pvp

[hot creek]

this event has allowed me to finally train my foxes in 1:1 fleets while farming T3 plates and bofors prints.

[azure aurora]

This event is good for belgun

Amagi really surprise me with her ability to eq CL gun

[ivory vine]

i think all ijn bc can

but no one knows this cuz kongou class are shit

[azure aurora]

No ijn bc in en till now

[ivory vine]

yeah but even when they come out no one uses them

[azure aurora]

Washington, amagi , hyuuga, do people really need more bb ?

Battleship

[ivory vine]

there is no shortage of good bb in this game for sure

[azure aurora]

We lack good CA

[shell helm]

yorkai worth ?

[foggy token]

no

meme ca

[azure aurora]

People in help say Suffolk better

[shell helm]

i see her skills looks gud on paper xD

[foggy token]

both belong in the category of no mgm+1 🚮

people need to find better arguments

[azure aurora]

We need Portland kai

[ivory vine]

york would be good with mgm+1 but nope

secondary gun buff lul

[shell helm]

lel

[foggy token]

imo yorkai>suffolk kai cuz yorkai legs

[azure aurora]

Sorry, superior meido race say nope

[foggy token]

omae wa mou shindeiru

[azure aurora]

Nani

[shell helm]

[serene knot]

Where is the Frontline meta going? Is Belfast and Eldredge still a good investment for times to come? Got a few purins to use

[charred sable]

So many Amagi avatars now

[modern tree]

belfast is forever good

and peopole put her as secretary for affection gain prolly

shes also fucking adorable

[charred sable]

Belfast provides a consistent supply of Royal Milk

[serene knot]

Hahahaha nice

Just read that the eldridge meta isn't that strong or won't be so strong anymore

[modern tree]

dunno how good eldridge is or will be, fox are due for resurgence and Aurora exists

[serene knot]

Hmmm aurora counters foxes?

[modern tree]

Helps foxes deal a lot of damage

[serene knot]

Oh

[modern tree]

and also makes Eldridge not live long enough to even use her skill

[serene knot]

Makes sense. Interesting

[azure aurora]

Eldridge is out of meta when E dissapear

[serene knot]

Will it? D:

[azure aurora]

Not soon

But will

And belfast is out when foxes dissapear

But since foxes still legit in CN out of question

[slow totem]

But you know who'll stay?

♿ Jesus ♿

[azure aurora]

Jesus

Is 406 good for amagi? 4 ijn mode

[modern tree]

possibly

the dps difference between 410 and 406 is not that huge but considering you get your first shot REALLY fast and dead enemies cant hurt you, getting this extra damage in early might be viable

[azure aurora]

And spread

[modern tree]

Shes a barrage boat tho so it really depends on how fight play out

[azure aurora]

Is amagi barrage will evolved when i lv up her skill ?

[modern tree]

yes, lvl 8 is the final form, lvl 9 and 10 is bonus damage

[azure aurora]

Oh thats why

[slow totem]

THIS IS NOT EVEN MY FINAL FORM

[azure aurora]

At lv 5 her barrage just straight line

[slow totem]

Barrages really scale with levels

Unlike Renown's skill

[azure aurora]

Renown? New ship ?

[slow totem]

Level 1: 10%
Level 10: 15%

Wtf Yostar

[velvet fossil]

[slow totem]

searchal Renown

[hidden wyvern]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go&search=Renown

[slow totem]

No, Saber

[azure aurora]

AL really hate that colab ship

[slow totem]

She hits as hard as Tirp when maxed

But still

That scaling is BS

[azure aurora]

0,5 % / lv ?

[modern tree]

doesnt that stack infinitely? They couldnt make it too good

like seriously

[slow totem]

No. Just once.

But 0.5% per level

[azure aurora]

Hey she pretty good, at least you don't need books for her

[slow totem]

200 IQ!!!

[azure aurora]

5% for 17books ? Nope

Wow lowest tier bb

Oh bc

[slow totem]

Repulse is lowest. Can't argue with that.

[azure aurora]

Why they do that? Is her stat not good ?

[modern tree]

Renown is not super good, no. BCs have a big problem with either being obnoxious like Hood and Amagi or barely alive like Repulse

[slow totem]

Repulse?

Renown is discount Tirp.

and Saber

[azure aurora]

And somehow shark sister mid tier

[modern tree]

Well, statline is weak, ability is weak, auxiliary gun is a DD gun and not a CL gun, medium armour, list goes on

[slow totem]

Skill is actually good

[modern tree]

not on Repulse

[slow totem]

Better than Yamashiro's

Oh Repulse

RIP

[modern tree]

Ripulse

[azure aurora]

Need retro for her

[modern tree]

let me boost my 90 reload by 40% after I get hit

[azure aurora]

Our first bc

[slow totem]

Retro skill makes her load main gun instantly after taking damage

🤘

[modern tree]

just make her reload skill 200% like Laffey, what can go wrong

[azure aurora]

Or invicible for 15 sec and shot new salvo

[slow totem]

"HiryuuKai, but BC."

[azure aurora]

[hot creek]

damn i just realized this whole time my eldridge isn't even max enhanced....https://puu.sh/CvvmA/8e994f4508.png

she's lvl 100 and i've been using her in pvp for months now

[slow totem]

Shikikan. Dako.

[gilded atlas]

wow Amagi's barrage can hit enemy VG

if they are in center

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/CvwAe/b85e8ca3c7.png look who i found. x4 SGs I see

guess I better do the same or my BBs won't hit shit

[modern tree]

I dont even need to flex my fleet because you post it every time you find me

[hot creek]

I always get excited when I find someone familiar. Back when I played KC I was a lonely boi in pvp because everyone on discord was on a different server.

how many points are you at btw?

My Hood failed to proc twice in a row while yours proc'd just fine NotLikeThis

thats okay though. I might not have RNGJesus on my side but I have the power of Juneausus

[modern tree]

1169

[hot creek]

im at 1170 wew.

so even if you did the rest of your minimum of three battles I wouldn't be able to get a bonus off you feelsbadman

[modern tree]

I have 7 charges

[hot creek]

woah

I assumed you had 8 cause thats what I have currently lmao

[modern tree]

I didnt have time to farm, job is kicking my ass

[slow totem]

IRL always get in the way of waifus.

[hot creek]

I see. Well, at least you have your priorities straight.

[modern tree]

na, I can buy all the rings I want thanks to it, bless irl

I mean, you can compare your stats to mine and reconsider what you just said lmao

[hot creek]

Well, I'm not exactly saying that you don't play a lot but just giving props that you know job is more important than sandbagging pvp lol

[modern tree]

if I lived in a little bit different timezone I'd have easier time doing it despite my job, but last reset happens at 3am so rip

[hot creek]

yeah that's rough.

[slow totem]

Me too.

Feels+7UTCman

[modern tree]

CET is fine for everything except for farming pvp, I get reset at 9am and night commisions for my workday when I dont really have time to play anyways. Its just the 3am last reset

[slow totem]

I have a reset at 3 AM too, big yikes for that, ye,

Can’t be helped, a server has to be based somewhere lol.

[hot creek]

I'm lucky to be PST. Also basically a NEET right now so yeah....lol

[modern tree]

yeah, I think I like it this way, honestly. It could be much worse. Only way to "fix" it would make to split people by continents and set the timers for them so everyone is offset by like 2-3 hours not up to 12, but thats probably just pointless

[hot creek]

time sheningans get really icky when programming it. remember when they tried adjusting DST?

they ended up reverting it back and never even bothering to try again haha

[subtle whale]

yeah time is tricky

[sour oasis]

Dumb obaervation I'm getting; I am about 100 pts off from the top-10 pvp... And I'm 2000 places down. There's no way I can break into the top 1000 unless someone falls asleep for days am I right?

Because the best victory bonus I can get is maybe +2 or +3 (12 or 13 points) and the higher I go the less of a bonus I'll get.

[nova storm]

You might be able to snipe a top 1000 or higher if you can immediately use all 5 Exercise points after it is given.. Otherwise, probably not.

[sour oasis]

Ok. Thanks. Guess this means I have to be more careful next cycle if I want to break into top-1000.

PVP is kinda its own game (at least on the crowded Avorra server)

[nova storm]

That's the best thing to do if you're down points and want to get a threshold. It's like giving yourself a pseudo-advantage cause not everyone else has attacked yet 😃

[sour oasis]

Well, the reward thresholds are top-100 or better right? This is just me seeing if I can enter a better x,000 rank than last time. I was stuck at 3,000 on day 14 for a long time.

[strange patrol]

;-; they are so beautiful

Pool oh fluff and the thot sleeping ;-;

Love how amavi has her ears relaxed it’s adorable at the same time looks like she’s gonna kill phynix for not being flufffy

[pastel forge]

I believe you've come to the wrong channel my friend. #dorm is next door

[urban coral]

I was confused too

[sour oasis]

[slow totem]

Maybe he does PvP in dorms.

[urban coral]

that'd be a lot of gems for repair costs

[strange patrol]

:3 yes much pvp on the dorm

Just look at the name

[slow totem]

....

🏩

Can’t believe Discoed has an emote specifically designed for Love Hotel

[strange patrol]

ONG THEY DO HAHA

and naw that’s my pvp team currently, tacos with foxes

Smacking the crap out of HMS and I don’t even have a defensive team buff lol

[modern tree]

who plays hms

[strange patrol]

Pfft you

[modern tree]

its been a thousand years since I've seen an HMS using oppontnt in pvp

[sour oasis]

🏩 🏨 🛁

I saw 5

HMS still around in the 2000-3000's

[strange patrol]

I’m currently in rear admiral, I was worried about hood but pppppfffffttttttttt

[sour oasis]

For how long will you be admiral?

[nova storm]

I'm playing HMS cause I'm lazy to change it 😃 It's free win..

[strange patrol]

Taco,Ataco,DDkaga,Amagi,lusty,akagi

[sour oasis]

I still need more gold to +10 my equips so I can win against foxes..

[strange patrol]

My team is lvl70-92

[sour oasis]

DDkaga?

[strange patrol]

And only have. A few gold gear that’s not even maxed out

I’ve not had any issues with wasd teams

Lusty buff strong 💪

[modern tree]

taking less damage when you are already tanky is pretty goooood

[sour oasis]

I've got Taco/Laffy/Belfast. I want to build up Eld/Eugen for sandbagging.

[modern tree]

I am concerned for HMS on EN

[strange patrol]

I want to replace lusty but she is my only surv buff to the team

[modern tree]

hoods acc is alredy poor base, then you slap a flat evasion rate and take no damage

[strange patrol]

I would probably lose to wasd if I remove lusty

If peeps started using more AP and Les HE my team would probably fall apart

[sour oasis]

Who is DDkaga?

[strange patrol]

Event girl, she still let’s akagi get her passive

And has a crazy torp skill

[sour oasis]

I thought that was BBkaga?

[modern tree]

I always, always fail to see how 6 seconds of about a toolbox worth of HP makes a difference in pvp but a friend I have that hangs around low ranks also tells me Illustrous is what makes him win

rather bizarre

[strange patrol]

It’s the 320 flat hp that peeps like

I think

I always get told to stack toolboxes

[sour oasis]

Wait. In JP Kaga will be a DD?

[strange patrol]

No I’m talking about the new one BBkaga, she has both a string barrage and a torp skill

[sour oasis]

But that makes your backline as 4.

[strange patrol]

Switch for lusty

[sour oasis]

Akagi. Amagi. Lusty. BBkaga

[strange patrol]

Read my friend

[sour oasis]

And your front is two. Taco and Ataco

[strange patrol]

Correct cuz I dont have a set third

[sour oasis]

Taco,Ataco,DDkaga,Amagi,lusty,akagi

[strange patrol]

I have been using Helena, Portland and sandy

[sour oasis]

What

[strange patrol]

For the third

Kaga lusty akagi amagi are my back line picks

[sour oasis]

The more I come to #pvp the more behind I feel

[strange patrol]

My front is tacos and friends

I use lusty to best wasd teams

Akagi for HOod teams

[sour oasis]

Anything vs foxes? I need to savescum to not wipe on their early barrage

[strange patrol]

I’m kinda waiting for an IJN that’s a strong dodge or reduction skill hence why I switch around with sandy, Portland and Helena

Yep 0-0 but then yea got the FAT ASS WALL of dmage

And torps once your dodge skill dies off

[sour oasis]

I still hear "reload until foxes don't kill you immediately"

[modern tree]

best defense against foxes is belfast and competent anti air setup.

unfortunately getting gold AA is not really that easy as I have found, not nearly as easy as getting belfast

[sour oasis]

Guess I should consider myself lucky to be in the 2000 range with purple AA?

[modern tree]

I opened one bofor from a box and farmed every other good piece of AA I have

well, wasd performs better if your vanguard gets wiped because then you just wipe theirs with aux guns and shell them to shit

and purple aa is acceptable, it just feels bad to level to +10

[sour oasis]

[modern tree]

cuz you will find that the most important things in pvp is having leveled gear, then correct gear, THEN correct ships

[slow totem]

Wait... I don’t get it

Does Epic Defiance find a way to top ranks using CAs? 2 Torp CAs at that?!

WOKE

[modern tree]

first time I got gensui was with indie port and phoenix

[slow totem]

[modern tree]

thanks enterprise

[slow totem]

CA is viable!!

[modern tree]

totally

[slow totem]

🎊

🕺

Well, My Minne has been melting Auroras as said before

So it kind of make sense, you can pair up Atago, Takao, and Jintsuu for some interesting stuff.

[modern tree]

its a lot of damage, Tacos have pretty high base FP and 20% reload is no joke

also chain torps

you can meme pretty hard with it

[slow totem]

And if the RNG gods bless you, opening torps proc chain torps

[modern tree]

wait, nah Jintsuu doesnt actually buff Tacos because she hates big ships

[slow totem]

......

[modern tree]

so I guess the meme is dead

[slow totem]

Like Amagi

#TooSoon?

[pastel forge]

kagerou taco for ca torp meme

[real notch]

200 cubes.... Still no amagi...

Ready to quit the game

[leaden jay]

How worth it is Eldridge for PvP

Okay

[serene knot]

Btw just to make sure. Some people were talking about foxes in the meta. That mensa akaga, right?

[vague token]

coin flip barrage rip

[serene knot]

Oh OK

Usually people pair foxes with enty?

Oh great

Interesting

Let's see if I can get her

Oh

Well foxes usually stay on the sides anyway

That would actually be good. I already have a leveled wasd

Very interesting

O might try that myself

Oh not the torp fromt

I want my Frontline Belfast + minne (I just love this gal) + something

Minne has too much damage to pass by. She's done great currently

I remember reading about a boat that had a slow effect on whoever she hit... I couldn't find nothing of the sort though

But aurora is a possible third boat

[modern tree]

I think White Heart is the only frontline boat that can slow

and its a chance and also on a 20 second timer

[vague token]

isnt it a pretty small chance? xD

[modern tree]

Its 40% to get barrage and then it has "a chance" to slow that I dont know the percentage of. White Heart is actually one of the better nepbotes, but there is no way to guarantee her second torp strike will hit anything, leaving you with 2 barely impactful skills

[bright raven]

quick question is there really any reason to use Cleveland over something like Helena? The 25% increased dmg just seems to low to something like 60% chances

[slow totem]

Variety

Waifu

Not Metaslaving 24/7 ends up being more fun

Various reasons. But if you strictly want to win, nah, Helena is better.

[modern tree]

Cleave is tankier and does much better against multiple carriers, her damage boost is just an extra. Helena exists purely to have a chance of using her ability. You put them in your fleet for different reasons

[bright raven]

Ok TY, I will give her a go in the fleet next refresh!

[elder crane]

She's also much better than most ships at being able to tank torpedo salvos, due to her HP.
Edinburgh is comparable, with even more HP, and access to QE buff.
The best anti-torp ships, though, are opening-smoke ships, Leander/C class

[dull hollow]

EN can probably still run cleve + helena + leander and get away with it with favorable results

esp with LustE

Helena works with Akaga too if you have +10 gear

because the 2nd launch clips the last bit of her debuff

[modern tree]

I am not sure if foxes launch quite this fast without 120/nagato

[serene knot]

Does nagato pair well with them for pvp or they ain't really meta?

[modest osprey]

Any suggestions on how to improve my team?

[modern tree]

move Eldridge to the back or mid so she doesnt die to torps, replace Eugen with a good boat

[glossy jay]

Is this kaga bb a big disappointment

She doesn't feel like a good investment for two red skills

Sad lyfe

Ijn 3 bb when

[real notch]

get rid of prinz

[elder crane]

Nagato, Amagi, Hiryuukai apparently is the ultimate foxkiller though
Apparently makes matchup very hard for foxes even as the defending team, since with her retro, Hiryuu hits very hard

[glossy jay]

They do tend to kill themselves

[livid fractal]

I lose one game, I'm done sandbagging for this season.

[real notch]

i swear if i don't get amagi in 250 cubes

i'm done the game lol

i'm already at 200

[modern tree]

but you get 99% at about 200 rolls, dont give up

[livid fractal]

I'm also part of no amagi club

[modern tree]

Thats how many I will probably need to spend to get Ashigara

[livid fractal]

I'll just casually do 3x build per day

[modern tree]

I dont get how elites keep eluding me

[elder crane]

it's 98.3% for a 2% ship at 200 rolls
Basically what I plan for as emergency

[bright cloud]

we need an actual no amagi clubs xD

about pvp topics

its already too late but

some days ago

i got +1 pts for fighting someone with 14 pts difference

[elder crane]

The other guy probably climbed as you were fighting; did you check his score afterwards?
Though it would not surprise me if there were bugs like that in the game.

[real notch]

200 rolls or 200 cubes?

what's the statistic at 200 rolls

it's 2 cubes tho so

[supple stratus]

400 cubes for an amagi

But so many cubes either way

100% of crying when above 200 rolls

[supple stratus]

If i were to completely troll Enty users... Would i go Lusty, Uni, Ari and Eldridge just for maximum memery?

The backfleet is just all heals and add an juneau to it for more heals and very horrible setup

I now want to try this stupid 'Genji' fleet in Pvp

[finite valve]

pretty sure the backline going to be the first to die

unless you are packing dps for the front

[supple stratus]

it's just all evasion and healing just to mess with RNG and Enty

Theoretical joke fleet

[foggy token]

go akashi and vestal for backline healing and shoot all them planes down

[finite valve]

that is assuming your eldri can proc

which sometimes she won't

[supple stratus]

Lusty, Vest, Ari, Eld, Sandy, Juneau

[foggy token]

or u can troll enemy enty by using an enty

[supple stratus]

Oh. warida

[finite valve]

tbh just wait for nagaka

but with amagi i doubt it going to work

[supple stratus]

I've still yet to get Amagi

[finite valve]

a great combo once we got nagato and taihou is taihou nagato and amagi

[supple stratus]

I'm still wondering how i'm rank 3K when everyone i'm facing is weak as hell

[finite valve]

imaging what going to happen if taihou proc all 3 planes

gg

tfw you use meme def fleet since day 1

feelgoodman

[supple stratus]

How do i retain a high position on Pvp anyway?

[finite valve]

you can't

[foggy token]

u play

[finite valve]

it is impossible to stay at rank 1

[foggy token]

make sure u dont miss a single pvp

[supple stratus]

What and why would you sandbag?

[finite valve]

@supple stratus basically the way to get fleet admiral 100% for each season is you WAIT for opponent to rank up

since you will gain more point when fighting opponent with more point then yours

[supple stratus]

Souka.

Welp time to make meme def fleet

Meme fleet is good for sandbagging cause it's easy to win against though correct?

[finite valve]

what do you mean when you say memeing?

like ark and 3 loli?

[supple stratus]

Ark/Vert and 3 lolis

[finite valve]

yeh that's work

[supple stratus]

Oh so you don't refresh? Usually whenever i wait it goes down to my rank so i presume that's bad

[finite valve]

hardcore pvp or no lifer?

[supple stratus]

PvP is a large appeal for me in this game, lets just say that

[finite valve]

you should try GBF then

they have guild war there

[supple stratus]

GBF?

[finite valve]

grand blue fantasy

[supple stratus]

Oh

souka

[finite valve]

be warned that the grind is kindda bad

[supple stratus]

I'll stick to AL due to this being their server and if i spread my hand across multiple games, it'll be hard to dedicate to them

[finite valve]

not really a problem if you have 2+ monitors and using emulator lel

[supple stratus]

Phone user

[finite valve]

[supple stratus]

[slow totem]

OwO What’s this...?

[supple stratus]

A finished discussion

[dark nova]

[slow totem]

Did you know that...

Vampire is based on Vampy/Vania from GBF?

They even gone as far as hiring the exact same voice actress, Kugimiya Rie.

[charred sable]

Much Amagi

[slow totem]

[real notch]

from 250 to this

and still no amagi

[slow totem]

Is this the price to pay for Aurora and Jintsuu?

[real notch]

i spent 204 cubes on aurora too

[slow totem]

I retract my statement

[real notch]

jintsuu was like 80 runs

not great RNG

it's like OK

plenty of people got jintsuu before me tho lol

i was one of the last ones

[slow totem]

Still doesn’t explain th-... oh I got it

Do that, might as well

[real notch]

i can only do 8 more pulls now

[slow totem]

don’t be this

[real notch]

how do i turn off my desire sensor

[slow totem]

You go full zen and don’t think of anything when building.

[real notch]

and why is the game so fukin savage to me

[foggy token]

uninstall

they cant desire sense u

if ur not there

[slow totem]

200IQ

Sneeki breeki iv damke

[vague token]

[real notch]

alright

time to open some boxes

and finish off my cubes

and if i don't get amagi

[vague token]

biggest brain strats lol

[real notch]

i'm quitting this fucking game

[slow totem]

Dude

Desire sensor

Just zen.

Don’t proclaim your desire for X ship.

[real notch]

alright

i'm going to meditate

and think about nothing

when i open these rolls

[slow totem]

☯

[azure aurora]

Gz ?

[vague token]

rekt

[slow totem]

Damn, you’re cursed.

[real notch]

well that was just my first roll

after meditating

[slow totem]

It’s technically an SSR

So getting there

Ganbaru

[real notch]

maybe i'll try wishing for sandy

or portland

which one should i wish for

[vague token]

sandy wont work im pretty sure

[real notch]

ok i'll wish for portland

alright

it didn't work

i opened 240 purple boxes to get ~8000 gold

no luck

[slow totem]

Sometimes, the Universe just says “Fk this guy in particular.”

[vague token]

[pastel forge]

[foggy token]

or be like this guy is too op, needs nerf

[glossy jay]

i saved 300 cubes for this event

however, i didnt even know amagi was a unit until the day i rolled

[hollow dawn]

If you wish to discuss non-pvp things like rolls and construction - we have plenty of channels for that. This is not one of them

[topaz beacon]

have ppl begun using amagi in offense yet?

[timber plinth]

still raising mine

amagi-? -? aya-jintsu-?
any recommendations?

[modern tree]

Even if you got her as soon as event started, most of her power is her skills so she will not really be testable for the next 24 hours unless you ran only 2 of them at high level or all of them at around 4

Amagi will probably perform best when used with Akagi and Kaga, in which case your last pick would be Aurora for maximum fox power.

[charred sable]

The Amagi prep is real

[timber plinth]

ic...
akagi and cv kaga

[modern tree]

You can also use her with Washington and South Dakota, in which case your last boat could be about anything, but probably Juneau or other IJN if you feel like totally just playing for torpedoes

[timber plinth]

btw amagi skill tht need 4 ijn count herself or no

[modern tree]

Carrier duo, yeah. I don't think BB kaga has what it takes to di well in pvp

She counts herself

[timber plinth]

ic
thanks @modern tree

[hot creek]

rank 493 vs rank 200

do you think its enough for +11 ?

rank 331 was about 10 points above iirc when i checked while he was top 100 before reset.

comparison to top 100 https://puu.sh/CvXUx/c1d72069c1.png

hmmm yeah I don't think r200 would give the +11

[modern tree]

There's no way

[velvet fossil]

Missed 3 attacks, hopefully can still get fleet admiral

Would it still be possible on washy?

[hot creek]

that's one of the newer servers so i would assume so

[velvet fossil]

Alrighty

[azure aurora]

Jesus strike again

Don't know how juneau always survive

[pastel forge]

was she mid?

[azure aurora]

Front

[pastel forge]

wut

[azure aurora]

Because my vanguard not desron

Juneau eldridge and belfast

All use Vanguard for foxes and wasd enemy

[pastel forge]

rebellious juneau, she be tired of dying for our sins

[coral wren]

Eeh, how weak jin+aur would be without rainbow torp aux?

[slow totem]

[azure aurora]

Still strong

If crit

[civic nymph]

How to get max points in pvp for Gensui

[azure aurora]

Just atk left enemy

False hope

Kagerou and mutsuki kai next ?

[noble gyro]

should i use CV Kaga or BB Kaga along with Akagi/Amagi?

[azure aurora]

BB Kaga not good pvp ship

Cv kaga better

[coral wren]

oh fuck, missed 4 attempts, rip

[slow totem]

🇫

[native mantle]

first time I'm higher then colonel

[azure aurora]

Mlb that foxes for instant gensui

[native mantle]

aye but i only have 4 bullins and i need 7 to mlb baga, kaga, akagi and amagi

[azure aurora]

You don't need to mlb baga

[native mantle]

i want to mlb baga for pve

[azure aurora]

Bb kaga good for pve ?

[native mantle]

aye a akagami mainfleet for IJN bossfleet so i was told

and I'm not shure to MLB baga and agami while the event until i got enough dupes

[azure aurora]

50% chance not that good

Amagi is worth

70% chance barrage

[native mantle]

aye but for worlds like W10 where ya need BB/BC's she should be better

but tbh idk. i just repply what i had heard from YWIS^^

[azure aurora]

Got washy ?

[native mantle]

no started with neptune

[azure aurora]

Yes raise her then, but focus amagi

[native mantle]

aye i know^^ i just don't wanted to waste bullins and then get later after i MLB both enough dupes^^

[azure aurora]

Like my case

8k points, 1 sec after that bb kaga drop from map

[native mantle]

got now 4 amagis and 2 bagas(1 from shop) so that i need 7 instead of 9 bullins

[proven night]

What d'ya think?

[zenith flame]

thinking about it

should I just give everyone mag torps?

sure less damage but theyll probably do better when they all hit

[subtle whale]

yeah

pretty much use it in pvp

and auto pve

[modern tree]

what level barrage

last two levels are a damage bonus, yeah, but I dont think it will be a monumental change

can she even survive very long as flagship at lvl 90? that's like 20% more damage taken

and her skills are gone when she sinks

Yeah, I remember you mentioning you would do that

she probably has like 1,5 shots more than other bbs and every single one can barrage

is her first shot really like 5 seconds for her to catch E? geez

if I ran full ijn I would probably slap fcr on sodako for faster and harder focused assaults

also your skill is not even max level yet, thats kinda dumb

I know its only couple of % but still

[dry socket]

azur lane seems to shift towards additive buffs

hyuuga, amagi, arsenal buffs (obviously), etc

[hot creek]

should I max a third set of pult/tanks for this meme team 🤔 https://puu.sh/Cw2tg/f11e283353.png

[modern tree]

helena tanking

[hot creek]

u right. probably should put jintsuu up there instead

[modern tree]

I ran that with 2 sets of +6 tanks and catas on foxes and I really had no issues stomping 80% of the fights in couple of seconds

but there will be that one guy with their maxed shit that will wall you for a bit

then again, helena might fix that

I used belfast

[hot creek]

I have plenty of plates to do it but....feels wasteful

[modern tree]

it probably is

[hot creek]

240 T3 aux plates. hmm.....

[modern tree]

the most CVs outside pf pvp I use nowadays are Shoho and Uni for pve and while double cata on those might be good, the content that requires them also kind of forces toolboxes or extinguishers at the very least

So I can hardly imagine a way for 3 sets of carrier auxes to be worth it in the end, if you are just planning to meme

and as I said before, this worked for me with garbage gear

[proven night]

Kaga/Nagato/Amagi main fleet is just soo op its the only viable main fleet on JP pvp

[modern tree]

Oh no, its not the only fleet, Nagato Amagi can fit about any IJN ship in the back and still be powerful so enjoy the new Nagkaga meta, with slight variety

[hot creek]

Hiryuu/Nagato/Amagi

[proven night]

Yeah but most top players are still running akagi nagato

[odd schooner]

@real notch I will be using this def for a while just in case you see me on pvp for testing purposes. All 3 backline including Aurora not 200 affection tho so it's not a bit optimal

[modern tree]

I imagine not everyone is dedicated enough to push amagi to 120 within like 3 weeks she was out

but it will change

[odd schooner]

I want to raise aurora affection at some point but st louis skill proc voice makes me

[foggy token]

having hiryuu kai or taihoe as 3rd is much better option than hyuuga kai

cv with frontline bombing and touch down dmg is much more reliable than shelling

not to mention, ur extra fp advantage gets negated if enemy also uses amagi

amagi 2nd skill is pretty much a big middle finger to any 3 bb comps with that +10% rate

u can dodge shells, but u cant dodge kamikaze planes

[modern tree]

Taiho and Hiryuu being the only good carriers (because only other IJN CVs are sister ships) probably enriches the Amagi experience a whole lot considering both their skills make them really tough to take down

[foggy token]

im leveling a hiryuu right now in cn so i can test her

if that 15 sec and extra strikes is worth downgrading 2k ish hp, heavy to medium armor

and airstrike, he shelling resistence

[modern tree]

extra strike is a lot of bonus suicide damage and her efficencies are really high because of the kai

[foggy token]

i look at the distribution

[modern tree]

if nothing else, it's easier to reset a loss with 15 seconds grace timer

[foggy token]

the extra strike is average 2 planes

2.04 planes

ijn pulling a sodak there

[modern tree]

Foxes are ran because of the 1.5 extra strike they have, I cant imagine a world in which having one extra at Enterprise stats and efficencies, with stall on top is straight up bad

just the fact that she will absorb shelling and other garbage during those 15 seconds might be enough to push this ship

assuming she is not last one alive which she shouldnt be with those stats

[foggy token]

people ran foxes because they get to strike at a time without annoying skills like eldridge and enterprise. later they even get enhanced for being able to fit in the window of sendai

usually their first strike decides the game.

hmmm hiryuu has 3/2/3 loadout

that makes her strike cd quite fast

among cvs

[modern tree]

would Ryuusei be viable for her with 150% eff? I think that you could abuse the shit out of that because shes a solo carrier and by the time her second/extra strike is out the frontlines are probably both dead. Then again, Cuda suicide damage with extra strike

[foggy token]

if u can effectively take out enemy frontline sure.

i probably wouldnt use ryuusei on hiryuu

[odd schooner]

@foggy token would you go 406mm or purple 410mm on amagi

410mm + gold fcr can't hit enty tho

Like EN amagi shoots around 10 so +18 on second one and with travel time it goes up to 29/30s on first wave which is still under enterprise invul

Or do i gib and insta kill Washington instead

Or maybe i should do more testings

But i guess I'll do it by 4am

Gotta sleep

[lone pendant]

[real notch]

nice you got level 100 amagi

i have 6 wisdom cubes left now so hopefully i'll get amagi

i'm around rank 1k right now, hbu

[odd schooner]

900+

We're about close

[runic iron]

Hey, I want to improve my pvp team, so i'd like to get some advices

my current team:
Illusty - Z23
Hood - Ayanami
Enty - Belfast
Back: 12366 Front: 12908
(why is my front so much higher? like i did retrofit z23 and ayanami, but does it make that much of a difference? this is making backline unable to support my front. HOW TO MAKE BACK STRONGER is my biggest problem)

[azure aurora]

Power not everything

[modern tree]

Dont get too hung up on the numbers, the game looks mostly at the rarities and levels of things to determine the power. Now that we got this over with, if you want to make your backline more powerful you should look to replace Illustrous that struggles to deal damage or get much value out of her skill in pvp with something that isn't Illustrous.

Fastest way to improve this teams performance would be swapping Illustrous for Queen Elizabeth and possibly changing one or both destroyers into something from HMS to get more value out of the buff

thats assuming you have absolutely nothing you could be using instead, since QE is moderately easy to farm up and rise with only one skill

QE is also futureproof since even if you stop using her in pvp, she is still a pve monster

[runic iron]

my QE is at lvl 75 and i havent touched her skill
i do have maxed out Akagi, Kaga, Warspite, Laffey, Eldridge, Prinz Eugen

[modern tree]

You could vastly improve Illustrous performance by using Eldridge since their skills work decently well together. Akagi and Kaga with Enterprise or Hood are very threatening if you have gear for them. Rising QE will give you access to current HMS staple of buffing Hood and Warspite to swiftly remove main fleet ships.

[runic iron]

anyway recommendations on Hood's auxiliaries?

[modern tree]

Gold SG Radar and High Standard Fire control Radar if you have gotten it from Fallen Wings, if you have not, 2 SG radars or SG and regular purple Fire Control Radar should do fine

[runic iron]

ok I have GSG and HSFCR

thx, this was a lot of help

[modern tree]

[runic iron]

oh one more thing, i just noticed, I had one SG on my belfast for some reason, should i give the autoloader on Hood to her then?

[modern tree]

Since your Belfast is up front and tanking, the best auxiliaries for her will be Repair Tools and Torpedo Bulge. Offensive auxiliaries on the frontline do not work super well unless they have huge synergy with ships skills like for example 93 Oxygen Torpedo stats being multiplied by Ayanami

Or you have a very specyfic purpose for them, like turning your heavy crusier into the glassiest of glass canons with Fire Control Radars

(not recommended)

[runic iron]

oh i just remember why i had it on belfast, to avoid ambushes...

[modern tree]

no need to worry about ambushes in pvp

[runic iron]

i had it for an event and left it on and forgot about it

i also have pearl's tear and beaver squad tag, are those suffices as replacements for repair tools?

[coral wren]

Thinking about swapping my NC for Amagi once she’s built and Laffey with Jintsuu retrofit once I have her gear finished, how would my pvp fleet look?

Or would I be better off replacing Hood instead since two BCs = shit AA

screenshot still uploading whoops

[modern tree]

Pearl is as much HP as a Toolbox and your tank is likely to sink rather fast so its fine to use if over toolbox since you would not get much value out of the passive healing either way. Beaver tag is the best and only real evasion auxiliary we have on EN at the moment and I am pretty sure a mix of HP boost and Evasion boost is what gives Belfast the most effective health possible due to her base stats

Beaver is usually used to drastically increase backliners evasion tho, since the passive applies to the frontline either way and battleships with carriers usually have less total evasion than Beaver gives

@coral wren Jintsuu will make this frontline delete things with just torpedoes so it's a pretty good swap. I am not sure how well Amagi will work out in the spot of NC but considering both her and Hood have mean barrages, the pressure on the main fleet betwen those two and Enterprise planes should be more effective than a plain battleship, even if you lose out on AA

Would require testing

[coral wren]

I see, thanks for input

Reason why I considered swapping NC is so that Hood can take care of 2/3 of the enemy backline with her barrage at that spot

As opposed to being in the middle as usual

I also still want to use Hood because I oathed her

[modern tree]

Good thing about pvp is that experimenting with it is free, you can quit at any time without losing anything, so you can figure out the configuration that works best against the opponent you are facing.

[hidden hare]

How to counter FW?

[hot creek]

410's

and killing the Enty

[runic iron]

Is this accurate?

[elder crane]

Mostly, but with one or two things that many would disagree with

The stuff that's relevant for PvP is good enough though

[runic iron]

ok

[elder crane]

There's better equip recs out there I'd say.
For PvE, I'd recommend Doublemint's guide or Ayase's guide (the new one, on it's own blog site, the forum one is somewhat outdated) since they give explanations of why each equip is used.
For specific-ship equip recs for both PvE and PvP, I'd recommend AriPanda's Guide, or the suggestions on the CN wiki

[odd schooner]

@hidden hare use foxes

@hidden hare pm me on fb. I will send you pvp matches

Actually, I'll send you one now

Ye kinda weird

Foxes are stomping everything

And FW vs FW fights are 1 minute 30 seconds fights

Saint Louis and 120 cap when

[glossy jay]

pvp got a lot easier

when i made martyr boat

[foggy token]

jesus never fails

[coral wren]

😮 Amagi + foxes and Jintsu Ayaya Aurora are doing great together

[runic iron]

what is FW?

Fallen wing?

[hot creek]

yes, sodak and washington

[coral wren]

What AA weapon should I use in pvp? I have 1x 113mm 8x 105mm and 4x Quad Bofors.

my ships are Amagi Ayaya Jintsu and Aurora

[hot creek]

use the 113mm and all your bofors. Those are the best AA. Then use one of the 105mm until you find another bofors or 113mm

[coral wren]

oh oki. I have akagi on other 2 bakclines so I dont need AA for them unless I go WAD

ty

[vague token]

i snuck up to 1st on avrora and gurren lagann jumped up with that +6 lol

hasnt even been an hour

xD

[ionic hill]

anyone know the auxiliaries for hood in pvp?

[solemn gorge]

sg radar fcr

[ionic hill]

alright thx

[odd schooner]

@vague token i still have 2 matches but idk. I don't intend on going top 10 end season either cause i plan to chill like what i said last December

But ye i went up so req might match it up for testing. Still slvl 8 tho and I'm 12 hours behind sched for red skill to max

[vague token]

xD

[slow totem]

What schedule? :O

[vague token]

academy skill schedule i think

for amagi im guessing

im leveling yellow first xD

i dont know how someone got oathed 100 amagi in their pvp fleet already

that's hard core active

[hot creek]

well, its not too hard. espeically with backline ship xp bonus and easy MVPs

[slow totem]

Paper HP and Paper AA

Yea, she’s shit against planes. Should be good against BBs.

[glossy jay]

muggy and kaga are just sounding more and more not worth

[slow totem]

Give it time. :P

[glossy jay]

ive been slowly replacing my DD frontline with CLs

idk who to round it off with, but i might just stick with a single DD to slap with martyr and leander

[odd schooner]

The hype will die out soon

Hope so

It's kinda nice tho her barrage can shoot 2 backliners

[glossy jay]

but can it 2 shot backliners

[odd schooner]

That idk yet

She evaporated a frontline when i was pushing earlier today

Should be same as hood

Or somewhere there

Uploading...

[solemn gorge]

where does beaver badge fit on amagi + akaga

[odd schooner]

You could

Put it on amagi

Or

Middle ship vanguard

Req is slotting it on his middle ship i think

[solemn gorge]

so fcr beaver badge on amagi?

[odd schooner]

Or fcr sg

Depends on your taste

[solemn gorge]

if fcr sg then its beaver badge on middle ship vanguard

[odd schooner]

Technically yes

[solemn gorge]

do you have pearl's tears on jintsuu?

[odd schooner]

I move it around but idk

Maybe I'll put it on ayanami

[solemn gorge]

-_-

[odd schooner]

Needs more testing

On vanguard

[solemn gorge]

are your foxes 200 affection?

[odd schooner]

Not yet as you can see on the pic

[solemn gorge]

i dont have my foxes at 200 affection yet

but i just got fw + enty all at 200

kinda sad to switch off them

[odd schooner]

With 200 affection on both, should be 12714

Excluding amagi

@humble scarab we're testing it with 2-3 players so i placed it like that

I originally use FW as def

[hollow fractal]

i found you lol

[odd schooner]

Go try

For testing purposes

Kindly put some data here too pls 🙇

Will be appreciated

[hollow fractal]

oh i won first try with wasd, should i have reset multiple times for the statistics? D:

[odd schooner]

Ye

[hollow fractal]

oops sorry, didn't read your message until after

[odd schooner]

[hollow fractal]

if i run into you again i'll remember!

[lunar veldt]

so is WASD still better then amakaga?

or do we stiill need more testings?

[odd schooner]

It's the counter

[hollow fractal]

that team is probably better for offense because it's a lot quicker

[lunar veldt]

i well aware of the rock paper scissors fleet comps

so replace hood with amagi?

kek def fleet WASD

off fleet amagaka

should suffice

[odd schooner]

To have the complete data, we still need to wait for 12+ more days

11 and a half to be exact

[azure aurora]

Lv 8 yelow and blue prob enough

[lunar veldt]

welp back to testing

[azure aurora]

Red need max ofc

[odd schooner]

Can be can be

[hollow fractal]

i'll make that team in like 15 days and test it too

[odd schooner]

Wasd fleet loses it's purpose if it dies in less than 40s

[lunar veldt]

just wait for the next full pvp reset

[odd schooner]

So we have to tweak it up a bit

[lunar veldt]

the leaderboards will tell

anyways

[odd schooner]

I lost 1 point today cause of this

[azure aurora]

Amagi wasd ?

[sour oasis]

Gah. Think I faced the ultimate PVP team; KriGUN has their Helena radar timed to proc with Akaga early launch, along with Juneau martyr

[azure aurora]

[lunar veldt]

amagi wasd will make a good def comp though

[odd schooner]

What

[azure aurora]

Akaga 13 sec right?

Helena 20

[odd schooner]

Ye

[azure aurora]

How ?

[odd schooner]

Next airstrike is 30+

[lunar veldt]

first airstrike or BUST

[azure aurora]

Comet akaga ?

[sour oasis]

They slowed akaga to 20s

[azure aurora]

[lunar veldt]

comet? hmm

[odd schooner]

H-how

I wasn't aware you can stall airstrike up to 40s

[lunar veldt]

NAKAGA WHEN?

[sour oasis]

Had to kill Helen or Juneau first

Then ate death as enterprise or akaga follow up.

I suppose this is a punishment for not enough Sandy in my fleet

[lunar veldt]

im pretty sure that we are gonna get mikasa before nagato

[sour oasis]

Don't ask me how they did it, they just did.

[azure aurora]

Weak to eldridge

[sour oasis]

But it syncs with their team super well. I tried to tank and I kept losing ships to their 1st or 2nd waves

[azure aurora]

Dragon and cranes exist

[sour oasis]

(Belfast, P.eugen, Eldo tank)

[lunar veldt]

cant wait for dragons retrofit

[sour oasis]

"Dragon"?

[azure aurora]

Bunny

[lunar veldt]

kek or rather bunny sisters

[azure aurora]

[sour oasis]

Ah. I doubt 12s of hiryuu would have mattered

[azure aurora]

No fast strike

[sour oasis]

I thought I covered my bases; AA and smoke plus HE to kill their CLs

It's fine. I am curious what my blindspot is

[lunar veldt]

stack toolboxes?

[sour oasis]

Not sure an extra 500hp would tank enough. The fox/e tandem with laffy/helena front cut through prinz eugen and Belfast

[lunar veldt]

smokescreen does jack if they have aurora

[sour oasis]

So what frontline would be best?

[azure aurora]

Still help, better than nothing

[lunar veldt]

ye i suppose that the 35% helps anit

abit*

[sour oasis]

So a mirror fight?

[lunar veldt]

doesnt help if your ships are low on HP due to the initial torp barrage

[sour oasis]

I feel my equips and/or synergy is weaker

[azure aurora]

Remember desron vs desron mirror sometimes screw you

[lunar veldt]

same problems with the other server with the negaka meta

the nuke is real

if u dont have toolboxes

all it takes is one good torp placement at the start

[sour oasis]

My front is weakened by their juneau-laffy torp, helena radars, foxes critical, ent mops up

[lunar veldt]

your frontline will collapse during the first airstrike

[sour oasis]

Dying.

[azure aurora]

Laffey not best ship for pvp

[lunar veldt]

as long as your backline dont face a full bomb drop you should be fine

[sour oasis]

I've cycled WaSD, HMS, and just Enty and hoping to Lucky E.

How does it [[not]] face full bomb drop?

[slow totem]

@lunar veldt Smoke counters Aurora. My LeanderXD’s opening smoke makes facing torp-aurora vanguards ez and manageable.

[lunar veldt]

[azure aurora]

Leander fanatic

[lunar veldt]

kek leander

[slow totem]

👌

[lunar veldt]

underrated ship

[azure aurora]

Very

[slow totem]

Ez Smoke, Ez Aurora busting

[lunar veldt]

but heh u dont see that many leander kais in pvp

yeah

see

[slow totem]

Yesh, she needs more love.

[lunar veldt]

cuz smth smth hur hur belfast does a better job

[azure aurora]

Don't really care about def

[slow totem]

Against torp vanguards? LOL

[sour oasis]

I've seen Leander defense fleets with HMS setup

[azure aurora]

My def is hiryuu and tanikaze with max speed aug

[slow totem]

Leander vapes at battle start, tanking torps

[lunar veldt]

people forget leander and belfast a different

ye

[dull elm]

def fleets dont matter anyway at near top

[sour oasis]

Belfast, Leander, Fortune somewhat annoying

[slow totem]

Belfast vapes at 10 seconds, torp already gone

[lunar veldt]

belfast is there for the airstrike

[slow totem]

My ‘defense’ fleet is Kimono fleet

[azure aurora]

Belfast counter foxes, leander torp

Juneau ded

[slow totem]

PoW, Akaga (ungeared/naked), Cygnet, Laffey, and Helena

[azure aurora]

Check mate aurora foxes user

[lunar veldt]

put junny at the back

must

protect

that

[sour oasis]

Juneau dead, everyone heals 3k

[lunar veldt]

smile

[slow totem]

[lunar veldt]

no bulli pls

[slow totem]

shitkikans sending ptsd patient repeatedly to die.

[lunar veldt]

ever since the chinks come up with that meta list with junny

[sour oasis]

Hard choice: kill martyr or debuff 1st?

[lunar veldt]

she has been aboosed

[hollow fractal]

pvp isn't real so juneau doesn't actually die! at least that's how i rationalize it in my mind...

[lunar veldt]

i like to think martyr like mercy's rez

[dull elm]

seems to feel like Belfap doesnt counter/ or doesnt matter that much anymore vs foxes

[lunar veldt]

it allows u to tank one more airstrike

[slow totem]

Belfap does, very much, until Nagato comes along.

[sour oasis]

Which with debuff.. Means you die on 3rd CV strike

[slow totem]

But Nagato ain’t here yet

dab

[azure aurora]

Navato never come

[slow totem]

[lunar veldt]

the thing bout debuff that it is rng base

compared to matyr

not like its gonna gurantee proc mind u

[sour oasis]

I'm still transfixed on Helena/Juneau and Foxes synergy

[azure aurora]

Helena not good without E

[slow totem]

[sour oasis]

Wait. I thought SC radar was guaranteed

[azure aurora]

Foxes friend is Aurora

[hollow fractal]

i used helena + foxes when i first started, it wasn't really good

[dull elm]

I gotta use juneau since i didnt get Aurora yet

[azure aurora]

That hurts

[lunar veldt]

yikes

[sour oasis]

Are you telling me rngesus was screwing with me 9 times in a row?!

[azure aurora]

Yes

[dull elm]

but backline will be healty while enemy one is near ded

[lunar veldt]

pretty much

[azure aurora]

My jintsuu in mid

[sour oasis]

[lunar veldt]

so

are we

[azure aurora]

For me aya job is first few sec torpedo

[lunar veldt]

IJN LANE NOW BOIS?

[dull elm]

ayanamy is still first to die almost every time

[slow totem]

EASTERN RADIANCE LANE

[azure aurora]

After that go die

[sour oasis]

Screw this game sometimes

[slow totem]

[sour oasis]

PVP, enemy always gets a boost right?

[slow totem]

You get the boost

20%

[azure aurora]

Thats why almost impossible to lose mirror

[sour oasis]

So... I should be stronger.. Wow.

[azure aurora]

Even vs oathed ship

[lunar veldt]

yeah

if u are losing

[slow totem]

but enemy proc chance is 120% while yours is -69% Kappa

[sour oasis]

Then I am impossible?

[lunar veldt]

then the fault lies in your comp

[azure aurora]

Or your eq

[sour oasis]

I really do feel like enemy is 120% and I'm 80%

[lunar veldt]

PVP is for Epeen anyways

[slow totem]

Oath’s 6% bonus to base stats matter jack shit

[lunar veldt]

either u want a smol or swol one

is up to u

[slow totem]

Naw, it’s for 4 Extra Purins per month

Who cares about ranks

Gimme my Gold Purin then I’m out

[lunar veldt]

kek shhh its all bout that juicy epeen kek

[azure aurora]

Puny 6%

[slow totem]

🛡

[sour oasis]

I've finally got +10 equips. So in a mirror match... I'm still losing at least 50%

[azure aurora]

Oath mutsuki

[slow totem]

🛡

[lunar veldt]

dafuq is your comp @sour oasis

[sour oasis]

Yeah. Extra purrin is what I'm shooting for

[azure aurora]

Oath for stat is nope

[lunar veldt]

+10 can mean jack if u use the worst equipmentds

[azure aurora]

Will lose when meta change

Oath for waifu is forever

[lunar veldt]

oath for stats? haha yes

[foggy token]

please, oath for skin

[sour oasis]

@lunar veldt Enty / Lexi-Hood or WaSD, Belf-Taco-Eld

[lament lichen]

taco

[azure aurora]

Why no sandy and unicorn wedding skin

They really popular

[lunar veldt]

TACO did in a pvp fleet? hmm

no junny?

lmao

[foggy token]

send a dm to azurlane official and ask

[sour oasis]

I... Feel bad about using Junny and Sandy

[slow totem]

My Taco Vewy Stronk

🌮

[azure aurora]

4 sec taco

[lunar veldt]

[hollow fractal]

also what gear are you using on wasd?

[sour oasis]

🙇

[lunar veldt]

doesnt matter why lexi?

when u can go for another bb

like washy

[sour oasis]

Lexi when I can't figure out if I need cv or bb

[lunar veldt]

put hood and washy at the side to snipe cvs

if they are low enough

[sour oasis]

I always thought Wa always goes with SD

[lunar veldt]

your Lucky E should be able to finish

[azure aurora]

Throw washy, qe hood and E master race

Old meta

[lunar veldt]

ye BBs at the side old meta

old but it works

sort of

kek

[sour oasis]

Ah.. My Lucky E procs 30% of time, even at max skill.

[azure aurora]

At the end ofc E vs E

But who cares

[sour oasis]

Ofc

🙇

[lunar veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/352975182065041410/527910778833993756/Dbhz7MhVwAASZ8_.jpg

thats all u need haha