wiki says any T3 or T4 boxes
#pvp
calm mica
tall nimbus
gunboat dds good??? 
stuck grail
No fumo on destroyers =\
cinder wolf
gunboat pretty undewhelming in pvp
mental temple
No fumo on destroyers =\
That's why I said when, and put a dash through it kek
mental temple
gunboat dds good??? <:z35wow:471465324924108811>
In PVP, God no, I have sadly found out myself
tall nimbus
calm mica
lol yeah pvp is all about stacking up that burst damage
mental temple
Yea
cinder wolf
number advantage pretty much everything, anything that kill early > constant dmg
calm mica
She's got 2 preloads, nothing spells burst damage more than that
tall nimbus
calm mica
That's why preload is so top tier. A dead enemy can't shoot you 
mental temple
It's the best survival aux to give her, next to a toolkit
And never use Helena as tank. She wants to survive the longest, and on top of that, isn't very tanky
mental otter
In pvp, didnt u say that i should use her as tank over shima and yuudachii?
pallid phoenix
Does it make sense to use a Repair Ship as an Anti-Air stat stick?
tall nimbus
better to use manjuu + sg radar on helena
stuck grail
Does it make sense to use a Repair Ship as an Anti-Air stat stick?
They are mainly used as anti-aircraft boats.
flat veldt
fear my 72k health ranger
I fear not the Ranger with 72k hp but the Ranger with double preload 
stuck grail
Despite what her hull type would indicate, she is not a healer. Instead, AR ships have absurd amounts of AA; they are the best AA ships in the game. Outside of maps with a lot of enemy aircraft, she is not very useful.
steel coral
I fear not the Ranger with 72k hp but the Ranger with double preload <a:BelHide:...
what's to say I don't have both 
calm mica
I heard from a little bird that my Akashi on my defense fleet is countering some perseuses 
flat veldt
Ay woah woah, calm down, let Perseus have her time to shine
tall nimbus
akashi triple preload?!???
flat veldt
Akashi can be the next meta ok buddy
mental temple
In pvp, didnt u say that i should use her as tank over shima and yuudachii?
I'm not sure who said that, but definitely not. You want your Helena to proc as many times as possible. I'd go to say that she's not as tanky as either of those two TBH
mental otter
So then whom should i put on the tank position? Yuudachii?
Or shima, cuz she has 307 eva, and yuudachii - 276
stuck grail
If you have a team of shimkaze yudachi and helena, then there is little choice ... It turns out
Shimakaze>Helena>Yudachi
mental otter
Okay, ill set them like that, thanks!
tall nimbus
mental otter
And, in the end we get: enty warkai percy shima helena yudachii, will be the best fleet i can make
For pvp
stuck grail
Depending on what you want from pvp, I personally go there to swing a fleet of small ones, it's probably funny.
My attack pvp trainee fleet
mental otter
Ye, out of them i have only rikka
Wasnt lucky on uvh banner, 180 pulls still didnt get her
Anyways, thank all of you guys for your advice, it really helped me a lot!!
tall nimbus
cinder wolf
akashi best aa ship?
candid sluice
do i see pve builds being posted in the pvp channel? 
cinder wolf
keen silo
untold crater
MP/VV/AQL
candid sluice
hiryu seydlit fdg ancho yuki jun
cinder wolf
whole hms fleet
untold crater
Not bad
candid sluice
damn coulda been rank 1
candid sluice
thats called retiring
calm mica
Maybe what kept you from getting rank 1 was motivation
untold crater
Maybe the real rank 1 was the perseus' we lost to along the way
late heath
the real rank 1 was the kashino we married along the way
untold crater
What about keeping lvl 1 kashino for ex?
late heath
max ex score with 125/200 Kashino to show the world how much you love her
flat veldt
if you stopped caring why do u still post here
Man's prob lost to a bunch of Perseuses (hence the roundabout way of saying "overcapping") and he just wants some sympathy from us
Let pay him some respect
candid sluice
Sandy server good???
keen silo
i mean, the perseus walling is the main explanation for why their eos scores arent as high as the other servers
they got too many persues over there
flat veldt
Guys, is this the beginning of a new era in Amagi? 
trail temple
flat veldt
no one is safe in Amagi anymore 
trail temple
untold crater
GOD HIMSELF
keen silo
flat veldt
$1k MM between unultra and bucherlord when? 
flat veldt
candid sluice
if both of them try for eos in the same season the server will implode
flat veldt
untold crater
awfully familiar
candid sluice
Holy shot guys I’m literally shivering and timbering right now
royal beacon
hms
trail temple
I would be scared too
mellow charm
🇫
calm mica
Wow, even Salty is out? Maybe I can be rank 1
flat veldt
I thought you said it was over 👴
flat veldt
oh yea good point, this is the very serious #pvp channel after all, no one's allowed to tell lies here
strange tide
<:ASkek:910956304284143686>
Because it's relevant to here. 
Wrong reply but whatever.
light crystal
Holy shot guys I’m literally shivering and timbering right now
Only a hearty dose of Aquilium can stave off that threat 💪
candid sluice
Ok aoste
cinder wolf
frank pebble
is VH Armor Plating worth?
untold crater
yes on aquila
neon bronze
how do i git gud on amagi pvp
mellow charm
Percy
royal beacon
Preload cancer
neon bronze
fuming over no aquila. still using akaga since i actually need to level them up
north lark
royal beacon
Teatorp
royal flare
Oh shit I'm so sorry guys. I accidentally won against a Perseus fleet again today.
I didn't mean to I swear!
I know we're supposed to immediately quit like true alpha chads.
I'm really sorry for not being a quitter.
😋😉
cinder wolf
FAKE NEWS
keen silo
did you use akashi?
royal flare
Nah. Although I have wanted to try a repair ship at some point.
She's just low on my priority list
candid sluice
Oh shit I'm so sorry guys. I accidentally won against a Perseus fleet again toda...
delet this message while u still can
royal flare
delet this message while u still can
Never! I must live with my shame of not being a pro "quit game" player 😉
untold crater
fuming over no aquila. still using akaga since i actually need to level them up
If you have NJ then NJ + Akaga is quite good
Hard to beat triple BB with NJ+Akaga but it's doable
arctic sluice
untold crater
solar smelt
candid sluice
its an indication to what equips they are using and if they are +13 or not
other than that big number good
calm mica
Before, higher fleet power = win, but now with perseus it's changed up a bit
trail temple
Can still rack up a pretty high number with perseus in fleet but it's more just recognising the threats in the team and going from there
cinder wolf
perseus good?
late heath
Perseus + Kashino win again
candid sluice
Be careful on ladder guys there’s been a lotta perseus lately
cinder wolf
cinder wolf
she's just that good
untold crater
Yep I'll be trying to beat WR for uninstall%
cinder wolf
good luck, i just found me a new skip, maybe can pull sub 15 idk
untold crater
Just lvl ship in pvp, quit forever
cinder wolf
fake screen, no way u beat perseus with those 
cinder wolf
well aware
candid sluice
I already told u to give up man I have percy in my fleet
cinder wolf
could have been rank 1
untold crater
rank 35 instead
flat veldt
perseus good?
It's no coincidence either... 
keen silo
untold crater
Unoathed Percy...
flat veldt
yea that's the only reason he finished 2nd
calm mica
Yeah, mine's already busting backlines at 110
dapper stone
what perseus comps work? dont have NJ
calm mica
She works with anyone
dapper stone
What's the general idea with her, is it just the preload burst dmg?
candid sluice
It's no coincidence either... <:PercyHodo:854560163960848384>
Screw the perseus
dapper stone
richy/chise/hiryuu atm would perseus replace anyone?
flat veldt
Even @steel coral with the Perseus? You monster!
royal beacon
Ranger rng
cinder wolf
it's working guys, perse too good 
keen silo
untold crater
Percyful
keen silo
spare us @cinder wolf
cinder wolf
sorry im a competitive player now
flat veldt
Rumi guaranteed 1st this season
cinder wolf
my azur len esport career starts today
keen silo
candid sluice
Competitive screen tapping
warm crow
are preload CVs a must have in pvp? if so, what is the best aquila substitute between percy and chise? thanks
trail temple
Given the direction of this channel, I think the answer is going to be percy
In fact, there appears to be a case where they'll say that aquila is really a percy substitute
warm crow
oh, so percy for the preload then: 2 BBs? or 1 CV + 1 BB? or 3 CVs? for main fleet comp
uncut agate
are preload CVs a must have in pvp? if so, what is the best aquila substitute be...
the correct answer is independence retrofit, chise feels weak
steel coral
In fact, there appears to be a case where they'll say that aquila is really a pe...
accept the truth, heretic.
flat veldt
Aquila and Indep (retro) are both good substitute options but have you ever heard anyone say they needed to uninstall the game because of Aquila/Indep? 
flat veldt
oh, so percy for the preload then: 2 BBs? or 1 CV + 1 BB? or 3 CVs? for main fle...
Also yes, "1 CV + 1 BB" is the new meta (for example, Perseus + NJ)
Don't need to bring that 3rd backline anymore because it's just a liability 
untold crater
Manjuu vestal
warm crow
so is percy/indep + warkai + hiryuu a decent backline setup? i dont have the mafia fleet (including NJ), sadly
uncut agate
Yeah sure
flat veldt
Post your dock if you want specific fleet comps
shy dove
Anyone here have top 10 in pvp in amagi server screenshot last season?
shy dove
Not full i guess
candid sluice
shy dove
It's tiny XD
flat veldt
i will beat toastykaya's perseus
I mean, that's your risk to take...
Just a friendly word of caution tho, I heard rumours about a legendary Amagi player named SolomonMuto who once tried to fight my Perseus. Not only was AL deleted from his duel disk, but he also got sent to the shadow realm
candid sluice
open in web
shy dove
arg, i wish i didnt lose 3 points
tall nimbus
"i could have been first if i didn't miss 5"
shy dove
First n last time try hard pvp
candid sluice
i wish i didnt overcap 5 times but here we are
warm crow
any main fleet comp suggestions? not aiming to be aotn or anything, just whatever is best with my current dock. thanks
shy dove
any suggestion for first 5-10 game?
flat veldt
any main fleet comp suggestions? not aiming to be aotn or anything, just whateve...
Perseus/Warkai/UvH done
Just use Enty or FdG for now but swap in Warkai once she's like lvl 120+
warm crow
got it, thanks
royal beacon
any main fleet comp suggestions? not aiming to be aotn or anything, just whateve...
Anything with percy
steel coral
any suggestion for first 5-10 game?
relog right after reset and farm the rushers
shy dove
yes, i alr did that
keen silo
flat veldt
Uninstall the game first so you get a fresh pvp seed
shy dove
keen silo
cinder wolf
could have been rank 0
shy dove
2 AI, 2 noobs that cant win 5 games
royal beacon
cursive rapids
untold crater
2 AI, 2 noobs that cant win 5 games
Too fast, wait 10-20s
candid sluice
mans bagged so hard he found the bots
candid sluice
any suggestion for first 5-10 game?
wait like 20secs during season restart, log in see whos on your list and if u expect them to move, relog again to update the board, if no movers refresh
rinse and repeat for the rest of the set
royal beacon
Percy in pvp clapped ez 🥱
(legit no hack)
rustic bridge
Good cvs on back line 
candid sluice
im sure u have better options
rustic bridge
shame for nagato
rustic bridge
im sure u have better options <:YorkBruh:588629709328482325>
bisco
trail temple
Allow me to introduce the lowest levelled top 100
untold crater
@strange tide this dude is in your server, how you losing to a lvl70?
candid sluice
<:PortDoll:585585241142591535> shame for nagato
bro... the season just started
rustic bridge
5 lose
untold crater
Percy fleet
rustic bridge
On start not Bad
candid sluice
yea mustve been a perseus fleet
rustic bridge
Never atacka pery fleets
dapper stone
y/n?
cinder wolf
op fleet
shy dove
Thank @untold crater @candid sluice
candid sluice
rustic bridge
Ok as def fleet 
candid sluice
drek bad
rustic bridge
she is not worst
royal beacon
She is
steel coral
drake got cake
candid sluice
drek by far worst rainbow
rustic bridge
No better
cinder wolf
drek should have just give her dr status to perseus
royal beacon
Agree
neon bronze
But then the amount of ppl would be limited
Becuaes Perseus now UR
and i have a curse that prevents me from getting backline UR
unfair i think
dapper stone
is this guy already high enough to give bonus points?
candid sluice
a little
mellow charm
U have time, maybe he moves later
dapper stone
rank doesnt matter right? just the actual points
candid sluice
indeed
rustic bridge
bought to strong for me
strange tide
<@100672585351589888> this dude is in your server, how you losing to a lvl70?
Why are you saying shit like this as if you're trying to piss me off? 
Like I already said I don't care anymore, why are you trying to provoke me like this?
gray beacon
royal flare
Not possible to win this game ever
🤡
gray beacon
royal flare
Haven't seen a single Percy user today. Shame. I like the easy wins.
Maybe tomorrow
cinder wolf
used percy and get rank 1
pseudo copper
used percy and get rank 1 <:Blessex:753375684126310451>
Teach me how to use Percy properly Ruu, I've got too many skill issues
cinder wolf
can't spill the secret here, don't want to ruin the server
rustic bridge
i use goodness uni
pseudo copper
Uni has no preload so 🚮, but healing is 100% useful in pvp so ok choice
tall nimbus
cinder wolf
2
rustic bridge
can not she use
crisp tiger
salty has all the needed meta ships and yet he continues to troll with absolute gutter-tier ships
pvp-banned when?
tall nimbus
calm mica
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745143627608752179/973141145645371422/04....
Every server 2590+ 
2600 when
calm mica
Why are you saying shit like this as if you're trying to piss me off? <:rooWut:9...
Yeah, cmon guys. He could have been rank 1. Respectful sportsmanship in here
strange tide
Yeah, cmon guys. He could have been rank 1. Respectful sportsmanship in here <:B...
Why are you still fucking pinging me here? 
calm mica
Sorry, I forget sometimes that reply has it on automatic
strange tide
No, why the fuck are you still trying to fucking provoke me here?
untold crater
?
gray beacon
calm mica
I'm not. Genuinely asking for respectful behavior
strange tide
No, fuck off.
untold crater
Drama moment
gray beacon
strange tide
Like I already got AotN, you'd think me overcapping because I stopped caring would mean I actually stopped caring.
So why the fuck am I still being pinged with "hurr how you losing to this guy" and "hurr he'd be rank 1"?
royal flare
Drama over cartoons
candid sluice
someones having a breakdown
humble geyser
keen silo
candid sluice
lol
calm mica
I've tried my best to keep things civil, but got cursed at. Let's all make peace with the start of a new pvp season
calm mica
All new metas cause polarization, I think this is unrelated though
hardy bay
Perseus is not for pvp but some think so and others take the jokes too far so it's boring to see this chat, it should go back to being a club to have the option of not seeing it
flat veldt
If people can finish EoS T100 (and even EoS AotN) using only Perseus, then she is most def pvp meta material. There's no arguing with hard data.
It's only a matter of time before someone wins the entire season using only Perseus 
candid sluice
it wasnt our decision to make it public lol
you can ignore it completely
no one forcing u to stay here
untold crater
2 weeks
flat veldt
Only thing easier than muting this channel is beating Mafia fleets 
keen silo
hardy bay
Only thing easier than muting this channel is beating Mafia fleets <:blobSweat:8...
it's muted, I just click here sometimes out of boredom and it's always the same thing but I didn't criticize you, I gave my opinion 
hardy bay
ok 
harsh knot
What did I just read 
hardy bay
you answered yourself
cinder wolf
tall nimbus
untold crater
light crystal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745143627608752179/973141145645371422/04....
Imagine ending top at EoS. Freaking nerds 
prisma scaffold
Does drama count as off topic
keen silo
uncut agate
Does drama count as off topic
Yes, but this channel is a meme at this point anyway 
candid sluice
*server
untold crater
this channel is a meme?
mellow charm
keen silo
royal flare
This channel is far worse than a meme.
It used to be vaguely interesting before being just the Perseus jerking camp.
Now it's just like gameplay help. Absolutely useless 🤣
candid sluice
Damn you really connected the dots there
untold crater
?
calm mica
We gotta make pvp great again
untold crater
I'm going to be honest
I don't get Perseus meme
As I'd originally said, she's actually usable
royal flare
Percy is usable.
But she's not some game breaking wonder weapon like many think.
If even noobs with basic shipgirls can beat her regularly then she's not a super weapon.
In a fleet of 6 fully oathed 125's with maxxed out equipment yeah she's brutal.
But 9 times out of ten I'm seeing her level 100-125 with a fleet of 50-75 levels.
She's not winning single handedly 🤣
Especially when what you're going to fight is randomly determined.
keen silo
calm mica
idk, I can imagine about 50 3 BB comps I'd rather run than use Perseus. She's usable on the condition that you give her a +13 wyvern, and even then there'd be better options
untold crater
Percy is usable.
But she's not some game breaking wonder weapon like many think....
The game-breaking Percy is a meme obviously
calm mica
Only if you're facing nano/hiryuu/ancho would I recommend her in a comp and barely anyone runs that these days
keen silo
i dont even think perseus is good vs weeb fleet
untold crater
Just that some players here actually believed that you couldn't top 1000 without using mafia/Weeb fleets
untold crater
i dont even think perseus is good vs weeb fleet <:ASkek:910956304284143686>
Losing matchup for sure, 30-40%
calm mica
If you have nothing better, obviously
But the 99.9% of teams that use weak CVs or 0/1 CV the reveal is really not even that important
royal flare
I think too many also forget not everyone has any interest in being in the top 1000.
Just wanting a nice fun but effective fleet.
Unless you're rocking up with maxed out girls and equipment (which not everyone has) then it's not worth the worry
calm mica
A good vanguard battle with anchorage and 3 BBs will push through and not mind the 10% bonus damage done to them
Why even be here if you're not interested in improving though?
keen silo
calm mica
Even if you just wanna use waifu fleet, asking for gear recommendations would get you to top 1000
royal flare
Why even be here if you're not interested in improving though?
Improving and wanting to be the best are two MASSIVELY different things
uncut agate
I called this channel a meme earlier because one can't have a normal conversation here without someone inserting "just use Perseus/Perseus best yada yada" after every sentence
untold crater
It's only been like this for like a week
uncut agate
A week is long enough
untold crater
And it's dying down
The reality is simple captain
Perseus event rerun was really recent
royal flare
And half the time people recommend gear and ships people don't even have.
Hence my comparison to GPH.
The exact same happens. Doesn't help anyone improve
untold crater
A lot of people that are newer to pvp that missed Aquila event will have Perseus as their BiS for pvp
calm mica
Well, it's not worthless. A lot of good gear for pvp is something to work towards with this game's shitty research system
untold crater
And half the time people recommend gear and ships people don't even have.
Hence ...
That's the whole point of asking to post dock
royal flare
That's the whole point of asking to post dock <:DunktsukiStare:66108778361978881...
Which then gets various reactions from silent to "lol ships bad. You're bad"
untold crater
?
untold crater
What channel are you looking at
flat veldt
untold crater
You might be looking at the wrong server
untold crater
any main fleet comp suggestions? not aiming to be aotn or anything, just whateve...
Like?
keen silo
royal flare
What channel are you looking at
Any channel 🤣
untold crater
- ?
untold crater
Any channel 🤣
Any but pvp channel I guess
keen silo
the actual pvp players here are quite helpful id like to think
aside from the memes
the fact that we actually got a new pin in the channel says quite a lot
untold crater
Most of the memes are directed towards more experienced pvp players that know it's a joke lol
royal flare
If that's what you want to say sure.
Doesn't really matter what I say really does it?
Yes. Just got to wait for the memes to stop... eventually
untold crater
Memes won't stop
Just will be substituted by a new one
Before Percy memes we had latias memes
calm mica
3 things are certain in life. Death, taxes, and memes
untold crater
Rinse and repeat
royal flare
Well no. That's how people communicate in 2022
flat veldt
Perseus/Warkai/UvH done <:Blessex:753375684126310451>
for the record, this was a legitimate non-meme recommendation
flat veldt
this one too
calm mica
Yeah, it's all about context. If you're new and stopping by for help, be respectful and helpful. If you've been around for weeks/months/years, we'll meme and joke around if you like it or not
dapper stone
why warkai in particular
flat veldt
setting up for early 3v2 is a very strong win condition
dapper stone
I see
untold crater
With Percy reveal you can setup and advantage by sniping an Aquila
dapper stone
with 457?
flat veldt
plus Warkai is easily obtainable, not everyone has the Italian ships or NJ
calm mica
Yeah, a powerful barrage you can set up to hit either top or bottom on opponent team is pretty strong
keen silo
yes with 457
untold crater
Use mk4 or champ gun if you don't have 457
dapper stone
Which aux guns does one use for pvp?
untold crater
Warspite retrofit item is permanent now, and you get a free warspite from exam/ most letters
keen silo
tash gun
dapper stone
uh which one is that
calm mica
CL whatever gives 45 FP. DD guns is the 35 FP one if you have, otherwise 30 FP
untold crater
Only +35fp
keen silo
oh tash gun is for nj
untold crater
uh which one is that
The 152mm (?) From pr2 works well
candid sluice
If you actually need help here and post what ships/equipment you have access to we will help u lol
If u can’t realize that then clearly you haven’t been here often
keen silo
yes
candid sluice
We meme the other half of the time cus what else is there
untold crater
Both of these ones work
dapper stone
kk
keen silo
idt seattle as good cuz not 45 fp though difference is minimal
calm mica
Yeah, when you've been using the same meta for almost a year, what else can we do or say other than I could have been rank 1
candid sluice
And to be honest if What you’re looking for is serious discussion about pvp I can point you to at least three different servers that are available
But in a stale meta there ain’t much to talk about in the first place 
untold crater
idt seattle as good cuz not 45 fp though difference is minimal
Tru
The extent of effort you need to do to get meta fleet is open pins
That it
keen silo
people probably see the names inside and say unhelpful but thats quie far from the truth
candid sluice
The extent of effort you need to do to get meta fleet is open pins
and if u don’t have access to those ships and equips let’s see what u have currently and we can go from there
untold crater
calm mica
The pins also still mention this as a club 
fossil vine
What about perseus vs chise when other 2 are uvh and warkai?
Does the double preload outweigh
fossil vine
Yea I think for me, if Chise doesn't get to load an airstrike and I'm losing, I was gonna lose anyway
flat veldt
Perseus is also a cheaper investment compared to Chise for newer players since you don't need to worry about getting BiS DB
untold crater
Chise seems to be better
fossil vine
what is bis db?
untold crater
Best in slot dive bomber
calm mica
well, even helldiver is good enough usually
untold crater
Tenrai from PR4 research
fossil vine
oh tenrai
calm mica
Tenrai is nice, not hard required like a good BB gun though
candid sluice
Rainbows are a luxury
calm mica
Yeah, doesn't need to be 457 but some random yellow HE you might think is good won't cut it
candid sluice
You could use that one wack gold bbs gun in gear lab as replacement for 457 and still be fine
untold crater
Confetti gun?
candid sluice
The one that reduces reload time after like 4 shots or smth
dapper stone
this?
candid sluice
I think so
calm mica
It's pretty good. What is it, first 2 shots are faster or something?
untold crater
Yeah 457mm substitute
candid sluice
Increase mg dmg I think
dapper stone
candid sluice
Yea that
calm mica
Not a 457 but a good 2nd bis
candid sluice
You’re almost never gonna get to 5th shot in pvp
dapper stone
who has priority for 457, uvh?
untold crater
You basically never shoot 5 times in pvp
calm mica
Anyone that has a barrage tied to salvoes
untold crater
UvH doesn't want that gun because she will shoot 5 times
dapper stone
ah, true
untold crater
Unless you use flagship uvh
cinder wolf
untold crater
Just gear and sandbag
calm mica
It's about the friends we made along the-oh
fossil vine
Just live in different tz ez
calm mica
It is about that, isn't it
untold crater
EU baggers
fossil vine
what time is the servers anyway
fossil vine
about 19 hours behind me
calm mica
Not exactly. It's a timezone that doesn't observe DST. So if your region does do it, pvp refresh times will change twice throughout the year
untold crater
UTC -7 is all I know
untold crater
DST truly useless
calm mica
We always save so much daylight time, but nobody thinks about saving night time 
candid sluice
Daylight don’t need saving but my sleep schedule does
keen silo
🛍️
untold crater
With your ships it's gonna be tough
Try to snipe NJ since Shinano is flag
Well, what fleet do you have?
dapper stone
untold crater
What other ships do you have?
dapper stone
untold crater
Ah ok
dapper stone
maybe I'll just restart until shima snipes the backline with tea torps
untold crater
You can do Riche/FdG/Warspite so you can kill NJ before Shinano airstrikes
dapper stone
FdG missing 40 bps 😦
dapper stone
410 or 406 on richie?
untold crater
Mk7
dapper stone
only have purple 😄
untold crater
candid sluice
406
untold crater
Yea 406 works
keen silo
406 is fine
last swan
406 is fine
tall nimbus
shit i missed popcorn convo 
candid sluice
Unoathed noshiro smh
untold crater
steel coral
flat veldt
steel coral
this is essential to pvp, I assure you...
untold crater
I use Noshiro in pvp
untold crater
percy 125
rustic bridge
Lose on lv 60 enty
steel coral
perse + warkai = easy enty counter
untold crater
akaga counter enty
untold crater
rustic bridge
Near on lv 100
rustic bridge
Where Columbia not better
untold crater
well no because birmingham survives really well with blue skill, but for you right now columbia is better i guess
untold crater
<:PortDoll:585585241142591535> shame for nagato
yea
dapper stone
fuck I missed 3 exercises rip
untold crater
What's your goal?
dapper stone
aotn
untold crater
You'll be fine
dapper stone
dunno I cant seem to sandbag the points back, nobody ever moves
and I always miss it by like 2 points or so
calm mica
You could even still be rank 1
tall nimbus
rustic bridge
black heart is sweet
late heath
Nobody moves for me in the first few reset but I believe in the power of Kashino milk
untold crater
Could be worse, could have overcapped
calm mica
Yeah, just think how much worse it would be without Kashino milk
candid sluice
neon bronze
got spooked
didn't fight once
level diff is the reason, my PvP fleet has an average of 115~ levels
candid sluice
Perseus eugen new meta??
keen silo
candid sluice
<:Suske:925167001733849188>
im ahead of my time
flat veldt
Or maybe paid actors 
distant void
(Just searching around and found my Guild Leader's name)
And as it would seem he's pretty famous
calm mica
He's a legend that's dominated pvp for over 2000 years. Everyone knows Unultra
distant void
The guy did get Rank 1 for a long time
At the moment he's on a break due to well... Work
trail temple
I struggle with his fleets, he's tougher than the likes of Famine, Hail2u, Aoste, Vice and Phoenix
trail temple
Long story short, I lost
keen silo
probably cuz it’s the new meta
untold crater
Perseus healed them
calm mica
But they die in one hit
untold crater
Unultra?
distant void
He did share some tips about PvP back in our Guild
distant void
Yeh
I'm not into PvP
I just managed to touch below rank 100 then got down below 200 or something
Back in our Guild there is one guy that took down Ult 14 times if I remember correctly
flat veldt
The guy did get Rank 1 for a long time
Yea, this is true btw, no one in Amagi can match his pvp skills
late heath
keen silo
untold crater
As the adage goes, every masterpiece has it's cheap copy, and on amagi, every bagger is just a cheap copy of unultra
flat veldt
Unultra invented sandbagging, what we're doing is merely sandbanging
untold crater
distant void
Oh I see I see
late heath
In Amagi, we call it ultrabagging
flat veldt
At the moment he's on a break due to well... Work
Do you know if your Great Leader will return to pvp? Things haven't been the same without him lately
distant void
Do you know if your Great Leader will return to pvp? Things haven't been the sam...
He's still at work
untold crater
Yeah, without unultra, some rusher won
distant void
He's still online for dailies
But not in our Guild chat
Though he sometimes reacts to our Shinano Arts
Whenever we mention him
untold crater
What guild are you both in?
distant void
But not in our Guild chat
I mean he doesn't talk a lot
distant void
What guild are you both in? <:Thinkpitz:470795614246928384>
FENRIRHOWLS
untold crater
distant void
What guild are you both in? <:Thinkpitz:470795614246928384>
He's the founder
flat veldt
Gotcha, let him know that the entire Amagi PvP Community would like to warmly welcome him back anytime
distant void
Gotcha, let him know that the entire Amagi PvP Community would like to warmly we...
I will
untold crater
It's just not the same without unultra
distant void
Ult and our Vice GM argue with sometimes(before Ult took a break)
flat veldt
Back in our Guild there is one guy that took down Ult 14 times if I remember cor...
wait, can you clarify what you mean here?
flat veldt
oh what were they arguing about or is this confidential information?
distant void
Before NJ came, he uses Waspite
distant void
oh what were they arguing about or is this confidential information?
It's just a friendly argument
Sometimes in suggesting things for new players
keen silo
distant void
Don't worry, he's a fellow Guildmate of ours
flat veldt
distant void
Before NJ came, he uses Waspite
In before, he wanted to recruit some 100+ players
Sadly they have Guilds
coral wren
distant void
Hell, this guy is a definition of a god
coral wren
ye boss man and syn is op af
flat veldt
dam, you guys must be blessed to have him as your leader
untold crater
why ask us and not him? 🤔
untold crater
he has a discord
distant void
And I don't want to bother him
distant void
dam, you guys must be blessed to have him as your leader <:Blessex:7533756841263...
Yeah
flat veldt
Does Ult still use Jeanu
this was what he last posted here
distant void
flat veldt
super solid fleet, I don't think I've been able to beat it yet
coral wren
coral wren
He loves recommending Jeaneu
true
distant void
this was what he last posted here
I call it a Sniper Fleet
Even though Waspite is most likely out of meta, he still wanna use
untold crater
I'm using warspite this season
She works well with a preload CV like Aquila/Perseus/Chise
distant void
I do wanna copy his fleet but, I don't have Anchorage and besides I'm not into PvP
distant void
She works well with a preload CV like Aquila/Perseus/Chise
Indeed
untold crater
Anchorage is permanent so you have all the time in the world
royal flare
Juneau is too precious to be used in PVP!
She is to be kept safe at base getting headpats
untold crater
No she dies to heal my fleet
royal flare
No she dies to heal my fleet
You sick....
untold crater
I don't use Juneau anymore tho
keen silo
ok but I do
untold crater
Weeb users
royal flare
Uh oh! Perseus and enterprise! This is gonna...oh...oh nevermind 😋
royal flare
I don't use Juneau anymore tho <:Blessex:753375684126310451>
To be fair I used to use her. But she kept sinking AFTER the rest of the vanguard 🤦🏻♂️
calm mica
Whoa was that manjuu Perseus? New meta?
untold crater
Timing Juneau can be tricky
royal flare
Yeah. I just keep her back now. And get choked up by her full intimacy oathed line
untold crater
The 5 dead brothers?
flat veldt
Weeb users <:DunktsukiStare:661087783619788812>
No weeb users in Amagi luckily
distant void
Oh by the, Ult's PvP fleet might change once Dreamwalker's Butterfly Rerun comes
untold crater
if
distant void
The man's been waiting for Shinano for years now
distant void
if
Yeah
That's just my prediction
Welp anyways, gotta do some dailies.
Thanks for conversation guys 
flat veldt
Great talking to you guys
distant void
Also Good luck in PvP
flat veldt
Thanks for reporting unultra's status, we are looking forward to his great return
distant void
untold crater
stayed blessed
royal flare
The 5 dead brothers?
Yes.
coral wren
<:Blessex:753375684126310451> stayed blessed
🙏
candid sluice
Unultra taking a break??? Maybe the rest of us have a chance this season
royal flare
No weeb users in Amagi luckily <:Z35Wow:710074825661743134>
But...I'm a weeb in Amagi...
untold crater
Weeb is a fleet composition, everyone that plays AL is a Weeb
candid sluice
There are ppl in amagi who use weeb?
untold crater
Not any good ones from my observations
calm mica
Unultra taking a break??? Maybe the rest of us have a chance this season
He's taking a break because he's already gotten rank 1 this season
We can still go for rank 2 though
royal flare
Lvl 99 oathed Juneau...
One day she'll be 100. Then she'll be a commission ship like Shropshire.
fallow granite
should I make a preload fleet with Richy Aquila and Perseus or should I use Chise instead of Richy?
uncut agate
you have NJ right?
candid sluice
He's taking a break because he's already gotten rank 1 this season
Damn he probably got aotn already too
fallow granite
you have NJ right?
currently I'm using NJ, UVH, and Enterprise
I also have FDG but I don't think a triple BB for pvp is healthy
uncut agate
the fleet in the pins is currently the most effective attack fleet
untold crater
If you can, make the fleet in the pinned comments
fallow granite
ah crap I don't have vit
untold crater
If not, show us your dock and we can make an alternative
fallow granite
If not, show us your dock and we can make an alternative
ok do I need to make a thread?
untold crater
Seems like your best option is Riche/NJ/Aquila
fallow granite
oh wait you can't make thread here
untold crater
Nah
fallow granite
hold on after I'm done with this auto battle I'll send a picture
so is it ok if I send like 10 images of my dock?
faint quarry
B
untold crater
might as well but i think Riche/NJ/Aquila is already your best alternative
fallow granite
captain fluffs said something about anchorage or juneau with manjuu as preload counter but there's another person that said he's seen a lot of people use juneau with manjuu yet juneau is the first one to die to his preload fleet
untold crater
Dont use manjuu juneau
Just put her off flag, use your Manjuu on anchorage
More interested to see what VG ships you have
fallow granite
ok so I've only taken 4 images of my dock to see if these are good enough
untold crater
Lvl your anchorage and Noshiro and use Ancho/Shima/Noshiro
fallow granite
my current exercise fleet
uncut agate
Dont use manjuu juneau
I said that in case of no anchorage
but they have anchorage, so ignore that
fallow granite
Lvl your anchorage and Noshiro and use Ancho/Shima/Noshiro
alright thanks
doesn't noshiro die really quickly?
untold crater
No
fallow granite
reason why I replaced noshiro with kron is because she kept dying
untold crater
She nerfs enemy torp and buffs yours, pretty strong
untold crater
She kept dying because of hidden level difference mechanic
fallow granite
I used her in mob fleet and was fighting like 7 mobs so that's probably why
untold crater
For every level difference, the lower lvl ship takes 2% more dmg and deals 2% less
fallow granite
so I'll level up Anchor and Noshiro
untold crater
(iirc)
untold crater
so I'll level up Anchor and Noshiro
Riche/NJ/Aquila, as for equips use the ones shown in pins
And if there's any equips you don't have there I'll show you alternatives
fallow granite
wait Aquila's equip is sea hornet but I thought tigercat is better
untold crater
Sea hornet is faster with same stats? iirc?
tigercat has .2s slower reload, sea hornet flies slower giving it theoretically worse AA
But you'll be used Avi Gas which speeds up your planes
fallow granite
ok so I searched it, sea hornet is 0.2s faster reload, 8 more speed, 6 less crash damage, and 2 less dodge limits
and also has 10 less hp
untold crater
Plane HP is important
fallow granite
yeah sea hornet has 10 less plane hp
compared to tigercat
and sea hornet is faster with 2 less dodge limits
untold crater
fallow granite
these are their loadout btw
I'm very lacking on CV loadout
the sea hornet I have is used by perseus currently
candid sluice
thats solid for now
fallow granite
ok
candid sluice
the upgrades would be the rainbow planes and sea hornet
untold crater
Yeah how close are you to 457mm gun?
fallow granite
Yeah how close are you to 457mm gun?
hold on let me go see what gun that is
oh wait the UR prototype main gun
yeah I'm not very close
let me go check hold on
I'm at 30 blueprints rn
and the UR plane I'm at 12 blueprints
I'm not getting them anytime soon so I'll just use the NJ's HE gun
untold crater
It's in the shop so you can slowly buy it, but you can get this gun on NJ until you get the 457mm and give riche the mk7
fallow granite
ok thanks
keen obsidian
what kind of asshole put manjuu on NJ
trail temple
Don't fall for the lies of Famine
Embrace white shell
Quyet still won't tell me what they do
candid sluice
famine disease with quyet as the cure
late heath
what kind of asshole put manjuu on NJ
the one with very beautiful butthole
clear briar
stark sail
Hi. Juneau with pearl and damage control on exercises is a solid strategy or bm? 
untold crater
do you have anchorage?
if so, then its a waste, better to use juneau with pearl tears and damage control on anchorage
stark sail
No. have not research her yet, i suppose she is a good tank from her skills(or 1 of the best)?
untold crater
Essential to pvp
Would say maybe as important as NJ
A bit less, but still really good
With NJ and Anchorage you can get through almost every fleet in AL pvp
late heath
Remember to marry & teach her how to read
untold crater
No the dumber, the tankier
late heath
stark sail
Well.. So if i did not acquire NJ i basically screwed? 
late heath
Yes
stark sail
gotcha. Thanks 
untold crater
Not necessarily
Just like going from easy mode to medium mode
Now if you have bad gear...
sour oasis
and the UR plane I'm at 12 blueprints
UR equipment makes PvP a lot easier.
Because tryhards
cinder wolf
yeah not having nj pretty much asking for bad time, you can copium said its doable but it requires overgearing which most of the time not the case from ppl who dont hv nj
untold crater
yep
candid sluice
nj is the cheatcode for pvp
tall nimbus
dats y i gave up halfway through the shit i was doing
i dont have the patience to do 1 hour of resets when i ran out of refreshes
light crystal
nj is the cheatcode for pvp
No, it's 👈
candid sluice
ok aoste
trail temple
keen silo
neon bronze
THE SECRET FILES
candid sluice
another follower of perseus eugen 
flat veldt
sour oasis
nj is the cheatcode for pvp
When everybody cheats, nobody wins
||Except the whales who cheat and buy oath rings||
candid sluice
~~When everybody cheats, nobody wins~~
||Except the whales who cheat and buy oat...
Except unultra
flat veldt
How does a man just keep winning while on a hiatus? 🤯
keen silo
distant void
Except unultra
frank pebble
converging torps, or regular?
calm mica
you mean torp bomber?
frank pebble
ryusei or wyvern?
calm mica
wyvern
candid sluice
wybern
royal flare
converging torps, or regular?
I prefer regular. I find others miss too much or go after the wrong target.
Plus so long as you're not looking at the target (rearguard for example) they always hit due to magic
keen silo
keen silo
neon bronze
huh. been using poverty tenrais on AKaga for them PvP
fallow granite
why is the single 120mm gun used for shimakaze in the pinned message instead of the 76mm aa gun?
keen silo
Longer range
neon bronze
76mm enjoyer, can't wait to see how it'll fuck me in the ass with a loss
fallow granite
Longer range
5 more firing range?
keen silo
76mm enjoyer, can't wait to see how it'll fuck me in the ass with a loss
it wont
the difference isnt large
keen silo
5 more firing range?
idk the exact numbers
fallow granite
I just use 76mm cuz it's just a bit faster
76mm has 50 firing range and 120mm has 55
keen silo
Uty, it doesnt really matter
neon bronze
ah
because i only hve 1 of each gun strapped on shima and aynami rexpectively
fallow granite
120mm also deals just a bit more damage but that could be ignored if you can use the skill faster I think
fallow granite
also thanks to yesterday's help I can now destroy people easily in exercise
why shimakaze is using that torp in the picture instead of other torps like ur torps
candid sluice
basically that gif
has high nuking potential
no monkes were hurt in the making of that gif
keen silo
fallow granite
so that torpedo has higher damage than other torpedoes?
keen silo
yes and + black torp aux
fallow granite
hold on does the torpedoes shimakaze fire with her skill depends on what torp launcher she uses?
keen silo
it has the best nuking ability
fallow granite
yes and + black torp aux
right I have that
candid sluice
more like the spread pattern of the torp allows for more of them to hit
keen silo
you can see in the gif shimakaze shoots out a cone first then the torps in a line (the line is the teatorp pattern)
candid sluice
its concentrated into one straight line meaning you can take out a specific ship
fallow granite
you can see in the gif shimakaze shoots out a cone first then the torps in a lin...
the line torp is from that torp launcher?
keen silo
yes its from that specific torp
fallow granite
also how are the torps fired magnetic when the ammo type is normal
keen silo
yea
fallow granite
oh forgot about that
keen silo
magnetises first salvo
dapper stone
percy or chise? flag or off flag?
dapper stone
Have neither tenrai nor aquila 😄
cinder wolf
juneau tank is food
rustic bridge
gears ok for pvp
candid sluice
wyvern where
candid sluice
i expect you to have at least one yes
rustic bridge
On here i use she
rustic bridge
I take she later for meta fight train she on time
mellow charm
candid sluice
u tellin me u bring double wyvern formi to meta fight instead of convergings?
keen silo
mellow charm
that guy is ahead of his time
candid sluice
we are seeing the birth of new meta
shadow egret
trail temple
Your planes are too slow, no wonder you lose every game, need more Skyrockets
pseudo copper
Salty is best EN player, only he can get a 30% wr with Percy and Unultra around 
trail temple
Obviously salty isn't best EN player if Unultra is beating him
and everyone knows bucherlord is pretending to mald about pvp, he's definitely one of the better pvpers in amagi
candid sluice
everyone knows the food chain
rushers -> casul baggers -> LAgence -> butcherlord -> unultra
trail temple
pseudo copper
Obviously salty isn't best EN player if Unultra is beating him
Unultra isn't best EN player, Unultra is best player, big difference
trail temple
But EN is the best, as far as PvP is concerned
cinder wolf
keen silo
mellow charm
keen silo
