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pr5 comes soonish, will u try fs5 ancho prints beforehand? 🤔
cant wait for ancho fs5 boosting her torp dmg
probably not unless its super op
think with pr5 you will get 300 pr4 print catch up
if its some shit like extra dmg not gonna be super useful
she is fake
How long did that take? (I logged into my weak ass account for Rally and those "do 3 exercises" quests were really tough (and required a day or two of refreshing to get a weak enough defense)
Anchorage FS V torpedo made it so that enemy ships can’t read
Juneau's honorary IJN
most likely ancho fs is she gets both buff from s1
Couldn't beat 125s, but yeah a lot of refreshing and looking for weak fleets
pvp is always rough on new profiles
gotta refresh and pray someone puts up a meme def
Let's see if I can beat my score of 1989 next time
in all honesty 1989 is a great score to end up on for early players
When I first joined this server and was a new players, I keep getting 5 points below that score
Mikoto orwell? 

Yeah, it's a hard score to get to early on
👀
Yes.
I lost one fight earlier this week because I got distracted.

Got Aotn
Unlucky
Also had a terrible start of season since none of the first four I got touched PvP all day.
Yeah those starts really drag your score down 13 days later
early season matters a lot.
as you can clearly see from my current score and scores 1 week ago
And mine !
i thought week 1 doesnt matter 

pvp too hard life too busy
Ehem, I'm proud of my 30th placement

cucked in 2022
which server is that dead server 2nd from the left? 

This is the real leaderboards no one talks about
Always has been
I honestly thought I overcapped lol
just in time
i finished with 3 secs left and leaderboards refreshed right as i checked it 
so got that nice ss
;pace 3 88
Who even come up with the term over cap
thank you nard very cool
Nard vpn with express delivery 
;pace 69 2600
sorry bro but my secretary carlos is on vacation rn
;pace 64 1989
Does weapon modules actually helps to deal with torpmeme preload fleets by slashing torpedoes?
if i wanted to make a pvp fleet with my dock, what should i do as idk whats good
can start by showing your dock
shima mid and hold the pearl
right
Juneau fine

This right?
I swear I had shima at the left before 
I mean mid
oh wait I think that was my def fleet
Uhh, I have like 389 ships
show what u have leveled
No NJ?
p-p-percy 
Dislike unikai
Need to wait for her to survive 20s
Percy just pump and dump can die at 5s np
ya im pretty interested also
I just noticed the lack of anchorage in ss above
i saw something similar on lexi and it gave me some issues

Juneau/Shimakaze/Seattle?
it just melts tho… no anchorage is so shit

Just use ancho
sir, did you even bother to read my dock or are you just naming best ships in game
?
YOU HAVE THOSE SHIPS?
only not anchorage, but shes is literally permanent
and usable at dev 10
too good not to use

if you dont want to lvl up ships u can say that btw no shame

i dont own any of the good ships
if you took any time to look at my dock i dont own ancho
are you reading your own dock
just develop
u dont have 900 tech pts?
that doesnt help me this second

idk why i bothered asking
man this is unreal
even after you lvl those ships up. you'll need gear
😭 why ask for results on the spot
btw @untold crater from my adventures in gph i have realised that this guy doesnt listen to white names
so we should all stfu
we aren’t cool enough


did you not read this comment
ffs
i showed my dock
suggests ships not in my dock
😭
anchorage take 3 month to develop?
it takes 1 week to develop anchorage
news to me man
you know what, shutup, your first comment was 'no nj' so youre clearly here to troll
if u want to use now just use ur highest level
person with most rank 1s in amagi here to troll

very interesting
look at the top of you dock? you showed like 80 ships, thats why i asked
i asked for what fleet i could make now
i dont have 500 prints for ancho
nor the gold for it
so shut
just use ur highest level
50 is like enough 😭
shut
and hit meme fleet
your opinion means nothing to me
hard to pvp properly without anchorage
apologies
can you help on this
lets start over, you want a fleet with only your 120/125s?
whats the point of asking for my fleet, then not caring
no screw it, your help isnt wanted, ill jsut use whatever and keep losing fights





saltyarrow combo breaker???
so uh
honestly get a mod in here, to deal with your dumb responses
just utilize someone instead of ancho

should I call silent here?
literally said “dont play pvp seriously without anchorage cuz its copium”
yea let him see all the toxicity the guy threw at us

@jolly lichen your presence is required here 
damn the one time he isnt camping this channel

when they needed him the most he disappeared
like my father
idk maybe leipzig since u also have seyd
@cinder wolf 
Leizpig is cinnamon
he meant your help not mine 
actually i meant the 'no nj' guy
i show my dock, ignores it
Who are you people? 
for now you can use:
- Indep/Enty/WK/Kron/Shima/Yuudachi
and slowly swap out that fleet for - VG/Percy/WK/Anchorage/Shima/Juneau
Percy is already 125 but recommend only swapping when VG 120, Ancho can swap whenever dev 10+ lvl 110+, Juneau can be swapped in at 115+ with lv10 heal skill
better?

yukana en moment
he said that? i ignore ppl that say they dont want my help
i know when they want it
🙂
anyway ruu got any ideas?
copy paste the same message 
for now you can use:
- Indep/Enty/WK/Kron/Shima/Yuudachi
and slowly swap out that fleet for - VG/Percy/WK/Anchorage/Shima/Juneau
Percy is already 125 but recommend only swapping when VG 120, Ancho can swap whenever dev 10+ lvl 110+, Juneau can be swapped in at 115+ with lv10 heal skill


LOL
we all had same idea

Can we drop the hostilities already
He's only listening to Rumi cauz Rumi finished before you last season 
im just answering questions
not you
real, all my advice comes from rumi 
its pretty clear where the "hostility" started
if they don't know what they want, ask them to clarify, instead of whatever this moshpit was
no i was being passive-agressive when he asked for an insta fleet
Same, Rumi coached me in pvp and because of him, I have 6 EoS R1's 
was good season, see again when i have free time
rumi coached me in pve and now repulse meta is dead
the advice that yukana gave out was genuinely good
you meant that i give him?
and "go develop anchorage" is great advice and a plan to set up success
His attitude wasn’t bad as well imo, guy didn’t clarify what we wanted - seemed like genuine misunderstanding until guy started slinging insults at him
thats called long term
thats not this second
its not long term tho
it is
dev10 doesnt take more than two weeks
not specified long or short term, u only specified it later
and if you wanted suggestions for replacement you could have simply said "hey i dont have anchorage at the current moment, who should i use in the meantime while i develop her?" instead of aggressively lashing out at the person giving you the advice
i dont have the gold, prints, retrofit parts, etc for ancho
yukana also gave a very good argument that immediate success in pvp was going to be hard
how about your first statement isnt 'no nj'
you ask for my dock, you get my dock
he just asked
tbh with his currect ships might as well use helena over yuudachi and pray for a proc
what
what is wrong with that my brother in christ
are you really taking that question as an insult or something
ofc once again salty wanting to cause a fight with me by defending thier friend
didnt get all, thats why i said "No NJ?"
ah now im the bad guy 

can someone pin this message
im defending the person that i think is in the right
I have raised my lil chesh at lvl 120 since her debut, can I help you?
No you guys are all Yukana dickrider tbh cool off 
pvp is not short term, it is a long term process
trying to do pvp with shit ships and gears is just going to make your experience worse
can we just pin that so people dont want a pvp fleet immediately when they simply dont got good options
yeah if you didn't specify what you wanted "rn" their advice is infinitely more valuable
ancho is your passeportout
im trying to be as respectful as i can trying to put this issue into perspective, yet youre pointing fingers at me saying im only doing this because i know the other person
@keen silo @candid sluice i just noticed nvm
they call me the dr phil of pvp
:nimiB:
if you read my original question, oud see i said 'with my dock' meaning what is currently in it
obviously you all en'd and went straight to 'best in gmae'
thats a stretch to say the least
If you read my message you'd see there's a question mark at the end...
sure there might have been a bit of miscommunication, but telling us we cant read and resorting to aggression doesnt solve the issue
im sorry when theres always 3+ people who all wanna dogpile me i get defensive, i clearly stated what i wanted, apparently it wasnt
Real and true
if it was a misunderstanding
I could have helped him myself guys
if you want to advise on life-coaching we have #off-topic, if you want to genuinely help people or discuss pvp stay here
anyways i just hope we can all learn smth from this exchange and not repeat the same mistake 
It's a catboy, no barking done here
and real advice was given already anw by your good friend ruu
damn mb ill put myself in the detention room
sorry for jus fuck around in this channel
has anyone done any v meta tests with percy/van/war yet?
i did hiryuu vg warkai
im still working on raising my vg cus im 🐌 but there are ppl in ninja channel who have done a bit of playtesting with her
idt persus is better than hiryuu
might be better to ask there
Used NJ and it works, imagine it's a bit worse with VG, but can test later this season
But quite a bit worse than mafia
it’s poverty option more than anything

my current fleet is Chise/Enty/War kai | Shima/Helena/Sandy, cause debuff and planes, war kai idk, her snipe ability i guess
That's 20% WR with that US BB AA shit

shes still a good choice for people who recently joined the game and dont have older rainbow ships
vg + two perma ships in warka and hiryu is pretty beginner friendly
yeh
i showed a fleet before
warkai/vg/hiryuu/ancho/yukikaze/juneau
very solid for newbies
low rainbow requirement too, only needs 1 wyvern and 1 gearlab gun or 457
pretty sure i added it to the spreadsheet as well
@flat veldt

おやすみ 
englis only pls 
Well, that VG seems to be set up improperly, your left most ship usually tanks, middle is protected and right is off-tank so in case of that VG you'd want Sandy/Shima/Helena order, but still, Kron will provide more utility as a tank, as for the back line still imagine independence will net you much more dmg, from my testing independence can matcha NJ dmg, and she has quite a fast AS, while Chise is a budget Aquila
Well, that VG seems to be set up improperly, your left most ship usually tanks, middle is protected and right is off-tank so in case of that VG you'd want Sandy/Shima/Helena order, but still, Kron will provide more utility as a tank, as for the back line still imagine independence will net you much more dmg, from my testing independence can matcha NJ dmg, and she has quite a fast AS, while Chise is a budget Aquila
Ruwu22 to the rescue
np
R uwu

plagiarism will not be tolerated in the azur lane pvp channel 
sandy off tank cause her usefulness to kill planes, and shima is only useful for first burst plus one or 2 bursts
AA in PvP is not like in PvE
if it keeps my cvs alive
Shimas bursts can go a long way if you run black torp
never forget her nj nuke
And Shima for me tends to live past that mark and do quite a hefty amount of damage (40-60k)
your cv will be alive regardless, they have atker advantage
But if my suggested fleet doesn't work for you, use whatever works best for you, just an advice channel, not a church no gospel here 
shima torp dump can win you games in the first 5secs of the match so shes a must add if u have her
She also can waste enemy juneau 
Hello, i need help making a pvp fleet
are u serious ark 
Yes
send dock pics
Give me fleet suggestions brah 
Send dock
📌
Ok
sweaty pvp coaching season? 
How come pvp doesnt have access to threads, both are help channels
something about not enough traffic
we arent important enough
too little ppl use this channel so mods didnt see a need to enable them
did u get VG?
Yes
I can lvl her up to 120 if needed
ancho shima duca for mafia
ancho shima juneau/noshiro for vg fleet
gear and stuff is mostly pinned so its fine
and equips can just open pinned fleet in spreadsheet
Yeah will check it out
if u missing any of those eq then we can give u alternatives

This good ye?
for ships yea but fleet power is low
fleetwise yea but your fp looks low
I havent geared them yet ♿
at least t1
same tier as ijn fleet
Gear them harder
just right below

mafia
Isn't this fleet in the pins?
is
The mafia one?
vanguard?
the vaguard mafia
top 2 lexington using vanguard mafia
borgar used it
no mafia representation in top 3 of lexington
Oh, I was referring to this one
last season?
ye
in eos push?
ye
mhm
very cool
Yeah
that fleet is just copypaste mafia so yea its on the sheets
u mean u want to see aoste saying its meta?
aoste calling it meta means that it is far from meta
ok that makes 2 servers’ rank 1.

Ill try too
Im gonna use it 
would be nice to see video recording of the fights too
doesnt mean much if all u do is roll over mutsuki defense fleets

What is this bagging of sand you speak of
brah
someone should link alm’s vid
I was pretty happy with vg performance
10% dmg buff with teatorps is simply toxic
^
especially considering shinano doesn’t reduce her own dmg from torp
want to test my wr vs kaya, forced to take a +9 bc of it last season so if i can not struggle vs ijn it'd be a lifesaver 
Whats sandbagging 
idk how to explain it
This is a guide for players looking to rank high in Exercises (PvP) in Azur Lane. The information in this video is a culmination of my personal experience reaching Admiral of the Navy and data mining. I believe this has been the most anticipated video of late. I was able to get it done in less than 2 months this time. Enjoy!
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yeh thats better
guide, its a way of maximizing points gained from exercises
thats a simple guide for it
alm vids on pvp basics are already pinned just further down

I'm gonna watch the vid later once im off work 
Though do be wary I don't have much of the pvp dedicated gears 
its whatever, lexi is ez
is there a way to make mafia suck a lot, with slurping?
can try your luck with NJ/VG/AQL/Ancho/Shima/Juneau
What is that supposed to mean
troll questioj in pvp chat?????
how to beat mafia
I jsut hate some mafia ships, and won't use Juneau too.
yikes
what exactly IJN?
use noshiro
check the pins.
too much letters
NJ/Shinano/Hiryuu/Ancho/Shima/Noshiro
ok, thanks

A Kashino enjoyer
https://youtube.com/channel/UCmsd3O_hCmDSWdqWXiD9EfQ
Here you go, these are all fights against some of the top players on Lexington.
all bout pvp video 
at least one time top 100 kappa 
owo. close. later ig

Would sandbagging still work even if I got only 5 exercise tries when pvp reset happens
Waiting is always better even if you only want to sit at 5 exercises not at 10
as long as you still have tickets you can always try to bag
What kind of bag
can still sandbag but mostly sandbaggers just 0/10 after a few movers and gradually transition to 10/10 bagging for more consistent scores
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3lC0KdjyAE any opinions?
lol quyet


now that's what we like to see
🙏

Bless the rushers
I'm nto sure if this is safe or should I wait before reset, thoughts?
weren’t u at 10/10
usually when u see a mover on ur list which is a huge rank difference just attack him and wait more
Did 5 cause I gto scared for a sec 
Reset only adds 5, not 10
Was at 4k
What is it that you're scared about?
But i did attack a person that was at the 100's
Try to aim for more movers/rushers then
Wouldn't clear a reset unless too busy/asleep to do fights before next reset

yeap
Cos my timezone I always have to full clear before sleep
but I can bag the next 2
not full clear sorry, just to 5/10
List looks fine, I don't play on your server so idk if they'll actually move but guessing by the levels it seems like they will
I just learned that opponent list is different when you switch devices 
the fuck
hackerman
I should've taken a pic when I was on 10/10 earlier
But yeah the opponent list differs between devices
mine doesnt change
mine is the same between phone and bluestacks
same as phone/ipad/bs
Wtf 
maybe u refresh by accident
were you on 10/10 on both?
Mine is same on 3 different devices
it could have been the same opponents but the left most had moved?
Probably
Ill try to pay more attention next time
nah they said they were at 10/10 both times
are you referencing the gph pic?
yes
most likely they had moved and switched positions
probably checked the phone hours later
list is same for me on phone and emu
You have a pet emu?
yes hes a friend of my secretary carlos
Is there a way i can tell midseason if im on track to get aotn? Like from current rank or something
the sureest way to get aotn is to light bag the start
like just collect bonuses and do pvp later
The surest way is to have no life
thank u aoste

do u need a life enabler as well
I dunno, do u
nah im retired
Forever sub 2589
2593 btw


use the ;pace command to see how well u are doing
;pace 9 6969
@sand cape u can do what chien does which is just sandbag 2 resets and empty to 0/10 when you sleep
guaranteed aotn once u zero out
Alright
Well what i do is do 10 right before server reset, then 5 around 6 hours after server reset, thats fine right
try to get bonuses on your 10 ticket reset
bonus is like this, if theres a large rank difference week 1 or on week 2 u can see +35 on leaderboard
bonuses past 1050 point are extra 1 point for a guy 35 above, check pins for more info
@sand cape

Btw the actual score volatility for all of them except the +35 is a bit lower
If the next pvp tries are when I sleep should I stay awake as long as I can then do 5 pvp tries then make up when I wake up the day after
If you cannot stay up for your pvps yes do them beforehand
i always drop to 5/10 when i know ill be busy or sleeping past a reset
better to do them and get points instead of missing them
its still like 3hrs till refresh
reset is in 3h
Im so happy rn
Thank you for rushing now do it again tomorrow
I do it every day but only get to rank 10-15
I dunno how i lucked past it this time

thank you for your services 
is there a decent pvp fleet comp using monarch? been struggling trying to find a good combination
howe is a good suggestion
i am conflicted however because i agree with your opinion on HMS and most of my ships are iron blood lol
ill prolly work on a iron blood fleet instead
theres not really a fleet that revolves around monarch
however shes not a terrible pick if you dont have access to the top ships
her barrage is fixed and AP rounds so she can put in work against backline
noted
im running this as pvp now, i have the ships required to do the NJ hiryuu shinano thing except anchorage
are there any other meta fleets that use mostly iron blood
unfortunately the meta does not favor ironblood
altho u could try the seydlitz fleet
oh ok
You're better off not focusing on a specific faction
Use the best ships you have regardless of faction
Had to sleep in a few mins after I sent that message
guess who won
you
Me
the only way to win is by not playing 
Is there a strategy to getting AotN?
Waiting for people on your lineup to move. Going to 5/10 tickets 15 min before next reset. Then rushing for AoTN second Friday of the season. You could rush for AoTN during the last 2 days
So essentially hold attempts until the last minute and while never overcapping on attempts?
Specifically waiting for your leftmost to be a big rank gap. It'll give extra points. Just that and don't miss/lose exercises and it's just that easy
You can get aotn easy by building up a large point lead in week 1 (check the pins) then rushing at the right time in week2
yes
Amagi ez pvp anyways
doubt
It is, just make a competent fleet and should steamroll
Probably a smurf
Not likely
didn't catch a glimpse
Just git gud is what having a lv64 in top 100 means
I heard someone here got 1989 score last season on amagi as a new player
mamagi
Who there name is?
@trail temple
Sussy.
Anyone mind helping me with pvp advice?
Or like could come look at my roster and see what I can even do,cuz I have never touched pvp yet and seeing all these powerful people I'm alittle overwhelmed xD
@pseudo copper are you online?
dw, someone will help 
sure what do u need
Just like guidance on what team to make,to do with em etc,would mind if i do a screen share?
if you need a general idea of strong fleets there is a spreadsheet in the pins listing out the top fleets, if u want a team made with the current ships u have you can send screenshots of your dock here sorted by main and vanguard ships

I mainly wanna grind out arena cuz I love South Dakota and trynna ya know,get her ,I have decent equipment
I just ya know,not sure what would go well instead of just kind smushing people together
yea send your current equipment too
fairly new player i see did u join during seydlitz event
Alright ,one sec
Uh,I I think,I sorta joined right when that Luztow outfit was about to go away
Nah I wasn't fortunate
ah that sucks
no nj?
your current ships really limits the fleets u can make
I'm not blessed with great luck in alot of gachas lmao
I could help but idk those new ships
honestly from where u are in the game atm i think its better for u to stack up a fleet with your highest level ships and pick fights that u know u can win
also get yourself a helena from guild shop and raise her shes a cheatcode for new players
Teach him a pvp offense reset trick too

did u at least manage to buy the rainbow gaming table aux equip from last events shop
nope
youch
He have juneau enabler 
I wouldve went for it if i had half a brain to know
turn on equipped
Like it just
idk why i didnt before but today im like "wait...i could learn shit from a discord" XD
If you were referring to what I was saying, I was suggesting to throw your matches for the 1/2 exp and merit
man early game really is a struggle
Facts
Yeah, I've done it 4 times now
I just go for "oo theyre hot ill roll for them"
so for now its best if u can limit break more of those ships like sandy
and Juneau
and also buy helena from guild shop like i said before
san diego?
useful trick u should know early game is that when u are losing a fight you can pause the battle and back out to essentially reset the fight
yes san diego
and jeanu?
whos that
her healing skill is incredibly useful at keeping your fleet alive
not really just her specifically
She need to die first to enabler your fleet
ill slap her in the dorm then to lvl up
also what server do u play on
sandy
depending on which u can cop yourself a strong ship in medal exchange
ah idk what ships are in rotation on sandy u need to check yourself
enterprise or illustrous i could get rn
did u buy the other ship already
enterprise is the better one of those two and a strong early ship
ye
how many medals do u have currently tho
ah yea just keep em for now then
Sure? I can jus retire some stuff
so with your current roster atm u can assemble smth like lutzow saratoga hood sandy belfast jneau
but you really need to get their limit breaks and levels up
their performance will drastically increase
eventually u wanna transition to using helena after shes raised
but this early on in the game dont stress out too much over pvp
just pick fights u can win and refresh when needed
helena is where?
in guild store under elite ship
tap store button and scroll to the left
right next to merit shop
gotcha,i grabbed her
okie
Just got back on, am not a pvp expert anyways, just some bits of info that I have
Eventually i wanna make a great iron blood team once i do all this research stufff
if you need additional help you can check the resources in the pins or send a message to my secretary Carlos
carlos is a funny guy
thank u so much btw!
yeah no problem
salty used helping hand


is the competition on ranks basically the person that sandsandbaggedbagged the most player wins??
yes better player wins
it's also a competition of who has the best time zone and ISP 
ISP?
too much free time contest
Internet Service Provider
Jumping manjuu into overcap is a true combo at any %
that's fxxking truth lol
Sounds like skill issue
the real pvp battle is with your internet
Only if you want to fight it
fr
the amount of times i have overcapped because isp decides to go out before reset

after few times of roll and dc? 

the real struggle is when they drop a patch 5 minutes before reset
has never happened
I just saw my shimakaze shoot her 2 preloaded torp (she's using the single fire torp) and instant kill the enemy vanguard
tea torp can do that yea
average shimakaze activities
also another round she fired her torp and then all of those torp just missed the vanguard and slowly went towards the enemy new jersey
new jersey died
tea torp is funny
Reject Teatorp, be a Mag Quint enjoyer 
enjoy shooting at anchorage
just use juneau lmao
ppl who +13 rainbow quint are coping
cope

I know this is a very outdated PvP fleet, how would you guys change it?
I have every PR ship maxed out except for PR3 of which I only have Drake maxed.
That kinda kills the whole fleet 😅. Is there a way to keep the IJN fleet and change a ship or two without changing everything?
battles will be a bit slower but its a top 3 meta fleet and enough for anything
hakuryuu is not good in pvp
Alright
you posted double though
TIL
it did? Wacky
If ulrich was ded by the time of the 4th screenshot, there was a chance that I could've won
Maybe opponent Enty too
nice D
Looks like a skill issue
Mafia though? Nah not a chance
you could have just "leave" so you can avoid the lost
i know
Too fast
It ended too fast for me to react
Was preparing for a special event IRL too
ahh, if it helps you could equip a ship with manjuu so you can have the window to leave
@untold crater any tips for your fellow Akaga user?
+
+
= 
indep/impero is the obvious choice
Manjuu Indep is new meta??
are there any "pvp auxiliaries"?
U mean wnt and frontier medal?
always has been
Check pins for pvp equipment
Manjuu Indep😂
shanryu my sensei 
Holy shit it's my boy Shanjuu 


Holy shit is that the real shanju
enough for me to get rank 1 with 9 attempts??
yes
dont push for it
yea be patient
ik, the more sandbagging i do the more points right??
yep
I got lucky and sandbagged 4 ppl on my 5 attempts per reset
damn u could be rank 1
L'Indomptable good?
Paired with Entea

Amagi player 
is she based? yes or of couse

warspite kinda bad
... in pve?
no nj?

Enty is to strong
Messed up, missed 5 attempts from these last resets 😭

Welcome to the dead season club
is akaga a good pvp method for those unlucky?
There’s a resident akaga shill in this channel they might know more
@untold crater 
I wouldn't use it unless your preload is weak
But it's still a good auxiliary if you don't use its effect on an off-flag ship
So it's good to +13 it either way
does seydlitz count as a "weak" preload 
ik it's technically not a proper preload but still
Do you have Shimakaze as well?
nope
Yeah, I'd probably use WNT then
just use wnt on an off flag
the hit/eva combo is too good to give up
i rate wnt higher than flat stat increase on cv like steam cata
can a BB carry wnt? or do I should I always keep it on a cv
vv can carry wnt
what about a non-mafia triple BB comp
say, nj/vg/seydlitz
It can work
But requires you to win VG fight
Idk why you want to use seydlitz tbh
Using Hiryuu is just better
idk I tried it with both hiryuu and aquila before, both seemed pretty underwhelming
seydlitz is the german ranch’s new tech
seydlitz gives me both preload and stall
this was a pretty hard def fleet for some reason
so seems like 
Huh.. 
what does leipzig do
Speed and invincibility
I have no +13 planes, tho idk how much of a difference that is making
interesting

Only used with seydlitz tho
aight bois does this look right
beaver on aquila is a placeholder, just pretend it's wnt 
wnt on aquila
that looks ok
i would use beaver on vang
but white shell is ok
can go manjuu beaver/rudder on ancho i guess lol
should I post my frontline gear too, just in case 

Swap VG and NJ HPFCRs
despite what kota todo may tell you
Use Shima over agir, if you don't have show dock
dont use agir there
Non EN mfs living rent free in ya head bro 
tanky in pve does not equal tanky in pvp
triple preload 

budget quyet
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