pvp

[pseudo copper]

Retire

Worked for Borgar

[flat veldt]

But I'm already retired

[tall nimbus]

retire harder

[sharp snow]

How does dmg increase% stack with dmg reduction?

Additive to cancel off or multiplicative

[keen silo]

[sharp snow]

It's pertinent because bbs/cvs start with a dmg reduction debuff... If it's additive bonus dmg% buffs are more powerful in pvp

Like off flag uvh in pvp. The shells practically do nothing after all the dmg reduction debuffs

[candid sluice]

for the most part skills stack additively

[dapper stone]

So does uvh suck in pvp?

Or barrage still good

[untold crater]

Usable

Better options tho

[fleet laurel]

what best AA gun for shima in exe?

[keen silo]

Staag

[cinder wolf]

guys hms pvp meta???

[untold crater]

Sorry to tell you but DoY (Retrofit) is a PvE ship

[cinder wolf]

10% perma dmg amp sounds ok even for pvp tho

[candid sluice]

Better than ulrich that’s for sure lmao

[tall nimbus]

Better than fdg that's for sure lmao

[cinder wolf]

back to torps memeing

[rustic bridge]

Ok for pvp

[untold crater]

Maybe

[calm mica]

New meta is here

[untold crater]

-- NO DATA --

is meta

[calm mica]

Yep, (no DATA) is the new meta

[untold crater]

player -- NO DATA -- will rank 1 now?

[calm mica]

10% buff to Shima's damage and 18% buff to NJ's damage on top of UR stats can't be overlooked. Usually skeptical about new URs but I'm convinced just looking at her skills

[untold crater]

UR STATS?

doesnt she have lowest FP of UR BBs?

[calm mica]

I doubt 5% missing FP is a big deal compared to buffing all 3 URs in the fleet

But if you're worried about it that much, you can swap her DD gun for a CL one

[untold crater]

DoY (Retrofit)

[harsh knot]

I think I will give up PvP atm, I'm sick of NJ and Shima

[tepid kettle]

bully low commanders are fun in exercise but its so bored

[untold crater]

just win its easy

[cinder wolf]

manju nj letsgo

[late heath]

Just don’t lose

[calm mica]

Yeah, because Vanguard shoots faster than NJ, if there wasn't enough reason to use manjuu NJ before, there is now

Though I'm sure a certain someone will still find a complaint

[candid sluice]

cmon man didnt i already tell u we dont use that phase here

[keen silo]

m*njuu

[calm mica]

(no DATA) NJ

[trail temple]

Aoste will send us all to re-education camps if he finds out that we are praising Famine's heresy of Manjuu NJ

[keen silo]

what if i told u i lived in a reeducation camp

[trail temple]

Then we might be neighbours soon

[late heath]

What if you’re already neighbor

[oblique silo]

Manju NJ

[royal beacon]

manju nj seyd hiryuu

[neon bronze]

doing pvp rn i pray that my list isn't filled with mafia defense fleets 💀

[candid sluice]

doing pvp i pray my list is all mafia

[keen silo]

[flat veldt]

Mafia fleet?
Seyd fleet?

[uncut agate]

Lexi is out of loop probably, never seen a single decent Seydlitz stall fleet

[candid sluice]

🐌

[keen silo]

aldarn’s fleet

[uncut agate]

he wasn't using that last season and I haven't encountered him this season

[sand prism]

Did i just saw manjuu NJ

🤮

[keen silo]

he just swapped

[uncut agate]

[light crystal]

VG/NJ + Either FDG or AQL. And Jervis + either combo of Ancho, Shima, Duca, YKKZ, Noshiro and Juneau. I think could be viable. The main concern would be slow kill times, as opposed to using the standard Mafia/Shima comp, so bagging would be difficult.

I just wanna use Jervis though

[late heath]

Then use her

[candid sluice]

are you still coping jervis

[calm mica]

Use full J vanguard Jervelin/Jervis/Jerno

[cinder wolf]

jervis bad

[light crystal]

[neon bronze]

no fucking way

personal best attempt v.2

[cinder wolf]

[neon bronze]

amagi server

[candid sluice]

Good now keep doing your tickets

[merry oar]

Does vanguard has any place on changing the pvp meta??

[keen silo]

shes not as good as nj

but she should be very good still

[spring bobcat]

Maybe but she is really good for clearing with the 10% bonus damage

[steel coral]

pve ship

[candid sluice]

Might have a place in some fleet but won’t be new meta

[untold crater]

she will be META

meta fights

[keen silo]

[royal beacon]

that NJ almost kill me in the last second

[cinder wolf]

so lucky

[dry socket]

just saw a french fleet with some

50kph vanguard

[untold crater]

hacked hp VG like that 70k hp enty?

[dry socket]

not hp

like

[untold crater]

oh

[dry socket]

mad fast

[untold crater]

speed

50kph vanguard, not the ship im DUMB

i knew this would confuse me

[tall nimbus]

[dry socket]

[keen silo]

@tall nimbus this you?

[merry oar]

Should i use double tenrai?? Or double wyvern on shinano??

Or maybe wyvern + double tenrai??

[keen silo]

2 wyvern

[untold crater]

double wyvern tenrai

[candid sluice]

triple wyvern if you can

[untold crater]

make it 5 wyern on rikka

[dry socket]

you thought it was a french vanguard??

duke of paris

[untold crater]

i thought french fleet + VG

[distant void]

Hello, how's the PvP going?

[royal beacon]

Normal

[uncut agate]

It's gone stale

pins have the current meta teams, mafia being the best

[rich escarp]

I remember those days...

[untold crater]

glad they're gone

[rich escarp]

my defensive fleet is still set to that actually

[calm mica]

What do you mean stale? We got a whole new piece of equipment that improves your pvp just the other day /s

[candid sluice]

plus we got a whole new destroyer in jarbus

truly new meta

[calm mica]

Does she have a 2nd preload?

[candid sluice]

no but she synergizes well with hms

[calm mica]

oof

[candid sluice]

she has prelod torps tho which is very epic pogger moment

[calm mica]

Basically she's discount Shimakaze

[cinder wolf]

jerbus good?

[keen silo]

shes a toyota and shimakaze is a ferrari

[candid sluice]

more like shes a horse drawn carriage

[steady zephyr]

How much more I need to reach next rank ?

[calm mica]

Click on the button that says "Rules" and it'll tell you about the ones past 850

[steady zephyr]

Thanks

[calm mica]

No problem. More detailed information on pvp season points is in the pins too

[steady zephyr]

Oh I missed 5 PvP battles lol struck at 1300

[fallow granite]

hmmmmmm

since we have this new table aux

wait I haven't even checked what it does

[river marsh]

is aotn still possible if you missed a single battle?

[fallow granite]

heard it's something like a better fcr

[calm mica]

Yeah, it's already an upgrade even at +10 compared to a +13 gold one

[uncut agate]

quite easily

[light crystal]

barely an inconvenience

[distant void]

Oh I see

[flint python]

yep unless you lose to unultra

[keen silo]

[sour oasis]

If you've been fighting opponents at higher rank the entire time, on Amagi you can miss ten. Just be awake during the minutes +5 ticket refresh arrives and you have a decent chance of rushing to AotN.

[languid badge]

Guys, I've been struck with the greatest idea for pvp. How about we vote to rename boring and unfair Exercise mode to brand new and honest New Jersey mode? Besides the name the main gimmick of it would be playing Crowd laughing sound effect every time you set fleet without Jersey in it. How's that for an idea? That'll defenetly fix all the balance issues Exercise mode currently have.

[cinder wolf]

joke in #pvp?

[keen silo]

[languid badge]

@cinder wolf is it though?

Theoreticaly, if I lvl up every bb to 120 to get bonus for Stat can maxed oathed Champagne one shot oathed NJ?

[candid sluice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/697475157739962509/902144573256663110/nj_get_real_.gif

who needs bb when u can use dd

[keen silo]

fleet tech applies in pvp?

[tall nimbus]

[languid badge]

30 ships are giving me 39 fp like 10+ fire control radar.

[cinder wolf]

[languid badge]

@candid sluice I have a big gun complex

[candid sluice]

i can tell

[flint python]

fleet tech works in pvp now?

new update?

[uncut agate]

Fleet tech doesn't apply in PvP no

[candid sluice]

where my +10 rld bb tecc?

[keen silo]

+15 please?

[languid badge]

I'm ded. I hate pvp even more. Why isn't it affected with fleet tech? What's the point in it then?

[keen silo]

to get bulin

[ancient skiff]

Gold plate flex

[flint python]

there is no "pvp"

[keen silo]

player versus nj

pvn

[candid sluice]

the pvp portion is fighting your sleep schedule

[keen silo]

or just sleep early and get top 10

or fuck ur sleep and get top 1

the choice is yours

[languid badge]

What's the most beneficial time zone for pvp?

[keen silo]

Europe i guess

[untold crater]

LA

[keen silo]

sea is the worst

unironically

[flint python]

as long as it doesn't cuck your sleep

[candid sluice]

new zealand

[cinder wolf]

just adjust your sleep with pvp reset 👍

[keen silo]

no thats cringe

[untold crater]

Why ask? You gonna move there for pvp?

[keen silo]

i want to sleep at 12 am

[languid badge]

No@untold crater . I'll just download VPN

[keen silo]

[uncut agate]

[flint python]

lmao

[keen silo]

holy fuck that was funny

[cinder wolf]

vpn changes the time

[uncut agate]

Lol

[cinder wolf]

basically time machine

[keen silo]

[flint python]

lemme see if I can go back in time if I use vpn

[languid badge]

It have to be paid version

[candid sluice]

just adjust your clock on the phone easy time warp

[cinder wolf]

damn im f2p

[languid badge]

@candid sluice that better because it's free

[keen silo]

o no

[candid sluice]

do i have to use nord vpn

[languid badge]

You got the code for that sweet discount?@candid sluice

[flint python]

rework pvp when

[candid sluice]

use code SaltyArrow for 60% off your first 3 months

[keen silo]

thank you salty

I appreciate it

[languid badge]

I need only 3 things in this game. Reworked pvp. Jerseys NERF More French ships

[candid sluice]

youre better off wishing for a unicorn

[keen silo]

you should farm 4-1 for unicorns

or buy them from the guild shop

[light crystal]

[languid badge]

Got her already even retrofitted her. Not gonna use though. I have Perseus

[light crystal]

[candid sluice]

yeah nothing can beat the persussy

[keen silo]

[languid badge]

Right,You can't beat crippled medic girls@candid sluice

[flint python]

rainbow whiteshell when? so Quyet can finally show his secrets

[keen silo]

nah we still wont know what it does

[languid badge]

Why Perseus not dealing dmg in pvp? What plane load she have? 1/1×2?

[keen silo]

its like

the biggest mystery of the 21st century

[candid sluice]

your planes probably suck

[untold crater]

D2 drop unicorn and seahornet (for persussy)

[keen silo]

d2 drops uni? i havent gotten her to drop in 15k oil

aids

[untold crater]

idk

i made that up

[languid badge]

@candid sluice as said before it's more like a skill issue

[candid sluice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/870419801795874816/896417550638923816/skill_issue_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[untold crater]

Yeah she does actually

[keen silo]

[light crystal]

UniKai's OK. AVI is bellow average, and 3 TB Slot at 135%, but hey, preload + wyvern
Chise is also 3 TB, higher AVI, and at 130% TB Eff.

UniKai gets a pass in that she's mainly support/healer. Good that she can do DPS in PvE now tho

[cinder wolf]

unikai pvp meta?

[untold crater]

lets say perseus and unikai were sinking and you could only save one

who would you save?

or

[light crystal]

Both.

[cinder wolf]

quit the sortie and reset

[untold crater]

[light crystal]

Kincora and imouto? Save both.

[candid sluice]

trolley problem

[untold crater]

light carrier problem

[keen silo]

moral dillemas should be the real pvp of azur lane

who agrees?

[untold crater]

AL pvp skill should be determined by math

how fast can a 457 NJ fire with dead VGs?

[keen silo]

[untold crater]

i would lose this

[keen silo]

once every 69 seconds

[languid badge]

I would retire Jersey if all the Jerseys were retired at the same time

[untold crater]

and then wha

complain about the next best ship?

[languid badge]

Eternal happiness @untold crater.

[candid sluice]

we should all retire our persussys to keep the integrity of this game

[keen silo]

unultra has to make the first move

[cinder wolf]

bring back akaga meta

[keen silo]

@untold crater

[candid sluice]

@languid badge this you?

[languid badge]

Ye

[untold crater]

dont ask for akaga meta rumi

[keen silo]

ur based

[untold crater]

its here

[candid sluice]

thats pretty fast response time for mods

[untold crater]

hope they dont add fleet tech

[cinder wolf]

upvoted

[untold crater]

more reasons for casuals to complain

[keen silo]

upvoted i want to bully with my maxed backline tech

[candid sluice]

imagine getting gatekeeped by cog chip

[languid badge]

I decided to 120lvl all the BBs and CA/Cls. Don't want it go to waste

[candid sluice]

dont worry u still have the entirety of pve

[cinder wolf]

fleet tech active, no modifier bonuses, no reset pvp letsgoo

[keen silo]

not like casuals play pvp anyways

[languid badge]

Pve is done. It's on auto same result is boring. Pvp have the thrill. Imagine wastjng 3 hours of resets to die of internet lag that 3 manju jumping thing

[candid sluice]

i feel u bro

[untold crater]

sea moment

[keen silo]

non-singaporean sea moment

[untold crater]

my fav part is when you beat enemy and get [Network Connection Lost]

[flint python]

be the ultimate tryhard and chase all leaderboard

[candid sluice]

the only thing uniting sea is our collective hatred towards shit wifi

[untold crater]

and have to relog and fight again

[keen silo]

asean more like

we hate shit wifi

[candid sluice]

wait i thought u still get the win when u disconnect

[languid badge]

You get invalid imput error

[keen silo]

the wifi in my room is 10mb/s

[flint python]

[untold crater]

fake SEA player

how to out yourself

101

[flint python]

when that shitty internet slaps you last minute rush

[candid sluice]

i def got the win after disconnecting before

[untold crater]

disconnect before the win

when battle over

it send you to menu

[keen silo]

need to get multiple wifi in the house

if one fails still got backup

[candid sluice]

oh i just tap reconnect

[untold crater]

nah

[calm mica]

wtf what if this is how unultra always wins. The time machine vpn

[flat veldt]

Literally can't lose if you just use VPN to undo all your losses

[cinder wolf]

found the guy

[untold crater]

half based half not based

[flat veldt]

Where's our love child that you promised?

[untold crater]

toastyRumi when?

[cinder wolf]

[untold crater]

requirements for love child is love

[flat veldt]

I'm pretty sure Rumi loves me... Right?

[cinder wolf]

toast me

[flat veldt]

[steel coral]

Rumi harem?

[untold crater]

found out some stuff about that guy

apparently its just his name translated from viet

[steel coral]

likely story

[untold crater]

imagine being named YukanaRumi IRL holy

[steel coral]

These nerds making me waste all my refreshes

[untold crater]

Worth it

[keen silo]

[calm mica]

Looks like skill issue

[cinder wolf]

been using unultra build, rngr is easy

[calm mica]

I'm using ships that don't die. Ranger can proc as much as she wants, can't kill a ship that doesn't die

[cinder wolf]

my nj manju hard countering ranger yeah

[keen silo]

[pearl hearth]

so do saved equipment stay ? or do i have to requip them everytime ?

[cinder wolf]

gears refreshed overtime

[candid sluice]

on defense the game checks every 30min if u updated your fleet and equips

but on attack u gotta equip beforehand

[pearl hearth]

well thats annoying

after all this time of playing .. i finally decided hey .. lemme try hard pvp .. but having heard that .. i cba

[cinder wolf]

def fleet has nothing to do with your pacing in pvp tho

rather it helps you climb the leaderboard with weaker def fleet

[pearl hearth]

well according to the pinned mafia fleet equipment, i would have to swap gears for all 6 ships every time i attack .. 3 times a day so thats too much for a lazy person like myself

[keen silo]

[uncut agate]

... don't use ideal gear then, i use pve gear without problems

[pearl hearth]

yes

[cinder wolf]

dont need to change gear cus CV dominated pve anyway

[uncut agate]

well, it's a coincidence my pve gear is mostly similar to the mafia gear in pins

[candid sluice]

just do all your attacks in one go

[calm mica]

Just do it

[pearl hearth]

[light crystal]

Might as well use UniKAi over Ranger

[steel coral]

actually yeah

use uni instead of ranger

[untold crater]

Less refreshes need

And easier battles

[flat veldt]

@steel coral what's your WR against this fleet?

[steel coral]

wouldn't know

[untold crater]

0%

[steel coral]

that's an auto refresh for me

[untold crater]

Imagine your shipfu was NJ

How many refreshes would you need

[steel coral]

too many

[west vapor]

Depression

[cinder wolf]

so is hms meta yet?

[untold crater]

For META fights maybe

[candid sluice]

Wait till we finish raising our jarbusses

[calm mica]

We're raising Jarbussy?

[sour oasis]

End game of PvP is just making friends with everyone in top 100

[untold crater]

SO TRUEEEEEEEEE

[last swan]

Is mafia meta end yet?

[candid sluice]

check back once yamato comes out

[last swan]

You mean PR5?

[candid sluice]

does pr5 have a preload ijn carrier?

[keen silo]

yes

shinano (retrofit)

[last swan]

Yamato is a CV?

[candid sluice]

[dry socket]

nagato retrofit

[north lark]

Does anyone here know if you want either AP guns or HE guns on your BB carry in PvP? Generally speaking assuming I’m too lazy to look at the enemy team to see what to run because I’m new and can’t recognize the ships too well.

[keen silo]

it depends on what team you are using

[north lark]

Are light armor types even that common in PvP?

[keen silo]

i already answer u twice in gph

[north lark]

The it depends doesn’t really help tho…

[north lark]

Lutzow flag and Seydlitz off flag

The other ship is a CV

[candid sluice]

Generally u want to use 457 which happens to be a ap gun

But generally AP > he

[calm mica]

Yeah, usually the team compositions will go NJ>AP and preload>HE, if you're running without a preload, you just go double AP

[sudden talon]

Has anyone run NJ/Aquila/VG backline?

[last swan]

I dont have the 3 Italians, what should I do?

[royal beacon]

Seyd Perseus could work for the preload

[last swan]

[candid sluice]

Consult the guide

Oh wait it’s not in this channel yet

[last swan]

[candid sluice]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BewmBsf4EWKAf_UwYax05c7ksL51y6sjs96pIwD73Jc/edit?usp=sharing

It’s still wip but the fleets are there

[light crystal]

[cinder wolf]

[mellow charm]

[cunning jay]

So, does the rainbow fcr change anything?

[untold crater]

The meta? No

Just slap it on NJ and call it a day

[cunning jay]

good to know

[untold crater]

Changes your FP substantially tho

[cunning jay]

i know, it's a rainbow gear after all, the stat stick is bigger

[rustic bridge]

what where next good for pvp

[untold crater]

Sanrui if you dev30 her

[rustic bridge]

Is dev 20

No Lust on pr1 res

[candid sluice]

raise your torpers or assmama when d30

[dapper stone]

q: why rocketplane on chise and why only +7 ägir gun?

[keen silo]

+7 was error, rocketplane for extra damage at start

[cinder wolf]

rocket good?

[candid sluice]

the +7 was an accident carried over when i copied a fleet with shimakaze in the same position

dont mind it

[dapper stone]

kk

I thought it'd be for some syncing timing or so 😄

[mental temple]

Unicorn Kai seems to be pretty great. For preloads though, would Chise be fairly better?

[candid sluice]

she lacks the damage output that the other preload carriers have

[mental temple]

Ah, fair enough

[candid sluice]

missing that tenrai slot really hurts her dmg output

and her heals are pretty much useless

youre better off using persussy for burst preload dmg at that point

[mental temple]

Lmao
Alrighty, will do then

[rustic bridge]

Torpers

[untold crater]

Rocket in pvp

[rustic bridge]

I use Messerschmitt in pvp

[untold crater]

You are a special player

A rare breed

[rustic bridge]

fast reloud on cvs

Good air defens

I need good aa Planes

[sour oasis]

Messer's are fast So you want the research-only fighters like the Bearcat or Sea Hornet. Unless you're going full USN and use Thach Brewsters and Skyrockets.

[young storm]

how come I see yamashiro meta so much in pvp? I thought shes not rly that good, Or is good specifically at pvp?

[candid sluice]

she is not

how high are you on the ladder

[young storm]

7658

[calm mica]

Seems like it's just a coincidence

[candid sluice]

yeah youre on low ladder youre gonna see a lotta wild fleets down there

[fallow granite]

I finally got that single fire torpedo for this pvp

my fleet will be even better

now all I need is the accuracy aa gun

[untold crater]

yea

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

stagg on shima is just luxury, if you get your hand on stagg put on bbs first

[keen silo]

that current aa gun is good enough imo

[cinder wolf]

dds naturally have high accuracy, what is a +10 for theirs 200+ acc

[royal beacon]

Maximizing

[cinder wolf]

luxury kinda minmaxing

[keen silo]

it not super important

still ez to win fight without

[untold crater]

just remember this when you shima miss torp

+10 accuracy is the difference between life and death

[keen silo]

ok but

reset button

pvp with reset is too ez

[candid sluice]

pvp can eva stack u use all the hit u can get

[cinder wolf]

yeah anyway your prio for staag is backline > frontline

later when you have 1 full page of staag then who cares who using

[candid sluice]

no shit

[cinder wolf]

apparently not as obvious for some

[candid sluice]

where

[cinder wolf]

👀

[dapper stone]

admiralty board good aux?

[candid sluice]

straight upgrade to hpfcr yes

[sour oasis]

And luck that the follow-up single line hits.

[fallow granite]

I only have one which is on nj

[cinder wolf]

yeah, bb gets prio for staag if you have limited amount

[uncut agate]

craft more staags

[dapper stone]

Which gun on richy? dont have rainbow

or seydlitz/uvh/fdg/ägir maybe better?

[untold crater]

That first one or FdG over chise

[steady zephyr]

Can this protect me from 3 preloads in PvP ?

Entire fleet not just essex

[untold crater]

No

[tall nimbus]

[untold crater]

But anchorage will

[cinder wolf]

essex hard counter cv preload

[steady zephyr]

Nvm I just did some stuff and it cleared

[coral wren]

on pvp whats the best gear to pair up the new rainbow fire control?

the white shell or the black shell?

[untold crater]

white shell always

[coral wren]

ty

[cinder wolf]

or manju

[fallow granite]

right I only have a single staag

[mellow charm]

gear lab is a good friend

[candid sluice]

that skill doesnt work against crash dmg so it doesnt work as well as expected

and yea anchovy just does a better job

[last swan]

Is NJ-Percy-Warkai still work?

[candid sluice]

as long as unultra exists it will work

[untold crater]

Yes

[red vigil]

My pvp fleet im gonna add vanguard in the future to replace ulrich and I can get that Royal Navy buff from jervis and vanguard since I need 3 Royal Navy ships in my fleet for the buff to take effect

[candid sluice]

Jarbus new meta??

[untold crater]

Yes

[light crystal]

❗

[cinder wolf]

evasion dd main tank

[elder gull]

is chapayev, tashkent and perseus with bf 109g and wyvern an ok attempt to destroy shimakaze?

[candid sluice]

Why do u need to dedicate that many ships for shima

[uncut agate]

shima drops two nukes right at the start, can't kill her before that anyway

[light crystal]

Isn't it 15 torps?

[elder gull]

i just need to make front survive, so enemy backline will focus my frontline ships and my backline will survive and destroy enemy backline.

[sour oasis]

I wonder if Anchorage makes Eldridge more viable

[light crystal]

Just use VV/Duca, or Noshiro/Ancho or Juneau

Should counter most of the torp threat

[uncut agate]

i'm counting one wave of torps as one nuke

[light crystal]

Oh yea

If u hate Shima, get ready for Kitakami

I say she's likely to be the next UR IJN

[elder gull]

i created account in february. I don't have those ships

[light crystal]

Juneau and Ancho are readily available

[elder gull]

pr4 has no catchup as pr 1-3

[light crystal]

Fun times ahead this September in peeveepee.

[keen silo]

:AosteCopium:

[candid sluice]

still gonna have shit spread lmao

would be pretty boring if they just made a shima powercreep

[light crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

What's better than one Shima? Two of them at once

[candid sluice]

still piss boring

[light crystal]

Make torp soup.

Win every time

Perfect for the sandbagger looking to sandbag till last second

[calm mica]

and then people complain. then they make a 2nd anchorage that goes invincible and takes nothing from torps

[uncut agate]

people are weak, let them complain

[candid sluice]

then devs release a ship that mitigates all dmg for the first 5secs of the match lmao

[worldly hollow]

[untold crater]

then devs add a ship that does 400% dmg on offense only

[cinder wolf]

jarbes will dodge all of those ez

[sour oasis]

Research ship. Available. ||At least it's not like hunting for Ägir or Haku||

[rustic bridge]

2cvs 1 bb or 2 bbs 1 cv use

[cinder wolf]

either works

[rustic bridge]

i hope jb make a good jb

[rustic bridge]

Win possible

[untold crater]

need maybe 1 or 2 resets but yes

possible

[rustic bridge]

Resets

Game New start

bisco op

[sour oasis]

You lost to an Edgy Mom

[mellow charm]

uninstall game to be safe

[light crystal]

[candid sluice]

[sour oasis]

You will finally be free

[onyx niche]

why is it that my NJ never targets the enemy NJ, but the enemy NJ always targets my NJ

is it just position

[late heath]

You didn’t love her enough

[candid sluice]

Do u put her on top or bottom

[late heath]

Top

[candid sluice]

I’m more of a top person myself

[trail temple]

NJ likes being on top

[steel coral]

I could go either way

[trail temple]

Seems to not take as much damage

[steel coral]

yeah you can take a real pounding being on the bottom

[sour oasis]

Power bottom

[keen silo]

sheesh

[sour oasis]

By default don't battleships fire from the top down? Warspite sniping diagonally being the bigger exception? (There's some RNG involved too. Mostly with torpedoes.)

[trail temple]

Middle gets it the worse, then bottom gets a little less and top is usually pain free

[sour oasis]

But they're in the water; none of that should matter ||unless they drown||

[calm mica]

It depends on if the enemy team has a carrier (which they usually do). Wyvern torpedoes will naturally hit middle and bottom position only

[cinder wolf]

converging tb is hard counter for top nj

[candid sluice]

cringe tb

[fallow granite]

one of enemy ship instantly dropped to this level due to the single fire torp

[sage ermine]

lol

[rustic bridge]

Hipper or hipper muse

[cinder wolf]

muse

[calm mica]

why not both

[wheat torrent]

can i ask pvp gear question here?

[mellow charm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/864969051163066409/866361700248846346/Yespee.gif

[untold crater]

idk, can you?

[calm mica]

As long as it's not about the 8 second invincibility item and who it should go on

That one's a sensitive topic

[steel coral]

it obviously goes on hiryuu

[untold crater]

Seydlitz

[candid sluice]

i use it on enterpris

[untold crater]

i saw once on vestal

gg for me

[sour oasis]

But are you using 🎤?

[swift frost]

Cung de~

[untold crater]

[keen silo]

omg its migume

thank you for moving @swift frost

you just gave someone a bonus

[broken ferry]

[flat veldt]

Shoutouts to this for slapping pearls on

[calm mica]

bulins should full heal if they have pearl on

[coral wren]

bulins are wonderful

[crude mortar]

@untold crater

https://tenor.com/view/batman-interesting-gif-11282418

[candid sluice]

Anyone have famines discord? I wanna talk to him

[mellow charm]

[untold crater]

Sounds like fun

[neon bronze]

quit pvp

[pseudo copper]

[frosty goblet]

[ancient skiff]

[neon bronze]

nvm i'm getting those bulins

welcome back pvp

[untold crater]

[neon bronze]

just being casual though

[candid sluice]

casul player best player

[neon bronze]

still nakaga because i don't have any other viable pvp comp

[keen silo]

use Teatime terrors/unultra fleet

[neon bronze]

yeah but that needs aNew Jersey which i do not have

[keen silo]

just use vanguard

[neon bronze]

not yet maxed

so a variant of unultra's comp with vanguard instead of nj?

[keen silo]

guess that can work

[cinder wolf]

crash/torps meme vangs

[neon bronze]

now there's the problem of not having anchorage maybe i should slap JDA

alternatively i also use either ayanami or yuudachi instead

[cinder wolf]

just build ancho, not that hard, even low dev is viable

[neon bronze]

pr2 research ongoing, may take some time

[sour oasis]

Not really. You still need to level up her skills.

[cinder wolf]

how is that hard

[keen silo]

that takes like 1-2 weeks at most

wait cant use that emote here

[neon bronze]

wonder if vanguard's a worse version of NJ pvp-wise

[cinder wolf]

the most tedious part probably grinding the exp, then its all good
with event freebies you can dev her to like dev10? where she got her preload

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

yeah wont be nj lvl for pvp, she's pve ship in design

[neon bronze]

well highass reload + georgia gun/champy gun + table/hsfcr could do it

[cinder wolf]

way less since you only need her blue skill for pvp, 5days top with rainbow blue books

[keen silo]

true

rest is dmg addon

[crisp dune]

Who is the fastest ship that have ha shortest reload Time( no equiptment)

[candid sluice]

do preload ships count?

[cinder wolf]

jerbus under QE fastest ship alive

[safe meteor]

hows Vanguard as a pvp ship?

[cinder wolf]

she works with jerbuz so thats a plus

[candid sluice]

viable pick for triple bb fleet

[safe meteor]

eeh, Triple BB is a meme

but what about 2 BB + Carrier? would she be better than VV?

[untold crater]

better? no but usable

[safe meteor]

ok

[keen silo]

triple bb is actually kinda decent

[cinder wolf]

usable but kinda cringe

[rustic bridge]

Futa or hipper what is a better tank

[candid sluice]

i think futas are great tanks

[jolly lichen]

[river marsh]

there's a slim chance that i can get aotn

if i rush next pvp reset

i can get aotn

2150 points rn

[untold crater]

assuming the whole top 10 wont be flooded by then

[river marsh]

yea

[untold crater]

you're better off trying in 26h

[river marsh]

i'll still try

i missed 4 attacks and lost 2

i could've been aotn rn

[sour oasis]

Didn't you hear?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-KJPP7GkuPU

[candid sluice]

losing matches in 2022? cringe

[river marsh]

[flat veldt]

Is it time?

[untold crater]

It's Morphin time

[candid sluice]

its... movin time??

[sleek heron]

i prefer morphine time

[keen silo]

AOTN TIME???????

[candid sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/morbius-gif-25461795

[candid sluice]

Are you proud of me mom?

[late heath]

No

You haven’t married Kashino

[candid sluice]

go arrange our marriage then

[flat veldt]

Arranged marriage in 2022?

[cinder wolf]

aotn uoooohh

[keen silo]

[sudden talon]

If you ain't first you're last

[harsh knot]

No because you probably use NJ

[cinder wolf]

wrong channel bro

only serious pvp talk here

[fallen jewel]

my bad wrong chat

[queen hawk]

what rank should i try to be holding on to if i want to earn 2 gold bulin, 30k merit a month, is it possible to get as far as 3/month?

would grabbing and holding on to vice be enough?

[untold crater]

30k a month? Vice should good enough yeah just win all your 210 exercises

I get around 22k a season so 44k a month

[queen hawk]

is that aotm points?

is there a particular reason the sniper fleet nj has a tash gun over the 128sk? i'm fine with just straight up copying it, but i'd also like some insight as to why they chose to use it

is it the range?

[untold crater]

idk I don't use Tash gun anymore personally

Prefer the pompeo gun on NJ now due to angle

[untold crater]

Which is 128sk?

[queen hawk]

the ap kms d gun

[untold crater]

ah that one

[queen hawk]

yeah

[untold crater]

ppl just use tash because highest surface dps

but i recommend pompeo becasue you only fire vs light/medium

[uncut agate]

I use that kms ap gun on NJ because I'm too lazy to switch Tashkent and Pompeo guns from my DDs

[untold crater]

unless you're fighting some azuma with VH plating

it's a small upgrade from the KMS DD gun

[candid sluice]

aight lets see your aotn big boy

[untold crater]

admiral of the gravy

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

nj-less

[candid sluice]

what 0 nj does to a mf

[exotic badger]

Hey guys just wanna ask which shipgirls are great pvp. At least 1 backline and 1 vanguard recommendation

[flint python]

nj

[cinder wolf]

NJ and shimakaze

[flint python]

[candid sluice]

check the pins or consult the guide

[river marsh]

i will definitely not miss and lose attacks next season

i will hit aotn next season

[cinder wolf]

you can rush on next reset ez tho

[keen silo]

gl sir

[river marsh]

can rushing attacks in pvp still get you to aotn?

because managing to not overcap your attacks is hard

since resets are at 3 am and 9 am

daily reset is at 3 pm

[cinder wolf]

weekend anyway, go for it

[whole salmon]

Wdym? You don’t stay up to 4am every day to play pvp?

My sleep schedule is simple

I sleep from 3am to 7am, then again from 8am to 12pm

[flat veldt]

Have you tried changing your timezone with VPN?

[cinder wolf]

or just use vpn

[whole salmon]

It is split so it feels like crap

But you get enough hours per day

[river marsh]

[untold crater]

Split makes me sleep better

[whole salmon]

Tho just do it like this @river marsh

[river marsh]

[whole salmon]

On the ones where you have to sleep, finish to 5/10 tickets whenever you have to sleep

Then sandbags the other 2 resets

You can still reach AoTN

[candid sluice]

just do ur tickets right before ur gonna sleep lol

[river marsh]

30 points behind rank 10 rn

[candid sluice]

thats what i doand its free aotn

[river marsh]

still a chance

[candid sluice]

and if u soft bag week1 u can full rush week2 and still make aotn

thats what tad and the other le malin guy does

[river marsh]

[whole salmon]

End Screen AOTN is another story

But regular AOTN is very much possible

[river marsh]

what rank difference do you need to have for bonus points in pvp

i know +1 is like 30ish

[whole salmon]

It is point difference

Not rank difference

[river marsh]

yea

i mean point diff

[whole salmon]

35 point for +1, 71 for +2

108 for +3 but if you are that far behind on week 2 then your pace is clapped

[candid sluice]

check the pins

click on the message cus the pins cut off the pt diff

[river marsh]

so if you won against someone who's 35+ points above you, you get bonus points?

[candid sluice]

yes thats how it works

[river marsh]

[whole salmon]

Week 1 is hard to check the precise point difference

But week 2 then just check the top 100 leaderboard to make sure

[keen silo]

same just

do it like

empty to 0 before sleep so u skip 9am reset

[candid sluice]

week1 is just attacking whenever u see a significant rank increase on one of your players

[keen silo]

a lot of typical top 20 players in lexi do that, chien gosu lonewoof

many people all use that strat

[river marsh]

i do that

[keen silo]

Yea

then just soft bag and make sure u dont miss/lose excercises

[river marsh]

because waking up before 9

[whole salmon]

And I use the “stay up until 4am to play” strat @keen silo

[keen silo]

thats kinda cringe but ok

[whole salmon]

[keen silo]

u should be like me

move 3 hours early every long reset

[whole salmon]

I’ll try that eventually

Once I get my sleep schedule fixed

Cus it is currently clapped

[keen silo]

just sleep early

[whole salmon]

I can’t sleep early anymore

[keen silo]

t10 eos not hard if u dont overcap anyways

[whole salmon]

It is Lexington, no one really cares about actually playing

[candid sluice]

i always rush during long reset and still get top10 eos lol

given i dont overcap or some shit

[keen silo]

yeah

Yea I rush during long reset, firmly in t3 atm for baggers in server

[whole salmon]

There’s only like 18 people that actually play pvp

[keen silo]

it not a large issue as long as people move

[whole salmon]

And it has been the same 18 people

Every damn season

[keen silo]

thats actually true

[candid sluice]

actually more new names have been popping up in eos leaderboards past few seasons

[whole salmon]

Aside from that one season where idk a lot of people overcapped

[keen silo]

maybe for amagi lexi is mostly same people

[candid sluice]

i dont have their discord ids so cant talk to em

[whole salmon]

This isn’t really a balanced chart

[candid sluice]

thats lexi

[keen silo]

darkholme retired so -1

Rip

[candid sluice]

i cant speak for other servers

[keen silo]

Amagi has a lot of new ppl, i saw a few

[candid sluice]

but even then the newer faces wont have their names on the chart

cause they only have few top10 finishes

[river marsh]

if i had the 6 attacks i lost to overcap and losing i'd be rank 3 rn

[keen silo]

well u cant count like that

[candid sluice]

dude youre sounding like latias

[river marsh]

+10 per attack wdym

[keen silo]

Yea dont say that

it kinda cringe

[river marsh]

[candid sluice]

dont post cringe in this channel

[whole salmon]

Amagi’s chart

Not as unbalanced ig

[river marsh]

you're saying im cringe?

[keen silo]

thats more ppl than us

[river marsh]

[keen silo]

at least not washington/sandy @whole salmon

[candid sluice]

nomico furanzeska hiryu vini otr krito

[whole salmon]

Actually no, Amagi also only has 19 people that got EOS AOTN more than once

[candid sluice]

newer names u can see they have less numbers

[keen silo]

kirito bags? wtf

[candid sluice]

compare it to last years chart

[whole salmon]

Lexington has 18 people who has EOS AOTN more than once

[flat veldt]

[whole salmon]

So ig Amagi is more balanced

[candid sluice]

vini rushed last year

this season seems like hes doing a bit of bagging

same with furan

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

all names i remember as rushers last year are on the eos chart lol

[keen silo]

[river marsh]

what is the typical points of eos aotn

what range?

[whole salmon]

Sandy has 20, Washy has 21, Avrora has 18

Depending on the server

[river marsh]

amagi

[whole salmon]

But staying above 2580 is safe

[flat veldt]

Rumor says that top 3 in Amagi are ag*nts

[river marsh]

agents?

[whole salmon]

But Avrora server has the most number of players who reached AOTN more than 6 times so far

While other servers are more spread out

[keen silo]

2585 is usually safe top 7-8 in most servers

2090 up is like basically t4-5 depending on season

[whole salmon]

On some crappy season you can reach top 10 with like 2579

[keen silo]

when literally every bagger overcaps maybe

[candid sluice]

2590 is standard eos score

give or take 3 pts

[river marsh]

[keen silo]

[pseudo copper]

Time for me to unretire and make chart more balanced?

[keen silo]

let me play ur pvp

[pseudo copper]

You can have my acc when am dead

[keen silo]

bruh

[pseudo copper]

[candid sluice]

ill take over your position as guild master

[pseudo copper]

Sure

[keen silo]

[untold crater]

who is top 3

[candid sluice]

unultra unultra and unultra

[keen silo]

un, ul and tra.

[untold crater]

agent

[candid sluice]

in other words, agent U

[cinder wolf]

UwU

[keen silo]

uwultra

[sour oasis]

Alts. Alts everywhere.

[civic lily]

NJ, enty, unicorn solid back line?

rikka/kron good in pvp

?

[stuck mauve]

Honestly dont know much about pvp/synergies, I just know the good op units

but NJ, Aquila and Vanguard real good

Anchorage op

Shima as well and kron is good tanker

[civic lily]

Italian fleet/aquila abruzzi venetto with shimakaze a good team?

Juneau and anchorage too

[untold crater]

check pins

NJ/VV/Aquila/Anchorage/Shima/Duca

[crude mortar]

[untold crater]

no anchorage and juneau dies at perfect time

[steel coral]

Lvl 1 Juneau for perfect timing

[calm mica]

wait, which season did I miss top 10 EoS

[untold crater]

depends

envy gets the data 15s before reset so if you finish after 15s before reset then you wont be on there

@calm mica https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipO8hWd-mvWq1SrmNUOczLzqxd4wi5Urgtk0SfSUw4rbSAXbp7zrXYWjrcsMsUse1Q/photo/AF1QipN1NW5zuVYfY4iUj87oW5uZk4Y2fRyh9cezkG5k?key=N2FDLWtwNW5yU2pRdThrMjFVWWpFUDhjTFB5SVJB

41st

01-03-2022 - 01-17-22

[calm mica]

Yeah, I realized after I said that it was probably when I was sick at the start of the year

[untold crater]

meanwhile i just overcap

[calm mica]

Thanks

[untold crater]

[calm mica]

Yeah, I overcap because of being sick

[untold crater]

we are not the same

[candid sluice]

i overcapped while i was at ur moms house

[jolly lichen]

if you need to play house take it to DMs, thanks

[untold crater]

TRUE!

cringe rp in my pvp channel

[jolly lichen]

I want you to stop

[cinder wolf]

imagine not having envys lb in your cv

[steel coral]

unless you finish too late and he cucks you out of an eos

[untold crater]

whoever had that happen to them

[calm mica]

[untold crater]

binqiling Amagi.03.14.22 - 03.28.22(S6) was won by dronshi binqiling

[flat veldt]

we don't talk about that season here

[untold crater]

3 different winners according to who you ask

[flat veldt]

history is written by the victors

[untold crater]

or envy

[flat veldt]

but we all know who the true victor was

[steel coral]

yukana's yukikaze

[untold crater]

my yukikaze won bigly

huge

unreal victory

[flat veldt]

I would've won if I set my VPN to Hawaii timezone

[untold crater]

whenever i lose in pvp

[cinder wolf]

vpn strat just discovered recently

[untold crater]

i just wait until next season for +5 exer and use vpn to go to previous season

rewriting history

[cinder wolf]

idk maybe can ask ramzh

[untold crater]

[flat veldt]

hi NArd, you know I'm somewhat of a big AL strimmer
maybe we can make a sponsorship deal and I'll shill for NArdVPN on my strim in exchange for some c*llusion?
how does that sound to you?

[crude mortar]

ban all these off topic scum from this pvp holy sanctuary

[steel coral]

there is no off topic in #pvp

[candid sluice]

oh sorry i thought this was the azur lane pvp offtopic channel

[jolly lichen]

Much better, now start behaving please. Thanks.

[ancient skiff]

[glossy meteor]

Does anyone have any idea why some pvp ships have a moon over them?

[jolly lichen]

sounds like a gear skin

[dry socket]

it's an auxilliary skin you can get

and equip

[jolly lichen]

probably cruise pass related

[glossy meteor]

ahh what is the skin?

[candid sluice]

looks like someone did a bit of 🧹 🧑‍🏭

[candid sluice]

its an aux skin from battle pass boxes

[glossy meteor]

any idea on what it is called

[candid sluice]

idk i didnt buy the 10bucks pass

[ancient skiff]

sec

[dry socket]

i don't think it was

a pay to get

[untold crater]

it is

[ancient skiff]

Satellite moon

[glossy meteor]

ahh its cool
but too bad you gotta pay

[candid sluice]

its in the pay pass

[dry socket]

i spent nothing and got it

[candid sluice]

the butterflies and planets were free

[glossy meteor]

well i don't equip skins but it was neat to see

[jolly lichen]

I think it was in the random pool too for the free-side? might be wrong

[dry socket]

most reasonable explanation

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

you get 2 random weapon skins from free pass, and one of each type of the pool for paying pass

funny how weapon skin is technically a pvp strat cus it hid your ammo/plane choices

[jolly lichen]

dunno how to read the wiki tbh but it looks like random aux started the 3rd iteration onwards

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

dunno how early season but im certain last season was 2 random of the premium skins