pvp

[keen silo]

teatime terrors is just a HMS faction fleet (largely) but lacks the synergy and power level of the USS version

[rocky shadow]

If only vg have skill buff skill like NJ

[keen silo]

sadly

[candid sluice]

wait for them to release nj2 with yamato

[keen silo]

yamato shinano fleet soon

[rocky shadow]

It will be more cancer

Yamato Shinano NJ

[keen silo]

final day of the season, pace check anyone?

[candid sluice]

;pace 69 420

[keen silo]

damn thats a good pace

[river marsh]

missed a few battles again cuz i was busy with stuff

maybe next season

[oblique cobalt]

Missed >half the battles cuz yes
Somewhere in the 4Ks rank

[calm mica]

Amagi 3rd place as per usual

[unreal beacon]

Perseus vs aquila vs Unicron kai

[royal beacon]

Chise

[keen silo]

aquila

[royal beacon]

Chise.

[cinder wolf]

chise bad

[keen silo]

chise bad

[untold crater]

chise worst preload

[cinder wolf]

her shield also spawns late, no saving grace

[neon bronze]

summoning WhenYouSeeIt (Amagi). Pretty simple. Not tryharding rn

hmm... what can i do better rn?

[untold crater]

i see it

[candid sluice]

You are screwed

[flat veldt]

https://c.tenor.com/7rZy3YVnYgcAAAAM/iseeit-whenyouseeit.gif

[river marsh]

last reset

[mellow charm]

Time to overcap in the next season

[daring burrow]

still leveling some of the ships up, but wondering who should be my third vanguard until I finish ancho

Thinking of suzutsuki or heinrich (once lv 120)

for dev levels,

[candid sluice]

you can use helena for now

[keen silo]

helena would be pretty solid yeah. or suzu if you want the smokescreen

[daring burrow]

what would be the vanguard order ? I'd think noshiro/helena/juneau since we want juneau to die

[candid sluice]

yea that works

jun is hella low lvl tho might pop too soon either way

[daring burrow]

yea I'll get them to 120 before I swap this team in

lastly, should I swap a backline for one of these? there is also 125 indep.

[candid sluice]

nano is kinda odd there u could try swapping her for warkai

or hiryu since shes under too

[daring burrow]

I thought Shinaryuu was a thing? shinano and hiryuu going together

[daring burrow]

assume everyone is level 120 since it's wip

[candid sluice]

its a thing but with nj over vanguard

[uncut agate]

NJ is needed for that fleet

[daring burrow]

oo I see

so warspite vanny hriyuu?

[uncut agate]

you can try warkai, vanny, uni
any other preload CV over Uni if you happen to have them

[cinder wolf]

since you're willing to progress might as well start working on anchorage

[candid sluice]

he already is

[daring burrow]

problem is dev level

but yeah that's the next step

[candid sluice]

she does her job at dev10

just pump up her levels

[cinder wolf]

yea i mean just use underdev ancho instead

she'll get there eventually

[daring burrow]

oh nice, alright I'll do that.

[cinder wolf]

save u headache of raising temporary vang whom probably performs equal/less than underdev ancho

[candid sluice]

lena is alr 125 which is why i recommended it for now

[daring burrow]

yeah that makes sense. didn't know she's good from dev 10. as other suggested helena was already done

[cinder wolf]

id still use dev10 ancho tbh, shes getting manjuu anyway to hold herself

maybe yuki instead of noshi too cus shes not buffing anybody

[keen silo]

dev 10 is still solid cuz manjuu exists

dev 15 up is also more than good enough to use

[daring burrow]

what is manjuu?

cause I probably don't have that

[cinder wolf]

memento items

can get them easily

[untold crater]

eagle union elite damage control

reward for MLB yorktown/hornet/enterprise

[cinder wolf]

elite*

[candid sluice]

assuming ancho is leveled enough

[cinder wolf]

damn manjuu enty actually canon

i forgot which memento was it

[daring burrow]

thank god I did not scrap that

[keen silo]

[daring burrow]

I never used that in pve

[cinder wolf]

yea its mostly pvp item

[untold crater]

its good on VGs in pve too

[cinder wolf]

only use in niche way for pve

[daring burrow]

ok ok

[keen silo]

its good for meta fight in pve

that’s about it

[daring burrow]

my ancho is now dev 15

[keen silo]

i used her right after d15 too

[daring burrow]

just gotta lv 100 -> 120 her real quick

blue skin is most important to level up first right?

or does she need both at 10 for pvp

[keen silo]

blue skills first for sure

[whole salmon]

Lexington’s eos

[keen silo]

cucked in 2022

[uncut agate]

7 people with 2590 and higher, but still no 2600 in sight

[candid sluice]

congrats to this seasons winners

[mossy plinth]

how tf does one pvp. how do ppl have 142 after first 5

[untold crater]

bonus points

@steel coral let em know he's talking about you

[keen silo]

im hacker

#hackerman????

[untold crater]

still 2nd place

cursed

[mossy plinth]

do you just keep resetting until you find one low enough

[untold crater]

just log on after reset

you're guaranteed movers

[keen silo]

i will be lower than plasma forever

just a fact of life

[keen silo]

wdym low enough

[untold crater]

low number

high rank

like rank 10

[keen silo]

O

[oblique silo]

You just wait for people to move

Logging in first 5 minutes will guarantee movers

Then you just chain movers

[mossy plinth]

o

gonna just try and snipe aotn again this season then

[cinder wolf]

git gud

[keen silo]

hello hacker

[flat veldt]

Rumi must be in a boosted guild with those numbers

[untold crater]

c*llusion?

[cinder wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/rainn-wilson-shh-secret-prank-gif-17131726

[oblique silo]

Famine?

[steel coral]

my first mover only did 4

[cinder wolf]

i use vpn to when they moved 5

[gusty spire]

Do i heard Famine?

i didnt see any old name here anymore

[candid sluice]

Famine never left

[fading wing]

Did I mess up or is this okay for first 5 fights

I hate first 5

[untold crater]

That's good ye

Early season means nothing in the long run

Can lose all first 5 and finish top 10 easily

[fading wing]

ye true but i never get to snipe early season rushers bc of timezones

[untold crater]

What server is this? I don't recognize any names

Sandy?

[fading wing]

washy

[untold crater]

where are the baggers

[fading wing]

Usually Jesp has this score by now so its kinda weird

[keen silo]

what is your timezone

[fading wing]

GMT. But at reset im usually too busy getting ready/going to work but im off this week

[keen silo]

time to wake up 30min earlier

[trail temple]

Disappeared

[untold crater]

it is washy after all

[keen silo]

idk if washy baggers do 0/10 strat

[steel coral]

All of them stay at 2/10 to maximize point gain

That's why their server score is so high

[stable dawn]

gone, reduced to atoms.

[candid sluice]

who tf is this bongo boy

is that the astolfo chan

[keen silo]

indeed!

[stable dawn]

[calm mica]

Yeah, it's part of the basic strategy for reset 2. You hold 1/10 on first set so you don't need to refresh the real movers on reset 2 but instead do your 6/10 at 2 minutes in

It only saves you a refresh so it's nbd if you skip out on it

[sour oasis]

Oh dammit is it the new session already?

When did I get so bad at this game.

[candid sluice]

[light crystal]

[neon bronze]

i should learn pvp theory

[daring burrow]

in pvp, is it NJ > FDG >>> Warspite?

mostly trying out a 2 BB backline with vanguard

I don't have nj tho

[dapper stone]

I think WS > FDG in pvp

[uncut agate]

in pvp, it's NJ > other BBs. ranking of other BBs will depend on your team.

[daring burrow]

someone to replace hiryuu or nano since I was told they're out of place

it's either dev 30 fdg or grandma warkek

[keen silo]

warkai maybe

[daring burrow]

yeah warkai vanny uni (my only preload) seem to be the way to go

~~kinda surprised fdg isn't better tho ~~

[dapper stone]

no chise or perseus?

[zenith lantern]

That fleet looks fine to me. Normally you'd use Shimakaze over Noshiro and NJ over Vanguard but it's basically the weeb fleet which is one of the best PvP fleets right now.

[steel coral]

hot take chise worst preload

dont tell aoste

[keen silo]

not a hot take

[daring burrow]

no missed both sadly

[daring burrow]

Alright I'll try as is vs with warkai

[neon bronze]

Chise - Akaga better than Nakaga for PvP? Been thinking since this hot take

[rustic bridge]

Ok for pvp or 380mm Return

I can never win on pvp

[mortal plume]

yeah yeah ok salty

[pseudo copper]

One day you'll win

[candid sluice]

salty brothers rise up

[light crystal]

✊

[void geyser]

JB gearing ask for using a whacky gun and manual aim
Both you can't use or shouldnt

But she will do 20k+ crit on your light siren bosses

[rustic bridge]

where yamashiro meta better

Better as jb

[mortal plume]

sure salty, sure

[keen silo]

sure @candid sluice , sure

[candid sluice]

ok idiot

[merry oar]

Is going to high ranks raise your chance of sandbagging ppl??
( Just early in this season )

[untold crater]

some people do that, but to 4/10 / 3/10, going too high will mean your bonuses are less

[merry oar]

Sandbagging on lower ranks has the most impact on late game right?

[untold crater]

What

The early leads don't matter as much

Or like at all

Can always make up points if you just don't overcap

[pseudo copper]

You either sandbag or you don't, you should go for as much as you can if you want to eos

If you slack can prob get AotN

[stable vigil]

Is Aquila with preload good for PvP?

[candid sluice]

very

[brazen socket]

Reading over the doc, is it finalized that duca > juneau?

[stable vigil]

Is it better than Shinano?

[brazen socket]

In the vanguard comp I mean

[untold crater]

yes

[untold crater]

depends on comp, but generally yes

shinano works in specific comp

aquila is a lot more versatile

[stable vigil]

If I had VV so it's better to have Aquila right?

[untold crater]

ues

yes

[candid sluice]

yes

[stable vigil]

Thanks for the help

I'll test it if it works well

[rustic bridge]

hope of wins

realy more as 1 win is impossible

[trail temple]

Check pins
Use ships and fleets specified in spreadsheet pin
Follow gear recs
Profit

[rustic bridge]

Have 80% from this gears not

Or this ships

[trail temple]

[rustic bridge]

Single Ur what i have is a drake gun

[river marsh]

power was out since morning

i had to go to a store to buy data so i won't overcap

been like 7 hrs without power

[fossil vine]

yikes

I have 17GB data each month and use like maybe 1

[neon bronze]

Doing a funny right now

@candid sluice worse or better than NJ + Akaga?

probs worse single target wise

[candid sluice]

worse

[oblique silo]

No NJ=worse

[neon bronze]

well i'm allowed to run on copium right

[keen silo]

yes of course

[river marsh]

daily reset and power is still out

[untold crater]

[keen silo]

sea life

[candid sluice]

have a pvp battle with your electrician

[slender cave]

Is this chat for the Azur Lane pro players top 100 NA!!! ?

[oblique silo]

You could say that

[uncut agate]

what's NA? Not Available?

[pseudo copper]

Only plebs talk here

We are all bottom of the barrel

[keen silo]

na = nuts avenue @uncut agate

[uncut agate]

sounds nuts

[pseudo copper]

I wanna visit

Can you take me there @keen silo?

[keen silo]

ill consider the offer

[slender cave]

Wow amazing dude pvp Azur Lane players I wanna learn from them

Be like them

Top 100 NA boys!

[pseudo copper]

I'll say your services are the best

[candid sluice]

🤨

[quick vessel]

dis good pvp setup?, currently investing on their gear

[weary estuary]

no

awful

[candid sluice]

not good

what other ships do u have

[weary estuary]

ships?

wtf are those ships?

[quick vessel]

That's what i have rn

[candid sluice]

yea u dont have much to work with here

i think what youre using now works for lower ranks but its not a good long term fleet

u could eventually aim to raise nagato akagi kaga as your backline

[keen silo]

just use pvp for exp at the moment

[quick vessel]

Kk

Capped on captain cuz cant reach top 1k pepelaf

[keen silo]

normal

u have nothing leveled anyways

[candid sluice]

its fine youre still a new player and dont have much to work with

[keen silo]

just level shit for pve first

[candid sluice]

just use the ships u have raised already and farm merits

[keen silo]

pvp can be 2ndary focus

[candid sluice]

buy bulins to limit break your botes

[keen silo]

cus without decent pve and opsi clearing ability u will never be able to pvp at high level

[candid sluice]

also buy helena from guild shop

[quick vessel]

Aite

[keen silo]

dont sweat pvp for now

[wide oyster]

Yea don't sweat the pvp ranking for now just do them for the points

[rustic bridge]

Set up ok

[untold crater]

dont use converging torp in pvp

(saiun)

[rustic bridge]

610mm torps

[untold crater]

talking about your torpedo bomber

on taihou

[candid sluice]

the messer is a slight concern as well

[untold crater]

dont use toolbox on azuma, use a rudder

[rustic bridge]

This better

[untold crater]

sure

would be better a wyvern or a gold barracuda though

[rustic bridge]

Have no wyvern

[mortal plume]

why is barracuda better than skypirate?

[slender cave]

It’s not lol

[rustic bridge]

[untold crater]

crash damage

206 vs 480

[rustic bridge]

How should i win for this

[mortal plume]

what's wyvern crash damage again

[untold crater]

450

but other stuff make up for it

[mortal plume]

hm

what's the new french plane's crash

[untold crater]

450 also

but it loses out in every other aspect besides timing

[mortal plume]

how?

[candid sluice]

damage suck

[untold crater]

see for yourself, literally all lower

[slender cave]

It doesn’t work like that it depends

[untold crater]

lower dmg, trp, HP

[mortal plume]

no i mean berug vs barracuda

[untold crater]

ahh

that is closer

[rustic bridge]

I need bara

Why have i all scrapt

[untold crater]

can say french TB is better

or they're very close

[keen silo]

french better it has intercept

[untold crater]

yep

only loses out in crahs dmg

[keen silo]

we are not quyet

[rustic bridge]

French tb where i never become

[keen silo]

conclusion: barracuda is better /s

[untold crater]

818*

[keen silo]

818 aurora best

[untold crater]

actually tho, without ancho it just deletes my VG bro 😭

[keen silo]

u need a suzutsuki

its pain without smokescreen at the start yea

[untold crater]

missed shinano event

[keen silo]

since u using juneau/duca/lena team

[untold crater]

nha

[keen silo]

aurora fucks over them

[untold crater]

swapped juneau/duca/seattle

[keen silo]

yea still gets fucked

[untold crater]

and soontm ancho/duca/seattle

[keen silo]

soontm

copium

[untold crater]

just 3 more dev lvls 😭

[river marsh]

meme in #pvp ?

[trail temple]

If Quyet gets involved with anything pvp related, it always somehow ends up as a meme

[candid sluice]

Does that mean no quyet allowed in this channel?

[river marsh]

quyet is a meme

therefore he is not allowed here

[trail temple]

If we're talking about not meming, should we stop suggesting to people they should use cuda over sky pirate then?

[untold crater]

agree sky pirate > cuda

blue and purple cuda, that is.

[cinder wolf]

gph moment

[candid sluice]

Might as well ban all gph members if we wanna ban memes

[river marsh]

[untold crater]

Need "help banned" role to type in #pvp

[keen silo]

inb4 crash dmg

[oblique silo]

Rip Brah

[candid sluice]

we banning ppl for having opinions now

[oblique silo]

Seems like it

[cinder wolf]

[pseudo copper]

Time to make a memorial for Brah as pvp pleb

[untold crater]

i guess sky pirate really is better than cuda

[cinder wolf]

more garbage def fleet around i take that as a win

[trail temple]

I'll need to make adjustments to my budget fleets that use cuda

[untold crater]

not like you're gonna lose to cuda fleets anw

[trail temple]

Replace them all with Skypirates, and change all the AA guns that aren't roomba/sex bofors into dido aa gun

[untold crater]

just they lose more often on offense

[pseudo copper]

Cuda has a yellow paint, making it better than other planes

[candid sluice]

is skypirate new meta

[untold crater]

@candid sluice confirmed.

[candid sluice]

damn gonna scrap my +13 tenrais and upgrade skypirates instead

[trail temple]

Quyet's words are ringing true, we gotta stop the interception from Hiryuu

[untold crater]

sky pirate is tb bro...

[candid sluice]

still uses plane plates

[untold crater]

thats tech actually

[trail temple]

And it doesn't intercept, like wyvern or the new French TB

[untold crater]

french tb 2nd BiS?

[candid sluice]

doesnt reveal aquila therefore good

[trail temple]

Need to run both that and BF109 so when hiryuu launches her scout planes we don't send up planes and they don't

and AA should be enough to shoot Hiryuu planes down

[candid sluice]

now that is true new meta

[cinder wolf]

revealing aquila split you dmg to snipe nj, therefore its bad

[untold crater]

where manjuu nj

and double sg vv

[candid sluice]

this is the meta according to quyet and gph

[pseudo copper]

Gph wouldn't use feather and fuel

Double cata

[untold crater]

double cata isn't even bad

[oblique silo]

No Wyvern

[trail temple]

Ok, here we go

[river marsh]

the feather is viable even when not used on french ships?

[trail temple]

I mean, it gives stats still

[untold crater]

avi eva

good equip

[somber monolith]

The only ships I have trouble dealing with are carriers, the rest I’ve found a way around

[calm mica]

Time to pull out my IJN defense

[untold crater]

My akaga fleet disintegrates

[harsh knot]

Look who it is

[pseudo copper]

[river marsh]

so satisfying seeing a rank 1 player on my pvp list

[untold crater]

dont see those

[river marsh]

+4

[fossil vine]

Everytime I see a top 10 on my list they are running some mafia team I can't beat 😭

[trail temple]

Non-meta life be that way

[untold crater]

Bro whipped out quyet fleet

[sweet relic]

Changed some things here and there

[untold crater]

457 NJ/VG, Table on VG, White shell/HPFCR, double sword on BB
Sea hornet on AQL
Swap torpedo bulge for manjuu

Do you not have Duca/noshiro?

[royal beacon]

Manjuu nj 😰

[sweet relic]

don't really like duca tbh

[untold crater]

For offense also don't want to be using WNT flag since it will slow down your battles

[sweet relic]

noshiro feels like she is dying too fast

[untold crater]

I use the same fleet as you but with duca over yuki

I don't think I have reset yet

[sweet relic]

icic, thanks dude

i'll go around and test it

[untold crater]

If you do decide to use duca, swap goldburn for fire extinguisher on Shima and use offensive loadouts on duca

No point in HP build on her since you're using vanguard

[sweet relic]

[candid sluice]

guys is plymouth good in pvp??

[uncut agate]

unfortunately no 🥲

[river marsh]

[empty mesa]

It's not USS at least.

[candid sluice]

hms smh

[glossy meteor]

Does anyone have any idea why a tip screen is shown when you lose?

[candid sluice]

they do it in every place u lose

except opsi

[uncut agate]

It's a reminder that you have skill issues

[light crystal]

Excuse me. Plymouth?

Nice

[rustic bridge]

3bb or 1 cv what a cv when

By bbs have i only this

[young storm]

im glad people cant watch replays of how you beat their fleet holy shit some of my wins are the most embarassing shit ever

[fossil vine]

It's AI and RNG anyway so I don't think anyone is gonna care if it's embarassing

[untold crater]

Yeah, not even those who get ShaNJuu'd

[trail temple]

I'm glad they don't too, so they see what I'm using

My Eugen strats are too big brained

[honest moon]

Be pvp not just a matter of quitting and restarting the same fight until you win...

[pseudo copper]

Guys, is Chkalov good for pvp?

[uncut agate]

no 🥲

[candid sluice]

i heard tchaikovsky is good in pvp

[river marsh]

he makes banger music too

[cinder wolf]

<@&472236072743600148>

[untold island]

gotcha

[cinder wolf]

ez snipe

[candid sluice]

[flat veldt]

[gray beacon]

[pseudo copper]

[cinder wolf]

[river marsh]

[ancient skiff]

[flat veldt]

[somber monolith]

[untold island]

@candid sluice do you think you can add the date of the last update in the pvp spreadsheet?

would ask for changelog but eh

[candid sluice]

well it says in the sheets itself and theres a changelog in there but last updated 7/7 with the current ongoing event

but if u wanted me to edit the msg with the date i could do that too

[untold island]

sorry I should have specified in the main page

the please read one

no worries just a suggestion

[candid sluice]

oh yea i could put it there too

tho we are planning to revamp the intro page later so it will be on there

[untold island]

neat

nice

[river marsh]

can you update the rankings of the people in your pvp list or is restarting the game the only option?

[winged depot]

Based on what I constantly do its by restarting only

[untold crater]

if they are not in the top 100, relogging is the only option

[neon bough]

Which augment is better for unicorn? (Retrofit)

[untold crater]

In pvp? Every CV wants scepter

For stats

[candid sluice]

Scepter

[untold crater]

EVA is OP

[neon bough]

[pseudo copper]

Even in campaign I'd go Scepter, skill on bow won't trigger anywhere important

[steel coral]

pve I like bow on uni cuz aa

but unquestionably scepter on anything pvp

[light crystal]

Hey guys, is Breast, I mean Brest meta?

[untold crater]

French CB

ofc not pvp ship

[neon bronze]

iwhat's the pvp comp for shimakaze? teatorps+black torp aux?

[uncut agate]

Yes

rainbow quint+oxy torp works too

[candid sluice]

guys is breast good in pvp??

[unreal mica]

is poi or aegir better at pvp than when i have ancho as tank?

[candid sluice]

whats your backline

but the answer is yuudabruh

[untold crater]

poi most of the time but theres better choices

[cinder wolf]

sanrui 2.0 for pvp

[oblique silo]

[frank wraith]

[rotund pulsar]

Huh
Why are some ships not able to participate in PvP?

[candid sluice]

are they doing a commission

[rotund pulsar]

Oh probably

[candid sluice]

well thats why

[untold crater]

"In Action"

[sleek heron]

forgot to do my pvps and there go 5 fights

[untold crater]

[final granite]

Yo ya'll
So i followed Salty's team guide and j did literally every equipment they had on every ship, and yet it takes me so many tries to beat lads on PVP. Just wanna ask is that normal?

You might say i face vanguards which i mean i'm not sure if shes the new meta and everyone swapped to her but I don't and people i face 90% of the time have the same ships i have

All the equipments are the same except for Aquilia because i don't have that stupid UR aircraft

[flat veldt]

[empty mesa]

Heal Aquila instead of Persy?

[pseudo copper]

Heal Aquila new meta

[candid sluice]

brother your aquila does not have preload

if u dont have 10rai u can use xc2 db from gearlab or just a helldiver

[winged depot]

So here's what i've been using currently wondering how I could use my tenrai somehow. Been thinking that impero is a good replacement for perseus? Idk. My account is just made mid january btw so no aquila but all the event ships in the year so far I have them all.

Works fine against those mafias with a lot of dedicated resets btw

[candid sluice]

you can swap persus to hiryu and use 10rai

[winged depot]

hmm but I don't need the preload then?

[candid sluice]

thats the point

so u can focus sniping backline bbs

[winged depot]

I see, thank you

[untold crater]

Aquila loses preload when she doesn't have a DB in 2nd slot

[trail temple]

literally every equipment they had on every ship
Doesn't use a DB on aquila...

Also, the guide does not have NJ in flag

[mellow charm]

should put heccdabber if no tenrai

[candid sluice]

👴

[winged depot]

Oh right, if shinano is reruning who should I replace there?

[candid sluice]

i wouldnt really replace her for anyone there

1 u dont have 3 ijn and 2 u dont have nj

[winged depot]

I could do 3 if with hiryuu and her but one of the bbs could get yeeted out

[candid sluice]

vg nano hiryu is an idea but i havent tested it out much

but weeb loses a lotta power without nj

[winged depot]

I see, nj damn you

[candid sluice]

just wait for her rerun cope

[sour oasis]

[vestal raptor]

What best pvp setup I can make if I dun hab NJ, VV, Aquila, Duca, Chise, Shima?

[trail temple]

We have a few experimental builds (i.e. we haven't tested them in the current format) that'll eventually make its way to the spreadsheet (hopefully). Can either use the traditional IJN setup (namagiryuu) or use unikai and warkai

[vestal raptor]

Ah been using namagiryuu for the last couple years and never change em. Feels sooo obsolete now

[winged depot]

based on experience fighting fdg she rarely hits her salvos tbh

but then again if its working with you then its fine I guess

end of season top 10?

nice

[trail temple]

Considering that you're using 5/6 ships from the mafia team... ofc it does well for the most part

[rustic bridge]

Enought for pvp

Can i win

[trail temple]

No

[rustic bridge]

Ok wait of next season

[candid sluice]

9k akaga backline has like no equips u can win

[trail temple]

1 shot he'll magically lose

[rustic bridge]

[final granite]

I'm literally following the same equipments on the pinned pics lol

[candid sluice]

there are zero fleets in the pins that tell you to run double fighter on aquila

[light crystal]

Must be Quyet-level mental gymnastics at work.

[candid sluice]

??? thats not double fighter aquila

and we already gave u alternatives if u dont have the rainbow dibvebomber

[final granite]

So you're telling me a single equipment is what's wrong?

[candid sluice]

yes

quite literally

[final granite]

Aight

[candid sluice]

change her second slot to a divebomber

[final granite]

Better?

[candid sluice]

there u go

[final granite]

Aight Thanks

[candid sluice]

no prob

[rustic bridge]

100% lose on this day

[river marsh]

bro

no one's attacking

+0 for 2 resets now

i use my attacks 10 mins before reset and their ranks stay the same

[untold crater]

gotta know who moves man

[pseudo copper]

Just dm people to move, ez

[candid sluice]

just do this

[river marsh]

[late heath]

Salty once DM me, but I rejected him

[flint python]

DM detected collusion rejected

[hearty pebble]

Thoughts on this feet? I saw it on YouTube but I thought I’d get more opinions before I invest

[steel coral]

Sorta outdated video but if you replace someone with ancho then it can work

[flint python]

quyet moment

[zenith lantern]

Very outdated, I think it will struggle, that vanguard does very little damage so you’re going to lose the vanguard fight and the main fleet doesn’t have the firepower to make up for it.

[untold crater]

Has NJ, add in ancho and Shima and it works 👍

[coral wren]

If you quit a ongoing pvp, will it affect your WR?

[untold crater]

No

Can win 1 battle and have 100% WR for the rest of your life

[neat yoke]

I play the game a lot but am a relative noob to PvP and I run a full German fleet. Should I build UvH and FdG for Tankyness or damage auxillary wise? I currently have them built for damage but I have the gold plates to switch over. Just wondering if its worth it or nah?

[flat veldt]

PvP prob isn't the place to run a full KMS fleet if you want consistent wins

But there are a few decent KMS backline ships like Seyd and FdG

Check the pins for sample loadout

Could do something like a 3BB variant with Seyd (flag), FdG, UvH

Full dps build (hpfcr & WS) on FdG and UvH, and defensive build (WNT & beaver) on Seyd

[candid sluice]

if you find your fdg often dropping low and proccing her skill u should add a bit more defense

could just equips wnt and have both def and off too

[neat yoke]

That's interesting. I always thought that CVs were super important for PvP due to the hidden carrier stuff and all so I took out Bismarck for AvP. But running 3BB with Seyd actually sounds worth a try.

[candid sluice]

triple bb fleets have been popping up more lately for their ability to sink enemy NJs quickly

[cinder wolf]

thats because wk skill tho, kms bb gonna shoot all over thr place

[tough crest]

I saw people using this fleet for pvp is this good?

[neat yoke]

Also I'm currently using the 457 on FdG and The NJ gun on UvH is that ok and should I just go with the community tier list and put the purple 406 on Seyd?

[candid sluice]

id swap uvh and seyd guns

[neat yoke]

Even though I'm going to build UvH for damage and Seyd for Tanking and UvH has higher baseline stats and efficiencies? The skills make that much of a difference?

[candid sluice]

uvh does her damage thru barrage spamming

the way pvp mechanics stack up she does next to no main gun damage

so if u were to force her into your fleet u would build her as a barrage spammer

[neat yoke]

Ahh makes sense

Thanks for all the help guys

[candid sluice]

no prob and good luck

[coral wren]

Top fleet (real)

[tough crest]

Time to spent 3k gems on promise rings

[coral wren]

Marry 5?

[tough crest]

3 bulins and 2 repair ships

1 more i can slap whatever i want

[coral wren]

[rustic bridge]

This fleet is stronger as my

[somber gale]

Azur Lane pvp is like
NJ, Shimakaze, Duca and Archo
All that i see in top 500 😩

Noshiro sometimes

[untold crater]

yes

[somber gale]

This is actually boring from how many ships ?
Only 4-5 are meta. Is like playing league but all you see is 5 same champs.

[untold crater]

difference is there is no balance patch in AL

[gloomy lantern]

I’ve been running into this fleet, I can’t beat it

This is what I’m using

My Main Fleet just crumbles

I was able to beat it after 4 resets, Shimakaze got lucky and sunk Anchorage as soon as the battle began

But I wonder if BB meta is powercreeping Pasta meta

[untold crater]

gear gapped

you FP is so low it seems you're lacking gears

as well as VV/duca 120 still

[south leaf]

Level up your ships to 125

First

[zenith lantern]

That fleet is decent but not amazing, it's just a gear issue

3xBB with Warspite instead of FDG is pretty good though

[gloomy lantern]

Where is my gear issue?

VV doesn’t have a STAGG

I know that one

[floral wave]

aquila has double steam cata

nj doesnt have radar

[gloomy lantern]

I thought all carriers generally used double steam catapult

[floral wave]

no beaver badge/pearls tears

wrong torps on ancho aswell iirc

carriers generally use double steam cata ... in pve

vv doesnt have radar aswell

[gloomy lantern]

So to do PvP I need to change the ship builds to something other than their PvE build every single time I play PvP?

That’s…annoying

[floral wave]

just raise a 2nd copy of every ship

[untold crater]

Shimakaze - hybrid build on shima, with those equip its better tp swap out oxytorps for pearl tears.
Duca - toolbox on duca, personally i'd run an oxytorp on her over toolbox, as for that AA gun, i'd use a sextuple on her if you have it, otherwise its fine.
Anchorage - rudder on ancho, imo you'd want manjuu damage control on her, as for her gun, i'd use the 203mm USS CA gun from gear lab if you dont have 234mm drake gun from pr3, and that AA gun, i'd swap it out for a sextuple also, but if you dont have it can use a quad bofors like on duca.
NJ - you'll want either table from VG event or a HPFCR from pr3/4
VV - i dont recommend AP on her, prefer HE so use 406MK7 from NJ event, and for swapping out the black shell, i'd use beaver badge.
Aquila - double catapult is fine but i'd heavily recommend the feather from this event and 50/150 fuel from core shop.

[untold crater]

game has a save gear feature for a reason, but apart from NJ, Ancho and Shimakaze, you wont be swapping gears as well as the PvP gears are more than good enough to clear any content in PvE

[fossil vine]

Only problem with save gear is if one of the items is on another character it won't take it off them when you click change

[untold crater]

That's why I just get spare gears lol

[fossil vine]

Sure, can't for all gear though. Some of it is unique like beaver, the new control table, manjuu

[light crystal]

I would use Quint rainbow mags on Duca, and an HE gun on VV (Mk6/Mk7/Monarch). Also, SOMEONE needs to be using Manjuu. Preferably Ancho. Also, use Pearls, on either Duca or Shima. If u have VV on Flagship, I would use HPFCR + tanking gear, preferably Beaver, for the VG speed boost. Also, lose a shell on NJ for an HPFCR.

Consider putting WNT (Off-tank) on Aquila as well, that or Feather (From this event).

[untold crater]

have the feeling he's lacking all the collection gears

using none

[light crystal]

They shouldn't be hard to get. If he has all those meta Ships and not the Collectible Gears, that's very strange to say the least

[untold crater]

yeah definitely easy since they're all perma and almost all are drops

[gloomy lantern]

I have them all, they're on my PvE ships

[untold crater]

well, now you know what to do

[gloomy lantern]

The damage control module isn't on my ships because it's crap in PvE where I use Anchorage. Same with Pearl's Tears. Beaver Tag is on Agir

[untold crater]

yeah pearl isnt so good in pve

[gloomy lantern]

But thanks for the feedback, I do know what to do now

[light crystal]

Huh?

[untold crater]

but damage control i use it to survive for META fights

[light crystal]

She's meant to be a tank. Manjuu makes her a literal wall in pve as well

U only use ancho to tank

[gloomy lantern]

I don't need it, my damage in Meta fights is enough that the added survivability won't change the number of clears I need to win.

I kill it in 2 clears

Getting an extra salvo off won't change that. But at that point I guess adding the module won't hurt either over the torp bulge

[light crystal]

Either way, the recommended gear for ancho should be rudder/beaver + manjuu, pve and pvp

[gloomy lantern]

Thanks, I'll change it to that right away

[light crystal]

do u have cosmic kicks too?

[gloomy lantern]

Yes

[light crystal]

consider putting that on duca instead of rudder

for speed stat

[gloomy lantern]

Good idea, I can do that

[light crystal]

w/e u do, someone, anyone, needs to be using beaver

losing out on 20% speed buff is huge

My personal suggestion is putting it on vv, but u can put on ancho too.

[gloomy lantern]

Will do

[untold crater]

pref vv beaver and rudder+manjuu ancho

[brazen socket]

Who should prio this gun between vanguard and nj in the vanny team

I dont have 457 so im working with what I have

[untold crater]

VG

she wants to fire first

[brazen socket]

alr

[untold crater]

get 2 tho

both on NJ/Vg if you dont have 1 457

but if you do have 1 457 use on NJ

[brazen socket]

If I cant make another one rn whats the next best gun?

this is what I have

[untold crater]

that +12 fdg gun on gasco

[brazen socket]

alr

[celest rune]

Which team is better for pvp?

(Helena retro will replace Monty soon)

[coral wren]

1st ig

[steel coral]

helena doesn't sync with akaga too well

and independece can sync with her and also gets a buff from monty/other cleveland class

[untold crater]

That VG needs work

[ivory bear]

hello... anyone from sandy server?

[floral wave]

no, but whats the screen for

[candid sluice]

Congrats

[late heath]

screen for 1st place on Wednesday

[untold crater]

impressive

lv70 cmd

[river marsh]

it's so hard managing the attacks

because of the timezone

americans get to have 12 hrs without a reset on their sleep

while i have to manage 2 resets

[steel coral]

just use vpn

[river marsh]

im waiting for 1 of these people to move so i can get my +1 and sleep

amagi is kinda hard to top 10 eos

top 10 starts at 2587-88

[flat veldt]

Heard it was 2589 once

[untold crater]

tbh it was 82 last season lol

[river marsh]

oh

still waiting for my +1

[river marsh]

btw when do you get pvp list refresh

on daily reset?

[fossil vine]

every time you log in

Or do you mean how many battles yo ucan use?

[candid sluice]

when you tap reset button or new season

[river marsh]

i mean when you can refresh your pvp list

like the people you fight

[fossil vine]

Oh, think answer on wiki somewhere

[river marsh]

when do you get more of that

[fossil vine]

'Time until the next refresh is displayed under the number of remaining attempts, as well as a button to switch the current opposing fleets with 4 new ones that are adjusted to the player's current Rank. This button can only be used 5 times per day, resetting at 00:00 JST(UTC+9). The number of available remaining resets is not displayed.'

[river marsh]

so on daily resets

[fossil vine]

yea looks like it

[river marsh]

only 5

[fossil vine]

xD

[candid sluice]

yea 5 tickets a day

[cunning jay]

yeah, i think reaching top 100 is quite an achievement for me

[river marsh]

im aiming for top 10 rn

if i fuck up

i'll end up at top 15

top 100 is easy to get

i have reached top 100 while missing 3-4 battles

[cinder wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842797230485143583/959254368065052702/4b93f0ff805296ac.mp4

go for r1

[untold crater]

Can also reach rank 1 missing 5 battles, don't give up and keep trying

[river marsh]

[exotic badger]

Do I equip warspite with ap gun when I want to snipe backrow or rely on her special barrage?

[untold crater]

ap gun

[naive sleet]

What kind of torpedo bombers are the best for pvp ? Guided or parallel?

[steel coral]

parallel

[coral wren]

Can shiano be a good alternative to aquila or id it wors, amd do we know when we have a rerun for Aquila?

[flint python]

yes pair her with hiryuu

[candid sluice]

Nano and aquila do different things

[untold crater]

different ship

need a whole different fleet if you want to use nano

[coral wren]

Yes but I have wasfire in the place

Ok but do we know when we have a rerun of aquila?

[candid sluice]

still a while to go

[final granite]

Watashi wa numba wan

[untold crater]

[flat veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/clap-gif-18645665

[cinder wolf]

wtf howwwww

[final granite]

Well not anymore lol

[flat veldt]

btw, are you related to bucherlord?

[final granite]

Maybe

I think i can say that i do have relations even if just spiritual

[candid sluice]

hes one of the lord family

[rocky shadow]

Damn pvp getting harder and harder today (unlucky for me not getting NJ)

[mellow charm]

You arent a lord until drachenlord says so

[astral hull]

San Diego moments

[fleet laurel]

is suruga good at exercise?

[light crystal]

Not really, but if u got no other good bb

If u lack NJ, might as well nagato/shinano/hiryuu it up

[north sentinel]

[stable dawn]

[swift oyster]

My first Admiral of the Navy!

[flat veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-you-made-it-congrats-gif-12419756

[candid sluice]

congrat

[unreal beacon]

Aquila vs shinnano

[untold crater]

Different roles

Aquila if you have VV or VG

[midnight crest]

is there a exercise ship tier list?

[untold crater]

Not a good one

But if you check the pinned spreadsheet there's a team comp tier list

Essential ships to pvp are NJ/Ancho/Shima

[river marsh]

👍

[candid sluice]

tiering individual ships is stupid

we dont do that here

[pseudo copper]

If it were tiered on individual basis, you'd just have shit comps or subpar

[rocky shadow]

Look at rank 15

It is possible? Lvl 70 reach aotn?

Before that he was rank 6

[flat veldt]

AotN is easy another guy in my server got it at lvl 67

[steel coral]

I bet that guy must be really handsome and cool, right?

[flat veldt]

yea probably... does someone have his discord? I wanna chat with him 😳

[trail temple]

Like how Yukana just wants to "chat" with Famine, his number 1 idol?

[quick vessel]

this a good setup for pvp

the only ship i had i guess

[candid sluice]

the backline is ok the front not great

replace portland and z23 with yukikaz

[quick vessel]

ow

aite

soon i think

[candid sluice]

and start developing anchorage

[quick vessel]

kk

[coral wren]

Does de nieuw pr 5 ship in the shipyard good for pvp or nobody has tested?

[winged depot]

Of course no one can test yet its pr it takes a long time to raise

[candid sluice]

judging by their kits there really isnt much pvp potential aside from maybe plymouth but of course no testing has been done yet

[coral wren]

Hmm ok i asked to see if anyone have pr5 ship to test

[candid sluice]

hasnt even been 7 days since pr5 came out

[winged depot]

Its still new so wait for like a month/s I guess

[coral wren]

Ok thanks, i just asked

[marsh fog]

Perseus, Shinano and uvh?

For front line Agir, aya and sandy

Should i replace aya with suzutsuki

?

[candid sluice]

who are your other options

[trail temple]

Looks like ragtag group of ships for PvP

[rustic bridge]

Realy how should i win of to strong anouther fleets

[royal beacon]

How about that reset button instead

[rustic bridge]

Can not more reset

[floral wave]

cant win
cant reset
try different ships?

[sterile crescent]

+13 your Auxiliaries>guns/planes/torps or just change a few ships around. Unfortunately if your def fleet is your attack fleet too, it aint gonna do much against the sweaty comps especially the uber ghei ones.

[rustic bridge]

have 0 good gears

[sterile crescent]

Time to farm then

[rustic bridge]

my fdg on time

And have on this gun w14 play

[sterile crescent]

Gotta get that 457 bud

Dunno if fleet tech helps in pvp too though

[rustic bridge]

and win doesn't count

[candid sluice]

Internet issues 🤝

[rustic bridge]

I need a better flag ship

[coral wren]

Witch one is better for warspite? Or kan I set it to New Jersey?

[steel coral]

I like table on warspite since more hit and also spread reduction nice since she hits backline more

[coral wren]

So i let it on warspite and i don't set it on New?

[steel coral]

can do either

just my preference

[untold crater]

Pref NJ

[dapper stone]

how do I improve this? dont have NJ, cant seem to beat shinano/nj/hiryuu

ok nvm, just won.

[coral wren]

Jou can have NJ and aquila and it is a good team

[untold crater]

Don't use UvH

Use a preload CV instead

[dapper stone]

dont have anything before nj

(including nj)

[untold crater]

Aquila>Percy>Chise>Unikai in that order

[dapper stone]

used to run chise or perseus not sure if better

with only 2 bb do I still use vanguard? or fdg instead?

[untold crater]

VG

[dapper stone]

what percy aux

[untold crater]

Can also run VG/Chise/Percy, works well

[untold crater]

Catapult/Fuel

She's just there for the reveal

[dapper stone]

dont have tenrai tho

[untold crater]

Percy doesn't have DB slot

[dapper stone]

for chise I mean

[untold crater]

Can use gold helldiver, but not sure if it's worse

[dapper stone]

which fighters?

[coral wren]

Sea hornets

[untold crater]

Sea hornet best

[dapper stone]

what makes them better than tiger cats actually

[steel coral]

speed

[untold crater]

It's a slight difference but it is a difference nonetheless

[dapper stone]

this fine? or rainbow ap gun

[untold crater]

Rainbow AP gun

[dapper stone]

ay ty

[coral wren]

Fleet Admiral most likely gonna be my highest rank by the time Monday hits

[flat veldt]

What does SC in your name stand for?

[candid sluice]

super coll*der of course

[coral wren]

It's in Twitter

[untold crater]

[candid sluice]

recruit this man immediately

[flat veldt]

Mind if I ask which guild you're in?

[coral wren]

World's End guild

[flat veldt]

Are you interested in learning how to rank higher in pvp?

[river marsh]

this feels like a pyramid scheme

[flat veldt]

His IGN is too good

[north lark]

Is PvP 15 attempts per day?

[candid sluice]

yes

[candid sluice]

kaya opening up coaching sessions??

[coral wren]

No need, I already have knowledge how to do it

[coral wren]

Only 10 can be stored, however miss 5 and there'd be no chance of getting higher ranks

[candid sluice]

you could be rank 1

[cinder wolf]

you could reach highest rank with even more missing match

kaya taught me how to do so

[flat veldt]

I taught a lvl 67 commander how to get AotN this season

[coral wren]

Duh it's mostly because it's a good defense fleet, Not surprised with the classic Aquila-VV combo, even I couldn't defeat it at times

[flat veldt]

Mafia is mid

[river marsh]

what's better than mafia

[dreamy lance]

https://tenor.com/view/misato-misatokatsuragi-evangelion-nge-nerv-gif-20934767

[river marsh]

[flat veldt]

Idk never heard of this guy... Hope you find his discord

[dreamy lance]

Hopefully!

[coral wren]

Maybe just by using Yuki

[river marsh]

he's banned from ALO

[coral wren]

I also forgot Vanguard-Perseus, or Aquila-Perseus combo, I couldn't defeat it

[flat veldt]

I should coach him.... Teach him the art of sandbagging

[coral wren]

Or placing Anchorage in the center of Vanguard fleet + Elite damage control, that's where I got the 1st of my 2 losses

[river marsh]

why place ancho in the middle

[dreamy lance]

That is unfortunate! Where do you think I can reach him?

[river marsh]

why do you want to talk to him that badly

[dreamy lance]

I want to engage in a meeting of Misato simplords

[coral wren]

Maybe to keep the vanguard fleet alive while trying to annihilate Main fleet

[flat veldt]

Manjuu Anchorage???

[candid sluice]

you have much to learn young grasshopper

[coral wren]

Yeah that's where I lost it after 156 consec wins

[flat veldt]

He's right about Perseus being OP tho

[cinder wolf]

156 wins is that even possible???

[river marsh]

hax

[flat veldt]

Dam... wish I had a win streak like that

[coral wren]

Not surprised if they got AotN by getting all wins

[river marsh]

i can only get winstreaks if i leave the battle when i am about to lose

[cinder wolf]

[flat veldt]

Yea AotN is impossible to get if you miss or lose your pvps

[candid sluice]

winning does tend to give u points

[river marsh]

eos aotn you mean

i got aotn last season despite overcapping and losing 5 battles

[coral wren]

Spoiler:
||Go for the leftmost, whether strong or meme fleet||

[cinder wolf]

did kaya coach you?

[river marsh]

always fight the leftmost guy

[candid sluice]

10 overcaps can still easily get aotn

[river marsh]

on the list

[flat veldt]

Someone pin this

[cinder wolf]

any reason why i have to go leftmost?

[river marsh]

someone @ a mod

[candid sluice]

what if i cant beat my leftmost opponent

[flat veldt]

What if I'm right handed

[coral wren]

You don't get a lot of pts

[candid sluice]

but i still get 10 points regardless if its leftmost or middle opponent

whats up with that

[river marsh]

[coral wren]

Like half the actual pts you get when you're fleet gets defeated

[river marsh]

what

[flat veldt]

You get points when you lose???

[cinder wolf]

you get point upon defeated?

[flat veldt]

Sniped

[untold crater]

[north lark]

Explains a lot

[cinder wolf]

😳

[north lark]

I missed like 15 by now

Was top 200 last season

[untold crater]

Half the merit, +0 pt

[north lark]

Can’t even get into top 1k rn

[winged depot]

Missing 15 is huge