#pvp

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midnight heron
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dats the only gun which has gold stats at purple

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and has a gold itself

still minnow
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25 fp is not gold stat?

blazing scroll
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I was thinking about the baguette gun too

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But that's 138mm

midnight heron
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its just 5fp above gold 127 double

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but has trash accuracy

blazing scroll
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I don't use the single 127mm anymore

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It does indeed spray everywhere

still minnow
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why is bad accuracy a bad thing here but a good thing in the case of belgun?

midnight heron
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since its single shot u cant compare it to the likes of belgun

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belgun fires in sets of triple

ionic magnet
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ah its the shot pattern

vague token
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belgun is like a shotgun

ionic magnet
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3x1 with 0.3s VT

vague token
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127 just shoots all over

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xD

midnight heron
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single 127 is like rambo machinegun

vague token
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na

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great russian CL gun

ionic magnet
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not rambo its slow

vague token
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is rambo machinegun

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i like using that thing on biscuit

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it's like a fake barrage

midnight heron
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faster fire rate but trash acc

still minnow
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what happens if you put 155mm guns on a destroyer

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does it become a light cruiser

ionic magnet
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you cant

midnight heron
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u get reduced dps BuckySmug

blazing scroll
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It becomes z23

still minnow
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who says you can't

ionic magnet
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dd guns have generally more dps

midnight heron
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and generally u want ur dd to fire more barrage than get higher gun dmg

still minnow
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I'm meaning IRL lol

ionic magnet
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LOL

midnight heron
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stop changing context randomly

still minnow
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well the previous time I mentioned it

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that was the only time ive done it

midnight heron
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im not naval expert so even if u ask me i wont know

still minnow
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lmao alright

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ill go to the

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channel

ionic magnet
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what even defines ship classes

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size? guns? speed? bust?

still minnow
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for CL vs CA it's gun caliber

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but that's the only concrete one that I'm aware of lol

hot creek
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All of the above.

midnight heron
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if i were to base it on ingame stats i wud say spd

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but eldridge lul

still minnow
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they don't know

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they have no idea

midnight heron
shy hazel
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heeeeeeu

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akun ampas

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zulul

ionic magnet
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lmao

hot creek
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Lucker UniGun

haughty flare
coral wren
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custom names are almost always cringy

hot creek
rustic fog
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spicy

still minnow
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one time I found a 6-fleet of dark skinned girls

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and they were all oathed

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and they were all named "Chocolate"

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sadly that was before I started taking screenshots

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consolations

hot creek
waxen dawn
hot creek
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lol I maxed the armor thing too

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maybe it will be useful on enty or essex

ionic magnet
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give her a rudder you madman

midnight heron
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so u maxed nepnep

midnight heron
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at least its bout time to say gud riddance to using ib cl MutsukiCurse

sharp wing
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idk, triple buffed kms vg was rather satisfying UniSip

sharp wing
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Hmm, maybe wishing not that much of a scam, got last ship today UniSip

covert aurora
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holy SHIT

elder crane
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Armour afaik still bugged?

covert aurora
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monarch just 100-0ed their main fleet

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rip for that lvl 120 enty

elder crane
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Also pretty sure Formi flood has bugged duration like current fires

ionic magnet
elder crane
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Sometimes it ticks twice
But sometimes it ticks 3 times

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I think if flood gets applied twice, rounding makes it 3 times
But single-flood only ticks twice

sharp wing
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Avrora for buki buff MakinaSmug

ionic magnet
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big brain BuckySmug

sharp wing
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and 4 boilers

covert aurora
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is 4 IJN ship to proc amagi passive worth it

waxen lion
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big brain floating point errors

ionic magnet
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you use ijn ships cos they are broken

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nagato amagi hiryuu yukikaze are already good by themselves

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put them together and you have cancer

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amagi passive is just a bonus cos of that

covert aurora
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need hiryuu then

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sorry monarch you were the best

sharp wing
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Baka works too, so more rng heavy

shy hazel
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In the beginning

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God made everything equal

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until nagato came

sharp wing
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1st was Amagi

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for EN

shy hazel
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in en at least

sharp wing
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5 months earlier

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on weebu Naga was 1st

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And KR just steamrolled everything, lol

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Let's see how TW faring

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But that publisher not some bs like KR

covert aurora
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barrages are fun

ionic magnet
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they are fun

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if they proc

sharp wing
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If you don't use barrages u won't even win Enty BuckySmug

covert aurora
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100-0 enty with 1 barrage

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naga barrage is a sight to behold

sharp wing
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maybe if underlvled

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no barrage can 1 hit 120 enty

ionic magnet
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enty UniYan
just bomb her with the superior CV centaur

sharp wing
past egret
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Centaur LaffeyDrink

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You mean free win

sharp wing
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lmao, hood just missed every barrage shot on 8-2 hm boss MakinaSmug She needs glasses

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old hag

past egret
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She’s reenacting the Bismarck fight BiskoLUL

ionic magnet
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treat your hag better

sharp wing
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hag is hag

trim horizon
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In an FGO discord

shy hazel
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infamous hoolooloo

meager dawn
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Weird looking nakaga

ionic magnet
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so fleet tech really doesn't apply to def

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and why is the bonus so low UniSip

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was expecting ~100

ripe latch
sharp wing
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u barely get any stats from tech

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what u expect to get bonus from

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maybe w/ high lvl techs

blazing scroll
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With enough ships and mlbs you can gather some solid bonus

sharp wing
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With high tech lvl ye

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not with 5-6

blazing scroll
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True

sharp wing
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ships and mlb contribute to tech lvls

blazing scroll
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Each ship also gives a small bonus

sharp wing
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it's applied in same tab

ionic magnet
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i only have 4 5 4 1

sharp wing
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qeq

blazing scroll
sharp wing
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i got 6 4 5 2

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next us lvl gives CV buffs

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KMS lvl 3 tech can add significant number

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Nanoda gets 103 hp from tech

ionic magnet
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wheres the real stella

sharp wing
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In pecoland

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nah

blazing scroll
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I'm at 7, 5, 5, 3 now

ionic magnet
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what really

trim horizon
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4/3/3/2

blazing scroll
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Almost

sharp wing
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lol

blazing scroll
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I thought IJN and HMS was about the same as USS

sharp wing
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nah

blazing scroll
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But USS is 600 ahead

sharp wing
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uss always kinda wins

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W/ all the fletchers alone BuckySmug

blazing scroll
sharp wing
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t8 DDs MakinaSmug

trim horizon
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my smoll factory can't go past lb0

blazing scroll
sharp wing
sharp wing
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I actually need 13 points for HMS lvl up, time to mlb something MutsukiHyperStare

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I actually never MLBed PoW AkagiLUL

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been stuck at lb2 lvl 80 for almost a year now EntyLUL

blazing scroll
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Imagine using PoW

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When in doubt use RngWink

sharp wing
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Well, she was shoved up our face as 1st event

blazing scroll
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Never used her tho

sharp wing
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At least she is useful as tech now

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gotta mlb when i manage to get 10k

coral wren
vague token
trim horizon
midnight heron
ripe latch
sharp wing
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lol, i just noticed roon and sanrui never learn preload torp or +1

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Magamin keeps preload but loses +1 torp mount

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on retro

ripe latch
sharp wing
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Kitakaze also doesn't get +1 mount, but gets preload

trim horizon
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is u-101 necessary for wolf pack

sharp wing
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wolf pack is not necessary BuckySmug

trim horizon
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burnable then

sharp wing
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She is just like wold pack buffer

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but it's just eva and damage to DDs and CLs

trim horizon
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just gonna do u81 u47 and Iroha

sharp wing
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just do triple crippling torpedoes

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I like u-522 support skill when lvling subs or fleet w/ sub help

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if anything

trim horizon
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I just want to use Iroha because voice

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others because good ships AkagiYan

sharp wing
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u-47 is just... weird buffer that is inconsistent to say the least

trim horizon
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en cucked from a skin yet again

sharp wing
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other than that it's 101 81 and 522

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basic fleet

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who is iroha again

trim horizon
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168

daring fractal
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the swimsuit wearing one

sharp wing
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168 19 56 crippling fleet

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with barrages

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and ijn subs are... thicc.. stats

trim horizon
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surcouf retro

sharp wing
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i-19 wearing school swimsuit too

daring fractal
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I'm just hoping that you didn't pull that from memory

sharp wing
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i'm looking at them

ionic magnet
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is 56's yellow skill working on EN

sharp wing
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yes

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it's broken atm, always trigger

ionic magnet
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that needs air superiority yea?

sharp wing
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100%

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yes

ionic magnet
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oh lol

sharp wing
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she is op

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that's more than double wolf pack buff

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  • crippling torps 12% damage
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and they don't whiff that much

ionic magnet
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yea but only 1 barrage tho

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unlike 168 and 19

sharp wing
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well, she is elite

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makes up with buff

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not like wolf pack can do better

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uss bvarrage squad is fun too

ionic magnet
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currently using those 3 ijns yea

sharp wing
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double the gato

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double the dakka

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but yes, crippling fleet my fav

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i find crippling slow torps more reliable at hitting too esp if enemy moves around fast

ionic magnet
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kms subs are ugly anyway

sharp wing
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bound to run into torp

ionic magnet
sharp wing
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well, actually

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101 73 522 are kinda appealing

trim horizon
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I don't like IJN subs design 🤢

sharp wing
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kinda meh

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esp SRs

ionic magnet
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kek

sharp wing
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weird neko, weird oni

daring fractal
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one day weird oni

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for en that is

sharp wing
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w0t

daring fractal
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one day we'll get I-13

sharp wing
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i-168 is weird oni

ripe latch
trim horizon
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gonna stick with u81/47+iroha

sharp wing
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i-13 is like... normal oni loli

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also not in here

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IJN only nation w/ 3 SRs so far too, and 1 being the only ssv

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tho Surcoaf and others also have seaplanes

vague token
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i like surcouf's range, it's just a square

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instead of the weird ones

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everyone else gets

sharp wing
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surc barrage also targeted

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like gun salvo

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at least if enemy in firing range

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it's fun shooting weekly boss

vague token
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it does a lot of damage

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xD

sharp wing
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yeah

trim horizon
sharp wing
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and it Burns

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metaslave

elder crane
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the most annoying thing when using nonUfleet subs imo is the subrange

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the Usubs all have effectively like +1 to +2 additional levels range at the same range lv as other subs

sharp wing
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I got 89 guy as 330 and not enough for bonus, ded UniSip

trim horizon
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should I tag the guy and ask his score

elder crane
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iirc U87 has more range than I19 even if I19 has +1 rangelv over her iirc

sharp wing
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also what the actual fucc, u caught up to me

trim horizon
elder crane
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generally you can estimate it by looking at 50-100 then extrapolating

vague token
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87?

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you mean 81 right?

elder crane
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bleh whatever

vague token
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xD

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was like i dont remember an 87

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had to check wiki

elder crane
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they're all the same to me BuckySmug
u138575729864 < pick 2 or 3

vague token
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kek

elder crane
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that's what I think of the numbers IseXD

vague token
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fair enough

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i dont understand why the gato ranges are so whacky

elder crane
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but yeah the extra range is super nice
and then you have surcouf, doesn't she have the worst range?

sharp wing
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I might end up behind, lmao

vague token
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id rather her shorter square than the gato ones

sharp wing
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she is not meant for flag anyway

vague token
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xD

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you look at cavalla and it's like what is going on here

elder crane
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idk the gato ranges seem fine to me

vague token
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i mean the shape

elder crane
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if you want wonky ranges the uboats have the funniest

vague token
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u81 has a nice simple rectangle

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that prioritizes down for w/e reason

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xD

elder crane
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U73 has bunny ears

vague token
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lul

elder crane
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U-522 has her boomerang

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U-556 gets stretched like taffey

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U-557 gets stretched on the other diagonal

vague token
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oh they are weird

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why is u-81 so straight forward

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xD

elder crane
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it's just the SR uboots that get normal ranges, yeah

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well normal+ with how good they are

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The paired ranges are always fun
like I-19/I-168, flipped vertically

vague token
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ugh, still so many tickets to burn through

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X_x

sharp wing
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i burned all

vague token
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i should have just paced a few of them every day

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instead of hoarding up to 60

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lol

sharp wing
vague token
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owo

sharp wing
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sanrui 11 lvls lower and dev 20 something

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still outdps

vague token
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35% he damage is an amazing thing

sharp wing
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even w/ 22% penalty

vague token
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when do we get an eagle CA pr boat =(

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or alaska

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ill take either

sharp wing
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We need Alaskas

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No need moar prs

vague token
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why not both?

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xD

sharp wing
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pr3 gonna be russians anyway

still minnow
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"Jelly bean" lmfaooo

trim horizon
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got Haloist in list again

sharp wing
trim horizon
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NC not oathed

sharp wing
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i got cintiq on list

trim horizon
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better flex cancer

sharp wing
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he has only 2 ships oathed BuckySmug

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i got cintiq on list

trim horizon
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sleepin AkachanSmug

sharp wing
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discord fail to send messages

trim horizon
shy hazel
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a

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a

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as expected im out this season

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missed some due to work apparently

sharp wing
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Loser.

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lol, when enty in her trip outfit dies, her cap falls off

finite valve
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when #pvp is so competitive that it is depend on how much a net you are and not on how good your comp or how much money you put into the game

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quality content

vague token
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id rather it be this than p2w

sharp wing
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I'm playing another game, where pvp is just exp source, no currency

hot creek
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you wouldn't be beating the neet regardless of the system. BuckySmug

trim horizon
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not a good one

empty grove
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PVP requires effort?

sharp wing
empty grove
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It's literally check the game like once every 20-30 mins

sharp wing
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for ladder it doesn't mean anythin g u are neet or not

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just whale for gear/chars and for pvp attempts

dusk stirrup
sharp wing
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u can leave for few days and come back rank 1

ripe latch
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time to fight with degens

hot creek
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its like how casuals think they could beat pro smash bros players if they turn on items and rando stages. nah, the pros would still beat you even with items lol.

sharp wing
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it's about that in those ladders there no pro or noob input

empty grove
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P2W in those instances is an issue when it's equal skill

sharp wing
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there no skill

empty grove
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If someone has all the best items in the game & is also pro against someone who doesn't

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You have an edge

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& that's just an example, AL pvp is pretty barebones

sharp wing
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most games have auto pvp too

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so there no even place to show "skill"

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lmao

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like in AL

empty grove
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Do you understand the example i'm making

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Generalisation, not in relation to anything specific

trim horizon
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still 5 behind

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im truly a casual

sharp wing
trim horizon
sharp wing
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time to sleep on reset

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I'll give you a handicap

trim horizon
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phoenix is 6 pts ahead

sharp wing
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qeq

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well, i don't check pvp every hr, lol

trim horizon
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I just check it whenever I can

sharp wing
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i just check like 15-30 mins after reset and like 1 hr-30 before reset

trim horizon
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also FGO takes most of the tiem for my phone

sharp wing
trim horizon
sharp wing
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play on emu

trim horizon
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i W GWjiangoOmegaLUL rk on it

sharp wing
empty grove
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Grailled Hokusai

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Cultured

trim horizon
onyx hollow
trim horizon
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Foreigner Hoku at 100, I had enough for only lvl90 for the Saber one

empty grove
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I'm gonna die when she releases on EN

trim horizon
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when EN will be able to go past bond 10

empty grove
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I'll finally start using my own waver again

trim horizon
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imagine not having 2 waver

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SQ factory

empty grove
sharp wing
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Got rank 8 still not enough points PortDoll

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time to AkashiSleep

trim horizon
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graveyard server

sharp wing
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graveyard season

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both

trim horizon
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tbh every time it hits 2nd week

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it's just like this

sharp wing
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this season it's worse than usual tho

empty grove
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I don't like being really far ahead of people tbh

trim horizon
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we killed Suruga and she killed exercise

empty grove
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I've lost a round due to waiting on people to push on my final match

sharp wing
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She is still being raeped

empty grove
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Since like 10-15 people can give you base points

trim horizon
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||hoping Skadi is in the new year banner||

sharp wing
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Oh boi he pu8shed R1 MakinaSmug

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time to yeet

trim horizon
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I don't recognize anyone in my list

sharp wing
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same

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random low lvl foodie

trim horizon
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one pushed a little bit

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I think he has 3/2 tickets

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that 138pts start is showing

sharp wing
trim horizon
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also I just slept some resets and didn't bother to wait for bonus

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еир ш гыгфддн вщтэе умутк уфв тфьуы

sharp wing
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tbh i usually don't even read names

trim horizon
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If im not completely dozing off I usually check

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but lately im getting new names

sharp wing
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or like not paying attention or remember if it's not some1 i know

trim horizon
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So i just wait till the last hour

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I have my spreadsheet inside my head

sharp wing
trim horizon
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If exercise doesn't completely die till xmas holidays

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I'll try to hit 260x

sharp wing
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I have my head inside spreadsheet... wait

trim horizon
sharp wing
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see u 2k30

trim horizon
sharp wing
vague token
trim horizon
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you can get Kirishima in medal exchange right ?

sharp wing
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medal exchange don't have ex-event perma ships

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or didn't at least

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same as event build pools

trim horizon
sharp wing
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U sold her or what

trim horizon
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I mean

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elite lvl70

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reason why I didn't buy her skin

sharp wing
trim horizon
sharp wing
trim horizon
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why are they making skins for foodies

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they made me want York

sharp wing
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U are foodie

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I have york retro

trim horizon
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not even her base

sharp wing
trim horizon
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tried w/ Italy event

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dropped her since she was dying in d3

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I should've wasted oil and time

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for the 2 BPs

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in Suruga raid

sharp wing
trim horizon
sharp wing
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u have time

trim horizon
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nah

sharp wing
trim horizon
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Thise one popped

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might go to AkashiSleep

sharp wing
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i dun have creds for those

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i did 3 map projects today

trim horizon
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im spamming 1200 comm trying to get cubes

sharp wing
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qeq

trim horizon
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heh

sharp wing
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i got both subs from wishing already

trim horizon
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so annoying the one that requer maps complet

sharp wing
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around 30 pulls w/ dailies

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that bunny sub is really useless tho

trim horizon
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I don't evne bother raising subs w/ commission

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bad foods

sharp wing
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i raise them to 100 aff

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after 90 aff as sec

trim horizon
sharp wing
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what u even building

trim horizon
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this is wishing spam

sharp wing
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ye what u wish for

trim horizon
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centaur and u-81

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but u-81 was a mistake

sharp wing
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but u already got

trim horizon
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she made go 50%50% the SSR pull

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and despite that

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I got Takao and Belfast

sharp wing
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i got prinz and something else

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while hunting u-81

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but there were few pulls

trim horizon
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If only Black Prince was available

sharp wing
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i got her from rate up

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Did she have one?

trim horizon
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yeah

sharp wing
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ye

trim horizon
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along with Bitchy

sharp wing
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didn't hunt that one

trim horizon
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at least she is light

sharp wing
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light hell

trim horizon
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can simply do the daily

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got Belfast this a day ago

sharp wing
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I still see nightmares of Aurora

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and my 800 cubes

trim horizon
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Aurora came easily for me

sharp wing
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still miss denver

trim horizon
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denver

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burned

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uselessland

sharp wing
trim horizon
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If only I hadn't spent chips and book on Cleve she too

sharp wing
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Columbia only Cleve that matters UniSip

trim horizon
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yeah

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raised Mont only because she's the best one

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but Columbia best Lad

sharp wing
trim horizon
sharp wing
trim horizon
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raised with no love

sharp wing
trim horizon
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just fodder

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with no light

sharp wing
trim horizon
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I have lot of failed ship

sharp wing
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A fail of a shitkican

past egret
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I felt that Minneapolis one

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Raised her to and never used her

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Shame

trim horizon
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I tried to

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but then dropped

sharp wing
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too expensive PortDoll

trim horizon
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(love)

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I mean

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sisconland exist

sharp wing
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phoenix exist

trim horizon
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yeah

sharp wing
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mahans are my go to MakinaSmug

trim horizon
vague token
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phoenix retro when

trim horizon
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I mean for clearing I just go with portland

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it's really been a while since the last permanent skin

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was that Centaur

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hope that York is perma

sharp wing
trim horizon
sharp wing
trim horizon
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need to retrieve a Sussex

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burned idk how many

sharp wing
trim horizon
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but just remembered she has a skin

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which is fucking limited too

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pressured by deadlines

coral wren
rustic fog
vague token
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oh, i did it, got u-81

ionic magnet
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got 4th i-19 just now

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what a scam

shy hazel
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i just got bache

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literally complete with all builds ships

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im only missing 12~4

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and im 100%

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and monthly

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its almost time PecoWant

smoky elk
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DorkHeart ganbate

rustic fog
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Pog

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Gl

shy hazel
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is that a challenge PecoWant

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any ship i farmed dropped within a week at most

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ive never touched 12~4

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but for now

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gotta keep oil

still minnow
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is this all that pvp is

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people with meme defense fleets

rustic fog
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Sandbagging is everywhere

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They want top 10

still minnow
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what's the point of sandbagging

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I do not understand the 1000iq pvp strats

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I haven't gotten past rank 2000 yet lmao

rustic fog
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ah

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Want a short explanation for how it works?

still minnow
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whatever you prefer

rustic fog
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I mean sure I guess

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Well you sandbag so people have to waste their change opponent bottom

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Not only that

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But if you're sandbagging

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And they fight against you

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THey'll get +9 in pvp points

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instead of the usual +10

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Which means if they get less points from pvp

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There's a higher chance you'll get more than them

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Or something like that

still minnow
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why is it 9 instead of 10

rustic fog
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Tbh I have no idea how pvp works

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But it works like that

still minnow
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and also why does having a sandbagged defense fleet cause people to need to burn their new opponent button

rustic fog
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Cuz they'll get a +9 instead of a +10

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Every single point matters when you want top 10

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Those spicy 2500 merits you get from being a "admiral of the navy" is nice as heck

still minnow
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does anyone know why it does +9 instead of +10 UniHurt

blazing scroll
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You get a +9 because your score is higher than the opponent

still minnow
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I thought it was impossible for the game to put someone lower ranked than you in the leftmost slot

blazing scroll
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Unless you're in top100

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Then it can happen

empty grove
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Once you go past captain it's in increments of 35

still minnow
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okay so how does sandbagging influence this

empty grove
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The lower down you are, means the higher others go

still minnow
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I was under the impression that your rank is based on the rank you get using your attack fleet

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not the strength of your defense fleet

empty grove
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You basically wait for them to go to a point where you can gain points off them

blazing scroll
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While forcing other to wait until you get points

still minnow
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so the goal of sandbagging is to ensure that people can beat you?

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and by extension get higher ranked than you so you can farm them

empty grove
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Earlier on it's smart to put an easier fleet on so people can get higher

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Later you wanna slow people down so they might miss a match

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Or potentially lose

blazing scroll
empty grove
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If you verse someone 35 under or over you will gain a +1 or -1

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Within that 35 is just base points at 10

shy hazel
elder crane
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Towards end of season, you gain per match 10+([their pts]-[yr pts])/35 ranking points per winning match, rounded down
So if they're even 1 pt lower you get +9 (a -1 relative to +10)
You need them to be 35 pts higher (lower requirement earlier in season) though for just a +11 (+1 relative to +10)
Incidentally that means they can be lower rank but same pt count, which still gives +10

sharp wing
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lol, double mail

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back to 3k core

ionic magnet
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nah first one is bugged

sharp wing
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no

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I had 1700 core

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after 2 mails back to 3k

ionic magnet
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try to restart your game

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it will poof

sharp wing
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lol

ionic magnet
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and you cant buy anything with it

sharp wing
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well, still 2400, not bad

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3rd STAAG ready and i even don't have some1 to put in on in pvp MakinaSmug

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time to get buki or sanrui to use

shy hazel
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im more like wha

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i got my 3rd staag ages ago

ionic magnet
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not sure if i should use staag on VGs

sharp wing
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on CAs sure

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esp buki for torps acc

ionic magnet
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on CLs

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jun aurora

sharp wing
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nah jun needs high dmg jun

ionic magnet
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ufo still better yea?

sharp wing
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aurora also good eff and aa

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but there just bofors

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ibuki has typical bad ijn aa, sanrui is meh too, staag will do fine

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need dat acc

midnight heron
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Lul so we get 560 more data than we were supposed to get

sharp wing
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we just get out 700

ionic magnet
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hmm i'll settle with ufo for jun/aurora i guess

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then staag on yuki/kgv ThinkZed

sharp wing
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just bofors on yuki

ionic magnet
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isnt it better to just use staag for faster rld and more range

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since her AA is sh*t

sharp wing
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she has high reload tho, so will have more impact for slower gun and acc is pretty useless to her

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bofors will give more burst damage too

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that cooldown diff want make u shoot extra at planes

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jun ufo rest 2 bofors

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or staag if CA

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looks pretty optimal

ionic magnet
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well that "burst" wont kill any plane also cos 75% eff

sharp wing
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still more damage and not like u kill planes

ionic magnet
sharp wing
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bofors 24 damage more than staag

ionic magnet
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ok just bofors then

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so i can use staag on pve

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pve omegalul

sharp wing
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well on pve bbs probs

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what better u gonna use unless it's SR USS BB

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there u can slot ufo or something

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non SR US bbs also succ at aa

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only their high tech srs have good aa

ionic magnet
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i dont have any US BB at lv 100

midnight heron
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Wasd wants to know ur location

ionic magnet
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i didnt level sd cos theres no wa

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fw rererun when

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well wash is outdated now anyways

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just for collection

sharp wing
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Actually, if we don't get fw rerun, it will be a lng while till we get em perma on EN or other ways around

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But to get em perma they need to archive event

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on CN

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EN got nanoda after all w/ 1st archive

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cucced JP

sharp wing
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Someone really love their mommies

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I already see 120 NamaHoes

white granite
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what’s the best comp to make out of monarch, kgv, formidable or centaur for pvp?

shy hazel
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dump kgv

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make monarch lead ship

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treat formi and centy as kaga and akagi

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put ykkz in frontline

sharp wing
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or kgv

shy hazel
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maybe with sirius

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and 100% jun

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done

sharp wing
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Actually was kgv cent formie best setup?

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who tested mona even

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huh?

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Best waifu wins

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last run and i get rainbow bos... 3 bps till 4th ryuu

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but the droprate too poo

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and magtorps farm soon PortDoll

stark raft
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Mona might kill mid faster with Cent backup + Formi on cudas etc

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KGV setup kills VG faster

trim horizon
sharp wing
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kgv more survivable tho?

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vg and main preference in damage is obvious

stark raft
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I just have mona setup for def atm

sharp wing
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Also mona might kinda waste damage potential

stark raft
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I guess KGV Mona Cent deletes VG the most consistently if you have 2 nepguns

ionic magnet
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idk how this is still a debate

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kgv literally has more dmg more consistent and tankier

stark raft
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yeah I'd say go KGV + formi cent

sharp wing
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I think kgv second salvo some seconds after aistrikes will be better to clear main flanks and if anything left alive of vg, while 1st early strike can assure airstrikes wipe vg, if it lands on vg some shots

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esp if u use ryuu on 1 cv so main pressure of flag like mona can go to waste really

ionic magnet
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chicken fleet UniFlex

sharp wing
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KFC

ionic magnet
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but kgv mona cent is up there also

sharp wing
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Also, Formie utilizes own slow w/ ryuu rather good, when enemy is middle field, like on event hard

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in pvp ofc distance too big

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and if boss go in the back, like some

trim horizon
ionic magnet
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maybe its different cos of VG setups so i can only speak for what im using rn (jun/aur/ykkz)
so far its KFC > KMC > KQC from my tests with around 5-10% winrate differences
haven't tried other setups yet but is there any other setups worth testing ThinkZed

sharp wing
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what about KMQ

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lack of barrager or cv pressure

ionic magnet
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yea

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well

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might as well try for a bit

sharp wing
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Lool, we get summer set in October

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legit

ionic magnet
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when i find a worthy opponent

sharp wing
ionic magnet
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where's mikasa UniSip

trim horizon
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in TW server

ionic magnet
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isnt that server new?

trim horizon
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yeah, but apparently they getting Mikasa

finite valve
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new server with a brand new yama skin right off the bat

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quality

sharp wing
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and new dorm

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chinatown something

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They can put mikasa up during spee

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but

ionic magnet
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well they said its on oct

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so prolly oct 31

finite valve
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i am more interest in quint rainbow for DC anyway

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need dem for pvp

sharp wing
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tbh i prefer quads on non dds, cause they might just not fire second salvo w/ quints. Nanoda is good w/ quints tho

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tho buki will enjoy another quint prob

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sanrui has no preload at all

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so whatever

waxen lion
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kms event rerun when

sharp wing
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after maint

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spee rerun

waxen lion
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that's not rainbow quints though

sharp wing
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that's quads

ionic magnet
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cant wait to farm quads

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and see how sh*t the rates are

sharp wing
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xD

ionic magnet
sharp wing
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i got 6/10

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or 6/15

ionic magnet
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yea same

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dont remember how many runs i did tho

sharp wing
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and we had them in 2 events...

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i ever got them from box during original spee run

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never after that

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still stuck w/ 2 quads

ionic magnet
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i only got 1 quad 1 quint from boxes

sharp wing
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well gold quint is whatever

ionic magnet
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meanwhile i see some ppl with 6-7 mag torps

sharp wing
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i only count gold quads

trim horizon
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Free Elite to chicken feed

sharp wing
ionic magnet
sharp wing
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actually dc rerun shall be next assuming we never get re-rerun of fw

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dc and amagi

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spee was after both of them

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also it's only event on cn outside mikasa who had re-rerun

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mikasa had 2 re-reruns

elder crane
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60 SP3 runs of Spee for me and only 1 gold quad print, last time

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I'm defs not farming it

ionic magnet
sharp wing
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happens each event to me BuckySmug

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I usually farm 1 event gear per 60k score

elder crane
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Also we still don't have mikasa IseXD

sharp wing
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that's funny ye...

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Probably waiting when JP gets Kai w/ re-rerun

elder crane
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Inb4 Nagato and Amagi powercreeped by Musashi/Yamato before we get Mikasa

sharp wing
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Let's see what Miksa kai looks like

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but i don't expect anything

elder crane
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So the ships powercreeping Mikasa are powercreeped before Mikasa arrives BuckySmug

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Kill her viability deader

sharp wing
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the thing she needs flag for half skills already killed her

elder crane
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She was good when first released, still
Since for IJN BB/BC the best you had was Yama/Fusou/Ise/Hyuuga

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All of whom don't care about flag

sharp wing
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yes, but we have nagato now

elder crane
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Yeah, hence her viability already dead

sharp wing
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she just.. died

elder crane
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And even Amagi would muscle her out, pretty sure

sharp wing
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tbh she has so trash stats, she is comparable to qe situation

elder crane
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Hence kill her deader if what powercreeped her viability gets in turn powercreeped

sharp wing
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she gives buff, but she herself is like half boat

elder crane
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0 AA guns also MakinaSmug

sharp wing
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yeah well

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2 aux guns MakinaSmug

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I mean she has 5.3k hp at 120 and fp os Hood

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like really

elder crane
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Wait doesn't she have 4 aux

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Just 2 CL 2 DD

sharp wing
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+1 only applies to 1

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3rd slot is just 1 gun

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like seattle

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or what was that pr bote

elder crane
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Seattle, yeah
Didn't know that

sharp wing
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well, i think it doesn't apply to both slots

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same like seattle

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but not like that makes much diff

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1 more dd mount

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2 cl mounts already makes her worse than 3 cl ones

waxen lion
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coal powah

sharp wing
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Actually need to ask some jp pps if it applies to both slots

elder crane
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It's a reference to her being predreadnought
Primary, secondary, tertiary batteries
Before gun/gunnery tech became good enough that it was silly to do that anymore

sharp wing
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well

elder crane
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I want my 8in secondary battery predreadnoughts
BB main gun CA secs CL/DD tertiary batteries BuckySmug

sharp wing
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And pre washington treaty

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bic guns

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Also... Yamato gun...

elder crane
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Well you mean the planned ones

sharp wing
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who even cares about treaty

sharp wing
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lol, i just seen few ryuuseis launch torps backwards from behind taihoe in 3 cv setup, probably due to single enemy and ammunition target bank limit. Like waiting till 1st torps hit enemy, only then locking on and launching SpeeThink

past egret
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Mikasa is getting retro?

sharp wing
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yeah

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ijn ur retro

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It's about time she make to perma pool anyway, lol

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She had 2 re-runs on cn

vague token
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soon(tm)

real notch
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SBD dauntless good?

vague token
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not really, 5% cv damage isnt worth dropping the 2x500 to 2x100

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maybe if it was like 15% cv damage

real notch
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aite

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i might get back into AL

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what did i miss

sharp wing
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Depends hw long u've been away BuckySmug

trim horizon
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Stagnant meta, new HMS comp kinda

real notch
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is hiryuu kai out

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idk

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about 2 months

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or 1

sharp wing
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just got her

real notch
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oh dope

sharp wing
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You missed Italy event?

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We got new HMS CV

real notch
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yea i think so, what new good stuff came out?

sharp wing
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So kinda can do 2 hms cv comp now

real notch
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just PVP-related is fine

sharp wing
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Formidable + Cent

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and KGV/QE

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or even mona

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other than that. nothing much pvp related

real notch
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damn, just read formidable

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that's a dank ass new ship

sharp wing
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well

real notch
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centaur is still better right?

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because CVL?

sharp wing
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for solo sure

real notch
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what are tech points

sharp wing
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mmm

real notch
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and no new PVP gear?

sharp wing
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fleet tech?

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nah

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only PR gear

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well, we got Shells in core, but they are very situational

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We got new Armor item this event, which is currently bugged. But it is supposed to change main fleet ships, aside CVLs and light armor ships, and CBs armor from med to Heavy

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Waiting till it's fixed

real notch
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oshit

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event ends tomorrow right

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how do i get the armor