technology

[flint bobcat]

i mean, this is cheap

[shadow valley]

note 10's too large for my lidl hands so im sticking to basic s10

[tame topaz]

And retain the sound quality

[shadow valley]

it's a add on i guess?

[tame topaz]

Yeah

[subtle hawk]

I'm only interested in the Note series

due to the S Pen

[flint bobcat]

S Pen?

[shadow valley]

fancy pen for the samsung note series

[flint bobcat]

sounds like the apple pen

[shadow valley]

s9 above iirc has a s pen

[subtle hawk]

that pen

[tame topaz]

P E N P R E S S U R E

[flint bobcat]

https://www.amazon.com/Headphones-Yinyoo-Earphones-Detachable-mic/dp/B07Q2RTPFD also is this the right one? gonna buy earphones tmrw

[tame topaz]

Yes

[subtle hawk]

I mean ffs I carry a drawing tablet on me at all times with the laptop

[flint bobcat]

yamato draws?

[subtle hawk]

yes

[tame topaz]

May we see?

[subtle hawk]

finished art school back in middle school

nuh

[tame topaz]

oof

#artist-lounge is there tho lol

[subtle hawk]

nein

my drawings will be lost in history

[tame topaz]

Taking 'em to the grave?

[subtle hawk]

yis

[tame topaz]

why

[subtle hawk]

bcz

I just don't want others to see them

[flint bobcat]

show us

[tame topaz]

[subtle hawk]

I'll show u my uni assignment doe

http://nyamato.ban-hammered.me/i/b3qvp.png

had to test compilation on windows

[flint bobcat]

solutia

[subtle hawk]

yes it's romanian

[flint bobcat]

wait ur romanian

[subtle hawk]

kinda ye

what did u think I'm asian or smth?

[flint bobcat]

well u told us ur in europe so nah

[tame topaz]

Python seems fun so far

[subtle hawk]

python

ew

[tame topaz]

C'mon, what are ya scoffing at?

[subtle hawk]

JS master race

[flint bobcat]

python and java ew

[subtle hawk]

ur ew

java is decent

[tame topaz]

Eh

Gonna learn both in July anyway

[flint bobcat]

my first cs class in college was all java based

[tame topaz]

Too bad I never got to learn pascal

[flint bobcat]

i never listened cause i self taught it when i was young

[subtle hawk]

I should update my scraper to work with the other cough research websites.... yeah let's call it that

[flint bobcat]

and the final was way too easy

yamato

[tame topaz]

Heh, "research"

[subtle hawk]

you tech ppl haven't seen what I made last week

[flint bobcat]

what?

[tame topaz]

For 8th grade we were supposed to learn Pascal

[flint bobcat]

the scraper?

[subtle hawk]

ye

[tame topaz]

But for some reason my school dropped CS at 6th grade

[flint bobcat]

we did see tho

[subtle hawk]

u did

the rest #technology residents didn't

[flint bobcat]

bruh, the HS CS teacher was garbage

literally only taught us basic python

[subtle hawk]

I should add that to nimi as a feature

[flint bobcat]

yamato, u would need to invite us to ur private server then

[tame topaz]

And here I am, stuck being good at nothing except...

Powerpoint.

[subtle hawk]

u mean the test server that's dead?

[tame topaz]

What a fate.

[flint bobcat]

if it can give us the features, i wouldnt call it dead

[subtle hawk]

I've learned pascal in like 5th grade

aids lang

[tame topaz]

oof

[flint bobcat]

i didnt know shit until i was 12

then i did some batch programming

[tame topaz]

Heh, powerpoint

[flint bobcat]

script kiddie crap

[tame topaz]

Good for nothing except boring office jobs

Fun

[flint bobcat]

im building an android app so i can control my LED lights in my room

[tame topaz]

I mean

[subtle hawk]

that's piss ez @flint bobcat

[tame topaz]

I just entered a national competition for freaking MS Office just a month ago

[flint bobcat]

i know

[tame topaz]

So there

[subtle hawk]

I was at a League tournament here

went against bronze and silver skrubs

they got ez clapped

[flint bobcat]

how do u know so much stuff yamato

never asked before

[subtle hawk]

I was expecting a challenge but it was just a roflstomp

curiosity

I wanted to know what's that and I learned it

I'm the jack of all trades

master of none

[quartz atlas]

wired is always better than wireless

im late but eh

[subtle hawk]

@unkempt slate blacklist @flint bobcat

[unkempt slate]

Users Removed

Aria```

[quartz atlas]

/ping

[unkempt slate]

Pong! (Roundtrip took: 137ms. Heartbeat: 80ms.)

[quartz atlas]

[flint bobcat]

[tame topaz]

/ping

[unkempt slate]

Pong! (Roundtrip took: 147ms. Heartbeat: 81ms.)

[subtle hawk]

ye nimi's home was moved

so now she's in the same datacenter as the discord voice server of this guild

[brave anchor]

[severe falcon]

@subtle hawk so i herd you like s pens, check out my bugfix for it

[subtle hawk]

s(crewed) pen

[severe falcon]

Sand or dirt got in the button somehow so it stopped clicking out and the pen got stuck in my phone for a while but now i fixed the problem with violence and a tiny hand vise with a drill bit

[pulsar saddle]

good ol' "beat the hell out of the device until it either works or crashes down for good"

[severe falcon]

Or until it kills itself, like my scanner was doing before i had to give it makeshift protection pads

Turns out 2 million pages scanned equals some pretty deep paper cuts on the cheap plastic squeezers that keep the pages straight

[brave anchor]

i found out MuMu Player actually very good at high graphic game tho

and CN Azur lane have officially bind with MuMu Azur lane player

[molten junco]

lil known irrelevant fact:

before the UI update, you can actually play 60fps AL on mumu

but now, everyone has it so it's nothing special anymore

[brave anchor]

@molten junco Bluestack only support 4GB

Nox abit laggy to AMD ryzen

MuMu so far is best to me

[molten junco]

same here

[brave anchor]

even 16GB , i cant maintain Smooth in NOX

[molten junco]

same resource consumption as when i was using nox, but its optimizations make AL a lot smoother

is that how the new UI feels on nox? @brave anchor

[brave anchor]

yes

[molten junco]

ok, never going back to it

[brave anchor]

when i moving screen in battle, it feel FPS drop

[molten junco]

if mumu's like AL 's official partner or something, then they'd have made specific optimizations for it tbh

[severe falcon]

We need better emulator technology in general

[brave anchor]

my spec run well in MuMu

[severe falcon]

When i lag trying to play twilight princess on gamecube emulator and it chugs at 5 fps on hyrule field, theres a problem

Especially when one core of my processor has more than 5 times the power of the entire gamecube cpu

Oh wait i lied, its not 5 times as powerful

ITS LITERALLY 7

[molten junco]

!

[severe falcon]

So yes, through the power of emulators a 180nm architecture 486 MHz processor is better than 35nm architecture 3.5 GHz core

[molten junco]

plot twist those systems were made to run on trash outdated chips

ppsspp lagged tekken 6 on my 1+3T so im done with any kinda console emus

for now

[severe falcon]

Bruh my cpu IS outdated by todays standard

Its nearly 6 years old

It doesnt even have ryzen in the name

[molten junco]

ooft, upgrading soon?

[severe falcon]

Probably not for a year or two

Im at my comps upgrade limit so im gonna have to get an entire new.system

[molten junco]

at least computers age a lot better compared to other tech

[severe falcon]

Yeah but ive abused this poor thing so much idk how its still alive

[molten junco]

that's just the nature of PCs
imagine using a smartphone for that long

[severe falcon]

My smartphone is 3 years old . . .

Does nokia have anything with a pen? Cuz i like my s pen but i hate the price of samsung

[tame topaz]

Nope

I mean they used to

[severe falcon]

Cuz when people were hating on windows phone, i was laughing with my $100 lumia 635

$100 for a really good smartphone

[tame topaz]

This thing lol

[severe falcon]

EWW WTF

[molten junco]

isn't windows phone like, really smooth with its interface?

[severe falcon]

I mean im talking about windows 8.1 for phone, but even then it was super smooth

And i loved the scrolling main screen

You didnt have pages it was.great

[tame topaz]

One of the key advantages of a modern Nokia phone is Android One

Essentially near-stock Android if you're not in the know

[severe falcon]

Also the quick settings for my lumia were godly

[molten junco]

wait, so windows 8.1 (for a phone) ain't the windows phone os?

shit, i was jebaited all along

[severe falcon]

Not right now no, that was like 5 years ago

Pretty sure its either a version of win 10 or maybe something else, but nokia moved to android

[tame topaz]

Still Windows Mobile

[severe falcon]

The worst part of the win 8.1 phone was its appstore, cuz apparently even with a free development kit that you could just download straight from microsoft, no one knew how to make games for WINDOWS

Literally the best game i had was this unity chan home run derby game that was completely in japanese but it was still the best app i had

[stable sonnet]

Pretty sure

All of the windows phone OS got replaced by a version of windows 10

[severe falcon]

Yeah its win 10 now

Although its now being discontinued and its gonna be just desktop win 10 on the tablets

[flint bobcat]

[subtle hawk]

it's that time of the year

http://nyamato.ban-hammered.me/i/l7nld.png

[subtle hawk]

took me 30 min to update

[valid acorn]

You guys are way far than me

[subtle hawk]

insider

yeah no thx

[valid acorn]

ha ha

its kinda stable for me

[subtle hawk]

kinda stable not good enough for me

[subtle hawk]

me too

I remember one update that make explorer crashes every time it encounters amiga .mod file

because apprently every .mod is a video container

it's soundtracker/protracker format, pretty much

music tracker file holds samples and sequencing data to tell how to play them

[valid acorn]

@subtle hawk You too have Insider?

[subtle hawk]

nope

that .mod crash update made it to stable, yes

[valid acorn]

Am I the only one who has Insider here?

[brave anchor]

doing 1903 update

[subtle hawk]

I'm waiting on 1903 til that win10 ameliorated guy has updated his scripts for it

[stone wave]

meanwhile in 1776...

SOON (tm)
(but im grinding D3 ATM on this PC)

[quartz tide]

So my laptop were infected by a virus its name was mofksys.b how to remove it ? Windows defender cant remove it,it always shown up again in multiple when defender delete it

[subtle hawk]

what windows version

[quartz tide]

Windows 10 home

[subtle hawk]

try to boot into safe mode

and run windows defender

[subtle hawk]

If that doesn't work, burn this to a CD/USB and boot from it
http://download.bitdefender.com/rescue_cd/latest/

[quartz tide]

Dont know what happen, i cant even open start button at second account, only built in admin can do it but it cant open defender because built in admin

[valid acorn]

I got the update the same day as the rest of the so called "stable users". but I decided to push it later due to system issues

[quartz atlas]

are u a pilot by any chance?

[subtle hawk]

he's a insider

probably one of the higher rings

[valid acorn]

Im part of the Insider's Skip Release

Just like these apps too

[quartz atlas]

i meant, aircraft pilot

cuz

aviationmaster

[valid acorn]

Not rlly, I just like aviation

[quartz atlas]

civil or military?

[valid acorn]

civil

[quartz atlas]

fav airliner?

[valid acorn]

Im going to #off-topic for this

[quartz atlas]

aircraft is tech too tho

[valid acorn]

The question is too general

[quartz atlas]

[valid acorn]

If you want to about Avionics, then sure

[subtle hawk]

skip ring

there is no skip ring

there's 5 rings in total

3 of which are available to the public

Release Preview
Slow
Fast
Alpha
Dev

the last 2 are internal ones

[quartz atlas]

you mean the screw got stripped?

[subtle hawk]

Hot

[valid acorn]

@subtle hawk You sure? (sorry for pinging you)

Its limited

[tame topaz]

So essentially you just get the next build right away?

Also

For some reason build 1903 refuses to install for me

[valid acorn]

Yes

[tame topaz]

Can't update essentially

[valid acorn]

I do always get updates every week

[tame topaz]

Yeah, the update progresses really slowly at the preparation phase

Then gets stuck at 85% for a good while when it actually starts to install

Then moves on for a bit then it closes

Saying "failed to update Windows 10"

BUT the Update Assistant keeps chugging along for a bit at 92%

Before spitting out error code 0x80004005

[valid acorn]

Why dont you contact windows

Before shit goes wrong

[tame topaz]

oof

jokes aside, things still run smoothly

[subtle hawk]

@valid acorn that's a setting

part of the Release Preview ring

@unborn flicker only with a screw remover

or there's a DIY way

get a wide rubber and put it in the screw hole and then use the screwdriver to take it out

[valid acorn]

I felt the difference between release preview and skip release

[subtle hawk]

like this

@valid acorn the fall update has A LOT of stuff

did u try some WD40 on it?

[valid acorn]

[subtle hawk]

kek

the superglue will give before the screw

[tame topaz]

So any clues as to why this is happening?

[subtle hawk]

also tried super gluing the screwdriver to the screwhead to no avail

[tame topaz]

that 0x80004005 apparently pertains to Windows Update

Something about its files being corrupted.

Tried doing the steps suggested. No joy.

[subtle hawk]

if not @unborn flicker then I'm afraid you'll need a screw remover tool

and a drill

[tame topaz]

oof

also uh hello?

[subtle hawk]

no idea on ur problem @tame topaz

[valid acorn]

Why do you need a drill

[tame topaz]

F

[subtle hawk]

because he stripped the screw

to for the screw removal tool you need to drill into the screw

[valid acorn]

F

[tame topaz]

OH FUCK

I forgot today is the AMD Computex keynote

Ryzen 9 3900X

12 cores, 24 threads

3.8 base, 4.6 boost

500 bucks

[subtle hawk]

damn

[tame topaz]

Ryzen 7 3800X

8 core, 16 thread

3.9 base, 4.5 boost, 105W TDP

400 bucks

Ryzen 7 3700X

Also 8 core 16 thread

3.6 base, 4.4 boost, 65W TDP

$329

[tame topaz]

F for AdoredTV leak

[gloomy tinsel]

I didn't believe the 5 GHz anyway

It doesn't need 5 GHz, the IPC improvements and move to 7nm suffice

The real winner here is the 3700X, which is competitive with the i9-9900K for significantly less power draw

AMD doesn't need the 16-core one yet, they're probably waiting for Intel to release their 10-core Comet Lake before they unleash that

[subtle hawk]

keep telling yourself that

there's plenty of applications that benefit from high clock speeds

[gloomy tinsel]

I will keep telling myself that; that's how performance works. Remember the Pentium 4 days?

[subtle hawk]

you don't compare a 20-30nm arch with 7

[gloomy tinsel]

The principles are the same

[subtle hawk]

it's not that simple

[gloomy tinsel]

Back then, when Core 2 came out, it was a radically different architecture at lower clock speeds

[subtle hawk]

90% of consumers won't find a use in more than 10 cores

[gloomy tinsel]

Doesn't matter since single-core performance is now higher for AMD

[subtle hawk]

we've reached physical limits of CPUs

any further and that new technology that's still in its infancy will take over

that will be the dual core you're talking about

and it wasn't the core 2 that started the multicore race

[gloomy tinsel]

It wasn't, it was the Athlon

[subtle hawk]

until we solve the issues with that new tech

most you'll see is more cores as similar speeds around 5 GHz

[gloomy tinsel]

That's what I expected, anyway.

[subtle hawk]

I personally don't see the hype around it

[gloomy tinsel]

Modular CPUs are working around the lower yields for smaller lithography

[subtle hawk]

you can't go below 6nm

[gloomy tinsel]

5nm is being worked on, actually. There's risk production ongoing for it

[subtle hawk]

any less and you'll have quantum effects kicking ur butt

[gloomy tinsel]

TSMC announced it

[subtle hawk]

maybe for less demanding SoCs

[gloomy tinsel]

Quantum tunneling is already a problem lol, a lot of the design has to be worked around it

[subtle hawk]

quantum tunneling is nothing compared to what you get at 7nm

sorry I mean 6

[gloomy tinsel]

There are actually plans announced for 3nm by Samsung and TSMC, which some people think will be the final lithography node

[subtle hawk]

while tunneling is a persistent problem there also appears superposition and strangeness

[gloomy tinsel]

Beyond 3nm who knows

[subtle hawk]

which screw with results far worse than tunneling

that 3nm is an experiment

it uses a different die base

that's veeeeeeery expensive

[gloomy tinsel]

Yah, we have no idea if it's commercially viable. But nonetheless there are commercialization plans

[subtle hawk]

they'll never achieve commercial yields from it

[gloomy tinsel]

Samsung's target, which they announced earlier this year, is 2021

[subtle hawk]

you're talking atomic core sized transistors

[gloomy tinsel]

A silicon atom has an atomic radius of 112pm, so yes we're talking about a few atoms

[subtle hawk]

that's the thing

it's not silicone

[gloomy tinsel]

Germanium arsenide and all that

[subtle hawk]

silicone can't be used as a base for 3nm

[gloomy tinsel]

Germanium has an atomic radius of 122pm

[subtle hawk]

silicone litography will reach it's limit at 5nm for mobile

besides

the point isn't to go smaller

[gloomy tinsel]

Yes, the point is to become more efficient at the same node

[subtle hawk]

we're reached the point where going smaller isn't as efficient and reliable

while using up waaaaaay more resources

[gloomy tinsel]

From here on out, the way forward is designing CPUs more intelligently

[subtle hawk]

exactly

[signal trellis]

The point is more efficiency and more transistors to solve problems quicker

[subtle hawk]

right now Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Samsung and some other companies are working on a thing called 3D stacking

[gloomy tinsel]

Yah, chiplet design with modular parts

[signal trellis]

Thiccer cpus

[subtle hawk]

not the chiplet wannabe that AMD rushed out

[gloomy tinsel]

I know which one you're talking about

[subtle hawk]

ye

[gloomy tinsel]

I'm still calling it chiplet design because that's what it is

[subtle hawk]

kinda?

I mean it's one die just with more layers

[signal trellis]

I'm pretty sure Arm is going to reach smaller transistor size before anyone else

[gloomy tinsel]

At this point, I think the future of CPU improvements may lie with entirely new CPU ISAs as opposed to existing architecture

[subtle hawk]

designing a new CPU arch means throwing away everything

[signal trellis]

The future is Arm

[gloomy tinsel]

Yah, but x86 can only be optimized to a certain point

[signal trellis]

exactly

[subtle hawk]

even ARM is old

[gloomy tinsel]

I think RISC-V is the most promising but only if it can really get off the ground

Entirely new ISA built from the ground up

[signal trellis]

it is but it's more advanced than its predecessor

[gloomy tinsel]

Some companies have announced RISC-V adoption for embedded systems, including Nvidia and WD

[subtle hawk]

ARM was made for mobile and IoT

and it does it's job

but it will never compete with bigger bois lile x86

[signal trellis]

but imagine it in a desktop

[gloomy tinsel]

I'm just waiting for muh RISC-V desktop 🦊

I mean technically you can build one now, but it's expensive due to small production volume

[signal trellis]

I'm hearing there's a laptop coming out sometime this year that's based on arm

[gloomy tinsel]

and for not great performance yet

[subtle hawk]

I'm waiting for Intel and AMD to go back hand in hand to design something new

[gloomy tinsel]

There are already a bunch of laptops that use ARM, Baka

:3

[subtle hawk]

ye

[signal trellis]

yea because they haven't really done much lately

[subtle hawk]

and they're garbage

because as I said

[signal trellis]

are they chromebooks?

lul

[gloomy tinsel]

Nah there are Windows ARM lappies

[subtle hawk]

ARM isn't made for full blown laptops/desktops

[signal trellis]

ah

yea that's what I hear

[gloomy tinsel]

I'm also kind of interested to see where POWER goes from here

[subtle hawk]

because that's what it is

[gloomy tinsel]

Right now it's pretty much restricted to servers and supercomputers

POWER I mean

[subtle hawk]

ARM was built around the idea that the device has limited resources like power, space and size

[signal trellis]

yea cause they're more efficient

[subtle hawk]

it's not meant to be fast or good

but it's meant to make the most out of the little it has

[gloomy tinsel]

Did you hear about the MIPS ISA going royalty-free

I have no idea if that'll actually make a difference since people... don't really care about MIPS outside of embedded systems

but it's a cool bit of news

[signal trellis]

I've never heard of it

[subtle hawk]

that ancient dragon that lives inside Oracle mainframes?

[gloomy tinsel]

I think you're thinking about SPARC

SPARC's the ancient dragon

Well, MIPS is ancient too

but not Oracle

[subtle hawk]

who's owning MIPS nowadays

D-Wave?

[gloomy tinsel]

Wave Computing, apparently

Fun fact, SPARC is also presently open and royalty-free

[subtle hawk]

meanwhile in the quantum computing world, we have our first security protocol in working condition

[gloomy tinsel]

but I don't think opening up an old ISA is what we need for the future

What we want is really a new ISA

imo

[subtle hawk]

with a new ISA comes the problem, we need to rewrite everything for it

[gloomy tinsel]

Well, Linux supports RISC-V which only like just came out with CPUs, so part of the issue is solved for it at least 🦊

Also I have my doubts that quantum computing will become a mainstream computing option anytime soon if ever, due to the huge hurdles involved

[subtle hawk]

linux supports it

yes

[gloomy tinsel]

It means RISC-V can become a thing in servers and supercomputers

which is a start

[subtle hawk]

but not things like systemd, upstart, docker, etc

those need to write support into them

[gloomy tinsel]

Yah, but it's getting there

[subtle hawk]

when you change the foundation you have to change all the layers above too

and I do mean all

[gloomy tinsel]

There's enough of Linux and its userland, etc. ported that you can run a full Linux desktop on RISC-V, actually. Some folks have done videos on that

It's not practical yet since the hardware is still too expensive for general use

Needs greater volume production and higher-end CPUs

[subtle hawk]

and the implementations are probably potato

[gloomy tinsel]

Yah, I believe the highest-end RISC-V CPU as of now is a quad-core quad-threaded design running at some low clock rate

It's meant for dev work and sampling

https://www.sifive.com/boards/hifive-unleashed This board, the CPU is actually pentacore, not quad-core. Super weird

and definitely a potato

You're paying over $1000 for this board after including the additional equipment needed to make it viable for desktop use. Obviously this is not a general consumer board, but a developer kit intended to spearhead RISC-V

The first of its kind will always be ridiculously expensive and low-powered, due to lower volume and demand

[subtle hawk]

and because not many ppl can even begin to understand how to use that dev board to it's full potential

[tame topaz]

cough Fold cough

But yeah TIL quantum physics is important in CPU design

Guess it always has been lol

[gloomy tinsel]

It's been for a while, yeah

[tame topaz]

We've been essentially running in circles for the past decade

No real major spike/breakthroughs

It's just keep going until they hit an inevitable wall

I wanna go back in time to experience the very exciting (if frustrating) times of the 90s

[signal trellis]

yea it's like phone designs

[gloomy tinsel]

You want to go back to that era of hardware jumpers and ISA slots?

[tame topaz]

era of conputers being obsolete within a matter of a year

or even months

And speaking of which I managed to salvage this thing a few months ago

[gloomy tinsel]

Trident, now there's a name you don't hear anymore in the GPU market

[tame topaz]

Yep.

[gloomy tinsel]

because they died

[tame topaz]

oof

Card from '94, uses ISA

I saved it from the fate of collecting dust in a finished school project

[gloomy tinsel]

It's interesting how there were PCI graphics cards as a stopgap between ISA and AGP

That was the time where graphics cards really took off and started to outstrip the bandwidth available to them

We don't have that anymore though, PCIe is more than fast enough for now

The speed of the bus getting faster outpaced graphics card development

[tame topaz]

And now, really, we don't need any more new standards. Just improvements to preexisting ones.

[signal trellis]

Yea and we're slowly getting that

I mean USB and TB are about to combine with USB 4

[gloomy tinsel]

PCIe 4.0 has been around for a little while, just not in mainstream platforms yet. We're getting it soon though

[subtle hawk]

USB 4

aaaaaas if

USB Gen 3.3 4x4

[gloomy tinsel]

Ryzen 3000 series supports PCIe 4.0 and I expect that Intel will implement it soon, too

[signal trellis]

IKR

[gloomy tinsel]

Also USB has terrible naming, god dammit

[signal trellis]

Fucking 2x2

I understand the name, but it's still terrible

[subtle hawk]

the wireless association moved to a dope new naming scheme

[signal trellis]

yea

[gloomy tinsel]

WiFi 5, WiFi 6, etc.

[subtle hawk]

ye

[gloomy tinsel]

Easy to understand

[signal trellis]

no more 802.11 bullshit

[subtle hawk]

not that the old one was bad

[signal trellis]

eh it's not good for consumers

[subtle hawk]

was based on what IEEE paragraph it was set as

[tame topaz]

Fast Ethernet means 100Mbps lol

[gloomy tinsel]

The old one got pretty messy once they started having to use multiple letters

and there wasn't an obvious pattern to the letters anyway

[tame topaz]

I really do not get the thought process behind the USB naming scheme

[gloomy tinsel]

a, b, g, n, ac, ax......

[signal trellis]

trust me I don't either

[subtle hawk]

I pity the ppl that bought 802.11 AD routers

[signal trellis]

yea.....

I was late hearing about it

[subtle hawk]

lowkey that was a test drive of a 5G component

the 60GHz peer to peer interconnect

US bans Huawei
Huawei is one of the lead 5G manufacturers at low cost
US telecom can't afford to install brand new equipment

[signal trellis]

I mean 5G is cool and all but there's still ISPs and carriers using data caps

[subtle hawk]

[gloomy tinsel]

802.11n is still fast enough for a lot of people 🦊

[subtle hawk]

not when you have 20 or so devices

abd there's conflicting networks

[signal trellis]

and yea banning huawei is not only going to fuck huawei, but the market in general

[subtle hawk]

here we'll be fine

[gloomy tinsel]

A lot of people don't have 20 or so devices and there's 5 GHz 802.11n ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[subtle hawk]

802.11n should die

ac is ages better

[signal trellis]

I mean I have 802.11ac and it's fine because my ISP doesn't offer fast enough speeds

[subtle hawk]

you've got MU-MIMO, Beamforming, channel crossing

here the huawei ban doesn't matter shit

[tame topaz]

Don't quite get the hype of mesh wifi

[gloomy tinsel]

There's no dispute that 802.11ac is way better, but I'm still going to assert that 802.11n suffices for many 🦊

[tame topaz]

Considering how expensive it is

[subtle hawk]

most of our telecom infrastructure relies on Huawei hardware

no it doesn't

[tame topaz]

I'm using wireless N I think

Let's see here

[subtle hawk]

the only reason n is around is bcz it's the last protocol to work on 2.4GHz

[tame topaz]

4 phones, a laptop, a TV and a desktop

More than sufficient

[subtle hawk]

if they would make a ac retrofit for 2.4 then n would dissapear as fast as a and b did

[tame topaz]

Living on the slow lane

3.5Mbps download

[gloomy tinsel]

I still see a lot of routers support 802.11g as well, since it's inexpensive

but I haven't seen a new client device use g in forever

[signal trellis]

Mine is about 100 down but I still have a 1tb cap

[tame topaz]

What the hell's with this short whine sound of sorts

[subtle hawk]

show me a device that only supports a/b/g

a modern one

[gloomy tinsel]

Never seen one

[tame topaz]

It's getting hella frequent once I installed the SSD

[subtle hawk]

exactly

[tame topaz]

alright I'm gonna get a video of it

With audio

[signal trellis]

Whine?

[subtle hawk]

also ISPs are also partially at fault why most still use 2.4 GHz

[signal trellis]

I agree

[gloomy tinsel]

Lol ISP routers

[subtle hawk]

bcz of the potatoes they call routers

[signal trellis]

it's a shitty modem and router combined

my dad has one for his business

[subtle hawk]

those potatoes aren't even good enough for SOHO use

atleast here the telecom I used to work for provides good gear

[signal trellis]

the fucking thing doesn't support WEP

[gloomy tinsel]

Not supporting WEP these days is normal though

[subtle hawk]

yes it's huawei, yes it's a all in one solution

[signal trellis]

It only has WPS

[subtle hawk]

but it has enterprise grade hardware and software

[signal trellis]

Which I thought about experimenting with

[gloomy tinsel]

You shouldn't be using WEP due to it being wildly insecure

There are publicly available tools that let you crack it in a few minutes

[signal trellis]

sorry

[subtle hawk]

its probably because its huawei that it's enterprise grade hardware

[signal trellis]

I didn't mean wep

I meant WPA

[tame topaz]

Yeah guys what is this sound?

[subtle hawk]

too expensive from vendors that actually make their own ip rather than stealing it

[gloomy tinsel]

Oh, I see

Only WPS?? thonk

[signal trellis]

yea

[tame topaz]

It has been there ever since I built the damn thing

[signal trellis]

I'm wanting to try to crack it

because why the hell not

[tame topaz]

But it's getting more frequent when I'm using it once I installed an SSD

[subtle hawk]

tell me when was the last time you saw a ISP router support VLANs, RADIUS/802.1X authentication, full DHCP server and firewall control and a VPN server to boot

[signal trellis]

if they say it's that easy I want to see

[gloomy tinsel]

I'm not sure what that is @tame topaz

[tame topaz]

Yeah, the sound

It's weird

[subtle hawk]

@subtle hawk huawei does make a lot of their own stuff

[tame topaz]

I'm suspecting it's the hard drive or something, idk

[signal trellis]

Meanwhile my new router supports all of those plus more

[gloomy tinsel]

You can try to pinpoint the sound by opening up the PC and listening around

[subtle hawk]

only US ppl have this illusion that huawei is some cheap ripoff

(IK yamato I'm just poking fun)

[signal trellis]

It's not

I've owned a Huawei device

[subtle hawk]

they're one of the main vendors of 5G for a reason

when actually huawei is one of the companies spearing the 5G development

and 4G and LTE back in the day

I don't trust them, but hell I don't really trust cisco much either

[signal trellis]

It had its flaws (considering it was an old Nexus 6P) but overall it was pretty decent

[subtle hawk]

we're talking about telecom equipment more than phones, dani

[signal trellis]

yea but I think it still relates since people in the US don't really know huawei in general

[subtle hawk]

our national ISP already signed a contract with huawei for 5G deployment

[signal trellis]

They're a great company. People just think that everything out of china is always ass

I kinda want to look more into their networking devices

[tame topaz]

odd sound.

It's almost like a beep which I'm pretty sure isn't.

No PC speaker to speak of.

[gloomy tinsel]

It does sound like something mechanical to me

[subtle hawk]

coil whine?

[signal trellis]

It didn't sound like coil whine to me

[gloomy tinsel]

From the video, I don't think it's coil whine

[subtle hawk]

that clip didn't sound like coil whine

too short and sharp

[tame topaz]

sharp sound then a bit of a quiet wind-down

[subtle hawk]

maybe a short

[signal trellis]

yea coil whine is a consistent noise typically

[gloomy tinsel]

It could be the arm in the hard drive, in which case you should definitely get that checked out

[subtle hawk]

sounds like when you quickly cut power to a hard drive

[tame topaz]

Maybe not if it's there even during use at times

Again, it grew more frequent when I installed an SSD

Somehow

[subtle hawk]

could be that the PSU isn't providing enough juice to the system on the 5V rail

and adding the SSD is just making it worse

[tame topaz]

Ah, maybe.

[gloomy tinsel]

Yeah, but SSDs barely draw power, so for that to have made a difference means that something is already very marginal

[signal trellis]

have you tried doing a file transfer where the drive would be doing more work?

[tame topaz]

I might as well really be pushing this PSU.

[gloomy tinsel]

which if that's the case, is very baaaaaaaad

What's the wattage on the PSU and what hardware is in the PC

[tame topaz]

400W

And it's driving like, lemme see

[subtle hawk]

400

o boi

[gloomy tinsel]

Hold on, we don't know what the hardware is yet

[signal trellis]

yea elaborate

[subtle hawk]

don't forget RGB fans

[gloomy tinsel]

400W is totally fine for smaller PCs after all

[signal trellis]

yea but if it's supposed to be like a gaming PC then that's way too low

[gloomy tinsel]

It also depends on the quality of the PSU

a good 400W PSU can drive a lower end gaming PC

no problem

[signal trellis]

and judging by the way your PC looks, I assume it is a gaming PC

[tame topaz]

A stock 2200G, an RGB cooler, stock 3 gig 1060, LED strip (which is synced to the RGB fan with a small controller that plugs to SATA power and a splitter), 3 RGB fans powered by a hub plugged to Molex

[gloomy tinsel]

Oh gosh

[signal trellis]

yea

[subtle hawk]

yeah you might have clapped the PSU

[signal trellis]

you might have fucked the PSU

[tame topaz]

and oh yeah an EK Vardar

[signal trellis]

that's a lot on a 400w psu

[tame topaz]

lol

[signal trellis]

for any gaming PC even if it's on the low end I always recommend 600w

[gloomy tinsel]

I never advise cheaping out on the PSU, it's literally the part that keeps the rest of your PC running

[signal trellis]

or 500w

[subtle hawk]

should see my RM750i crying when I load up the GPUs and the CPU

[tame topaz]

Well thank heavens they sell EVGA power supplies here

[subtle hawk]

ez 700W load

[signal trellis]

I went overkill on my psu

[tame topaz]

That said the only good one in stock is the 450 BV

[gloomy tinsel]

Not all EVGA PSUs are made equal though 🦊

[signal trellis]

I have the RM1000

[subtle hawk]

get a seasonic

[gloomy tinsel]

Some EVGAs are made by SeaSonic

[signal trellis]

corsair has been good to me

[tame topaz]

oh god no they're expensive

[subtle hawk]

some

well they're quality

what did u expect

[tame topaz]

Don't get me wrong the S12II is my absolute dream PSU

But expensive

[gloomy tinsel]

You don't want a cheap PSU though, a bad one can mean RIP the whole PC

Also there's an S12III now I think

[subtle hawk]

had water drip onto a server

didn't break a sweat

[signal trellis]

yea I didn't cheap out on mine and it's been the heart of my PC for 7-8 years

[tame topaz]

Cooler Master MWE 400

80 Plus.

Not Bronze.

Just 80 Plus.

[subtle hawk]

500W or more

[gloomy tinsel]

cheap Cooler Master PSU

[subtle hawk]

yes 80+ is a grading

it's below bronze

[signal trellis]

80+ is for efficiency isn't it?

[gloomy tinsel]

80+ is just efficiency, not so much to do with the quality of the parts

[signal trellis]

yea

[gloomy tinsel]

There are great bronze PSUs and mediocre gold PSUs

[subtle hawk]

there's 80+
80+ Bronze
Gold
Platinum
Titanium

[signal trellis]

80+ just means that it's not going to draw too much power

[tame topaz]

Yeah I know about 80 Plus ratings

[gloomy tinsel]

but 80+ white is pretty much never a high quality PSU as far as I've seen

so at least for that one there's a correlation

[signal trellis]

yea it just means it barely passed

it's the lowest I believe

[subtle hawk]

it is

[signal trellis]

80+ is like an IP rating right? It just means the PSU went through testing to get the rating?

[gloomy tinsel]

Also, don't forget 80+ Silver. Nobody makes those anymore but it is a thing

[signal trellis]

I haven't heard of one

[gloomy tinsel]

You can find that rating on some older OEM PSUs for example

[signal trellis]

It's either bronze or gold

for me

[gloomy tinsel]

I once saw a Silver in an old Dell

[tame topaz]

Alright, hit me with some recs and I'll check pricing over here

[subtle hawk]

oooo shiny

[gloomy tinsel]

Corsair CX (2017 model)

[tame topaz]

Or if it even sells here

[gloomy tinsel]

There is an older CX that's not great

[signal trellis]

Honestly I recommend corsair but there's others that are better priced for a good PSU

[subtle hawk]

I like the RMi series

[gloomy tinsel]

I wouldn't recommend an RMi for his (budget) build though lol

[subtle hawk]

the corsair sensor set is 👌

[tame topaz]

Long since not sold here

so nope

[signal trellis]

I have the RM1000 and like I said has been the heart of my PC for the past 7-8 years

[gloomy tinsel]

EVGA B2/B3

[subtle hawk]

but does it have monitoring if the voltage on the rails, fan speed, efficiency, input voltage, power draw

[tame topaz]

450W BV is the only model that is still sold

Nope

[signal trellis]

and I don't think the fan has ever spinned on my RM1000 lol

[gloomy tinsel]

We're talking about a system with a 2200G and a GTX 1060 3GB, I think all we need here is a sufficient PSU, not a great one

[subtle hawk]

my system will definitely make it spin

[signal trellis]

oh I'm not saying get a 1000w PSU

[gloomy tinsel]

🦊

[signal trellis]

I'm just talking from experience

like I said earlier I went overkill

[subtle hawk]

I'm also running a custom nvidia driver where each app is driven by its set GPU

[gloomy tinsel]

Honestly a 450W PSU should be fine for a 2200G + 1060 3GB, but might as well err on the safer side

[signal trellis]

but in the end it was worth because if I decide I want a second 1080 I could upgrade no worries

[gloomy tinsel]

for future upgrades

[subtle hawk]

basically ripped out nvidia optimus from a laptop and strapped it to the RTX/GTX driver

[tame topaz]

Ahhhh, it's a real risk I'm running here

Shit, maybe I shouldn't have bought that SSD if I knew my PSU is practically choking

[signal trellis]

honestly it was a good upgrade imo

[gloomy tinsel]

Honestly, I'm doubting that your PSU can even sustain the 400W it's advertised for

[tame topaz]

oof

[gloomy tinsel]

Cheaper PSUs have that issue

[signal trellis]

yea

it says 400 but it's almost 400

[tame topaz]

More regrets about buying the thing at the height of the component price hike intensifies

[signal trellis]

aren't PSUs cheap these days?

I haven't looked for one in a while

[tame topaz]

65 bucks for the S12II

[gloomy tinsel]

The prices were a bit higher than I'm used to the last time I checked

[tame topaz]

in my country

[signal trellis]

yea....

a little high

[tame topaz]

But yeah

What I don't get is why it makes the sound as it shuts down as well

[subtle hawk]

I won't be surprised if the pc starts to randomly shut down

[gloomy tinsel]

If you're really strapped for options in your area, the Antec VP450 is old and not great, but also not completely dreadful

[signal trellis]

because when your computer shuts down it goes through a few processes

[gloomy tinsel]

At least if it dies, it shouldn't kill the PC with it

lol

[signal trellis]

you might lose all of your data though

[subtle hawk]

inb4 caps go haduuken and spike the 12V rail

[signal trellis]

but that is on your whether you think that's important

lmao

[subtle hawk]

you haven't seen a 1500W PSU blow

[signal trellis]

I don't think I want to

[subtle hawk]

now THAT is a big boom

[gloomy tinsel]

Good thing I don't need a 1500W PSU

[signal trellis]

I watched too much photonicinduction

[subtle hawk]

but it had a redundant one

[tame topaz]

If I'm lucky I might just be able to convince my parents to buy this

And not have to use my own money

[gloomy tinsel]

Do they sell the EVGA BQ series over there

[tame topaz]

Barely anything EVGA really

[gloomy tinsel]

Those are decent

[tame topaz]

Almost none

[signal trellis]

I mean at least if you get a good PSU it would last you a long while

[gloomy tinsel]

EVGA W1 500W is also passable, but old and more of a last resort before falling into actually bad PSUs

[signal trellis]

yea I wouldn't buy an old one unless you're really wanting to bite a bullet

that's in the low end

[subtle hawk]

oh ye I dug up this ancient thing from my closet

[signal trellis]

is that a vita

[subtle hawk]

nah

that's a PSP

[signal trellis]

OH SHIT

[gloomy tinsel]

What do they have @tame topaz

[signal trellis]

PSP

[subtle hawk]

ye

[signal trellis]

I have one too lol

3000

[subtle hawk]

that one is 3002

[signal trellis]

it's all dusty

[subtle hawk]

I also have a 2002 model

[signal trellis]

damn

[subtle hawk]

my friend had the brick 1000 model

[tame topaz]

Antec, Andyson, Seasonic, Super Flower (oh hell no), FSP

[signal trellis]

I almost sold mine but I kinda want to keep it

[gloomy tinsel]

Super Flower makes some great PSUs, IDK what you're talking about

[tame topaz]

Those are the more reputable ones I can rattle off

Again, price

I know they're very good

[signal trellis]

Seasonic then

[gloomy tinsel]

FSP group makes some that are fine. What Antec ones do they have

[subtle hawk]

I still keep these 2 PSPs and the 4 DS Lites I got from some dude that didn't know what they were

[signal trellis]

lmao I went through like 5 DSs

I wish I still had my DSi

[tame topaz]

actually nvm they're all out of stock

[subtle hawk]

one of them is mine but the other 3 DS Lites are brand new in their box still

[gloomy tinsel]

Do they carry XFX? Some of the XFX PSUs are made by SeaSonic, and of quite good quality

[signal trellis]

I have the original DS too

[tame topaz]

Nope

[signal trellis]

it needs a screen replacement but it's otherwise fine

[subtle hawk]

like if I leave them some more I could get some dank dollar from them

since the packaging is intact

[signal trellis]

damn yea that's good that you have the packaging

[subtle hawk]

sealed

[signal trellis]

DAMN

yhea

keep that

[subtle hawk]

ye all 4 were sealed

I opened one that's my personal one

[signal trellis]

you could get thousands off of those in the future

[gloomy tinsel]

I skipped the DSi generation and went straight to 3DS

[subtle hawk]

using a R4 card to play games on it

[gloomy tinsel]

DSi felt kind of inconsequential to me, ngl

[signal trellis]

I got the DSi when it came out

[subtle hawk]

need to replay the Pokemon games

[signal trellis]

I loved it but wish it kept the GBA port

[tame topaz]

So I'm interested in either the FSP Hydro or the Seasonic S12II

[subtle hawk]

since sword and shield is around the corner

[signal trellis]

yea I'm siked for that

I want a real pokemon game on the switch

[gloomy tinsel]

Honestly if you can suck up the money for it, the S12II will do you well and is probably much better than most of what they have there

[tame topaz]

There's the M12II Evo as well

But pricey

[gloomy tinsel]

Also, that's rude to Let's Go, Dani. Let's Go are real Pokemon games. Just not very good ones. :3

[signal trellis]

I don't consider let's go a real pokemon game

[subtle hawk]

weeb switch

[signal trellis]

it looked like pokemon go to me

[gloomy tinsel]

It's actually in the main series as the last member of Gen VII

[signal trellis]

I almost bought it though

also big yes on the switch skin

[gloomy tinsel]

I got it as a gift, I wasn't going to buy it myself

It's... alright

but totally unremarkable

[signal trellis]

yea I wasn't going to buy it myself

I kinda want to play older pokemon games. Sun and moon was actually my first one

[gloomy tinsel]

Let's Go feels like a tech demo for future Pokemon Games on Switch

[signal trellis]

I agree

[gloomy tinsel]

I highly recommend Black and White

[signal trellis]

I want to play all of them tbh

I played a bit of red but that's it

[gloomy tinsel]

If you played Red, then you've basically played a harder, buggier, and more asshole version of Let's Go

[signal trellis]

and my sis lended me x and y but never got to play it

[gloomy tinsel]

I wasn't a huge fan of X and Y

personally

[signal trellis]

Still want to play it anyway

I'm about to binge all of the call of duties and everyone tells me don't play this it's bad and I told them I don't care. I want to see for myself why it's bad

My childhood ran on cod

starting with WaW

That and mario games

[gloomy tinsel]

Also, Red version has the Missingno. glitch, even the version in 3DS Virtual Console. You should do that sometime for lols

[signal trellis]

hmm

I think I had red on my 3ds until I got a 2ds and lost all my shit

[gloomy tinsel]

RIP

[signal trellis]

not i think

i did

I tried going to the eshop and it said fuck you $15

honestly might play it on emulator with a switch controller

but yea I had to make a new nintendo account for some reason on my 2ds and I couldn't go back

[tame topaz]

Honestly, yeah I just need something that is usable without choking and saves electricity

Because hoo wee, this thing coupled with an AC is gonna be lotsa powaa

[signal trellis]

yea my room is the pinnacle of wasting energy lmao

[tame topaz]

https://hanoicomputercdn.com/media/product/38568_forza_sama_750.jpg

[signal trellis]

AC on? me. Lots of power draw? Me. Lots of bandwidth? Me.

[tame topaz]

I cannot wrap my head around how this thing is so cheap

And carried by a very reputable store no less

I have doubts

But can't help but to be intruiged

[signal trellis]

because it's chinese?

[tame topaz]

Chinese, yes, but apparently they have some very good Titanium PSUs

[signal trellis]

tfw you haven't touched something in a while and it needs to go through a series of software updates

[tame topaz]

Okay you guys are not gonna believe me (and I have a gut feeling this is not gonna be good when I buy it)

But!

750 watts.

Fully modular.

80 Plus Gold.

70 bucks.

What the actual fuck.

[signal trellis]

I mean

yea I don't know what to say about that

[tame topaz]

Serious doubts.

If this is legit then it'd be an absolute steal of a PSU.

[signal trellis]

yea

[tame topaz]

Chemi-con caps.

Might just get it if I'm desperate.

So yeah looking at reviews of a reskinned model of that and the general consensus is that its's pretty damn good

[signal trellis]

Some reviews are fake though. Be careful

[tame topaz]

https://www.mygarage.ro/teste-si-review-uri/383426-review-sursa-inter-tech-sama-armor-550w-80plus-gold.html

Also available in English for convenience

[signal trellis]

yea kinda need that lul

conveniently at the bottom of the page

[tame topaz]

No it's across the review actually

[signal trellis]

Yea just noticed

[tame topaz]

http://www.jonnyguru.com/blog/2017/02/20/vivo-24k-650w-power-supply/

[signal trellis]

Is there a warranty?

[tame topaz]

Okay, now here is someone who is truly trustworthy.

Johnnyguru.

3 year warranty, yes.

[signal trellis]

at least you got 3 years to find out if it's shit

lul

[tame topaz]

oof yeah

I'm desperate tbh

[gloomy tinsel]

Well, if JonnyGURU says it's fine, it probably is

[signal trellis]

I mean I'm not the best person to talk to about power supplies but I would personally say yes

[tame topaz]

Alrighty

[signal trellis]

I've only had one but I would stick to corsair since I personally trust the brand

and I might be a bit of a corsair fanboy

[gloomy tinsel]

I use a SilverStone in my main system

[tame topaz]

It's a problem that they don't carry Corsair PSUs anymore

[gloomy tinsel]

SilverStone is very good, especially in the SFF space

[signal trellis]

yea mine is pretty big

[tame topaz]

tfw no Silverstone here

[signal trellis]

but I also have a big case

[tame topaz]

Yeah I'm gonna rattle off a few points that will hopefully convince my parents to buy

1: protects components and keep them from blowing up
2: saves electricity in the long run

[signal trellis]

but yea... corsair psu, ram, cpu cooler, fans, keyboard, mouse, mousepad, headset

[tame topaz]

E C O S Y S T E M

[signal trellis]

I might be a corsair fanboy

[gloomy tinsel]

The keyboards aren't even particularly great from what I understand

[signal trellis]

I love my K70RF

I have the K70RF Low Profile but I didn't like it

but iCue is a godsend

fucking love it. Better than any software I've used

and I've used logitechs, razor's, roccat (absolute shit), and ducky (even more shit)

[gloomy tinsel]

Having listened to people who have really dived deep into keyboards, surprisingly the obscure brands are supposed to be the best

[signal trellis]

ducky was good on the hardware side, but terrible software

I use macros quite a bit

and iCue let's me make them for separate profiles linked to the software I'm wanting to use it on. Discord for example. I have a macro to quickly delete messages and my keyboard becomes blue so I know it's on the discord profile. It switches the profiles the moment I click on whatever it's linked to instantly

[tame topaz]

Okay okay

After some testing

As it turns out

It is the hard drive.

And it appears to be just normal.

It's odd because my old HDD in my old prebuilt never had that kind of noise.

[subtle hawk]

Hello guys, can I ask how many CPU cores should I allocate to the emulator to run AL smoothly?

Should I allocate all my 6 cores or just 4 or even 2 of them?

4 is plenty

so, just 4 is enough?

yeah

give a decent amount of RAM

[willow sedge]

hmm is there a dark mode for window explorer?

like when i look at window files
i want it as dark mode

like to remove all these white space here

[subtle hawk]

There was one in some insider builds

Not sure if it made it to the stable build yet

@willow sedge ofc there is

http://nyamato.ban-hammered.me/i/qlyj2.png

[willow sedge]

save me
my eyes are burning

[subtle hawk]

http://nyamato.ban-hammered.me/i/xepcw.png

[willow sedge]

hmm

only my setting window changed to dark mode not the file explorer

[subtle hawk]

what windows version are you on

[willow sedge]

[subtle hawk]

@unborn flicker there was

@willow sedge update to 1903

[willow sedge]

ah ok thanks

[subtle hawk]

it's a very bad idea to keep back updates

especially for such a long period of time

in the age where @light compasss take less than 10 seconds

smh my head

[subtle hawk]

did you disable fast boot

why

just

why

like what purpose does it serve you to disable fast boot

ultra doubt

on my old laptop there was a significant diference

going between 10-15s boots

to 1-2m

because you have to load literally everything from all the different parts of memory all over again

[subtle hawk]

disabling the session restore was always my big problem with windows

once I got that disabled things got a lot faster

(and I think they added a more user-friendly setting for it in a recent build)

[severe falcon]

so who else has the twitch desktop app here, and is it fucking broken for you aswell?

[stone wave]

ah yeah, that new dark mode is so nice indeed

[subtle hawk]

tfw didn't activate it so I can't change that

might try it once I get my laptop back though

[valid acorn]

I thought dark theme is there this whole time

even before the update

[tame topaz]

What's with the sudden popularity of portable monitors?

[stone wave]

is it? i never paid attention, yamato's screenshot was what reminded me to bother enabling that shit, I just thought it was rolled into the May 2019 update but apparently not lmao

and if you want to force the update you can force it via the Microsoft Media Creation tool IIRC

[valid acorn]

People told me that it was buggy, I found it to be stable

[subtle hawk]

people tell others to disable telemetry and updates because muh privacy

but I'm already tired to explain to them that it's a stupid idea

that's why you save

and put inactive hours on ur pc

mine can turn on in the middle of the night and update

[valid acorn]

Duplicates

[subtle hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42o548Q1rwY

I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK

[subtle hawk]

Water cooling lul

[stable sonnet]

If only my case could actually fit a full on water cooling radiator

[subtle hawk]

I can fit 2

I think these corsair parts might push me to go full water cooling