pvp

[safe meteor]

someone claimed she is T0 along with Juneau as a vanguard

[candid sluice]

I’m not using her rn but I’ve seen combination of rudder + beaver/bulge/radar/manjuu/etc depends on the rest of your fleet too

[candid sluice]

She’s top tier but not dependent on whether or not jun is in the fleet

The addition of NJ boosted her up too

[safe meteor]

i mean

the only T0 that were listed were Juneau who is definitely T0

but Seattle, that i doubt

i dont think she is the 2nd best vanguard

[candid sluice]

It’s largely comp based too

She’s a part of a top tier fleet

[safe meteor]

which is?

NJ, Aquila, VV
Juneau, Duca, Seattle?

[sour oasis]

I'm starting to see non-Juneau NJ fleets. And they're annoying all the same.

NJ mafia core is really a team unto itself.

[spare iron]

NJ Mafia core?

[elder crane]

She was always borderline even in Namagi meta
When meta switched to being extremely CV-heavy, she was really good
Despite less focus on CV dmg now, even vs vanguard, NJ buff has kept Seattle among the best

[elder crane]

NJ with VV Aquila Duca
The other quite viable option is full USN, NJ Independence X with probably Juneau Birmingham Seattle

[spare iron]

Hmmm, what makes Birmingham more attractive to bring than say Monty?

[elder crane]

Evasion buff and immunity skill

Next preferable is usually actually Columbia

Monty skill is both RNG and not even that good so she really just has a bit higher base stats, which is whatever

[safe meteor]

what you think of Reno?

10% less dmg taken for herself and ally carriers

[wooden pendant]

shes great in certain comps vs Cv fleets

[dull hollow]

https://twitter.com/winterywinter20/status/1409820032805203971

겨을 / wintery (@winterywinter20)

time to... #アズールレーン #碧蓝航线 #ペーター・シュトラッサー(アズールレーン) https://t.co/1kJKG7c0JH

Twitter · Jun 29, 2021, 10:24 AM

Interesting result

[meager valley]

[sour oasis]

I've seen a Reno Sandy Isuzu vanguard once before. It was kinda funny until their backline started to whittle my vanguard down. (Turns out there was enough AA to stop my Perseus from stealth spotting)

[dull hollow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/712251347612729364/858770988694765589/856201818361954304.gif reno shooting your planes

[lime folio]

Is there a way I can make this work? (consider them 120)

I wanna keep using Azuma since she's my waifu but I also wanna try out Drake

[timid current]

azuma is still good bc of her gun but drake is just not good in pvp

[lime folio]

Hm aight

[timid current]

low damage and no team support

[lime folio]

Guess I'll wait for the PR4 japanese ship

[timid current]

haku is cv

[lime folio]

I mean as another fancy UR to use

[timid current]

aah lol

[light crystal]

Take out Drake for Juneau

Put Juneau lead, Duca middle, and Azuma last

It's pretty much T0 at that point, with AQL/NJ/VV as backliners.

[timid current]

i think in this case he just wants half meta half waifu

[light crystal]

I know this cuz there's this guy in Washington that's running a sweaty comp of AQL/VV/NJ, Juneau/Duca/Azuma.

[lime folio]

Yeah

[light crystal]

My WR is only about 60-70% against him, in a test of 20+ battles.

[lime folio]

Too bad Drake isn't useful in PVP, all this hype for nothing 😔

atleast she hurts against bosses

[timid current]

yes thats her purpose

hard to be meta in both pve and pvp

[light crystal]

Well, I hear they're planning to buff Drake again. I don't expect any high viability for PvP, but can be more consistent in PvE I guess.

[lime folio]

[timid current]

[lime folio]

[sour oasis]

[candid sluice]

[dull hollow]

drake is the most

pepege ship the released

as a pr

she literally doesnt do anything

interesting

besides a mini lifesteal barrage

[flint sun]

NJ aquila meta dead now yes?

[flint sun]

when I was new people talked about how she was OP lmfao

[flint python]

Dead what now

[elder crane]

Can be OP but boring af

Drake and FdG both fall into that pretty much

[candid sluice]

She’s just a heavy cruiser behind a dr wall

[mint hornet]

Aren't you still a new player? She came out less than a month ago

[candid sluice]

At least fdg has balls to walls insane dmg output

[mint hornet]

I.e you've played for a month

[elder crane]

Azuma at least has arcing AoE main guns and later on VH armor

[flint sun]

who's a new player

I knew everyone currently chatting here for over a month

[elder crane]

Nano for example is also boring af

[flint sun]

ah

My team currently just makes nano look like paper

[candid sluice]

Those pr bbs with a gimmick are pretty cool

[elder crane]

Current meta is too much AA and matches too fast

[flint sun]

But not because my team is good or anything

their 120 nanos probably aint built right

[elder crane]

My fav of the bunch is odin

[flint sun]

she looks cool af

[elder crane]

Least fav is Izumo since her gimmick is sucking

[flint sun]

I want azuma

cuz I wanna use her in PVP, but then I realized

[elder crane]

Probably champ tbh, is surprisingly
Even gascan ends up more interesting I feel

[flint sun]

she's PR so I will never ever max her

so I'll sticc with noshiro / ykk

[candid sluice]

Champ is kinda fun to manuel with

[dull hollow]

drake is also visually real bland

not even her cheeks skin could save her

[candid sluice]

All she’s got going for her is that she’s strapped

[dull hollow]

drake's personality is bland
kit is bland
looks are bland

at least fdg has the

mommy thing

and the absolutely gignatic rigging

while having a somewhat interesting self steroid system

[flint sun]

o god she has a mommy vibe?

[candid sluice]

Pistol only redeeming quality abt her

[flint sun]

I've never seen any of her lines

[elder crane]

Anyways odin just doesn't have the straight power or right set of gimmicks to stand out
What she does is just super unique

[candid sluice]

The community simps hardcore for drek because she’s the best mobbing ca

[elder crane]

*in full fleet

[candid sluice]

But literally just roon muse

At least room has utility

[elder crane]

Solo she's actually pretty bad

Tbf if you don't use the stop or manual the red shields DRake just ends up doing a good deal more dmg herself than roon muse boosts

[flint sun]

ROON Muse sounds like a scary egg monster

[candid sluice]

Drek is just barrage barrage lifesteal

I’ll stick with my 15 other ca options thank

[elder crane]

Mine's still dev 24

[candid sluice]

I only have 85 prints for her

And probably never gonna go out of my way to dev30 her with pr4 coming

[sour oasis]

Never say never. It'll take a year, plus minus a few months depending on your research luck. Plus all those event DR3 prints. And maybe every 24 spare prints you get from PR1/2/3 can be recycled.

[flint sun]

oh yeah I have 300-900 of those weird things I converted into those blue thingies.. what should I use them for?

those blue thingies used to speed up are made to other.. thingies

[sour oasis]

Going to need more... Words.

Or pictures.

[flint sun]

blue thingies for speedup PR

Converted to other blue thingies.

what I use 'em for.

ooga booga.

[sour oasis]

PR1 speedup can be converted for prototype core currency?

[flint sun]

opened up my game

yes

[sour oasis]

120 of those gets you an Azuma/FdG blueprint

[flint sun]

Maybe I should use them for seattle bp's

or a weapon

[sour oasis]

Sure. Whatever you need right now.

[flint sun]

I'll ask in help

[sour oasis]

It all depends on your state at the moment: do you need to win now, or do you want to prep some more.

[candid sluice]

Convert em into those blue cores

No reason to speedrun pr1 ships if u don’t have sufficient prints for em

[sour oasis]

Until you do and you don't have any PR ships yet

With all the event ships since, is there any PR1 ship that's still... Unique? Room is an upgrade to Roon; JdA is similar to Saint; Howe could substitute for Monarch, Luigi outdoes Ibuki, Izumo is Izumo... (Though discounting Event ships, PR1 is still kind of nice.)

[light crystal]

wtf

Do u even own the golden hind skin? if not, then gtfo with the bland shit

[dull hollow]

dkek simp found

[light crystal]

Im a simp of lots of AL girls tbf

[dull hollow]

i only simp for wyverns

[light crystal]

u into bestiality? k, u do u

[candid sluice]

Buki still has double preload torps along with crit rate which no other ship has

[sour oasis]

Thought the crit was also in Noshiro and Jintsu? (And the 2nd preload is just a barrage and not like Naganami's actual 2nd wave a la Lightning Strike)

[candid sluice]

No it’s a whole round of preload torps

Her barrage is proc chance when firing torps

The crit rate is 40% too which is higher than any other ship

[dull hollow]

my nj's life

only to get sent into pvp weeks later

[stable dawn]

but then where do you get the 200 affection from?

[sour oasis]

Yeah but the 2nd preload isn't a copy of her 1st, it's some barrage with its own damage calculation

[timid current]

click the hearts in dorm for 6000 years

ez

[light crystal]

They dont go past 90 affection iirc

[elder crane]

What?
Ibuki literally is preload x2
Barrage is separate

Btw barrage has ICD and starts on cooldown so in PvP it won't proc on either preload lol

If you want to proc it in PvE it's 5 s ICD iirc and starts on cooldown

[sour oasis]

Hmm. I remember something about the 2nd wave not carrying the same properties as the 1st though. (Was it something special with magnetic torpedoes or the black aux torpedo)

[elder crane]

It's with blacktorp since well, it's a second launch

So obviously it won't have magnetic effect anymore

[crude mortar]

[sour oasis]

Ibuki would be a lot more dangerous if those 2 preload were simultaneous

[upper cove]

Ibuki would be a lot more dangerous if she could get the black torp to affect both preloads

[dull hollow]

black THIS

[upper cove]

[elder crane]

Torps in general would be more dangerous if they could instantly all unload but

No more torping nothing

[sour oasis]

Yeah, but with what Krazy said, two immediate waves with homing (and increased crit) would be a huge difference maker.

[elder crane]

Well the reason why she doesn't is because torps have delay
One more preload delaying things does make it a bit worse but it was always the case for torpteam that first ship to launch is the one that would most consistently hit

That is, this isn't something unique to Ibuki at all, is a fundamental issue limiting torp setups

[sour oasis]

Why can't she be more special

Having both initial preloads taking homing (either as a special exemption, or being considered simultaneous launch) would make Ibuki more valuable in PvP.

[dull hollow]

ibuki is special

in the head

[light crystal]

No, u. Ur into Wyvern XXX stoof. U sicko. Instead of appreciating good AL waifus instead.

[north vine]

[trail temple]

[dull hollow]

[dull hollow]

got wyvern to +11 on indepdence

it hits for 3k per torp

[wooden pendant]

hmm 3k thats odd

[dull hollow]

vs heavy armor shitters like fdg and nagato

which u see plenty of in jp

esp nagato

the bias

indepdence actaully just wipes shinano and nagato off the map when she launches her first strike

i love it

[dull hollow]

so has anyone tried

ticougly yet in pvp

are her rockets cracked

or meme

[flint python]

She's

[candid sluice]

Anyone else notice how if torps do a 180 around backline ships they get infinite range?

They never blow up unless someone runs into it

[dull hollow]

surprsingly can kill the 12-4 boss on auto

guess that wasnt a nj only thing

well ill let u know if she's pogsex or ehhsex in a week or so

[candid sluice]

Flexing on us by doing 12-4 over event

[sour oasis]

I can't tell if there's a bug or feature because it sometimes happens (and sometimes doesn't)

[dull hollow]

why does anyone

ever do events

idgi

there's literally nothing there

i mean unless you somehow dont have PR done in 2021

[candid sluice]

Yea that’s the thing

Not all of us play on jp

I don’t even have half of pr done

[dull hollow]

JP and EN got pr3 at the same time

[candid sluice]

Who cares abt pr3

I started late so

[dull hollow]

||so it's a you issue||

[candid sluice]

Sorry I’m a casul player

[dull hollow]

wait this thing doesnt even have a cute passive

lmao

wtf

alright guess no one is using this for pvp

[candid sluice]

Yeah it’s literally slightly upgraded purple fcr but can be used on cl

[dull hollow]

i guess

FP padding for events

[candid sluice]

For when u don’t care abt survivability it works

[light crystal]

It's great for PvE tho

[sour oasis]

Accuracy for gunboats??

[light crystal]

More like 32 FP on gunbotes.

[sour oasis]

||64 FP if you +13 two of them||

[candid sluice]

[light crystal]

Can u stack them? 🤔

Would be fun to try out on Sandi

[candid sluice]

I don’t see why you couldn’t

[slender atlas]

Any pic that show gear for meta pvp now? The vv nj aquila, juneau duca seattle team

[light crystal]

Tanking gear on VG, HPFCR on VV/NJ, 457 on NJ. Then the rest straightforward for the most part.

[slender atlas]

Which gun for vv?

[mint hornet]

mk7 usually

[lime rivet]

ps: 1 copy of 457 will be in the PR shop after the PR system rework.

[light crystal]

Dont forget to buyout any Ship BP u see on the Medal shop, to have stock to convert for currency to buy stuff from PR Shop with

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[abstract horizon]

is the rainbow triple 406 good on nagato

[light crystal]

No.

Too slow, you want to try to maximize Big Seven opportunities by using a faster firing gun, such as an FDG gun. Or hell, even a 457...

[flint python]

[light crystal]

Or a Hoodgun, if you're so inclined

[radiant brook]

Triple 283

No shelling dmg, just barrage

[flint python]

How does goldiver AA compare to suisei kai AA

[waxen lion]

curious on this matter as well, joining the question

[crude mortar]

nagato in 2021

[radiant brook]

"the future is now old man!"

[brazen socket]

This is italy meta right? All I need is just the levels and pearls tears and beaver badge right?

[candid sluice]

Noshi for Seattle and adjust positions

[brazen socket]

Should I keep in nosh if I dont have seattle?

And yeah im gonna add juneau to middle i'm just working out a few things on the fleet

[candid sluice]

Won’t hurt to have her but Seattle is better

[grizzled hemlock]

Juneau should be on the frontmost position(left) instead right?

[brazen socket]

Juneau middle I think? You want her to heal at a desparate moment

[flint python]

At that level , no If with manjuu item sure whatever

[candid sluice]

No

[grizzled hemlock]

but middle position protects her

[candid sluice]

Jun always takes front

[grizzled hemlock]

instead of getting her to sink at the right time

[candid sluice]

Well at lvl 95 she might sink much quicker

[grizzled hemlock]

fair point lol

[brazen socket]

So in my fleet is it Juneau front duca middle and noshiro right?

[candid sluice]

But at mid one of your other ships are gonna sink before her heal procs

[brazen socket]

Once I get rhe levels

[candid sluice]

Yea that works

[brazen socket]

Alr

[sour oasis]

Needs more punctuation.
"This future is now, old man!"
"The future is now old, man!"
"The future is, now old man..."

[radiant brook]

Interpret that whatever you will

Scratch that, all 3

[dull hollow]

thank mr jp server

all i did was do my daily hits while eating +9 out the ass

just coz i never forgot for once in 2 weeks

hit top 10

[candid sluice]

[dull hollow]

She can't keep getting away with it

[light crystal]

U like to live on the edge, nice.

Because of that, I lost a match yesterday myself, but it was fun I guess kek

[crude jetty]

please answer: nj perseus and ...

?

[sour oasis]

#pvp message

(really a full USS fleet would work)

[candid sluice]

If u gonna Percy might as well commit to the preload dump and go Aquila with torpmemes

[upper cove]

I imagine if he's asking about Percy he doesn't have aquila ready yet

[covert swallow]

he has no pasta ships

[candid sluice]

Well then u don’t really wanna use percy

Go uss with indepkai and friends that’s more doable

[elder crane]

The only reason to use percy without aquila available is for warkai, yeah
And that's pretty questionable

[spark galleon]

The other reason is cause she’s cute

[naive dome]

is noshiro or azuma tankier in pvp?

[north vine]

nosh with the right rng

[light crystal]

Probably Azuma tbh

Noshiro was barely more survivable over Azuma cuz of CV meta favoring CL's. But with resurgence of BB's, Azuma is more consistent

[radiant brook]

And her gun does a lot of aoe dmg to vanguards

Thx to being 3x CL being meta again

[ebon kraken]

[crude jetty]

yeah.. I thought percy is good aquila counter using pirate planes

[candid sluice]

How does Percy counter Aquila?

[crude mortar]

agent R randomly died

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/712571793126326303/857647343632908349/unknown.gif

who will stop saber this season!??!?!

to be continue

[spark locust]

can we delete the pizza ships from the game?

literally

everyone on the list rn

even the due on the utmost right

is using sardegna ships on his fleet

[spark locust]

I want to die

guess I'll have to level up the pizza ships as well

I hate this new meta

btw how tf did the italian ships get strong all of a sudden?

in what update did they change shit up?

I'm still running with old ass sakura meta and getting my ass plummetted

since those fucking pizza ships are made of minecraft's obsidian

what the shit dude

[crude mortar]

rift:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749898857567223848/860782406545309726/4mgsa1.png

[spark locust]

I'm tired of losing to pizza pasta ships

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZa0Yh6e7dw

[timid current]

then join them

[spark locust]

I'm trying

need to level those bitches up

[brazen socket]

When NJ came to the scene

Aquila changed the meta on her own

Duca and Veneto just helped her be added to the meta

NJ made italy meta worse

[spark locust]

is that the part of history where italy said fuck it to germany and joined the allies at end of war?

[brazen socket]

Considering the ships required for the meta yes

Juneau, Seattle and NJ

All are US

[spark locust]

italy be like

"I don't wanna lose"

changes sides

proceeds to find and hang mussolini

well shit

almost have NJ at level 120 at least

[candid sluice]

Devs wanted to make pasta relevant so they gave their carrier busted skills

And then they gave uss a busted battleship and it went on from there

[meager valley]

they're adding Hakaryuu to bring back IJN

[candid sluice]

Only if she has preload or fastload

Still 3-4 months for first dev30s too

[flint hound]

I beat this lineup before, but think it was just dumb luck, but what would be a lineup that can reliably win?

[flint python]

@covert swallow

[covert swallow]

[flint hound]

Pretty sure my lineup at the time was Perseus NJ Aquila, with Bel, Suzu and either Yukikaze or Ayanami. But I got distracted and lost to it just now

A part of it is most likely Aquila being only lvl 109, so she gets demolished super fast. Short of literally using a copy fleet (which I can't do cuz Independence is only lvl 91), could use some ideas outside of throwing anything that might work and hope I eke our a win

[flint python]

I use this to beat pretty much everything , you can switch helena and ykk out for something I'm just using them for defense

[covert swallow]

You could swap perseus for vv maybe if you have her. Also yea aquila being underleveled would be another problem

[flint hound]

Don't know if positioning also matters, but half the time the other NJ barely gets touched

[flint python]

Or just change your defense fleet so he can win @covert swallow

[covert swallow]

[flint hound]

Don't. While I'm looking to get AotN, it'll feel better if I actually earn it

Perseus dmg also didn't seem to do much, and her gear can't really get much better other than using a Staag AA and +13 everything

[covert swallow]

Are you using avgas on your carriers

[flint hound]

No, I use double gold cats. What's avgas do?

[covert swallow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/100/150_Aviation_Gasoline

[flint python]

Increase your plane speed and hp

There's also purple aviation oil tank for budget

[flint hound]

So it makes plane fly faster, but doesn't change airstrike reload?

[flint python]

Homing beacon boost reload

[flint hound]

Is the tradeoff of using avgas worth the aviation stat difference between it and t3 steam catapult?

[flint python]

Yes

[covert swallow]

Only for pvp*

[flint hound]

I'll try avgas, but I swear I'll forget like half the time to switch back to it from cata for pvp

Only use one per carrier right? Or does it stack?

[covert swallow]

It's not really that bad in pve. And yea only 1 per

[flint hound]

And I thought I had enough gear to use t3 general plates on...

[candid sluice]

Amagi player?

[radiant brook]

[sour oasis]

Only in PvP, only vs AA heavy defense (USS vanguard), and sometimes if you frequently end with an Enterprise/Hiryu mirror face-off.

[sour oasis]

Does plane HP boost of drop tank stack with av/gas?

[candid sluice]

There are some niche situations where u want the speedy planes to drop your payload faster in pve

[elder crane]

For slow effects or microtiming reasons yep

[dull hollow]

Not even uss vanguard

Junny helena azuma nj aquila vv

Can already consistently 100% delete an aquila strike

Like 0 planes remaining

[covert swallow]

people you're fighting are prob using bad setups and no avgas then

even with juneau/helena/sandy I only stop detection from aquila like 70% of the time

[sour oasis]

What are both sides running maybe my Juneau is defective

[dull hollow]

sir im the attacker

that is the defense fleet

i ran into

mine was

Junny Harry Potter (leveling her, but also funny steroid meme) Helena

NJ Inde Aquila

pr3 AA gun on everyone besides harry potter and inde

[sudden hinge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/766360183990386748.png?v=1

[flint python]

That's just seems unbelievable

[covert swallow]

[candid sluice]

You haven’t seen new meta yet then

[covert swallow]

he was saying vs Junny helena azuma nj aquila vv comp though

if every one of his planes are getting shot down vs that comp, I think there's another issue there.

[sour oasis]

Who's Harry?

[covert swallow]

stephen potter I think

[dull hollow]

yah 100% of my aquila planes

just got popped

i dont have any +13 planes

but it was wyvern purple sbc and American 1000lb fightbomber

[sour oasis]

purple

[covert swallow]

are you, using avgas?

[dull hollow]

i swapped to it recently

never needed it because even vs sandy comps

i would be able to detect enemy backline just fine

legit only this one guy

[candid sluice]

Are they all sexbofors +13

[dull hollow]

with his azuma meme shit

my planes disappear

havnet faced him again with avgas

willre-report

[candid sluice]

Probably has sexbofors on nj or something lol

[dull hollow]

i have sexbofors on my NJ too

and the one on my helena i think is +13

junny just +10

but i cant do shit to his aquila strike

o i missed a pvp cycle

wait i got top10 already

ok is fine

[candid sluice]

Not going for eos smh

[dull hollow]

whats eos

[candid sluice]

End of season top10

[dull hollow]

what that even do

[sour oasis]

(15 minutes before the season ends if you want to be specific about bragging rights)

[candid sluice]

Flex

[sour oasis]

[covert swallow]

1 minute before season ends

[candid sluice]

U get scores up to 2600+

[dull hollow]

jesus indepdence wyvern hit NJ for 2.2k

[candid sluice]

But that’s with agency

[dull hollow]

[sour oasis]

Or you're playing JP or TW

[dull hollow]

i dont think it would any sort of bragging right in JP

i hit top 10 while eating a million +9

and never optimizing +11

[candid sluice]

End of season top 10?

Servers deader than amagi

[fresh sandal]

question, if you leave a pvp battle before you lose you are able to salvage that attempt right?

[candid sluice]

Yep

[worldly cape]

I realized that before Aquila there was barely to no use of Frontier Medal

Now with Aquila/NJ/IndyR backline I can use either that or WNT depending on what I'm facing

[light crystal]

Maybe Haku and who knows, Parceval too will fix that, or maybe not

[candid sluice]

I used medal for a bit when I was running triple carriers

[elder crane]

WNT worked better though anyways
Since 3 CV usually didn't lack dmg, the issue was it took too long to do anything

[tacit fulcrum]

why i can't find any pvp gear guide?

even for NJ mafia

...

[dull hollow]

gear is a rite of passage

if u cant figure it out on ur own

u were not worthy

[radiant brook]

NJ: barrage gun and hpfcr to shit out barrages asap

Aquila: needs wyvern, highest crash dmg

VV: shelling gun and hpfcr

Juneau: don't use manjuu

Luigi: tea torp and black torp

Seattle: manjuu to stall

[flint python]

Meanwhile CN uses 818 , I tried it I don't like it

[radiant brook]

818 has low crash dmg

Just dalao autism

[covert swallow]

818 is a lot more unreliable on atk

[radiant brook]

Yeah the torps can miss very badly

[ebon kraken]

[candid sluice]

No manjuu jun bruh

I too enjoy wasting my heal

And Luigi isn’t locked to teatorps

Magtorps work great on her

[flint python]

Can't use Manjuu on Amagi no one does enough vanguard damage

[trail temple]

[idle ledge]

what's tea torp?

[sour oasis]

HMS torpedoes that fire in a line rather than fan out

[candid sluice]

30 degree spread

Not a straight line

[idle ledge]

so if I don't have a black torp then just quad mag?

[sour oasis]

Wasn't it 13 degree spread?

[sour oasis]

Or rainbow mag

[candid sluice]

Maybe I just know it’s not perfectly straight and one of the numbers is a 3

[radiant brook]

I mean, black torp makes tea torp magnetic

[dull hollow]

ive still never been impressed by a seattle

would prefer double iframe birnghimam meme

[candid sluice]

One time only then it’s hit and miss

[light crystal]

This. And considering she has accelerated reload, and buffs on torps, as well as slowed down torps, true mag torps are like homing mines that slow lock unto targets. It's neat. Putting tea torps on her, outside torp meme VG, which is garbage tbh, is a tactical mistake.

You really want to build stall VG

[sour oasis]

Only if you have a decent 2 BB backline

[crude mortar]

https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/2657c55e706e9866d7490969582954f1-png.jpg

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-visible-confusion-confused-gif-14771834

how desperated a guy can be to asking stranger to push

[candid sluice]

[sinful pewter]

[candid sluice]

Mans beat saber

[upper cove]

agent E

[granite flame]

Any thoughts on second large cruiser being brought into game for the Meta

Agir + Azuma = chonky frontline

[light crystal]

[candid sluice]

Sounds like food for Aquila

[trail temple]

If you want a vanguard that doesn't move, go right ahead

[light crystal]

Tbf, we know nothing about how Agir will play. It is highly likely she will be tankier than Azuma though. I suspect the tradeoff will be less DPS, but for PvP purposes, if she's a wall that can actually take punishment and not just keel over, then she may have use.

[trail temple]

One large cruiser in a vanguard, fair call she may be decent depending on what they come up with. But 2 large cruisers, I don't see that working out well with the current meta as well as the lingering remains of IJN fleets running about

Then again, who knows what the meta will be in 4 months time

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[flint python]

Skill: When positioned in front of vanguard increase speed by 8 , grains damage reduction 20%. At the start of the battle increase evasion and accuracy by 15%

When equipped with special gun automatically deletes one backline

[slender atlas]

Who can replace fdg, she not doing much dmg , i want more dmg

[covert swallow]

do you have aquila

[slender atlas]

Yes

[covert swallow]

aquila is good, or

indep retro

[flint python]

Do you also have VV

[slender atlas]

Yes too

[flint python]

Why not just go full mafia

You just slot VV , Aquila then replace yuki with duca

[slender atlas]

I dk, i try vv aquila but not good as aquila war kai. And now im using this

[flint python]

@covert swallow mafia bad

But anyway if Warkai sniping works for you then just use it

[slender atlas]

Current team work better but i see fdg always low dmg

[flint python]

Replace fdg with Aquila see how it goes

[slender atlas]

Ok

[light crystal]

I would keep FDG, take out Richy and put in AQL/Perseus/Independence instead

[slender atlas]

406 for vv?

[light crystal]

My current setup. The other setup is Mk7. But honestly, even if I could +13 a Mk7, I dunno if I would tkae it over a Monarch +13.

[covert swallow]

you wouldn't take a +13 mk7 over a monarch +13?

[light crystal]

Well, scratch that. Maybe I would. While it is almost 1s slower, it's not 2s 🤔

[flint python]

What's ur NJ gear

I would definitely take +13 mk7 over +13 Monarch gun. Sometimes VV just doesn't survive before firing 3rd shot

[light crystal]

Yes. I value firing rate over damage. if damage are similar enough. The reason being, I want to be able to get one last shot out before death. I've seen situations play out where a BB dies while they're just about to shoot, and that can cost u a game. But I was thinking Mk7 was 2s slower, so a little under 1s is not as much of a deal breaker.

[light crystal]

The standard. Some ppl run defense Aux instead of WS, which is OK. WNT, Rudder/Beaver, and even Manjuu.

[flint python]

NJ sinking animation is so long shells even locks onto her as she sinks

[radiant brook]

NJ base death: very dramatic

NJ bunny death: gets yeeted

[flint python]

I haven't seen bunny skin death yet

Well I mean I did fought a lot of NJ with it but didn't pay attention

[sour oasis]

It's hilarious.
But the base skin takes a long time, longer than even summer foxes (which potentially stalls out anyone silly enough to drag out fights until the last seconds)

[flint python]

I even saw dying NJ absorbed all shots saving the other backliners

[sour oasis]

Is NJ now the tankiest ship ever?

[radiant brook]

Yes with her luck

[lime rivet]

gotta say, Manjuu NJ is a pain in the ass

[sinful pewter]

especially when you forget to switch it

[trail temple]

[sinful pewter]

[candid sluice]

Trolling 5min rushers

[glossy meteor]

hey guys what up

is it me or does it feel like whenever there is a enemy bb or carrier it always hits your vanguard no matter what
and then yours never even touches them

[candid sluice]

You probs have a slow vg then

[glossy meteor]

ya but srsly what is up with my backline not hitting tho

[candid sluice]

Are u using jb or something

[glossy meteor]

no

warspite

and enty

with formi so i can hit van

[trail temple]

[royal oyster]

the pvp battlefield is not symmetrical

[candid sluice]

Ya sometimes vg placement can make your tbs drop behind enemy

[glossy meteor]

ya know the new meta is just pain in many ways

[trail temple]

Not really

Just old meta

[glossy meteor]

for me i never really did meta but with the old ijn i could rng through it

and with the carrier buff i could atleast last and kill the enemy van but dear god aquila

its not the damage just the fact your carriers are revealed and unless you have a quick strike carrier theirs not

[candid sluice]

Just shoot their planes smh

[trail temple]

We already had percy prior to that

[flint python]

Wdym by never touches? Enemy too fast or something? Your planes got deleted?

[glossy meteor]

welp for some reason it just does like no damage

enemy too fast

[flint python]

You have proper gear equipped? Lvl120s?

[trail temple]

Just poor optimisation

[glossy meteor]

most levels 120 the only excpetion is jenaue

im not super hard into pvp but still its just hurts

honestly im glad i can pause and quit cause the losing screen sucks

but srsly new meta just hurts in so many ways for me

[trail temple]

Run triple BB and high AA

AA go pew pew, aquila does nothing

gg ez

[flint python]

This kind of hurt

[glossy meteor]

the problem isn't aquila but just nj dps and vv
i also had to deal with the duca that used hms torps

in 4k

not power but ranks the hell

[flint python]

You can start by actually using better pvp ships

[trail temple]

It's early days, all the good players aren't going to be in the top 100 for you to avoid

[sinful pewter]

if you kill their front line, then your backline can only target their backline

[trail temple]

So yeah, actually not a surprise

[glossy meteor]

ya i guess that makes sense

and yes i know use better pvp ships that will fix it

but am i not the only one who this that the defeat screen sucks

[trail temple]

Depends on the perspective

If I see someone showing me their defeat screen after my fleet yanked a win away from them, I am elated

[glossy meteor]

i guess but really in a way it feels insulting

[flint python]

Knowing you walled people feels

[glossy meteor]

ya can't really get that feeling

but the pvp meta basically went to who can dps faster

[trail temple]

:alwayshasbeen:

[covert swallow]

I much prefer pvp now

rather than hiryuu vs hiryuu

[glossy meteor]

never really had hiryuu so i just had to hope for good rng with enty

[flint python]

Wait till attack advantage gets removed

[glossy meteor]

and that was the thing i could atleast try to rng my way through before but now nope
not a chance in hell for that

also attack advantage

[covert swallow]

then I'll be forced to not use level 100 vanguards

[glossy meteor]

hold on whats that

[sinful pewter]

imagine having a full 120 lineup

[glossy meteor]

whats attack advantage

[light crystal]

tbf, Defense also has some perks, particularly the VG placement. Makes it easier for enemy CV to land their torps on ur VG than for urs to do the same

[candid sluice]

20% dmg taken reduction

[flint python]

I feel like I've seen this convo before deja vu

[candid sluice]

And ya the wonky vg placement is bs

[light crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/déjàvu-drift-anime-initial-d-car-gif-17211916

[glossy meteor]

oh honestly defending just kinda sucks cause no matter what i have to hope that if they are running torp memes that they miss or my juneua just tanks with sucks cause i now lose a decent chunk of healing

[candid sluice]

Newer pasta meta definitely will make newer players struggle

The sheer dmg dump they do 5sec into the match is too much for some

[glossy meteor]

well i have been playing a while i just never was super hard in pvp

honestly i could be making tons of optimazations for my fleets in pvp and just in pve

[sinful pewter]

do you have nj and the italians?

[light crystal]

AQL + NJ DPS, I guess it fucks up with rushers and casuls too, not just newer players

[glossy meteor]

yes nj not at max i have two dupes but i need to level up

[sour oasis]

I have nostalgic for the past where the reverse was true

[glossy meteor]

itailians the necessary ones yes but again levels

[candid sluice]

Rushers lose 50% of games

[glossy meteor]

ah yes when you have to deal with enty rng and then reset still happens

hurts a lot since my backline ususaly syncs with it and i often deal with 5 luckyEs in a row

from the enemy

[light crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745143627608752179/854627634483036160/preload.png

[glossy meteor]

ok explain

[glossy meteor]

so how does that work tho

[leaden sky]

You want those rushers to get higher but they end up losing to preload comps instead

[glossy meteor]

what is the diff between a rusher and preload?

[candid sluice]

Rusher is a player

[leaden sky]

Rushers are players who rush

[flint python]

[candid sluice]

The ppl who do their tickets close to reset times

[glossy meteor]

that is why i usually try to time it so i do 5 exercises at about 20 mins before reset

[candid sluice]

That’s not rushing

[glossy meteor]

hmm so like what 5 mins before

[trail temple]

5 mins after reset

[glossy meteor]

explain

[candid sluice]

5 min - 30 min

[glossy meteor]

after a reset?

[covert swallow]

people who do their pvps right after they get them

[candid sluice]

They rush their tickets so they can get higher ranks easier

[leaden sky]

[glossy meteor]

oh i thought i was better to wait and have them at max since you get nocked down

[covert swallow]

they rush all 5 tickets so they can screenshot at rank 1, 2 mins after a reset

[glossy meteor]

but they just get kicked down so why

[flint python]

[candid sluice]

For rushing those rank bonuses

Easier time getting merits

[trail temple]

It lets them gain a rank they may have not been able to get otherwise

[leaden sky]

More like some of them dont really care with ranks, they just care for pvp points

[candid sluice]

Also to flex their rank 1 with 300 score thinking they cool

[glossy meteor]

highest i got at like a end of season i think i was in top 100

[flint python]

Pvp isn't cool anyway

[glossy meteor]

tbh not that i think about it why do i even do pvp

[flint python]

Purins

[glossy meteor]

i have way to many of those

[candid sluice]

It’s entertaining

[glossy meteor]

i guess

[flint python]

But yeah merit , who knows what they might add to the shop in the future

[candid sluice]

Requires more brain than 80% of the game

[glossy meteor]

that is true i suppose if you have high enough level your usaully good except for like ex stages

[candid sluice]

I just chase after leaderboards cus going thru game gets boring quick

[glossy meteor]

22 purp bulins 32 purins

so i don't think i need bulins but to be fair i do have a large amount of my roster not fully limit broken

[flint python]

EX requires bs

[candid sluice]

Lvl 1 lena with lvl 10 skill

[glossy meteor]

i am still 9 levels away from finally limit breaking NJ

[candid sluice]

Pretty funny to see it tho

[glossy meteor]

ok how does ex work tho cause its like your playing touhou

[flint python]

My lvl1 EX collection eating dock space

[delicate owl]

https://media.giphy.com/media/ms5h1IRZQrJh17BQAA/giphy.gif

[glossy meteor]

what

[candid sluice]

Low power level and shorter time = higher score

[delicate owl]

asking about ex is better to do in gph

[glossy meteor]

oh

[candid sluice]

Gph have no idea how to play ex

[glossy meteor]

same i just don't do it

[candid sluice]

Only riceist but he’s not gph main

[glossy meteor]

just thinking about it now but doesn't some backline ships take longer to die

like the animation

[ebon kraken]

Can be done with full 120 too

But will be hard to break 7k

Should be possible on this one though

[candid sluice]

French lena can do it

[glossy meteor]

ya but how do you get your van to survive tho

[ebon kraken]

Manual

[glossy meteor]

french lena?

[candid sluice]

Manuel dodge

[glossy meteor]

i try still die

[flint python]

[candid sluice]

Ya u gotta learn the spray patterns of the boss

[ebon kraken]

Give yourself a few runs to acclimatise

[meager valley]

gph players don't know this equation
final score = 10(5000÷ (time clear +48)^0.36 - (fleet power)^0.6)

i lose it every time so i need to save that somewhere

[ebon kraken]

They probably don't care

Cucks progression anyway

[candid sluice]

[ebon kraken]

[glossy meteor]

ok listen when i play azur lane i don't expect to suddenly have to play a mobile version of touhou lunatic ok

[candid sluice]

Requires too much brain

[flint python]

EX waste of time🚮 no progression

[ebon kraken]

Nah its a sideshow u do if you're bored of letting game run in background

Same with CM

[glossy meteor]

not even good rewards
almost like pvp

[candid sluice]

It’s there for a challenge and leaderboards

Sometimes game gets boring so I play challenge mode or ex just for fun

[meager valley]

kill the boss is 3s so you don't need to dodge bullets

[glossy meteor]

ah of course a good offense is a good offense

[ebon kraken]

Too slow for CM

[candid sluice]

U don’t have to do it of course it’s just bonus content and a challenge for older players

3 sec is fine for early spawn bosses

[flint python]

But I'm new🙁

[ebon kraken]

2555 is pain though

[glossy meteor]

welcome to the oceans

[ebon kraken]

You'll get to that point soon

[glossy meteor]

2555

[candid sluice]

I am at that point

Jabburin won’t die

[ebon kraken]

[glossy meteor]

ok what is 2555

[candid sluice]

A score

[glossy meteor]

oh

[ebon kraken]

Max is possible this week too btw

[candid sluice]

Sinking a boss within 3 secs of starting the match

[glossy meteor]

how

[candid sluice]

Ok but without richy I can’t 2578 light bosses

[ebon kraken]

Rerun your only hope

[candid sluice]

Always like 5 bars remaining

[ebon kraken]

Until then you're doing fine imo

[candid sluice]

So annoying

Phoenix last boss too

[flint python]

Show him the vid

[candid sluice]

Slap in the nuts when she cucks u

[ebon kraken]

Cleve for me this time, too casual to go for it again

Already snoozing on event and crosswave prep anyway

[glossy meteor]

crosswave prep???

[candid sluice]

I got the feels for cleve now so I can at least 2555 her often

[crude mortar]

is mod in this ch dead

[glossy meteor]

the mods have abandoned us

[candid sluice]

This is all pvp talk wydm

[crude mortar]

@lime rivet

[candid sluice]

I cannot sink Clevelands 3 secs into the match

[glossy meteor]

its true he can't

seee pvp

[ebon kraken]

You mean there's more to pvp than being a exp/merit farm??????

[leaden sky]

[flint python]

Pvp requires brain

[meager valley]

friendly reminder to not lose

so i can sadbag off of you later

[radiant brook]

"Sad bag"

[stable dawn]

[ebon kraken]

You'll have to move later than that

[meager valley]

Was that too early to be 6/10

Wait actually was this the last reset

I don't remember

[ebon kraken]

Depends on trucking potential i guess

[meager valley]

I'm a 10 minute mover

[ebon kraken]

Still finished t10 though, thats not bad at all

[meager valley]

First top 10 season

I lost so many points in the second half cause I didn't know who the rushers were

Luckily en is dead so I got top 10 anyway

Oh I'm pepega the timer literally tells me what reset it is. Smh my head.

[trail temple]

[warm saffron]

what are your opinions on stealth in pvp? should it be removed? Trying to explain to a friend that the devs don't really care about pvp that much but they keep raging about the CV stealth mechanic making them invulnerable

[trail temple]

It's perfectly fine?

and basically inconsequential if you have Aquila

Or Percy

[candid sluice]

It’s fine but might as well not be there when Aquila is all over the place

And you’re never “forced” to use a carrier to reveal since there are other methods of revealing although not as effective

[flint python]

It's fine tbh

[warm saffron]

yeah thought so ty

[safe meteor]

We are stuck to back to BB meta without hidden carrier mechanic?

[radiant brook]

Pretty much

[candid sluice]

Uh no

[light crystal]

No uh

[trail temple]

h Uno

[sour oasis]

Oh nu

[crude mortar]

uno

[radiant brook]

No u

[dull hollow]

who's ready for anchorage to fire Seattle

[covert swallow]

She's CA so I don't expect that.

[crude mortar]

CA

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/712571793126326303/857647343632908349/unknown.gif

[light crystal]

I've got my eyes peeled.

Gonna need some DR, eva rate, invincibility or chuncky smokes to be more tankier than Seattle tho.

Also another issue, less AA than Seattle

[crude mortar]

more interest in new gear

rip gold plate

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/540426432635994134/862112466858541066/ezgif-1-c726a2e4ac90.gif

[candid sluice]

Who’s ready for rainbow dive bomber

[stable dawn]

I'm ready for rainbow AA gun

[crude mortar]

im ready for rainbow fire suppresser

where is my rainbow cl gun

and rainbow manju

inb4 ijn manju

craftable

[trail temple]

I wonder how that would interact with Hiryuu

[candid sluice]

Does final counter negate the dmg that would sink her?

[light crystal]

I think not. Converging Rainbow TB is more likely.

I dont think Agir's gun will be rainbow. We could get a rainbow Fighter, but ehhhh. I think Rainbow converging TB would make most sense from the IJN, and would fill the niche nicely.

[flint python]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/838821337408864326/851889519682781302/speepohappy_50.gif

[candid sluice]

Yeah it’s probably a rainbow fighter

Rainbow converging would make the ppl who +13 7 ryuuseis mald

[flint python]

I have 4 +13 ryuusei to scrap

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/808436698403962881/862189521880481812/speepoLeave_69x.gif

[crude mortar]

rainbow fighter with 0s intercept cd

[light crystal]

🤔

Whot the fuck does that

Other than the Zero, I don't know of any other good IJN fighter 🤔

Also, they weren't known for their DB's, and their current DB's don't have large bomb payloads

Currently in the game they got the niche (Other than the german TB Junkers) for the best converging torps

[candid sluice]

A lot of people +13ed the gold tbs for meta fights

[elder crane]

only the clowns did the ryuus rather than stukas smh

[flint python]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-good-bye-bye-no-gif-5173989

[candid sluice]

Funny thing is if the rainbow converging is slower than junkers it might not even be used

[elder crane]

depends on the dmg
running sub 20 s load is already ehh

[brazen socket]

Okay so the rainbow gear for pr4 is a rainbow fighter

That could mean Aquila is guaranteed to win detection war no matter what

[candid sluice]

Will have to see it’s speed and hp

[flint python]

[light crystal]

I wonder if it will really be a rainbow Fighter tho. gonna be pretty boring if so tbh lol

[flint python]

I want db

[elder crane]

seems like rainbow fighter confirmed

[light crystal]

Bruh

Why they do this

WHhyyyyyy

[elder crane]

oh? nvm I got baited

[light crystal]

TB?

Pretty please?

[elder crane]

it's a TB or a DB yep
unknown which since it didn't say armament, but name is a bomber

[timid current]

like you care about converging torps aoste lol

[light crystal]

I see

[elder crane]

yeah if it's aimed TB then is

[light crystal]

Like, it would be nice if it's TB, and converging at that

[elder crane]

an AP DB probably is too

[light crystal]

So u got Wyvern for parallel, and IJN rainbow for Converging

[timid current]

pve is too ez now anyways

need more pvp power creep with DB

[elder crane]

apparently it's a fighter with converging torps

[timid current]

wait what

[elder crane]

would be weird though

cause in WoWS that plane is not a fighter

but confirmed it uses aimed torps I think

[timid current]

i think if it was a fighter with torps they would have been parallel so its probably just a tb

[elder crane]

Haku is 342 but super weird
can run TB in fighter slot
can run DB in TB slot

[light crystal]

????

Actually

I could get behind that

[elder crane]

I think it was confused with how haku slots worked

[light crystal]

So new rainbow equip is Fighter with converging Torps rather than Bombs?

[elder crane]

not confirmed

[light crystal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/540426432635994134/862112466858541066/ezgif-1-c726a2e4ac90.gif

[elder crane]

I think is likely someone confused it with Haku slots

cause Haku slot 1 is fighter or TB

[light crystal]

Wait

She can slot 9 TB's?

[elder crane]

no

she has to run 4 DB

[light crystal]

🤔

[elder crane]

slot 1 with 3 planes is Fighter or TB

[light crystal]

Oh

[elder crane]

slot 3 with 2 planes is TB or DB

[light crystal]

Ok, better question: Can she have true preload strike like AQL/Perseus can in any way?

That will answer her PvP viability

[elder crane]

I don't see anyone mentioning it so probably nah

[light crystal]

Ok, Mafia meta it is then

Now Im excited about Anchorage 🤔

[elder crane]

SAP BB gun for Marco Polo
85/140/115
sounds meh, if stats aren't amazing it's whatever

[light crystal]

I hope she doesnt disappoint and can have viability

[elder crane]

is MGM+1 so can't be that bad
idk about other stats tho so idk about PvP

[candid sluice]

Lmao called it sap gun for Marco Polo

Will melt carriers not named shinano

[elder crane]

is only 140% vs medium though

[candid sluice]

Higher than any other BB gun

[elder crane]

that's same as champ gun and I think lower than 457

457 is 145% yep

[candid sluice]

Is it really

Well nvm then

[elder crane]

it just has higher mod vs light but still shitty and it probably has triple gun reload

[radiant brook]

Haku dosen't have preload

[candid sluice]

Unless Marco herself has buff using that gun

[radiant brook]

But her planes ignore mods

[candid sluice]

Where’s the datamine send the link

[elder crane]

yeah but chance that marco is good enough for PvP is not that high

[elder crane]

is only a lowres CN image rn, some ppl translating posted a few highlights in comments as they work

[candid sluice]

Keep me posted pls

[elder crane]

okay yeah seems like confirmed it's rainbow fighter with torps

[light crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/usps-mail-united-states-postal-service-post-office-hero-gif-18232008

[elder crane]

seems weird to me since Haku can just run 4 DB 5 TB already

[candid sluice]

Wtf torp payload

[light crystal]

Yoooo, thats fucking awesome!!

[candid sluice]

What’s the alpha dmg and reload

[light crystal]

Worth farming for sure for peeveepee

[candid sluice]

But if it has the same drop location as wyvern

[candid sluice]

Dropping behind vg half the time

Those planes look weird

[elder crane]

seems like is aimed torps which is hmmmmm

[candid sluice]

That might be even worse tbh

[elder crane]

italian twin 90 mm
not sure if just filler
quite possibly since confimed staag is back for PR4

[candid sluice]

Probably another gun similar to pr1 aa

But italian equips = bis

[light crystal]

I take that

Cuz tbh, it's not like DB's are any better, they're random

These would at least track

[elder crane]

yeah 2x1k bombs is mmmmm ehhhh

aimed TB probably better anyways

[light crystal]

THey may also have special properties, maybe semi magnetism, they travel fast, they drop in a X pattern, etc

[elder crane]

is very unlikely since is already gimmick

note also Haku has a second plane, I haven't seen any news on that

[light crystal]

Well, we'll see

[elder crane]

Anchorage didn't get a new equipment tho
guess her stuff is all in game already

[light crystal]

Haku is probably gonna be an OK pick in pvp at the least, not optimal, dont expect T0, but maybe around T1-2, same as Shinano currently is

[dull hollow]

rip big fluffy

[elder crane]

yeah seems like basically another Nano

is going to be great for PvE probably

[dull hollow]

inb4 she's just saint louis or ibuki tier

[elder crane]

but PvP will be unless something interesting comes up

[light crystal]

Anchorage uses Baltimore guns

Which are already buildable in Gear Lab

So....

[elder crane]

and her secondaries/AA is also already ingame

we got vanguard version of Odin gun now though

which is

sigh

[dull hollow]

i remmeber when we were excited for odin's pvp performance

[elder crane]

why make it two diff equipment lol

[dull hollow]

"she can shoot the frontline all day long!"

[elder crane]

I think that was mostly you

[light crystal]

Ppl were?

[elder crane]

ikr

[dull hollow]

lotta ppl in jp were speculating if

the dps could make it

[elder crane]

lol

[dull hollow]

but oh well

[elder crane]

was immediately known it was just gunboat CL DpS

so uh

yeah

[dull hollow]

i mean this channel was shitting on NJ upon datamine and then did a 180 real quick

[light crystal]

I just thought, hmm, she so forward, she's gonna eat alot of torp dmg and such and just die quicker

[light crystal]

I was the only believer in here

[dull hollow]

i shilled it first

and everyone was like "no way f4g"

[light crystal]

Some rando even asked "U think NJ will be good only cuz she UR?" or some shit

[dull hollow]

i saw the barrage numbers and was like

[elder crane]

tbh still surprised FdG+ made it in

[lime rivet]

Datamine's out, btw

[dull hollow]

and everyone was like "nah she'll always lose to preload and her barrage is worse than warspite"

[light crystal]

I just saw stats, barrage, skills, and synergy, and knew she was gonna be top tier from the get go

[dull hollow]

[lime rivet]

As in Dim's spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q8U09klpuipkv2nO4yUot5vHFY4HsBqx-CSyvvP8SD0/htmlview?pru=AAABeqibRYc*kMbyjeFqsiJc8T5ZlCIk7g#gid=337436127

[elder crane]

oh shit

aegir has a slow

[dull hollow]

does she have the cn text

for preload torp

[elder crane]

yep