pvp

[dreamy prism]

[late heath]

steame

[mortal aspen]

Heh, pvp be like

Got few same bugs but not often

Btw any pvp tier ships list? Or what's meta?

[gloomy sand]

there is a pinned comment linking the AL PvP sheet

[mortal aspen]

Yeah, I'm looking already. Thx

[trail temple]

Beating a high level commander with a meta fleet
Beating up a low level commander

[late heath]

Beating up my body with no sleep

[distant gulch]

Beating yuudachi with meat

[grim solar]

[distant gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/704763237488394351.webp?size=56

[fresh dove]

waduh

[distant gulch]

🍖 poi

[fresh dove]

I found that z52 is better than shimakaze vs foxwall

[distant gulch]

i just headbutt with the same team

reset until my vanguard wins

ez

[void zealot]

this is true

[fresh dove]

there was indeed hidden strats

[blazing orbit]

leak

[fresh dove]

just join the server in the pinned sheet's link, it's very interesting actually

we are literally cooking

[trail temple]

We?

[fresh dove]

banana bread

[trail temple]

I don't see any banana bread from Stinky

[gloomy sand]

GEAR LAB UPDATE SOON

[fresh dove]

[grim solar]

Craftable Tenrais.

[lusty hill]

It's over for BB

[trail temple]

I hope you can swap to triple CV then Serenity

[mystic wren]

A Laff II with manjuu still something disgusting

[mortal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-doro-doro-nikke-doro-dance-nikke-doro-dance-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-2518230932392250871

sigma sigma boy sigma boy

[late heath]

Triple CV mean Shinano, Shinano mean bringing Kashino to buff her, this mean that Kashino become even more meta

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-sometimes-my-genius-almost-frightening-driving-car-ride-gif-16463163

[stable dawn]

manjuu kashino

[sonic portal]

Can somebody help me figure out if there is a way to beat Jintsuu META in pvp. Is it even possible?

[hybrid agate]

mirror it, and use your own Jintsuu Meta

it would depend on your fleet comp, the fleets on the pvp tierlist could usually kill JintM easily.

[sonic portal]

I just checked out the tier list and I’m cooked. I wasn’t playing when Jintsuu META came out and every recommended fleet comp vanguard has her front and center. If enemy commander runs meta main line it’s literally impossible to beat. I guess the only strat is to wait until she becomes farmable so I can pick her up and run the same vanguard as everyone else…

[hybrid agate]

any of the other 3 Vanguard comp(Substandard, Stall, Neo-stall) without JintM could still beat it. Your Main Fleet deals the dmg to kill JintM most of the time. if you can get any of the Tier 0 fleets up and running you'll be in good shape. Tier 1-2 would be fine but require a few resets to beat the upper tiers.

[sonic portal]

I have musashi, Soyuz, and Alsace but only musashi and sometimes Alsace survives the initial onslaught. Only my musashi gets the chance to fire off her gun before kicking the bucket. Hmm…

[hybrid agate]

what else are your running? you might need to use faster guns. can you show your gears, one screenshot of each ship you are using will be fine.

[sonic portal]

I think you are right about main fleet gear. I’m stacking rainbow vomit but I’m going to try to re organize

[hybrid agate]

ok cool

check the gears section of the pvp guide for recommended setup

[trail temple]

Pearl alsace is my new best friend

[fresh dove]

I just put pearl on shima cause I would reset if alsace died xD

[shell raft]

Personally, I run Pearl Manjuu Sushi

Highly recommend it

[lusty hill]

real man don't use pearl

no insurance shit

accept defeat and move on with the game

[fresh dove]

manjuu sushi

[distant gulch]

i use beaver

[shell raft]

The question is does Pearl count as rainbow gear or as SSR gear

[trail temple]

I have an idea. In the event we pull down the pvp spreadsheet for some maintenance, I think we should refer all PvP queries to Serenity, Doggo and Puddo, what do you think?
@brazen socket I need your expert opinion on this. I think this will definitely make the PvP environment better

[brazen socket]

I am fully on board!

Truly insightful thoughts amongst the community

[fresh dove]

skip

[trail temple]

We got mod support so we'll be directing queries your way should this eventuate

[fresh dove]

I haven't even EoS a single time

[vale minnow]

same guy who was sure on a 2600+ finish

[fresh dove]

Yesh I am sure I can do 3200+ finish

[vale minnow]

this sounds like a wonderful idea

[trail temple]

They are THE Experts after all

I wasn't joking about the maint part btw

[gloomy sand]

is the maint 8 years long

+2 for good measure?

[brazen socket]

Oh maint?

I assume the sheet is gonna on a overhaul

[trail temple]

A clean up

[trail temple]

Bit of this too

But I am sure our identified experts can help in the mean time while the sheet is down

[brazen socket]

Ohhh

[vale minnow]

Just add a +2 to every set to guarantee a 2600 finish

[stable dawn]

we can go back to the old days where everyone copied youtubers for pvp advice

[lusty hill]

God grant us the serenity to be better at pvp

[ornate cosmos]

Guys question..is napoli a great ship for pvp..and also curious if z52 is very viable option for pvp..thanks

[hybrid agate]

Napoli is not bad but she relies on timed smokes, Anchorage is a better pick. and yes z52 is a viable 3rd alongside Laffey II and Eldridge Retro if you don't have Jintsuu META

[ornate cosmos]

But what if i have jint meta sir..is z52 still better to replace the trinity of the vanguard pvp fleet..

[lusty hill]

No

[ornate cosmos]

Hmm i see got it

[lusty hill]

Jintsuu meta is the best vanguard ship in pvp

[ornate cosmos]

Hai hai got it..

[steel coral]

laffey next up on the chopping block

[ornate cosmos]

So to clarify..the comp of sushi..soyuz.and alsace in main and jint meta.eldridge kai and laff ii are ig the best comp for pvp

That comp can be countered yet still the best pvp comp..yea?

[lusty hill]

Truth moment: the addition of jintsuu meta is more significant than laffey2 in pvp meta since practically make shimakaze obsolete

[lusty hill]

The comp can be countered by itself

[shell raft]

But Laffey II, and Eldridge Kai, made this whole PvP mechanic obsolete:
After both vanguards die, the remaining ships gain a 300% + 300 Reload buff (essentially halving all airstrike/gun fire cooldowns)

[stable dawn]

pvp is dead

[bright mauve]

The addition of Serenity is more significant than Laffey2 in pvp meta since practically makes playing obsolete

[trail temple]

@hybrid agate Why are you helping Serenity with his role?

[hybrid agate]

I was on a break, I did help once then realized what's going on, and just super reacted afterwards

[trail temple]

[hybrid agate]

[junior trench]

Oh boy, I can't wait to not get the new PVP meta UR again

[distant gulch]

it's italy

no chance they will be meta

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1215889639966117908.webp?size=56

[junior trench]

True. || Italians would be too laid back to take an active role in a meta ||

[gray harbor]

What the hell we have a pvp thread???

[vale minnow]

channel yes

well to climb rank is rly simple, just use all your daily attacks

[gray harbor]

In 4 days do you think I can reach it

[fair trail]

No. Don't worry about it, just take it easy and use all your attacks next season.

[gray harbor]

How to climb up the rankings, I wanna be at rear admiral,

I think my discord is bugging

[vale minnow]

yea lol

just consistently do your exers each day

[fair trail]

If you want to optimize a little more than that, fight the leftmost opponent you can beat. If you exit out before the defeat screen, it doesn't count, so you can try even if you're not sure.

[trail temple]

Couple of things, you won't get it this season, you're too far behind. Always a next season though!
If you need meta help, I am sure @lusty hill, @fresh dove and @mortal trench will give you the advice you need. Hope this helps!

[fresh dove]

[lusty hill]

giving up strats

[fresh dove]

fybredoggo strats of overcapping

[grim solar]

Use Mafia and you will climb in no time.

[stable dawn]

climb to the afterlife

but be careful, pvp hell is a real place

[grim solar]

[stable dawn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1095704435822444576/1174609270432595968/PvPHell.gif?ex=65683721&is=6555c221&hm=ced5c10606b470dc7e30f08a76ced56574e3ae628abac86ad51c8a8d688758ee&

[trail temple]

Ooh baby Hell is a place on Earth

[grim solar]

What kind of fleet is Lucifer wielding?

[vale minnow]

full bulin

[trail temple]

The dn fleet

[stable dawn]

the gspot fleet

(for context, it was actually a real comp)

[vale minnow]

tamaki

[lusty hill]

you're psyopping

[grim solar]

Tamamaki.

[steel coral]

tamaki > alsace

[stable dawn]

no it was from 2023

[lusty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[trail temple]

Serenity can't tell the difference between "is" and "was"

Either that, or he's saying he couldn't find it

[stable dawn]

[mortal trench]

you ping me

i will eat you alive

and smell you

[vale minnow]

@mortal trench hi my level 200 fleet died to 3 bulins
how to fix

[mortal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-funny-memes-meme-dint-gif-24828835

[trail temple]

https://tenor.com/view/get-to-work-work-simpsons-smithers-trendizisst-gif-15496843

These people need help!

[mortal trench]

[mystic wren]

[grim solar]

I'm curious as to what would happen to the pinned PvP document if you let Serenity and Puddo have complete, unfiltered, unmoderated access.

[mortal trench]

[vale minnow]

it probably wont be a pvp doc anymore

[trail temple]

Curiosity kills the cat

[vale minnow]

except the cat completely explodes

[trail temple]

That's the facade

[distant gulch]

as you can see, only 1 single person is in the picture

that is a nod to only serenity will be left in this channel if that happens

[stable dawn]

Player vs Self

[granite fern]

Complete and utter annihilation.

[shell raft]

Tamaki good

[granite fern]

👍

[late heath]

She’s very squishy, but not as much as Kashino

[grim solar]

This is uh... a rule breaking emoji.

[late heath]

Is it? I thought Kashino swimsuit outfit is fine

[grim solar]

It's putting emphasis on the tiddies.

Which, y'know, falls under that asset snipping rule or whatever it's called.

[fresh dove]

15 hit

[brazen socket]

Guys

New rainbow aa

15 hit padding with aa comparablr to 57mm

[fresh dove]

486 elec

[hybrid agate]

[gloomy sand]

the img on right is new 76mm UR AA

[mortal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/worldfitvault-fitnes-gym-exercise-healthy-gif-3561456347512918085

if you do this workout

ur pvp skills

will increase

@vale minnow take notes

[vale minnow]

[fresh dove]

Fixed the problem that in some cases, the special barrage will be triggered in advance when the shields of Admiral Hipper META’s skill “Hot-and-Cold Armaments” are not completely destroyed;

Fixed the problem that the attribute enhancement effect of Admiral Hipper META’s skill “Hot-and-Cold Armaments” does not end normally when the shields disappear due to the end of the duration;

Is this the one causing the bug?

[whole salmon]

Is this how CV meta dies

Them releasing good af Rainbow gun that is combination of Sextuple and Staag

[distant gulch]

maybe italy UR will make CV super meta

[grim solar]

Inb4 it's an Italian AA focused CL.

[distant gulch]

UR CL, in today's economy?!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1195591184521908264.webp?size=56

[lusty hill]

UR cl will replace helena in pvp

[gloomy sand]

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-burrowing-heaven-lobotomy-corporation-project-moon-gif-3272424626579917974

[junior trench]

This is so strange. The game focused on WW2 ships, the war known for killing the supremacy of Battleships and replacing the role with Carriers, has created a meta where Battleships are much better choices than carriers.

[brazen socket]

at least here bbs have something over carriers

cvs have it better in the pve environment

lol

[junior trench]

Eh, IDK, I'd honestly disagree.

[versed geyser]

CVs do more damage in all 3 armour types + have best healer but have a higher development cost

[brazen socket]

Better equipment, better variety
the fact that each of them support each other
they do better performance at the cost of you needing more investment, if you give them that investment you are greatly rewarded

BBs are always competing at a spot against each other, and the fact that shells are the way that they are

pvp is a way better environment for bbs due to the fact they have their high damage in shorter amounts of time independent of supports, we haven't really had any cv attacker resurgence in a while that is consistent though you can chalk it up to the fact devs have completely given up making any cvs that will perform well in pvp

[void zealot]

invested CVs in campaign and opsi absolutely mop the floor with battleships bruh

[lusty hill]

It takes real brain to use CV while with BB you just slap champy gun

[blazing orbit]

real brain might be an exaggeration

more like half brain vs quarter brain?

[stable dawn]

CVs have a way higher damage ceiling but also a way higher investment requirement lol

[whole salmon]

Yeah, in pvp it comes mostly down to how CVs are played

The investment req is too high

Couple that with the fact majority of the damage is wasted

Then you have a not so fun experience

[whole salmon]

This is already after the concealment mechanic introduction

Before concealment was a thing, CVs were dead for a really long time

[whole salmon]

Now after the recent update

People can slap 6 Rainbow AA guns

And it functions both like a Staag and like a Sextuple

[distant gulch]

people that use CV in pvp

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1012288696336273428/1285458423923736617/4FDFC6CCE0812EE2C3B264838EE35CBA_0.gif?ex=67b801f2&is=67b6b072&hm=3e32f8c797912011bb5ebca72f5381a22e6a3cad26d41626969ec60218c20f4b&=

[gloomy sand]

[junior trench]

Tbh, there needs to be some equipment that lets you change the bombing patterns of your planes.

[fresh dove]

end of foxwall?

[stable dawn]

end of pvp

[junior trench]

I'm upset now tbh, I literally was almost finished leveling all three of them up to a standard of usability in PvP, and now I didn't even get the chance to use them. I am literally cursed to not have a good PvP team. Literally been happening to me since the beginning of the game, where I didn't get SoDak going until right after they stopped being meta.

[vale minnow]

a fox wall isnt good unless fully built anyways

[junior trench]

I know, I'm saying mine was almost fully built

[junior moss]

it was just a defense team tho

[vale minnow]

+13 wyverns?

[junior trench]

Well, no

[stable dawn]

the best defense team is your attack team

[vale minnow]

there you go

[junior moss]

why even bother to do a defense team at all

[junior trench]

LOL, so rude

[stable dawn]

the wyverns are the main cost tbf

5x +13 is not cheap

[junior trench]

Why Wyvern when Barracuda

[stable dawn]

rockets will whiff on laffey drones

[junior trench]

Not with that attitude

[mortal trench]

to make others suffer

[junior moss]

i just slap some 125 i don't use with no gear so others can farm exp(defense ofc )

[wicked surge]

The fox walls are defensive though, so that basically doesn't matter until you are regarding for EOS AOtN. That's why it's called a wall

[fresh dove]

I heard it's defensive cause the backline was almost reduced to atoms with maxed planes

[lusty hill]

If you're walled by foxwall then you have skill issue

[fresh dove]

lee refresh skill and luck skill

[distant gulch]

damn serenity spitting fax for once

[fresh dove]

Cheeky EoS pace @neat atlas

even Alpha's not that high nvm he is higher

[neat atlas]

yeah I overcapped this season

so not even sure I'll make AofN this season

also why was I pinged twice

[fresh dove]

I deleted my score so nobody can see it

[vale minnow]

js rush

[fresh dove]

you can rush, or rush on second set, or rush on any set after

[neat atlas]

my score is only 2028

gotta wait still

[vale minnow]

my score is shite

[versed geyser]

Everyone can tell your score if they check PvP LB 15 sec before reset at this stage, no point

[stable dawn]

imagine trying to hide your pace

[mortal trench]

Bru

I was doing PvP and I fell asleep during a match and didn’t retry and lost

[vale minnow]

skill issue

[mortal trench]

The only issue I see is us not together

[vale minnow]

[stable dawn]

doro diff tbh

[mortal trench]

What did you just say

[finite fog]

[lusty hill]

Cheeky pvp

Next grey is pvping and spread misinformation

[fresh dove]

gotta do it for the formality 🤝

[late heath]

The real pvp is the friends that you made by checking their scores along the way

[trail temple]

You should be doing a better job helping others so they don't spread misinfo

[boreal parcel]

With how much Eldridge broke pvp, now we need a ship with a skill which insta kills the lowest HP ship in opposing fleet to counter her

[trail temple]

Or an invul breaker

[lusty hill]

It's called jintsuu meta if her torps hit

[fresh dove]

[distant gulch]

my uncle who works for yostar janitor at the 10th floor in china just wechat me an hour ago, saying the new italy UR will autowin pvp if she is unattacked for 5s

[lusty hill]

That's just anchorage

[distant gulch]

anchorage is noob

[grim solar]

Anchorage cute.

[void zealot]

anchorage cute

#1 cutest in world

[distant gulch]

anchorage is boob

[steel coral]

all and no

[void zealot]

just the way i like it

[grim solar]

[lusty hill]

Why are you guys like this

[distant gulch]

shaddap, she is boob!!!!!

[void zealot]

booba!

[gloomy sand]

https://tenor.com/view/im-going-to-touch-you-jjk-anime-touch-mahito-gif-2716664414975178555

[trail temple]

That's strange, because I heard that it was gonna be Bismarck Drei

[distant gulch]

ironblood, in today's economy?!

[junior moss]

we need goldenblood

[smoky prism]

There a reason i can not access the pvp google sheet? at least it says i need permission

[hybrid agate]

it is under maintenance right now, in the meantime Serenity and his bros will help.

[mortal trench]

pvp will be now taken off of azur lane

you are free

[stable dawn]

pvp is canceled

[mortal trench]

ngl

im eating a bagel

[blazing orbit]

gl

im eating a bagel

[gloomy sand]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-touch-you-touch-cat-cat-touch-i'm-gonna-touch-you-bro-i'm-gonna-touch-you-gif-8126694167872074638

[mortal trench]

I’m gonna eat you

[mortal trench]

[dreamy prism]

why am i stuck at captain

[fair trail]

Are you in the top 1000?

[dreamy prism]

nope 1131

[fair trail]

Then no promotion for you.

[trail temple]

In the mean time, ask @lusty hill @fresh dove or @mortal trench for any pvp related questions. They'll point you in the right direction

[lusty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-uncle-ben-with-great-power-comes-great-responsibility-its-true-just-saying-gif-24193883

[fresh dove]

Suhu

[torpid patrol]

is the pvp guide doc down?

[distant gulch]

no it is up

just not for you

you are banned

[lusty hill]

I am the pvp guide

[distant gulch]

maybe you are

[lusty hill]

ask and you shall be informed

[distant gulch]

who is the cutest loli?

[vale minnow]

[lusty hill]

lolicon

[distant gulch]

lolicon is the cutest loli?

[distant gulch]

says the one with janus pfp...

can Janus beat this chick standing there menacingly??

[inner mango]

[trail temple]

He is, technucally

So you should ping him for answers

[sonic portal]

PvP guide is not loading for me

[junior moss]

you need autorization to access

[sonic portal]

is this a new thing that was added? I loaded it up fine last week

[junior moss]

idk, i am not the one who updates it

[sonic portal]

man, I guess now I'm just out of luck trying to remember what musashi gun is best for PvP

[vale minnow]

its down rn

refer to the pvp experts

[vale minnow]

right here

[sonic portal]

I just need help picking out a good Musashi loadout. I seem to be beaten out by fast main fleets who do barrages non stop

[vale minnow]

run a faster gun

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_305mm_(41st_Year_Type)#Type_0-0

[junior moss]

use the blu gun

yep the one above

[sonic portal]

that looks familiar. I think that's the one I saw on the guide. Thanks!

[vale minnow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_356mm_(41st_Year_Type)_Kai#Type_0-0
or this one, if you dont have bb medal shop

[junior moss]

i think that is craftable on gear lab anyway, not 100% sure iirc it

[sonic portal]

I wish I knew about this gun before I friggin deconstructed it. I really wish AL would give you a warning before you deconstruct extremely rare stock equipment

[vale minnow]

its not rly rare

[vale minnow]

if anything just wait for medal shop rotation, and then get mikasa, and also, use this gun for now

unfortunate lil e has no bb this month

[junior moss]

you can craft it cheap af in gera lab

[sonic portal]

got it. Hopefully it works well until I can get another Mikasa. Feels bad that I have a +13 mushashi rainbow gun just sitting in my storage. Things I wish I knew when I started the game...

[junior moss]

that gun too slow for i think literally anything unfortunately

[sonic portal]

yeah, it feels like I could have went to art college, got a degree in underwater basket weaving, came back, and then the musashi gun would fire

[gloomy sand]

[vale minnow]

your entire fleet + sashi would explode b4 that thing fires lol

[late heath]

If you run French fleet, it will fire right away

[blazing orbit]

if the goal was to have a full fleet of l 120 ships that would lose as often as possible, what is the optimal setup

[late heath]

CV Kashino BB Kashino CVL Kashino CA Kashino DD Kashino Kashino

[blazing orbit]

kashino slander

[late heath]

That’s the fleet that would win as much as possible

Idk why it didn’t sent

[junior moss]

probably the slowest vanguard you can build with possibly the lowest ehp possible for backline idk, maybe bb to not wait the reveal time

[smoky prism]

Just need confirmation Edlridge wants the pearl and laffey II wants the Dmg control aux?

[junior moss]

laffey II is gonna sink last of your vanguard with a lot of consistency so no pearl for her;
perl on eldridge it depends by who sunks first between eldridge and your other vanguard with more consistency

i would probably give prowler to eldridge and damage control to laffey II, but i am no expert so...

[smoky prism]

Didnt take prowler into consideration havent had the chance to keep up to date with pvp related things, my 3rd vanguard is jintsuu meta shes running oxy trop and magnetic torp

[grim solar]

[lusty hill]

guys is Sparviero good at pvp?

[distant gulch]

maybe

ask if he likes Janus

if he likes Janus, he's good at pvp

if he dislikes Janus, he's bad at pvp

[trail temple]

Kashino > Janus

[distant gulch]

if he likes Kashino, he's pvp god

[lusty hill]

The fact that Sparviero have preload and disable opponent BB to fire is just nuts

not to mention the heal + hp shield everytime she fire airstrike si pretty broken in both pvp and pve

I think she's gonna bring huge change in the pvp meta

[steel coral]

did someone say CV meta?

[lusty hill]

even with the current AA gear, fox wall is still on the top for defense fleet

if CV is really dead, then fox wall wouln't be on the sheet at all

[finite fog]

what sheet

[wanton mango]

He knows something we dont

Truly the higher up

[steel coral]

new UR will disable enemy AA guns

true

[late heath]

Wait til new UR torpedo bulge

[distant gulch]

i already have UR torpedo bulge

[lusty hill]

show me your buldge

[distant gulch]

wtf

mod???

[lusty hill]

liars

you have no buldge

[distant gulch]

this guy is sick, wanna see my bulge

[finite fog]

real pvp

[late heath]

BvB

[junior moss]

there is no sheet atm since noone can access it

[shell raft]

Mafia comp making a return

[fresh dove]

does someone have a copy of the sheet? I'd like to know what happens during the EoS set

[shell raft]

Aren't you supposed to be the expert

[fresh dove]

no?

[hybrid agate]

you use all your exercise attempts just like any rushers would, but at the end

[fresh dove]

why though? if you rush early you have a high chance to eat negatives

[hybrid agate]

your fellow baggers are also rushing, negatives are inevitable

just get lucky

[grim solar]

Is Raffaello good in PvP?

[junior moss]

we now nothing about her skills, still D evsion is pretty sad, i think her and musashi are the only UR BB with E eva stat? wait, vanguard too

[grim solar]

That question was a joke.

[junior moss]

wait, vanguard has A aa wtf

[fresh dove]

lmao

[fresh dove]

I don't think that's gonna help :nubianSob:

[junior moss]

well, idc if she is good, i am gonna trow 200 pulls anyway

[fresh dove]

anyways gamer 12122, skills are gonna be key for pvp

[junior moss]

yep, that is what i said above too

[fresh dove]

and oh well what is pvp channel without joking and clowning

[junior moss]

hopefully no italian ship in the fleet skill

kinda curious about the new gun if it's a BB one and if it may be used for pvp, probably the fastest thing to evaluate on thursday

[lusty hill]

no

[junior moss]

she gets a skill that will make janus top tier

[grim solar]

Why not?

[lusty hill]

she won't be meta unless she has preload or do bullshit barrage damage to replace musashi

[junior moss]

just make her repplace soyuz so i can have a meta fleet

[grim solar]

What if her barrage instantly nukes all carriers and disables all of Eldridge Kai's skills.

[lusty hill]

then she will be meta

just wait for the final serenity guide evaluation

[junior moss]

anyhow the only thing we got about her skills is this

[half silo]

A Super Artist, Simply Strictly:

When battle starts: gain 50% EVA. When an enemy main fleet unit fires a barrage or an airstrike, gain a stack of „Super Artist“ (can stack up to 6 times). Upon gaining 6 stacks, activate „Super Artist - Devotion to Art“:

1. Grant shield equal to 25% of this ship‘s HP to allied vanguard for 10 seconds. If there‘s a Sardegna Empire ship in your vanguard: double the shield amount.
2. Reduce enemy DMG and ACC by 30%.
3. 10s after activating those effects: wipe the enemy fleet over a duration of 3s and win the pvp match.
   If there‘s a Kashino present in the enemy vanguard: instantly lose the fight, unless you have Janus in your vanguard.

[junior trench]

Had me in the first half ngl

[stable dawn]

kashino wins again

[junior trench]

Considering we're getting a BB, I think you're going to end up being wrong

[stable dawn]

UvH exists

[junior trench]

And how many UR BBs since then have not been meta?

[stable dawn]

Bismarck Zwei

[junior moss]

i just hope she will have use, they tend to give useless things to sardinia

[gloomy sand]

i wonder which ur bb she'll powercreep

[junior moss]

idk, her barrage seemed mid tho

[late heath]

Ultra ultra rare BB Kashino

[gloomy sand]

too early to tell

maybe ask @lusty hill @fresh dove @mortal trench for opinion

[mortal trench]

do u wanna get

oiled up

[mortal trench]

^

testing must occur in order to see this idea of reality my child

empiricism, a fundamental principle in the philosophy of science. Empiricism states that knowledge comes from sensory experience and that all hypotheses and theories must be tested through observation and experimentation to be considered factual.

[fresh dove]

I gave you my answers, so maybe ask @gloomy sand for opinion

[mortal trench]

My answer is the most scientific answer

[half silo]

scientific answer: she thicc so she good

substitute thicc with a word of your choice for even more scientific evidences

[fresh dove]

nahh, only answers from @gloomy sand and @trail temple are scientific

[junior trench]

She is good on Defense

[trail temple]

You flatter me, but no, you are THE Expert after all

[mortal trench]

You call that flatter?

How about I rizz you up

[trail temple]

You can't rizz anyone with that negative aura

[mortal trench]

What negative aura

I can rizz you up rn

https://tenor.com/view/rizz-dziadyga-can-i-get-uhh-gif-18443317180470660474

[hardy hare]

Good afternoon, when will the Google document be available for public access?!

[stable dawn]

never. PVP is over

[hardy hare]

Maybe someone has the old version saved on their computer or phone?! I would really appreciate it if you could share it.

[late heath]

Losing access to that document might actually be a blessing in disguise. Making people run different comp and figure things out instead of everyone running the same copy paste

But, it help new players

[gloomy sand]

first and foremost expert, we should follow YOUR opinion s instead

[grim solar]

It is the best time to spread misinformation.

[late heath]

Putting Essex into your fleet will improve win rate

She have 99% chance to win against fox wall

The 1% chance to lose is if the other team run Kashino

[grim solar]

Kashino destroys Laffey II and Eldridge Kai.

[late heath]

The reason why we haven’t got UR Essex and Kashino is because of how OP they already are

[finite fog]

sharing confidential information

[mortal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/lowstandards-beer-drunk-low-bar-gif-24008048

essex

will do that

to ur wr

[hybrid wigeon]

Greetings, a question, if you lose a pvp game, how much does it affect the percentage, will it be much more difficult to raise this percentage with that defeat?

[vale minnow]

percentage scales with how many you have lost/won

see how you have almost 30k battles?
losing one battle probably wont even change that number
same applies to almost everything, the more you do, less it changes

[fresh dove]

bro has 10x the amount of battles 😭

[hybrid wigeon]

Ah, I understand, but I find it difficult to know exactly how many pvp games I have lost and won without a counter.

but thanks for the details.

[vale minnow]

around 28297 won

around 815 lost

[hybrid wigeon]

wow, how did you calculate that?

[steel coral]

29113*0.972

[vale minnow]

take 97.2% of 29113, then take your answer and subtract from 29113 to get your lost games

[distant gulch]

she won't be meta, quote me on it

[hybrid wigeon]

Ah, it makes sense, I had the idea of ​​creating an equation, but I didn't know how to pose it. thank you so much.

[trail temple]

Who killed you?

[late heath]

Kashino

[stable dawn]

oh so you're redheartless

[late heath]

When you run out of reset and it’s only 5/10

[distant gulch]

🤝

[fresh dove]

2590 but still zonk

well played to everyone in Amagi though

It was definitely not a good time, literally got shit on chat, couldn't sleep while bagging, haven't familiar with my fleets and the matchups etc.

[tired star]

u did good, only 1 point off top 10

[fresh dove]

but would probably compete again once I have free time and sheet is up

[distant gulch]

amagi pvp is so sweaty wtf

[lusty hill]

You shouldn't let the sheet dictate how you play pvp

[distant gulch]

top 10 wise quote from serenity

[fresh dove]

bruh that's like probably the only source that I have

[mortal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/llama-gif-18211966262603190326

[fresh dove]

I didn't know EoS climb can give you +6 so I just went +0 for 10/10 so I can chain

EoS climb probably defying all probability law

[narrow aspen]

Just snipe an easy fleet

[gloomy sand]

git gud @fresh dove

[distant gulch]

pilica is back

[fresh dove]

me with 2lb jintsuum

[tired star]

jintsu meta will prob be added to dossier soon

[distant gulch]

new italy DD will be more meta

maybe shoot 69 torpedo at once

[stable dawn]

new skill: removes pvp from the game

[trail temple]

Sounds great

[void zealot]

i'm all for it

[versed geyser]

Could probably give you +7 if you roll well enough

[vale minnow]

i got a +0 from the eos climb

[mortal trench]

HAWK TUAH

https://tenor.com/view/5x30-5x30-meme-workout-meme-funny-gif-4708139388495004638

[autumn yacht]

So why Eldridge want the Prowler

[hybrid agate]

Eldridge needs it to survive the early barrages/torp so she can proc OR+ consistently. generally you want to give Prowler on someone who needs to survive early due to the item's unique skill and needs the speed/evasion, it is a better cosmic kicks.

[autumn yacht]

👍

[autumn yacht]

Same backline

Almost same frontline

[stable dawn]

your z52 should be mid to avoid getting instantly blown up by torps and alsace

[autumn yacht]

Damn I thought she tank better

Will fix that

[trail temple]

No wonder our experts look good, you keep doing their work for them

[fresh dove]

:NJ_NotOkay:

:wtsht:

[grim solar]

No Nitro kek.

[mortal trench]

broke boi

[fresh dove]

are you sure about that

[mortal trench]

i was kidding

[fresh dove]

:kekelaugh:

[mortal trench]

dont spank me pls

[grim solar]

(spank them.)

[mortal trench]

win win for me either way

[mortal trench]

Bruh I fell asleep and missed 5 attacks already

[lusty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/gustavo-gif-9332188863397736801

[grim solar]

FUUUCCCKKK I MISSED AN ENTIRE SET OF 10.

[gloomy sand]

https://tenor.com/view/l-corp-lobotomy-corporation-library-of-ruina-project-moon-pmoon-gif-11033836203289114979

[grim solar]

Aight fuck it I'm just not gonna try this season and just wait for the next one.

[trail temple]

Just rush

[void zealot]

diva down!

[lusty hill]

I'd do the ignoring pvp strats if i had lost 10 attempts

No coming back anymore

[distant gulch]

i don't because i love merits

[grim geode]

I heard laffey2 is very gud for pvp? what kind of gear should I have on her? 😄

[mortal trench]

OMG OMG

SKIBIDYYY

https://tenor.com/view/doro-vapus-dance-goddess-of-victory-nikke-gif-13500786934828871115

[mortal trench]

I would suggest looking at the PvP guide unless it’s still down and the owner is SLAC

[vale minnow]

youre the expert, tell them

[mortal trench]

Sir I’m in a lecture

[bleak moon]

how do i access the pvp docs?

i need to request for access?

[vale minnow]

its down rn

[junior moss]

it's been for quite a while tho, did something happen?

[bleak moon]

ah i see

[vale minnow]

idk i dont make the sheet

[vale minnow]

yea she is
UR dd gun, preferrably the mogador gun, teatorps, UR aa gun (iris iirc) , manjuu, boiler

[mortal trench]

@grim geode I got this

[junior moss]

briked pvp account for non laffey II users

goldburn

[mortal trench]

@grim geode it’s been working for me bias recommendation

[stable dawn]

where were you when pvp guide was kill

I was at home eating the lasagna when discord notif ring

"hello pvp guide is kill"
"no"

[autumn yacht]

Are there any counter to this outside of bring the same line up with better gears and luck?

[vale minnow]

Bring your own copy

And juneu isn’t specifically good now
You should be able to kill
It with your own GoT fleet

[autumn yacht]

GoT?

[vale minnow]

Literally run the same thing but with another vanguard

[autumn yacht]

Yes

[vale minnow]

Everything but juneu is the core

If you still die

[autumn yacht]

Somehow I win

People mostly use white shell with fire control radar(or Afct) right?

[mortal trench]

Just keep bashing

Ur head into the fleet

TIL u win

All skill 100%

Close out of the app then of course do it so you won’t get a loss

[vale minnow]

Eva equips

[autumn yacht]

For BB?

I be damn

[vale minnow]

Beaver on sash
Pearl on alsus
Fmp on soy

[autumn yacht]

Fmp?

[vale minnow]

Fairy magic poster

[autumn yacht]

Right

[vale minnow]

If not I guess war naval treaty /sg radar

[autumn yacht]

PvP gears get weird

[junior moss]

oath your pvp fleet, then you get nothing to think about basically

[void zealot]

ew

[grim solar]

Oathing Laffey II and Eldridge Kai.

[void zealot]

more worth it than alsace

[gloomy sand]

hey mr expert, i have given pvp advice before while i was climbing and taking classes at the same time

but now i can comfortably take a back seat to pvp because of trustworthy and reliable opinions of you guys @mortal trench @lusty hill @fresh dove

I see a bright future for #pvp in our place

i trust that you guys can help the next generation of pvpers

[mortal trench]

what class were u in

maybe were classmates

[junior moss]

pvp masterclass

[mortal trench]

I was in macroeconomics

[stable dawn]

macaroni conics???

[mortal trench]

[fresh dove]

sorry for the ghost tag @gloomy sand

[vale minnow]

Flexing r12 💀

[grim solar]

The next generation of PvPers are just gonna be the same 12 people who browse this chat.

[fresh dove]

would flexing a 120 shop be better or?

[vale minnow]

Not even a flex

After you rage quit PvP server wouldn’t flex this

[fresh dove]

exactly

weird flex but 👍

[vale minnow]

It’s as weird as flexing low score ex and top 50 amagi pvp

[lusty hill]

it's always the same 10 people that eos

[mortal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-nikke-gif-2702142795628347222

SKKBIIDYYY

HAWK TUAH

[fresh dove]

hawk tuah

honestly tho

[late heath]

Make sure to take Kashino PvP class

[fresh dove]

I didn't mean to hurt anyone, sorry for the things I said

I just feel like it looks so bad

sometimes I just lost my cool and ended up like fussing over a joke

[mortal trench]

what are we snowflakes

[junior moss]

hexagons

[fresh dove]

Like I'm just gonna admit, I feel like rank 12 PvP is just kinda ok to flex, cause I worked kinda hard for it, like I had this reading break for week so I was totally free, almost made it despite the overcap disaster

[mortal trench]

just oil up already

[junior moss]

btw does anti air efficiency affect hit too?

[mortal trench]

[fresh dove]

maybe it's not even impressive to other but like

[mortal trench]

just wait til pvp dies and youll be top 1

[junior moss]

that would be the saddest t1 ever

[fresh dove]

nah you're all good, it's just me that's too sensitive

[mortal trench]

[mortal trench]

do u wanna be called a good boy or

[fresh dove]

like I'd be willing to help new players but being tagged the entire time is just like, making as if I am the only one who can help them the best, which is definitely not true

[junior moss]

just telling them they can reset the fight is likely the best advise ever, helps probably in 80% of cases

[fresh dove]

should be not, there's no correlation between hit stat and AA efficiency

[junior moss]

hoped for vanguard miniboost

[fresh dove]

I just left the pvp server because I just didn't feel like I could get anything, it didn't feel enjoyable at all, most of the things is just people mocking Polish and Germans, talking about Serenity, people posting about bonus and stuff, and like move copium and shitposting

[junior moss]

there is a pvp server?

[fresh dove]

it was supposed to be on the sheet, but I know a guy who can send you invite to it

if u want to join ofc

[junior moss]

nah, i'm good, nice to know it exists tho

[fresh dove]

honestly it was pretty helpful, like TPDH was still helpful, Borgar has data collection, and other people posting their strategy and stuff

I'll admit that I was being a clown at first, I just usually do it so I get the correct information quickly, probably I shouldn't have done it when the actual experts are there with factual evidence

[mortal trench]

i heard some bad stuff about them tbh

[fresh dove]

it ended up backfiring ofc, at the end I just couldn't stand it and just left for good (I mean there's this also other reason where I just left server that I find too distracting for my own good, just like how I delete games so I couldn't play them, but this is just some secondary cope)

I'll admit that reaching PvP EoS isn't easy and I respect all people who do that

[fresh dove]

[finite fog]

just attack until you win

[fresh dove]

like PvP actually took toll on me, ruined my sleep schedule, keeping my head locked on to check for bonus

[mortal trench]

[fresh dove]

I mean for EoS

[fresh dove]

well whatever

[late heath]

If you sandbag long enough, you will get used to weird sleep schedule

[stable dawn]

pvp should be removed from the game

[fresh dove]

well that's the part, I don't think I want to get used to it, it just feels so bad, that's why I just quit

[stable dawn]

and replaced with that roguelike mode they teased a while back

[late heath]

They should make you do OPSI puzzle every time you reset

[stable dawn]

they should bring those back smh

[late heath]

Best game feature

[stable dawn]

idk why they disappear after you complete them once

opsi is actually so boring without them

literally press auto search once and then hope your game doesn't crash while you walk away

[late heath]

And if you reset running Laffey II, Eldridge, and META, you have to do 3 puzzles instead of 1

[finite fog]

just use kashino so you don't reset

[late heath]

Yes

[stable dawn]

add real time pvp so we can sit in queue for 6 years

when I finish my next exercise maybe Yamato will be out

[late heath]

Add queue for pvp, can’t pvp an opponent who is currently in a match

[grim solar]

PvP but every EoSer gets 500 gems and you play on manual.

Watch as PvP suddenly becomes relevant.

[stable dawn]

we did have manual pvp

due to the UI bug from last cruise pass

[grim solar]

[finite fog]

why would you want to make pvp easier

[fresh dove]

ngl with how active EoS players are

manual prolly won't even hurt them mechanically

[junior moss]

manual would mean need of freezes since a skilled one would avoid all your shells

[late heath]

NIKKE PvP

Gem for winning, no reset

Auto though

Best of 3 fight also mean people have to run more than 1 comp

It also let the person who you fought know whether you win or lose against them

[stable dawn]

make it like BA pvp
you only get 5 attacks per day but you can buy more with gems
if you lose on def, your rank goes down

infinite refreshes though

[lusty hill]

smh pay to win pvp

[late heath]

That’s literally nikke PvP

[winged depot]

Manual pvp is when you manually remove yourself in pvp and be chill

[junior moss]

btw how do you know your position at eos?

[lusty hill]

you ask mutsuki

[distant gulch]

i asked mutsuki but she said im a bad guy and called the police

[grim solar]

[shell raft]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

Welcome to Discord

[vale minnow]

some1 probably will screen shot eos rankings

and you pray you dont lose to r10 by a point

i lucked out this seaz, rng got to me, but like always, i gathered a lot of info on ppl in my server, and use that to become better

[autumn yacht]

I banking on the event schedule so that would leave only the pvp sweats in

[vale minnow]

it means
i wont get as much bonuses

which is bad

[late heath]

Bonus sleep

[vale minnow]

ouh its mikoto

im asleep for almost the entirety of set 1 💀

[late heath]

That should be fine actually

[vale minnow]

yea

[late heath]

Can catch up

[vale minnow]

im asleep for first 8h of set 1

and then awake for every other set

which is prob better than sleeping during set 2 and 3

[late heath]

Back then we didn’t even do the refresh spam on first 3 set til like, a few months after Amagi server was up

[vale minnow]

youre ancient

[late heath]

https://tenor.com/view/growing-old-getting-old-grow-old-old-man-becoming-old-gif-17885988

[vale minnow]

what year?

i forgot if amagi was 19' or 20'

[late heath]

18

[vale minnow]

oh what

[late heath]

Iirc

Can’t check, I left my guild

Left last month, joined shortly after Amagi is out

[vale minnow]

whats old guild?

[late heath]

Spee Cult

[vale minnow]

was last season amagi especially stacked?

[late heath]

Yea

[vale minnow]

cuz i finished with what like a 2590
r11

[late heath]

Lot of people who EX or EoS are old SC members

[vale minnow]

sc?

[late heath]

Spee cult

[vale minnow]

oh speecult

locking in this seaz

and maint should give me some movers this thurs

[autumn yacht]

Do I wait 2 hours later then start attacking?

[vale minnow]

you wait until someone moves

if you randomly attack and take +0s youre just sacking your score

[autumn yacht]

Damn

[lusty hill]

I'd wait

[vale minnow]

anus

[stable dawn]

JUWUMY SPOTTED

[unkempt vortex]

wait is he pvp tier list currently not available right now?

[lusty hill]

Yes

You can ask me for 100% factual and unbiased pvp guide

[distant gulch]

how to easily destroy foxwall defense?

[stable dawn]

yeah we made the guy who wrote it overcap irl

[void zealot]

what the fuck does that even mean

[lusty hill]

If you can't then you have skill issue

Consider doing better

[distant gulch]

yeah but how

do i send my loli like mutsuki

maybe bait the milf fox with loli fox

[shell raft]

But if that still doesn't work for you, use the tried and true Serenity tactics of asking them to disarm

[distant gulch]

"yo can you unequip your wyvern and tenrai? my vanguard need to survive one round then i can attack your cvs"

[void zealot]

[autumn yacht]

Some backline sniping comp I guess

Set up the match for a 3v2

[lusty hill]

There's no shame in asking your opponents to disarm

One must have a fair fight

[autumn yacht]

Getting your opponent numbers is the first step

Or just be a coward and equip Pressus

So she can spot the enemy CVs and let your superior BBs lay waste to the enemy

[lusty hill]

Big brain moment

[hybrid agate]

just destroy the enemy vanguard with sheer firepower so can push thru CVs
some BBs can spot CVs like Alsace blue skill, and Richelieu special barrage

[steel coral]

or just

[jade heart]

🐸

[junior moss]

can ancho,eldkai,bayard work?

[gloomy sand]

[jade heart]

[sand cape]

hey what happened to the pvp guide?

[mortal trench]

Got hacked apparently

[void zealot]

fish

[late heath]

you need to send Kashino your CC info in order to access the document

[junior moss]

hopefully someone did a copy of the pvp guide, i am 80% sure i didn't

[vale minnow]

It’s down rn

[jade heart]

Nubi hacked it and stealing our gems

[void zealot]

false (true)

[lusty hill]

It's currently under maintenance

In the meantime you can ask me for 100% factual and unbiased pvp advice

[stable dawn]

they say in your anger, you killed her

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-smile-creepy-creepy-smile-smirk-gif-24584761

[late heath]

We getting PvP-chan mascot soon

[stable dawn]

we already have her

[hybrid agate]

[sand cape]

Assuming I'm lazy and want the best pvp team that doesnt use the best best ships (like i would use in opsi) what would it be

lazy as in i don't want to swap gears around

[vale minnow]

sam, i made my pvp fleet my ops mob, you can too

[lusty hill]

if you're lazy then just equip them with pvp gear

it's better to equip pvp gear on pve ship than equiping pve gear on pvp ship

[blazing orbit]

3 bb opsimob

gg....

[vale minnow]

theres nothing wrong with it

[blazing orbit]

i mean from a clear rate yeah probably maybe

does it even one fleet strongholds though

[vale minnow]

yea

[late heath]

OPSI is pretty easy even with pvp gears nowadays

[vale minnow]

if it cant, that is because of a phenomenon called

[blazing orbit]

bb salvo slowing screen though

[vale minnow]

ok

?

[sand cape]

Sorry i don't want to do that

[vale minnow]

[sand cape]

My current pvp fleet is fdg musashi nj anc harbin eld

is there anything better

[late heath]

CV Kashino CVL Kashino BB Kashino Kashino META DD Kashino Kashino

[vale minnow]

[vale minnow]

i mean does it work against meta fleets?

[sand cape]

[sand cape]

Idk i just do pvp for merit not for aotn

[vale minnow]

i think its fine then

[sand cape]

so i pick lowest fleet power usually

[late heath]

Should be fine if it’s just for merits

[sand cape]

awesome

🙏🏽

[vale minnow]

ima put this out there

lol

[late heath]

Just make sure to reach admiral of the navy for 2.5k merits

[lusty hill]

why are you using that

[sand cape]

cause it was meta like 2 years ago

[lusty hill]

you won't get anything good with only half effort

[late heath]

Well, he only going for merits and pick lower power opponent

Should be fine

[steel coral]

losing 1/5 of a bulin each month from not pvping enough

[lusty hill]

the rushing strats

[sand cape]

My guide says 2-4 bulins / month that's accurate right

2 if casual 4 if sweat

[steel coral]

if you do all pvp including aotn and stuff you should be able to get 4 a month

[lusty hill]

4 bulin a month from merits if you do the rushing strats

[sand cape]

wao

[trail temple]

Washy fleets aren't problematic. I've run fleets that were meta 2 years ago and could still aotn

[sand cape]

yea

When i got aotn i missed a cycle and still got aotn

[stable dawn]

wtf you're a washy player????

[sand cape]

yes i am

[stable dawn]

unfortunate

[junior trench]

In a few hours, we're going to see if this is right or not.

[late heath]

As long as you love her, she will be meta

[distant gulch]

italy so bad

[vale minnow]

I hope she’s bad

If not I need to whale for another ring

[late heath]

Wait til they introduce a mechanic whereas you can give her 10 rings, each one boost stat and they all stack

[stable dawn]

they'll copy HSR where she gives buffs as long as she's in your account

[vale minnow]

truly a p2w game

[lusty hill]

They'll do that on this year CN anniversary

All ship with cross fleet skill can support any fleet as long as they're in your dock

[stable dawn]

imagine +50% crit chance buff while in your dock

[vale minnow]

[trail temple]

-50% CR and CD if you're Serenity

[stable dawn]

-50% collection rate

[lusty hill]

+50% pvp attempts

[distant gulch]

datamine out

italy looks black and white

thank you

i guess we need to see the barrage before anything

maybe soyuz getting replaced

[grim solar]

Damn.

Already power crept after a year.

[distant gulch]

i doubt tho

from the skills description it look so 50-50

white this skill, black this skill

sounds so inconsistent

[grim solar]

I have yet to read it since I'm waking up and my eyes are blurry.

[distant gulch]

maybe im reading it wrong

would be nice if both skillset guaranteed to take effect

but soyuz barrage is strong

and alsus preload is important

viable alternatives i guess?

[trail temple]

The livestream event showed the barrage iirc

[distant gulch]

true, but i was late

i came when they start showing the skin 😭

ok bad wording

[trail temple]

Should be able to see the clips and shit

[distant gulch]

i came onto the stream when they started showing the skin*

im gonna go rewind now

ye bruv this looks whacked and non focused

dont think this is it

[junior moss]

iirc it had some salvo too

[whole salmon]

Very interesting

Very interesting indeed

Backline shield maker for frontline

[stable dawn]

datamine is out

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTGV6iJfmY-4NahI_VRLGeyKlV5YUF5gkRuA-I29kPMXIrseSIPL9h0XAfvioNMunoXecU_VZX31HgB/pubhtml

[whole salmon]

Gun is slow, suck ass against Heavy

[stable dawn]

shield seems more likely to trigger for herself only

[whole salmon]

Thank god no need to waste plates

[whole salmon]

While Raffelo is afloat, each stack grants the ship a 1% Raffelo HP barrier; barrier lasts for 10s, subsequent stacks refresh barrier + duration, BARRIER DOES NOT STACK

I meant this

This is only herself? Not the ship with the white stack?

[stable dawn]

no the issue is