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25 fp is not gold stat?
why is bad accuracy a bad thing here but a good thing in the case of belgun?
since its single shot u cant compare it to the likes of belgun
belgun fires in sets of triple
ah its the shot pattern
belgun is like a shotgun
3x1 with 0.3s VT
single 127 is like rambo machinegun
not rambo its slow
faster fire rate but trash acc
you cant
u get reduced dps 
It becomes z23
who says you can't
dd guns have generally more dps
and generally u want ur dd to fire more barrage than get higher gun dmg
I'm meaning IRL lol
LOL
stop changing context randomly
im not naval expert so even if u ask me i wont know
for CL vs CA it's gun caliber
but that's the only concrete one that I'm aware of lol
All of the above.
lmao
Lucker 
cringe
custom names are almost always cringy
https://puu.sh/EpKE0/6c808b22c5.png Belldandy though 👌
spicy
one time I found a 6-fleet of dark skinned girls
and they were all oathed
and they were all named "Chocolate"
sadly that was before I started taking screenshots
consolations
maxed best girl https://puu.sh/EpL4A/9f590293f6.png 👌
Formie is ready for that 9.79% HE reduction I regret using my plates for this
give her a rudder you madman
so u maxed nepnep
ahhh game being troll as usual
at least its bout time to say gud riddance to using ib cl 
idk, triple buffed kms vg was rather satisfying 
Hmm, maybe wishing not that much of a scam, got last ship today 
holy SHIT
Armour afaik still bugged?
Also pretty sure Formi flood has bugged duration like current fires
first time i saw a maxed avrora lol
Sometimes it ticks twice
But sometimes it ticks 3 times
I think if flood gets applied twice, rounding makes it 3 times
But single-flood only ticks twice
Avrora for buki buff 
big brain 
is 4 IJN ship to proc amagi passive worth it
big brain floating point errors
you use ijn ships cos they are broken
nagato amagi hiryuu yukikaze are already good by themselves
put them together and you have cancer
amagi passive is just a bonus cos of that
Baka works too, so more rng heavy
in en at least
5 months earlier
on weebu Naga was 1st
And KR just steamrolled everything, lol
Let's see how TW faring

But that publisher not some bs like KR
barrages are fun
If you don't use barrages u won't even win Enty 
enty 
just bomb her with the superior CV centaur

She’s reenacting the Bismarck fight 
hag is hag

so fleet tech really doesn't apply to def
and why is the bonus so low 
was expecting ~100

u barely get any stats from tech
what u expect to get bonus from
maybe w/ high lvl techs
With enough ships and mlbs you can gather some solid bonus
True
ships and mlb contribute to tech lvls
Each ship also gives a small bonus
it's applied in same tab
qeq

i got 6 4 5 2
next us lvl gives CV buffs
KMS lvl 3 tech can add significant number
Nanoda gets 103 hp from tech
what really
Almost
lol
I thought IJN and HMS was about the same as USS
nah
But USS is 600 ahead

t8 DDs 


I actually need 13 points for HMS lvl up, time to mlb something 
I actually never MLBed PoW 
been stuck at lb2 lvl 80 for almost a year now 
Ran into RedHeads https://i.imgur.com/jjxEaj7.jpg




lol, i just noticed roon and sanrui never learn preload torp or +1
Magamin keeps preload but loses +1 torp mount
on retro

Kitakaze also doesn't get +1 mount, but gets preload
is u-101 necessary for wolf pack
wolf pack is not necessary 
just gonna do u81 u47 and Iroha
just do triple crippling torpedoes
I like u-522 support skill when lvling subs or fleet w/ sub help
if anything
u-47 is just... weird buffer that is inconsistent to say the least
168
the swimsuit wearing one
surcouf retro
I'm just hoping that you didn't pull that from memory
is 56's yellow skill working on EN
that needs air superiority yea?
oh lol
she is op
that's more than double wolf pack buff
- crippling torps 12% damage
and they don't whiff that much
well, she is elite
makes up with buff
not like wolf pack can do better
uss bvarrage squad is fun too
double the gato

double the dakka
but yes, crippling fleet my fav
i find crippling slow torps more reliable at hitting too esp if enemy moves around fast
kms subs are ugly anyway
bound to run into torp

I don't like IJN subs design 🤢
kek
weird neko, weird oni
w0t
one day we'll get I-13
i-168 is weird oni

gonna stick with u81/47+iroha
i-13 is like... normal oni loli
also not in here
IJN only nation w/ 3 SRs so far too, and 1 being the only ssv
tho Surcoaf and others also have seaplanes

i like surcouf's range, it's just a square
instead of the weird ones
everyone else gets
surc barrage also targeted
like gun salvo
at least if enemy in firing range
it's fun shooting weekly boss
yeah
the most annoying thing when using nonUfleet subs imo is the subrange
the Usubs all have effectively like +1 to +2 additional levels range at the same range lv as other subs
I got 89 guy as 330 and not enough for bonus, ded 
iirc U87 has more range than I19 even if I19 has +1 rangelv over her iirc
also what the actual fucc, u caught up to me

generally you can estimate it by looking at 50-100 then extrapolating
bleh whatever
they're all the same to me 
u138575729864 < pick 2 or 3
kek
that's what I think of the numbers 
but yeah the extra range is super nice
and then you have surcouf, doesn't she have the worst range?
I might end up behind, lmao
id rather her shorter square than the gato ones
she is not meant for flag anyway
idk the gato ranges seem fine to me
i mean the shape
if you want wonky ranges the uboats have the funniest
U73 has bunny ears
lul
U-522 has her boomerang
U-556 gets stretched like taffey
U-557 gets stretched on the other diagonal
it's just the SR uboots that get normal ranges, yeah
well normal+ with how good they are
The paired ranges are always fun
like I-19/I-168, flipped vertically
i burned all
lol
owo
35% he damage is an amazing thing
NC not oathed
i got cintiq on list
sleepin 
when #pvp is so competitive that it is depend on how much a net you are and not on how good your comp or how much money you put into the game
quality content
id rather it be this than p2w
you wouldn't be beating the neet regardless of the system. 
not a good one

It's literally check the game like once every 20-30 mins
for ladder it doesn't mean anythin g u are neet or not
just whale for gear/chars and for pvp attempts


u can leave for few days and come back rank 1
time to fight with degens
its like how casuals think they could beat pro smash bros players if they turn on items and rando stages. nah, the pros would still beat you even with items lol.
it's about that in those ladders there no pro or noob input
P2W in those instances is an issue when it's equal skill
there no skill
If someone has all the best items in the game & is also pro against someone who doesn't
You have an edge
& that's just an example, AL pvp is pretty barebones
most games have auto pvp too
so there no even place to show "skill"
lmao
like in AL
Do you understand the example i'm making
Generalisation, not in relation to anything specific


I just check it whenever I can
i just check like 15-30 mins after reset and like 1 hr-30 before reset
also FGO takes most of the tiem for my phone


play on emu
i W
rk on it



Foreigner Hoku at 100, I had enough for only lvl90 for the Saber one

graveyard server
this season it's worse than usual tho
I don't like being really far ahead of people tbh
we killed Suruga and she killed exercise
I've lost a round due to waiting on people to push on my final match
I don't recognize anyone in my list

also I just slept some resets and didn't bother to wait for bonus

еир ш гыгфддн вщтэе умутк уфв тфьуы
tbh i usually don't even read names
or like not paying attention or remember if it's not some1 i know

I have my head inside spreadsheet... wait



you can get Kirishima in medal exchange right ?
medal exchange don't have ex-event perma ships
or didn't at least
same as event build pools



not even her base

tried w/ Italy event
dropped her since she was dying in d3
I should've wasted oil and time
for the 2 BPs
in Suruga raid


u have time
nah

im spamming 1200 comm trying to get cubes
qeq
heh
i got both subs from wishing already
so annoying the one that requer maps complet
what u even building
this is wishing spam
ye what u wish for
but u already got
If only Black Prince was available
yeah
ye
along with Bitchy
didn't hunt that one
at least she is light
light hell
Aurora came easily for me
still miss denver

Columbia only Cleve that matters 




too expensive 
phoenix exist
yeah
mahans are my go to 
phoenix retro when
I mean for clearing I just go with portland
it's really been a while since the last permanent skin
was that Centaur
hope that York is perma





but just remembered she has a skin

which is fucking limited too

pressured by deadlines


oh, i did it, got u-81

i just got bache
literally complete with all builds ships
im only missing 12~4
and im 100%
and monthly
its almost time 
ganbate
is that a challenge 
any ship i farmed dropped within a week at most
ive never touched 12~4
but for now
gotta keep oil

what's the point of sandbagging
I do not understand the 1000iq pvp strats
I haven't gotten past rank 2000 yet lmao
whatever you prefer
I mean sure I guess
Well you sandbag so people have to waste their change opponent bottom
Not only that
But if you're sandbagging
And they fight against you
THey'll get +9 in pvp points
instead of the usual +10
Which means if they get less points from pvp
There's a higher chance you'll get more than them
Or something like that

why is it 9 instead of 10
and also why does having a sandbagged defense fleet cause people to need to burn their new opponent button
Cuz they'll get a +9 instead of a +10
Every single point matters when you want top 10
Those spicy 2500 merits you get from being a "admiral of the navy" is nice as heck
does anyone know why it does +9 instead of +10 
You get a +9 because your score is higher than the opponent
I thought it was impossible for the game to put someone lower ranked than you in the leftmost slot
Once you go past captain it's in increments of 35
okay so how does sandbagging influence this
The lower down you are, means the higher others go
I was under the impression that your rank is based on the rank you get using your attack fleet
not the strength of your defense fleet
You basically wait for them to go to a point where you can gain points off them
While forcing other to wait until you get points
so the goal of sandbagging is to ensure that people can beat you?
and by extension get higher ranked than you so you can farm them
Earlier on it's smart to put an easier fleet on so people can get higher
Later you wanna slow people down so they might miss a match

Or potentially lose

If you verse someone 35 under or over you will gain a +1 or -1
Within that 35 is just base points at 10

Towards end of season, you gain per match 10+([their pts]-[yr pts])/35 ranking points per winning match, rounded down
So if they're even 1 pt lower you get +9 (a -1 relative to +10)
You need them to be 35 pts higher (lower requirement earlier in season) though for just a +11 (+1 relative to +10)
Incidentally that means they can be lower rank but same pt count, which still gives +10
lol
well, still 2400, not bad
3rd STAAG ready and i even don't have some1 to put in on in pvp 
time to get buki or sanrui to use
nah jun needs high dmg jun
ufo still better yea?
aurora also good eff and aa
but there just bofors
ibuki has typical bad ijn aa, sanrui is meh too, staag will do fine
need dat acc
Lul so we get 560 more data than we were supposed to get
we just get out 700
just bofors on yuki
isnt it better to just use staag for faster rld and more range
since her AA is sh*t
she has high reload tho, so will have more impact for slower gun and acc is pretty useless to her
bofors will give more burst damage too
that cooldown diff want make u shoot extra at planes
jun ufo rest 2 bofors
or staag if CA
looks pretty optimal
well that "burst" wont kill any plane also cos 75% eff
still more damage and not like u kill planes

bofors 24 damage more than staag
well on pve bbs probs
what better u gonna use unless it's SR USS BB
there u can slot ufo or something
non SR US bbs also succ at aa

only their high tech srs have good aa
Wasd wants to know ur location
i didnt level sd cos theres no wa
fw rererun when
well wash is outdated now anyways
just for collection
Actually, if we don't get fw rerun, it will be a lng while till we get em perma on EN or other ways around
But to get em perma they need to archive event
on CN
EN got nanoda after all w/ 1st archive

cucced JP
what’s the best comp to make out of monarch, kgv, formidable or centaur for pvp?
dump kgv
make monarch lead ship
treat formi and centy as kaga and akagi

put ykkz in frontline
or kgv
Actually was kgv cent formie best setup?
who tested mona even
huh?

Best waifu wins
last run and i get rainbow bos... 3 bps till 4th ryuu
but the droprate too poo
and magtorps farm soon 
Mona might kill mid faster with Cent backup + Formi on cudas etc
KGV setup kills VG faster

I just have mona setup for def atm
Also mona might kinda waste damage potential
I guess KGV Mona Cent deletes VG the most consistently if you have 2 nepguns

idk how this is still a debate
kgv literally has more dmg more consistent and tankier
I think kgv second salvo some seconds after aistrikes will be better to clear main flanks and if anything left alive of vg, while 1st early strike can assure airstrikes wipe vg, if it lands on vg some shots
esp if u use ryuu on 1 cv so main pressure of flag like mona can go to waste really
chicken fleet 
but kgv mona cent is up there also
Also, Formie utilizes own slow w/ ryuu rather good, when enemy is middle field, like on event hard
in pvp ofc distance too big
and if boss go in the back, like some

maybe its different cos of VG setups so i can only speak for what im using rn (jun/aur/ykkz)
so far its KFC > KMC > KQC from my tests with around 5-10% winrate differences
haven't tried other setups yet but is there any other setups worth testing 
when i find a worthy opponent

where's mikasa 
in TW server
yeah, but apparently they getting Mikasa
tbh i prefer quads on non dds, cause they might just not fire second salvo w/ quints. Nanoda is good w/ quints tho
tho buki will enjoy another quint prob
sanrui has no preload at all
so whatever
kms event rerun when
that's not rainbow quints though
that's quads
xD

and we had them in 2 events...
i ever got them from box during original spee run
never after that
still stuck w/ 2 quads
i only got 1 quad 1 quint from boxes
well gold quint is whatever
i only count gold quads


actually dc rerun shall be next assuming we never get re-rerun of fw
dc and amagi
spee was after both of them
also it's only event on cn outside mikasa who had re-rerun
mikasa had 2 re-reruns
60 SP3 runs of Spee for me and only 1 gold quad print, last time
I'm defs not farming it

Also we still don't have mikasa 
Inb4 Nagato and Amagi powercreeped by Musashi/Yamato before we get Mikasa
So the ships powercreeping Mikasa are powercreeped before Mikasa arrives 
Kill her viability deader
the thing she needs flag for half skills already killed her
She was good when first released, still
Since for IJN BB/BC the best you had was Yama/Fusou/Ise/Hyuuga
All of whom don't care about flag
yes, but we have nagato now
Yeah, hence her viability already dead
she just.. died
And even Amagi would muscle her out, pretty sure
tbh she has so trash stats, she is comparable to qe situation
Hence kill her deader if what powercreeped her viability gets in turn powercreeped
she gives buff, but she herself is like half boat
0 AA guns also 
+1 only applies to 1
3rd slot is just 1 gun
like seattle
or what was that pr bote
Seattle, yeah
Didn't know that
well, i think it doesn't apply to both slots
same like seattle
but not like that makes much diff
1 more dd mount
2 cl mounts already makes her worse than 3 cl ones
coal powah
Actually need to ask some jp pps if it applies to both slots
It's a reference to her being predreadnought
Primary, secondary, tertiary batteries
Before gun/gunnery tech became good enough that it was silly to do that anymore
well
I want my 8in secondary battery predreadnoughts
BB main gun CA secs CL/DD tertiary batteries 
Well you mean the planned ones
lol, i just seen few ryuuseis launch torps backwards from behind taihoe in 3 cv setup, probably due to single enemy and ammunition target bank limit. Like waiting till 1st torps hit enemy, only then locking on and launching 
Mikasa is getting retro?
yeah
ijn ur retro
It's about time she make to perma pool anyway, lol
She had 2 re-runs on cn
soon(tm)
SBD dauntless good?
not really, 5% cv damage isnt worth dropping the 2x500 to 2x100
maybe if it was like 15% cv damage
Depends hw long u've been away 
Stagnant meta, new HMS comp kinda
just got her
oh dope
yea i think so, what new good stuff came out?
So kinda can do 2 hms cv comp now
just PVP-related is fine
Formidable + Cent
and KGV/QE
or even mona
other than that. nothing much pvp related
well
for solo sure
what are tech points
mmm
and no new PVP gear?
fleet tech?
nah
only PR gear
well, we got Shells in core, but they are very situational
We got new Armor item this event, which is currently bugged. But it is supposed to change main fleet ships, aside CVLs and light armor ships, and CBs armor from med to Heavy
Waiting till it's fixed


















