pvp

[whole salmon]

It just feels like being a ship down

[lusty hill]

You are correct, it's all about luck in pvp

[gloomy sand]

now

time to not lose

[cosmic laurel]

you can still run shinano with double tenrai and wyvern and watch her obliterate people's backlines

[floral wave]

1. you cant do that becauss you lose before it launches
2. since when double tenrai obliterates backline more than double wyvern

[cosmic laurel]

idk i wrote that from personal experience alone
running an unga bunga fleet and not using different loadouts for different occasions

[floral wave]

double tenrai was never a correct or default loadout

at that point you can use kent and watch her obliterate enemies

[stable dawn]

everything is viable in captain rank

[finite fog]

[cosmic laurel]

i may be stupid

[gloomy sand]

tryhard don't run that at all

meta was like, two wyverns and a suisei 12a

[lusty hill]

How to shinano

Also by that logic yorktown2 should be the best CV in pvp since she has 7 dive bomber slots, the highest of any CV in the game

[thorny lotus]

how broken is amagi and mogador combo

[trail temple]

In PvP? Given it's not in the sheet, it's not very broken at all

[gloomy sand]

Amagi CV would've been meta. Too bad Laffey II exists
meanwhile Mogador doesn't have the burst of JintM's torps nor the tankiness of Laffey II

[hybrid agate]

@lusty hill did you overcap?

gl next

[finite fog]

all part of the serenity strats

[lusty hill]

No

[hybrid agate]

I had you on my list earlier but didn't move further as a bonus.

[lusty hill]

[ornate cosmos]

Hmmmm..is.amagi cv looming for the pvp meta..hmmmm

[floral wave]

[inner mango]

Amagi CV good for pvp

[ornate cosmos]

Hmmmm is it already tested..and i saw coz of laff ii shes still kinda easy to defeat in pvp..and mogador is not that still great on pvp

[late heath]

Mogador make players burst

[floral wave]

is it tested? idk

[valid oxide]

Milf is still a good fleet surely

[lusty hill]

[steel coral]

amagi isn't bad you just lack imagination

[lusty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-brain-damage-funny-gif-9567713795855473020

[valid oxide]

Amagi yamato akagi META is a good. Team yall

[lusty hill]

Yamato isn't that good in pvp, her barrage isn't that strong compared to the recent UR BB and most of her skill are support based, I'd say she can replace unicorn or perseus in a mob fleet but not pvp

[valid oxide]

That's the thing, yamato gives amagi and akagi META silly buffs which makes their silly barrages even sillier

[nocturne temple]

hello guys what vanguard is best here? trying to help a friend

[coarse dew]

Ancho shima noshiro (?)

[nocturne temple]

is juneau better to get?

[winged depot]

absolutely

[nocturne temple]

so anchor, shima, juneau?

[winged depot]

yep, could work for now

[nocturne temple]

I see

thanks

[winged depot]

your friend is not the average player with them skins

[nocturne temple]

apparantly not

[gloomy sand]

Right now? Ancho - Shima - Noshiro
Can do some investment in the meantime? Ancho - Shima - Juneau

[nocturne temple]

thx beth

i didnt know noshiro was so good in pvp

[gloomy sand]

you're welcome
tl;DR: some torp buffs and good torps herself + decent bulk against torps

@nocturne temple please tell me he bagged the Eld retro item 💀

[nocturne temple]

I am not sure tbh I will ask him

is eldridge replacing anyone? in pvp?

[winged depot]

yes, she kicked out juneau

[gloomy sand]

yes lol

[nocturne temple]

oh I see

so eventually they can do anchor shima eldridge?
or anchor juneua eldridge?
since he started after laff2

[gloomy sand]

Eld + Juneau makes Juneau's death and therefore her healing... much more inconsistent in theory

[nocturne temple]

aha true

that makes sense

[coarse dew]

Yess I passed the test after 1 month looking at the pvp channel

[gloomy sand]

p sure there's neg synergy

[nocturne temple]

that is true

[coarse dew]

I heard yall documented EoS? So it is not possible for me to photoshop?

[void zealot]

[gloomy sand]

Ancho - Shima - Eldridge or Ancho - Felix - Eldridge

[gloomy sand]

Eos logs r private usually

there was one but it got taken offline, never to reopen again. As of now

[coarse dew]

Wait what does that mean? Isn't flexing the whole reason?

[gloomy sand]

yeah

depends if they're sharing or not

[coarse dew]

I see. What about the importance of fs5 felix for brawl comp

[gloomy sand]

PvP assumes maxed stuff whenever possible. So Fs5 is p good

with good CL guns you can chip away at the frontline's HP

[coarse dew]

Dang Ic, I'm quite some bps away and prolly not gonna be back till several la9s

[gloomy sand]

play at your own pace

Besides, if that's your account, then u can run the other lineup: Ancho - Shima - Eldridge

[coarse dew]

Nah it's not mine, though I'm running laffii harbin shima with soy vang seyd, als eld felix not 125, no musashi and jintM

Still somehow get blocked by people with the oathed MSA stall comps

[gloomy sand]

amagi is doable

[trail temple]

I don't know about MSA

I do know that GoT comp is good

[lusty hill]

Soyuz good

[ripe veldt]

Fun fact the 86/90 is the amount of times andy got rank 1 eos in pvp

[hybrid agate]

[late heath]

Who’s Andy

[lusty hill]

Andeeznutz

[junior trench]

[brazen socket]

That is andy

[novel patio]

how the heck

[finite fog]

check again

[novel patio]

this was before reset

[finite fog]

you missed cappy

[inner mango]

[light crystal]

My team is so good, I haven't needed to Reset since I started using. Meta units are scary.

[stable dawn]

I didn't know you still pvp'd

[inner mango]

You guys pvp?

[mortal trench]

pvp meta fleets where

[finite fog]

Everything's doable in captain rank

[stark ice]

@cerulean geyser nice fleet

[cerulean geyser]

[inner mango]

Only in Avrora

[lusty hill]

Tosic game mode

[tired kayak]

you don't have to end the season with the rank in order to get teh highest rank thing on your profile right

[hybrid agate]

yes, just by touching the rank once gives you the rank rewards.

[gloomy sand]

the next award is touching grass

[tired kayak]

do you have to wait for rankings to update or straight up just

have the current rank thing on the exercise menu say it

[finite fog]

"ladder" updates when you click on it

your list updates when you relog

[tired kayak]

right ig u right

[inner mango]

Pvp fun

Amagi CV good in pvp

[tired kayak]

is it safe to assume that everyone in top 10 is sandbagging now

[hybrid agate]

on the current leaderboard? probably not

[lusty hill]

Too soon for the serenity strats

[tired kayak]

oke

[vapid crypt]

Lol

[inner mango]

Something that isn't recommended to do, Got it

[lusty hill]

cuz it's too soon now

it's best to do it tomorrow

[inner mango]

Sounds like a bad move if you ask me

[lusty hill]

why are you like this

[inner mango]

I also heard that Serenity strat makes you unskilled and makes you lose to weaker fleets

[hybrid agate]

a friendly tip

[grim solar]

Translation: Don't be Serenity.

[lusty hill]

I don't lose

[inner mango]

[stable dawn]

[lusty hill]

Kid named what was it?

[cosmic laurel]

i just fought an int fleet containing just bismarck 2 and laffey 2 and laffey outlived bismarck
what

i need her so damn bad

[trail temple]

Guys, I am gonna commit a terrible crime in front of everyone

@lime rivet Have you got 2 more exercises left?

[valid oxide]

I can't believe you would do this

[lime rivet]

Yes

[finite fog]

[trail temple]

Let me if and when you move, thanking you

[lime rivet]

I had 4 left, moved them all. Currently at 2213 points

[trail temple]

[hybrid agate]

[stable dawn]

[inner mango]

[gloomy sand]

unspoken rizz

[chrome sedge]

is this a good pvp fleet

or how can i improve

[trail temple]

Ignoring levels, vanguard is okay

[chrome sedge]

how about backline how can i improve

[trail temple]

Probably fdg over uvh

It looks like you've had a look at the spreadsheet at least

If you had seyd, she'd be better than fdg

[late heath]

Collusion

[tired kayak]

finally

never waking up for pvp ever again

[lusty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/we-got-him-we-got-em-gif-21922291

[fleet laurel]

Is alsace with georgia gun is good as iowa gun?

[stable dawn]

no

[fleet laurel]

Is she more prefer iowa gun?

[hybrid agate]

tis a conspiracy

[lusty hill]

[inner mango]

[trail temple]

I've said and admitted it multiple times, it's old news, unless you're an Alzheimer's patient

[lusty hill]

Who's Alzheimer

[vapid crypt]

Who

[bleak moon]

if i dont have mushashi and my soyuz is lowly invested who can i replace them with?

[stable dawn]

soyuz is worth the investment for both pvp and pve

[bleak moon]

would this work

[trail temple]

Do you have Alsace?

[valid oxide]

Cooked because of lack of eldkai

[finite fog]

Cooked because no laffey 2

[steel coral]

Cooked because no Amagi(CV)

[lusty hill]

Unfair game mode

Seniority plays major role

[gloomy sand]

yes, expect some resets though

[mortal trench]

( brain dead game mode ) erm

[livid crag]

Can anyone recommend a better defense fleet in exercises? I keep falling 1 battle short for Admiral of the Navy. This is my current fleet.

[lusty hill]

Don't overcap and don't lose

[versed geyser]

Defense fleet doesn't matter for getting AoTN, you don't lose merit

[lusty hill]

Defense fleet doesn't affect your rank

[livid crag]

Then why do I drop to Admiral or Rear Admiral by the time my exercises chances recover? I get to Fleet Admiral but get demoted 2 or 3 ranks when I attempt again.

[finite fog]

rank is based on how many points you have

[livid crag]

What do you mean by overcap? I don't lose but I always fall short.

[finite fog]

we have a guide in the pins

check the sandbagging section for a better understanding of how the ranking system works

#pvp message here if you can't find the pins

[livid crag]

Thanks bro.

[versed geyser]

Because other people gain more points than you basically

[bleak moon]

oops nah i dont have alsace, laffey 2, eldkai, i have amagi cv tho

[trail temple]

I haven't seen Amagi CV be super successful tbh

[bleak moon]

ah i see

i have jintsuu meta but shes missing 1 crystal so i cant fully lb her

[trail temple]

I think that's just damage there, so, she could work

It's not ideal

I'm assuming you didn't do the event for eldridge's item?

[bleak moon]

i dont think so im also really low on gold bulins rn

[trail temple]

Run jintm, shima and harbin and pray to god it works

[bleak moon]

even tho shes not mlb? its better than anchorage?

[trail temple]

You can probably snipe something with the torps

Jintm also buffs Shima

[bleak moon]

ahhh i see alright

[fresh dove]

is juneau worth 125?

[gloomy sand]

yes

[fresh dove]

eldkai kicked her out isn't it?

she's even nowhere to be found

[gloomy sand]

yes eldkai provides better survivability for the frontline compared to juneau

[novel patio]

+14

[lusty hill]

kid named overcap

[void zealot]

Guilty as charged

[soft echo]

Is there anything that can beat Musashi/NJ/Pers + Unzen/Laf2/Plym

This is cancer. I've been spamming retry trying to beat this cheese shit

[gloomy sand]

Anything on the PvP spreadsheet

for clarity, what was your fleet?

[lusty hill]

Check the pin

[soft echo]

Hiryuu/Shinano/Haku + Anch/Shima/Laf2

I hate that so many comps run Musashi as peak

Rerun fucking when

[trail temple]

[soft echo]

I am

[lusty hill]

Musashi become the new shimakaze lol

[soft echo]

I feel like she's way more oppressive to not have than shima cause you have options if you dont have shima

Musashi is just such a tank

11khp and a 30% DR

[lusty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[soft echo]

what am i missing

[half silo]

the pins I guess

[merry elm]

What is the best pvp fleet without bismarck zwei

[trail temple]

When has Zwei ever been good?

(In PvP)

[merry elm]

Oh alr

Idk i just made sure bcs somehow i missed her

[trail temple]

She's dogshit

[merry elm]

Damn dont be too rude to her

[trail temple]

That was the polite version

[gloomy sand]

Every fleet it seems

[merry elm]

That's good

Any recommendations

[trail temple]

The spreadsheet in the pins has several options

[void cave]

why he got slightly better points than other? also hows the scoring point works

[stable dawn]

Zwei is really good

at losing

[void cave]

woah nvm, just read the sandbag strats

[lusty hill]

Luck

[finite fog]

bro he's already better than you

[lusty hill]

[valid oxide]

In a defence fleet, for like 3 days after she released

[trail temple]

That's cap

[lusty hill]

She's only good in defense if you have skill issue

[clever magnet]

[lusty hill]

[lusty hill]

Ehh pretty sure that's different fleet I lost

[finite fog]

you don't even remember your own guildmates

which you accepted

[lusty hill]

[shell raft]

[river flicker]

Shimakaze, anchorage and Azuma good for pvp?

[unkempt vortex]

Barely doable but not in today's meta and sadly never will be

[river flicker]

what if I replace anchorage with molgador

[unkempt vortex]

Anchorage is still a better tank

Replace Azuma for Mogador then

If you wanna see optimal fleets

Check the pins in this channel

[river flicker]

Ok

[river flicker]

the one from Salty?

[unkempt vortex]

Yes

[river flicker]

What other Main gun can I replace with?

I dont have any UR for it

[unkempt vortex]

For whom?

Anchorage?

[river flicker]

yes

[unkempt vortex]

These 3 should be enough

The 1st is poverty

[river flicker]

Yhhh

Poverty

[unkempt vortex]

Seems alr, would use washing machine over motor for that (purple auxiliary) if you even have that, if not then that will do or change that for a repair tool

[river flicker]

Ofc I do

Cant you see my name

[unkempt vortex]

[river flicker]

Cant fully upgrade it cuz I spent all of it on Washy

[river flicker]

Can I replace the quad 533mm with the quintuple?

[unkempt vortex]

Sure, but not optimal, her main attraction is her evasion skill, which procs on how fast your torps reload

So using that 533mm quad is good

Better if you have a Purple 550 triple torp or a Blue 550 double torp for faster proc

[river flicker]

Ok

[inner mango]

Amagi CV good in pvp

[wicked surge]

Your main gun and augment are contradicting each other

[river flicker]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/bb?ship=washington

I did it based on this one

so Im not so sure

[wicked surge]

Crossbow is has debuff against light , and He gun is primarily a anti light gun

[river flicker]

Ah fuck I used wrong one

:p

I didnt pay much attention to it

didnt notice that I changed it before

[lusty hill]

Washington isn't good at pvp

[river flicker]

Doesnt matter

Dont you see my name

[lusty hill]

kid named suboptimal fleet

[unkempt vortex]

Cook vs Meta

[steel coral]

wasd is back get ready

[trail temple]

Washy lover with his dream team meme will still have more success than Serenity tbh

[trail temple]

I would disagree. Anchorage is pretty slow (26 speed), you want your average speed to be around 50 after beaver. Boiler and shoes is Anchorage's best aux setup

[steel coral]

ancho + eldridge can afford to be slow because most of the time they are either inside ancho's smoke or invulnerable due to OR

[trail temple]

Problem is, when the BBs fire for the second time, it'll be before Ancho's smoke and after OR, unless you got lucky. Additionally, they're not using Eldy

[unkempt vortex]

You got a point on better speed, but Evasion still seems a better option ignoring the washing machine buff chance, its more so the stat plus BB's might have a chance to kill them before the next barrage by just ramming dmg or secondary gun unless the BB is low, and Anchor is not good for dmg

Her most optimal is always her skill, the auxies can give slight edge, but its too minimal to the likes of others like Beaver, Pearl and Elite Damage Control

Typical Washing Machine to beaver is best generally so Cosmic kicks is like an alternative but Washing Machine stays for more evasion since Health isn't a problem to her

Its like how Anchorage can Counter Alsace but not NJ

[gloomy sand]

https://tenor.com/bfb7v.gif

[trail temple]

Missing shots is just another way to evade

[unkempt vortex]

Still not enough to the likes of Destroyers sadly

Who has high Evasion and Speed

Boiler is really nice, if they have another vanguard ship to give another defense skill hence not needing some other evasion auxi...

[trail temple]

Evasion anchorage has proven to be ineffective in a triple BB meta. It sadly just doesn't work, BBs have enough hit with our current gear that most vanguards aren't going to evade a fatal shot (especially when you factor in secondaries).

You're better off going for more speed. This also factors in that Anchorage does possess a shield that turns into an invul once it pops.

[unkempt vortex]

Good point, still situational at best (At my part)

Hit and Evasion are chance after all

While Speed isn't

[inner mango]

Basically you just said it yourself you aren't good at pvp

[lusty hill]

What

I'm not Washington

[stable dawn]

but you are washed

[lusty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-brain-damage-funny-gif-9567713795855473020

[versed geyser]

Washy is also getting augment next update, imagine if it changes 2nd skill makes backline invul for 5 secs lol

[trail temple]

I guess we'll find out soon enough

[fresh dove]

kid named overcap

[river flicker]

Wtf is kid named?

[river flicker]

It actually worked out a lot

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/756273168963862641.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[void zealot]

Washy OP

[river flicker]

Shes getting her aug

So shes gonna be better

[gloomy sand]

congrats

[river flicker]

Yeyeyeye

A bell...

[void zealot]

🔔

[fresh dove]

I overcapped. Time to do exercises like a sane person

[river flicker]

[late heath]

If you overcap, then you lose

[fresh dove]

would you lose though

[void zealot]

nah i'd win

[novel patio]

i overcapped 5 exercises again

drinking my coffee and didnt notice the time

[trail temple]

https://tenor.com/view/goblin-slayer-stressed-priestess-anime-you-get-used-to-it-gif-13752108

[knotty cave]

Oh hey, I know that name

[fresh dove]

[river flicker]

Wolfie

[novel patio]

actually i cant tell if i overcapped or not

[rich mulch]

find out toward the end of the season

i know i overcapped by one exercise

[trail temple]

0/10?

[vapid crypt]

Maintenance

Boring

[novel patio]

yes

[trail temple]

You're either low or overcapped

[lusty hill]

Guys is maintenance good at pvp

[void zealot]

Maintenance is inherently overpowered

[novel patio]

how do i eat more bonuses

[gloomy sand]

wait

there's an entire section of the PvP sheet dedicated on getting bonuses

[novel patio]

i have a poor ability to remember stuff on a deadline

[gloomy sand]

try the alarm tech

[shell raft]

Make sure you use the Nintendo Alarmo for guaranteed bonuses each set

[lusty hill]

Kid named

[gloomy sand]

[inner mango]

This is why Janus dislikes you

[thorny lotus]

help me i keep seeing fleet like this
how can elite ships become meta?

[finite fog]

people use different ships on offence

if that's what you're wondering

[hybrid agate]

[thorny lotus]

why they use all little version

[finite fog]

just to show off

[winged depot]

some ppl set some def that has a theme on it

[unkempt vortex]

My bad

[brazen socket]

Cause they want to

Defense provides no benefits

Nor actually affects people in the long run

At most you're just being a dick if you set up a meta fleet for defense in early season

lol

[thorny lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[thorny lotus]

but they shallnt sacrifice little spee

[half silo]

actually it does

namely walling people intentionally

[brazen socket]

Yes as I said

Meta fleet on defense is just to wall and be a dick

[half silo]

ah mb, had an en moment there and didn‘t read completely

[stable dawn]

it lowers other players' scores, allowing you to win more easily

[void zealot]

It lowers your testosterone levels which causes you to lose all the muscle on your bones

[ashen lion]

how to counter this team ?

[hybrid agate]

should be a cake walk for any of the meta fleets on the pinned doc

[ashen lion]

it works using old meta

[valid oxide]

I use another silly old backline (sushi fdg NJ)

[cosmic laurel]

FUCKING FINALLY

[lusty hill]

Yakuza good

[novel patio]

cake defense

[brazen socket]

the sight of kashino causes your strength to be weakened

truly

when are we powecreeping kashino from the meta?

[wicked surge]

Hey :(

[fresh dove]

yeah it hurts 😦

[sour pawn]

Has Amagi been tested for PvP yet? Tempted to give her a try with a full CV backline to see how badly it goes

[south leaf]

If you have anchorage ur already good

[versed geyser]

#pvp message
#pvp message

[stable dawn]

she's as good as Formidable

[zenith lantern]

It's good against everything except the main meta team where you can expect to have to refresh one or two times to win. It's kind of slow though because it takes an age to kill Laffey without BB support

[late heath]

CV Kashino is stronger than Amagi

[junior trench]

Time to try silly older backline (SoDak, Wash, Enty)

[cosmic laurel]

proposition
musashi-cvmagi-shinano-anchorage-ägir-laffey 2

or a ship more cuddly than ägir actually. three foxes behind and three hugboxes ahead, that sounds like an adorable theme
anchorage-eldridge-laff2

[gloomy sand]

Meeb variant in this day and age and you lose

well

[cosmic laurel]

what's a meeb?

[gloomy sand]

Musashi - Hiryuu - Shinano

[versed geyser]

Hmm has anybody run Amagi + Amagi CV yet? Something like Amagi/Musashi/Amagi Laffey II/Eldridge/Shimakaze

[gloomy sand]

Probably not

[steel coral]

10% eva rate doesn't really do much

[versed geyser]

True, it's more about debuff stacking and that Amagi has a fastload with 4 IJN ships

[steel coral]

she also does like no dmg

prob unironically better to somehow cram tamaki into that fleet

[versed geyser]

Then Tamaki/Musashi/Amagi CV with standard vanguard I guess?

[lusty hill]

just drop amagi

[robust gazelle]

Everyone asleep rn I can hold it for a few mins

[lusty hill]

Too soon for the serenity strats

[trail temple]

You've limited your enemy BBs to targeting 4 ships, Musashi and your vanguard. Anchorage cannot stop Musashi and may also miss timing on Soyuz's barrage. Either you're going to lose Musashi, or your vanguard minus laffey. Either way, you won't have enough pressure nor tankiness to for your CVs to do anything. You're also praying they don't get another rainbow proc from Eldridge because the CVs take that long to launch and hit the enemy

[inner mango]

Amagi CV is good on pvp

Trust

[lusty hill]

Kid named spreading misinformation

[grim solar]

Spreading misinformation is a necessity to winning in PvP.

[inner mango]

That's why you keep losing

[lusty hill]

I don't lose

[inner mango]

[lusty hill]

why is that emoji exists lmao

[trail temple]

Just for you

[bright mauve]

It's always too soon for serenity strats...

[inner mango]

It's a bad Strat if you ask me

consist of losing to non meta fleets by a mile

[sour pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520316559965552641/1295004707932344403/image.png?ex=670d129e&is=670bc11e&hm=77b841a57c065075193cbb3122ffea9191cffa68adea6e0bf75e0fa6dac166c2&

First try it didn't go too bad, VG dmg is lacking and so is Akagi muse holy, but the faster CV fire time is pretty good for gettin in after Eld procced

[robust gazelle]

[sour pawn]

Also would there be a higher dmg setup for Amagi? I'm unsure for PvP with crash dmg tbh

[lusty hill]

conspiracy taking place

[lusty hill]

swap steam catapult with angel feather

[sour pawn]

You think the extra eva is worth it?

[lusty hill]

yes

it was the standard equip during meeb era

[sour pawn]

Ah shit I just realised I haven't got her to 125 yet, damn

[inner mango]

🐌

[zenith lantern]

I’m just using regular Akagi and Kaga, more damage than Aquila and more than Akagi muse unless you’re forcing a few muse aux in to the fleet. It’s also pretty good having all your airstrikes go at once and their timing is great, no Laffey adds alive to distract your planes

[gloomy sand]

Slow as balls

Use your choice of Flapjack, Pirate, Sea Hornet

Ideal rec is Flapjack for many

[sour pawn]

Having it a bit slower is great with the reduce first strike CD and to get in after the Eld proc tbh so she's at least doing dmg to the VG on top of wiping out the backline

[gloomy sand]

does less crash DMG than a fighter though

then again I haven't used CVs in a good while so can't comment on it

[zenith lantern]

It’s not really crash damage you need to worry about so much, it’s killing Laffey. Backline will die in 2 airstrikes as long as you have some Wyverns.

[lusty hill]

Skyraider good

[versed geyser]

I think you need Bearcat to outspeed Soyuz 2nd proc on Amagi CV

[versed geyser]

Maybe should try to get the full 40% using Anchorage + change Eldridge Aux + Formidable muse?

[sour pawn]

Well I am up to 20% with a muse Aux, I don't think Fromi is worht using over Aquila tho tbh

[versed geyser]

Main thing is she has 6 torpedo bombers vs Aquila's 4, although she is missing additional barrage on airstrike yeah, also more of the wyvern torps will get through if you sink one of the Laffey II bunnies and proc her skill

[zenith lantern]

Both of them aren’t so useful. Wasting your airstrike on Laffey bunnies is really bad as you’re not killing anything important. The bunnies die to your vanguard in 3-4s anyway. Amagi works because the bunnies are always dead when she is launching airstrike. Same for Akagi and Kaga

[ashen lion]

no, the reason for win is on laffey 2 with dmg control aux

[floral wave]

use barracuda in first slot for crash maxxing

[steel coral]

having them all attack at the same time is fine until enemy eldridge doesn't proc at the immediate start of battle and then becomes perfectly synced to the airstrikes and their vanguard never takes and damage

[zenith lantern]

True but it's still the best timing. Preloads and regular CV launches all synch up with Laffey spawning her bunnies, so every single airstrike you do gets gimped. With the offset timings there are no bunnies, and for Eldridge your 1st launch is usually fine and 2nd launch is completely clear as Eldridge should be dead by then.

[steel coral]

I've found it more reliable to use 1 offset airstrike like a preload or shinano to either guarantee enemy eldridge procs right away so it won't be active during akagi and amagi airstrikes and/or launch a little after them to clean up anything on low hp

[zenith lantern]

Offset by a few s could be fine, but a 0s or 20s airstrike risks going after bunnies, it's not even going to proc Eldridge in that case. Your vanguard should proc Eldridge anyway.

[steel coral]

the bunnies is the least of my concerns

my point is putting all of your carrier eggs into one airstrike basket risks a lot against the rngfest that is operation rainbow

sure I've had plenty of fights where my vanguard procs OR right away but I've also had too many instances of her not procing until 5-10 seconds into the fight to ignore it as a possibility

[versed geyser]

Yeah seeing the enemy Soyuz proc on my immune vanguard is just

[zenith lantern]

Over using it for a season it's not really been an issue. I have to reset against the top 2 players on the server and everything else is a first time victory

[keen silo]

[zenith lantern]

The thing that needs solving is how to kill Laffey better. It's not uncommon for your Laffey to die before theirs. Usually it's a 1HP Laffey so it's fine but 6 airstrike launches don't do enough to her compared to the 2 or 3 BB volleys you have to face.

[steel coral]

the real problem is eldridge

she's the only thing stopping this fleet

[zenith lantern]

Hasn't been a problem for me like I said

[versed geyser]

Doesn't that mean that your Eldridge is proccing too soon?

[keen silo]

aux guns

3bb vs 3cv will always run into the problem of eldrige and aux guns

[zenith lantern]

Not much you can do about it.

It's rng you can't time it

[steel coral]

best solution for me was anchorage

[versed geyser]

Maybe use Anchorage? Been able to consistently delay Eldridge proc by 5-10 sec

[zenith lantern]

I can try Anchorage, was trying Bayard this season see what she did

But then I overcapped about 20 in the first few days

[steel coral]

just had 2 fights in a row where enemy eldridge didn't proc until 10s in

[zenith lantern]

If it happens that much maybe it's just not enough to change the result of the fight then.

If you think about it, if Eldridge proccing at the wrong time was so bad you’d be randomly losing to the average fleet where they have the right ships but don’t have the best gear. That’s not happening to me and I bet it’s not happening to you either

[versed geyser]

I think your JintsuuM is carrying you by surviving until 2nd launch

[steel coral]

tesing against a meta fleet, the only times I lost was because I lost the vanguard fight because the enemy eldridge kept the vanguard alive the entire fight

if they swap eldridge for juneau or shima or literally anyone it's a complete pushover

[stable dawn]

eldridge rng is a very fun and balanced piece of game design

I especially like when she procs just late enough to ignore all your backline dps while yours disappears

[finite fog]

soyuz targets immune vg

[stable dawn]

is this BA?

[finite fog]

[stable dawn]

all we need now are taunt skills and teamwide cooldown reducers

and it's literally BA pvp

[steel coral]

kirov meta

[lusty hill]

lolicon

[late heath]

Make it no reset fight + point/h base like NIKKE

Whoever have strongest fleet stay top 10, no need to sandbag

Disable buying extra run as well since can buy extra runs in NIKKE

[inner mango]

Is this why Janus dislikes you?

[novel patio]

why do the people keep changing, is it just this volatile up here

[finite fog]

because there's the option of holding onto your exercises

[trail temple]

The only time the rankings mean anything (for those that care), is at the end of the season

[lusty hill]

:ranchSexDoorPeek:

[novel patio]

i care about ranking only to reach aotn and then sleep

too lazy to figure out eos

[finite fog]

then you don't need to worry about why it's volatile

[sour pawn]

Only second proper fleet I’ve come across today, was trying Nano and normal Akagi instead, makes Amagi much more of a carry it seems, and I did one shot this too. It seems if you proc OR 1-2s into the fights it’s no problem and the whole VG+backline fall over with just LaffeyII left, but sitting there for 40s watching my Laffey shoot theirs while there’s is being bombarded by constant 3 air strikes and not dying is funny

[versed geyser]

Why Akagi and not Kaga? She has a better torpedo efficiency slot

[steel coral]

amagi and nano already have enough

need something for the vanguard

[sour pawn]

Was trying that new aux that gives her +12% dmg tbh

And resets detect meter

[versed geyser]

Ah that

Who's the Frontier medal on then?

[sour pawn]

Also her, she’s the ‘support’ backline ship

Weakest dmg, efficiencies and all of that

But it seems nano is too slow to launch as she has nothing to kill and does so little as a result

So maybe I’ll make her the supporting one and give a bit more to Akagi

[steel coral]

I use akagi m as the main vanguard hitter and amagi as main fleet dmger with nano cleaning up whats left

[sour pawn]

See I was thinking that but you miss out on the nano buff which I think is good for PvP right?

[trail temple]

Her AVI buff? He has 3 IJN

[sour pawn]

Wait I didn’t think muse ships counted towards IJN as those don’t give fleet tech for their factions?

[versed geyser]

Muse are counted as ships of those factions the original belongs to

[trail temple]

Akagim is still an IJN ship, so it counts

[versed geyser]

It's like muse + faction rather than a separate factuon

[trail temple]

[gloomy sand]

https://tenor.com/view/sunnyfication-gif-20299408

[lusty hill]

Guys is CV unironically good again

Return of the meeb

[versed geyser]

But Meeb is 2 carriers right? So I don't think so

[lusty hill]

The death of musashi

[versed geyser]

Nah she is still good

[steel coral]

that doesn't look like Amagi 3CV

[trail temple]

You should try it and tell us your results, especially if it's against Donald Trump, Famine or Himmel

[trail temple]

Has anyone adopted a similar kind of fleet on Amagi? Haven't seen any on Washy or Avrora

[steel coral]

adopt the superior meta

[gloomy sand]

Just me so far

[gloomy sand]

ggwp

[grand jewel]

Is that akagi muse?

[lusty hill]

Actually I will wait those people if they use amagi or not

It's best to just copy the true tierlist

[inner mango]

Thanks for a bonus last set

Even used Amagi CV against your Loli fleet

[floral wave]

holy, who from en pvp discord hurt serenity so much

[inner mango]

Who knows

[lusty hill]

What

Actually I've never seen famine anymore or any of the top players

Only azurely and shebainu

[stable dawn]

they probably quit after amagi

not even 2 SR event

[lusty hill]

If they quit then I will be the top player

[stable dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QquATfiGlFU

[lusty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/from-the-screen-to-the-ring-the-the-pen-to-the-king-ksi-gif-12257927774644906851

[void zealot]

P

[warm oyster]

so uhh...is a Shinano New Jersey Amagi CV, Eugen Spee and Deutchland a good build against fleets with a light vanguard?

[gloomy sand]

appreciate your attempt at cooking

but nah

use Richelieu, NJ and a totally different frontline

[warm oyster]

well afaik only the deutchland class has bonus against light ships

[shell raft]

[gloomy sand]

a single bonus isn't everything they offer

They'll get shredded by preloaders

bcs no speed, bulk, and no relevant bonuses to run them either

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1177832408406556693.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[valid oxide]

A bonus to 0 damage is still 0 damage

[novel patio]

good for pvp? (im lazy to change gearing for pvp)

[gloomy sand]

137mm on fdg and Alsace
Mk4 on Soyuz to have her salvos and barrage fire faster
WNT on Soyuz, Beaver/White Shell on Alsace and SG Radar/ Beaver on FdG (choices up to preference).
Cosmic Kicks + Boiler on Ancho to replace Rudder and missing aux slot
Start working on 2/3 +13 Teatorps and 1/3 Black Torp auxes for PvP
Try to get Shima and/or Ibuki w/ Aug to replace Sandy and put them w/ torps. Their auxes are Black Torp + Pearl. Eldkai can get manjuu in that case

[novel patio]

why are torps good in pvp

i tried to use this same setup with ayanami instead of sandy and she didnt do a whole lot and mostly just died

[gloomy sand]

Torp's good. Can burst down backliners on a good day (good RNG)

Since frontliner has a cockblocker now (Eldkai)

[novel patio]

so its an rng based strat alright

[gloomy sand]

Yes and it can net you wins if you're lucky

do note, your server will have Musashi soon. Better get her because she's BUSTED

[finite fog]

table on fdg

[novel patio]

of course id get musashi cause UR

[gloomy sand]

oh yeah I forgot about table

[novel patio]

i only have 1 table

[gloomy sand]

yea go w lil aiko's suggestion

swap HSFCR and gay table

[steel coral]

mag torps don't do much against vanguard since only a few actually hit so might as well

[novel patio]

when i watch my pvp it seems like my torps actually hit most of the time compared to my opponents torps which just miss everything

[shell raft]

That doesn't suggest that your opponent is geared for pvp though

Btw just keep pvp gear on all of the time

[finite fog]

who are you playing against

[shell raft]

[novel patio]

true, ive only met people that i had to reset against like 5 times so far this season

most of the time their defense is pretty easy or just meme fleet

[mortal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/from-the-screen-to-the-ring-the-the-pen-to-the-king-ksi-gif-12257927774644906851

[novel patio]

me when not paying attention and lost an exercise

aotn will require effort now probably

[inner mango]

[hardy kernel]

affinity is essential, so you need to oath Anchorage, and the rest are irrelevant.

[versed geyser]

Just sandbag then

[lusty hill]

Too soon for the serenity strats

[lusty hill]

Kbear is from my guild lel

[novel patio]

i am sandbagging since start

[lusty hill]

Aotn should be easy if you sandbag

[novel patio]

problem is i dont know if im doing it right

[lusty hill]

Never rush too soon

And don't lose or overcap

[versed geyser]

Hold until 10/10 then see whether you can get +2/+3 bonuses, then use exercises until only to 5/10 and just try not to overcap

[coarse dew]

Oh I see, holding

[robust gazelle]

What does holding do? Don't you still lose ranks?

[brazen socket]

By holding your tries you let your opponents ahead of you climb up ranks and get points

In which you will attack them and reap more points

It adds up slowly but it'll snowball at the end of season

Ofc you dont hold them until reset that'll be wasting battles

You just wanna hold them until like a few mins before the next batch of tries

[robust gazelle]

Ah ok thank you, I’ve been spending all my tries soon as I get them

[mortal trench]

PvP teams be like

https://tenor.com/view/clone-clones-buzz-lightyear-toy-story-gif-21609842

[inner mango]

Basically what you consistently do

[coral wren]

You hold them at 10/10 then when the reset is a few minutes do them so it's 5/10? Is that right

[trail temple]

Yes

[rich mulch]

it is a cruel world out in AL pvp

[lusty hill]

Correct because I don't lose or overcap

[brazen socket]

FACT CHECKERS!

[brazen socket]

Please confirm if this is true!

[stable dawn]

[lusty hill]

[gloomy sand]

Imagine losing

That much

[novel patio]

how do i tell if its a +2 or +3 bonus

ive only had +1s thus far

[hybrid agate]

depends on the point difference, past captain rank its mostly 35pt difference that is equivalent to +1, 71 = +2, 108 = +3

[trail temple]

I think we should get a compilation of all the times Serenity loses or overcaps and pin it. So whenever he is capping, we can refer him to the pins

[half silo]

still doesn‘t change the fact that you‘re losing constantly

[stable dawn]

is that the jonkler

[gloomy sand]

https://tenor.com/view/intelligent-qui-gon-jin-jar-jar-binks-speak-smart-gif-17180390

[lusty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/power-hayden-christensen-star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-annakin-skywalker-gif-5266504

[gloomy sand]

Of the negative IQ sort

[hardy kernel]

I wonder how many rankers that had reached the top 10 in their respective server.

that way we can see which server is the most try hard

[floral wave]

we know that already

unless something changed last few months which seems unlikely

[stable dawn]

the answer is Lil E of course

[half silo]

it's always lil e with those lil guys over there

[river flicker]

This set good?

[unkempt vortex]

Change your main gun to something faster then you're good

She "slightly" depends on a torp barrage for "some slight" extra dmg since she is torp focused...

76mm AA or the expensive Single 113mm should do it

[gloomy sand]

gun diff

you want fast firing guns on her because she spams her torp.barrage

plus her FP stat not that high as is common for torp focused DDs

76mm and the 113mm is extremely easy to get and raise

[cosmic laurel]

wdym queen of hatred

[lusty hill]

It's avrora

And it's always the same 10 person that get top 10

[shell raft]

Avrorans built different

[brazen socket]

She is called that because serenity hates shimakaze

[hybrid agate]

why don't you join the fun

[gloomy sand]

https://tenor.com/view/queen-of-hatred-lobotomy-corporation-gif-14523936031449766641

[lusty hill]

Who's queen

[mortal trench]

Me

[hybrid agate]

@lusty hill smh too early for serenity strats

[finite fog]

too soon for the serenity strats

[stable dawn]

not R1 smh my head

[trail temple]

Okay MK

[stable dawn]

[river flicker]

where do I get the golden gun

[hybrid agate]

Gear Lab

[river flicker]

Dang it

gear lab makes me cri

[hybrid agate]

should be easy to make, no?

[river flicker]

I dont do OP si much so I am lacking the chips or st

[hybrid agate]

the blue gun will make do

[river flicker]

the 76mm or 133mm is better?

[hybrid agate]

up to preference, they both serve the same purpose, fast gun for barrage. In hindsight, "faster is better".

[river flicker]

[hybrid agate]

[river flicker]

[trail temple]

R1 yet?

[lusty hill]

opsi give you access to all the good gear in the game

please do opsi

[finite fog]

do pve to do pvp

[valid oxide]

Laffii is meta and so is jintm, pve is the silly PvP prerequisite (I don't do either very often)

[whole salmon]

Single 113 > Single 120 > Single 76

The latter 2 takes priority due to the longer range

Although single 76 is faster, due to the shorter range, it may not fire at all at certain distances

Although such difference is marginal

[whole salmon]

This also applies to backline aux guns

Which is why we run DD guns on BBs

Either Twin 137 or Twin 130

[river flicker]

[lusty hill]

CV tempesta will bring back CV meta in pvp

[fickle echo]

A CV from before planes even existed?

[trail temple]

Da Vinci's flying machines, duh

[lusty hill]

they're equiped with pigeons carrying bombs

[robust gazelle]

What’s serenity strats

[wicked surge]

Trolling

[half silo]

Losing

Getting walled

Spreading misinformation

[novel patio]

guess im a pvper now

[lusty hill]

congrats

[inner mango]

Time for EOS Top 10 finish

R1

[river flicker]

I keep losing my place

Yesterday I was 2100

Now back to 2300

It keeps happen

[lusty hill]

stop losing

[river flicker]

I dont lose when they attack them

Guess they attacked me

[lusty hill]

people attacking you don't affect your score or rank

only loses and overcap

[stable dawn]

you derank when others attack you. Buy more attempts with pyro to regain your rank

[lusty hill]

rank doesn't mean anything unless you're doing the serenity strats

[river flicker]

Wah

Wtf is overcap

[lusty hill]

you losing attempts becouse you didn't 5/10 your attempts before every reset

[river flicker]

guess that was what happened

[lusty hill]

do the serenity strats

[gloomy sand]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-orange-cat-orange-cats-cat-weird-gif-17010424884748616697

@river flicker just do all your attempts if you can if you're starting out

take note of your daily reset time. The game adds 5 attempts every daily reset, 12h after, and 6h after last reset.

[trail temple]

He does better than a certain someone who uses meta ships and still loses and overcaps

[novel patio]

does he do this every day

[floral wave]

dont need to call me out openly like that

[trail temple]

Hard to call you out when I've completely forgotten

[stable dawn]

yes

[hybrid agate]

@lusty hill who is it this time?

[shell raft]

[lusty hill]

sad to admit that my revenge get delayed next season

[trail temple]

Your "revenge" is always delayed to next season

[inner mango]

Or he never had one to begin with

[nocturne zephyr]

Would Soyuz + Seydlitz + Alsace work if I lack Musashi?

Also who the fuck do I use for a good off-tank if every comp now recommends Eldy Retro. Does Jenaeu still work well enough?

[versed geyser]

If you lack both then maybe try this fleet? #pvp message

And swap Eldridge retro with Laffey II?

[nocturne zephyr]

You mind copying the message/image? Discord is being silly and keeps taking me to random messages when following the link

[nocturne zephyr]

Thanks.

That's Jintsuu META right? Unsure if I have the stuff to MLB

[versed geyser]

Yeah it is

[nocturne zephyr]

Yeah RIP

[versed geyser]

I guess you could use Harbin or Ibuki?

[nocturne zephyr]

What's the reasoning for Rich in the main fleet?

[versed geyser]

Nuke Eldridge with her alpha damage so Eldridge can't proc Operation Rainbow I think

[nocturne zephyr]

IC
Kinda bummed I missed Eldrige

[versed geyser]

Yeah she's quite strong

[gloomy sand]

you missed out on a lot of good shit

well

what options do you have @nocturne zephyr

could try NJ - Alsace - Soyuz - one of the older frontlines

[nocturne zephyr]

I could do that

Main thing I'm missing is Musashi for a backline

And Vanguard

[gloomy sand]

musashi is

soon-ish

she will rerun

vanguard has fallen off relevance lately

the frontline is more of concern

what options do u have for frontliners

[nocturne zephyr]

I can say what I'm missing, which would be all METAs, Eldritch
Rest that I can see in the tierlist I should have, though I'd just need to level them

[gloomy sand]

so laffey II

[nocturne zephyr]

Yeah, got Laff II, just levelling her. Also got Shima
Would just be a case of finding a replacement for Eldy in any frontline, and Jintsuu if they're a part of it too

[gloomy sand]

your available options include laff-ii, juneau, felix schultz, anchorage, shima, harbin

[nocturne zephyr]

Which three would you recommend, and why, if I went with Rich, Soyuz and Alsace for main (if Rich is valid)?

[gloomy sand]

laffey II shima, option of harbin, juneau, felix

[nocturne zephyr]

Awesome, thanks

[forest vapor]

Made AOTN with 2525 woot (not real EOS, I know, missed 4 fights and lost 1)

Don't have Soyuz or Jintsuu Meta so I'm pretty happy

[late heath]

I made it to AotN this season despite sleeping through 10 exercises

[trail temple]

You have Kashino tho

That's an unfair advantage

[late heath]

[lusty hill]

Congrats

[stark ice]

Same

[cosmic laurel]

FUCKING FINALLY

[lusty hill]

Finally what

[winged depot]

[void zealot]

Fucking finally

[stable dawn]

[grim solar]

Person named finally:

[void zealot]

[grim solar]

[lusty hill]

Kid named what

[gloomy sand]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

stop the cap

[lusty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-better-call-saul-mike-ehrmantraut-gif-26551023

[cosmic laurel]

finally a top 1000 finish

[lusty hill]

Congrats

Try top 100 this season

[junior trench]

I might use the backline Sailing Ship this month for the memes

[mortal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/from-the-screen-to-the-ring-the-the-pen-to-the-king-ksi-gif-12257927774644906851

[delicate owl]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/749898857567223848/1034063353271812096/agency_avrora.jpg?ex=67178a0b&is=6716388b&hm=2f78ccafaae3deae17c40260af45935e8796567b0e8405f43cd0550e96ca3d33&

Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover event in history, they say.

Avrora PvP:

[mortal trench]

who

[lusty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-i-dont-even-know-who-you-are-marvel-gif-15769006

[novel patio]

this season ill try for eos 10

that is if i dont forget to pvp

[light crystal]

this season ill try for eos 1
that is if i dont forget to pvp

[novel patio]

[stable dawn]

this season

[rich mulch]

maybe i will lock in this season and not overcap or lose

ending up in the bottom half of top 100 with this one

[fresh dove]

thanks for reminding

done my set

[trail temple]

Will not or won't, choose one

[delicate owl]

https://tenor.com/view/ultra-instinct-goku-minor-spelling-mistake-aura-gif-535268994186034537

[trail temple]

[nocturne zephyr]

Any reason to have your defensive fleet different to your attacking fleet?

[void zealot]

Any reason to have a defensive fleet?

[grim solar]

Makes you less of an ass to fight in pvp.

Because defensive fleets don't matter.

[nocturne zephyr]

Not even for rank?

[grim solar]

Nope.

[nocturne zephyr]

Oh shit, nevermind then lol

[grim solar]

So, y'know, be nice to other players.

Showcase your waifus.

Or go for a theme.

[nocturne zephyr]

What if my chosen theme is minmaxing

[grim solar]

We'll only judge you silently.

Eh, do whatever you want.

[stable dawn]

or be mean so you can read their complaints in #pvp

[void zealot]

:D

[grim solar]

We should stop being mean to each other.

[gloomy sand]

doesn't make for good content

shit becomes stale

[void zealot]

like complaining about maintenance?

[gloomy sand]

there's better content than that

[hybrid agate]

so you can meme

[inner mango]

Avrora

being nice

[lusty hill]

Defense fleet doesn't matter at all in pvp, using strong fleet on defense can annoy people and some people attribute it to toxicity, using meme or non meta ship can give more opportunities to new players or noob to enjoy pvp therfore the morally good decision. Nevertheless it is up to you to break the toxicity or contribute to the toxicity

[gloomy sand]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[lusty hill]

What

[grim solar]

Do you break the toxicity or contribute to it?

[late heath]

I’m putting up meta fleet til everyone married and set their secretary to Kashino

[gloomy sand]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/988908685289984090/1109944270846173194/caption.gif

[glass jolt]

This kashino is oathed. Is that good enough?

[void zealot]

Nice hamburger

[finite fog]

Easy wins = fun

[late heath]

need 125 & 200 affinity

[trail temple]

Boring, choose memes like the rest of us

[novel patio]

my defense fleet is the same as my attacking fleet because my attacking fleet is easy to beat anyways

[trail temple]

You can set easy fleets and this will still happen

[stable dawn]

why is his hand also the gun

is this AI

[fresh dove]

I oced

[lusty hill]

I don't know

Someone told me to send these pictures to scare people who make fun of me

[trail temple]

Look up, it says gullible on the ceiling

[lusty hill]

@plucky pawn

[plucky pawn]

Didnt knw u a filthy colluder as well

[lusty hill]

[trail temple]

How the turn tables

[stable dawn]

[wanton mango]

[hybrid agate]

[fresh dove]

[lusty hill]

Well did you see me eos?

[trail temple]

If you didn't eos, that makes it worse. You're a colluder and you failed to eos, smh

[stable dawn]

[zealous wasp]

[gloomy sand]

can't see shit

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-butt-gif-4868711229372494252

[gritty quiver]

i just realised

does no one use shima now

[hybrid agate]

nah, Torpmemes still has Shima

[gritty quiver]

no but like

everyone be using mintsuu over shima

[grim solar]

Torpmemes use both.

[gritty quiver]

im cooked

im running juneau shima laffii

[grim solar]

Use Eldridge.

She's the new craze.

[gritty quiver]

i heard eldridge counters preloads

[grim solar]

Yeah.

[gritty quiver]

why do you think im doing pvp 💀

im trying to get her

[grim solar]

Ah.

[trail temple]

Do you have her retrofit item?

[gritty quiver]

yea

i havent missed a single event item since roma first run

im grinding for her now cuz i kinda been sleeping on her

[trail temple]

Just a season and a bit of pain iirc

[gritty quiver]

i had like 12k merit leftover

i dont even do pvp for bulin cuz i cant level ship fast enough to need more bulin

with 457 on soy can i use 356 on sushi

or do i need to get a mikasa gun

[crude jetty]

When Musashi rerun? 😠 💢

[gritty quiver]

soon (probably)

[inner mango]

Avrorans are something

[gritty quiver]

[trail temple]

Run the mk4 on Soy

457 too slow

[gritty quiver]

boo

okay then

so mikasa gun and mk4

?

[trail temple]

Correcto

[gritty quiver]

wait where do i get mikasa gun?

i have no idea what this means

[trail temple]

She's in the medal shop

[gritty quiver]

huh

wait i have to get mikasa herself to get the gun?

[trail temple]

Ye

[gritty quiver]

i didnt know there were equips only obtainable like this

[lusty hill]

Some blue gear can only be obtained like this too like gangut gun

[inner mango]

Did you ever hear the tale of Serenitatis the Fool? I thought not. It's not a story anyone would care to repeat.

Serenitatis was... a jester, yes, but he thought himself more. He believed, truly believed, that he could outwit those far above his station. You see, in the grand courts of the cosmos, Serenitatis would entertain the gods, dance for kings, spin his riddles. His jest, though, it was sharp. He mocked those in power, thinking his wit was his shield.

One day, Serenitatis decided to mock the celestial rulers themselves. Bold, right? Foolish, even. He whispered to the stars, "I know your secrets," laughed at the moon, and dared the sun to blink. The gods, amused at first, indulged him. But it wasn’t long before they grew weary of his arrogance.

And then came the night of reckoning. The sky darkened, not with clouds, but with something far more sinister—silence. Serenitatis laughed, as he always did, but this time, there was no echo, no applause. The gods had decided to answer his challenge.

They granted him eternal life, but with a twist. He could speak, sure, but no one would hear him. He could jest, but no one would laugh. Forever wandering, forever playing the fool to an audience that no longer exists.

So, Serenitatis the Fool lives on, a cosmic joke told and retold, but never heard.

[trail temple]

That last line of what Cult posted is ringing true rn

[halcyon apex]

by the way, what does asf mean

[grim solar]

"As fuck".

Me asf = Me as fuck.

[halcyon apex]

really? weird wtf does that mean tho

[grim solar]

It's used as an additional adjective.

Adds intensity.

"That man is angry asf." or "That man is angry as fuck."

Get the picture?