pvp

[steel coral]

lion burn meme

[haughty cove]

It is probably a sacrilegious question, so I'll ask for a forgiveness in advance .

• Assuming I only do 10 out of 15 exercises every day, how much merit can I obtain on average per season?
• If I only do 15/15 unti I reached captain and only do 5/15 or 10/15 for the rest, how much merit is it on average per season?

Essentially, I'm wondering what is the minimum effort needed to obtain 15k points per season.

[distant gulch]

[flint python]

[haughty cove]

[lusty hill]

What strats is this

You'd probably lost more than half

If you use all attempts you should get at least 30k

Up to 33k if you do the rushing strats

[jade heart]

Lion is looking hot.

[valid oxide]

finaally an attack fleet i can build

[stable dawn]

not only that, it originated from us. It's an attack specific tech where you don't equip WNT in your fleet at all to take advantage of the enemy WNT effect and run Pearl Alsace flag to eat the stray torps and die after preload nuking

because it turns out the standard vanguard is literally too tanky to die and will pretty much never trigger pearl before you lose backline members

[light crystal]

I feel that Lion herself doesn't do much DMG

Most of her DPM comes from that stupid bugged fire, cuz it doesn't seem to be counted as her DMG, despite doing a crapton.

Incidentally, I've begun using my own Lion, despite being non-maxed, cuz kept losing against some stupid random with his 120 non-Oathed Lion.

[flint python]

[light crystal]

These vamp wings are cool af, wish I won some from free crates.

[distant gulch]

i hate it

[grim solar]

It's great for IB ships.

[distant gulch]

great for... Vampire

🫃🏼

[whole salmon]

Yeah dot don’t count towards end screen

And majority of Lion’s damage is dot

So although you don’t see her doing a lot of damage when it is end screen

Just know that she is always at top

I mean she does 1.3k per tic, apply that to 5-6 ships

[whole salmon]

And it tic every 3 seconds

That’s some ridiculous levels of damage

[grim solar]

Aura.

[whole salmon]

You don’t think she is doing a lot but then the frontline melts at 15 seconds

[ornate lake]

Kinda bugged, cuz i see 1.7k burn on 5 ships and 10k damage in the end...

[whole salmon]

Yeah, damage over time doesn’t count towards end screen damage, it has always been this way

So burns and floods and other types of DOTs don’t appear at end screen total

Lion is actually doing way more than expected since she basically ignores damage reduction and eva stat

Her damage is essentially guaranteed regardless of who she faces, stupidly consistent

[ornate lake]

She is broken in more ways than i expected

[trail temple]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[whole salmon]

It is why CN had the Richelieu, Alsace, Shimakaze comp for the last year or so on defense. The comp didn’t catch on in EN server but it functioned on the same concept of triple burn + flood to just DOT the enemy

[ornate lake]

Richelieu, Alsace and lion... Omg

[distant gulch]

🫃🏼 aint gonna raise richelieu for that

[unkempt vortex]

Does Alsace still stay on the Core PVP Fleet of GOT? Considering the first thoughts about Lion?

Also is Lion a good alternative if you don't have an Alsace?

[ornate lake]

Yes, yes

[brazen socket]

Do you think triple burn will be viable

[trail temple]

Inb4 you see it in the spreadsheet

[ornate lake]

Well, questionable. Cuz Richelieu and Alsace burn is like 119-200 per tick, not as high as lions 1.7k. flooding effect from shimakaze is 119 as i remember correctly.

179

[ornate lake]

Well, that what we encounter this days

[whole salmon]

There’s a lot of interesting stuff to consider in triple burn

For example, the range of most BB guns are 50-200

This means they will search for enemies beyond 50 range

Due to how positioning in pvp works, the defender’s frontline are closer to the attacker’s backline while the attacker’s frontline are farther away compared to defender’s backline.
(Because of this you can utilize DD aux gun on offense to attack enemy frontline while they can’t against you, leading to Laffey being less useful on defense)

[whole salmon]

Due to this, attacker have higher chance to hit enemy backline as the defender frontline tends to move forward, meaning the only enemy within the “beyond 50 range” are the backlines

Conversely, both your frontline and backline lies within the 50-200 range, this means defender have equal chance of hitting attacker’s frontline as backline

Because of this, triple HE gun burn team works better on defense

While AP gun works better on offense

[lusty hill]

What's the finalest final evaluation of lion and the downfall of laffey

[stable dawn]

the evaluation is don't use any of them. Use mafia

[ornate lake]

[stable dawn]

[flint python]

use warspite

[distant gulch]

use mutsuki

[jade heart]

GAMER

[fickle echo]

https://youtu.be/UMg-O9CkdFM?si=CXkuFov1Xb9VlXtE
Lion is so good she even makes Royal Oak looks usable just because she can keep her alive longer

[distant gulch]

why not manjuu lion

[fickle echo]

My dream came true

[distant gulch]

surely

[shell raft]

Ari

[fickle echo]

Black Rock Shooter Collab revived me

[shell raft]

Fair enough lol

[brazen socket]

I thought it was nakaga...

[stable dawn]

replace alsus with vanguard for maximum HMS

[light crystal]

2 bad fortune meta not hms

[lusty hill]

Royal oak is poverty seydlitz

[valid oxide]

Replace royal oak with warkai, trust in the snipe fleet 🐎

[trail temple]

#bringbackwarkai

[flint python]

warkai augment will bring her back

[brazen socket]

What HE gun would you guys slap on them anyways?

I assume alsace would like nj/lion gun... or kear gun

Man its been so long since I've lost touched pvp :kek:

[trail temple]

Kear was on Richelieu in that comp since it has higher alpha and is likely to die after the preload

[spiral owl]

https://youtu.be/KCNNgMJIgio?si=hvMe_BlTlTVpUT5Z torpmemes strong

[wicked surge]

Lion barrage doesn't hit the top , that spot is now the safest position

[valid oxide]

Doesn't matter, burn spreads anyway

[whole salmon]

CN triple down with Warspite, Royal Oak, Lion

sigh

Time to raise Royal Oak

[whole salmon]

They found the counter to this, which is Warspite

Warspite would be targeting the only area not affected by Lion’s initial barrage

[wicked surge]

[whole salmon]

CN calls it triple Emperor comp

Lion, Royal Oak, Warspite

[wicked surge]

Would they survive before the regular Musashi Alsace kill them though

[whole salmon]

Royal Oak

She is basically HMS Seydlitz

She tanks the damage that other HMS ships would take

Provide invul and healing

It is why Ari was testing Royal Oak earlier

[trail temple]

Js, I think CN is behind @steel coral

[whole salmon]

The reason Royal Oak wasn’t used more often was cus HMS suck ass

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1L8jRzuEz2/?spm_id_from=333.1387.list.card_archive.click

[valid oxide]

Wait my warkai I used to use in PvP before I got NJ is useful now?

[steel coral]

true

[distant gulch]

insane

[trail temple]

Who said CN are at the forefront of testing, get NArdVPN and you too will be ahead of the curve like NArd

[stable dawn]

the VPN that can hack time

[light crystal]

who u even trying to snipe with ws? lion?

how about if they run her mid

[trail temple]

#pvp message

[gloomy sand]

Royal Oak to keep the anorexia open mark of the mark of the marksman
Differently from the avant-garde, the addition of the lion allows misogyny to bring mk4 first hand increases the likelihood of being able to fire.
The Royal Oak's “Royal Sedan Fat” is crucial.

[stable dawn]

google translate spitting fire

[brazen socket]

Holy fuck have I finally found the reason 125 warspite?

[lusty hill]

You should consider her aug will increase the snipe damage by x2 and add 40% damage increase debuff to the enemy hit by the snipe

Not to mention +20% flat damage increase to all royal navy ships

[steel coral]

don't forget about the preload

[valid oxide]

Spoot is so back

[wary berry]

damn lion really shook pvp to the core huh

[ornate lake]

What? Aug? Am i skipped smth in the game?

[valid oxide]

It's just serenity being serenity ignore it

[light crystal]

Rather she just shake her milkers in front of me than my PvP meta

[brazen socket]

Hms meta revival

Lmfao

Wasnt there an hms meta back then with neppy and monarch

[inner mango]

Lion good for PVP huh...

[flint python]

install NardVPN to see it

[nimble fox]

Is the spreadsheet updated for Lion and her titties I mean her gun?

Is Lion better than Soyuz to replace her?

[ornate lake]

Ig lion is better than any BB, try to replace everyone and see whats better for you

[brazen socket]

lion testing only recently started

because its only now people are getting her skills maxed

give it a week or 2 before we see sheet updates

[nimble fox]

From my observation, lion's gun hit super hard and fast on light targets

Even a +11 lion's gun is still better than a +13 NJ gun (on Alsace) I knew that for sure now (just try it with all my 5 turns pvp

(Again all GoT setup)

Haven't maxed out Lion yet

So definitely waiting

Imo, Lion gonna replace Musashi. Bcuz Soyuz and Alsace deal with frontline super well, and naturally, that frontline will rush the backline, so... yeah

[nimble fox]

Another stupid thought

Is Trafalgar...any good?

[ornate lake]

For pvp, no

[stable dawn]

she's as good as drake

[valid oxide]

Sushi Soy Alsus all replaced by spoot royal oak and lion trust

[ornate lake]

For pvp? Yes, they are both bad. For any other content? No. Drake is bad in any cases imo

[ornate lake]

Not sure, nut need to test

[valid oxide]

I wonder what channel we are in

[whole salmon]

Lion gun is good but not but not for Lion lol

It’s for Alsace

[ornate lake]

Idk, cuz drake is just a ship that bad in any content nowadays, that why i responded

[whole salmon]

Lion still runs 457

[stable dawn]

drake is good
in bed

[whole salmon]

She doesn’t have preload so she’s slow af

[distant gulch]

drake is racist

[stable dawn]

[distant gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-drake-nikke-drake-drake-nikke-gif-1500393207938336589

[nimble fox]

Yeah, sadly

[nimble fox]

Try the 406 set up like Soyuz, I think it'd do more good than bad

[lusty hill]

who is she? is she good at pvp?

[distant gulch]

yes she instant win against n00bs

[junior trench]

I can't believe my eyes. The old lady is still kicking

[junior trench]

Oak, Lion, Corgi seems like a fun team, though I have to wonder, you’d probably be building Oak for specifically survivability right?

[jade heart]

Who the heck uses warspite

[trail temple]

You didn't need to scroll down that far
#pvp message

[jade heart]

~~ what did you do disarm lion ~~

[trail temple]

Read up a bit about how DoTs are factored into overall damage

[jade heart]

Oh yea that's right

Burn and flooding are not counted

Small indie company moment

[jade heart]

Where so you guys get the ranchsexcalm emote from?

[gloomy sand]

al en 🅱️v🅱️ server
invite linked on pvp sheet

[flint python]

[jade heart]

[junior moss]

lion burn is not a normal burn right?

[jade heart]

No

[junior moss]

good, was scared hass would become meta

[distant gulch]

hass who

[junior moss]

i think its a collab ship

[distant gulch]

oh ssss hass

6 main gun smokescreen that remove burn very pog

think she dies before she can shoot 6 times tho...

even if she can remove the burn lol

[valid oxide]

Dead in 9 seconds 💔

[bleak moon]

this is my formation rn, which ships can i put to improve it? I have felix schul now but idk who to replace

[fickle echo]

https://youtu.be/rEFQOq1khyY?si=2ftMMSnc9yWs5Y1i
Warspite 2025 real

[fickle echo]

You don't have Laffey II or Alsace?

[bleak moon]

nope i dont

[distant gulch]

got Lion?

[bleak moon]

no

[distant gulch]

ngl but this fleet will start dying in a few days

[fickle echo]

Replace Ancho with Felix and hope you hit enough torps to kill the enemies

[bleak moon]

gotcha

[distant gulch]

what's good about felix vs anchorage

full in attack?

[fickle echo]

Sey needs another KMS ship to get her buff

And Felix or Z52 would be the only viable options

[distant gulch]

isnt that only on her uh, fp or something

[bleak moon]

oh i also have z52

[fickle echo]

Do you have Jintsuu META or Eldridge retrofited?

[bleak moon]

nope i dont have the eld item and missing one jintsuu crystal

this was what i can come up with

[distant gulch]

pull lion, get jintsuu maxed out

[bleak moon]

theres no way to get a jintsuu crystal yet right?

[fickle echo]

Then add Z52 and either replace Ancho to make your fleet more offensive or replace Harbin and make it more defensive

[distant gulch]

she's in dossier isnt she

[fickle echo]

Is she?

[distant gulch]

idk how to access dossier lolol

but i think she was added recently

[fickle echo]

I was dead for too long to know if she was added or not

[bleak moon]

oh lemme check

[distant gulch]

ye she's here

[bleak moon]

omg LETS GOOO

[bleak moon]

maybe ill try replacing harbin first

[fickle echo]

Then use her Z52 and Shima

[bleak moon]

also im training juneau kai rn will she replace anyone?

[distant gulch]

she's pretty dead nowadays

[bleak moon]

ahh damn

[distant gulch]

alsace burned her to crisp

[bleak moon]

how would the formation look like? jintsuu meta first, z52, then shimakaze?

[distant gulch]

sandwich shima

[bleak moon]

oh ok and jintsuu and z52 doesnt matter which side?

[distant gulch]

uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh im not sure on those 2

[fickle echo]

Use Jintsuu as the tank so her skill will buff the others

[bleak moon]

gotcha

if i do end up getting lion who should i replace?

[distant gulch]

seydlitz

[bleak moon]

ok ok thanks guys!

[distant gulch]

should really, really pull for Lion

not just for pvp

[bleak moon]

ive beennnn but no luck and no more cubes

[distant gulch]

good luck

[bleak moon]

ty ty

[nimble fox]

Lion hit super hard

but she is slow af

lv 113 lion's crit deal 18k dmg per shot (+13 457mm gun, +10 black pencil, and +10 high standard fire control radar)

[distant hill]

how does the seasonal score work? does it matter who i attack or losing while defending?

[void zealot]

yes

[distant hill]

i found it in the pinned messages
"If your opponens score, !not rank!, is higher than yours by at least 35 points, you will receive more points for beating them. Bonus points scale with the difference over 35 in a myserious way. There is no way to check score outside of top 100 or asking your opponent."
how does losing while definding effect the score?

[hybrid agate]

nothing happens on defense

[void zealot]

nothing ever happens

[distant hill]

thank you

[ornate cosmos]

Can lion replace soyuz on a pvp fleet..if ur using sushi soyuz alsace?

Sorry for the dumb question..or should i wait for a week for the results of pvp testings on lion

[trail temple]

We haven't finalised everything yet

[light crystal]

[trail temple]

It would be cool to see torp memes be meta again

I think it could be really good in this meta

[junior trench]

So has there been further testing on the HMS backline?

[distant gulch]

i swapped out laffey2 for shimakaze for now

all in full attack

GOT is so dead that i havent seen any one of my attacks close to losing

[steel coral]

get with the times

[distant gulch]

🫃🏼 my ibuki is 120

aint gona raise any further

[gloomy sand]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-shame-ringing-bell-walk-of-shame-gif-13316112511080767236

[unkempt vortex]

torpmemes

[trail temple]

Looks promising

[finite fog]

[tired star]

ibuk

[lapis bolt]

Lion is destroying everything

[wary berry]

why does lions barrage miss the topmost ship, is it not centered? cuz it hits the bottomost one

[stable dawn]

because the commander is on top

[distant gulch]

[lusty hill]

Lion is bottom

[ornate lake]

a little bit more on bot side

and no fireball touch topmost enemy position

[wary berry]

i see, that makes sense if its a bit towards bottom

[ornate lake]

[valid oxide]

Because Devs want warspoot back in the meta trust

[distant gulch]

it's all fun and game until warspite gets ultimate augment with monarch and you HMS hater gonna be crying

ALL HAIL BRITTANIA

[gloomy sand]

[graceful veldt]

That barrage doesnt ALWAYS miss

[valid oxide]

Monarch would need to have a copy-paste of royal oaks skills as her aug to be good 🐎

[unkempt vortex]

what's this? Warspite getting an Augment? or its just peeps trolling me out because Lion is out?

[lusty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[brazen socket]

has anyone tested PoW yet

some crackfleet like PoW Oak Lion JintsM Ibuki Eldridge

[fickle echo]

I used her back when Lil E started but I dropped her pretty quickly, she was only good to buff USS CVs and AA since she doesn't have defensive skills like Seydlitz and her damage isn't that good

[brazen socket]

Ahhh

she doesnt buff hms bbs either

that sucks

looks like for hms fleet it would still be spoot

[junior trench]

Is Warspite with Lion & Oak for sure better than Vanguard with them?

[brazen socket]

would neptune work?

her aug makes her pretty tanky

[fickle echo]

I tried Vanguard/Oak/Lion and it didn't do that well because both Vanguard is frail and only buffs damage instead of doing damage herself

Vanguard/Alsace/Lion works better if you want to use Vanguard

[nimble fox]

I tried Lion

[nimble fox]

she is Soyuz on steroid

[nimble fox]

interesting choice for main fleet

[distant gulch]

feel like these testing dont mean anything anymore

you put Lion and you're guaranteed to win against current def lineup

i want to see Lion vs Lion

[nimble fox]

already happened

damn, I wish I screen cap that

[nimble fox]

yes, throw Soyuz out, she is eh now

[valid oxide]

throw alsace and sushi out too, clearly hms is the meta forever

[distant gulch]

idk about soyuz

feel like musashi is the one getting booted

[nimble fox]

idk, maybe, some testing are needed

Musashi hit backline super hard, feel like Soyuz is the one that need to be booted

Soyuz in that line up proven to be the least consistent with her attacks and barrages

at least musashi finish off the backline for Jinntsuu META, that makes the playfield in ur advantage

Soyuz didn't do that consistent enough

Plus, Lion is Soyuz's gear rn work better than Soyuz

[valid oxide]

your jintm isnt oneshotting?

[nimble fox]

yup, not always

not in bad shape neither

[valid oxide]

no blacktorp 🚮

[nimble fox]

(please don't pecker me, I don't have rat aa)

[valid oxide]

also if you dont have rat then use staag smh

[nimble fox]

not really, having rat next month

[valid oxide]

no point using 57mm when CVs are deader than ever

10 hit > better aa against 0 planes

[nimble fox]

but I do run in to Amagi CV lineup from time to time

[valid oxide]

lion kills them anyway

[nimble fox]

yeah, but my lion is not there yet, just testing her lol. She is Lv 115

and already perform better than Soyuz

[valid oxide]

then stop running 57mm jintm if your lion is so good

[finite fog]

she also performs better than musashi and alsace

[nimble fox]

yes

but Soyuz is the worst among 3

so she has to go

[finite fog]

is your soyuz geared properly?

that doesn't sound right

[nimble fox]

I don't have a 2nd admiral FCS, so this has to do

[brazen socket]

why no blacktorp?

[valid oxide]

shell in pvp

[nimble fox]

bcuz I have rainbow torp +13

[valid oxide]

you want both on jintm

[brazen socket]

do both

[nimble fox]

but then who gonna put on goldburn?

[brazen socket]

... no one?

[valid oxide]

bro is acting like goldburn is pearls tears <//3

[nimble fox]

I don't have other gimmick gear

[nimble fox]

pearl tear on Alsace

she always die first, it make more sense that way

[valid oxide]

yeah that loadout is fine

goldburn jintm and shell soyuz isnt though <//3

[nimble fox]

I don't have other gimmick gear on the chart

I played late (since 2022)

[finite fog]

fcr where

[nimble fox]

wdym for where?

[finite fog]

where is your fcr for alsace

[valid oxide]

im pretty sure they are doing flag pearl alsace

[finite fog]

you never skip fire control radar

[junior trench]

If HMS backline ends up being viable, then that means this'll be the first time I'll have an actively meta PvP fleet since WaSD

[nimble fox]

another fcs meaning sacrifice 1st shot dmg onm vanguard

I tested out, and just prefer white shell

[finite fog]

on who

[nimble fox]

alsace

[finite fog]

who were you up against

[nimble fox]

pearl tear, white pencil compare to pearl tear, fcs

[nimble fox]

a lot of ppl

I tested that for a full season

and just don't find to like it

[finite fog]

alright, let me know when you find a real enemy with proper gear

[graceful veldt]

bro equip pearl tear as if alsace is gonna sink

[nimble fox]

comapring to Jinntsu META, laffey 2 and eldridge, she sunk before them

[distant gulch]

she's usually the first to sink in the backline tho

[nimble fox]

I ran that setup for 3 monmths, and like it a lot

[distant gulch]

pearl alsace is legit

the 2nd aux tho... now that's questionable

[graceful veldt]

dang

[nimble fox]

I explained it above

[distant gulch]

well everyone else here just disagree with white shell

myself included

[nimble fox]

perhaps, but I don't have another +13 FCS up and ready

[gloomy sand]

dented

[ornate cosmos]

If i may ask any equipment guides to use for the pvo fleet..

[vale minnow]

shell alsace is crazy

https://tenor.com/view/king-king-baldwin-king-baldwin-4-rikoamv-riko-amv-gif-8479237540916603760

[junior trench]

Who should I use instead of Jintsuu M while I'm working on getting her MLB? For Torp meme (also don't have Shima yet).

[vale minnow]

Who do you have

[lusty hill]

Ayanami with her aug

[junior trench]

Laf2, EldKai, Harbin, AyaKai, Anch. I have Noshiro but she needs levels, and Ibuki will probably be getting up and running soon. Also Felix, but she’s not at a high enough dev level and won’t be for a while.

Probably more, but I forget the other good frontline for the meta.

[gloomy sand]

no shima?

[junior trench]

No, I asked #gameplay-help a few weeks or so ago when I had hit UR pity about what to do with it, and they suggested to use it to limit break Vanguard so as to avoid using a bulin on an older UR.

[junior trench]

Forgot to tag

I was debating on grabbing Shima though at the time

Tbh though, next pity I hit will probably be after we get Musashi added to permanent, which I’ll probably use on her because I don’t have her.

[gloomy sand]

welp

manjuu nj you go

and use torpers

pray they hit

[junior trench]

I mean, I was only asking about the frontline. Because now I should be able to do triple HMS seeing how it’s seemingly viable. And since Laffey2 seems to be being fazed out, I was curious where to go from here.

Oh almost forgot, I have Z52 as well as an option

She needs to be LBd, but I could probably do that semi soon

[small phoenix]

What is the best composition for pvp?

[junior trench]

You might have to wait a week or so to ask, since with Lion's release it's in the middle of changing.

[small phoenix]

I understand...but what is the current meta?

[distant gulch]

this is the current meta

(check the pinned sheet)

[jade heart]

L meta

[distant gulch]

it's A meta

armpit meta

[distant gulch]

the cringe has started

i tried mirror but with shimakaze, lost 5 out of 5 so far

things is not looking goooooooooooooood

ok finally deleted their lion on the first few sec

1/6

this is cringe

i dont wanna see lion on def

[junior moss]

woudn't vanguard be better than musashi there or musashi is better?

[distant gulch]

i dont see how vanguard would be better

buff the torp?

maybe

[valid oxide]

Warkai better than sushi there (probably not but I love spoot 🐎)

[distant gulch]

but she's weak in killing vanguard and backline

[stable dawn]

vanguard has a global 10% damage buff lol

might be worth it

[distant gulch]

from what i observe in the mirror matchup

the first salvo decide everything, if both vanguard have leftovers

if no backline died from initial torp spam

you need some sort of fast salvo from your team

otherwise sitting duck

[stable dawn]

musashi is too slow in this meta, and her accuracy is piss. You want someone that can launch a nuke on first salvo or earlier and then win by 30s

[distant gulch]

does she?

i thought musashi fire faster even than soyuz with mk4

[stable dawn]

her lightning barrage isn't instant though and is all over the place

takes around 3-5s to finish

[distant gulch]

i guess that's true

im gonna be toxic and put lion on my def for a week

[stable dawn]

use percy too for maximum HMS

peak pvp

[distant gulch]

alsace preload turned into percy preload

more chance to hit backline?

[stable dawn]

anyway vg will burn to death from lion by like 20s

so if you can nuke their backline before they can fire using preloads, it's an ez win

[small phoenix]

Shimakaze or Laffey ll?

[vale minnow]

Uhh Laff?
What’s your fleet like

[small phoenix]

Pvp fleet

[vale minnow]

I know but frontline

Usually people
Run laff2,jintsuuM,eld retro

[junior trench]

<@&472236072743600148> scam spam

[stable dawn]

RIP, someone got hacked

[humble cairn]

/kick 740115092804468858

[chilly osprey]

nguyenlehoanganh5406#0 got kicked.

[lusty hill]

no armpit fetish but javelin is so lickable

[whole salmon]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1mcjrzDEgh?spm_id_from=333.788.videopod.episodes&p=2

Triple HMS vs Lion Alsace Soyuz torp meme defense

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1mcjrzDEgh?spm_id_from=333.788.videopod.episodes

Musashi NJ Lion vs Lion Alsace Soyuz torp meme defense

[whole salmon]

Overall triple HMS performed better

[distant gulch]

the def run lion bottom lul

but damn even with the hms backline i still see a lot of losses

[whole salmon]

Middle spot dies too quickly and out of everyone to sacrifice then it is going to be Alsace

The damage dealt by Lion Alsace Soyuz is actually ridiculous

[jade heart]

Pvp is cooked

[stable dawn]

tbh we might just be stuck in a 70% max winrate meta like during hiryuu torpmemes

[brazen socket]

its so joever

AL has repeated irl history

the british have once again taken over

[stable dawn]

[whole salmon]

[brazen socket]

Man lions dot really wiped them off quick

[whole salmon]

As long as you somehow RNG through the initial 16 sec phase you are good

And one crucial thing that is required to happen is that Soyuz needs to be dead

If Soyuz fires you are cooked

[junior trench]

If only we had a faction famous for dealing with the British ruling for too long

[brazen socket]

soyuz nuke still a threat

[whole salmon]

Frontline, backline doesn’t matter

You are already hella weakened when Lion and Alsace burnt both of them down

Once Soyuz fires they are dead

[knotty hazel]

lion burn when the opponent vanguard:

[stable dawn]

win on 1st rotation

ez game

[knotty hazel]

going to help remain ur vanguard alive

when the burn may just req ap to do more dmg to vanguard?

[stable dawn]

pvp fleet

[knotty hazel]

currently doing 1.3k burn dmg without mlb and support skill max

[distant gulch]

it's 1.8k+ maxed

[knotty hazel]

o

[trail temple]

All ur bases are belong to us

[ornate cosmos]

Uhh best gun for.lion for pvp..is it.nj gun or.fdg one..for pvp

[valid oxide]

neither

[trail temple]

Lion gun > nj gun

[junior moss]

i think fdg gun is for campaign mobbing

[ornate cosmos]

Hmm i see..is it optimal to use lion gun on pvp?

[unkempt vortex]

Its just a slightly better NJ gun at this point

[unkempt vortex]

FDG gun is usable because if you want to fire your Alsace/Lion faster than your enemy Alsace/Lion, it also pairs well considering it does not jam with the other BB guns, the only sad part is that it has one less shell than the typical NJ gun or the new Lion gun

[distant gulch]

do you guys know which one is FDG gun

feel like you guys are talking about the wrong gun

this is FDG gun https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_406mm_(SK_C/34_Prototype)#Type_0-0

[valid oxide]

I'm guessing they were thinking Georgia gun

[jade heart]

Who's gun is the 457?

[junior moss]

which is georgia gun?

[junior trench]

The rainbow gun with two barrels

[junior moss]

thought that was nj gun

[versed geyser]

NJ gun is the UR triple 406 mm

[junior trench]

No, this is NJ gun

[versed geyser]

Georgia

[versed geyser]

You can see it IRL too

[junior trench]

I already have

[junior moss]

lion is the only one of the backline with a he gun right?

[distant gulch]

no, alsace

[lime rivet]

PvP looks broken

[haughty cove]

This.. is a bug, right? Cause the previous season hasn't ended yet. Whoops, slow internet.

[lime rivet]

I've alerted staff.

[distant gulch]

lmao

what if we do pvp now, we get reimbursement?

10+10 later

pog

nvm it just freezes after match is over.....

https://tenor.com/view/dr-disrespect-desk-slap-slam-mad-gif-18781961

[junior moss]

hopefully apolomerit

[lusty hill]

Kid named wtf

All my hard work

Gone just like that

https://tenor.com/view/whyyy-gif-3239499918304579127

[trail temple]

WE'RE FREE

[distant gulch]

lmao serenity actually at 16805

lower than the rest of us at 12k

actual n00b

[fickle echo]

They finally removed PvP

[lusty hill]

is this the death of pvp that we are promised of

[jade heart]

We are finally free

[lusty hill]

turns out all our hard work and labor are for nothing

[distant hill]

should i wait for other to gain a few points or spend all my pvp entries?

[void zealot]

holy fuck did they break pvp

[trail temple]

Nah, they saved you

[void zealot]

thank god

[void zealot]

if i could just get the merit every 2 weeks that would be epic

[unkempt vortex]

I based that on the spreadsheet when they consider Alsace can use the FDG gun though, but that might be an older update so it might not be usable, but it used to be

[jade heart]

Now just remove Janus and we are saved

[clear pasture]

Oh it's broken, I was thinking why I kept freezing after match over

[lusty hill]

they killed pvp

[distant gulch]

well either way Lion does not want any of those lol

[lusty hill]

I demand compensation in merits

[distant hill]

in gems

[lusty hill]

compensation in merits and r1 eos

[void zealot]

the lion does not concern itself with FDG gun

[trail temple]

The day Serenity ever gets r1 eos

Is because no one else is playing

[jade heart]

Janus doest deserve rank 1

[trail temple]

You're right

He even loses to noobs

[jade heart]

He looses to distraction strats

[valid oxide]

Loses to triple hms (before lion released)

[distant hill]

would you even use lion in pvp?

[valid oxide]

Would you even use the best PvP ship in PvP

[distant hill]

nope, just the ships i like

[jade heart]

[gloomy sand]

no need

pvp is dead. we are unshackled

[jade heart]

pvp is dead 🥳

[junior moss]

#apolomerits

[distant hill]

its fixed

[distant gulch]

realy?

[distant hill]

yes i already finished a battle

[distant gulch]

lmfao

[void zealot]

seems like you get your points back once you finish a battle

[distant gulch]

1856

[void zealot]

we're not free anymore

https://tenor.com/view/stantwt-chained-up-chained-gif-67266779391248431

[distant gulch]

i almost posted this before you said it was fixed

was gonna say literally unplayable

[void zealot]

conduct 1 deez

[distant gulch]

[jade heart]

We were so close to breaking our shackles

[lusty hill]

Kid named it's not fixed

[distant gulch]

losers stay at rank 16k

real pro begin at 12k and already back to their position

[lusty hill]

rigged game

afraid of our power

[distant hill]

i jumped to place 500 in one fight. i dont think that works like that

[distant gulch]

it's normal

only serenity stuck at 16k

the rest of us jump super high

[zinc phoenix]

so uh if you attack rn, what happens to atk bonus to points?

[distant gulch]

good question

[zinc phoenix]

someone sacrifice themselves for the group please

also i feel like I attacked after maint then my attempts reset to 10/10

[hybrid agate]

what's your exercise screen looking like rn?

Serenity got +0 so better refresh if you see 5 digits rank

there goes your sacrifice

[distant gulch]

[jade heart]

Lmao

Are shackles are once again broken

[lusty hill]

Standing on my shoulder

Thankless sacrifice

[valid oxide]

doesnt that usually happen anyway

[lusty hill]

Never

[gloomy sand]

[deft escarp]

Is that Kalea pfp

[distant gulch]

serenity please stop writing on gameback feedback, the mods will think most of us only write garbage and wont take our serious well written feedback because of you 😭

[buoyant parrot]

rework of PvP when?

[void zealot]

as if this isn't already the case lmfao

with all the "skin feedback" by "morally upstanding contributors"

[jade heart]

Subs in pvp when

[fickle echo]

https://youtu.be/j3Xu_P5lgUs?si=4hkXNI1NWpwblw2u

It's short because I got distracted and won

[ornate lake]

so... oak rip and everyone is alive... hms suicide squad...

[junior trench]

Tbf, that's sort of her job

She's the damage sponge

[ornate lake]

at least i have a reason why i have her 125...

just for now

[light crystal]

nice thumbnail

[valid oxide]

spoot being present in the meta is surreal i love it

[junior trench]

Just like real life, she doesn’t care how old she is, she finds a way to put in work.

[stable dawn]

[lusty hill]

No

It is a valid concern and should be heard

If the mod won't tale us seriously then it is 100% their fault for not being able to take feedback and any form of criticism

If a child is hungry ask for a meal and their parents punish the child. Is it the child's fault for being hungry or is it the parents for unable to feed their child?

[vale minnow]

childs fault for being hungry

[finite fog]

your fault for not refreshing before attacking

we literally told everyone too

[lusty hill]

You guys are lost

[finite fog]

you care that much about a gamemode that no one cares about in a dying game?

[valid oxide]

Dead gamemode in oldge game

[lusty hill]

I am hungry a child that ask for meal

[valid oxide]

Unmatched bug left in for like a year 🥀

[finite fog]

serenity the type to ask for refunds when the game eos

[junior trench]

For a dying game, they sure make a lot of money.

[finite fog]

yeah because people like you eat the slop up

[junior trench]

How do you know what I do or don't do?

[finite fog]

i am omniscient

[gloomy sand]

Beware of falling coconuts. Ow

mpl ph literally peak cinema rn

[deft escarp]

Is it true that Baxia is being used there?

[fickle echo]

[gloomy sand]

yes

exp lane, roam & jungle

[deft escarp]

I heard that he's one of the top roams there

I'm using him in jg and he's pretty damn good

He hurts Lukas like crazy in early game and remains effective even in late game lol

[gloomy sand]

busted defense values

[deft escarp]

Yeah

[gloomy sand]

meta going back to sustain because burst heroes are kinda boring now

[deft escarp]

Easily hits 300 defense and 200+ magic resist with CoD and Radiant

Burst heroes are just too volatile

One death and that's the end of your snowball

[gloomy sand]

yeah just too frail sometimes

[deft escarp]

His hp is on the low side and he depends too much on his ult

So he folds against heroes like X Borg

[gloomy sand]

taking care of lukas is easier said than done

do it wrong and you get grouped by his first skill on ult

but do it right (and sustain it) and he's basically a dog on a leash

[deft escarp]

Yeah if you just survive his s1 he's done

[deft escarp]

Also why not counterpick Valentina on his ass

She's actually pretty effective

[gloomy sand]

if they're smart, they'd either ban or pick her in advance

but yeah not really a viable option when there's bigger threats to deal with during drafting phase

[deft escarp]

Ig this would mostly apply on coordinated teams

[gloomy sand]

ye

[deft escarp]

I play solo on NA so people don't really think about counter bans

[gloomy sand]

mostly on high elo, at low/med elo anything goes

[deft escarp]

Mfs still pick Hanabi and Miya while being complete ass

They somehow make Layla not work too

[gloomy sand]

legit

so much feeding that they can solve world hunger

maybe soon i'll get baxia, then another support healer

[deft escarp]

Yeah you should definitely get Baxia

He's so underrated here in NA lol

[gloomy sand]

got fredrinn and he pretty good on mid to late game fights as exp

[deft escarp]

He's good now?

[gloomy sand]

well i have made him work so far

[deft escarp]

Rn the picks here in NA don't make him good

[gloomy sand]

no one else wanna be tank in ph soloq

[deft escarp]

I can easily see him coming back in sustain meta but assassins are still everywhere and he's not tanky enough while being too easy to dodge

[gloomy sand]

Yeah the sustain junglers are niche atm

[deft escarp]

Joy is so good rn lol

She'd be goated if my teammates actually knew how to close games

[gloomy sand]

joy, haya, suyou, ling (recently)

[deft escarp]

But since people don't know how to close games even with 10k gold lead you can still lose

[gloomy sand]

Just converge near enemy base and then get picked off one by one because they don't listen to the Retreat pings

https://tenor.com/view/mlbb-spam-recall-gif-26151703

[deft escarp]

They don't know how to push multiple lanes at once

So Lord usually is required to act as a split pusher

[gloomy sand]

braincells nearly non existent on these teammates

matchmaking been really shit recently

[deft escarp]

It's always been dogshit

[gloomy sand]

can't really do shit by myself as the roam

[deft escarp]

Novaria rn is lowkey pretty nasty lol

[gloomy sand]

vision is underrated

shes better on coordinated teams

[deft escarp]

You can go full cdr and magic power with her and delete half of the enemy marksman's hp in one s2

And the vision is crazy too

If you actually lock in and pay attention then Natalia is pretty much a dead pick

[gloomy sand]

damage roamers pretty much lose effectiveness on high elo

[deft escarp]

Yeah

[gloomy sand]

also requires good micro and aggression

[deft escarp]

Only idiots pick damage roam in solo q

[gloomy sand]

I don't have the latter

[deft escarp]

They also tend to pick damage roam when there's no tank

[gloomy sand]

pick off drafting, which is ok ig

[deft escarp]

Ngl Novaria is pretty good at keeping people in their base lol

[gloomy sand]

but it get equalized when they also die to being picked off by enemy team

[deft escarp]

Constant vision with s2 and ult at full cdr means it's difficult to ambush your team and you can constantly poke anyone coming out to force them back to heal

[gloomy sand]

pretty much a win in all but name

[deft escarp]

Yeah

[gloomy sand]

while ur teammates also clear objectives before pushing

[deft escarp]

Her s1 slow also really nasty with Ice Queen Wand

[gloomy sand]

soft cc

[deft escarp]

She's basically the quintessential mid support

[gloomy sand]

don't forget the larger hitboxes from her ultimate

[deft escarp]

Yeah

[gloomy sand]

ez snipe

[deft escarp]

Ult reveal followed by losing half your hp half a second later with s2 is nasty

Sometimes you can instakill if you combine it with Flameshot and fed enough

[gloomy sand]

skypiercer

[deft escarp]

I don't use it lol

Too niche now after the nerf

[gloomy sand]

ah, fair enough

the missing link usually the teammates here for novaria

[deft escarp]

It's more like there's better items to use imo

[gloomy sand]

yeah, at that point it'd be better on using cdr instead for team plays

[deft escarp]

You could probably do more damage with some other item late game even with full stack Skypiercer

Like Lightning Truncheon

[gloomy sand]

haven't been playing midlane ever since I found out I sucked at it

[deft escarp]

I found this build to be really nasty on her lol

[gloomy sand]

ye

hmm, you buy boots first right

[deft escarp]

Yes

[gloomy sand]

for early and midgame

then lategame you sell for holy crystal

[deft escarp]

I use support emblem with agility, wilderness blessing and impure rage for talent so I have max cdr and mobility

[gloomy sand]

||how long can we chat about this before people us||

[junior trench]

So, Azur Lane, cool game. Y’all heard of it before?

[deft escarp]

Nah I actually sold boots for lantern

[gloomy sand]

Oh, I see

[deft escarp]

Ig I'll just ping you on offtopic lol

[gloomy sand]

Would it be better if it was the last item tho?

ok, back to programming

[knotty hazel]

aint no way just used lion to beat someone with 3k power above me with dr 🤣

pvp be getting easier soon

[distant gulch]

power metric is useless

[rich mulch]

had to retreat from a lion user earlier today

mine isnt maxed out so there is nothing i can do

[hybrid agate]

[hybrid agate]

who is the culprit lion user?

[rich mulch]

i dont remember

i just know i gave up after restarting a bunch of times

but she took musashi's place

[hybrid agate]

[lusty hill]

The lion doesn't concern with weak fleet

[hybrid agate]

I will hunt those lion enjoyers

https://tenor.com/view/liam-neeson-i-will-find-you-taken-gif-5593626

[lusty hill]

Lion need breast reduction surgery

[distant gulch]

no she needs my arms

[lusty hill]

Please grow and change as a person

[sour oasis]

It just hit me that Lion is HMS.
Is Belfast and smoke going to return to PVP Meta?

[vale minnow]

no

[lusty hill]

No but janus will

[distant gulch]

yo anus will

when it gets the Lionflame

it will burn janus

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1236261530786336768.webp?size=56

🔥

[ornate lake]

"Janus well done"...

[lusty hill]

What's the best position for lion? Top or bottom?

[flint python]

ask her

[distant gulch]

top

her barrage wave is kinda weirdge, it's > but the top part doesn't really hit, or maybe im blind and the hitbox still hit

[flint python]

torp from torp bombers work like that too it's off centered

[lusty hill]

Her barrage doesn't get affected by her position

[distant gulch]

no shit

[lusty hill]

Unless you mean that top is the most protected position

[distant gulch]

but her barrage has a pattern

and the > pattern doesn't cover the whole map

[lusty hill]

Yeah so she get the safest position?

[distant gulch]

to protect yourself from enemy's lion barrage yes

still get the burn anyway

lol

[lusty hill]

Why she get the safest considering she has the highest damage reduction compared to soyuz or alsace?

[distant gulch]

just die slower

do you want your lion to die by 15s or not

[lusty hill]

No BB die by 15s

Unless by torps

[distant gulch]

nvm tlaking to you is kinda dumb

[lusty hill]

If a teacher refuses to taught a student, is it the student's fault or the teacher fault?

[bright mauve]

Who are you in this scenario

[lusty hill]

I am just a mere student

[void zealot]

https://imgur.com/ew4f52r

[grim solar]

Wtf.

[unkempt vortex]

|| You don't wanna see me rage||

[lusty hill]

:ranchSexCalm:

[trail temple]

Damn, Mori roasted Serenity

https://tenor.com/view/burned-food-wtf-gif-22978287

[rich mulch]

just fought another lion user

lion powercreeped so much that she can still cook the current meta with royal oak and warspite

laffey ii levels of if you dont use her you dont even get a chance of winning

[valid oxide]

laffii is the most replaceable in the current vanguard now that lion has been introduced

[lusty hill]

How is laffey replaceable

Makes no sense

If alsace burn doesn't kill laffey then lion dps won't do too

[valid oxide]

because torp memes exists and eldkai isnt getting replaced in torpmemes <//3

[distant gulch]

because laffey's summon spread the fire like dried grass in wildfire

using laffey is actually killing your vanguard faster

shimakaze feels sucks to use tho

if eldridge doesnt activate the rng, she just dies

lol

so fragile

[valid oxide]

we need shima META with a zombie skill copy pasted from jintm

[distant gulch]

real

[valid oxide]

or a prowler but hp instead of eva

[distant gulch]

2k hp

[valid oxide]

ijn manjuu when

[rich mulch]

just read lion's defense skill

reducing enemy torp crit rate and crit dmg is so detrimental

to the current meta

the lion does not concern herself with funny torp memes

[valid oxide]

lion also has like 3k less hp than sushi, and torps dont need to crit to deal a bunch of damage unless your name is unzen or ibuki

the torp crit debuff is like the least impactful out of that skills effects

[lusty hill]

Doesn't make sense

[distant gulch]

it's supposed to compensate her low hp

with all the dmg reduction buff she has

no idea how that maths out in the end though

gotta ask the maths nerd to calculate it out

[rich mulch]

ah i see why my torps were so weak

royal oak tanked the dmg for warspite and lion

[valid oxide]

royal oak my beloved

[rich mulch]

i understand the comp choice now

[distant gulch]

😭 i dont wanna raise oak to 125

[rich mulch]

the future is british i guess

[valid oxide]

wdym you dont wanna raise a ship to 125 who literally only has use in 1 single pvp fleet and nowhere else in the game

[distant gulch]

i'll raise her if dev give her a lewd skin

she looks very bully-able too..

fuck it i'll throw her to opsi mob LOL

[valid oxide]

pvp bully her because her only purpose is to die for other ships

i wonder if she can make use of pearl

[fickle echo]

I tried and it wasn't good because her invincibility skills sometimes keeps her alive longer than the other BBs

[worldly ore]

Maybe NJ can be a thing again, if Warspite snipe becomes a thing

Equip NJ with Manjuu, put her in top corner, and now all three HMS backline ships are specifically shooting at the one ship that can't sink for a bit

[distant gulch]

[junior trench]

The reason she can cook with those I'd argue less her being big powercreep, but more so they have really good synergy with her. Warspite covers the one area she doesn't, while Oak helps you squishy BBs to be not squishy.

Don't misunderstand though, she is big powercreep.

[gloomy sand]

ari

[whole salmon]

We realized that instead of sacrificing the entire backline to Lion Soyuz, you only need to sacrifice 1 and that is Royal Oak

[whole salmon]

Warspite isn’t the issue, if anything she’s the least impactful on the comp

Warspite is there cus she’s HMS and the fact that Lion’s initial burn doesn’t reach top most position

The issue is that Lion would burn your backline so much that whenever Soyuz fires, it is dead

And the issue with Soyuz is that she practically outspeeds every single BB in pvp currently in terms of burst damage

If your Soyuz is alive and enemy Soyuz is dead after the initial 16 sec, you practically already won

[fickle echo]

I think the best counter to Soyuz is Eldridge if she doesn't trigger or die before Soyuz barrage and the vanguard gets targeted

[fresh dove]

[fickle echo]

It's funny when all the barrage aims at the vanguard and doesn't do anything

[whole salmon]

Eldridge RNG gaming

Absolute cinema

[knotty hazel]

its so sastifying to see the first time lion skill hit enemy vanguard too

what a key 16s

[jade heart]

Whats the new meta comp

[distant hill]

this here
@jade heart

[jade heart]

Thank you

[distant gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/957945695489392680.webp?size=56

[junior trench]

Gottem

[light crystal]

[jade heart]

Its him its pvp himself

[light crystal]

I hate this unit. I was winning decisively, as in my backline like half HP top his dead backline, but the fires ended killing my backline as well anyway, and it coming down to 1v1 with the Laffey

[hybrid agate]

@lusty hill thanks for the safe 6/10

[jade heart]

Who is pink hair?

[light crystal]

Anson.

[jade heart]

Is she event limited ?

[vale minnow]

no

she is free

[jade heart]

From where

Where do I get

[vale minnow]

merit shop rotation

[stable dawn]

[marsh sand]

[lusty hill]

You guys should stop being ironic

Do better next time

[lusty hill]

Seydlitz is hot

Perfect breast size

[junior trench]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-line-anthony-mackie-sam-wilson-falcon-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-gif-21182970

[knotty hazel]

we aint mentioning lion deleting opponent vanguard in 12 secs

[vale minnow]

Skill issue, just install hacks and kill Lion in one millisecond

[junior trench]

Just use Takao, she can clear fights in four seconds

[brazen socket]

anybody got any gearing I can copy

[hybrid agate]

should be pretty similar to Ari's vid #pvp message. the rest could be the same as in the sheet.

[lusty hill]

Guys is royal oak unironically good now

[whole salmon]

The Seydlitz idea could also be good

It’s between her and Royal Oak currently

[hybrid agate]

Pseudo preload and unsinking

[whole salmon]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1pu7szNEhA/?spm_id_from=333.1387.list.card_archive.click

Seydlitz Musashi Lion vs Alsace Soyuz Lion

(Musashi top)

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1pu7szNEhA?spm_id_from=333.788.videopod.episodes&p=2

(Same comp but Musashi bottom)

Basically 1 comp where Musashi avoided Lion's barrage, 1 comp where Musashi doesn't

Musashi avoiding Lion's barrage led to 90% win rate, Musashi facing Lion's barrage led to 80% win rate

If enemy Lion is middle then tough luck lmao

[deft escarp]

Lion evaded me and I have no more cubes lol

[light crystal]

Lion is the most OP (Bugged) ship to date.

It's like auto-win against non-Lion users....

So effed up.

[ornate cosmos]

Seyd in mid yea?and on alsace lion soyuz comp whos in mid lion?

[nimble fox]

is the spreadsheet updated yet?

[nimble fox]

Yamato will be in war thunder next patch

one shotting every ships it sees

[ornate cosmos]

Dont make my heart cope.too much for this yr..ahhaha

[ornate cosmos]

Come onn ahhaha

[nimble fox]

massive dildo fly straight to an unsuspecting canoe

[flint python]

nahhh yamato will be a support ship

morale boost

[nimble fox]

I love war thunder for the fact that u can hit a PT boat with another PT boat worth of explosive

eviscerate those poor lil tadpoles with a 460mm HE shell

[lusty hill]

Lion is the new laffey2

[nimble fox]

damn, it'd be crazy if Lion stays in the vanguard line

[lusty hill]

She does tho

The lion doesn't concern himself with positions

[flint python]

in the jungle the mighty jungle

[trail temple]

Themself*
Ftfy

[lusty hill]

:ranchSexDoorPeek:

[lusty hill]

what's the best gear skin for trafalgar in pvp?

[distant gulch]

your mother

[lusty hill]

that's not nice

do better next time

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-gif-24337002

[distant gulch]

your father

[lusty hill]

not good enough

try again

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-gif-24337002

[graceful veldt]

Diddy oil skin

[lusty hill]

can someone with a real and unironic answer stand up

[nimble fox]

Is Lion replacing Soyuz a better idea, or musashi

[ornate cosmos]

Are u testing traff on pvp..ohh interesting..pls help this guy... guyss

[distant gulch]

let him cook

[floral wave]

why so rude towards your mother

[fresh dove]

[wary berry]

this one cuz it looks extremely cool so everyone who fights you will forfeit 100% (atleast I will )

[gloomy sand]

i need a gear skin thats just job application letters as the cosmetic

[wary berry]

what's the 3 cv pvp meta rn? against non meta fleet users ie
would wyvern still dominate 3cv pvp meta? kinda feels counterintuitive to use parallel in pvp

[vale minnow]

amagicv, shinano,hiryuu/akagi
youd need like 5 wyverns , not to mention full +13 and still lose
no they dont dominate meta because cv meta is dead, frog aa put the nail in the coffin or something

[wary berry]

ohh I see, thx for telling me regardless

btw what's the newbie bog standard main fleet for newbie similar to this? (Assuming I have Lion)
Im finding it impossible to get under 1k rank so wanna work on pvp fleet more

[vale minnow]

depends what you have

[wary berry]

i hv enty, franklin, unicorn, perseus, maryland, colorado, saratoga, ark royal
can get any other ship from any shop if needed

[vale minnow]

no UR bb?

[wary berry]

no, only lion for now
ig ill get biszwei when she reruns

[vale minnow]

fdg nowhere?

[wary berry]

no, i focused on hms and ffnf points instead for ply and brest

[vale minnow]

probably, lion,maryland enty or something idk

[gloomy sand]

can do lion nj warspite

though nj will take a while

[vale minnow]

♿

Hms rare appearance

[wary berry]

I have royal oak mlbed, will she work unironically?

only for non meta fleets, no one under 1k rank uses meta fleet anyways, most just use full ur fleets
so i just want something that'll counter that

[gloomy sand]

her kit synergize well with lion and warspite, given how frail the latter is.

🐌

[vale minnow]

just be like this guy

[gloomy sand]

mine's lvl 104, i havent been on the grind on 12-2 for a while

[wary berry]

ohh I see, ig ill see if tmr's shop brings me warspite, and go for that fleet if i get warspite