produce goods or services within this market won't have to answer to their customers anymore.
It's basically a legal loophole to circumvent customers, similar to what Blackrock has been doing for a longer while.
Companies don't need to worry about creating things that sell any more, because these funds are paying for them, not the customers.
It's used as a leverage to promote and enforce certain political or ideological themes.
languid light
Meta verse already has a lot of big companies
Like insta
I’m a bit confused still though cus I already do the csp monthly plan
But as long as they don’t add those goofy 3D avatars 
I’d love to switch but all I can really do is send feedback since csp is the studio that works best for me
ripe olive
looks like i'll remain in 1.x as always until further notice.
light flint
i guess i'll have to check out the other programs to see how their comic/manga p...
paru looking for another program to use only one layer on smh
ripe olive
elfin prism
🤔
tbh, amateurs and hobbyists don't really need much outside of sai in terms of functionality; sai does have nice brush algorithms, though.
languid light
glad i made the rigging a seperate layer
hardy solar
Bisko pog
serene crow
Some WiP character designs for a book cover project I’m working on
sick ocean
ripe olive
swift nest
https://www.clipstudio.net/en/news/202208/22_01/
I'm late to this news but dang looks like the only frontier for one-time payment software is Paint Tool SAI. But there's always Krita which is the one I've been using mainly.
elfin prism
I'm late to this news but dang looks like the only frontier for one-time payment...
That's true, unfortunately. Likewise, I hope SAI will always remain that but it kind of grew for that market as well; a hobbyist tool made exactly to counter the issue of not having a decent, fair-priced drawing software for hobbyists.
The only thing it lacks nowadays is a dedicated manga suite like CSP.
Doesn't mean it cannot be used for that purpose. It just means you'll have to put in a bit more work into organising your own workload.
But that goes for pretty much every software out there, even Paint.
swift nest
This part is REALLY concerning ngl. They even said there may be issues with the editing across different versions, that would split the whole userbase.
elfin prism
I guess it depends on what exactly is going to go in 2.x
Likewise, if you're not going to use them then there might be no reason to move from 1.x 🤔
Devs are definitely aware of that; after all, if there's going to be no incentive to move on from 1.x, no one will subscribe to the new model or support 2.x
My worries are there might be a couple more new crucial features they planned for 1.x they will specifically move to 2.x to encourage or even force their users to upgrade
so far, they were always fair but with current evolution of events, it might be the end of it as from now on they have to respond to someone else than themselves
swift nest
Yeah that's kind of what I've been worrying as well. If I were to think in the long run, the fear of missing out is going to be bigger with time. And it will push people to give in and subscribe anyway.
elfin prism
Yes, although it might really depend on functions and how much more "limited" 1.x will feel
The biggest issue that comes with it is obviously a matter of obsolescence
With passing months and years we will definitely see new tech and CSP will definitely want to build around them to stay competitive on the market
limber harbor
I’m not going to have my iPad for awhile cause my sister broke her laptop sum how and will need my iPad until it’s repaired
So a lot of projects have been put on hold
But I did manage to make this
It is still a work in progress
elfin prism
Manjuu juice, freshly squeezed
toxic bobcat
Manjuuice
honest flume
ripe olive
ripe olive
light flint
that went from cute to killer real quick
tranquil wing
Well that was a disaster
potent orbit
wip
verbal sequoia
https://puu.sh/JhtOm.jpg
So cute
potent orbit
yeah it is
verbal sequoia
Aww, I wuv her and her cute hiccups
ripe olive
scarlet crest
wip, this is too painful, csp free trial has spoiled me too much
analog merlin
wip, this is too painful, csp free trial has spoiled me too much
oh my word, extremely gorgeous wip you got so far
can't wait to see the final product
scarlet crest
unfortunately it's gonna go downhill from here since idk how to color hair/clothes 
analog merlin
unfortunately it's gonna go downhill from here since idk how to color hair/cloth...
either way, im excited cause that is just too damn good, the shading quality and lighting is really well done.
fervent cliff
wip, this is too painful, csp free trial has spoiled me too much
Give me your Skill
scarlet crest
i dont have enough
fervent cliff
i dont have enough <:UniHurt:588629689351012381>
What do you mean
You had it all
Unlike me
limber harbor
What do you mean
Guys don't say that about yourselves
Both if your art works are amazing!
Of*
If we keep putting ourselves down we won't be getting anywhere
Besides
I find both of your artworks cute
warm ingot
lucid talon
"where's my pizza?"
Fox girl with suspiciously pizza-shaped cheeks: "Idk"
light flint
If we keep putting ourselves down we won't be getting anywhere
i dont think there exists an artist that doesnt put themselves down for making masterpieces
urban sage
I should draw something
Okay, so
I think I should do some mechanical design for my "Leviathan" story concept
Probably design these absolutely massive undersea use mechs
Like, pull a UC Gundam
But with deepwater submersibles
OOH
Torpedo revolvers
elfin prism
In regards to latest CSP shenanigans: https://youtu.be/gtD4QfD-b-Q
silver briar
Is this okay?
analog merlin
Sporatic Concepts from Somewhere Nowhere
lucid talon
In regards to latest CSP shenanigans: https://youtu.be/gtD4QfD-b-Q
i still get to keep my one time purchase license right?
😰
orchid laurel
If we keep putting ourselves down we won't be getting anywhere
honestly tho
100% agree w this
be proud of how far you've come, artists
skill dont just pop out of thin air, its cuz of practice and perseverance
just keep going and do what yall love doing
urban sage
I did some more thinking
So, bone can be melted and poured in reduced pressure environments
The story takes place in a setting that has suits than can independently maintain 1 atmosphere
These are used for maintenance work near geothermal vents
Ergo, I should be able to have pumps and a factory specifically for melting and shaping bone in this setting, right?
Reduce pressure, melt bone
Mold it into armor panels and stripclips/speedloaders
swift nest
In regards to latest CSP shenanigans: https://youtu.be/gtD4QfD-b-Q
Here's my final hot take:
If one wants to be treated like a step child then they can choose to stay with the perpetual versions (1.x to 2.0).
But I feel this is how it's gonna turn out:
-They could "push" you into subscribing by ad pop-ups and fear of missing out,
-(A bit stretching it but it's possible) "accidentally" making the old 1.x-2.0 version a buggy mess of a software when the later versions came out.
-and the worst is just removing the old versions entirely (they can promise to keep them available but promises can be broken).
The backlash doesn't mean anything to them. They knew they could take it and they're going with the plan.
I suggest people who wants to protest for real, to actually switch to a different software. Easier said than done I know, but it is what it is.
urban sage
Mold it into armor panels and stripclips/speedloaders
Main rifle is a straight pull bolt action hyper velocity torpedo launcher with an internal box magazine
Is this feasible?
Or has my bullshit for cool underwater robot gone too far?
Heavy weapon is a compressed air initialized coil acceleration discarding sabot harpoon gun that fires from the shoulder
elfin prism
i still get to keep my one time purchase license right?
You do, but it's going to be only for the current available versions, aka 1.x. After that they are perma-switching to a subscription-based model.
lucid talon
might have to switch back to krita then
limber harbor
me just using their old version & never updated it
Me Still watching ads on ibispaintX to access brushes
sullen juniper
pain peko
coral sky
I'd watch ads on ibis paint if my phone actually loaded the close ad button
So I'm just using free brushes
solemn saffron
Tried to make a Plymouth drawing cos I like her design
elfin prism
Man, this CSP hoopla blew up quite a bit
I've seen even very famous artists who use CSP as their main tool voicing their vehement dislike for this move
In all honesty, they could just state they plan to move for CSP2; we'd buy a new license and ride for a couple more years until CSP3 or whatever else they were planning to do.
At this point they are just trying to hold artists hostage because a lot of veterans have been using it for years and have much of their workflow baked into the software; moving from it elsewhere will be a massive pain in the ass.
coral sky
Tried to make a Plymouth drawing cos I like her design
Oh that looks neat
scarlet turret
man sculpting is pain in the ass
scarlet turret
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/989958732358254603/1012152384341934111/...
renown?
hardy solar
yep meta
fervent cliff
warped turtle
warm ingot
gusty thicket
working on a really old piece this week
haven't worked on this in about a year
i also have an amagi piece in the work in progress folder lmao
also i am aware that my art style tends to vary from time to time, if y’all would like to see a timelapse please let me know
ripe olive
heavy raptor
limber harbor
A lot of my works feature backgrounds in them
But for Blücher I don’t know what to do for her
Any ideas?
lucid talon
I feel like… I do
scenic isle
I feel like… I do
dm me and lets see if u got it
scenic isle
doesnt have to be the artist name
hardy solar
uwoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
stiff mesa
Played a random "Ingredients" game. made him this
the pose looks stiff cuz i dont know what pose is proper for a miko lol
honest flume
honest flume
Thanks
calm karma
gusty thicket
joisey
untold crypt
I nearly fked up the face when I was still sketching her, good that I made the face more like an anime
fervent cliff
swift nest
verbal sequoia
❤️
warm ingot
reminded myself i needed to draw vampire while i was doing some sketches so i used one them for her (wip)
urban sage
;) if u know the art style then u know it
Bandwidth...?
scenic isle
Bandwidth...?
nope :)
urban sage
scenic isle
scenic isle
its not a japanese art style thats for sure
urban sage
scenic isle
urban sage
Manhwa?
scenic isle
yes sirr
scenic isle
urban sage
Somehow I almost perfectly copied the style of Katsuhiro Otomo once
Completely by accident
Chin was slightly too sharp
And it needed a bit more hatching
But this does successfully pin my art style as late 80s early 90s
Sometimes dipping hard into the late 70s for whatever reason
urban sage
Yes yes
I’m also an old anime elitist and I don’t care
Low budget now just looks lazy
Low budget then, you knew they tried
Cel animation is a painful process.
I respect those who did it that way back then.
The advent of advanced CGI crippled the mecha genre.
scenic isle
yeah old anime does look way better to nowadays from time to time
scenic isle
The advent of advanced CGI crippled the mecha genre.
old gundam?
urban sage
old gundam?
Yeah
I built the Zeong and the Gelgoog S Type HGs yesterday
And day before that
scenic isle
I built the Zeong and the Gelgoog S Type HGs yesterday
thats sick
i want to get the rg wing gundam zero ew seraphim feather
urban sage
thats sick
Posted in #off-topic
sturdy forge
kind warren
golden anvil
rigid cedar
forest talon
scarlet turret
hot
vernal talon
@forest talon hihi, NSFW rules still apply to this channel, your brunhilde is a bit too much for this server
fervent cliff
honest flume
honest flume
well goodbye to that artwork I guess <:Shybuki:585585240932876329>
Nooooo
calm karma
she thicc
warm ingot
it was originally just some pose sketch stuff and then i reminded myself i needed to draw vampire again
kind warren
icy rose
fervent cliff
😳
stiff mesa
Thighs. Sorry i mean thats a very hot girl 
fervent cliff
Wip
kind warren
kind warren
scarlet crest
how do you make your characters so cute 
elfin prism
I'd say the eye/nose/mouth ratio is also important, there's a lot of quirks involved in placement and size which can work for that kind of feel
Rounder and softer faces typically carry much more of that appeal
scenic isle
Put some big eyes hahaha
kind warren
scarlet crest
scenic isle
Chibi face
lunar swift
now this is cute
potent orbit
wip
swift nest
heart pupils
fervent cliff
honest flume
jk prinz eugen | Chickenartist #pixiv https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/100860774
elfin prism
Hmm, rip pixiv
Various folks were warning about this coming, guess it's true now: https://www.pixiv.co.jp/2022/08/29/151054 It's quite ironic how this is being framed, though.
I guess the only truly free remaining place from now on will be Mastodon/Pawoo, japanese artists will have more of an incentive to decentralise
We're going to return to late 80's/early 90's type of fandom soon enough if this continues in such pace
untold crypt
Various folks were warning about this coming, guess it's true now: https://www.p...
Maybe translate it for us
swift nest
elfin prism
Maybe translate it for us
Announcement is both in jp and english, scroll to the bottom
It's kinda hard to find, no surprise either; people typically don't check these websites, nor dig that far
native furnace
so pixiv going woke?
untold crypt
Does it really mean no more posting NSFW(R18) drawings since it's about anti harassment policy? I only posted 1 set of my drawings, actually 4 of them
And i think my time would only be very short lived if they revoke those content
swift nest
I think removing R18 stuff would be the end of Pixiv but the post doesnt seem to talk about it
untold crypt
Maybe it's users who comment abusive words on artists or doing other forms of harassment
But still i do wish R18 doesn't get banned 
Pixiv is like one of the only sources where people can show off their drawings, and if they gone too far with the rules...
elfin prism
You can look at the corporations that introduced ESG directives to best know where is this going
All didn't end... well for them, to say the least
languid light
What do the declarations say
elfin prism
But as I mentioned earlier, the entire point of ESG is to remove the customer from the circulation
languid light
I can’t translate it
limber harbor
So we won't be able to use pixiv anymore?
elfin prism
languid light
Oh ok thanku
What I’m reading is
No more harassing artists & pixiv trying to be more inclusive in the work environment
Basically
Twitter moment
limber harbor
There is a harrassment problem on Pixiv?
elfin prism
Its not about artists
languid light
Ah
elfin prism
It's about the corporate environment
Which means diversity hires and entire diversity squads having a decisive point at key corporate elements
limber harbor
I see
languid light
Ultimate Twitter moment
elfin prism
In longer run it means the same thing as everywhere else - clamping down on 'problematic' stuff
languid light
imo depends on what they deem problematic
limber harbor
Well considering that information
elfin prism
you know what problematic means, exactly well
limber harbor
Expect a lot of R-18 stuff is about to get a hit
languid light
If I’m being honest no there’s some stuff where I’m confused 
Some stuff yeah I understand
Like the obvious stuff
elfin prism
In case of pixiv, its entire tags and galleries, from loli/shota, guro, rape to entire nsfw and 18+ sections; they will either get heavily restricted or nuked off the site entirely.
languid light
Oh that’s what they mean
limber harbor
That's understandable
languid light
^
elfin prism
No, it's not what they mean. It's what it means.
Pixiv is prolly the last official web service that allows full freedom of expression for their artists, bar the japanese genitalia censorship
With ESG in play, they will have no other choice as to slowly restrict and remove it as ESG requires it.
You don't get the funding otherwise and skimming around the rules might get you permanently excluded.
languid light
hmm
Could they possibly work around it by making a secluded platform strictly for nsfw ?
elfin prism
The only question now is when and how it'll happen
elfin prism
Could they possibly work around it by making a secluded platform strictly for ns...
Doubt so
They simply can't
ESG does not allow it
languid light
wack
elfin prism
They theoretically could, but that would mean they are ready to take a big hit in terms of the score they'll get
And in overall, it might not be worth it in the longer run
In all honesty, all the recent developments - first with CSP and now Pixiv make the future look quite dim
languid light
I like to call this the metaverse-ification of things, even if metaverse is not involved
Mostly because I dislike the metaverse
elfin prism
It's kind of going that way
I'd say it's what they actually want and they don't even need to do much, they just set a couple global standards and 'encourage' everyone to get onboard
languid light
Hopefully it blows over at some point
elfin prism
Ulitimately, everyone will lose their freedom in the process
elfin prism
Hopefully it blows over at some point
Metaverse is kind of a flop... for now. Who knows how things might look like in the next 10-15 years.
Objectively looking, it's just another way for very large corporations to directly control the vast chunk of global market.
languid light
Maybe it’ll be the same as nfts
How everyone was hype abt them
Then they kinda died
elfin prism
But nfts didn't really die and they weren't new
It's just this particular idea that went off like a big bang
languid light
Just haven’t seen them as much
elfin prism
I'd say it was more of an easy ponzie scheme for a particular group of people to capitalize on suckers
Blockchain in itself is an incredible tech that simply doesn't have much of an use yet
languid light
Tru tru
elfin prism
Anyway, I'd recommend everyone to keep their eyes peeled on the evolving situation. I don't like to be the doom bearer, but this looks way to close to similar situations that already took place and had rather devastating effects on various communities. It's probably way too early for people to be discussing this in the open, but I'm sure there's going to be some sort of backlash from the japanese art community coming sooner or later.
languid light
I did a funny in bio the other day
elfin prism
I'm sure that - for as long as they're paying pixiv money - they won't be too fond of Pixiv literally wasting years of their hard work building their communities, contacts with fans and art portfolios just for all of them to suddenly disappear.
untold crypt
Not related, but I do think that's what happened in anime for the last year(since 2021)
So much for their reputation, the shows are becoming lackluster and if that's the best they could do to animate I'd just keep a step away from its lore
Just no more entertainment to show there, that's why
elfin prism
I wouldn't say so that much about anime, but it's clearly visible in western entertainment from the past 6-8 years
Certain fandoms have been completely driven to the ground, though
And look at DC & Marvel
Meanwhile, here I am looking at Louis' Royo's art
sullen juniper
anime on Gits Lvls when
verbal sequoia
Something I’m sketching to go with that cute “Cinnamoroll Miku” (or Cinnamiku) thing trending lately.
untold crypt
Yeah it's her bday today
verbal sequoia
Cool
lunar swift
potato chip ribs
stiff mesa
||Cut your nails 
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kind warren
||Cut your nails <:Smilebuki:666111439265726465>||
||no||
verbal sequoia
So cute
warm ingot
funny twitter trend """"outfit"""""" wip
velvet folio
hey guys, I just heard about the pixiv news and i'm a little confused on the situation, could someone give me a tldr if possible?
vocal brook
funny twitter trend """"outfit"""""" wip
Suprised this is even allowed here but HOT
vocal brook
hey guys, I just heard about the pixiv news and i'm a little confused on the sit...
What happened? I havent heard any news?
elfin prism
hey guys, I just heard about the pixiv news and i'm a little confused on the sit...
You can look above, I wrote about it and we had a little bit of a discussion about it
At this point it's hard to tell. It depends a lot on how Pixiv - as a japanese company - will approach the subject matter but judging from history and experience based on other companies which already implemented ESG standard, it probably won't end well.
There is literally nothing in it that benefits the users, only company and as much as it affects only the internal staff, it's a ground ripe for misuse and might lead to "seeping out" in terms of various ideologies it aims to promote which might have incredibly negative impact on user experience.
One thing that's common is the company is literally forced to create a diversity & inclusion board, which typically gets staffed by ideologues promoted from outside through various means. Those people sport often sport a mindset which is completely in opposite to values generally honoured by japanese userbases.
Not to mention it does not exclude the possibility of a takeover, where such people try to enrich or enforce the company values by introducing their own sets of rules; in case of pixiv, I can't see a single way it would go well for the entire platform in that case.
Approach this entire thing with a grain of salt. It's quite possible - like in many cases of japanese businesses operating on their own rules - this will pretty much end at internal levels, but there is a possibility it might affect the way company will start enforcing particular policies.
One such possibility is that in terms of ESG requirements, they will be forced to slowly limit and/or nuke the entire nsfw sections and along with it, obviously a plethora of different categories of artwork, including stuff like loli/shota, incest, porn, guro etc. From the comments already popping up on the jp interweb users are concerned it might lead to restricting the artistic freedom of expression; some said there is a possibility if things go awry, Pixiv might see an exodus of large part of its current userbase.
I think it's important to at least consider, as from general perspective - if you're a professional who uses Pixiv for your art business and growth, it might affect your future.
Not much aside from that, though; I guess we'll have to wait and see how Pixiv implements the new policies and what sort of impact they'll have on the company and their platform.
warm ingot
Suprised this is even allowed here but HOT
Thanks 
I got many more on my twitter/pixiv
velvet folio
@elfin prism ahh I see, thanks for the summary! Hopefully things don't go south
scenic isle
I did a funny in bio the other day
u got the lipid part right though :D
languid light
Truly all I know is lipid = yummy food
warm ingot
hardy basalt
honest flume
drowsy elm
looks more like a genshin chara
lucid talon
It's not noelle
it's rem
same hair accessories
same clothes
hairstyle
it has to be her
untold crypt
Took you a while to color it eh 
verbal sequoia
What?
verbal sequoia
AWWW, FLUFFY MAID! ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
honest flume
untold crypt
What?
I mean i saw the sketch a day ago and it isn't even a few days coloring it and it's done
verbal sequoia
The sketch took longer for me
untold crypt
It is indeed difficult to sketch from clean sheet tbh, the perspective sometimes becomes unproportional
limber harbor
Just need to do Blücher’s hair
And I didn’t forget Bunker, still working on her
And once I’m done with both of them I’ll finish this off
scarlet turret
fish
vernal talon
native furnace
nahida 😭
light flint
she is, its just a weird illusion because 2d has no depth
lucid talon
😭
languid light
Not much aside from that, though; I guess we'll have to wait and see how Pixiv i...
Reading discussions about the pixiv situation, I think it’s only for workplace
Because of an incident that happened there
But I can see where people are coming from about art censorship
elfin prism
It always began from that
The fact they mentioned ESG in this case is the actual concerning factor; normally, it should have nothing to do with anything.
ESG exists for only one purpose - to get funding from western financial groups and in-grouping in exchange for political obedience
I'm not surprised people began to voice their concerns when Pixiv just flat out admitted they went ESG route; lets be honest - they aren't doing it to battle workplace abuse or support minorities. No one does, no one cares. Businesses only care about money.
kind warren
uncut patio
I like this a lot
stiff mesa
Did a gendermorph from my school's magazine....i love the outcome 
Also, one more spot to fill. that 2nd lady isnt finished yet 
urban sage
I have named the mecha in Leviathan
They are known as Vectors
And squads/teams are referred to as Sigma
For the sake of identification and individualism, there are monikers assigned to each Sigma in a given function
So there will be no two active Vector Sigma sharing the same moniker
Sigma of different disciplines could share a moniker, though
Computers are rudimentary, sonar is advanced, and electricity is king
urban sage
oh my god my braincells are screaming reading this
Sigma is based on the mathematic notation
Not the whole "Sigma male" bullshit
The idea is that it's a name for something that is ultimately the sum of its parts
I passed Integral Calculus
Good screaming or bad screaming?
Because like
You try repairing advanced computers when you're stuck at barotraumatic depths
No shit you'd have to downgrade.
and there's always hydrothermal vents for heat, steam, and therefore electricity
Barring the saltwater reaction
The science doesn't need to be exact, just logical enough to be reasonable enough to follow without giving it the Film Theory shakedown
The question is it is easier to produce PVC or ferromagnetic coated plastic
or is all music just played live?
Leviathan is the third stage.
Chariclea is the second
and Audra was the first
Establish the self, establish the desire, create a world
sullen juniper
ooh looks nice
honest flume
tender mango
nice predator bro it's really good
warm ingot
vocal brook
MofuMofu friday 
FumoFumo friday 
honest flume
KURISTIIIINNAAAAA
formal wasp
serene crow
Photography Time <:UniHappy:666111460144971777>
Very pretty! 🙂 good shots!
normal scroll
Photography Time <:UniHappy:666111460144971777>
🖤
stiff mesa
Tq 
normal scroll
I am now doing a Israeli tank
orchid laurel
new painting style 
normal scroll
new painting style <:RichelieuThink:911039681968341032>
Absolutely lovely
It looks cute and good
normal scroll
https://twitter.com/requinn_/status/1565637194508750853?s=20&t=6TJGYyWK-oK9MW95b...
big fox
normal scroll
<:mofulay:929656326789931058>
good job
warm ingot
thank you! 
silver briar
Well, I made a 7 km long spaceship heavily based off the USS Reliant, and then Azur Lane'd it. I think her human form is quite good
scenic isle
trying to make a new oc, this is what i got so far
stuck moth
Hello, there I can post only azur lane art or any? : o
fickle aspen
hmm i dunoo maybe anything
fickle aspen
TRY checking the rules if its okay
quiet monolith
as long as it’s your own art you can post that here
stuck moth
TRY checking the rules if its okay
Where I can get the rules? Please
fickle aspen
you cant post pic?
stuck moth
From drag&drop not ;<
fickle aspen
i think you need to get the artist role
stuck moth
How can I get that? : o
sullen juniper
pins are your friend
stuck moth
I'm new in here
fickle aspen
the pin button top right
fickle aspen
pinned messages
stuck moth
which one?
sullen juniper
the ones from restart
stuck moth
top of top? Need to list?
stuck moth
Ah, okie. I just try to examine rules :D
Thank you.
there, right?
I'm not about comms, but about requests so ;>
stuck moth
I want to draw request for myself only that ;<
So.. what I want to know? :x
My quote is enough?
or not?
stuck moth
👀 👀 👀
I properly say about requests? :D
Requests it's free commissions, commissions it's payed request somehow :D
🐑
it's me
sorry for that
sullen juniper
well i'm always happy if someone draws a Laffey
stuck moth
So.. it's okay if I am to ask in al-general for request and draw and post at al-general and there? :>
stuck moth
you should be fine as long as you don't break the nsfw stuff in <#70192343103320...
Thank you for rules! 😌
stuck moth
I need ask there requests? ;>
vernal talon
@stuck moth hihi not sure if you figured it out and i'm a bit late, but to post art here you'll need to get the lil-artist role from #bot-spam
scenic isle
i already sent a form for artist role
honestly that role just makes you "stands out more" if you know what i mean
and commission request
obtuse mountain
Hey guys, I just done with the Line Sketch for Rider Girl Double New Poster style in A3 Size. Stay tuned for the Full Colour Version
fickle aspen
honestly that role just makes you "stands out more" if you know what i mean
Hope they decline it
high knoll
this is quite old, if i recall i did it on google canvas i hope its not too much
languid light
Gorillaz released a new song, used it as my inspo
silver briar
I made fox
verbal sequoia
Drawing Sarah, Momoka, and Mol from Gundam Build Divers.
The only Gundam series I enjoy, on the account that it has CUTENESS in it.
I hate all other Gundam shows. They aren’t cute like Build Divers is
verbal sequoia
Anyone else here seen Build Divers?
lavish gull
you guys like Rivals of Aether right
urban sage
Build Divers mid
verbal sequoia
Build Divers mid
What’s that supposed to mean?
urban sage
What’s that supposed to mean?
Mid tier at best
verbal sequoia
But it’s cute
urban sage
I don’t want cute
verbal sequoia
And the battles are cool
urban sage
I want the horrors of war
verbal sequoia
I watched the old Gundam back on Toonami when I was in grade school and I hated it
urban sage
Because time changes perspective and appreciation?
verbal sequoia
I could see me hating something I liked when I was younger but not the other way around.
urban sage
I used to be a Potter fan and now I think it’s nothing special.
urban sage
I also didn’t enjoy Tom Sawyer originally
verbal sequoia
I still don’t like it
urban sage
But on recent reread it got better
verbal sequoia
I want cuteness and action
urban sage
Same for Lord of the Rings
verbal sequoia
The only things that give me enjoyment.
urban sage
I want cuteness and action
Go watch maho shoujo
verbal sequoia
Like what Azurlane does
urban sage
That is literally built on cuteness and action
verbal sequoia
And what Gundam Build Divers does
verbal sequoia
That is literally built on cuteness and action
I do and I like it.
urban sage
They didn’t make a Camouf kit and I am still salty about it
Since that’s one of my favorite One Year War suits
verbal sequoia
Well except the newer unnecessary installments of that series
urban sage
Maho Shoujo is a genre
Magical girls
Now if only they’d do that with older women than teenagers at best
verbal sequoia
Well there’s only one Magical Girl show that’s cute and action
All others are just Uncute Valley girl stuff and non-action-packed Stock Footage
verbal sequoia
Maho Shoujo is a genre
By the genre there’s only one I like. I watched others and they are not cute and action packed
urban sage
Someone hasn’t dived deep
verbal sequoia
And even that one I don’t like to talk about a lot because some people get angry about it
urban sage
I’m out on the edge of the continental shelf here
But looking to plunge into the abyss
Makaryuudo Demon Hunter has cute girl and action
Urusei Yatsura does sometimes
It’s literally the premise of Ranma 1/2
Well, part of it
urban sage
It’s a magical girl, wdym?
The curse is magic
Ranma is a magical girl
There’s even a transformation!
verbal sequoia
My friends say it isnt plus he's more like a guy who turns into a girl.
I watched Sailor Moon, Tokyo Mew Mew, Wedding Peach, Nurse Angel Ririka SOS, Corrector Yui, Winx Club, Star Vs the Forces of Evil, Miraculous Ladybug, and Maho Shoujo Madoka Magica.
Except for Madoka, all of them WERE NOT cute and action packed.
All the others were just un-cute Valley Girls stuff, no action and just Reused Stock Footage over and over, and repetitive Formulaic Power Rangers-like stuff.
verbal sequoia
Well it's the only one that's cute and action packed and video-game-like
No other is cute and action packed and video game like
urban sage
Almost all the Gundam AUs feel like cheap advertisements using the Gundam name for selling power
Unicorn was just utter stupidity
I don’t accept it as part of UC canon
verbal sequoia
I don't care about Horrors of War stuff, or whatever. If it doesn't have Moe' then I have no reason to care.
urban sage
Then get out of Gundam
verbal sequoia
And Build Divers had Moe' in the form of Sarah, Momoka, and Mol
urban sage
We don’t do that here
verbal sequoia
So it's the only one I like
I do not appreciate people telling me to get out because I enjoy the cuteness part of a specific series
urban sage
That cute aspect is an exception
The majority of “waifu” material girls in Gundam are either older women or tomboys or both
verbal sequoia
Sarah is a fluffy young girl who likes to give cuddles and gets hugged a lot.
verbal sequoia
Momoka is a floofy pinku kitty who gets turned into a super cute pink Haro with kitty ears
urban sage
Not because Gundam
verbal sequoia
And Mol is a floofy bunny pet
verbal sequoia
You know what, be that way. I'm just gonna love my cute. And get out if you don't appreciate cute
urban sage
Which makes him... 30 years old?
urban sage
You know what, be that way. I'm just gonna love my cute. And get out if you don'...
Why would I get out of what I never entered?
verbal sequoia
Why do you think I like Azurlane? Because cute and action
urban sage
I’m only here for the milfs
sullen juniper
you guys like Rivals of Aether right
verbal sequoia
I'm here for the fluffy cuddly girls like Unicorn, Laffey, and Queen Elizabeth and such
urban sage
But I’m not the one with the leetspeak username
verbal sequoia
What's wrong with leetspeak?
lavish gull
<:MutsukiHyperStare:588629678017871872> <:LaffeyCantWakeUp:588629688315019298>
LAFFEY FOR ROA BAEBE
quiet monolith
verbal sequoia
It was what my Steam Account name was back when I first started and I keep it because I want my Discord friends to recognize me when I play games with them
urban sage
Imagine not riffing on a theme every new platform
verbal sequoia
Imagine acting like this over a name
lavish gull
It was what my Steam Account name was back when I first started and I keep it be...
just be me and have different names for every single account you have
but its all the same theme (laffey / nep + tendo)
urban sage
^
sullen juniper
are you two discussing art or what are you discussing
urban sage
No idea
lavish gull
anyways how do i make a shipgirl run animation that doesn't look weird
since shipgirls don't really run
they glide on water
verbal sequoia
It started with me drawing a Gundam Build Divers artwork, showing the sketch, and then this guy breaks into how Build Divers is bad and I was telling him otherwise.
sullen juniper
then please not here, even if no one is realy using the channel rn
urban sage
There will be no cute fluffy in Leviathan
sullen juniper
mods will get mad
urban sage
I think I will draw Vector designs on the flight
If anyone has any ideas or concepts to base a fully aquatic mecha on, let me know now
sullen juniper
hmmm if you want an aquantic mecha then i would suggest a sleek design and not a bulky one
lavish gull
have i ever mentioned i have a bunch of shipgirls of sci-fi ships for a scifi spaceship girl idea i have
this is probably one of the only images i have of them that isn't just a bunch of sketches
(and even then none of them have them in gear)
i also have a logo
it comes in both a JP and EN form but i dont feel like posting them yet ;; never mind i just did
lucid talon
That looks like reshiram lmao
scenic isle
That looks like reshiram lmao
HAHAHAHA TRUE OT DOES LOOK LIKE RESHIRAM
verbal sequoia
have i ever mentioned i have a bunch of shipgirls of sci-fi ships for a scifi sp...
Wow. Very cool.
lavish gull
yeah i got shit from SBY to Star Wars with Gundam and Space Invaders in between
yes i have an anime girl of the space invaders ship
verbal sequoia
yes i have an anime girl of the space invaders ship
If I could make a suggestion. Add the Millenium Falcon’s side cockpit as either a different sleeve or a hair accessory.
lavish gull
its a part of her Shipgirl gear
its just not drawn yet
lavish gull
A lot of the missing parts on most of the girls of Star Maidens can probably be assumed to be part of their gear
also yes
haven't drawn her, i have great fox drawn instead (who is an anime boy)
verbal sequoia
How about an anime girl of SOPHIA from Blaster Master?
lavish gull
i think that's more of a tank than a spaceship
verbal sequoia
Yeah but still a cute-ified futuristic vehicle and it even has a woman’s name.
lavish gull
yeah Star Maidens is focused more on spaceships over the tanks and stuff
yeah there are some non Spaceship characters but its few and far between
like Delorean, who is TARDIS' cousin
verbal sequoia
I'd suggest Vic Viper but that's covered in Otomedius
Hmm, R-Type I don't think was in that.
safe spruce
Damn
vocal brook
Star trek enterprise when
hardy solar
seiba and her sistah META
scarlet crest
random figure practice
potent orbit
new wip, bg pretty much done
serene crow
Made a little more progress on Cooper, mostly getting the hang of her hair. Definitely going to take that class on figure modeling Coloso has coming out in a few weeks. .
serene crow
new wip, bg pretty much done
Question: what did you do to get that aurora effect?
potent orbit
just did a white line and a blur brush (made it move more color too) and pulled up on it, color layer for the faint stuff
serene crow
I like it! I'll give that a shot since I have a piece that needs such an effect.
thank you =]
potent orbit
np, good luck!
serene crow
ditto =]
tender mango
Made a little more progress on Cooper, mostly getting the hang of her hair. Defi...
That’s really beautiful
urban sage
hmmm if you want an aquantic mecha then i would suggest a sleek design and not a...
This is at incredibly deep depths
Or rather, extremely high pressure
And the tech is kind of a mixture of late 19th century to late WWII tech
Early 60s at best
So going all sleek like Inyougann will look out of place
serene crow
That’s really beautiful
Thank you 🙂 Working hard!
quiet monolith
obtuse pewter
nice
languid light
verbal sequoia
Finished
Drew Sarah, Momoka, and Mol from Gundam Build Divers.
The only Gundam series I enjoy, on the account that it has CUTENESS in it.
I hate all other Gundam shows. They aren’t cute like Build Divers is
urban sage
Gundam isn’t supposed to be cute
It’s tragic, messy, and totally fucked in its peak form.
Wing fails at this spectacularly.
Seed as well.
As does Unicorn.
Either play by the rules or completely toss them out.
Don’t half ass it.
Build was a blatant advertisement
urban sage
It’s a mistake.
lucid talon
Let the man draw what he wants
urban sage
He can
vocal brook
Yeah chill please
urban sage
I’m just ragging on Build’s existence.
vocal brook
This is literally an azur lane server we are constantly between cute and edginess
urban sage
I just remembered something
I was going to try to make a custom 1/12 scale Enty
But then I got stumped on what models to buy besides 86 Lena
lavish gull
i hope you guys like funny funky game
hardy solar
nice
lavish gull
i hold the opinion that nimi needs more love
as one of the starter squad members she is serverely underrated and underappreciated and like i dont even know why she's one of laffey's friends goddamnit
lucid talon
@limber harbor what art software do you use
if you use something with vector capabilities, you could do your line art on a vector layer and use the various tools to connect and smooth the lines to mitigate the chicken-scratch look
languid light
https://twitter.com/OniiKaps/status/1566868631958462464?s=20&t=La0vlsTDLJ2kcngHnRLdvA I think im just gonna switch over to my sketch style lol
outlinings become tedious
limber harbor
<@582209342653333526> what art software do you use
I use Ibis paint, why do you ask?
potent orbit
doenhttps://twitter.com/carbor_da/status/1566920871859585024?s=20&t=u6aJ45v4fR6JAPlPhKHHuA
high knoll
Not sure if too much booba but 
fickle aspen
high knoll
scarlet crest
testing out krita, csp sale when
high knoll
golden anvil
it looks like shes on the way to the gym 
quiet monolith
lavish gull
funny funky game
fun fact: each arrow animation is based on something
Ayanami's is hard to get since they're based on a Scratch rendition of her
and Javelin is just more the other three combined
but Laffey and Z23 include things for hardcore Azur Lane fans
golden anvil
that looks good
lavish gull
i wonder who can get the references 
short goblet
sullen juniper
hmmm what's this grey blob they are holding is it their turret?
untold crypt
lucid talon
i wonder who can get the references <:BuckySmug:468866539886739465>
fnf
lucid talon
hmmm what's this grey blob they are holding is it their turret?
the little grey blobs are microphones
the animations look to be fnf animations
verbal sequoia
<:HelenaPeek:738588946153603122> https://twitter.com/bukosuki/status/1566984537...
Dawww
toxic bobcat
Su-57?
tender mango
Yes
lavish gull
funny funky game
fun fact: each arrow animation is based on something
Ayanami's...
guess its been long enough
Laffey: Left - the only thing i did forget
Up - Unmotivated Idol
Down - Retrofit
Right - Chibi Idle
Z23:
Left - Retrofit
Down - Volleyball
Up - kfc
Right - Yelling (Anime)
limber harbor
Shading